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Destiny 2 guns have no recoil in PC version

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>"For instance, there’s no recoil on guns on PC because recoil on the controller feels really good. ‘I’m firing, I’m firing, I’m firing, oh, I’m losing control of my gun a little bit.’ That feels great, especially with magnetism and all the magic in the controller that makes you feel it. With a mouse and keyboard, you don’t want the mouse moving without you moving it, so recoil doesn’t feel good, so there is no recoil on PC.""

Thoughts?
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>>383735310

>Giving the PC players an advantage over Console players

yeah seems about right.
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>>383735310
Yeah, if only we had decades of shooters with recoil on PC to prove him wrong
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>>383735310
PC version confirmed baby easy
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>making the game even easier for the players that already have the advantage of precision aiming because "it doesn't feel good"
Literally what
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I would assume that he means they're replacing the recoil with spread, like most PC shooters, not just making every gun laser accurate.

Gonna be a shit game either way though.
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any mechanic that takes away control from a player is a bad one
any mechanic that increases random faults not caused by the player is a bad one

modern shooting games have been bad for quite a while, it's about time someone tries something to remedy the situation
but i'm not going to touch borderlands clones like this
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>>383735310
>pc already superior for shooters
>let's make it easier

Who comes up with this shit
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>>383735310

Can't be real
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>>383735310
Would it not be replaced by spread like almost every other game that doesn't do recoil? I can see how destiny recoil would suck on mouse but being too lazy to retool it for the platform doesn't mean you ditch it
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>>383735310
>That feels great, especially with magnetism and all the magic in the controller that makes you feel it.

Rumble, how does it fuckin' work!?
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>new Bungie has never played a shooter on PC before

I believe it.
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I'm pretty fuckin sure they meant aim assist
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I actually like this.
Recoil is stupid as fuck.
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It's hilarious the amount of complete bullshit controller users will come up with to justify using an inferior device.
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>>383735310
Sounds great, I hope they take out Aiming down sights too.
Crucible could become Quake for normies.
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This is it. This is what has put the final nail in the coffin. Game companies are so out of touch it's fucking scary.
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>>383735310
Bullshit. I call bait, no dev is that stupid, I need proof or this is fake as fuck.
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>>383735310
>giving more power to the nobles
YES YEEEEEESSSS
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>>383735310

>especially with magnetism and all the magic in the controller
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>still no mouse and keyboard with rumble

Explain this pcfags
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>>383735673

But recoil is a real thing with guns. You can't just fire off all of your bullets in one burst while maintaining perfect aim.
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>>383736109
>This is what plebs actually think

git gud
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>>383735310
>consolefag says retarded things
>accidentally makes the game better by making it like Quake

Thanks, I guess?
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>>383736008
Japan will save us, or they'll look down at us and say "no".
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>>383735310
>can't make recoil feel good on PC
Shout-out to Killing Floor, 8 years ago. Wish I still had that juicy webm of the double-barrel shotgun.
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>>383735310
Sounds fine this is a scifi game anyway. Now will the PC version also have aim assist for controller users?
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>>383735310
Go home Bungie, You're drunk.
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>>383735310
>especially with magnetism and all the magic in the controller
This shit cant be real.
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>>383735310
>especially with magnetism and all the magic in the controller

Is there a source for this? Because it sounds pants on head retarded for a dev to say that
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>>383736178
Fuck me I'm retarded and can't even attach the webm I actually do have
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>>383735310
FUCKING MAGNETS
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>>383736143
Not him but
>This is what someone whos never fired a gun thinks
Like wtf. Join the army or buy a gun you fucking beta
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>>383735496
>>383735498
>>383735569
>>383735609
>>383735660
>>383735673
>>383735679
>>383735775
>>383735816
>>383736008
>>383736028
>Falling for fake news
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>>383736012
https://www.finder.com.au/destiny-2-no-recoil-pc
later "clarified"
https://twitter.com/knowsworthy/status/877943054023376896
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>>383736302
pic unrelated?
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>>383735310
Wait a second
Can you play with a controller? Are there controller-oriented servers?

If so, what the fuck
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>>383735310
Uh.... why?
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When you think about it, everything is just magnetism and magic...
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>>383736092
You know I actually can't entirely, I feel like it would be dumb, but when I think about it I've seen dumber shit.
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>>383736272
Oh it's real and it's spectacular.

> https://www.finder.com.au/destiny-2-no-recoil-pc
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I guess I can understand it from a "feeling" point of a view - if your aim is consistently going up (or any other direction) on a console, you can find a good position for your right stick to compensate for it and hold it like that.
With a mouse, you're forced to constantly move it, which is definitely annoying.

Still, making aiming even easier on PC is an awful idea.
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>guns that literally fire bolts of light somehow have recoil
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>>383735310
what is the point of playing an fps if the gun feel is shit?
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>>383736302
Don't let this jew trick you, that's a fake tweet.
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>>383736482
>finder.com.au
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>>383736329
>What If I use a controller on PC?
>Plays like the console version.

Cool.
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>>383735310
I knew old bungie was long dead but holy fuck this is a new level of stupid.
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>>383736329
Still wonder what "modified" means, but it's not "removed" either.

Still don't understand the need to change it at all, but I'm also not a Destiny 2 dev.
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>>383735310

I agree but why a nigger?
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but my kb+m has never rumbled.. doesn't mean i want my games to be even less realistic..
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>>383735310
this is dumb

>>383735496
won't they be on separate servers?
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>>383737065
Yeah 60fps still shits all over 30fps regardless of anything else, not to mention the advantage of MKB.
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>>383736401
If you play with a controller it automatically recognizes that and modifies it to be like playing on console
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>>383736302

>/pol/posting
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>>383735673
Not always. Check out what makes controls feel "tight," which is a very likeable feature for a game to have (though multiplayer is another story altogether)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpmbyUtLr4Q
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This is either very good or does not matter at all to you so what is there even here to complain about?
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>>383736880
What's wrong with it?
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>>383736450
Well if your controller or phone vibrates on a desk it makes a loud fucking racket. It's off-putting
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>>383735310
Thats retarded.
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>American devs
Numales and shitskins should be banned from video game developing.
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>>383736914
Consoles have aim assist and pc doesn't. They compensate for that on pc
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>>383735310
Jeesus fucking christ, these """"devs""""" are beyond fucking retarded.

How they manage to sell anything is beyond me.
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>>383737552
Luke Smith and Jason Jones have been making games since before you were born, anon.
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>ITT nobody reads the thread and retardation ensues
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>>383736109
>You can't just fire off all of your bullets in one burst while maintaining perfect aim.
there must not be marksmanship competitions
someone made that up
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>>383735496
It's a bit overkill since console players are already gimped to the point where the game is unplayable without the game aiming for you.
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>>383737635
But what other game reduces recoil on guns on PC? The whole reason PC doesn't have aim assist is because it's unnecessary. Increasing recoil for console to compensate for aim assist doesn't happen on console, so why the reverse?
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>>383737405
It just makes aiming on mouse and keyboard easier, when MKB already has a huge advantage when it comes to aiming accurately.
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>>383737852
>random blanket statement
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>>383737294
...so?
You get the normal recoil back?
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>>383735310
Kinda sounds like hes talking about rumble and not recoil?
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>>383737374
>anime posters being retarded

pottery
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>>383737852
were capes like that EVER fashionable to wear? i feel like they have absolutely zero utility compared to a traditional overcoat
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>>383738142
There are many posters above reacting to literally just the OP, which has since been disproved. Hence, NO ONE READ THE THREAD.
>>383738151
There will still be recoil, just modified from the console version. Bungie devs do make stupid decisions in my opinion, but completely removing recoil on the PC version would be pants-on-head retarded.
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>>383738748
There were some Hunter cloaks in Vanilla that looked fucking awesome.
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>>383738748
I imagine an overcoat might make it difficult to reach for your gun quickly compared to just a cape, but that's just my opinion
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>>383735673
agreed, but destiny is leagues ahead of borderlands in terms of gameplay and art direction. It's high quality enough that even the solo experience is decent, while borderlands pretty much requires co-op to be halfway enjoyable.
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>>383735310
PC version:
>delayed release
>Blizzard account and middleware required
>Guns will be balanced around consoles and shit on PC
>Scriptskiddies are inevitable considering it's a pseudo P2P online game
>Less content than a certain other system

Yeah, nah. I'm getting faaaaaaaar away from the PC version
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>>383738910
i meant in real life
>>383738953
well i'm thinking like 200 years ago or during the middle ages, i just don't see the practical application of a cape over a coat other than just looking badass
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>>383735310
Why do these developers continuing to force black women on us?
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>>383739256
>using a controller for an fps
that's the most important part
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>>383739301
I mean really, what other reason do you need?
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>>383735310
It's basically bullshit. Played Destiny on 360 with mouse & keyboard using XIM Edge, the aiming felt tite. Also heavy recoil is common enough in PC FPS.

That said, they know more about their game project than I do. It could be they tested both and it really did feel better without recoil.
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>>383735673
>any mechanic that takes away control from a player is a bad one

You mean like gravity and finite running speed?

Do you have brain cancer?

>>383736302

This says nothing.

"It's modified."

How is it modified?

The fact they can't say that the core implications of the article isn't completely false is cause for alarm.

Why would it need to be modified?

Different recoil mechanics across platforms has literally never been a question or concern for people wanting PC ports. Only eliminations of aim-assist and aim smoothing effects.

The article seems to imply that recoil on consoles is the controller having a rumble feature. For all we know the "still has recoil" is just a temporary screen distortion effect.

>>383736329

Seriously what the fuck does "modified" mean?

>>383738790
>since been disproved

Except it hasn't, unless you're the kind of gullible fuck that falls for a vague "nuh uh tweet."

The article establishes a core lack of understanding of what recoil even fucking is. The bitch blathers on about the magic of a controller rumble and variations to the extent of aim-assist magnetism.

Bungie can say there is "still recoil" but there is a serious question now of whether Bungie even fucking knows what recoil is, as they have yet to specifically refute the specific claims in that article.

>There will still be recoil, just modified from the console version.

Yeah, congratulations. You know how to quote a twitter.

What the fuck does it mean though? Modified how?

What about the quote from the employee in the article is wrong? Something about that article has to absolutely be an incorrect statement of fact if "still has recoil" is a true statement.

>but completely removing recoil on the PC version would be pants-on-head retarded.

As would abandoning the biggest money-maker franchise of Console FPS history in order to make a totally-not-Halo lore franchise that is basically just Battleborn's bigger and somewhat more successful sibling.
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>>383736521
>not realising that E^2 = p^2c^2 + m^2c^4
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>>383736272
bungie has never been quiet on how the "cheats" they use to make the game more accessible. it's like they're proud of it.
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>>383739339
Nobody gave a shit when Ikora Rey was a major character on Destiny's initial release, but now that she's a recurring character in Destiny 2 it's "muh SJWs!"
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i looked it up and apparently capes were used as raincoats from a function perspective (similar to cloaks). women used to wear them to cover their shoulders when travelling between events when it was indecent to show them, too. the more you know. i didn't see anything about kings wearing them as a fashion statement tho, not sure where the myth came from
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you know, it would be nice if they would show some footage of what they were actually talking about rather than just giving vague quotes and we can only speculate on what it actually may entail
otherwise i dont really get why they released this information at all
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so they're removing some gay gimmick from their casual shooter which turns a console user's controller into a vibrator? but the gimmick isn't actually a part of the game, like the gun has recoil in the game, it's just "MY HANDS ARE LITERALLY SHAKING"?
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>there’s no recoil on guns on PC because recoil on the controller feels really good
The fucking hell did he mean by this?
Are any of the halo developers still at bungie? Christ.
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FAKE NEWS
https://www.pcgamesn.com/destiny-2/destiny-2-no-recoil-pc
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>>383739758
Bungie developers usually don't talk about specifics for a reason, because they know as soon as they start posting numbers there'll be a shitstorm.
>What about the quote from the employee in the article is wrong?
Gee, I don't know, maybe the fact that the PC version has NO RECOIL AT ALL. This isn't the first time one Bungie employee had to come in and correct either another employee or their own statement. That was the entire purpose of the tweet. To say "hey, we fucked up. This is what's actually true."
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>>383735310
I'm more offended by the magnetism part, tbhfam
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>>383736092
Rumble is a stupid concept after a year that I always turn off instantly.
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>>383735310
>specially with magnetism and all the magic
im fucking dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bhYMnHb5JY
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>>383737328
What ?
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>>383739410
I have a Xim4. Input device isn't an issue.
I'll unironically take 30fps over all of the bad points I mentioned. Just as I've bought every Souls game on consoles to avoid PC scriptkiddies. They are so common that even streamers nonchalantly use CheatEngine, as if it was the standard game of playing those games online.
Fucking Hell I can already imagine how SHIT the PC version of Monster Hunter World will be, because the server is global so there's no way to get far away from BRs and Russians. So much cheating will occur, I can already imagine.
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>>383736272
In Destiny, bullet magnetism is called "Target Acquisition" and it's a perk on some weapons.
I shit you not, some weapons are literally better at getting aim assist than others
Console FPS is a joke
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WE
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Just give us auto aim and regenerating health and we're good.
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Irrelevant to me, I don't play shit games.
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>>383735310
Bungie's Destiny 2?
more like
Bungie's Destiny 2 make another shit game
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>>383741651
Reminder that Bungie are the ones who made shooters control well on consoles and are therefore the murderers of the genre.
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>>383739774
Well, they're literally the master and perfector of console fps, so I think it's warranted.
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>>383741575
>30fps with substandard fake mouse controls
sounds like a nightmare. at least tell me that xim shit doesn't force accel on you.
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>>383742224
I still think Timesplitters is the superior console shooter. It just didn't have the LAN party meme to put it in the running with Halo.
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>>383742254
>sounds like a nightmare.
I'm used to it already.

> at least tell me that xim shit doesn't force accel on you.
It doesn't. It's very customizable
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>>383741575
Cheaters aren't really that common but ok
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>>383742523
>battlefield on console
Jesus Christ, I bet you play RTS on consoles too you fucking criminal.
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>>383741575
Sounds like you're just trying to justify your purchase and aren't good enough at games to compete on PC.
Funny that you talk about cheaters when you're using M+KB on a console as if that doesn't give you an unbelievable advantage.
Also cheaters in MH is not new at all. They were all over the place from Freedom to XX
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>>383736302
>fake news
/pol/ pls go
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This was debunked awhile ago, the dev who said it is apparently an idiot or english isn't his first language. He was talking about aim assist.
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>>383742523
There is nothing more pathetic than paying money to have a raw advantage in a CONSOLE FPS. You'd get annihilated if you actually played on PC.
Consider taking a helium nap
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>>383741575
>using Xim against a bunch of people with gamepads

You may as well be a cheater
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>>383742523
how do you feel about the controller vs m+kb controversy? it is fair to say you're cheating, or should competitive minded players buy xim or similar equipment to avoid being outclassed by the superior control method, m+kb?
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>>383739758
This post content and that obnoxious spacing... I ain't falling for it kid.
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>font doesn't have anti-aliasing
Next time don't use mspaint to make your fakenews image.
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>>383741575
>complains about cheaters while he himself cheats
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>>383735310
>you don’t want the mouse moving without you moving it, so recoil doesn’t feel good, so there is no recoil on PC.""
what in the flying fuck
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we had this thread before
there is recoil on the PC version

OP is gay for thinking no recoil is the worst of D2 problems
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>>383735673
>any mechanic that takes away control from a player is a bad one
This means nothing.
Everything in a game takes away some control from the player. That is what makes it a game and not a book you're writing.
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>>383740523
>Bungie developers usually don't talk about specifics for a reason

Well they fucked that up with the interview and the shitstorm is out and they are not doing the job to quell it other than relying on loyal shills.

>Gee, I don't know, maybe the fact that the PC version has NO RECOIL AT ALL.

They never properly addressed this because this is based on the inference as to what the bungie employee thinks recoil means.

This calls into question whether what Bungie has is something they think is recoil but not what normal people think is recoil.

Because if it were the same there would be absolutely no need to change the intensity of the recoil between the console and the PC, and if there was, it would be to make the recoil management harder to compensate for the lack of "need" for handicapping thumbstick control use.

They still said it was different. How and why?

Until specifics are given to refute the article, this remains a valid point.
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>>383744381
what are the D2 problems so far? i haven't kept up.
played a shitload of D1, still on the fence about 2.
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>>383735310
>recoil feels really good
It feels like shit, but understandable for balance reasons so there are different usage of various guns.
>on the controller
what fucking idiot wrote this
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I swear this has got to be some kind of intelligence test.

Of course the game will have recoil you stupid shits.
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>>383742732
That's a random google image. I haven't played BF since 2142, the last good one. Bad Company doesn't count, but I played those I guess. I only play Destiny and Titanfall2 shooter-wise.

>>383742780
>>383743045
>>383743863
>>383744354
> using M+KB on a console as if that doesn't give you an unbelievable advantage.
It doesn't. Xim4 emulates a controller, but it cant surpass its limits and the game's own rules. My max aiming speed is still the in-game max, and my minimum turning radius is still the same as a controller user. It's quite different from native M&K on PC, it takes a while to adjust.
And I know you people like to shit on every console player but there are good ones out there, it's not like I win every Trials of Osiris game for free just because I'm using Xim4. Game sense and team coordination dictates 90% of your performance anyway.

Need I remind you that M&K emulators are officially supported on PS4 (pic related). But sure, keep being butthurt over it if you wish.

>>383743894
It's not a superior method, just different (like I said it's nothing like native 1:1 M&K support like you get on PC). People could bitch about Arcade sticks being a cheating method for fighting games, but there are still top-tier controller players on tournaments.
We could discuss all day the advantages and disadvantages of using a Stick VS D-Pad for movement and inputs, but at the end of the day they are limited in the same way. Much like Xim4 is limited to what a controller can do in that specific game.
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>>383736109
>game is set in the future
>old Russian piece of shit is more advanced than futuristic weapons
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>>383737328
>/summer/posting
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>>383742835
I thought this was CNN's thing now?

LOL! SAD!
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Wouldn't it be better for the controller to have no recoil while the PC has it?

Even with all the controller auto-aim that shit still takes about twice the effort of a mouse.
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>>383738748
If you want to wear a huge bright orange cape wrapped around your body in a snow white environment where there are other people looking to shoot and kill you then go ahead, make it as easy as possible for them.
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>>383736281
you're pretty good
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>>383736012
You underestimate bungie
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>>383738748
capes are fashionable as fuck. just dont wear one irl
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>>383735310
I never played no destiny but if you're a superhuman or have a laser recoil is dumb.
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>>383735310
>>383735496

I think it's fair to give no recoil to PC players since console trashbins have both an aimbot and strafing magnet projectiles, quit bitching retards.
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>>383735310
Interesting. I like the zen and honesty of why they're doing it if this is real.
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>>383739758
>You mean like gravity and finite running speed?
>he's never played Quake
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>>383746318
>magnetic projectiles
no fucking way
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>>383735310
That's incredibly fucking retarded. Recoil and sound design are like the two biggest factors of what make guns in video games feel like they actually have impact.
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>>383737552
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>No recoil is good because I am too fucking stupid to actually control it or play around it.

Nothing special here.
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>>383737371
that was a cool video thanks for the link
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>>383746607
>le bunny hoping and rocket jumping and going fast means that there is absolutely no finite and ascertainable presence in a virtual representation in three dimensional space.

>>383744065
It's called a paragraph indent and it makes reading easier when instead it would be several lines per paragraph because its a fucking 4chan post and not an academic article.

>I ain't falling for it

For what? Not shilling for Bungie?
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>>383735310
wat? have these guys never played a shooter on pc? wtf?
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>>383735310
>Destiny 2
True or not I just don't care
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>>383735310
https://www.pcgamesn.com/destiny-2/destiny-2-no-recoil-pc
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>>383747153
>indenting almost every sentence
>paragraph indent
No. You spaced your post like that to grab people's attention and it's obnoxious.
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>>383747760
Fucking this
Destiny was a huge pile of shit that went above and beyond and shat on any loyal followers 3 months in, then 4 months later followed by this big slap in the face, and there are still drones that defend it. The fact they are having Blizzard app host it tells how insecure they are of their product.
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>>383736447
>>383746274

Better version
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>>383739758
Please anon.

I implore you to stop posting like this.

You only need to add spaces between sentences when you're shifting to a different subject or focus.

You suck cocks.
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>>383748125
I didn't follow anything with destiny, what are the big sins?
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Why don't mice have rumble?
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>>383748647
It would affect accuracy and make noise.
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>>383736281
>unistalled kf1 a few minutes ago
>see this
sunuvabitch
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>>383736281
That stalker getting fucked out of nowhere cracked me up for some reason.
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>>383745050
>not being a cocky motherfucker
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>>383748541
>raid drops 3 weeks after launch
>getting preraid best gear takes at most a few days to a week tops
>unless you have 3 of the same class on one account it will take you 3 to 6 weeks to get best gear and guns from the raid IF you are lucky and don't get stuck with the same loot drops every raid
>next DLC drop 7 weeks after raid. Default gear anyone can by is over 50% better than any of the raid gear. So a new/recently joined player gets a serious boost in gear that out classes everyone who grinded away 4+ weeks for of raiding
>the new raid is impossible to finish with old raid gear, this is not an exaggeration, the enemies at the end of the raid are completely unkillable unless you get stock gear that raise level high enough
>also all new stock gear and weapons use a brand new currency needed to buy them, meaning any stock up cash day one players had is worthless
>so anyone that played a good amount before the DLC are out right punished and in worse shape then a fresh starting player
this is less than 3 months in of the games existence
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>>383748126
You're retarded.
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>>383749947
unbelievable

what a fucking debacle
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>>383749947
>first raid the dev team brags it will take weeks to finish the hard mode of it
>beaten with in the first 3 hours of launch
>next raid delay the hard mode for nearly a month
>after they introduce Hard mode it literally adds invincible enemies on parts of the map people played on to try and slow down players
>it doesn't work
>fix all exploits in both raids
>leave all exploits that make the raid harder to complete or out right impossible to finish
>claim without blushing that it's hard to just fix those glitches and the exploits were just easier to fix.
>the 3rd raid of the season pass is scrap completely with the devs saying in a passive aggressive way they are just not happy how fast people are getting through the content and want to offer something else
>it's just a wave killing mode with no soul in it
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>>383749947
>>383750617
PvP
>guns drop in raid are OP and work the same way in pvp
>one of them had automatic fire, tracking and could kill in 1 body shot, one head shot
>raid is rng so no one can control the rate drop
>basically top rank pvp players of the first 3 months were average or worse players that just had the most OP guns raid lock to everyone else.
>they eventually balance all guns and gear to pvp so many good pve guns become worthless
>the reward system in pvp is rng as well so the worse player can get rewarded the best gear/guns
>it actually shows the whole teams this reward system adding more salt to the unlucky skilled players.
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>>383749947
Ah yes Dark Below. Those were salt mines of ToR levels.
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>>383744539
Sure.
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>>383740258
They left after Halo 3, funny thing is after Halo 3 that's when the quality in their games dropped.
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>>383735310
Bungie is a studio that I have on my blacklist. I refuse to play their games or give them any currency. I don't care what they produce, they are complicit in things that I have a great distaste for and thus consider them an enemy. I give them no quarter and only hope that they either redeem themselves or become a footnote in the annals of history.
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Bungie can I haz recons?
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>>383739758
end your fucking life
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>>383749947
>>383750617
>>383751210
It's probably one of the most mismanaged games of all time.

It's sad that 2 is somehow turning out to be even worse.
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>>383739904
Everyone ITT is confusing recoil with spread, and it's sickening .
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>>383752201
Fucking this. Now I really want someone to ask this to a bungie developer during an interview.
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>>383736092
Just put your dildo up your ass if you want vibration that bad.
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>>383741651
in destiny some weapons have "Target Acquisition" and some weapons have Scatter Bombs, and others give you a speed buff. I dont understand what is actually bad about this?
>>
ITT: Taking the bait
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>>383752148
They got were on my shitlist with ODST, after I wasted money on Reach and it was shit, I blacklisted their asses. The second I saw the E3 gameplay for Destiny 1, I knew it would be shit. I hope these fuckbags never make another Halo game again. I refuse to buy anything with Bungie's name on it. How far the mighty have fallen.
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>>383752287
Two seems way better managed.

At the very least Activision did not scrap the story 9 months before release.

All destiny needed was a story, and decent progression, and it seems that this one nailed it.
>>
>>383752626
>not liking ODST

Reach I understand, but ODST?

Nigga just blacklist your life.
>>
pc casuals can't get easy mode
not surpised
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>>383752626
They were on mine upon my receiving a copy of Halo 2 as a birthday present. When I couldn't run it I pretty much blacklisted the studio and their entire portfolio.
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>>383752773
It was the start
>empty world
>flashbacks that didn't do anything for the story
>Dare not calling you the second you drop out of your pod
>The Rookie grabbing then throwing objects over and over again
>linear for a so called open world game
>terrible final level
>2 hours long
>locking Halo 3's final maps on some expansion
>no longer giving away Recon helmets because of ODST's release
>stealing Gears and COD's idea and somehow make a worst mode
>forced firefight in the campaign
>plot inconsistencies with Halo 2 and 3
ODST was shit too.
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>>383736281
Is KF2 in anyway comparable?
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>>383736092
the rumble works well when you're holding it in your hand, but you have the keyboard and mouse on a surface, that would be annoying to have it rattling around
>>
>>383753326
forgot
>false advertisement (I thought I wasn't supposed to feel like a Spartan)
>no equipment or dual wielding
>slow while faster than a Spartan carrying support weapons
>grain filter
>HDR bloom
>fucked up grenade throwing
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>>383735310
>"you don’t want the mouse moving without you moving it, so recoil doesn’t feel good, so there is no recoil on PC."

I'm not sure what this statement is trying to say.
Does that person think that if you fire a gun in the game it moves your mouse automatically?
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Shaw @ShockAndShaw

1/2 Re:Recoil model on PC- it's modified heavily on PC for awesome M/KB gameplay that still feels like Destiny. But we still have recoil.
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>>383753523
>responding to obvious, blatant as fuck sarcasm 3.5 hours later
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>>383753569
>I thought I wasn't supposed to feel like a Spartan
>Muh grenade throwing is off
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>>383752314
I doubt a single developer left there will remember what that phrase even means
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>>383753794
And some how I'm supposed to believe an ODST can jump on top of a truck, beat down any Covenant member, one many army the Covenant, tear off support weapons like they're Spartans, destroy vehicles with their bare hands, have invisible shields. That's not how it works.
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>>383736297
No thanks. I'm not a fucking retard.
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>>383735673
recoil isnt taking away control, its just working against you, which you have to control against. bullet spread, on the other hand, separate from recoil, is bullshit and does take away player control
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>>383754449
You obviously are.
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>>383753569
>I thought I wasn't supposed to feel like a Spartan

They were very clear that you were not a spartan at all, in every advertisement and pre release interview.

This pretty much sums up the true problem, you are a retarded pleb
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>>383735310
If they just make an option to turn the recoil on or off on every version, I'd be fine with this. Customization is a great thing to have.
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>>383755145
No, they stated in interviews that the game would more focused on stealth and you could no longer rush out there into battle. You would have lower health and you wouldn't be able to really beatdown Covenant members because you weren't the Chief, I can care less about the commercials, I'm basing everything off Bungie's lying ass interviews about the shit game.
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>>383739758
Holy shit. Stop this, you moron.
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>>383755145
Are you stupid or merely pretending to be retarded? His problem was clearly that ODST didn't really play differently despite being touted as a different experience since you're not a Spartan.
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>>383755381
>No, they stated in interviews that the game would more focused on stealth and you could no longer rush out there into battle. You would have lower health and you wouldn't be able to really beatdown Covenant members because you weren't the Chief

And, knowing this, your retarded ass thought you were playing a spartan. Knowing that the game was called ODST. Knowing what ODST were from halo 2 and 3.

What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
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>>383735310
>PC players are autists
>console gamers just want to have fun
Good decision.
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>>383756032
>His problem was clearly that ODST didn't really play differently

Except it does. Holy shit, you don't even have shields. Melee does way different damage. You don't run, or jump as high. Guns have more recoil. No dual.
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>>383756295
>And, knowing this, your retarded ass thought you were playing a spartan
I can't tell if you're retarded, have autism, have both, or just trolling. If I'm playing a normal human in Halo, then I damn well better feel like one too.
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>>383756441
>doing this much anal licking
How much is Bungie paying you?
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>>383756914
that post doesn't seem to favor odst either way
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>>383756441
You do have shields it is just called Stamina did you even play ODST?
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>>383756441
>No dual
I'm this guy here>>383756914
So if you can't dual wield I guess that makes you physically weaker than Miranda in Halo 2 and 3, huh? The fact that you can use Human made equipment (Bubble Shields, Regenerator, Trip Mine), that must make you weaker than the average Human as well, huh?
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>>383757813
*you're
>>
To retards:

Have you ever left your controller on a flat surface and then something happened in the game and it rumbled, causing it to move all over the surface and make hellish noises? That is why there (probably) aren't any mice or keyboards with vibration.
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Every Halo game should play like Halo, If BUNGiE actually made ODST like as an ODST, then it wouldn't be Halo.
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>>383759090
That's the point, you're not the Master Chief, you're not a Spartan II, so you shouldn't feel like one. It would be jarring as hell if you played as a GF trooper in Metroid Prime without the mech and he played exactly like Samus Aran even though he is not her or a Bounty Hunter. What I'm getting at is that if ODST's are just as good as Spartans, then what's the point of Spartans?
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>>383739339
I wish a butch black woman would force herself on me...
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I don't see why, a game like Dirty Bomb that does do the recoil it's talking about plays good.
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>>383735660
Making more negev tier guns
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>>383735310
Now waiting for vibration sensor for the mouse to experience the magic in the controller.
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>>383740028
There's already PC gameplay out and people have given their impressions after their hand-ons session.
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>>383752287
If anything it looks to be much better.
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>muh recoil

if you want to draw stupid upside down question marks all day just play csgo

when i play a shooter i want bullets to go where i point them -_-
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