Why do you hate this It's perfect

Because of you this franchise will die. Fuck all of you splatoon playing shits

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Because it wasn't Metroid.

> Got it for free with the Wii Mini exploit
> Enjoy it a lot
It was fun for sure. Too bad we'll never see another one

I don't think it was fun at all.

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>>383730079
But was Metroid ever good tho?

>>383730369
I feel sorry for you

>>383730418
The Prime series never were
2D is fun for a playthrough but it loses its charm after that unless you're a speedrunning degenerate

>>383729498
I don't hate it

It's perfect

>>383730418
Calm down, I'm only parroting the crybabies who thought Retro doing Tropical Freeze meant Metroid couldn't be done.

After playing it like three times now I think I've come to the conclusion that it surpasses the original Country games. It's probably my favorite platformer of all time.

>>383730483
That's OK, sometimes it's not easy to have standards.

>>383730284
>>383729925
Why the fuck are people so sure DK is never getting another game? DK has had a game on every major Nintendo console since the NES, what makes the switch any different?

>>383730773
That's certainly one way of framing it

Do you think it's possible that Tropical Dong was actually a fantastic game. And you were unable to enjoy it because of some personal hangup?

Because one player must be DK for some reason.
I want to play with just Cranky and Diddy.

>>383730958
Probably not, because it felt just as mediocre and unfunny as all of the other DKC games.

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>>383730954
this

DK will never die
It will also never stop being fantastic

I love it, but enemy design is trash. Step up your baddies game, Retro

>>383731029
>unfunny
What a strange thing to comment on

>>383730954
I think they mean the Returns series, not Donkey Kong.

>>383730954
>>383731046
The Wii U flopping and everyone wanting Switch ports is why. If they port Tropical Freeze, we're not getting a new game until the next console.

>>383731071
penguins were better than Tikis at least

>>383731156
I meant unfun.

>>383731029
>unfunny
Was it supposed to be funny?

>>383731071
It was way better than the Tikis at least.

>>383731182
With that logic we arent gettinv a Mario Kart on Switch either.

slow ass nintendo game
>current year
>niintenbros still cant into blast processing

>>383731182
What makes you say that?

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>Bought it
>Played
>Enjoyed it alot
>Still not sure why it's propped up in particular above the other really good WiiU 2D platformers but having access to Diddy, Tiny, and Cranky is god damn fun as hell. Cranky is my favorite.

>>383729498
I don't hate it. GOAT 2D platformer.

>>383731259
I'm honestly sorry that you didn't enjoy it, anon.

I hope you don't feel like you wasted your money

>>383731357
Last line wasn't meant to be greentext

>>383731241
>>383731290
>penguinmind

Yeah, absolutely, but it was just "less shit", not actually good. Everything looks too goofy in my opinion, and Scooby Kong shouldn't be such a thing, but that's not only on Retro, it's a Nintendo issue in general

>>383731357
What other really good wii u platformers are there?

The only 2D platformer on the Wii U that can compete with Tropical Freeze is Rayman Legends, but that's a multiplat.

>>383731357
>Still not sure why it's propped up in particular above the other really good WiiU 2D platformers
>other really good WiiU 2D platformers
LOL

>>383731182
Proof other than what you pull from your ass?

>>383731182
This kind of logic makes no sense at all. Retro made Prime 3 for Wii and then ported Prime 1 and 2 to Wii later on.

>>383731357
I personally think it's the best 2D platformer on Wii U, and it's a fantastic example of how to make a 2D platformer with 3D graphics. The characters still seemed to have life, it wasn't just the typical lazy act of making it 3D so you can make one character model to animate instead of drawing different sprites. That's what ugly shit like MN9 and Cave Story 3D did. DKCTF even had some tech, that fur effect was a neat little trick. It's the best hair effect I've ever seen that wasn't some bruteforce lose 20 FPS shit like Hairworks.

I really want to play this, but I don't want to get a Wii U and find out this is getting ported to the Swtich later or something.

>>383731046
Donkey Kong 94 is so fucking great. What ever happened to Masayuki Kameyama? And why did Mario vs Donkey Kong turn into such a shit series?

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>>383731601
>Luigi U
>Wooly World
>Mario Maker
>Bad

>>383731649
I never tried emulating Wii U, but supposedly the emulation for it works well now. If you don't want to see if it gets a Switch port, you can try that.

>>383731046
Jungle Beat 2 when? Koizumi needs to realize its full potential.

>>383731745
>Wooly World
>good
Yoshi games have always been awful.

>>383731357
>Still not sure why it's propped up in particular above the other really good WiiU 2D platformers
the music
the sense of speed
the creative gimmicks
the sheer amount of work that went into the dynamic, multi-plane level design

That's what did it for me, anyway

If we're talking about recent Nintendo platformers, I'd say...
Tropical Dong > Wario Land Shake It > Return to Dreamland > DKCR > Woolly World > Rainbow Curse > Epic Yarn >>> NSMBU > NSMBW

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>>383731804
Look at these hot opinions.

Snes Yoshi and Wooly World are the worthwhile ones.

>>383731804
>Island
>Bad
So have your opinions apparently.

>>383731745
I played half of Wooly World and made like one level in Mario Maker. I want to play both again, but DKCTF had me playing until the very end and I want to replay it right now.

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>>383731541

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>It's perfect
I enjoyed it, but it's not perfect.
>very repetitive bonus rooms, even worse since concept art showed off things like a snowball fight room
>underwater levels brought back, but no Enguarde/Rambi is the only animal buddy with Squawks as an item
>oxygen meter
>Diddy, Dixie, and Cranky aren't really partners, just glorified power-ups for DK
>Diddy feels useless compared to Dixie's hover hop and Cranky's ability to kill everything
>have to unlock hard mode
>default difficulty is still two Kongs with two hearts each instead of one
>disappointing secret world with only three levels
>no real build up to the final boss
>the polar bear was a better boss than the final boss
>diorama viewer is too zoomed in so you can't view everything as you rotate the figurines which actually have a lot of detail put into them
>sound test missing significant amount of songs when this is some of Wise's best work
>Cranky being playable means you've only got Funky to talk to and he's kind of boring

Intro stage is game design kino.
The rest is meh.

>>383731430
>I hope you don't feel like you wasted your money
I do.

Every time a DKC game comes out people rave about it and I think "maybe it won't be bad this time. There's no way they'll still be as bad as I think they are, is there?" And every time, I get bamboozled with a bad game.

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>>383731804
I'm sorry you feel that way

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>>383731828
>the music

this, basically

also, best track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEId-ERa0M0

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>Nintendo announces Prime 4 when it's so early in development they can only show a logo
>Meanwhile Retro has been working on an unannounced game for 3 years

>>383729498
>make an entirely new game
>slap donkey kong characters in it
>brand it as a 20 year old precision platformer when it's just recycled cinematic indie platform trash
fuck every dipshit teenager and manchild who bought this Retro-developed shit. God damn you.

>>383731314
Mario always sells.

>>383731342
Donkey Kong doesn't have a dedicated developer. I don't consider Retro the IP's sole developer. Someone like Rare who was eager to make DK games and not held back by certain people wanting to do their own thing. The funny thing is Tropical Freeze was a fluke, The name Returns implied it was supposed to be a one-off. Outselling Zelda put it on the map and forced them to keep it there.

Plus, if it's not Mario it's usually a one-game-per-console deal. Zelda being the rare exception.

>>383731609
Look at everyone clamoring that they want an HD port of Returns and Tropical Freeze as a two package deal. It's easy to port a game than to make a new one.

>>383731610
That's not a good example, Retro was more or less the Metroid developer, and made three games in a five year timespan compared to the two games they did in seven years with DKC. Couple that with the Metroid fans bitching about another DK game and it's clear that DK is taking a backseat. Yes, I know Prime 4 isn't being developed by Retro, but my point still stands. The Wii U was a flop and Tatsumi is a businessman. If people want Wii U games on the Switch, they're getting them.

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>>383731828
I assume were only counting console ones which is a shame because both 3DS kirby's are GOAT

>>383731745
None of those games are even remotely close to being as good as TF you nincompoop.

>>383731828
>Wario Land Shake It above games with actual platforming
Shake It's level design is bland as fuck. It just looks pretty. Kind of like Rainbow Curse.

>>383731947
I'm sorry anon, that must be really frustrating for you.

It's probably even worse when you see people making threads like these. I bet it dredges up old feelings of disappointment and hurt.

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>>383732089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAfo6YI4KGs

>>383732175
>kirby
>platformer
at this point they're just easy beat em ups

>>383731917
>Diddy, Dixie, and Cranky aren't really partners, just glorified power-ups for DK
This is the biggest annoyance about this game. Retro had a big hard on for Dixie and making her invalidate Diddy in almost every way EXCEPT for his speed underwater.... which of course gets curbed half the time because Dixie's hair twirl is required for most hidden shit underwater anyway.

>have to unlock hard mode
Why is this a problem? Its not meant to be a difficulty setting, its meant to be an extra challenge that fills out 200%

>>383729498
Didn't you know Anon?
/v/ has to hate all games, irregardless of the actual quality.

>>383729498
I don't hate it but almost everything outside of the core game was meh to garbage. I'm still mad at how bad the bonus levels were, this shit was perfected back in DKC 2/3; they had no excuse.

>>383732098
>Implying they didn't just show the logo because they knew that would be enough for now
Why show off gameplay now when you'll get an insane reaction from the logo now AND the gameplay later?

who else is hoping Retro is working on the final installment in the new DKC trilogy? Since MP4 is a new team, apparently.

>>383731914
Don't you dare show me that nu-K. Rool from a spin-off fanfic tier sports game, you heretic fuck

>>383732269
>Its not meant to be a difficulty setting, its meant to be an extra challenge that fills out 200%
Some of us want that challenge unlocked by default? The heck, an option is now a bad thing?

>>383732182
Nigger, if you didn't get all 99 treasures you don't get to talk about the level design in WLS

The stages were designed in a way that you could run through them and basically bypass every interesting puzzle and platforming challenge. If you didn't get all 99 treasures, you cheated yourself out of a seriously good game.

Also that fucking soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YeFT-CjBuo

>>383732175
triple deluxe was shit

>>383732269
>Its not meant to be a difficulty setting, its meant to be an extra challenge that fills out 200%
All it does is remove a Kong+heart. Why not have it available from the beginning?

>>383732314
Retro isn't making Prime 4 though.

>>383732480
source?

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>no king k rool

>>383732379
cherrypick harder you nostalgic fuck

>>383732536
>source
>explicitly stated
http://nintendoeverything.com/retro-not-working-on-metroid-prime-4-made-by-talented-new-development-team/

>>383732472
why not just hurt yourself an extra time whenever you take damage. if you wanna play by those rules?

>>383729498
I'm sure a bunch of fuming manchildren bitched and moaned about the legitimacy of the original DKC games when they were released too. Doesn't change the fact that Returns and Tropical Freeze was aimed at neglected 2000's kids whose retarded parents bought them a fucking WII U. It's completely soulless and I probably wouldn't give a fuck if they didn't call it Donkey Kong Country, but they did and that makes it a completely different game misrepresented as nostalgia bait.

>>383732536
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/13/e3-2017-metroid-prime-4-is-not-developed-by-retro-still-has-longtime-series-producer

>>383732410
Well hard mode in this game prevents you from using any of the other kongs, and I don't think they wanted new players to experience the game that way.

>>383732410
You wouldn't be able to complete hard mode just starting the game with no prior experience with the level design.

>>383732472
It removes checkpoints too, so you are basically having to play every level and boss perfectly all the way through. If you can't unlock hardmode by 100% the game you are not going to beat the game in hard mode your first time

>>383732613
thanks for the source, anon

I appreciate it

>>383732643
>and I don't think they wanted new players to experience the game that way
Then don't pick hard mode

>>383732683
>You wouldn't be able to complete hard mode just starting the game with no prior experience with the level design.
You don't fucking know me

>>383732317
I kinda want them to make their own IP honestly.

That or maybe donkey kong country as a 3D platformer.

>>383730508
Agreed, I'm honestly glad Retro stopped working in Prime, for Donkey Kong Country games, because they are so much better.

>>383732683
>You wouldn't be able to complete hard mode just starting the game with no prior experience with the level design.
That's fucking retarded, Anon. Anyone can start a game on a harder difficulty setting and still beat it.

>>383732856
>Agreed, I'm honestly glad Retro stopped working in Prime
This

You could tell they were burned out with MP3

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>Tfw GameSpot gave this game a 6/10

>>383731241
You can do a lot more with tikis, then with penguins.

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>>383732683
>You wouldn't be able to complete hard mode just starting the game with no prior experience
I'm glad literally no video game ever made prior to Tropical Freeze had difficulty settings you could choose.

>>383732964
>than

>>383732945
>IGN called the game too hard because they kept falling in pits

>>383729498
I think I might give this game another shot. Was the yoshi wooly world game any good? I recently started playing my wiiu again and it's seriously the most comfy console of all time, really having a blast.

>>383732181
Tropical Freeze was my GOTY 2014 and I still think Woolly World is slightly better. I actually found the Woolly World special stages more frustrating than most of the DKCTF special stages, especially since I was going for a 100% in the WW ones. Woolly Bill's Last Ride is the stuff of nightmares. Took me longer than all of 7 - 1, 7 - 2, and 7 - 3.

>>383733150
>Was the yoshi wooly world game any good?

It's alright, it's a much better game if you're a completionist. Finding all the hidden stuff is great.

>>383733150
definitely worth playing with a friend

>>383733150
Woolly World is better with a friend. Alone it's kind of boring and you realize it has worse bosses, aiming, movement than original YI.

>>383732317
If I remember right they said they started work on the new project before TF was even out so unless there's been a change of plans I doubt it's another Donkey Kong.

>>383732865
>>383733002
I mean if you are too shit to 100% the game to unlock Hard mode then I don't really think your ever going to beat Hard mode even if it was selectable from the start.

>>383729498
Because someone talked about it in a positive manner in public on this board.

>>383733631
>I mean if you are too shit to 100% the game to unlock Hard mode
But that's not difficult. The difficulty is in hard mode, which you're not allowed to touch until you beat the easier setting.

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>>383733631
Anon, stop trying to defend having an arbitrary gate.

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>>383732683
>>383732865
>>383733631
Tropical Freeze is pretty weird when it comes to difficulty.
>generally easier than Returns
>rocket barrels take more hits by default
>hard mode removes checkpoints and only lets you take one hit
>but you can play as Diddy, Dixie, and Cranky who all have an ability that helps them perform safer jumps and kill enemies
>making Hard 'DK only' wouldn't have felt like much of a reward
They should have changed up the enemies or made minor tweaks to levels since you don't need to collect anything on hard, just beat the levels.

>>383734037
Hard mode isn't something you should play when you first start playing the game. This isn't like an RTS where they can improve the AI's build order, it literally requires you to be perfect at the game and honestly having played the game to 200% a couple times I really don't think it would be that enjoyable thus why they locked it, outside of simply wanting to provide a reward for 100% the game.

>>383735081
>Hard mode isn't something you should play when you first start playing the game
When the fuck were you born, you underage retard?

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>>383735081
>I really don't think it would be that enjoyable
Just because you were terrible doesn't mean other people would struggle as hard as you did.

>>383734667
No, you do need to collect the letters.
>>generally easier than Returns
I'd say it's harder outside of the lack of those moments in Returns that were straight up trial and error or poorly designed (coffee coffee giant bat). The challenge is more honest.

>>383735337
>>383735131
Your still the ones complaining that you have to beat the game to unlock the hard difficulty so apparently If I am shit what does that make you retards?

>>383735474
*coff coff
Fucking autocorrect.

>>383735523
>that you have to beat the game to unlock the hard difficulty
Yes because it's tedious for such a crappy unlock. Don't tell me your retarded ass assumed I couldn't beat the main game.

>>383729498
>Perfect
>Awkward controls
Nope.

>>383735474
>No, you do need to collect the letters
You don't need to collect K-O-N-G letters in hard mode since they don't go toward anything. It just counts you beating the game.

>>383735676
>tedious
kek why are you even fucking playing the game if you don't want to play the game? Jesus christ what kind of moron are you?

>>383735721
>Akward control

Retard spotte. Jesus man get help

>>383735762
>not blueing all the levels
It's more relevant than a percentage.

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>>383729498
Because you started the thread with "why do you hate this?". This is signaling the contrarians and shitposters to come forward and use their nitpicks to explain why the game is 0/10 trash.
It's your fault for being new, OP.

>>383730369
This
>Levels are EXTREMELY fucking long
>all those missables
>Gameplay is NSMB lite
>Time trial garbage

>>383729498
No one hate it. It is considered the third best DKC game.

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>>383735523
>people want to play the harder difficulty from the start
>wow you must really suck if you can't play through it on normal
Please stop and think about what you're saying for a second.

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>>383732945
>>383733126
Two of the best platformers ever and they complain about them being too difficult. Worse one being from a day where we beaten it 100% as a kid.

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>>383736026
>>Gameplay is NSMB lite
What the fuck does that even mean? It plays nothing like NSMB except it being of the same genre.

I would like both DKCR games ported to the Switch, the original in HD.

I would like a third game to round off the trilogy, featuring Kremlings.

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>>383735081
>Hard mode isn't something you should play when you first start playing the game
Sometimes the normal difficulty is just way too easy. Pic related.
>>383736026
>all those missables
It's pretty tame compared to the older games.

>>383736062
2nd best you mean, debatebly 1st

>>383731772
>Jungle beat 2 for switch
>Use the joy cons as drum sticks, HD rumble simulates the drum beat

Would you buy it?

>>383736163

I don't know, but everyone seems to be spouting this meme lately, like calling 3D World NSMB in 3D.

I don't even think they understand what they're talking about, and just parrot whatever they hear.

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>>383736390
>you can FEEL the bananas you grab

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>>383729498
where are the kremlings?
why doesn't rolling into an enemy extend your roll?
why are run and grab on separate buttons?

removing waggle from dkcr wii through gecko codes puts roll and grab on 1 button, just like the snes days. and ground pound/blow on down/up.

>>383736069
I mean I've back and forthed enough on this shit. If you want to keep stroking your ego and acting like you could play the game perfectly your first time through then more power to yah. I'll just stick with having fun doing 200% play through of the game.

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>>383732089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d1jTRvxZkQ
I'll always love the second half with Stickerbrush Symphony but the the Wing Ding part is my favorite.

>>383736752
>If you want to keep stroking your ego and acting like you could play the game perfectly your first time through
I never said I'd play it perfectly the first time through, you presumptuous idiot. Do you seriously believe people can't have fun starting on harder difficulties? Does starting a game and seeing things past "Normal" send you into a blind rage?

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>>383736502
Every time you make a blow to an enemy or object they have different feeling to them.

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>>383732945
>they gave the crash remasters a 6 because they were too hard
>they gave luigi's mansion dark moon a 6 because it was too hard
I've never seen a review site with consistently shit reviews with the same score for the exact same reason.

>>383736642
jumping on an enemy also had more of a finetunedness to it in the snes games. the DKC's by Retro felt like Jungle Beat, which was only fun because of the drums.

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>>383735523
>>383736752
>nobody could possibly want to enjoy a video game challenge off the bat
>everyone likes to play the way I do
>and anyone who disagrees just wants to show off that they're better than me! WELL I'M HAVING FUN MY WAY!
S t o p.

>>383737283
>Dark Moon
>hard
what
aside from the ice boss having the worst combination of gimmicks ever it was pretty easy

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>>383737283
>implying Dark Moon doesn't deserve a 6
This was the best part of it and it didn't even work right some of the time thanks to keys glitching out and not spawning.

>>383737301
Kek, the fiction in your head is hilarious anime-fag

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I honestly feel like this game was the beginning of "reviewers not liking ____ because they are awful at video games."

Thanks, Gamespot.

>buy Tropical Freeze
>get to third world
>can't hold my interest
>stop playing

When does it get good

>>383737913
>review was so terrible NoA even called them out on twitter
Literally the best thing to come from that, anyone have the screen cap from twitter?

>>383737913
Nah, God Hand was the start of it.
It blew up after Tropickle Cheese.

>>383737913
That's because you're underage.

>>383738452
ebin

>>383738123
>game is full of nothing but fall apart platforms
>"it's YOUR fault you died!"

Yeah no, Gamespot was right this time

>>383738616
just jump, son
as easy as that

>>383738616
They literally could not make it over gaps, they were fucking retarded.

>>383738573
No, really. Games have always gotten low scores for being "too hard"
Tropical Freeze wasn't the first, nor was it the one with the lowest score

>inafter a million chucklefucks complain about the motion controls

I went right back to them after 15 minutes. They're superior imo, and I'll be bummed if they're removed for the Switch sequel.

>>383729498
Since when did people hate tropical freeze?

>>383737913
>the beginning of "reviewers not liking ____ because they are awful at video games.
That's like every critical review of platformers from the 90s

>>383735465
>Dangly Spaghettiexpander

That does NOT roll off the tongue holy shit

>>383738978
Oh yeah totally forgot the reviewer scene was so big in the 90's

>>383738904
When it was announced at E3 2013. There was a ton of bitching that it wasn't Metroid or some ambitious new ip.

>>383738904
When they played it.

>>383738826
>motion controls
>Tropical Freeze
?????

>>383739037
>it wasn't as big so therefore it never happened

>>383729498
Because it feels like there's some lag whenever I jump or roll

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>>383738904
I know I hated it. I beat the game, but only so I can keep people from claiming "you never played it." No one at Retro knew why we loved the snes games.

>>383739637
Reviewers had little to no impact on gaming in the 90's, if you say otherwise you're delusional.

>>383730692
They were right though
>No Metroid for WiiU
>Prime 4 isn't by Retro

>>383738616
Gamespot can't even beat Sonic Lost world.

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>>383732175
Kirby is the shittiest video game series ever.

>>383732175
>3DS kirby's are GOAT
Only Robobot was good and even then it was way too short.

>>383733150
Yoshi's Woolly World on the Wii U is obsolete when the 3DS has the better version with extra Poochy levels.

>>383732089
Wing Ding Inside and Outside are such fucking good songs.
But man, Busted Bayou and Windmill Hill, fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95HuSMQSUVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzhOnSFcfQg
Bonus Grassland Groove for that sweet rampup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss421nbCAJE

>>383739706
>we

>>383740871
This
You can argue "muh graphics" all you want but the gameplay and levels is all that matters (plus it's portable)

>>383740947
>No scorch and torch
>No homecoming hijinks and seashore war

At least you got busted bayou

>>383741243
>>383740947
I never see fucking anyone mention alpine incline or fruity factory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWckr41oNCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db9Ul5tVPP4

Its one of the top ten platformers of all time, up there with smw and yoshis island

can't beat the orignals

>>383739706
Again, Returns was a one-off that got big. Even though TF is superior, there's still a bit of stuff lacking, like more animal buddies, the overall use of old assets musically. You'll never not hear Aquatic Ambience in a water level, Rare made each DKC game different from the other, from the visual style, the enemies and music.

>>383742459
I can only listen to aquatic ambience so much. new music pls. Also, stop depending on David Wise for music. The best music came from him collaborating with other musicians with their own styles.

protip: eveline fischer was the one that pushed for the more ambient themes in the game. David wanted to always go big and jazzy.

>>383730418
no idk why people hype over prime 4 I played prime 1 and i's trash. no story and no sense of progression.

>>383742607
What? TF has a ton of new music.

>>383743083
Actual good music. TF's music was subpar.

where do you guys get your Wii U isos?