hmm

>>383729295

What did they mean by this?

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>>383729295
Wow, this game is fucked

>>383729295
I'm fine with them rating mei 3* difficulty so babbies stay away from her and stop blocking my ults with ice wall

Seems about right as far as how easy it is to pick a character up.

Its much easier to royally fuck your team playing Mei then Soldier when you first start out. Symetra requires some amount of map knowledge to be remotely useful.

>>383730040
A good Mei that actually knows their shit is much harder to find than someone who can decently aim as solly. Also her moves can fuck over her own team if she is played improperly.
Fair ratings.

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>play overwatch at release
>jokingly make fun of my friends because they play "one star difficulty characters"
>they get so fucking autistic and angry
>try to call me out
>play only Zarya and Zenyatta, both 3 star difficulty characters.

>>383730242
>map design
>Overwatch
>"Oh fuck, there's the one GIGANTIC CHOKE POINT on this map! And there's the side route that some characters can use."
God dammit.

>>383729295
I would disagree that mei is harder than symmetra

>>383729295
The difficulty rating seems to be mostly based on the complexity of the character's abilities are and not the mechanical skill it requires to play them. Soldier requires fairly good aim, but his kit is extremely easy to understand. Symmetra's abilities are complex but her weapons are auto aim and don't require skill. Mei is a bit of both, so she gets the 3 star.

>>383729295
the difficulty ratings are stupid, and shows that blizzard designed heroes with one specific playstyle in mind, and had no concept of using a hero in any other way
thats why ana is such a brutal healer, she was designed for people who can't aim so putting someone who can behind the wheel makes her outrageous
Mei would be difficult if you played her defensively and blocked enemies and damage like intended, but she's a monster if she runs around 1v1ing stragglers and flankers because of the shitty freeze ability and her self heal
blizzard has no idea what the fuck they're doing

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>>383729295
Woooooaaaahhhhhhhh you're saying a game by Activision-Blizzard is bad?????????????????????????????????????????????????? NO wayy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We had no way to predict that this could have ever happened, not in a million, or even ten million years of time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>383730605
I mean she isn't that much harder to pick up then soldier but he is pretty fucking straightforward in comparison kit wise.

>>383730995
Mei is meh against anyone with good range or some sort of mobility/escape which most of the cast has.

>>383729295
But that's right. Soldier is literally good at everything, only ever has to worry about D.Va impeding his progress, and is the easiest hero to learn how to be good with because he's lucky enough to have a hitscan gun on top of an amazing kit/ult. Symmetra's a game-sense hero. You need to understand the flow of matches, what each hero is good at, how common comps work, and how people like to play to be at all useful to your team with her. Mei's a game-sense hero too, but her game-sense is a lot more complicated then Syms' and she also has to learn how to aim delayed projectiles to do damage to anyone.

Mei is probably the hardest hero in OW to learn how to play at a good (read:Upper master/Grandmaster) level.

The only times you want to be using the freeze from Meis gun is on tanks, some situations against genji, some situations against lucio and when someone's caught in your ult because the two freezes "stack" to freeze people faster. Any other situation and your best play is to be firing off icicles at heads. Headshot+Body kills 200 health characters, headshot 1shots tracer/baby d.va. Also, learn how to use your wall offensively to separate the enemy team for easy picks. Rein is pretty hard-countered in teamfights by a Mei that actually understands how to use her wall.

>>383731731
Pro tournaments are useless for gleaming meta advice from. Unless you know and understand the strategies that the teams are going for with their comps then simply copying them will not do you a single bit of good.

>>383731731
>game is so bad it rolled back into the days of x2 Lucio/Winston/Tracer
Lol. Though I'm kinda surprised Zenyatta finds a spot in dive comp.

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>W+M1
>skill

>>383732090
>Unless you know and understand the strategies that the teams are going for
How is it not possible to see the strategy they are going for. "Wow they are diving on point with fast heroes I wonder what could possibly be going through their mind woah"

It's not hard to comprehend basic strategy my man. I am sick of people like you in all of my multiplayer games. I'll say "pros use this hero so it must be good, it's in every game." The reply from fags like you: "UM BUT YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY COMPREHENNNNNNDDDDDDD WHAT STRATEGY THEY ARE GOING FORRRR WITH THAT HERO CHOICE!!!! IT IS SIMPLY TOO PHILOSOPHICAL TO COMREPEHEND IT!!!!!"
>it's a fucking stupid hero with 3 buttons and a big ultimate
Woah gee i wonder what strategy they are going to play with this one!! I can't comprehend how to press R and click the map!!! not at all!

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>>383731731
>tfw main both S tier characters and submain D.va

Why is movement speed the most broken stat in the game?

>>383732804
>Game where everyone but two heroes move at the same speed
>Maps are entirely based around the defenders holding a series of chokepoints
Gee. Not really a difficult question to figure out.

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>>383732742
>that feel when you play the shittiest popular game besides League

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Mei's rating is fine if you're not a retard.

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>>383732090
>>383732090
>Pro tournaments are useless for gleaming meta advice from.
Nigga there's literally no reason to not run a D.va+Winston+Lucio pick, shit's fucking bonkers: winston dives the healsluts, D.va protects the monkey's dick and the rest of the team cleans the survivors. Only memedrafts can stop it, but you know plat friends love to "follow" the meta and insists on going 2/2/2.
I literally got to masters playing winston/d.va/tracer, nice game blizzcucks.

>>383729295
Unironically makes perfect sense

>>383733079
What kind of fucking retarded logic is this?
Mei is easy as fuck to play to full potential, hence the idiocy in making her 3 star difficulty.

If you're think playing Mei is difficult, you're the retarded gimp.

>>383731731
>S Tier
>followed by Tier 1
fucking why. just go to A - B - C

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>>383731731
>tfw Widow main

I got pretty good at detecting salt levels in matches and I love it.

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>>383732975
Who cares, I find it fun. Especially in high masters where people are actually kind of good at the game so it's pretty challenging. Only issue comes from the bitchy players who complain all match, but their is mute button for a reason.

>>383729295
>le call of duty man

sounds about right

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>>383733931
Some people just can't admit to having fun anon. I like Overwatch too.

>>383733494
You are aware that dive is a 2/2/2 meta... Right? Two of Genji/Tracer/Pharah/76, D.Va/Winston, Lucio, and one of Zen(discord is huge), Sombra (usually more dmg, much more ultility, much more survivability), or Ana (maximum heals).

Of course, mercy mains are a bunch of incompetent faggots who only ever play one hero(poorly) so you'll often wind up running this bizarre dive+mercy comp that either doesn't have a lucio or a zen/(other) depending on map and doesn't fucking work because mercy is shit in and against dive. Even picking Pharah doesn't help mercy because either she's floating around doing nothing with her staff up pharahs ass on the flank or she's actually helping the team and making a big fat target of herself. She can't do both at once and either way she winds up fucking over her team just by existing.

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>Reinhardt 1 star difficulty
I actually find him hard to play, I can't even practice with him in comp since the enemy just stomps on me.

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>>383733835
>Somebody goes Winston do dive Widowmain
>Widow just headshots him while he's diving til he's dead, or flies away while shooting at him
>Team bitches all match how Winston isn't killing Widow
>Sometimes Mercy just pockets Widow to make sure she can't be dived
Ayo fuck you Widowmain. This amount of salt isn't even fair.

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>>383734110
Mercy mains like the dive meta because they love getting fucked in the ass.

>>383734497
Don't play Rein in this comp family. The meta fucks him up, and he can't defend for shit while monkey, tracer, genji, etc fly past him.

>>383734497
might be because rectangle man has been made irrelevant by dive and youre fucking your team over by playing him

>>383734053
>Some people just can't admit to having fun anon.
have you ever considered that some people dont find overwatch fun

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>>383734497
Isn't Doomfist a counter to him?t. Consolefag still waiting for him

>>383731731
have any of the tier 5 characters ever been buffed to try to even things out?

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>>383734678
Yes, I just meant in general. Shitposters pretend to hate everything and it gets a little annoying.

>>383729295
Its a ded
literally a dedgem
All competitive teams are disbanding and blizzard has 0 plans to make it into an esports

Koreans are getting sick and pros and streamers are quitting left to right, dropped to 10% from 25%

>>383734110
Yeah, I know what a 2/2/2 is right now, I was talking about how many teams on comp don't know how to counter dive and are afraid of using other heroes like Sombra, Mei or Bastion.

>Of course, mercy mains are a bunch of incompetent faggots who only ever play one hero(poorly)...
You're right, fuck these sissy idiots, they are the worst mains on this game.

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>>383734921
>and blizzard has 0 plans to make it into an esports

good, should have been that way from the start

>>383734497
Rein's easy to learn how to play well. Just keep the mindset that you are a fucking rectangle. Keep your shield up, throw a firestrike every 8 seconds - unless there's a (good) widow around, then not dropping shield takes priority over building ult. Get good at baiting shatters out of enemy reins and try to work on not getting baited yourself. Don't waste shatter on fights that are already won. Don't charge ever. Let your team know when your shield's about to go down a little bit ahead of time. Try to remember to rest it between fights instead of just keeping it held when nothing's happening.

The more cautiously you play rein the better you play him "well". Mastering him and playing him great takes a fuckton of game knowledge, even knowing how and when to charge, so good luck with that. Also, he's really kinda shit in this meta so you're better off learning d.va or winston right now.

>>383734793
Yes and many times. Most of them are not viable because D.va has this Defense Matrix thing or just are plain underpowered (Torb).

>>383731731
>zarya is bottom tier now
>chimpston is s tier
i stopped playing months ago wtf did they do

>>383735194
Dive. She's still better than rein or hog, though.

>>383735194
Zarya hasn't changed since her last nerf a long time ago. People just realized that defensive matrix is crazy overpowered and that the only answers to it are Zarya, Mei, and Sombra. Mei is inconsistent and crazy difficult to play at a high level, Sombra only recently entered the meta,and Zarya just doesn't have the tools to keep up with the hyper aggressive meta that's in right now.

When Doomfist launches he'll laugh at D.Va and Genji but he's countered by Tracer/Hitscan/Pharah/Hog/Sombra, and probably Zarya too so his impact on the meta will be limited at best. He even has trouble dealing with Lucio's vertical mobility because his uppercut doesn't actually punch things that are above you.

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>>383734838
I want Mei to freeze me too!

More like Mei has the weight of three stars.

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Why is that call of duty threads are forbidden on /v/ but normalfag casual garbage like overwatch gets a pass
I don's understand .

>>383736243
More characters to masturbate to.

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>>383736241
>implying that's a bad thing

>>383730605
Map design is definitely one of the biggest issues with Overwatch, I don't think the heroes and gunplay are that great either but they could have salvaged it with some decent level design.
You are forced to play specific characters that can use those side routes if you don't want to do the usual reinhardt staredown at the chokepoint every single game.

>>383736243

All those unique and cool looking characters that haven't made it into the game and will forever stay as concept art, yet Torbjorn has literally not changed one bit.

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>>383731731
I don't really care about the rankings, but I'm so glad that the douchebag Hanzo is at the bottom. His whole playstyle (1 shot every few seconds that either does nothing or immediately kills 400Hp heroes) is so rage-inducing.

Any word on if/when they'll nerf his 'simple geometry' thing where he shoots at your feet like an idiot and kills your whole team?

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>>383737646
That can never get properly balanced.

>>383737646
Only real way to balance it would be to remove and replace it with something else.
Any sort of damage nerf is going to make it underwhelming

>>383736501
>neck seam
amateur hour over here

>>383737125
>the 'not-pyro' was scraped for winston
rip

>>383729295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvuDwpzSfzM

>hmmm

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>>383739061
>montage video
I'm a Mei main but this doesn't mean anything

>>383737646
You gotta keep in mind that his basic arrows hit for 120 dmg. 2 of those kill any hero. Unless it oneshots the Scatter is literally worthless.

Keep in mind it wouldn't be garbage if you could actually pull off the epik simple geometry plays where you dink people behind cover, but the maps are just too random for that to work reliably. Blizzard should just rework it but that requires actual work and we all know they're allergic to effort.

>>383739061
>literal bronze players
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>>383731731
Game needs more heroes. How they thought they could have a competitive team based game with only 25 heroes is beyond me

>>383738851
Winston is in the same picture retard

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why are unavoidable AoE ultimates allowed?

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>>383740679
Which ones are unavoidable?

>>383736243
Go play dwarf fortress you fucking hipster.

>>383740773
Rein

>>383729295
less difficulty = easy to understand skills and dive into the game
more difficulty = harder to understand use of skills, and has initial skill cap

>>383740884
Don't stand in front of Rein when he has ult.

>>383731731
Inaccurate. I play Winston and Lucio nonstop and I'm garbage

>>383741174
Might as well stand in spawn forever

>>383734838
Is this by the fucking Nerf Now dude?

>>383741281
You shouldn't be near Rein as 90% of the cast to begin with.

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>>383741482
Not sure, sorry.

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>>383731731
>winston is top tier
>mccree, zarya, roadhog and mei are on tier 5
Jesus what the fuck have they done to this game? I haven't played it for like ages

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>>383741592
Wait fuck, not the Nerf Now dude. It's the latino guy who draws those spanish gamer girl comics

>>383741256
It's a tier list by usage, not if they're good or bad.

Mei being 3 star difficulty is correct. It's incredibly easy to accidentally fuck over your own team.

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>>383741845
I knew I saw the art style somewhere when I saved the image.

>>383740608
>tesla weapon
neck yourself

>>383741701
>McCree
no point in playing him ever since they changed Soldier's damage per shot from 17 to 20. Devs lowered it to 19 per shot and he's still better than McCree; McCree isn't mobile and is actually pretty mediocre at his job of flank busting
>Zarya
Needs a good start to actually do damage. Plus her ultimate charge rate is the slowest in the game. I still think she's a broken piece of shit, though.
>Roadhog
Doing the hook into one shot combo is MUCH more difficult now, like borderline unpractical. Plus, they changed his gun so that it has one more round and can shoot quicker, but lowered the damage of it by 33%
>Mei
Not mobile and can't really stop a team from diving. She can stall, and she's good vs. Dva, but that's about it.

>>383731731
The retards posting these pictures are always funny.

>>383741048
This
should have been the first post

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Wonder who the next hero is gonna be?

>>383729295

Those aren't really difficulty ratings, it's a glitch, it's amount of rage induced.

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>>383743376
I rage more at Sym's skinny ass.

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>>383734053
WHO DREW THIS

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>>383744476
Don't know. It's on Sankaku though.

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>>383731731
>Tracer and Winston who were the most powerful heroes in season 1 are still the most powerful heroes
>Tracer has literally never been touched
>Meanwhile Roadhog (Who wasn't even meta) got nerfed because "one-shot mechanics were unfun for our players"
>They don't even know what to do with him right now because his entire character's design was based off the one-shot mechanic so we will get some frankenstein of a hero that makes no sense
>Ironically enough the Roadhog nerf made him even more dependent on hook to be useful, because his teamfight damage is absolutely useless and he will passively lose you the game because his ult charge tradeoff heavily favors giving the enemy team more ults than his own
>Meanwhile Blizzard's newest hero has a one-shot ability with extremely long range and a 4 second cooldown
It really makes you think doesn't it

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>>383745407
They already nerfed Doomfist's rocket punch shit. Goes 20 instead of 30 meters.

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>>383745407
>theyre going to make Roadhog more tanky in their efforts to 'fix him'

Thats not what kind of tank he is he's not supposed to be on the front line soaking up damage.
Did the original designer for these characters get hit by a bus or something who is making these decisions.

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>>383745823
>McCree will remain shitty

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>9 heroes with 0% pickrate.
>12 heroes considered garbage / troll tier.
>Blizzard adding more new heroes anyway instead of fixing the current ones

nice game faggots

>>383729295
Mei should have 0 stars

>>383731731
What did they do to Winston? When I played a few months ago he was useless

>>383746968
His shield cooldown now starts when he uses it, rather than when the old one breaks.
That's fucking it.

>>383746968

His shield cooldown begins when he puts it down and not when it gets destroyed.

That's basically all they did to him specifically, however they nerfed Roadhog, who was one of Winston's biggest counters, and nerfs to Ana as well have lead to the dive meta being the big way of playing, which is where Winston shines.

>>383746457
>mccree has been continuously changed into uselessness ever since they wanted to move away from the stun and right click to melt people combo
>doomfist now does this but better and he becomes more tanky the more he does it
Why they nerfed mccree in the first place is beyond me. It wasn't even an issue really, yeah if you get stunned and killed it sucks but 9 times out of 10 if it happened you probably deserved it, and it's really no different from half the shit other characters can do anyway. Mccree had a good place, he was a tank buster which is sorely needed when tanks are so fucking strong and most comps for the longest time was 2 or more tanks.

>>383747292
>>383747374
Blizzard fucking sucks at balancing

>>383747552
>Why they nerfed mccree in the first place is beyond me

I think Blizzards excuse was both his long and short range killing power but like, he's an OFFENSE character, thats what he's supposed to do when going on offense. Nobody picks a weak offense character with bad killing potential

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>>383747552
Exactly. He was straight but they nerfed him too hard.

>>383747292
>>383747374
It's funny because that's exactly how it used to work, and is exactly what made winston so strong and why everyone picked him. Blizzard nerfed it and winston was pretty bad ever since, so their answer is to just revert the change making him as strong as he used to be. Mind blowing how stupid they are.

I can't believe they do this kind of shit and other shit like making doomfist a one shot hero while nerfing roadhog and mccree for being one shot heroes, and jeff still makes posts on the forums saying he is of the opinion the game is very balanced and that's why they only change heroes once in a blue moon. Despite every player worth a damn saying the opposite.

>>383729295
I'm literally uninterested in the game until Bastion and / or Junkrat are viable and have >50% pick rates in tournaments.

>>383729295
Did they fix Symmetra being stronger than offense heroes yet?

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>>383748418
Nope.