>Bethesda cities

>yo fucking talk shit on balmora or ald'ruhn one more time don pastrami i'll fucking throw away your naruto dvd collection

>>383728383
>Bethesda anything

>>383728383
let's see you do better, faggot!

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>>383729836
I like to think this is what Todd Howard wrote

>>383728383
someone post the skyrim cities

More like Bethesda engineering. You did not actually enter the city: this is just a collection of extremely long-distance models used exclusively for the world-map. There is nothing wrong about this, actually - you'd find even worse image if you somehow got to the same position related to say, New Vegas.
The failure here is that the game should have never let you seen the city from this particular perspective and distance anyway. Though it's also possible that you got yourself to this angle using mods or other means, in which case you really have no one to blame.

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>Bethesda still can't do ladders

>>383730221
>TES VI
>Bethesda still can't do ladders and vehicles

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>>383728383
I can confirm thats what fenway park looks like

that looks dope, when was lego fallout even released??

>>383728383
This isn't news, it's like this in every open world bethesda game. You can't render the outside world and the cities at once or it would be shit on performance

>>383730276
>bethesda does vehicles
>but because gamebyro is so shit and they're so bad at coding they just make the entire map move when you're in a vehicle instead of making proper physics or handling

>>383730276
Starfield will have flyable ships and a mech you will use for some planets.

>>383730502
To think these hacks want to do sci-fi RPG set in space

LMAO

>starship is static while texture of stars move

>>383728383
JESUS FUCK YOU STUPID AUTISTS. DIAMOND CITY IS NOT AN ACTUAL CITY. IT'S A FUCKING BASEBALL STADIUM. FENWAY PARK FOR YOU NON SPORTS FREAKS.

YOU EVER BEEN TO BOSTON? NO? FINE CAN YOU PICTURE A CITY WITH A STADIUM IN THE CENTER????/ COOL, NOW YOU ARE BARELKY FUNCTIONING.

NOW PICTURE THE STADIUM. PUT IT INTO AN ARE SURROUNDED BY OTHER FUCKING BUILDINGS. STARTS TO LOOK LOOK LIKE A CITY????? COOL. THAT IS CALLED BOSTON.

BOSTON (I.E. THE COMMONWEALTH) IS THE CITY. "DIAMOND CITY" IS JUST AN AREA WITHIN THE CITY????

INB4.... OOOOOH IT HAS BUIULDING HURHURHUR

YOU FUCKS TRIED THAT SHIT ON RIVET CITY ALSO/

THESE THAT YOU CALL CITIES ARE NOT COUNTIES. YOUR SCOPE IS TOO OFFPOINT BECAUSE YOU NEVER LEAVE THE FUCKING HOUSES.

]JESUS. SO WHAT. THE BETHESDA CITIES LOOKED WIERED WHENM OP ANON USES WIERD FUCKING EXPOLOIT TO MAEK STADIUM RENDER WRONG.

THAT GLITCH LASTED FOR WAT? ONE SECOND WHILE YOU COLLECT ALT+PRINTsCREEN? FUCK YOU.

STUPID NON-THREAD DELETE YOURSELF IRL.

>>383730502
I can see them pulling the train helmet thing again if they're ever going to implement vehicles in one of their game

>>383730651
lmao todd

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>>383730651
todd please youre scaring your children

>>383730651
Jesus Todd calm down, just be happy he's playing your game

>>383730657
When I learned about this I literally laughed out loud watching the video.

>>383730651

ffs Todd calm your tits and btw where is the GOTY/Ultimate/Complete/Whatever edition? You know, like with all dlcs and halfway working? You don't want me to pirate it, do you?

>>383731093
lol no buy the season pass separately

>>383730651
todd are you having an okay time buddy? we're here for you

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>>383728383
Find me someone that can say it doesn't JUST WORKS and I'll find you a liar.

>>383731179

getting really tired of your shit Todd

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>>383731456
>"But yes I was in the chess club."

>>383730651
Todd, I think you need to take a break from posting.

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I personally have Fallout 4 as my favourite game of all time.

After Skyrim remastered

To be replaced by TESVI of course ;)

>>383731994
Ah, yes, The Elder Scrolls VI: Skyrim 2

>>383731994
Wait a second, do I know you?

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Toddposting is getting REALLY old now

>>383728383
Fallout/elderscrolls games are only good if they're modded, that honestly makes them bad games imo

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>>383732159
>Todd has actually done this shit before

>>383730651
All I want is for someone to vocaroo this.

>>383730651
OKAY BUT EXPLAIN SKYRIM

>>383728383
Holy shit is that copy paste ground? Developers are so lazy nowadays. Just create 10 different grounds and make it seamless at the edge and randomize the ground generating

>>383730651
>THAT GLITCH LASTED FOR WAT? ONE SECOND WHILE YOU COLLECT ALT+PRINTsCREEN? FUCK YOU
kek its not even a glitch

>>383732070

I doubt that my friend, I'm just completely average guy that love The Elder Scrolls series and Fallout duology

I own 3 copies of every title and so should you ;)

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>we're at the point where mainstream publishers/developers like bethesda don't have to improve in any way at all in terms of writing, technology, programming, gameplay, art or game design, sound design or anything really because they know that they will sell millions of copies just on the brand name alone and that mindless consumer "gamers" will just suck down that second hand lukewarm shot of mediocrity every time and that they can charge the game's original price many times over for cut content """"expansions"""" and graphical improvements that are larger than the base game and still look worse than a 50mb mod made by some autistic skeleton in his parents' basement on a sunday

How is it that ghoul population numbers are still so high despite it being over 200 years since the bombs fell and it being standard practice to shoot any feral ones on sight? It's not like ghouls are zombies that reproduce via biting.

>>383733015
Because it hasn't been 200 years of shooting ghouls on sight. Civilization is just starting to rebuild itself.

>>383733015
you can become a ghoul by being "lucky" enough, though.

As for the sheer amount of feral ghouls sleeping in subway tunnels, Bethesda is lazy.

>>383730221
Give me one (1) reason why a game NEEDS ladders.

>>383732976
I'm gonna need that source

>>383733269
To get from a low place to a high place easier and vice versa?

>>383733269
Yea, yea, we know. Games for console doesn't need ladders, there are no ups or down, the controller doesn't handle well verticallitie, especially in a multiplayer game. Thanks good you have auto aim

>>383733269
we don't float like you disgusting pigeon.

>>383730651
CITY IS NOT A CITY

>>383733269
Verticle gameplay, traversing the city walls, but i guess you don't need that seeing as everything is in its own cell and if you look over the wall its just a fucking mess.

what are some rpgs with actual cities in them and more than 15 npcs there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsKQzOARUs

>>383734114
Witcher 3 ? ME:A ?

>>383733804
You don't need ladders for that.
>>383733857
>>383733923
Not a reason.
>>383734072
Fallout 4 managed verticality well enough without ladders.

>>383734335
Sure you don't need ladders but it says something if you're still using the same 15 year old engine that can't handle ladders.

>>383734114
Xenogears
Trails in the sky
Botw

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>>383734192
>mfw the era of Peteposting begins

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>>383730651

>>383733269
Your games are shit, Todd

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>>383733367
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=61231994

>>383734494
>15 year old engine that can't handle ladder
It can though.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61824/?

How do you go from Morrowind to Skyrim?

>>383732159
>redguard was a financial failure

I really just want a story rich adventure that adds new lore to TES games. The gameplay in redguard was shit but most other parts were pretty good, they did a good job making tamriel feel a lot more alive than any of the recent titles

>>383734746
Well that was a hell of a shift in tone.

>>383734927
Walk West.

>>383730651
Todd please calm down

>>383732159
>97

Gmail, and most of the internet, wasn't even around back then. Is this shopped?

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>>383735334

>>383734764
Further proof that Bethesda is run by a skeleton crew of intern programmers who have no idea what they're doing but are given responsibility of a decades outdated game engine and are told to build a AAA title with it.

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>>383735115
Welcome to Doppel

>>383728383
>Bethesda cities
>Bethesda writing
>Bethesda voice acting
>Bethesda bug testing
>Bethesda gameplay
>Bethesda graphics
Literally the only thing going for Bethesda is that it makes the type of games (IE heavily mod-able open RPGs) they make other developers don't really bother with. They're competing with themselves for that type of game.

>>383730585

Isn't that from futurama? The ship doesn't move, the universe does?

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>>383730651
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VAPwvjieo9

>>383728598
Balmora and Ald'ruhn are cities larger than any in any Bethesda game since sans the Imperial City (unless you count each district as a separate city) that aren't instanced, in a game from over 15 years ago, that was Bethesda's first 3D game.
So yeah, you can't really shit talk Morrowind cities to defend Oblivion or Skyrim's when Oblivion and Skyrim have regressed from those cities in spite of better hardware.

>>383735619
KEK

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>>383735619
you're pretty good

>>383730221
>>383733269
>a new vegas mod could do ladders even without full access to the game's code
TODD BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSPYfFalzHw

>>383730651
What about skyrim fag why were the cities even smaller than oblivions

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>there are more bandits between Helgen and Whiterun than there are citizens in all cities combined

>>383730651
Todd, you are frightening your wife's son - her boyfriend will not be happy about this.

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If Bobby Doerr's, Joe Cronin's, and Johnny Pesky's numbers are retired(The latter of which was retired in 2008) why isn't Ted Williams', Carl Yastremski's, or Carlton Fisk's numbers retired?
And more importantly who are these four people whose numbers were retired?

>>383737445
lol look at this NERD that cares about logical world building

>>383735619
quality

>>383737503
B-but Ted William's and Joe Cronin's numbers were retired on the same day.

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>>383735334
>Gmail, and most of the internet, wasn't even around back then

>>383735619
OP here, thanks a lot

>>383737445
Nice one dream boy.

Nice Bait. Let's see Obsidian do better...

Oh wait... they can't

>>383728383
Now post Botw "cities"

>>383730657
They already had working train with no hat bullshit in fo4 nuka dlcs but since u are Bethesda hater you won't know that.

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>>383730745
>>383730801
>>383730848
>>383731431
>>383731559
>>383731813
>>383734682
>>383735248
Now I know some of you fags are samefagging to save a dying meme.

>>383739427
hmm sorry not really. plus i like both todd's fallouts and nv. so go choke faggot

>>383739427
>implying anyone liked fallout4
kek
It's only good as a mediocre autism sim.

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>>383728383
>Meanwhile in a game made between squatting sessions by a bunch of potato peel vodka fueled slavs

>>383739427
not even reddit likes fo4

>>383739690
I liked Fallout 4, it was atmospheric FPS. With mods it was even good to build cities.

>>383739427
i enjoyed every single fallout so far (each to different degrees, but enjoyed nonetheless) and i still think you're being a faggot

>>383739729
stuff like this and Athkatla makes me think having one big, more believable city in a game is much better than having dozens of shit villages.

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>>383739427
this what a bunch of fucking losers also buy bethesda games praise todd

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>>383737445
>>383738975
Ted William's is confirmed for existing too. The red seat is where he hit the longest home run in Fenway park.

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>>383739427
>Samefagging
Kek how new are you todd?

>>383732815
It's the placeholders for the ground and buildings in diamond city for when you're out in the overworld.

You aren't supposed to be able to get high enough to see it from the outside.

>>383728383

yeah it's fucking awful, I'm not even going to bother with fallout 5

from daggerfall to half a baseball field

>>383730154
>standing in front of Diamond City in power armor
>jet pack straight up
>see this

>>383740260
This, I don't get retards who say "you're not supposed to see this"

Literally jetpack on any nearby building and keep flying above spamming quantums.

>>383739729
>99.0% un-enterable and non interactive buildings

might as well be invisible walls

>>383739930
4 without mods is garbage

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>>383739930
>it was atmospheric

>>383735547
Doppel's works have destroyed my dick several times over
Man is way too good at what he does

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>>383740442
FUCK YOU!!!!!

>>383740374
>Literally jetpack on any nearby building and keep flying above spamming quantums.
So you have to fuck around game mechanics to see this? Wow, it's like it's not supposed to be seen under normal gameplay circumstances!

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>>383735334
>Gmail, and most of the internet, wasn't even around back then. Is this shopped?

>>383740412
>99.0% un-enterable and non interactive buildings
Wrong.

>>383740543
>explore surroundings
>fly to any building
>keep flying upwards

What's so fucking complicated

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>>383740442
>saves images just to shitpost about a single game that came out nearly a decade ago on his favourite korean basket weaving forum

Imagine being this guy

>>383735720
>the Imperial City

To do the Imperial City in all its lore glory would probably require it being the map for an entire game, like an Assassin's Creed city.

>>383739909
But reddit LOVES new vegas, which is where all the NVFags come from

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>>383740530
FUCK YOU

>>383739994
>and I still think-
I really don't care what you think though.

>>383740671
>spamming ap restores to go straight up into nothing to explore to see unrendered zones to have tantrums over on norwegian bottle-painting blogs

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>>383730651
>THESE THAT YOU CALL CITIES ARE NOT COUNTIES. YOUR SCOPE IS TOO OFFPOINT BECAUSE YOU NEVER LEAVE THE FUCKING HOUSES.

What did he mean by this?

>>383740089
Clearly not as new as you. Todd posting and calling others newfags is basically a dead give away

>>383740885
>he thinks anyone cares about what he thinks

cute. Even your father abandoned you

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>>383739383
Shut up todd

>>383735720
>that was Bethesda's first 3D game.

Are you retarded?

>>383730657
>FO5
>Get in car
>It unequips my hat
wtf

>>383741096
well, Arena and Daggerfall both had cities bigger than Skyrim and Fallout 3/4, so the point still stands

>>383740724
Imagine being the guy who gets triggered by a nearly decade old image because it points out the same argument is still being used to defend a game nearly 10 years later on said korean basket weaving forum

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>>383741005
>that projection

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>>383730651

>>383735619
Cool voice bruh

>>383741096
Daggerfall was sprite-based and randomly generated. Morrowind was fully 3D and handmade.

>>383740986
I think the gist of what he's saying is that Diamond City isn't a city (even though it is) because it's in the City of Boston (even though Boston is entirely uninhabited ruins and the only people living there besides squatters are the people in Diamond City), and that Boston is the full city (even though other than Diamond City it's empty). He then means that people think Diamond City is the full city because they never leave the house to know what a real city looks like as a fallacious argument to divert attention from the fact that the rest of Boston is barren.

>>383741163
>imagine thinking people actually care about a decade old game

I couldnt care less about fallout or bethesda but your autism is amusing. Sorry youre triggered 10 years after the fact

>>383735619
Perfect, anon.

>>383741280
Daggerfall's engine was full 3D. Using sprites for some things isn't what differentiates full 3D and psuedo-3D, otherwise Super Mario 64 wouldn't even be considered full 3D.

And besides, Bethesda also made Redguard Adventures.

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>>383740938
WOOOOOW EXPLOITED GAME MECHANICS!

Next time simply put more effort into your game Todd.

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>>383730651

>>383741518
>I couldnt care less about fallout or bethesda but your autism is amusing

Imagine being this triggered by a decade old image you cry autism because it makes fun of people making the same autistic argument 10 years later.

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>>383741761
>needing to cheat in a fallout game

I bet youre 13

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>>383742024
Dude what the fuck are you talking about

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>>383742003
>tfw still getting triggered a decade later
>yfw you project other people thoughts to justify your autism

>>383741761
I'm not sure where you got the idea that I gave a shit about the game, but fuck, anon, you're really really stretching the idea of "normal" gameplay.

Normal gameplay is not spamming recovery items to get to places you aren't supposed to go.

Also do you really want more rendering in this fuck awfully optimized game, especially for things you aren't going to see unless you go out of the way to do so?

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>>383742072
>implying you dont use commands to add items to your shitty playthrough

>>383742024
that's not cheating at all
he doesn't even need to chug the nuka cola

cities in Arena and Daggerfall were real life sized.

>>383742238
>i have no idea what Im talking about

It shows anon

>>383742206
Just stop fucking responding to me you faggot retard shitpussy, you literally lost you gay shill.

>>383742206
The game encourages you to use jetpack though, there are even scattered items on rooftops, especially around diamond city. I am saying it could've been done better.

>>383730651
little man syndrome right here

>>383742315
But I've done that myself, at least I think.
The game has some neat shit built around using the jetpack, and it really isn't acceptable that they're that lazy.

>>383742206
>"huh i wonder if i can get up there"
>quicksave
>use up a bunch of stuff to get up there
>"wow i guess you can get up here"
>load
>continue on my way

i do this shit all the time in games come on man

>>383742130
Only one of us is getting triggered by something from 10 years ago and projecting over it

>>383741761
you can also use psychojet and such to get longer duration on your jetpack.

I managed to jetpack from the Prydwen all the way to the minutemen's Fort. Not sure why I bothered, but there you go.

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>>383740530
Is this the acclaimed Todd Mod?

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>>383742349
>you lost
>he thinks shitposting on a taiwanese comic book forum is a competition

SUMMER
U
M
M
E
R

>>383742683
do you have the one where he's in the guy's pocket?

>>383742315
What the fuck are you talking about you actual fucking retard? There is no cheating in that webm.

>>383740725
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/19589/?

>>383730651
What did he mean by this?

>>383742391
>I am saying it could've been done better.
and I am saying that using placeholders for objects you aren't supposed to see in normal circumstances is important so you aren't wasting resources rendering things you can't see.

>>383742559
>admitting youre triggered and projecting

I already told you I couldnt care less. You dont need to explain how your autism works friend. Just let it go and maybe try playing a video game or something to relax

>>383742349
>you literally lost
everyone posting on this site has lost

>>383736410
It's not about ladders you brainlet, it's about the AI path finding

>>383742815
sure thing toddums

>>383730502
I mean if everything except the vehicle is moving, isn't it just the vehicle that is technically moving?

>>383742815
lol you're ai is so bad you cant program it too find ladder's????? LOOOOOOL

>>383742870
it's both, it's just a matter of perspective

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>>383742706
Yes

>>383742919
>you're
>????? LOOOOOOL

Fuck off back to steam forums/reddit, will you?

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>>383735334

Is in this thread any actual Bethesda employee? Sure looks like it.

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>>383742235
>>383742206
HE USED TWO OR THREE NUKA COLAS! THIS IS NOT NORMAL GAME PLAY! THIS IS HIGHLY MODDED SO IT DOESN'T COUNT! I'M NOT THE AUTIST, YOU ARE!

Fallout 4 ruined my hopes for any decent sequels for either elder scrolls or fallout

>>383743149
maybe but it definitely has 2 children. The IP count didnt even change you stupid newfag

>>383735334
Things existed before you were born, anon

>>383743246
I never said any of that though my triggered little cub. I merely pointed out the fact he/you are a shitty casual that needs console commands to cheat in items on the easiest game of 2015

>>383742791
>admitting youre functionally illiterate

You cared enough to continue replying and shitposting over it, all because you got triggered by a 10 year old image. But keep getting mad and projecting your autism friend.

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>Bethesda asses

>>383743246
Do you have any idea what "normal" means?

Jesus fuck anon, you're having a stroke over the fact that someone skirted around what was deemed normal and someone points this out.

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>>383743434
Only console """command""" I ever used was 'tm' for aesthethic screenshots

>>383743535
I told you you lost little shitpussy, now shut the fuck up and go cry to you're mommy.

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>>383743456
>If I keep saying youre triggered it means youre triggered

nice try baby bear

>>383743710
You clearly are triggered though.

>>383743679
How the fuck did you get that HIGH?

Fucking cheater hacker autist! You weren't supposed to see this town from this perspective!

>>383730651
>>383735619
>when /v/ has just become one big hub for comedians and their meta-humor
I like it

>>383743781
Well, you can count the houses even when you're not flying

>>383743885
b-b-but you weren't supposed to see Solitude from this perspective it's clearly ruining the illusion of the city's size!!

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>>383743771
>you clearly are triggered though
>thats why I cant let this go
>because its totally not me the guy who saves images to shitpost about decade old games thats triggered
>thats totally normal behaviour

>>383743949
Except it doesn't
In Imperial City you can see houses everywhere you look
90% of solitude is empty or filled with useless objects so you wouldn't notice how empty it is

>>383743771
>>383743960
Both of you are triggered faggots either way.

>>383743960
>>thats why I cant let this go
Yeah you can't. That's why you're still responding to insist you don't care while going apeshit over someone reposting an old image making fun of bethesda fans.

>>383743781
>>383743949

>using a point from a completely different argument in some pathetic attempt to demerit both
Dam son, you the autism.

>>383744249
>2000 Creation Club points have been deposited into your Bethesda.net account

Which fallout game had the best cities

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>>383744146
>youre going apeshit

calling you out for your autism is going apeshit?

>>383744249
Not him but
>failling for a low-quality bait

hownew.ru

>>383744324
Nice try, but I don't have one.

>>383744372
It's definitely gonna be one of the isometric ones. No shitty 3d open world constraints.

Guys please stop, I have migraine and I can't laugh.

>>383744435
>If I keep saying youre autistic it means youre autistic
Going on an on for nearly an hour calling someone autistic because you got triggered by a reposted image is yeah. Why can't you let it go?

>>383744548
lol no def new vegas

>>383744548
Isometric Fallouts had some cool ideas but the execution falls short. Boston has only one major hub and that's Diamond City, which isn't really good. New Vegas had meh cities (if you can call it cities)

Probably Fallout 3, Rivet City was pretty good concept. Megaton is shit... hard to decide. All Fallout games have kinda shitty cities.

>>383740442
>>383740724
>>383741163
>>383741518
>>383742003
>>383742130
>>383742559
>>383742791
>>383742791
>>383743456
>>383743710
>>383743771
>>383743960
>>383744146
>>383744435
>>383744606
this is what you retards have been doing for the past hour

I hope both of you take a good hard look at your lives

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>>383744249
>/v/ is so retarded they can't pick up on sarcasm and humor

>>383744032
it's called SOLITUDE for a reason, dumbass!!
it's SUPPOSED to be empty! that's GENIUS world design there!!

>>383745487
BRAVO HOWARD

>>383745137
Chain of autism started here >>383740442

As you can see, Anti-betheshills started it all, like usual. They are always the ones who tried to start shit first by shitting on Fallout 4.

>>383734114

Dragons Dogma

>>383740794
>hurr durr site I dont like likes game
>that means that EVERYONE that likes the game is from there

>>383745665
im the other guy and Ill shit on fallout 4 too. But this whole NV>FO3 shit is a 7 year old dead meme.

If you actually care about this kind of shit then you truly are autistic

FNV>FO4>FO3

Objectively right

>A city is bad if you can't interact with 100% of the environment
Fuck off with that shit. I'd rather have a huge town with hundreds of meaningless buildings and nameless NPCs instead of a "City" consisting of 11 buildings you can enter and 15 NPCs you can have conversations with. You retards pull the same kind of stupid shit when (god forbid) there's 20 feet of empty space between two points of interest. Empty space is fine, makes the world seem larger instead of there being a cave or dungeon or statue or bandit camp or some other bullshit distraction every thirty seconds.

>>383728383
>>383728598


Back in Morrowind it was forgivable, one because it was an island backwater, and two because of the technology at the time. But they never made them any bigger in Oblivion or Skyrim. Hell, look at some of the cities the TR team put into Morrowind. And then look at some of the excuses for 'cities' in Skyrim. Morthal is literally just a handful of buildings in the wilderness.

The only excuse is that their shitty engine can't handle large areas, to a pretty ridiculous degree, I mean, they broke the Strip in FNV up into three different cells. Which begs the question why are they still using it.

>>383742206
>Game literally hands you power armor that can be modified with a jetpack.
>Gives you a city where enemies exist on multiple vertical levels including raised bridges, roads, and rooftops.
>Flying from roof to roof isn't normal gameplay.

You're fucking retarded.

>>383741190
Daybreakm's joltik

>>383746056
I think both styles have their place. In a game like Witcher 3, where it's very story and character focused, the big city works as set dressing. The nameless NPCs are like extras in a play. They're just there to sell the scene and it's not really important if you can interact with them.

Elder Scrolls is more about interacting with the world and emergent gameplay. If you're playing a thief, for example, it's important that you can rob npcs and houses.

>>383746206
To be fair, Morrowind's cities weren't full of NPCs with routines and active pathfinding.

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>>383728383
Step 1: Shut the fuck up.
Step 2: Acquire Bethesda Bucks
Step 3: Get some free mods and stop crying like a bitch over nothing when you're playing the best RPG ever made.

>>383739729
Literally less to do than your average Bethesda game village. What's the fucking point.

>>383746001
This whole "Fallout 4 is bad" is a meme. You're the one who is truly autistic if you actually think Fallout 4 wasn't atmospheric as fuck

>>383747487
I played it for about 600 hours. Doesnt mean its a good game. Its a half decent shooter with great waifu mods but it fails as an RPG in my opinion.

Youre allowed to praise it until the day you die but I still think it could have been better and its flaws as an RPG greatly outweigh the pros of the shooting aspects

>>383730651
Not a glitch. LOD view from the outside.
And there's not excuse for not making it more crowded with more housing. 80% of the stands were left empty. If they'd used some of the vertical housing they showed on the 20% that wasn't on the rest of the stands, it would go a long way towards making it feel more like a city or community rather then a temporary shelter.

>>383747487
Is that atmosphere called being boring and shitty?

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>>383735619

>>383742206
You could've got there just fine without the use of those items, it was just to save time so he didn't have a 2+ minute long webm waiting for the AP to refill, faglord.

>>383743535
>guy uses restorative items instead of waiting 8 seconds for regen so that the webm is short enough to post
>OMG CHEATER!!!1!!!

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>>383735619

10/10 lad

>Starfield cities are just 2 bases on planet, greenhouse and starship hangar

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>>383742683
Tood must be really jealous of Josh, Josh is superior in every way.

>>383730651
lol u mad

>>383735334
How does it feel to be retarded

>>383745957
Misusing green text, liking NV, adding hurr durr to the beginning of a sentence....?

Hello Rebbit

>>383747625
>I played it for about 600 hours. Doesnt mean its a good game.
Yes it does. If it was a truly bad game you wouldn't have played it that long. It's a great shooter and RPG.

>>383747686
>being this autistic

>>383749487
Honestly I sunk 300 hours into it and I don't even know why. I wasn't interested in the characters or the world, I just kept on building shit.

>>383749487
>if you dont lick the devs asshole and p[raise the game until the day you die it means you think its a bad game

ABSOLUTE
B
S
O
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U
T
E

>>383735619
I like your voice anon

>>383749487
>If it was a truly bad game you wouldn't have played it that long.
>one of those retards
Neck yourself faggot, seriously.

Also, it's mediocre as fuck shooter and an absolutely terrible RPG.
It's a good autism sim, that's fucking it.

>>383749487
>Yes it does. If it was a truly bad game you wouldn't have played it that long.
I've lived for 24 years and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone
-some anon

>>383730651
>the absolute state of bethesdrones

>>383749487
>anon plays game for 600 hours and critics good and bad points
>YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ANYTHING YOU THINK ITS A GREAT GAME

literally what? If someone put 600 hours in Id take their criticism as valid over your flagrant fanboyism you dumb faggot. Try looking at the game objectively

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>>383733269
They are one of the least awkward solutions to Bethesda's new focus on verticality seen mostly in the urban areas. So far, the list of solutions consists of improbably placed ramps, the need to go up into a building first that might as well be a complicated ramp and the latest solution of vertical and horizontally mobile gondolas which bug out and don't work as well as ramps. The least awkward solution to that verticality would be to remove it or give the player a jetpack as early as Fallout 4 gives the player power armour.

Like a lot of things in Fallout 4 (like the voiced protagonist) and modern games in general, Bethesda mistook a design choice supported by other carefully curated design choices as a standard capable of delivering good gameplay on its own.

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>>383732159
>part rpg but not that much
>the lines are blurring on rpgs
>redguard is not an rpg but a total mix
reading todd's old posts explains a lot. he only ever wanted to make action games with minimal roleplaying but was stuck in a company known for rpgs.

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>>383749667
Thanks.

>>383728383
>and now, the battle for the realm of Skyrim
>an epic Civil War that will decide the fate for all

>12 fucking characters total on screen
Why write something you obviously can't make happen into your shitty game?

>>383747019
To be fair, neither are Skyrim's.

>>383747019
No, and the graphics weren't as intensive either. But if they were determined, there's nothing wrong with taking a few shortcuts to get around this for the sake of presenting a larger city. Spawning generic, unnamed NPC's without schedules is a perfectly acceptable way of making the city feel like it has a larger population then it actually does, one that gets used quite a lot in modding. Breaking it up into districts works well as well, so long as it's not an example like the Strip where it was quite clearly not designed that way, and so long as there is some visual differences between those districts so we don't end up with something like the Imperial City from Oblivion or Mournhold from Tribunal where every district looks the same until you really get to know them. And designing the cities overall with such limitations in mind or giving plausible excuses for their size is fine as well.

>Fallout 4 is a le shit game!!!!

Just shut the fuck up, it was an 8/10 game at best, 6/10 game at worst. It wasn't shit, just lackluster and was perfectly enjoyable for a few playthroughs.

>>383751418
it was a 7/10 at best and worst. the only people saying it was super shit beyond redemption are the same people still shitting on FO3 10 years later

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>>383751418
>>383751685

>>383751418
It's shit bruv

>Fallout 4
8/10 game
2/10 Fallout

>Fallout 3
5/10 game
7/10 Fallout

>Fallout NV
4/10 game
9/10 Fallout

>>383751685

Except FO3 WAS shit and STILL IS shit. F:NV is the objectively best game in the modern Fallout franchise.

>>383752018
did I say it wasnt shit? You should seek medical help friend

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>>383751962
>>Fallout 4
>8/10 game

>>383751962
>4/10 game
>Fallout 3 better than NV

Literally how? NV does everything 3 does but better.

>>383728383
i don't understand why vertibirds that taxi you around even have the option to fire a minigun. it's not like you can see anything anyway. except for cars spawning where bridges are supposed to be and falling.

>>383730885
Link to the video?

hol'up, please still believe the starfield meme ?

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As an average black gamer aged 17-32, i think Bethesda does an amazing job any time they make a new video game. I really couldn't wait to purchase all of the DLC for Fallout 4. That season pass was such a great deal, i can't recommend it enough!

>>383752183
Because New Vegas is buggier, and a more excrutiatingly un-fun experience.

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>>383752293
>le subjective opinion

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The Xbox 360 and its whopping 512 megs of ram shit all over the potential of everything that needed to work on it during that period. So many games could have gone so much farther if they didn't need to accommodate it. Oblivion is textbook. And the current generation is already starting to fall behind and sludge shit up, though not as egregiously as the 360.

I actually like Todd and his games. Why is /v/ so triggered by that?

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Hello General, another video game needs your pre-order!

Here, I will add it into your cart

>>383730651
i hear you bro
it's just some shacks in a sports arena, boston is the city

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>>383752520
same

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>>383752594
>>383752292
Shut the fuck up Toddy boy

>>383728383

that's also the only city in the game

pretty shocking!

>>383752520
>>383752520
It's a well known fact that /v/ is tsundere for Todd and his games.

/sci/fag here
what would you say is the neurological appeal to Bethesda's open world style? Think about your answer.

I know the engine just straight up can't handle it, but I wish Bethesda made a game where the world is small and dense instead of large and open. Give me one city that's jam-packed with interconnected quests, NPCs, and locations. Imagine something like Haven City from Jak II, but in Tamriel and running on modern tech.

>>383753648
Will we ever get a video game where city hub is big as entire Skyrim map?

Daggerfall was the last good Bethesda game

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I remember climbing into Megaton over the gate. It looked very similar to >>383728383
I only got there once and was never able to get there again though.

The guy on top of the gate just said something like "How did you get up here?".

>>383753754
I like to imagine that there will be one in my lifetime, maybe 30 years from now. I can't imagine something so large being well-crafted though because at some point it would take so many writers and scripters that it just wouldn't be economical to do even if it was technically possible.

>>383735720
Anon, Imperial City is made up of over 400 cells.
Balmor is only made up of 51 cells.
Take off your fucking nostalgia glasses and fucking stop meming about how "Imperial City is totes too small and Morrowind tots has bigger cities" because anyone can boot up those game 's construction kits and find out for themselves that Morrowind is nowhere near as big as you remember it to be.

>>383730502
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45809/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/49042/?
These were done in Gamebryo engine. Bethesda just doesn't want to try. They are shitters. They've reached the point where all they have to do is hype their repetitive garbage and sell a fuckton of merch for it and they win.

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>>383752293
>More "un-fun"
>Has more players
lol

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>Fallout fan
>Hate Elder Scrolls
>Next Bethesda game is Elder scrolls

>>383754924
Have fun having the worst fucking fanbase on /v/.

>>383752185
As with everything about the game, it seems half-baked and unfinished. Vertibird Overhaul patches in a fiddly but playable way to issue basic commands - fly in this direction, hover, ect, which suddenly gave those guns a lot of functionality for me.

>mods making it better doesn't make it a good game because they shouldn't be expecting modders to finish the game for them.

Absolutely right. Part of what's so frustrating about it is that it's filled with hundreds of little examples like this where a very simple mod that could easily and should have been a part of the base game turns something useless, redundant, or unusable into a really good addition. Question I constantly find myself asking almost every time I install a mod is 'Why wasn't this feature part of the base game?'

>>383755015
Next Bethesda game is Starfield dummie.

>>383754924
mconald's is the best fast food restaurant by your logic.

>>383755091
Never confirmed

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>>383735619

>>383755126
>before another Elder Scrolls we're working on another two entirely new games

>>383755015
Don't worry bro, they'll outsource the next FO to Obsidian again, so they'll be worked on simultaneously haha oh god it's going to be like 10 more years til the next FO isn't it

>>383755106
fucking third worlders think they can into english.

By his logic mcdonalds would be the most 'fun' fast food restaurant

>>383755180
Almost seems like Bethesda are giving up on the big RPG's and just doing shit like doom because a small, linear shooter takes a hell of a lot less time and effort to make and they can sell it for the exact same price.

>>383755247
neck yourself

>>383754589
>literally LITERALLY state that the only exception is the IC
>B-B-BUT MUH IC

>>383755271
Not him but how many foreign languages do you speak?

>>383755271
>By his logic mcdonalds would be the most 'fun' fast food restaurant
Can't beat the McDonalds ball pits.

>>383755326
Bethesda didn't make DOOM for fuck sake, they're not only developer but also publisher.

ID Soft did DOOM. Arkane did Dishonored and PREY, Machine games did Wolfenstein, some random studio with some well known japanese guy did Evil Within - Bethesda just published those games.

>>383755364
none. Thats why I dont go on french websites and pretend I know wtf is going on

>>383755326
beth studio =/= beth publisher
both are under zenimax but are functionally seperate

>>383755498
Well then perhaps you should shut the fuck up and appreciate the effort? If you can understand his point, there's no need to dwell on grammar, it's not fucking essay.

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>>383728383
>vs daggerfall

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>>383755601
>grammar.

(you) twisted his words because you dont understand english you stupid nigger

>>383755753
Tie the noose and I'll kick the chair for you.

>>383755489
You're a fucking idiot if you think Bethesda Publishing and BGS are the same people.

>>383753647
daddy molested me so I like games where I can be a pixie elf princess and everyone has to do what i say

>>383755832
Yeah? My dad works for Bethesda you stupid chink I know practically everything

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>>383755809
>being this visibly upset on your favourite korean basket weaving forum

Its ok youll get aids and die soon enough. Enjoy living to 30

>>383755928
To get AIDS I'd have to get laid first and I have no intention to have sex with your mother.

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>>383756005
>mommy jokes

you tried

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>>383755912

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>>383756132
Nice filename mong, got that one from imgur?

>>383730154
Why do you have to "enter" cities in the first place? NPC tracking too much for the game to handle, or physics would be insane.

>>383742763
Lmao this doesn't do the city justice at all.

>>383755015
Fallout MMO when?

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>>383756196
made it myself my young friend

>not knowing what filenames from different websites look like

you know how I know youre under 15? Sorry you got triggered by me calling out your broken english son but I dont give a single fuck about you. Have the last shitpost if it will appease your autism I couldnt care less

>>383756402
>still replying to wrong person

I literally said "not him" with my first reply. Also not cool to project your age here, mods don't take kindly to underages.

>>383730651
>"DIAMOND CITY" IS JUST AN AREA WITHIN THE CITY
really jogs the noggin

>>383755357
>You can't shit talk Morrowind cities to defend Oblivion
>Meanwhile Oblivion's cities are actually around the same size as Morrowind's largest city
Yeah sure thing buddy.

>>383755048
>>383755106
If it wasn't fun no one would be playing it, you retarded FO3 babbies.

>>383741109
IT'LL BE GTA 4 AND 5 ALL OVER AGAIN

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>>383749625
>I sunk 300 hours into it and I don't even know why.
Because it's a legitimately good game, you just can't accept it because you fell for the /v/ meme

>>383749652
>>383749705
>>383749743
Fuck off and neck yourselves you meme loving fucks.

I could understand if you played for an hour or two and didn't like it but if you play a game for SIX HUNDRED HOURS it was obviously good. You can't say it was bad after you played it for that long.

>>383750030
>shitposting
>objective criticism
Choose one.
There is no such thing as objectivity with opinions, the closest thing to being objective is game sales. And Fallout 4 sold extremely well which matters more than your meme opinions on a a taiwanese basket weaving forum

>>383751418
Fucking THIS.

Fallout 4 is a 8/10 at WORST and /v/ is just too autistic to enjoy good games because of memes told them it was bad

>>383752520
/v/ is triggered by good games that are popular. It's been like this with every good game that's come out since SWTOR. It happened with Overwatch, DmC and Horizion. /v/ just can't stand popular games being good and successful

>>383757217
>I could understand if you played for an hour or two and didn't like it but if you play a game for SIX HUNDRED HOURS it was obviously good. You can't say it was bad after you played it for that long.
Again, you're retarded and should seriously commit suicide.
I have like 4000 hours in runescape and I don't think it's the best thing in the universe.
Faggots like you are one of the biggest cancers killing video games.

>>383757217
>cries about other peoples subjective opinions
>gives his own subjective opinions thinking anyone gives a single fuck
>projection
>projection
>projection

you sure changed my mind with those hot opinions anon san

>>383752018
This post is the epitome of NVfags earning their reputation as fat bitter pretentious cunts.

>>383757217
Im the guy thats played over 600 hours and my criticisms are far more valid than your "it sold well so its a great game" Go play the latest installment of COD seeing as its clearly the best game in the entire world

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>>383757217

>>383757658
>Go play that popular game!

You realized you just described what he was describing, right?

>>383757217
>I have like 4000 hours in runescape and I don't think it's the best thing in the universe.
It was obviously good enough for you to play for FOUR THOUSAND HOURS it's obviously a game you liked and not a bad game
Otherwise you're just autistic.

>>383757480
>projecting other people thoughts to justify your autism

All opinions are subjective you autistic. The fact is Fallout 4 is a successful game, and sales matter more than opinions.

These responses are the epitome of NVfags earning their reputation as fat bitter pretentious cunts and the biggest cancers killing video games

>>383757658
>and my criticisms are far more valid
Like what? You didn't make a single coherent point.

>>383758101
It's a game I enjoyed but I don't consider it perfect and free of criticism. Just because you find something "fun" doesn't make it automatically good.
Nor does it being popular had you any knowledge of marketing or psychology.
Which has no bearing on fallout4 considering it's the weakest recieved out of all the beth fallouts.

Don't tell me what I think shit taste normalfag.

>>383757997
>COD outsells every other videogame therefore its the best videogame ever created

See how fucking stupid you are

>>383758101
never projected at all. Just pointed out you projecting onto other posters like how youre projecting about NV fags in this post. I havent uttered the words 'new vegas' since around 2013

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>>383758303
>Just because you find something "fun" doesn't make it automatically good

>>383758372
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that statement.
For example, with friends, literally anything, even work is fun.
And you can also have fun playing with sticks or daydreaming.
Are these things better than vidya?
No, they are not.

>>383758358
Nothing I said was projecting. You dont need to explain how your autism works friend. Just let it go and maybe try playing a video game or something to relax

>>383758358
>See how fucking stupid you are
Well no, because that's just a strawman. COD is a successful game, just because a bunch of /v/ hipsters said it was bad doesn't change that.