LawBreakers not coming to swiitch due to lack of button

>>383727094
Who?

something something nothing of value yadda yadda yadda

>>383727176
an overwatch clone that will be forgotten a week after it releases.

What buttons does the PS4 have over the Switch?
Also, it sounds like an attempt to make his game more deep and complex when it really probably just has retarded unnecessary controls. CliffyB is a known faggot in video games these days.

The Switch actually has more buttons than the PS4 controller. It should actually be illegal to be this retarded.

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How long do you think it'll be until we get a hardcore game for the switch that requires holding both joycons seperately so you can use the buttons on the side?

>>383728146
Some version of armored core??

>>383728146
I can see myself accidentally pressing those buttons a lot with the straps on.

>>383727094
>play on the same field ofnnintendo games

> sharing the spotlight with literally two games

Switch owners are this desperate for something to play

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he forgot to mention that the switch's motion control in inferior to xbone and ps4.

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????????????
I don't even own a PS4 or Switch, I just know how to count here. I know the touchpad usually acts as the select button in a lot of PS4 games, but that only just makes it even with Switch.
I counted even non-gameplay buttons like share and home since both have it.

>>383728843
you forgot the clickable touchpad

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There's always ways to deal with lack of buttons

>>383729117
I mentioned it in my post, it brings it to the same number as Switch

>>383729120
Unless you're a shitty has-been like CliffyB

God fucking damn, just say the thing is not powerful enough and be done with it without resorting to such pathetic "reasons". At least the makers of that rat indie get my respect for saying it like it is.

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>>383727094
>due to lack of button

Man out of all shitty excuses, this one is the worst, why not just say that is underpowered or some crap like online is not good enough.

>>383729549
hey there anon I know that sauce

just wanted to say good taste.

>>383728843
the touchpad clicks in 3 places: left, right, and top.

>>383729865
There is 2 more buttons on side of joycons, long as you use them separated from the dock plus clickable analogs.

He is fucking retarded.

>>383727587
A SHARE BUTTON! YOU GOTTA SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCES WITH OTHERS

>>383727094
But it's literally the same amount of buttons?

they are gonna make it work for xbox one which has even less buttons than the ps4 and switch, lmao. no touchpad buttons or side buttons. bullshit excuse is bullshit.

>Try to come up with a clever excuse.
>Make yourself look stupid.
Also makes whoever interviewed them look completely uninformed.

>>383730031
>>383727587
touchpad works as four extra buttons over standard controllers

>>383730447
I can see that being unreliable as fuck of the game is an arena shooter

>>383729865
five places

top left, top right, top middle, bottom right, bottom left

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I really think that they don't even have a fucking devkit.

>>383730509
It would be. Took me a while to get used to using it to switch forms in Gravity Rush 2.

>>383729865
I know there's left and right but prove to me that there's a top button.

Literally WHO????

>>383730509
They're actual buttons under the pad, not the sensitivity, which you could also program as a sort of pseudo button for swiping left/right/up/down

>>383730603
The touchpad can be used as various buttons, besides the fact that you can swipe it. It's actually very versatile if underused.

>>383730603
touchpad is more than one button, read the thread

>>383727416
>overwatch clone
you mean a TF2 clone

>>383730654
download ds4win and see for yourself

>>383730952
You mean a Doom clone

DS4 actually does have the most amount of buttons of the current gen controllers, but the excuse is likely bullshit

>>383731023
You mean a battleborn clone

>>383727094
Bullshit. They don't want it on the Switch because the inherent unfairness of aiming with the gyro to the point that they can outaim players with aim assist on. Players on other consoles will be bitching all day long about it.

>>383731196
If a game needs 16 individual mapped buttons that shit is a cluster fuck

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>>383727176

>>383731253
PS4 has gyro

>>383731253
The other controllers also have gyros, anon.

>>383731328
Switch controller have IR aiming, same as Wii.

Shit is really fancy for a controller.

>>383730603
The touchpad is multiple buttons, and also touch sensitive.

>>383731410
So does the PS4, you can use it in Tearaway to light up the world

>>383731196
It is, since they say in the same breath that they could get it to work on the Xbone. Unless they're retarded and think the "the base controller that's on the unit" is a single fucking joycon held sideways like how the Wii Remote worked.

>>383731289
Maybe the weapon switching is mapped to the touchpad or something? I have no idea about this game besides the fact that it's apparently a shooter.

>>383727094
I thought the Xbox One controller had the same number of buttons as the Switch controller. What extra buttons does it have?

>>383731537
I lnow games like killing floor have i dividual mapping per weapon per key bit that is aj advantage of keyboars

Shooters in consoles usually leave the swapping to the d pad unless they are ussing the d pad for somethine else and even so there still r1 l1

>>383731735
Or combo mapping
D pad alone being something
And holding a shoulder trigger changes the effects of the d pad

Again, you literally cant ran out of mapping options unless your game is a clister fuck

Everyone focusing on the amount of buttons of the ps4,but if you read what he said Xbox one is possible yet I am pretty sure xb1 and switch most likely have the same buttons

>>383727094
I just noticed something that makes this even dumber.
>We could probably make it work for the Xbox One in some way, right?
>But if you're looking at the Switch the base controller, that's on the unit, it doesn't have as many buttons
This isn't the guy saying that it has less buttons than the PS4 controller. This is the guy saying it has fewer buttons than the Xbox one controller, a controller that's literally identical to it, aside from the Switch having a screenshot button.

>>383731328
>>383731338
Which requires additional effort to have it work with the game. Nintendo is definitely going to ask them to add on the gyro aiming functionality for their console, and if they do it for the Switch but not on other consoles, the players will bitch and make them add it in. And we all know game developers are lazy people that's never willing to put in extra time/effort for zero monetary return.

>>383727094
What the ...? How many buttons this shitty game needs ??

>>383731958
>nintendo is going to ask me
They have no asked anyone anythinng singe wii era retard

>>383731958
Switch controller isn't really different from the other controllers, isn't wiimote where devs have to make another one just for it.

Also Ninty never really forces devs to use any gimmick that they have, they literally gave just a shitty excuse.

>>383731958
>Nintendo is definitely going to ask them to add on the gyro aiming functionality
But they didn't do that for anyone in the Wii U era, which still had shooters on it.
There were several CoD entries, and Watch_Dogs, on the Wii U. Both of them have shooting controls, and neither of them have gyro aiming.

>>383727094
Switch doesn't have 1 fps in its collection, why start now. Especially this game which is probably 60 fps and hella fast paced. Switch can barely run zelda or a warriors game so a fps is outta the question. They probably just don't want to come out and say it up front.

>>383732025
But they will, because Splatoon has proven how well gyro aiming has worked for shooters. They would be crazy to not ask the developers to add it in. They can refuse, but the players will be constantly asking them 'Why the fuck not?'

>cliff bleszinski
Why would you want this in the first place?
Also, why would you play it on console?
Also, this: >>383731986

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>>383730654

>>383730568
not true. only right left and upper.

>>383727094
>lack of button


Nigga you fucking what?

>>383732112
>>383732120
I did say 'ask', not force. And if the developers refuse, it would be their fault if the players bitch at the lack of said functionality. After Splatoon, the fanbase would be wondering why isn't it using said gyro in the first place.

>>383732158
They never really force devs to use some gimmick, there some games that don't use gyro as >>383732120 said, a lot of 3ds games don't even use 3d, and there is VOEZ on switch that isn't playable on docked mode.


It's up to the dev not Nintendo.

>>383729183
The touchpad can act as 4 buttons, one for each quadrant of it

Somebody has a link archive?

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>>383730603
>>383728843

>>383732490
>After Splatoon, the fanbase would be wondering why isn't it using said gyro in the first place.
Except, they wouldn't be? Because everyone has accepted by now that that's something that usually isn't going to happen in games?
You could say the same about all console shooters, really. After Splatoon came out, I wanted PS4 shooters to use the gyro, too, but I accepted that that was something developers don't see a point in programming, despite the added accuracy. People aren't going to bitch, they're just going to wish it was there. And it's a piss poor excuse anyway.

>>383732796
Switch have 2 buttons on each side of joycons. I think that ARMS use it if you play with separated joycons.

>>383728843
You forgot touchpad, which counts as at least 1 button and at most 4.

>>383732831
I'm just saying, unlike other consoles, which never made use of the gyro, Nintendo did. The Switch fanbase will be asking why isn't it in since they already had a game that's proven how effective it is. If the developers cave in for the Switch, they will need to cave in for the other consoles, and good luck trying to implement on something that was never done in the first place. Which also sets up a precedence that all future shooter games might need gyro aiming functionality after that.

>>383733354
That precedent is already set with the 3DS and Switch now. A shooter on the Switch will be expected to use the gyroscope.

>>383733046
ARMS doesn't use them except when playing with single joycon held horizontally. As far as I know, no game so far uses SL and SR as well as L/R and ZL/ZR buttons at the same time. I could be wrong though.

>>383733161
If you want to go that route, the Switch has other 'buttons' in the form of the motion controls i.e. Arms and it's blocking, punching and such.

>>383727094
Does this game use the PS4's touch pad or what?

Also if you are using the touchpad as extra face buttons you're fucking doing it wrong. Might as well drop consoles and make simulators for keyboards

>>383733464
Exactly, which is the real reason why it isn't coming to the Switch. Gyro aiming is expected and they can't justify the extra effort into implementing it across all of the other consoles.

>>383733507
Do you really want motion controls in a shooter?

>>383727094
our guy cliff b know switch is a POS

based

>>383733539
Like this anon said >>383731289
If you need all 16 buttons, you had gone full retard.

>>383733653
Not that guy but I want them for aiming, yeah. But that's not what you're talking about right?

Still, I don't think I'd want to use the PS4 touchpad buttons either. Is this game actually using them?

>>383733653
I'm just saying, the Switch has more than enough 'buttons', so their excuse is pure bullshit.

It's not like the game is completely shit right?
Did no one play the alpha or beta?
Game is doo doo and the class balance is piss poor.

>>383733587
Then Nintendo should make the libraries for adding gyro support to your game so easy it can tacked on. Nintendo players expect a feature, and while the onus is on devs to add it, devs can just as easily skip a console so if Nintendo wants games they need to work with developers.

>>383733653
It worked very well on Wii with Metroid prime and Golden Eye well as CoD or even RE4, i'm not talking about waggle but Aiming. Even then there is gyro to help, which is optional.

>>383733653
Gyro controls are objectively better than analog sticks for aiming

>>383733653
>reach to chest for knife
>reach behind yourself to switch guns
>reach for hip for grenades
>switch these around as needed
Could be neat.

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They also said that they can make it work for Xbox one. How are there more buttons on this controller than the Switch?

>>383734140
Maybe they're thinking about the XBOX ELITE.
lul

>>383731410
>Switch controller have IR aiming
The right joycon's IR camera is sticking out of the BOTTOM of the joycon; it's not intended to be used for aiming, and as far as I know no games do that.

>>383731472
The PS4 controller doesn't have an IR camera at all. If you're talking about using the PSeye camera, that's useful for tracking the position of the controller, not its orientation.

>>383734235
>The right joycon's IR camera is sticking out of the BOTTOM of the joycon; it's not intended to be used for aiming, and as far as I know no games do that.

Man for real? I got fucked into buying a wii at launch and that was the only thing I liked about it.

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No excuse.

>>383734140
The same amount if we don't count the home, capture, SR, and SL buttons on the joycon and don't count the Xbox button on the Xbox One controller.

>>383733653
Gyro is worse than a mouse but a million times better than a stick

>>383734140
Somebody should tweet him this question

>>383734389
Gyro aiming can simulate IR aiming. The main difference in use is that gyro aiming isn't restricted to an area like IR aiming which allows for greater movement, but gyro aiming can be thrown off if moved to quickly and may need to be recentered with a press of a button.

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BLESZINSKI

>>383734520
The first thing that came to my mind when I saw this is a 'The Typing of the Dead' bundle. Probably also comes with a 'The House of the Dead' Switch version that uses the individual Joycons as the 'guns'.

>>383735018
It is for DQX and apps.

Unless that sega go mad man and port PSO to it, which I doubt.

>>383735017
but seriously, who? Should i know him?

>>383735138
Just saying, it's a keyboard. I would love to play The Typing of the Dead on the go. Or if they managed to do it, The House of the Dead on to go with a buddy.

>>383730447
>That means we could probably make it work for the Xbox One in someway, right?
Right? No. just how does this make any sense whatsoever? It barely makes any sense with the PS4 already. No one wants all the corners of the touchpad be used in any high intensity setting.
And the Xbox controller? You've got to be joking. The Switch controllers are in no way lacking.

Just admit you don't want to do gyro or want to avoid Nintendo as a whole.

>>383735140
You should if you're posting on a video game board.

>>383735003
That's the problem though. Without IR to tell when you are pointing at the screen, you'll have to manually reset it after a while. We'll probably never see gyro FPS on the switch for that reason. I guess Prime 4 is going to be a regression.

>>383735564
well i don't. Gimme some of his work and well see

1 Primary fire - RT
2 Secondary fire - LT
3 Weapon swap - Y
4 Kick - X
5 Jump - RB
6 Blindfire - LB
7 Grenade - B
8 Character regular power - A
9 Character ultimate power - Y

I don't see the problem tbqh

>>383735675
I can see a control scheme where they ask you flip the Joycon over to use the IR Camera for aiming.

>>383735918
Unreal Tournament, Gears of War, Brothers in Arms and most recently LawBreakers.

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>>383735945
And use the analog stick and home button?

Also is the IR camera in the controller or on the screen? The Wii just had an IR LED in its controller. How is it useful for anything on the controller's ass? What were they thinking?

>>383735919
That is one weird ass control scheme

>>383736204
I also used Y twice
Whatever, ult can go on L3 or something

Lawbreakers requires you to hold down blindfire or jump while aiming, so they have to go on shoulder buttons really

>>383736112
>not JJR

>>383736298
LB jump RB melee would be better as people are used to it already with Halo's bumper jumper

>>383736191
Right Joycon for general aiming and firing, left Joycon for all the inventory using and movement.

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>>383734520
mfw Phantasy star online EP1&2 HD port

>>383736496
Firing backwards to propel yourself forwards is a pretty core mechanic in LB's movement, and you don't want to stop people from aiming while you're doing that

>>383736541
Yeah but what are you going to fire with? The home button? Pushing the stick forward? It would work but Nintendo isn't going to license any game that's that confused.

>>383737149
Like I said, an alternative control scheme, they'll find a way to make it work somehow. That and I'm almost sure there's going to be an accessory that looks like Samus's arm canon that pulls this control scheme off perfectly.

>>383727094

The fuck is a Lawbreakers?

>>383737345
>That and I'm almost sure there's going to be an accessory that looks like Samus's arm canon that pulls this control scheme off perfectly.

I haven't paid attention to the switch since launch. Did games with packaged custom joycons theory come true yet?

Also I think nintendo learned they hated doing that shit with the N64. You can't raise the price of the game to pay for the included hardware like the rumble pack and expansion pack. So they just eat it.

>>383737578
Well, there was the Entire Wii think with gorillions of accesories and controller skins.

But I guess this time Ninty is just going slap new joy con colors, unless Harmonix ports RB to Switch or someone make another controller.

>>383727094

They could have easily just said either

> "The Switch is a neat console but Lawbreakers wont be coming to the console due to it's hardware limitations."

Or

>"We currently have no plans to bring Lawbreakers to the Switch."

But they decided to go with the "My dog ate my homework." excuse.

>>383736112
oh does explain why i don,t know him. I don't play trash

Well thats not exactly fair, UT was ok

>>383738417
>BiA
>trash
Shit taste. First Gears was decent too, not amazing or anything, just decent.