Open World

skyrim

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>>383709923
>literally every single game made in the last few years

>>383710057
This.

>>383710057
>>383710147
fuck

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>>383710057

Unironically this.

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>Game is not open world
>WAAH LINEAR GAMES ARE KILLING VIDEO GAMES I WANT MORE OPEN GAMES
>Game is open world
>WAAH FUCKING OPEN WORLD TRASH OPEN WORLD GAMES ARE KILLING VIDEO GAMES I WANT MORE LINEAR GAMES

God I fucking hate you guys.

Open world is not necessary a bad thing, it is a normie trend though, most of the major studio make sure they shit them out as quickly and shallow as possible.

>>383710216
You can have more open games that aren't full of running through empty areas and replaying old areas.

>>383710216
You'll notice that OP was quite restrained in his complaints about open world games, unlike the examples you used in your post.

>>383710216
There are hub games, you know. And I think that's the best of both worlds.

>>383710057
If 2/3 of your Skrim playing was running/riding a horse through empty areas you are a moron who didn't use fast travel.

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when will more people start designing actual open worlds instead of using open world as excuse to shit out bland endless fields and mountains?

>>383709923
Because you are in your early 20's or teens and do not remember living in a world where every adventure you tried to embark upon was broken down into sub-levels like Stage 1-4, etc.

Not every generation has sensory attention defficit disorder like you adderal addicted spazes.

>>383710057
>>383710147
If you use fast travel, that's your game, hell may be even every game. You get the same shit if you are not using fast travel.

Some open world features really ruining modern game design.

>>383710393
Then there are the "open world" games that try to incorporate the convenience of hub games and you end up with a mess.
>see the difference between hub-based Demon's Souls, open-world Dark Souls, and the open-but-teleport-every-10-steps Dark Souls 2/3
I think Bloodborne pulled off the hub+openworld hybrid nicely, but in that kind of case the "open world" is really just a technicality.

>>383710532
I think people will get tired of it in the future, may be 5-7 years or less.

>>383710057
Skyrim as in
>Skyrim caused every game to become open-world
or Skyrim as in
>Play Skyrim if you want to fight monsters and baddies

>>383710216
you do have to admit that open world games literally destroyed the video game industry and also caused the collapse of western society

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Maybe you should fight monsters and baddies and not travel?

>>383710876
Skyrim as in
>open world game sold millions upon millions of copies all around the world

I've always hated open world trash, but it's only gotten worse with time. It ruined MGS, it ruined Zelda, it ruined fucking FINAL FANTASY. WHY THE FUCK DID FINAL FANTASY GO OPEN WORLD?

I pirate that trash and refuse to pay for it. And I never end up playing more than 3 hours at most with each. Cyberpunk 2077 is gonna be the same shit.

>>383710649
I always considered BB a linear game in terms of game design. By hub-based the first game I can come up with Witcher 2, which doesn't have a linear level design, but they used its environment very well.

>>383710532
New Londo was below Ash Lake? What the fuck?

>>383710532
It will take a while because it's relatively easy to use tools to create a believable landmass with some nature and stuff but really hard to fill it with interesting content that's not repetitive as fuck and clearly an afterthought.
Creating fun content is hard, plastering LOOK WE HAVE 500 KM^2 AREA IN OUR GAME stickers all over the package is easy.

>>383711070
Damn, level design I mean.

>>383710251
It is necessarily a bad thing. No game has ever been improved by being open world. Carefully crafted linear level design is always better.

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>>383711070
>BB
Now here's something that pisses me off. Can't you type the full name of the game you're referring to? You already wrote a consistent post with proper punctuation, capital letters and whatnot but you can't write "Bloodborne"?
That is all.

>>383711215
You reach a point in life where the only games you talk about are the Souls games so it gets easier to just abbreviate them all.

>>383711295
faggots do maybe

real men will always have futa games

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>>383711295
I understand.

I miss the days of gray and bloom corridor shooters with cartoony but colourless graphics

>>383711215
>Autism intensifies
Damn it, Bloodborne alright.
WTF do you want English is not my native language, I am drunk and browsing /v/ its like walking on lava then try not get burn.

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>>383711061
It baffles me most with JRPGs; you're already losing the immersion not having to load areas often would bring by having isolated battles and plenty of menu time, so why make players backtrack to early trash-mob areas even MORE than RPGs used to?

>>383711365
pls list top open-world futa games
asking for a friend

>>383711191
>No game has ever been improved by being open world.
Xenoblade Chronicles X.
I'll gladly accept all the flaws the game had because it allowed me to roam Mira.
Mo matter how carefully crafted your linear levels are you can't have that kind of exploration in them.

>>383711562
skyrim with mods

>>383711191
>No game has ever been improved by being open world
Blackbox Need for Speed was the fucking shit man

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>>383709923
>literally every

>>383711112
It's not even below blighttown, since one of blighttowns upper exits is connected to it via the valley of drakes

I get claustrophobic easily so I'm very about open world games. Of course it's not nice when they're too empty.

>>383709923
It's a cheap and fast way to simulate content and length of playtime that isn't there

the industry managed to connotate "open world" with a positive meaning, while in reality it means empty world

>>383711191
STALKER

>>383709923
Because like most design trends, it's what sells the most.

You have five seconds to name literally any good reason this was open-world
>nothing to explore
>side missions pop up in a predetermined location, one at a time
>no random encounters
>sometimes dialog gets cut off if you finish the car ride too soon
>if you try to have fun and wreck things, you lose "points" for your mission grade

>>383712398
Not really, you still need to put stuff in there, like actual mechanic or systems, i.e. Crafting, leveling + skills, dynamic events which is random side mission that occurs repeatedly.

If you can make a good looking open world, that is a bonus. I must say Ubisoft is very good at making historical open-world environment, it is not easy and takes a tremendous amount of works, but empty or not is another thing.

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>>383712949
Fuck me

>>383712668
>running back and forth across that big first area 10 times
It's okay in games like SoC because the world isn't ZOMG SO MAAASSSSIIVVVEE FIVE MILLION SQUARE MILES but that seems to be the trend now.

>>383712058
same but empty open worlds can induce even more claustrophobia than corridor games imo

>>383711295
>Tell me if there are any games that can help me get out of this point of life?

Hard mode No Souls games

>>383711191
>Grand Theft Auto

the fuck, anon

>>383712953
Crafting systems are the shittiest meme in gaming. Only a couple series have good crafting systems and the rest hype up something that rarely ever gets used.

>>383709923
>I want to fight monsters and baddies and shit, not spend 2/3rds of my playtime running/riding a horse through empty fields/deserts to get to the next level.
That's what fast travel is for, idiot

>>383713354
Then why not separate the stages and remove all that empty space between them that nobody uses?

>>383713492
it's kinda fun in metroidvania type games.

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>Playing game
>Need to get the ground combat challenge of defeating 8 enemies in 1 fury mode
>Suddenly realize why Sweden is considered a nation of cuckolds

>>383713657
metroidvania type games rarely, if ever, have any sort of fast travel. They work because the world is fairly small and doesn't have miles of empty space to fill it with pseudo-content.

>>383713492
Because now there's no open area between bases, at all, moron.

>>383713227
Good or not, crafting is an actual mechanic, and most of the players do not seem to care, and what developer sees are profit.

Not to mention, it is the easiest way to encourage player to explore the world.

>>383713830
And you're doing what exactly with this open area that you ignore and fast-travel past?

Just give a map and select where to travel to, if you leave the area bring up the map again. No massive empty void in between bases.

>>383713984
Fast Travel dumps you in a predetermined spot in the middle of the base and there are mini outposts and animals along the way, in short, stop being a bitch.

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>>383711061
> open world ruined Final Fantasy

>>383714135
The fuck is wrong with FFVI you cheeky cunt?

>>383713771
(The reason I realized that is because the melee combat system is like a Batman style thing, but it doesn't read half of your inputs and enemies can rain blows on you mid-attack, knocking away chunks of the Fury bar and turning what should be a simple challenge into an absolute pain in the ass. Only someone with a serious denial fetish could find the combat system good.)

>>383710216
You can have non open world games that don't feel linear. Nu-Doom has large explorable levels even though the overall game is linear.

>>383716132
I am really looking forward to Metro Exodus, the last time I heard about the Last Light DLC seems very well received because of it.

>>383714347
All of WoR is boring. And that's about half the game.

>>383709923
In theory, it's the best way to do a game. But also much more difficult.