Glad we are finally at an agreement.

1 = NV > 2 >>> 3 >> 4

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>>383705951
brain meme thread?

Fallout 1 and 2 are the only good ones.

NV is better than 3

>>383706317
>fallout 3
>originality
it was every idea from Fallout 1 and 2 mashed together that made no sense and was retarded as shit

>>383705951
>>383706317
1 > 4 = 2 > NV > 3

>>383705951
The only thing I don't understand is why all the fallout 4 hate, they stripped all the rpg elements but people still complain as if the game was a rpg

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>>383706564
This anon get it.

>>383706830

>I don't know what an RPG is

Shouldn't you be playing Fallout 4?

>>383706830
>implying the only fun part of videogames is the shooting/stealth/movement&dexterity-based challenges
wew lad, i guess you've got a low threshold for noggin joggin, eh?

Fallout 1 and 2 are slow clunky garbage

Fuck off contrarian

I can't stand Todd games. Skyrim and NV are the two purchases I probably regret the most.

>>383707090
>>383707112
>I don't know what a video GAME is
Honestly senpai its almost like video games most important aspect is the gameplay or something regarldess of genre.

Shouldn't you be reading a CYOA goosebumps novel or something?

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>>383706830
>>383707231
>>383707317
The kids are here.

>>383707317

>hurr gameplay is just shooting things i wanna kill stuff xD

kill urself my man

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>>383707434
>The Gamers are here
FTFY /v/ipster cuck

>>383707234
New Vegas wasn't Todd though

>>383707434
Not a argument

>>383706564
Rising was better than V though

>>383706830
If you're after gameplay why the fuck would you play either of them?

>>383707470
Nah dude gameplay is how you interact with the world and it just happens the primary way you interact with the world tends to be through combat.

I mean it truly does get your neurons firing that some people might enjoy the GAMEplay in a video game over the telltale aspects of the game because they like video games or something and not what happens next time on the next episode of of Minecraft Story Mode Season 2 you fucking story cuck.

>>383705951
you sound awfully fucking butthurt about the whole series.

>>383707708
>Nah dude gameplay is how you interact with the world and it just happens the primary way you interact with the world tends to be through combat.

just because you only play shit games doesn't mean that's true

Fallout 3/4, and Fallout New Vegas are trying to do two very different things, and thus end up feeling like very different games despite being very similar

>>383707708
>primary way you interact with the world tends to be through combat.

Except this is NPC interactions in an RPG.

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>>383707689
Yeah this is a good point. Why would you play Fallout 3 or New Vegas if you're after gameplay when Fallout 4 exists with tons of mods to tweak it to however you want.

Like hey want mods that make it a hardcore post apoc survival game that BTFO's Stalker and Metro? You got it.

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>>383707898
i know your trolling but fallout 3 probably has 15 times as many mods and so does new vegas.

>>383707317
>i don't realize good games have goal tiers
>i don't realize you can make a game more interactive by having higher order goals that affect your lower order goals and vice versa
>i don't realize that games with lower variability and more focus on immediate reaction time above all else are actually for brainlets

>>383705951
>basically the same
>implying the minor adjustments to the core mechanics weren't significant improvements when looking at the game in the long run
The changes to the repair system and reputation for example were really small additions that improved the experience. They might seem like minor changes, but over the course of a play through, they end up having a big impact.

>>383707231
>clunky
love it when cocksuckers use random buzzwords without providing any arguments
just admit you were too confused by ui to progress

>>383707968
And the gameplay base they're built upon makes it effectively impossible to ever reach the same level of gameplay smoothness and complexity as most other first-person shooters. At least Fallout 4 is notably closer to the genre standard.

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>>383707784
Just because you only play glorified visual novels that claim to be a video games doesn't make you a gamer.
>>383707836
Role playing GAME
Video GAME
GAMEplay

Gameplay is still the most important aspect regardless of genre. I mean hell there only seems to be this warped cookie cutter cancer from /v/ipsters on what an RPG is. For example look at Japanese RPGs ffs. Barely any of them have dialogue options and then you get shit like Dark Souls which while still having a fuck ton of stats and such is still a gameplay focused game as it should be as any VIDEO GAME should be.

>>383707968
Yep as
>>383708110
Said

There's no mod to fix the gameplay in those games in comparison to Fallout 4.

>>383708230
>role playing isn't gameplay

>>383708230

Writing GAME doesn't in anyway disprove that NPC interactions are GAMEplay in an RPG.

>>383707836
Not in action RPGs, sonny. The only RPGs that have a massive focus on character interaction are isometric RPGs and games that are practically visual novels.

>>383708110
Eh i guess ill actually agree with you there.
As someone whos autistic and has to be as optimal as possible every time i play new vegas i just end up abusing the shit ai by killing them from like 2 grids away so they cant ever fight back. Basically ruin the fun of the game. But its the games fault for allowing that shit.

>>383707898
none of those mods fix the awful writing and retarded quests
polished turd is still a turd because modders know jack shit about balancing

>>383707512
>gamers
holy fuck kill yourself

>>383705951
How can you get this meme wrong? The first ones supposed to be widely accepted fact with the options becoming more outlandish and strange the further down you go.

>>383705951
people making these things are aware that the last panel is supposed to be "and now they just went full retard and couldn't be further away from the progression of the stance", right?

>>383705951
>>383705951
Nah the last one is complete horseshit.
>Fallout 3 only has two factions that you can't gain reputation or influence with, and you can only join one of them
>NV has 4 main factions you can gain favor with and betray + a completely alternate ending if you side with Elijah
>Fallout 3 has percentage speech checks and occasional stat checks
>New Vegas has checks for all of your main stats + perks + skills, as well as skill books to give leeway for these checks instead of percentages
>VATS in Fallout 3 makes your character invincible and borders on God Mode after acquiring Grim Reaper's Sprint, VATS in New Vegas can still get you killed if you don't use it wisely and perks are only available after every other level
>All of the changes in Hardcore mode in New Vegas
>Fallout 3 recycles supermutants, Enclave, and Brotherhood of Steel for no logical reason, while reappearing factions in New Vegas have changed or progressed to their logical conclusion (the Enclave are down to a few retired remnants, the Brotherhood of Steel is barely clinging to life, the NCR is a superpower, the Followers of the Apocalypse have improved their technology and skills, supermutants are not all dumb brutes and most of them are gone, etc)
>Content in Fallout 3 allows you to explore anywhere you want, but because designers have no idea what level you'll be at any given area enemies in most areas will be hilariously weak or have shitty gear. Content in New Vegas allows you to go directly to New Vegas from the start if you're willing to risk the more dangerous enemies or take a safer route where you can visit each settlement in any order you choose.
>Bullets in Fallout 3 don't even shoot straight, while they do in New Vegas when iron sights are used. Armor is actually useful in New Vegas because of Damage Threshold, while in Fallout 3 on very hard difficulties there is no point in wearing armor because you'll die in a few hits regardless.

>>383708539
Fallout 1 and 2 fans are the wildest and strangest hipster faggots in the franchise, because Tactics and BoS fans don't exist. I'm not convinced that most of the people who like them have actually finished either of the two.

>>383706830
Go play CoD or CS:GO you brainless troglodyte

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>>383708630
>he's so easily upset he got baited by a fucking exploding brain meme

Nice job, Obsidiot.

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@383708753

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>>383708630

>>383708753
Well as evidenced by this thread there are actual retards who believe this shit, so that's for them and not you, faggot.

>>383705951
this is the most retarded thing i've seen today

>>383707623
different kind of game. more immediate and fast paced gameplay that are about reading and responding to prompts on screen (once you learn to block the game becomes fairly easy, even on the higher difficulties). rising was more fun in its minute to minute gameplay, but it is a game for brainlets.

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>>383708361
No it actually isn't considering you can roleplay any game. I mean fuck you can pop on dark souls and pretend you're shrek. That doesn't mean that's what the gameplay is. That's just how YOU play the game in some autistic manner.
>>383708421
Good thing writing isn't that important in a gameplay focused game.
>>383708496
>The hi/v/e has become so /v/ipster on a gaming image board that they don't even like the term gamer
This just goes to show you how the neo /v/ipsters truly aren't actual gamers. You're cucks who don't like video games and invaded this board which used to be good with your nasty ass visual novel tier culture and the people who actually stick around trying to counter your degeneracy since we don't want fucking non gamers on our board just get a headache honestly.
>>383708718
Woah yeah TOTALLY d00d you sure got him with that CLASSIC 2008 meme slightly updated to include CSGO in a thread only talking about singleplayer games.

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>people actually defending FO4

>>383709027
>our board
>d00d

looks like i've fallen for bait

NV is better than 2

2 was literally the Borderlands of its time, the amount of actual quality world building sacrificed for pop culture references is fucking ridiculous

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>>383705951

>>383708753
>thinks bait threads like this won't attract legitimate retards who believe this shit
Poe's law, nigger.

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>>383709178
>When autism flares up so bad he can't tell the difference between 1 reply in the post being ironic mocking and the other not

>>383709027
see >>383708015

>>383709270

ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>383709215
flip the top for the bottom and youd be correct.

>>383706317
this unironically

>>383709027
>mass replying
kys attention whore

>>383709364
>t. brainlet

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>>383709027
>our board

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thinken...

NV has invisible walls everywhere you go while 3 and 4 feel nice and wide open

>>383709324
>>383708015
What do you expect me to say to this idiotic post?

Gameplay focused games still game goal tiers, and interactions with the world that affect your lower order goals, etc.

Gameplay focused games can still offer more variability and choices without having to turn it into a fucking visual novel.

>>383706564
Switch 4 and 2. Only the first and last hour of MGS2 are amazing. Big Shell is horrible.

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>>383705951
>minor differences
holy shit you are retarded

>>383709594
3 and 4 have invisible walls in story

>>383709689
People who say the games have minor differences tend to be focusing on the gameplay exclusively since to most people that's all that matters.

>>383708630
>Content in Fallout 3 allows you to explore anywhere you want, but because designers have no idea what level you'll be at any given area enemies in most areas will be hilariously weak or have shitty gear. Content in New Vegas allows you to go directly to New Vegas from the start if you're willing to risk the more dangerous enemies or take a safer route where you can visit each settlement in any order you choose.

All of fallout 3 level scales, so this shouldn't be the case. I think level scaling mapwide is a bad thing (hence why it was cut in NV and reworked in 4) and that NV is a better game than 3, but its unfair to just make shit up about teh game that doesnt happen

>>383709594
>NV has invisible walls everywhere you go while 3 and 4 feel nice and wide open

both 3 and 4 had invisible world boundaries that just fucking said "you cannot go this way".

Also the notion that NV has more random ass invisible walls is just plain wrong

>>383707317
>>383706830
lol he's mad because OP made fun of fallout

>>383709916
>he thinks gameplay is just the control mechanics
Absolutely brainlet

>>383710005
Not that guy but no fucking shit there is world boundaries. Also are you really delusional enough to say nv having more invisible walls is wrong lmao.

>>383709916
>People who say the games have minor differences tend to be focusing on the gameplay exclusively since to most people that's all that matters.

you speak for everyone who says that the games are really similar? No.
also
>basing the value of a fallout game using gameplay as an argument

fallout 1 and 2 had shitty game play but are some of the greatest games ever made.

>>383710269
NV world boundaries were occupied by mountains or NCR and legion checkpoints, and actually felt justified.
3 and 4 boundaries were invisible was that said "go fuck yourself"

>>383709689
I think sheer amounts of weapons are a retarded argument, and this is coming fro someone who liked NV more than 3. All the uniques in both games are minor reskins with statistical differences, with a few exceptions like compliance regulator and jingweis shocksword. Lots of the weapons in NV are a bit samey but use different ammo and have different stats (ex the 357 and the 44 mag revolvers play the same, with different numbers)

>>383709616
this was the post i wanted, thank you. goodnight, brainlet.

>>383709653
big shell was fine, all the middle bits of 2 were great and necessary as build-up for the final parts of the game. though i recognize not everyone feels that way. 4 should not be moved up at all, and if anything should be moved down. chapters 1+2 were fine, but pretty straightforward. best parts were the opposing factions that you could side with the rebels, though i would've liked to see a lot more possible ways for those events to play out, with a wider array of possible conclusions to those skirmishes, maybe with long term gameplay effects (like in 3 how you could blow up storage sheds to tamper with the enemy, the sorrow fight, and the tracker+ocelot unit/extra cutscene) chapter 3 was a good concept poorly executed. chapter 4 got by on nostalgia, mostly. chapter 5 was fucking nothing.

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>>383710287
No I don't speak for everyone but I used to work at gamestop which is where most of the nromies got their games and generally yunno that's what the vast majority of people talked about when in relation to Fallout 3 to New Vegas. I heard it plenty of times. Fallout New Vegas is just Fallout 3 in a desert with iron sights and better weapons so the gameplay is better, or something along those lines.

Also i'm not that dude sperging over gameplay but i'd to disagree with you at a fundamental level my dude. How can a game have shitty gameplay and be the best games ever made? That doesn't even make any sense.

>>383706564

>Having such a pea brain you think unfinished games are god tier

You must also have shrapnel in your skull

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>>383708110
>Fallout series
>first-person shooters

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>>383710625
That's because it DOESN'T make any fucking sense. All these cucks defending this trash tier isometric borefests aren't interested in fun games with good gameplay. Lemme pull out a list its a bit outdated but here's a list of games that are actually fun based on gameplay alone

>This Triggers the /v/ipster cuck

1. Skyrim
2. Fallout 4
3. Fallout New Vegas/Fallout 3
4. Oblivion
5. MGSV
6. Bloodborne
7. Dark Souls 2
8. Shadow of Mordor
9. Dying Light
10. Kingdom Hearts 2
11. Red Dead Redemption
12. Just Cause 2
13. GTAV
14. Far Cry 4
15. Assassins Creed 4
16. Watch_Dogs
17. Half Life
18. Half Life 2
19. Grafitti Kindom
20. Infamous 2
21. Metal Gear Solid 3
22. Metal Gear Solid 4
23. DOOM 4
24. Hotline Miami 2
25. Spyro 3

>>383710005
Difference is the borders of NV are really thin. You have to actively try to find the boundaries of 3 and 4

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>>383710708
>le unfinished game meme

>>383710865
>dumb frogposter has shit taste

what a surprise

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>>383707968
anon...

>>383710625
>How can a game have shitty gameplay and be the best games ever made? That doesn't even make any sense.

IK that it sounds confusing, but accually play the first 2 games and you'll see how its possible

> I heard it plenty of times. Fallout New Vegas is just Fallout 3 in a desert with iron sights and better weapons so the gameplay is better, or something along those lines.

all because more people believe something to be true than people believe it to be false, doesn't mean it's true.

>>383711362
I actually have played them. I didn't like them. Found em quite boring honestly. Also I mean from a pure gameplay perspective they weren't wrong if you think about it.

>>383710865
Have a (You).

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>>383710865
>All these cucks defending this trash tier isometric borefests aren't interested in fun games with good gameplay

along with fallout 1 and 2, quake3 and tf2 are some of my favorite games ever.
Whens the last time you heard someone say that they play quake for the story or characters?

>old as fuck meme
>>>/facebook/

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>>383711617
Sounds like you just like games that are outdated. You're either a /v/ipster or someone with nostalgia goggles living in the past.

>>383711509
>Found em quite boring honestly
I'll admit, I did too when I first played it, although I was very young at the time. When I came back and took the time to read and immerse myself, I got a lot better time

>Giving Neogaf (You)s
/v/ is lost

>>383711851
Its prob just a generational thing man. I'm like 24 I grew up on platformers and oldschool action games on PS1 and N64 and stuff like that. I just can't really get into much slow paced games.

>>383711805

I first played arena in 2016, and TF2 in 2013 so I'm not sure about the nostagia goggles arguments.

>Sounds like you just like games that are outdated.
you're not wrong. My favorite recent series is dark souls.

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>>383707512
>Gamers

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>>383708630

>>383712279
someone post the image.

>>383712382
What image retard? How about posting it yourself

>>383706830
So this is what a brainlet post looks like, thanks.

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>>383712382
>>383712525
>>383712279

THE image.

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@383712279

>>383712738
>>383712745
What's sad is you people really do act like the comic, and you're not even aware.

>>383706564
How can one man be so wrong?

>>383706317
this

>>383708015
>>383708950
>>383709493
>>383710170
>>383710540
>>383712568
>>/lit/
(You)

@383712876
Please find a post of mine where I acted irrationally.

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>>383712876
If if that were true, which it is not, two people dont account for their entire group

>people legitimately think Fallout 4 had interesting gameplay
yes I played it

>>383706317
Holy shit you can't be serious. FO2 was objectively an improvement from FO1. It has nothing but steps up. I don't even care about the rest you just are counting numbers like this.

>>383709689
>>383712279

Can you guys just fuck off with these? They dont facillitate real discussion. if you want (you)s at least be creative or funny

>>383713489
>hehe you can make PORN and prizefight xd

>>383713489
If you're more into a mad max, the world is still completely fucked feel, the first fallout would be more up your alley. There's also a large group of fans that much prefer the Unity to the Enclave.

>>383713489
temple of trials was a cockblock to some

Story was more wacky and less dark. Was noblebright, not nobledark. This isnt objective though

Master was probably a better villain than the enclave, who you unfortunately couldnt side with

>>383713076
i can ctrl+f "brainlet" too

>>383705951
superior level: ALL Fallout games are boring as hell and easily among the blandest RPGs ever made, only having a decent semi_original setting for them.

>>383714889
What do you play then?

NV > 4 > 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1

Fact.

>>383715140
I'm not playing any games, do you really think i'ld be posting stuff here if I was ?

>>383709215
fuck you man I come to /v/ to get away from those thoughts

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>>383715234
>2
>not in the trash, where it belongs

>>383705951
Well I do agree that both are inferior to 2d fallouts, but NV>3.

>>383706564
V is trash. GZ was alright, but nowhwre near the level you put it on.

>>383712029
??? there is no link between Parish and Depths

>Darkroot called "Darkwood"
>One way arrow to burg for some reason from Depths, even though lower burg is definitely two way to depths

JUST

>>383715837
GZ gave me such false hope for V

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Time to bring this up again, what do you think Rockstar will do for GTA 6's location?
I think Hawaii, maybe Honolulu would be an interesting location since GTA hasn't gone tropical yet, but maybe they'll go back to Vice City?

You know, this board should really be deleted, but that would cause everyone here to go ruin other boards

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>>383711805
>If you like any old games you're a hipster

>>383717167
My bad senpai. If you ONLY like old games you're a /v/ipster.

>>383714889
/thread.

>>383717245
so what if I like a handful of modern games as of late?

>>383717654
That sounds dangerously /v/ipster but give me some examples and i'll let you know.

>>383717748
uh well I liked nuDOOM and furi along with most of the games that came out this year you already know which ones

>>383717940
honey select updates?

>>383717940
>along with most of the games that came out this year
Like Major AAA releases? Major Indie releases? Major releases of both?

>>383718267
both

>>383718379
Alright i'll list some of the popular games from each and you tell me if you liked em if you played em.

Resident Evil 7
Nier Automata
Prey
The Surge
Horizon Zero Dawn
Nioh
Sniper Elite 4
For Honor
Mass Effect Andromeda

Playerunkowns Battlegrounds
(Fuck that's literally the only popular indie game I can think of that came out this year)

>>383705951
2 = 3
1 = New Vegas

>>383719101
out of all of those i've only played nier and nioh

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>>383705951

>>383711129
well to my defence there was a server outage like 5 or 6 years ago and a lot of mods got deleted back then.