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It's my turn now.
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For now...
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WEAR YOUR VIT RINGS
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>>383696215
His entire comment made zero fucking sense if you think about it. First off, he said HP bloat is becoming a problem yet expects people to wear appropriate gear that has VIT on it anyway,m which has NOTHING to do with scaling damage off VIT. Secondly, he implied that people are using STR to hold enmity and was part of the consideration for boosting enmity skills. STR tanks do it for damage, not enmity. He still continues to deny the existence of the DPS meta.
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>>383696639
There is no meta.
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>>383695078
did this actually happen?
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Playing SAM until they decide wtf they are gonna do with tanks
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>>383696639
Just make tank damage scale off Vit again and everybody will be happy for christ's sake this change was the most unnecessary shit imaginable
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>>383698386
But then tanks wouldn't lose damage from dying!
Just put STR on the fucking things.
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>>383698557
Or, you know, just let the debuff reduce attack/spell power.
But no, that would be too fucking hard.
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>>383699092
That'd require rewriting too much code!
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>>383698386
>tfw mention vit scaling removal to people i play with
>they're all dps
>"shut up you whiny tank, you're not a dps"
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>>383695078
>DPS
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>>383699304
>tfw this image is no longer relevant
I miss old Berserk
It was fun trying to cram as much as I could in before Paci hits
Now it's just FoF with a different name
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Why do healers and tanks want to dps so goddamn badly in this game? play a fucking dps class if you want to dps, jesus fucking chirst.
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>>383695078
>that feelirino when 80% of the Omega Normal gear has shit sub-stats and you still haven't done Lakshmi EX for your BiS accessories yet
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>>383698191

>they were in such a hurry to get the expansion out they didn't balance any of the classes

sausagea yoshida
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>>383699496
the same reason why FFXIV since 2.3 has been turned into a piss easy game. It's to make the game more accessible for all those crybabies, because they'd flip their shit if all they could do is always tank or if they didn't get their welfare gear that skips every instance but 1 raid.
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>>383699737
>turned into a piss easy game
>yet there are still people who cant even clear Shinryu
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>>383699828
and I said this to shit on those people, not say the game is hard.
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>>383699496
Only tanking and only healing is boring as fuck.
DPS players are fucking garbage and need to be carried.
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y'all niggas postin' in a lalafell thread
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>>383699496

if they can do their jobs properly on top of it, more power to them.

there's a reason que times are so long
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>>383700041
>if they can do their jobs properly
most can't

SCHs are the worst of it, they're also the biggest fucking cry babies and I'm glad their DPS got gutted. Maybe you will fucking keep the party alive for once and not have to rely on your fairy crutch
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>>383696639
Tfw under powered War wearing VIT and still pumping out More DPS than DPS players.

Fucking casuals.
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>>383699931
Kill yourself
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>>383699828
Those are the kind of people that attempt it once and then cry in a corner that it's impossible to do, but don't worry about it, because it will be nerfed like they every time they do when there's new content. They'll just go to the forum and spam the shit out of it because they feel entitled to new gear because they want it as Glam for their ERP.

I want pre-2.3 back, when the EXTREME variants today where the introduction instances and when levelling a character was actually a fucking achievement.
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What's the PLD stat ranking now for materia?

STR > DH > Crit >> * ?
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>>383700461
STR > DH

I read on reddit that det is better than crit until you reach 1700, but the dude cited 4chan so I'm sceptical.
Tenacity is slightly worse than crit/det, but is still better than SS.
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>>383699931
Guess we should delete the thread, then.
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>>383699468
>tfw shake it off sucks
>tfw enhanced infuriate is almost useless
>tfw gap closer takes meter and does less damage that plunge
>tfw 50% berserk damage boost never again
>tfw 8 rage
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>>383700461
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6mfffh/with_reference_to_stat_values/

Dervy also chimes in on this thread.
No weights yet. WD > STR > everything else for tanks.
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>>383700668
>level PLD to 70 first
>start leveling WAR from 60
>do a Sohm Al hard run

>try to Infuriate before the first pull but can't
>switch to Deliverance on the first boss after gaining my enmity lead, then lose 50 meter for no good reason
>throw up Vengeance but can't put up Bloodbath with it
>no more Flash for easy pulling

I'm not looking forward to the future.
Should I just quit while i'm ahead?
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>>383701113
No weights but DH is so busted it's not even funny.
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>>383701121
wait for 4.05
I've got war at 70 it's not fun
>tfw gladiator at 24
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>>383701121
If you play WAR you're already behind, the only thing good is the lvl 66 trait.
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>>383701371
DRK start at lvl 30.
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>>383701315
It's not busted, tank gear literally has 0 of it so any increase is obviously gonna come off as a bigger gain than other stats since you are going up from 0.
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>>383701598
No, it literally has double the DPS increase per point compared to any other secondary.
Unless you're a Bard or Black Mage, you'll be packing that bad boy everywhere you can.
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>>383699931
reminder that lalafells are objectively the best race for red mages
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>>383702840
>tfw no Lalafell boy to ride on with my femroe WHM to milk his little dick
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>>383702840
Reminder that you're an absolute faggot.
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Anyone else burnt out already?
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>>383704095
>Anyone else burnt out already?

No
Do you have a job or do you just play this 8 hours a day?
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>>383704095
I am but that's because I've been playing every day since early access. Everyone else who's not a NEET is still plenty busy.
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>>383695078
moddddds
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>>383704914
What's up kid?
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>>383695078
queues for dps are still 30+ minutes. why the fuck would anyone PAY a monthly subscription only for the game to tell you to wait to play.
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How would you guys classify PotD floors 150 and up? Casual, midcore, or hardcore?
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>>383705220
Gloomcore.
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>>383704095
>>383704387
>>383704769
>tfw fresh out of uni and waiting on job applications but playing all day makes me feel like worthless shit
The fuck am I supposed to do with my time?
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>>383705220
Postnerf, midcore.
Solo? Super Savage.
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>>383704914
god forbid we actually discuss a videogame
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>>383705220
Midcore for sure now that sustain potions exist.
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>>383705494
Exercising, reading books. Unplug.
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>>383704095
>>383704387
I've been playing non-stop since it came out because stinky NEET and I am still not burnt out.

I just vary my activities up.
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>>383705494
>The fuck am I supposed to do with my time?
should have been networking while you were in uni, you could have had a job before you graduated.
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>>383705494
You're probably a programmerfag so read some interview books
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>>383704387
I played casually the first week and got two jobs leveled and geared because Susano and Lakshmi are the easiest primals in the game, and theres nothing to do besides login for roulettes to gear jobs I don't play for the sake of completionism.
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who are some girls that are in need of tender love and care?
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>>383705858
Im not the type of person to do trivial, pointless activities for the sake of it. Its not what I would pay a sub for.
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>>383703116
That's a feel I know all too well, my friend. Except I'd want him to take charge
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>>383705749
I suppose I saw this coming.

>>383705889
I attended job fairs and a mock evaluation exercise where I led the team and proved competent. The companies don't even send people that have the power to offer you a job, they're just there to shill.

>>383705950
Chemical engineer.

Sorry about blog. Worth bumping thread.
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>>383706707
Dont make excuses. You're supposed to have done multiple internships before graduation. Its more important than GPA sad to say. 99% of jobs are so piss easy they dont even need the degree in the first place, so they just want to see how you work.
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>>383706638
That's my post you are posting there.
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>>383706861
>You're supposed to have done multiple internships before graduation.

Some universities don't just care. My friend's professor kept tasking his students with projects that benefitted him in his corporate job. He was literally selling their projects to the corporation he worked for. The students didn't have any time for a job because of that.

The one I attended, I had a professor that prepared you for an actual real job and made you actually get internships or paid jobs in exchange for less projects.
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>>383706675
I think you might be confusing burnout with boredom, then.
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>>383705494
>The fuck am I supposed to do with my time?

Work...?

You know they have all kinds of freelance shit you can do in your spare time for money right? It's not full time but you can make some extra cash with it.
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>>383706861
>99% of jobs are so piss easy they dont even need the degree in the first place, so they just want to see how you work.
This is the issue right here. I know for a fact I was one of the most competent on my course since they kept throwing us into groups for projects, but I haven't been able to demonstrate this to a potential employer. If I could just get my foot in the door I can't go wrong. BUT HOW THE FUCK DO I DO THAT?
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>>383705494
>fresh out of uni and waiting on job applications
You were supposed to apply for jobs a year before getting out of uni my dude
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>>383696639
>STR tanks do it for damage, not enmity.
It was for both, holding aggro is very easy with the strength rings.
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>>383707460
This.
One time I forgot to put STR back on after joining a group, and I was confused why I had trouble holding aggro.
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>>383707226
Maybe they should provide more meaningful content at launch instead of pushing it all back to 4.1 and 4.2. They're already bleeding subs as it is.
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>>383699496
fucking 3.0's content was designed around tank and healer dps
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>>383703116
>>383706689
>tfw lalafell with a big interest in femroes
If XIV was like SAO or something I'd be banging femroes all day
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I need a bunch of company seal to rank up so i can do hunts, where is the best place to farm?
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>>383707839
You can do A/S hunts without unlocking the function.

As for early game seal farming, roulettes I guess.
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>>383707839

buy ilvl 205 pvp gear and convert it to company seals
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I started playing a few days ago as MRoe WMH. I wish I could glamour gear before level 50, I really like the glasses' model, but all the ones I have are low level gear.
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>>383707839
Need/greed all dungeon loot and hand in.
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>>383707815
>I'd be banging femroes all day
you could be right now, it's called ERP.
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>>383707360
Nothing stopping you from getting an internship now, even out of university - it's not like you're doing anything else right
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>>383707976
Trading in gear is locked to like 7th or 8th rank.
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>>383708102
>futaroes
no thanks
Besides only substantial femroe population is Balmung, and I like playing the game more than glamourwhoring and erping

>>383708135
>>383707839
Did you finish the hunting log for your GC?
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>>383707839
unlock all gathering and crafting classes.

Soak seals and exp with vendor stuff daily.
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>>383708135

well, shit

suppose you can try to find some fate trains in stormblood areas if you have a 60+

make sure you have your GC hunting log completed as well
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>>383707986
>MRoe
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>>383708258
Finally someone else who hates this retarded 12 year old futa (actually shemale) mary sue shit tier fetish.
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>>383708572
>/v/ so full of normies that they hate futa now
Can you faggots just leave?
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>>383708572
What the fuck does that have anything to do with mary sue? Why are you so unreasonably angry?
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>>383708102
>futa
Nothing is purer than a male Lala having his way with a normal Femroe
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>>383708638
>faggots

ironic insult there friend
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>>383708638
In this game every "female" might as well be a futa it's fucking tiresome.
I wanna find a femroe grill who's been raised as a warrior and doesn't know a single clue about love and lovemaking, and slowly teach her those things with one of the first sex acts being missionary while holding hands
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>pick up my relic questline from where i left off
>its the light step
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>>383708638
Futa is an entry level fetish for 12 years olds m8. Futanari should mean that the character has both a dick and a cunt, but instead it's just a massive fucking dick now. Underages love to call it futa to deny their own homosexuality of liking big dicks. They self insert themselves sucking off a big dick or getting fucked, but it's not gay as heck because they're futas and biologically female (they're both).
I'm bisexual myself and I find this immature shoving away of blame just straight up dumb
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>>383709096
>pick up my HW relic quest
>it's collect 10 items of each of those 4 shitty fucks
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>>383708638
Futa is a normie/entry-level fetish, though.
If you really like cute 2D girls with cute 2D dicks like a true patrician weeb, you would go after boypussies, tomgirls and other superior tags.
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>>383708473
I mean, I like the idea of the healer being a strong dude like the D&D cleric, instead of the stereotypical cute anime girl or trap, fuck you healslut memers. I tried to nail the old monk look for my MRoe WHM and I think it fits it pretty well. The glasses especially look good on him.
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>>383709303
Still doesn't change the fact it's gay and I like girls.
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>When 3 dragoons dragon sight you as MNK
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>>383704095
Omega Savage is the only thing keeping me playing.
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>>383695078
wait, is this actually happening? how?
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>>383709654
They added extra rewards to leveling roulette so everyone is jumping on the tank bandwagon.
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>>383698557
>But then tanks wouldn't lose damage from dying!
If the tank dies you usually have far, far bigger problems than him potentially doing less damage.
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>>383699539
Laksmhi is so fucking easy. Literally no excuse
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>>383709719
They did? I'm not noticing anything.
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>be pld
>suishi
>whm
>sam
>nin
>pull big
>not die
>dps are not goading anyone
>ask for goad
>dead silence
>tell them about goad before the boss
>they are just targeting the boss with their weapons out
>pull really big because whm said go
>4 groups after the first, but before the second boss
>zero goads
>we all die from lack of TP
>get votekicked
I always wondered why tanks were so rare, now I know
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>>383699496
Because I've mastered tanking and want to push myself further. Why won't you shitters understand?
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>In leveling dungeon
>WAR tank with 270 str accessories
>He keeps getting blown up
WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE WARS
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>>383709654
Leveling roulette now gives VI materias to adventurers in need. Everyone is farming it as tanks because of the upcoming savage raid, so sometimes the roulette runs out of DPS and healers.
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>>383709878
>"""mastered"""
>fail the basic lesson that YOU ARE A FUCKING TANK
please please kill yourself already
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>>383709860
Goad has nothing to do with you dying.
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What's BIS for SAM?
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>>383709880
Str meme is so stupid. Your dps gain is barely anything in return for losing 10k of your hp
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>>383709961
>all dps cant attack
>fight goes on too long
think before posting please thank you very much
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>>383709596
More like Omega Sewage
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>>383709958
Tanking isn't about taking the least damage possible for as long as possible. You only need to mitigate enough to survive and hold aggro, and then focus on damage.
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>>383709880
they're angry that they're the worst tank now
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anyone else got DC?
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>>383710006
>20%
>barely anything
Really flows my aether.
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>>383709992
Level 1 armor and still outdpsing all other dps of course
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>>383709937
Is it only one time Leveling until reset? or can I basically spam it it?
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HOW THE FUCK DO I MAKE MONEY AS A BOTANIST
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>>383710097
level carpenter and weaver

craft
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>>383710045
>implying DPS matters anymore
The days of Pepsiman are long over.
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>>383710021
>WHM can kill entire packs themself in Shisui
>NIN doesnt need goad
>You dont need goad, each pull you'll have enough to still do like a dozen fucking total eclipse while holding enmity with flash and self healing
>Only person who 'needs' goad would be the SAM who should still have enough to kill any pack before they run out

You were playing with shitters, goad or not.
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>>383709596
this. the fucking end game is dog shit.
cant wait to beat this shit raid in a few weeks and finaly unsub
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>>383710041
That's a nice bird picture, mind if I save it?
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>>383710213
the conversation ended before your post so you might as well delete your post now because i didnt read it

you are dismissed if that was not clear enough
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>>383710071
Not sure, I just do it once a day because I hate that roulette.

>>383710097
Open the marketboard and see what is selling fast.
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>>383710223
i saved it from another thread like 30 minutes ago
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>>383710268
I bet this sounded way cooler in your head.
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>>383710173
Good point, time to reroll a SAM and do 2k DPS.
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>>383710173
Is that why the group I had hit susano enrage 3 fucking times?
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>>383710331
I didn't even know there was a enrage. Did your team mates die like 50 times
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>>383710331
Your DPS sucked fucking dick. Not even 20% more tank damage would have saved you from an enrage.
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>>383709860
lel you can just spam holy spirit while you gain some tp

i bet you were a passive aggresive fuck when all of this happened, i kick faggots like you all the time as well
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>>383710071
You can spam it.
Also DPS adventurer in need is bullshit, at least on my server.

t. Tank spamming for Direct Hit and Strength materia.
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>>383710430
dr
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>>383710158
>mfw leveling Weaver from 60 to 70
Pull the trigger, piglet
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>>383710331
When someone says "DPS doesnt matter" they mean "DPS shouldnt matter in the sense that if the DPS players are playing reasonably well then there wont be a need to minmax healer and tank dps to meet enrages." In reality, apparently people can't even play their jobs at a decent level when you see people doing less than 2k at level 70.
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>>383709303
>tomgirls
Stop using this fucking word in relation to porn. It's from fucking CWC. You faggots need to stop tagging my trap porn with this disgusting word.
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if direct hits are pretty much mini crits, why not just go for the real crits?
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>>383710606
I bet you also think that CWC invented the word "autism".
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>>383699496

Because you're fucking garbage and play sub-optimal DPS so I have to compensate if we want to do a 15 minute run
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>>383710635
direct hit stat has greater weight per % increase
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>>383710635
DH scales better than crit right now
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>>383710559
they are the easiest crafts to level up

>get material with botanist
>spam the leves where you can complete 3 times with a single one
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>>383710410
2 dps and the off tank kept fucking up the thunder cloud and it was hitting all of us
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>>383710071
Spam it nigga.

>>383710173
Hopefully it'll start in the reverse of HW, creator difficulty being first, then the last raid tier being between Gordias/Midas.

>>383710559
Be a botanist

>>383710635
Direct Hits happen more often than Crits, and when they both happen at the same time it's big dick damage.

>>383710606
Tomgirls is an older word than CWC kiddo, just less used than tomboy because being a tomgirl is shameful.
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>>383710635
>only stack Crit
>game rolls for crits only once
>stack Crit and DH
>game rolls once for Crit and once for DH
It isn't rocket science why you'd want both.
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>>383710718
>>383710778
Tomgirl was never tagged on any trap porn until about a year or two ago when CWC made it popular again. Fuck off with this shit.
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>>383710778
They will never make another Gordias unless they wanna lose whats left of the playerbase. Designing content strictly for the 1% is retarded.
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>>383710778
>Spam it nigga.
Time to get that free VI Materia.
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>>383710889
I said in between the two, that doesn't mean making it exactly the same difficulty as Gordias.
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>>383709149
Can confirm, I loved beating off to futa back when I was 12 (15 years ago). Now I find it boring as fuck. Especially with how futa w/ balls somehow became the standard when futa was originally just hermaphrodite shit.
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>>383710756
>>383710761
>>383710778
>>383710806
>when they both happen at the same time it's big dick damage
this explains my red mage
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>>383710635
Direct hits are more frequent, and the scaling of frequency vs potency is tipped in DH's favor.
It's like the sword that hits for 150% damage vs the sword that hits for 200% damage 50% of the time.
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>>383710853
>CWC made it popular again
>CWC making anything popular
That faggot is irrelevant outside of 4chan memes, his wiki and your fucked up mind that can't stop thinking about him while fapping to gay porn.
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>concerned about tank HP pool
>lock STR accs
What the fuck they are doing?
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>>383710778
Can't wait for Alt Right savage, I can see his mechanics being fucking awful when they actually matter
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>>383710778
>Be a botanist
Kill yourself faggot. Being a botanist doesn't save you from this piece of shit that litters every new higher end recipe. For the first fucking time I've had to actually send out my fucking retainer every hour so I can get it to 67 so this stops being a bothersome piece of shit.
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>>383711182
Getting rid of EXTREME DPS DISPARITY.
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>>383711126
>CWC starts calling himself a tomgirl
>a year later suddenly every bit of trap porn is tagged with tomgirl
Surely just a coincidence!
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>>383710971
>like futa
>90% of futa is comically large penises that could not possibly exist
Is it too much to ask for normal sized futa? Is this stockholm syndrom? Is it the same artists making the impossibly giant cock art or is it a culture now?
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>>383710559
>go to kugane levequests
>accept the level 60 or level 62 leves
>cross the bridge to the market
>go the NPCs
>buy the levequest item in bulk at 15k~ a pop
>deliver enmasse over and over
>for 1 million gil you just leveled from 60-65
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>>383711242
Kill those mobs if you're so annoyed then.

>>383711216
liberally who????
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>>383711242
Out of topic, what class should i make my retainer?
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>Change weakness for some reason
>Fuck your system you had in HW that worked well

Lol
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>>383711452
Combat? Whatever you play, since they can't be higher than you.
Unless you want to dress them up in clothes of a particular class.
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>>383711452
Don't bother with DoW/M classes. Pick one crafter and one gatherer if you have the basic two.
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>>383711390
>kill 10 of them
>get maybe 3

Meanwhile you need fucking 6 of each of them to make a single fucking dawn serge and you need 2-3 depending on what you're crafting. Fuck you.

>>383711452
I have a botanist, a miner, and a PLD retainer. I main PLD so that's why I went with it. You should do the same for whatever "hunting" class you want to give it.
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>>383711483
>change something
>a week passes and community is split in two
They're going to turn this back into something similar. If not we just kick up another shitstorm.
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i hope none of you are planing to unsub from my game. next week we have great content coming that will enertain you for the next 3 months until 3.1. dont let your sub lapse.
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>>383711483
What's wrong with the new weakness?
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>>383711634
Thank you, Yoshi-san. You are beacon of hope in an otherwise gloomy world.
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>>383711567
Don't listen to this dumbass. You're better off getting a hunting one because it's easier to gather shit yourself with MIN/BOT as opposed to skins and furs
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>>383711634
Oh boy i can't wait for Void Ark!
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>>383711657
They changed STR, DEX, INT and MND from 15% to 25%, but you don't lose VIT now.
So they had to remove VIT damage scaling for tanks.
They also locked tanks out of new STR accessories.
So some people wear old, i270 STR now.
And other people don't like this.
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>>383711634

Come over to WoW where you have only two actual boss fights out of 6 and those get nerfed within 2 months, while you wait for the next piece of content in 6 months.
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>static recruiting: BRD
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>>383711827
Oh, so it's tied to the "muh damage" thing.
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>>383711827

>When in the next patch they make it retroactively applied that tanks can't use old STR accessories
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Go into a Susano,WAR/DRK has almost 10k less health than me because he took 270 ACC
>>You MT, HG the first Stormsplitter please
>"Fine, please take shirk"
>>But shirk is shit
>Okay then.
I pull, we make it passed swords. He dies to a storm splitter even when I Intervention him. This keeps happening.
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Anyone else getting 90ks or is my internet just shit?
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>>383712164
You live on the east coast?
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>>383712164
servers are getting DDOS'd again. check the launcher or server message of the day when you login
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>>383712046
That'd be shitty but honestly better than current situation. It'd make holding aggro and getting good parses more dependant on decent co-tank.

>>383712102
I'd just tell whoever is the leader to kick this retard as he has no idea what he's doing.
If you don't have Shirk, you don't deserve STRmemes.
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>>383712225
Yep.
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>>383711306
It's all about commissions and whatever is popular with that tag. If people want to buy oversized dicks, you gotta sell oversized dicks, no time for other sizes or styles. This shit happens with every popular fetish.

>>383711256
Really anon, you really need to stop thinking about CWC. Most people don't even know that he exists (or "still exists").
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>>383711634
He said he thinks you should play when big content updates arrive, in the mean time, go play other stuff or spend time with your family. He said it's totally okay when people take breaks. He literally said that.
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>>383712268
I swear it's because of the fucking server move.I get this shit far too often now. At first it WAS my internet, but now it's not and I'm still getting 90k'd. Shit's getting really annoying.
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>>383712258
Why do STR tanks need shirk? Non tank player here
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>>383712102
>shitter tank that still relies on his shirk crutch
kys
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>>383712392

They moved the servers and we've seen literally zero benefit from it.
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>>383712164
West coast here, getting disconnected and experiencing massive lag over every little action.
Servers are getting buttfucked for sure.
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>>383712392
Plenty of 90k shit in EU too. I
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>>383712421
I assume because if the MT wants to swap to DPS stance after pulling, they'd lose aggro to the STR tank
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>>383712421
Shirk gives the other tank 25% of enmity, no reason to not take it because it makes the tank swaps easier, and the other CR options are only useful in dungeons - Anticipation is shit all around desu.
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>ddos starting again
BLIZZARD I KNOW YOUR GAME IS SHIT BUT
FUCK
OFF
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>>383709860

This is unironically your fault. If you know they aren't goading, or listening to you, why on earth would you push AoE to the limit? It's their fault for not helping the run faster, but it's your fault for taking bad tank decisions knowing you had a subpar team to begin with.
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>>383712164
Last night at like 1 AM. Gilgamesh completely shat itself
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>>383712421
All tanks should use Shirk because it's simply a great skill.
Your alternatives are a 30% parry buff, crit prevention with 20% uptime, stun/silence, and ultikekum.

Basically, I believe that STR accs are fine, but only if you're a good player who knows what he's doing. And not having Shirk is a red flag.
Which is why I think pushing the STR meme is bad. Good players know why STR is better. What's the point of convincing shitters to do that? Reducing clear rates?
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>>383712642
Pretty sure that was the entirety of aether that shat itself.
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>>383712587
wowfags are getting mad that ffixv is now #2 most popular mmo sub on reddit
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Wait why are people calling shirk shit?

>Flawless tank swaps

The fuck? What else are you going to take thats better?
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>>383712809
Dude just do your aggro combo, ecks dee.
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>>383712809
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>>383712808
their game has been dying for a while, turns out the diablo 3 team really is a joke, not to mention the lead guy is a fucking lawyer
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>play dps
>end with like 2+ commendations every time
>no idea what im even doing, equivalent to slamming my face on the keyboard during duties

what the fuck?
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>>383712726
>exdeath
>PLD
>prepare for the thunder swap
>accidentaly Shirk the healer
>they both die
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>>383712980
bard? Or maybe mch and they feel bad?
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>>383712997
>prepare for the thunder swap
>not just Covering when the next Thunder is about to tear MTs anus apart
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>>383712997
/ac "Shirk" <2>
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>>383712906
>increase my parry
L O L
O
L
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>>383713138
copy paste this 14 times too
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>>383712906
who
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>>383713151
Dude, it's like 5% damage reduction! Healers are gonna love you for this!
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>>383712997
muh flawless tank swaps
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>>383713201
I'm lurking a discord of an FC I don't belong to(I know the leader though) and this is coming from a "tank main".
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>>383713386
Wouldn't a VIT tank have trouble holding aggro though?
Oh wait I forgot you can just use aggro combo, I feel like a noob now.
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>>383713042
I play NIN
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>>383713448
You shouldn't use the aggro combo at all is the deal, no reason not to.
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Stop using STR rings
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>>383713504
I was being sarcastic.
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>>383703116
Server?
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>>383713557
my bad
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>>383712980
As long as you don't stand in aoes I consider you a good dps and commend them.
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GREAT FUCKING SERVERS YOU NIP HACKS
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>>383712980
Probably a premade and the healer or other dps was shit
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>>383712980
I only commend healers and when they suck, my vote goes to none.
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>>383712980
As a tank main
>is the healer DPSing? commend healer
>is the DPS doing something exceptional? commend DPS
>if neither apply, commend the least drooling retard
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>spent too much time in PVP and keep fucking up my PVE routine
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>>383713190
dumb question but why?

I don't use too many macros.
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>>383713386
i mean he's probably not wrong if you don't need to tankswap and you're the mt but i'm pretty sure he got there accidentally
plus there's absolutely no reason not to take it as ot 100% of the time
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>We're going to the far east!
>Lyse tags along
FUCK OFF NOBODY LIKES YOU, YOU AUTISTIC BITCH
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>>383713913
I hate Lyse but at the same time I would fill all of her holes.

Yotsu still the very best.
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>>383713991
I think because of how macros work in this game and the skill queuing.
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>>383713913
I know that feeling.
I've gotten so used to how SAM combo buttons are all one button each in pvp or how the rush move works differently I fuck it up constantly when I try to pve again.
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I want to marry Lyse.
More haters means less competition.
Let me marry her Square.
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>>383714000
or in an organized group for the spicy provoke shirk double swap for a huge emnity gain in the space of 5 seconds
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>>383712541
>>383712551
>>383712726
i still dont get it, considering only 2 out of 4 tank swaps on cooldown are going to be affected by shirk and you still have to know how to do normal tank swaps. whats wrong with provoke + one emnity move in tank stance that shirk needs to help. is it to help gear disparity?
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>>383699496
Because I get bitched at if I don't and squeenix clearly is designing around it?
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>>383714097
I feel like if this was a normal single player FF game, Lyse would have been the default love interest girl.
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>WoL goes through Ala Mhigo and defeats Zenos twice
>Lyse acts like the big hero at the cutscene

FUCK OFF
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>>383714210
>+ one emnity move in tank stance
Provoke + shirk means no need to go into tank stance/use an enmity combo.
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>>383714097
Yotsuyu is shit, bitch should have stayed dead
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>>383714189
>>383714000
I did a Susano where after the initial pull the DRK dropped grit and I stayed in Sword Oath the entire time. I shirked him in the first phase and ever since we never lost aggro. This was a pug, too. That seems worth it to me.
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>>383713991
Macros don't have action queueing.
If you try to use a weaponskill like half a second before your GCD is up, it'll go off once it's ready.
Similar thing happens with abilities, once animation lock for one is over, the queued ability will go off.
Macros can't do that. If you just have a normal shirk macro, it'll only work if you aren't in an animation lock.
Each macro line has like 0.05-0.1 delay by default, so you can create bootleg queueing by copy pasting the action multiple times.
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>>383714210
>allows MT to tank/pull in DPS stance
that's all the reason you need
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>>383714270
What, would you want to be the one stuck leading the Mhiggers now?
Being the lizard king/queen is a much better deal, let Lyse have her shit country.
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>>383714270
This holy shit the Almiggers don't do shit the entire expansion included Lyse. At least Hien recognizes they would have been fucked without you.

I missed Aymeric.
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>>383714210
On Susano, tank swaps happen every 65 or so seconds.
Therefore, you can Shirk each time it's your turn to go from MTing to OTing.
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>lagging
>cant help but be a faggot and say za warudo when my character gets rubberbanded and i take all types of hits from aoes before my inevitable death
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>>383714341
No.
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>>383714396
>>383714421

They literally don't even mention that you fucking killed a super powered Zenos controlling a powerful primal

After you win its just like "oh u ok" then it cuts to Lyse stealing the scene
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>>383714335
>>383714382
>>383714436
but the ninja can do that instead
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>>383714270
But it's all right when that stupid cunt Minfillia did it right
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>>383700606
Tenacity is fucking garbage and literally anything is better. SS is better because you can hit that threshold where you get an extra GCD or two into FoF. Tenacity is literally 5% more damage/mitigation if you stack as much of it as is possible to have on a gearset ATM (which requires using fucking leveling gear)
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>>383714180
>Can't marry Hien and dote on him, bringing him tea as he plans the future of a freshly liberated country
I never thought much of FFXIV male characters, liked Aymeric as a friend but there's just something about Hien.
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>>383714530
>ywn watch Yotsuyu get pummeled by falling debris smashing her face in
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>>383714210
You never really swap "on cooldown". No fight ever requires swaps to be made that quickly, and if you're doing voluntary swaps to maximize tank cooldowns you can just do them when someone has a Shirk available.

The real benefit is that every time you do a Provoke-Shirk combo, the total enmity of the tank instantly goes up by 25%, which makes it grow exponentially as the fight goes on, meaning that you never have to worry about a healer or DPS catching up.
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>>383714594
Not every group has ninja.
And why not have shirk on top of ninja?

>>383714631
Tenacity is pretty much 90% of determination in terms of attack boost. It's shit to meld unless you're world progging, but it's nowhere near as trash as parry was, and you don't need to autistically avoid it on every piece.
At least, that's what I've read recently. Shit changes all the time.
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does anyone mention how you killed the fucking next step up from bahamut in the story?

like what the fuck where's my recognition
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>>383714594
not every party will have a Ninja. Every party will have two tanks who can take Shirk
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>>383714594
Shadewalker is good for intro pull/putting the 2nd tank at #2 in Lakshmi, but Shirk is on allows more levity between the two tanks, and is instant, where Shadewalk is enmity over time with each action.
If you're pugging you might not have a NIN
there is no reason to not use it.
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>>383712587
People don't actually believe this do they? You don't really think Yoship is telling the truth that the game is being doxed? He won't admit the servers weren't ready for this many players
>run commercials
>advertise on Carls Jr and Honeybuns and other shit
>surprised when so many people sub to the game
>claim its hackers
I mean when Legion came out it was doxed for about 2 weeks or so, but that's only because the Chinese version of the expansion comes out after the U.S.
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>>383714824
Yay, you killed a threat that could've ended the world. Again. Woo.
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>>383714824
That's why you talk to npcs inbetween objectives. You'll be amazed of all the stuff you miss. Also read journal entries
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>>383714869
>doxed
kid..............
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>>383714783
No, it's not even close to 90%. It's garbage, but technically it's not as dead of a stat as parry, it's just one you should avoid if it's at all possible.
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>>383714869
How can a videogame be doxed...
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>>383714783
>not every group has ninja
If the tanks are trying to tryhard maximize dps by using shirk+dps stance, they'll clearly have a fucking ninja too. It only makes sense.
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>>383714824
>killed Ultima
>stopped Bahamut a second time
>stopped Alexander
>stopped a Primal powered by the faith of all of Ishgard and the Warring Triad
>killed multiple lesser primals
oh wow you killed another primal, good for you
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>>383711381
Which DoH job has leves like that? Don't remember seeing any on wvr and ltw so far.
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>>383697968
You're braindead if you legitimately think this.
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>>383714869
>doxed
newfag and underage alert
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>>383715028
DDOS, how's that?
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>>383714631
Tenacity is fine. Comparing full-Tenacity to full-Direct Hit (or full anything that's pure DPS), you wind up doing like 2% less DPS in exchange for 6-7% permanent mitigation.

If you don't think that's a worthwhile tradeoff then you're either buying into memes or you only ever do easy content that you overgear.
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>>383714869
>doxed
if you're trying to sound smart and shit about how these things work at least know what the fuck you're spouting
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>>383714596

She never took credit for anything you did

Like, I would be ok if Lyse came out and said "I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you, thank you for everything you have done for me and my people" or some shit

Instead the most she says is shit like "you're a good friend" and then says she's leaving
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>>383714783
>>383714837
>>383714868
>unironically forming/joining pfs that don't follow The Meta
lmaoing my ass of @ ur lives
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>>383715037
>if you don't have minmax comp, you don't have a reason to play your job well
Come on.
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>>383715120
Two different things kiddo.................
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>>383715153
>She never took credit for anything you did
Not personally, but everything was "LOL THIS IS THANKS TO THE SCIONS" instead of acknowledging the fact that it was literally all you.
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>>383715134
>comparing fully building a stat that's on your gear vs. a stat you can only get via melding makes the one that lets you get 1k more come out on top
STOP
THE
FUCKING
PRESSES
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>>383714371
Ah okay I see.

Usually I just mash the macro button (have one for dragon sight) if it does not activate, but I will try this.
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>>383715085
Weaver, the post I was responding to, has leves like that. I bought the crafting chestpieces for level 60 leves and the healer belts for level 62 leves (much better exp/money ration). I don't know about the other crafters, weaver was my only crafter at 60 and it took me two hours and 2 million to get it to 70.
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>>383715176
I'm not there myself yet, but I do have a friend who gets orange parses in random PFs he join.
It's a shitty excuse.
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>>383710565
>Do v.3.0 last night
>Pour my heart into doing as much damage as I can as WAR, reach top of the meters.
>Everyone else has somehow failed to do more than 2.4k DPS.
>The BRD spent so much time dead, she has less DPS than the fucking limit break.
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>>383699496
I understand it to make playing more involved. Just tanking for tank is doing literal 1,2,3 rotation for enmity and sometimes maybe pressing a button that makes you take less damage.

Doing damage makes rotations more involved interesting and demanding resulting into better play experience.
The thing is, I don't think numbers matter here. For me tank (and healer) dps is all about what skills to use when and potential stance dancing, not about what numbers I have on which stats.

Some people seriously seem to talk like their optimal game had one "do damage" button and gear had one "+billion dps" stat on it, so they could mash that one button on one hand and masturbate on their big numbers with other.
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>>383714824
It got beatdown by omega already and was nowhere near calamity bahamut level of being fueled by aether for 1000s of years. Stronger than anything you've fought in the game so far probably, but its not on the level of bahamut or alex.
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>>383714995
Do you have an estimate figure, or did you just hear it's worse than crit/det and therefore you should take those instead, so you jumped to conclusions and think it's terrible?
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>>383715351
I mean that's pretty much BLM
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>>383709958

if the tank and healers are experienced enough to do their job while pushing extra DPS, they can significantly speed up a run = less tanking/healing needed, and of course, more items farmed/hr
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>>383714979
>>383715028
>>383715141
you're laughing now, but you won't be laughing when someone sends a swat team to the datacenter
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>He only has one 70

>Bot in PvP
>Level classes with zero effort
>Dump poetics into relic items every time I'm capped
>Easily get every material I need to get to light stage in about 10 minutes (- the dungeon runs)
>Bot light in PvP
>Easily get capped on verity
>Light takes just as long going from 60-70
>mfw I've been basically botting non stop since SB was released and SE will never do anything about it
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>>383715483
>shave off 10 seconds per successful run
>wipe at least three times in the process
Whoa...
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>>383715279

At least the scions were actively involved with you during all that shit

In SB its just you, alphinaud and alisaie coming up with plans and shit and then Lyse butts in and says OK LETS GOOOOO
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>>383699496
As long as hard enrage exists, healers will have to dps. Killing something faster is the best mitigation. You don't have to heal a mechanic if you push fast enough
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>>383714824
A primal is only as strong as the aether it is fed to summon it. Stats withheld, Shinryu was about as strong as Thordan, considering they were both summoned from the power of Nidhogg's eyes.
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>>383715578
the only useful thing they did was "help" with a few enemies in the first SB dungeon
after that, they were just doing shit
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>>383712726
>>383712997
Didn't realize the trolling potential of shrink
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>>383715578
it's actually implied that, at least after her clothes change, most of the stuff that took place was Lyse's idea. Like the final push.
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>>383715725
>accidentally put Smokescreen on Tank
>and Shadewalker on BLM
HW was an interesting time to be a NIN
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>>383715287
I'm comparing it point-for-point, you retard. If you meld full Tenacity compared to full anything else, that's the sort of numbers you get ~~~from the melds~~~.

However, now that you mention it, the damage reduction on Tenacity does seem to be a linear decrease in damage taking, which means that it gives accelerating returns in terms of eHP/survivability, so the fact that you're going to start off with some extra on your gear actually is a pretty big bonus.
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>>383715742

No that was entirely Raubahn and the alliance leaders
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>>383715578
>At least the scions were actively involved with you during all that shit

Nigga making you fight primals by your fucking self isn't helping
It's throwing you to the wolves and hoping you don't die
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>>383714869
>doxxed

This is what /v/'s become huh?
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>>383715742
which is dumb too since raubahn and the grand companies do most of the heavy lifting
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Weird question, but. The thing I enjoyed the most about WoW was goldmaking. Flipping shit, hoarding rare transmog items and finding niche market strategies. Would I enjoy FFXIV?
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>>383715541
Good for you, anon!
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Find a flaw that doesn't make you gay or Auracist.
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>>383715812
Nah she was involved. They say as much.
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>>383715871
Go out there and be the best jew ever
Play as a lalafell for full immersion.
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>>383715806
And like was said, nobody would meld Tenacity unless you're world progging.
Or if you have some inbetween gear and just want to meld some crap gear for cheap.

That's a good question, is Tenacity VI better than Direct V.
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>>383715806
Sorry, but you're wrong. I don't see anyone with tenacity melds anywhere near top parses. The fact is that your theorycrafting is bullshit and the real results is that direct hit gives better DPS returns.
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>>383715279
It was always like that, even after Minfilia's death. Most of the time only Alphy and a few other characters related to specific situations (Aymeric, Yugiri, etc) really recognized that you are the guy doing everything.
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>>383715942
Doesn't have a romance route.
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>>383715942
She wants to fuck Hien, not you.
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>>383715953

Where do they say that? From what I read it was all Raubahn and Pipin
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>>383715680
Should be twice as strong, there were two eyes. And it might be the eyes work better together for stronger summoning.

Or it could actually be really weak, because the eyes lost all their Aether after their use this time. I imagine summoning Thordan, super Nidhogg, and now Shinryu was pretty taxing.
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>>383710565
That's why I heartily laugh when people shit on jobs, MCH especially. I did all ex primals and omega as MCH in PF, more often than not outdpsing SAMs and RDMs. Most people don't do much over 2.5k dps. And that seems to be enough to clear. So I also laugh at meta fags too.
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>When you and the OT shirk each other
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>>383708638
sorry bout your safespace weeb
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>>383716070
Thordan had both eyes, you ding dong
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>>383715967
Do you mean top tank DPS parses, or top clear time parses? You should be looking at the latter, you know.
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>>383715680
I'm pretty sure Thordan was drawing on just one of Nidhogg's eyes, whereas Shinryu was made with both of them.

Nidhogg himself had both of his eyes when you fought him in Final Steps, but narratively speaking, you were also borrowing one of Hraesvelgr's eyes. Shinryu was all you.
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>>383716030
So? You are autistic as fuck when you don't realize that Hien is a better man than you are.
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>>383716070
Shinryu we fought is just a primal

Midgardsormor is the true shinryu in this game based off the omega story
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>>383704095
>People willingly signed up for an endgame that mimics HW release
I'll never fucking understand it. FFXIV is a fantastic themepark MMO and unless you are pushing savage with a good static there is zero fucking point in jumping in right at the start.

Smart people have figured out its best to resub on odd numbered patches so you aren't stuck with content that is lol just grind your roulettes for tomes bro!
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>>383716148
Shit, really? It's been so long I didn't remember. I thought Estinien had and eye and so did the Archbishop.
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>>383716054
This. They just say "go find a way into the mhigger district" and even then they couldn't have done it wihout Wiscar
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>>383716191
Last I checked he didn't slay primals. He didn't stop the world from ending multiple times. He ran like a coward and was willing to give up like a coward instead of fight.
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>>383716281
I might be remembering wrong actually
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>>383716148

No, he had the one in his sword nigger
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>>383715942
Shit twintails. I say this as a twintail lover
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>>383716030
Catch her when she falls.
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>>383716267
>mimics HW release
except it's only 3 months instead of 6
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>>383715942
>magnai says his ideal wife is an ethereal woman that walks in the mist
>yugiri's surname is mistwalker
really gets the noggin' joggin'
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>>383716281
>>383716325
Estinien had an Eye, and Thordan had two.
Two eyes of Nidhogg, and one of Vidofnir.
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>get to max
>decide to try a profession class
>go botonist
>loving the fucking shit out of it, don't even want to do combat anymore
This is an autism thing isn't it?
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>>383715967
Top parses on a piss-easy primal that doesn't need any real healing and barely needs mitigation aren't indicative of shit.

Susano and Lakshmi are so pathetically undertuned that they do less damage than fucking normal mode Omega.

Of course 1% extra damage is going to beat a sizable amount of mitigation in a fight that can be healed by having Eos fart on you once or twice. That's not going to be the case in Savage, even if it is tuned to be Creator-tier in difficulty.
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>>383716301
PLOT armor doesn't make you a good character. Also you don't want to save anything, you are just a beta bitchboi following orders.
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>>383716070
Thordan got the second eye from his ancestor's coffin, and it's having the two eyes together that made estinien lose control.
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http://archive.is/it5IA

>people complaining about shinryu
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>>383696215
I already am. I never understood this strength tank meme. Why the fuck you big pull mobs with less HP than a DPS?
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>>383716403
>Vidofnir
wat
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>>383716397
I'll give you that but it doesn't mean that my point is any less diminished. Its better to wait rather than burn through all of the content in 2 weeks and be stuck waiting around for 3 months for anything decent to show up.
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>>383716484
Or whatever the dragon is called that shagged Shiva.
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>>383715942
eyebrows way too thick
looks like a dopey fish
is literally a dopey fish
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>>383716403
you mean Ratatoskr? I thought Thordan I and his knights just ate her eyes.
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>>383716472
>dungeons
You do you Anon, big boys are talking though.
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>>383715942
She wants to separate sun and moon.
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>>383716431
>creator tier difficulty
does that mean hard
i heard alexander was hard
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>>383716608
big boys doing what? omega normal mode and easier extreme primals than bismarck and ravana?
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THORDAN HAD ONE FUCKING EYE IN HIS SWORD

ESTINIEN HAD THE OTHER WHEN HE KILLED THE FAKE NIDHOGG

AT THE END OF 3.0 ESTINIEN PICKS UP THE OTHER ONE AND TRANSFORMS INTO REAL NIDHOGG
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>>383716645
Gordias was FUCK OFF static-killing hard
Midas was slightly less hard but still hard
Creator was pretty easy.
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>>383716619
Why hasnt anyone drawn hein taking giant cirina au ra dick yet
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>>383716148
No, he only had the one that was buried with Haldrath. He also absorbed Lahabrea.
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>>383716525
That was Ratatoshkr's eye. Hraesvalgr gave one of his eyes to Nidhogg wich then Estinien returned.
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>>383716510
If you're only getting around to doing MMO content when all the good players can do the fights with their eyes closed, and the only people left who haven't cleared are literally retarded, and both the good and bad players outgear the fight by miles, you really shouldn't bother at all, and just go play some other game instead.

Content in an MMO like this ages like milk. The only time it's ever fun is when it's fresh.
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>>383716649
>easier than bismarck
let's not go crazy here
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>>383716418

crafting and gathering is pretty zen-like until you hit 50 and have to deal with timed hidden nodes, scrips, and other assorted bullshit
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>>383695078
>Friend tries to pressure me to resub and play with him
>Warn him that he'll be bored of it in a week because lol XVI endgame
>Complains a few weeks later that he has nothing to do
When will people learn,
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>>383716649
If that shit is so easy why do you need your VIT crutch?
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>>383716734
Because not everyone is a massive faggot
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>>383716418
Same thing happened to me, professions are a really nice change of pace in this game. I like how they have their own skills and rotations.
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>>383716464
How the fuck do people reach 70 and not get basic ass fucking mechanics. Like they even increased visual aid since ARR for them and they still don't fucking get it. It's gonna get nerfed, but it shouldn't. It should be a lesson to fucking shitters who made it to 70 to get their shit together and learn how to play.
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Earned 2mil a day selling savage aim materias

gonna buy a big fat house in shirogane
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>>383699304
>tank mentions it in our party
>am MNK
>say yeah it sucks seems pointless
>lala DRG reees about tank not being DPS

Why do lalas and DRGs have to live up to the memes every single time?
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>>383715964
Tenacity is something like 65-70% (give or take) the effectiveness of Direct Hit when it comes to DPS.

Tenacity VI at 40 Tenacity is going to be significantly stronger than Heaven's Eye V at 12 Direct Hit.
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>>383708351
Maelstrom for life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0jG42WA3fw

Can we all agree that 3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0
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>>383708351
I want to marry R'ashaht Rhiki!
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>>383716798
its easy if you have trustable healers.
good luck with that in duty finder
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>>383717068
No
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>>383716764
I'd agree with you if this wasn't FF14. There are no hard fights, you don't even need the gear to push unless savage or a Static to get anything done and the playerbase is quite literally the most retarded out of all MMO's.

You only miss out if you could have a good static pushing fights. Even then due to the nature of 14's endgame it turns into a log on for the raid, log off for the week or only on to do dailies.

If an entire MMO(especially 14) only matters to you when doing the fights day one, you have serious issues. This is the least noteworthy MMO around for raiding or dungeons.
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>>383715554

I haven't played since the beginning of 3.0 when I had to quit XIV due to other obligations, but the sch + me pushing extra DPS on t10 reduced run times by ~25%
It wasn't hard to push extra DPS without increasing danger to oneself, I simply had Shield Oath up on crit rips (or when people fucked up mechanics to give the healers time to recover) since incoming damage to tanks is otherwise relatively low
11 and 12 are more tricky, but I was still able to stance dance there
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>>383716418
Near the end of HS I stopped running dungeons completely unless I needed the tomes for crafting gear. I get more enjoyment out of crafting stuff and wearing them with my name on it then clearing an EX trial. Also the another anon was bitching about scrips but I find that just as enjoyable.
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Why are lalas always undoubtedly the worst, insufferable, toxic and most asshole NPCs and players in the game
Especially the male lalas
femlalas are ok
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>>383716764
Only good if you have a static.
>Only people left who haven't cleared are literally retarded
You mean 99% of the playerbase? Cause XIV's playerbase is ridiculously retarded. Gearing is also a nonissue outside static so that point means nothing.

But hey, whatever mental gymnastics you have to go through to justify a subscription to an endgame with nothing to do.
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>>383714869
most obvious underage ive ever seen
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>>383716464
This legitimately pisses me off. If you can't do Shinryu, there's no reason for you to advance to harder parts of the game until you can. Even if you're just abysmal and can barely operate a keyboard, you should still at least have the social skills to befriend some people who can carry you through. Or just wait until everyone overgears the fight so much that its no longer a problem.

It's difficult, and it makes lesser players cry until they man up and get good enough to do it. It's exactly what an endboss should be.
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>>383717129
Yeah Duty Finder could be dangerous, been doing random Party Finder a lot though, and only had problem with one healer.
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>>383717067
Literally who?
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Finally made it to floor 200. Deep PotD is a fucking ride.
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>>383707460
If you can't hold aggro you are just a shitter full stop. I never use the emnity combo and I don't use the retard rings.
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>tfw I fantasia'd too much
I am now unhappy with all options and can't like any character anymore

;_;
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>>383710213
The fuck are you talking about, SAM and PLD can both go TP empty real fucking easily in a large pull or even just 2 pulls back to back, and SAM should be blowing all the TP as fast as possible to kill something like the 4pack pull in Shisui so the tank doesn't drop dead.
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>>383717410
It's absolutely ridiculous, to be honest. Just like when Dragon's Neck was nerfed I couldn't fathom why. How bad did a person have to be to fail that? And even if you fucked up it was so easy to cheese too.
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>>383717332
>Only good if you have a static.

Don't play this game if you don't, because it's shit from top to bottom if you aren't on a half-decent team.
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>>383717272

>tfw you examine someone and they're wearing something you crafted
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>just finished Xelphatol
>DRK is already halfway to 65 just from dailies and MSQ dungeons
Christ I'm gonna be 70 by the time I get to SB
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>>383715541
If only you'd get taken down for being a shitter.
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>>383717562
To be fair, people bitched and whined about Nidhogg and he never got nerfed
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>>383717192

No other MMO has production values for raids that are even remotely close to the same ballpark as FF14's. That's why this is the MOST noteworthy MMO for raiding. Sure, the raiding scene is far bigger in WoW, but the fights are just mashing buttons as hard as you can while watching coloured columns with numbers on them and hoping your current gear means the striking dummy that passes for a boss dies before you do. While listening to music on iTunes because the game's soundtrack is shit.
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>>383717528
>not using character creator and save presets
Fucking retard
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>>383717693
Nidhogg's "easier" though. Steps of Faith got neutered multiple times, for example.
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>>383717528
Go hyur like i did
clipping reduced by 80%
if you wanna have horns, you can equip succubus horns/ultima horns
if you wanna have cat ears, use tamamo headband
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>high GC PvP rank are actually rarely used and depending on your GC sound really cool
>too fucking ashamed of how god fucking awful Shames are in Frontlines now to use them
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>>383716764
I've tried to find a group to do minimum iLvl fights with, but the problem is everyone already knows the mechanics so extending the fight out with less DPS isn't an issue, or people don't want the challenge and disband after a couple of wipes. It's very, very difficult to find a group of people who are willing to fail while learning how to play on their own, everyone wants a guide to hold their hand.
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>>383717740
Steps got nerfed for a good reason though.
If you fucked up there, you couldn't just "wipe it". You had to sit through a 10 minute long autoscroller until you can try again.
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>>383717749
*titles
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>>383717192
I'd argue ESO has worse endgame pve.
And again, listen to Yoshi on how actually sees this game.
1. He doesn't want you to have the obligation log in every day because people are busy
2. He says it's totally fine to come back when content updates are up, when you're finished with it go play other games or spend time with your family

That's a pretty realistic and mature overlook imo. I guess he could institute some rng grind like Wow did. But I think his vision is totally fine.
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>>383717286
lalas are the most powerful race
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>>383717884
Autistic*
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>>383717636

you'll still hit the level wall at 68, presuming you don't do any sidequests
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>>383716464
The one comment makes a good point, change it so you gotta do the level 70 job quest to do the fight. Lost track how many times I see assholes without their AF gear in lv68 gear trying to run expert and shit.
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I know this is random as fuck but where does one get the gaelicat hat
I've googled everywhere and I've seen people with it but I can't find where to get it
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>>383717884
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>>383717739
I have about 30 presets, whatever do you mean?

>>383717746
yeah, it's definitely a consideration. Currently giving fem highlander a try for the first time, but I'm just not feeling it. I love the huge tits, but something about their faces...

I might just bite the bullet and buy a rename to go male character again, but everything feels so uninspired at the moment.
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>get on
>check MB
>Heaven's Eye VI selling for 250k
>by the time I run a leveling dungeon and trade the Cracked Cluster they're down to 230k for no fucking reason
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>>383717749
I'm trying to work up to finish Master Armorer as a title. It's grindy as fuck, but I think it sounds awesome.

I'd like it even more if I could tank dungeons in my Level 50 armorer or blacksmith set though. Should give you a glamourable version through a ridiculous achievement.
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>>383718034
>see people in Ala Mhigo without AF3 or better
>tell them to do their job quest so they can get gear and their last skill
>lol I don't bother with job quests, they suck
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>>383718092
This is why you do hunts instead.
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>>383717884
Look at that concentrated autism
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>>383718083
Go with fem midlander
the face looks better and the giant tits become less noticeable since most shit reduces breast size for whatever reason
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>>383717884
Lalas remind of Gnomes in Arcanum. Pray tell, is there any underground breeding pits?
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Why is the Lakshmi theme so great bros?
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>>383718054
>>383717967
they control eorzeas economy, lalas are used and respected in the grand company military, even a fucking potato has 1/4th power of the eorzean alliance and controls a city state.
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>that last trial
I see why people want that nerfed, but damn that was fun.
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>>383718228
So jews and autists?. Got it
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>>383716464
>got carried by people farming trial roulette that could clear with me and like two others on the floor
>never got it again in trial roulette unless it was a join in progress 40 minutes in and shortly abandoned
>still have no idea how to actually do the fight
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What the fuck is wrong with all of you losers
>the game doesnt get good until endgame
>endgame is fucking trash
>this game is fucking trash
>everyone is fucking trash
why the fuck do you play, why the fuck are you here?
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>>383718225
I prefer Sophia's
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>>383717792
Yeah, things would be different if people were willing to do stuff like that when there's no reward for it (not even really bragging rights because nobody gives a shit if you min-iLevel a year-old fight).

As it is, the only way that you really get the actual fun experience of learning and challenging yourself in this game without humping a guide the whole way (and even if you personally don't look at a guide, you're still having it ruined if everybody else in the group does) is if you have a good, solid group to play with, and you can do stuff on the first week, if not the first day.

If people want to say that that's retarded or that it makes FFXIV a bad game then I can't really refute that, but it's true. You're just not really getting to play the game properly if you aren't doing everything while it's fresh.
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>>383718218
this was my midlander

it's great on WHM, but I wanna main NIN ;_;
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>>383718358
Why are you here?
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>>383718228
Remember that because of money hungry lalas
they almost condemned eorzea to be fucking doomed because they accused you of murdering the sultana all for power/money
That explains why kugane is superior
not a single native lala to fuck up anything
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>>383718228
>Go to Kugane
>Huge trading city
>The ones who hold power the most are roes and hyurs
made me think
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>leveling SCH to 70
>holding out for a miracle on the 18th

send help senpai
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Direct hit or critical hit for black mages? FAST I NEED SOME (you)
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>>383718480
>not a single native lala to fuck up anything

Give it time.
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>>383718130
China can glamour all Hand/Land outfits to combat jobs, AF included.
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>>383718564
I think Spell Speed is your first priority, then DH. Might be wrong though.
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>>383718595
Fucking hell fuck square
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>>383718595
>cant glamour alc af for mad scientist glamour
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>>383701783
>citation needed
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>>383718564
Spell Speed > Direct Hit > Crit

Fucking seriously, you want fucking spellspeed. not only does it buy you the precious few seconds to not have enochian to drop, but to squeeze in as much dps per second squared as you move all the fucking time meanwhile red mages are stacking crit>DH and moving the fuck around all the time doing even more dps persecond than is to you.

fuck man, stack more spellspeed, dont let those fucking redcoats win
>>
>my rarest minion is one that's just bought for a middling amount of Wolf Marks
>actually rarer than the PvP drop that would require on average acquiring many many times that number of seals
Really makes you think
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>>383716431
Unless there is literally no way to survive tankbusters than to stack tenacity then nobody will do it. End of story. Direct is just strictly better. Not to mention Direct has a much more drastic effect on DPS than your piddly 0.2% more DPS from tenacity.
>>383716152
This is from speed rankings. Only from people who were on their tank when they logged out though, since all I can do is check lodestone.
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>>383717009
My last leveling run had a lv62 NIN that only did aeolian combo and assassinate. No mudras, no shadow combo, just these 4 buttons, got hit by all aoes and mechanics. Probably only plays NIN because DUOL WEIRD.
Retards simply don't want to learn shit, they just want to get carried to victory and masturbate to that later.
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WHAT MATERIA DO I USE AS A RED MAGE
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>>383718495
kugane isnt in eorzea and its rare to find lalas outside of eorzea
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>>383718752
Spell speed is a no brainer, thanks for that.
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>>383718876
are you a Bard or a BLM? No? DIRECT HIT
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>>383718876
crit
DH
det
Spellspeed isnt good since chaincast
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>>383718595
They have to buy them on cash shop to do that, though.
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>people falling for the direct goyim meme
I know Dervy, it's actually bad and they're pushing that meme to make easy gil off of retards.
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>>383718505
I've leveled PLD and am leveling BRD right now just in case they leave SCH as the unoptimized mess it currently is. If they're going to make AST any more OP then I might just cave in and jump ship.
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How do I level as DPS now? Is PvP still broken?
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>>383718480
>implying tataru won't get impregnanted and spread her filthy midget children across doma
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>>383718595
>can never use the sick AF sets for glamour because class restrictions
>china can because they sold it for money

fucking hack
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>>383718761
It's the best minion too. It's cute and more than one are next to each other they line up and cheer.
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Thanks, Cactaur!
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>level all crafting classes to 50 so you can HQ stuff later
>that living hell trying to get them from 45-50
what the hell is this bullshit, why did it suddenly become like 100x harder to HQ stuff for leves
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>>383719012
China and Korea have separate development teams.
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>>383719027
>best minion
>anything but Morpho
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>tfw new to FFXIV
>level 29 lancer
Is there a reason nobody talks about certain classes like machinist etc? are they just bad, or are they just too new to have an opinion on
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>>383718876
DH > Crit > everything else
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>>383718876
Int > Crit > Direct Hit > Determination

Each attack there is a separate roll for Crits and Direct Hits, and they can overlap for some big ass 30k holy/flares.

Spell speed is neat, but with 30 second temp buff timers on all your procs, there is little need to squeeze out a half second quicker.
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>>383718879
Just pointing out how the best city so far in the game is one not controlled by potatoes
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>>383718595
Fucking Chinese, is there anything they don't ruin?
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>>383719110
MCH got fucked hard in SB. Twice as hard to play optimally for a fraction of the damage of the other classes.
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>>383718998
Do leveling roulette/ your highest lvl dungeon and fate grind in an area of comparable level to you. Twist of fate and the bonus exp fates make it well worth the time while queuing. Don't forget your +3% food bonus.
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>8v8 Feast
>other team has 2 DRK 1 WAR
>Stun, Unmend chained into Stun chained into Unmend
>"lol it's okay it's literally impossible to kill them because they have slightly less burst"
New PvP plays more fun to me but fuck if it is not balanced like absolute shit still
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>>383719110
There isn't much to say about them.
MCH is in a pretty bad spot, but "bad" is usually less than 10% difference between jobs.
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>>383719110
machinist is woefully weak for how mechanically complex that class is, it pulls the least dps yet has the most difficult rotation and a shit ton of stuff to keep track of
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>>383719201
>>383719110
MCH got fucked in 3.0
Became godlike in 3.5
Got fucked to oblivion in 4.0
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>>383719272
>10% difference between jobs.

its way worse than 10% difference for MCH.
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>BLM uses Between the Lines to zoom to his Ley Lines
>Mfw pull him away from them and back to me with Rescue
>Mfw pulling low health dps into aoe damage
>Mfw pulling people into Titan knockbacks and then dipping out as they fall to their death
>Anytime someone threatens to kick me or rage at me I just say that it was a simple mistake and to give me a break because I'm healing, which usually calms them down, so I'm literally untouchable
>Mfw trolling with Rescue in general

Literally the best skill they've ever added into this game, holy fuck. Playing a healer is fun again.
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>>383719110
Dragoons are old news, it was a popular job because plate + melee. Now that Samurai are a thing, everyone wants a fucking katana. does not make things easier that it is relatively easy to play.

MCH got fucked hard, its complicated, relies on RNG and flat out not very fun to play considering bards do more damage and so much simpler with the exact same team/raid support
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;_;7
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>>383719390
Just jump of a cliff and take the tank with you.
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>>383719149
potatoes have no influence on ishgard yet that place fucking sucked
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>>383719358
To Samurai? Yeah.
To Bard and Ninja, other supportish DPS? Nah.
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>>383718876
Pick between crit and direct hit like 90% of the rest. It really won't matter unless you're either running savage, in which case you would already know what to meld, or you just like to wank your dps meter in the dr.
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>>383719390
>ask for Goad in dungeon
>WHM Rescues me out of pull
>"We only use meme role actions around here"
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>>383717872
Which has been my entire argument, no point in subbing for even numbered patches, you get the most out of odd numbered ones. People complaining about nothing to do are the ones buying into the meme's over "gotta do it now!" when in reality not much changes over time, people are still dumb. Dungeons are still dungeons, trials are still trials and savage raids still require some work even if you do gear them.
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>>383714869
Oh yea the servers are really being slammed on wednesday afternoon
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>>383719457
Knife ears arent any better
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>>383718795
>Unless there is literally no way to survive tankbusters than to stack tenacity then nobody will do it.

So you've basically just 100% bought into the memes about how 1 DPS is better than literally anything that isn't DPS as long as you can survive with 1 HP if you do literally everything perfectly, every time.

It's not how the game works and it's not how any good player has ever done anything, but go right on ahead and keep believing that late-tier, max-iLevel farming strategies are the optimal way to do early progression, champ.
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>>383719426
>lose connection during credits
>just skip it next time
>missed this
FUCK
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>Watched my friend beat Nael's epic battle in 1.0
>Nael is back in Coil
>Suddenly Bahamut transforms her into a woman
>Had to google what the fuck just happened

Koji fucked up real bad with Nael, holy fuck!
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>check duty finder
>The Pool of Tribute farm
>first come first serve

why is people coming to this parties? Is just farm a mount for the leader

Why?
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>>383719717
Nael was always a woman
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>>383710071
you can spam it but you can also just do hunts
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>>383719110
MCHs main problem is that it's very boring to play. Sure, dps isn't good, but it's more than enough to clear and farm ex primals. Don't listen to meta fags.
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>>383719746
People are just retarded. They should just remove lootmaster
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>That fucking slog that is everything before HW
>>
>>383718876

>Sperging out this hard over materia

It literally doesn't matter
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>>383719862
Yeah, yet the translation team made it sound like Bahamut was a fucking pervert and transform him into a girl
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>>383699496
because the actual dps may as well be masturbating while autoattacking for how good they tend to be at it
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>>383720057
I think you're reading too much into it.
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>>383720057
The translation team for english is also lead by a fucking idiot who's making the english version a fucking fanfic.
>>
REMOVE PVP UNMEND
>>
why can't i dance like the catgirls in uldah?
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>>383720206
Explain
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>>383720307
Most of the english version is a localisation instead of a translation, while the other languages are actual translations and attempt to stay close to the source material.
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>>383720282
>Unmend
>stun
>sole survivor
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>>383720307
The translation team likes to take some creative liberties with the original script that can end up creating 90s-style confused translations because a later plot point ends up relying on some earlier piece of then-insignificant dialogue that they decided to spice up. Or they'll misinterpret what the main point of some text was supposed to be, end up loosely rewriting it, and then Oops, it turns out the part that they omitted from the rewrite was actually the important bit.
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azim steppe reminding everyone that there are more than 2 shades of aura skin colors
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>>383719426
>Dude just skip the credits you wont miss anything
>Do it
>See this now
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>>383715098
>he thinks numbers in a video game are more than just numbers
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>>383715942
dumb fish
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>>383720719
Blue is best though, with green coming in second.
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>>383720687
>90s-style confused translations
But seriously where the fuck did Ash get an entire herd of Tauros?
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>>383714869
>doxed
O hai, ChaosD1!
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>>383720687
Example?
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>>383720791

>Skipping the credits
>Ever

Got what you deserved.
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>>383720886
in an episode that didn't air outside of Asia
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>>383720975
Basically Nael was always a girl. Real Nael died before 1.0 and you always fight his sister, Eula.
Since japanese has gender neutral pronouns, localization team had to decide if Nael was a he or a she. They went with a male; no problem.
When Nael is revealed to be a women, the translation team keeps saying that Nael is a man, and that the figure you see in Coil is just Bahamut messing with Nael. The japanese script clearly says that Nael was always a girl.
Instead of saying: yeah, we fucked up in the translation and Nael was a woman all along, they decided they will keep the idea that Nael was a man and rewrite everything.
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>>383720975
You don't have dickish dialogue options in the jap version
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>>383721013
but then the lore book says Nael was always a girl so now everyone's confused
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>>383719963
>its a hide n seek quest
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>>383720886
He got them in an episode that never aired in America because it had guns and threats on the main character's lives in it.
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>>383721117
It could be worse, it could be a Find a bunch of people in Mor Dhona
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>>383719110
Right now, the harder the class is to play, the worse performance it has even when done correctly.
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>>383721579

well their 2 new classes have to be extra good, as they're a selling point. 4.1 will cut them down a bit
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Make it stop. I'm almost desperate enough to buy another retainer to have 20 more slots of shit not selling, but then I'd just retainer venture spam them to have even more crap backing up in my inventory
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>>383721013
>>383721101

It's even more stupid because in Japanese, Nael was always Nael who was always a woman, there was no Eula. The lorebook is basically Koji Fox frantically backpedaling while trying to save face after realizing that the PREVIOUS attempt at saving face("He looks like a girl because Bahamut messed with him") was completely retarded.
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>>383720975
A few FFXIV translation foibles I can think of off the top of my head (I'm not super mad about any of these, but they're all instances where a more direct translation could have smoothed things over):

- Back when Haurchefaunt got his first appearance and they didn't know he was going to be important, the original script made him really flamboyant and REALLY into the WoL. They toned this down into a dry standard character for the English version, which made it weird when he got cutscenes where he was basically doing Hildibrand faces.

- In Labyrinth of the Ancients, the boss was originally named something like "Teitan" (basically "Titan" but the i sounds like an "ee" sound). They decided to name him Acheron instead. When Syrcus Tower came out, there was a standard trash enemy named Acheron, so they had to go back and rename the LotA boss Phlegethon

- In 2.3 when they released Hunts, the clues for how to spawn S-Ranks were supposed to be part of the monster info from the hunter NPCs in each zone. The clue for Garlok was that he woke up during a storm, which was in the original script, but not part of the first English translation (leading to hilarious shit where people were running up to a point on the map and dropping Flaming Arrows on it for like three days)

- In 2.5 when Keeper of the Lake came out, the Japanese version of Midgardsormr gave the player a lot of information on what was going on, in a pretty straightforward, non-mysterious way. The English script decided that dragons should be vague and not explain things, so you have to pretty much go in with the Japanese script and a microscope to figure out what he's actually trying to say.

- Minor one, but in a HW patch, they introduced an NPC named "Kuro", and then a patch or two later put in a matching NPC named "Shiro". They decided to translate the first as "Khloe", and so the second one ended up being "Zhloe".
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Now that I've beaten the SM MSQ, I feel empty and sad.
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>>383721780
If there's one thing that annoys the fuck out of me, it's trying to constantly "honour" previous fuck ups instead of just retconning things right. But Final Fantasy can't stop doing it because MUH WOOLSEY, CLEARLY THIS MASSIVE WORLDWIDE FRANCHISE OWES ITS SUCCESS TO A SOME BAD TRANSLATIONS TWO DECADES AGO
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>>383719426
they left the sions? was wondering where they were all xpac considering they were the ones who were investigating ala mhigo
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