Halo (Fuck Bungie)

>>383655796
Halo 4 was shit, Halo 5 was shit. I do not want Bungie to make more Halo
>Halo 5 is a step up from a horrible piece of shit
Great. Still shit.

I
am ordering you

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>>383655796
Halo 5 is the worst halo to date

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>Destiny was shit
>Destiny 2 was shit
Still better than Halo 4 and 5, you fucking shill.
>they're getting better
lmao

>>383655796
I just want Halo to die. The series doesn't deserved to get dragged down like this

>>383655796
Hi 343
Shouldn't you be shilling this shit on the ign forums?

>>383655796
Most people here want Halo to go to someone who isn't bungie or 343, that can actually do justice to the franchise.

Or just have it die peacefully without becoming a joke. The memories of the good old days will be enough.

A halo 3 remaster sold for non AAA price on PC and PlayStation would be acceptable as well, but that's dreaming at this point

>>383655935
Halo 5 is good besides MP and Req system. Could have been much better but for both pro players and social dudebro gamers it is a solid game.

>>383655796
Would be cool if bungie joined 343I but the old bungie is clearly dead..
What we need is

>Halo 3/2A/Wars art style
>different engine more like h2a
>have a good launch without postponing things like infection
>100% chief game or 50% chief and 50% arbiter
>more 343I big team battle maps
>drop warzone
>drop req
>4k/1080p 60 fps
>let blur do cutscenes and fuck off with the bad fightscenes
>change a few things from the current halo 5 spartan abilities
>remove zoom on all weapons like plasma pistol and assault rifle
>keep SMARTSCOPE animations for certain weapons but also keep the OG zoom for weapons like the sniper rifle, old battle rifle, halo 1 Magnum
>playable elites and spartan II's


I just made the perfect halo 6 game. Make it happen 343I

>>383655796
all of those things are shit

>>383655796
bungie is a shell of what it once was. majority of the staff there probably had little to no input in halo.

343i's major problem is a lack of committed direction. As much as people don't like 4 had they continued it's path i think that version of a potential halo 5 would have been better than halo 5 reboot 2. Other than shit design for the forerunner i'd say the biggest complaint was that didact fight is just a qte and that's how they end 5 too.

4 had a decent story when you take out most of the forerunner stuff and the best part of halo 5's story was the hunt the truth marketing stuff. connecting these two together the focus on chief should have been more personal. the original trilogy focused only on his mission and this trilogy should've focused on the man himself. continuing where 5 left off 343 sets themselves up for failure knowing that cortana is bad and all.

>>383656573
Fuck all of that shit, If they try to make another Halo, they will flop just like nuDoom.

>>383656132
Why is she wearing armor? Is she a blue human being?

>>383656132
>play Halo 4
>love Chief/Cortana dynamic
>shit villain and overall story but the levels were occasionally fun to play
>Cortana dies feel sad
>don't worry she'll def be back in 5
>greeted with nuCortana
she looks like shit now and knowing the cliffhanger leaves little room for them to fuck off the ending anywhere else but the games means this will continue and further ruin Halo 6, and even if halfway through she somehow turns good again we're back to square one with 2 games that have amounted to nothing and a third bad one that'll need to be ignored.

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>>383656903
>DOOM 2016 flopped
You can't be this delusional

>>383655796
Bungie still has style

It's mostly that people yearn for old Bungie to be back, not that they consider them good now.

>>383656903
I think halo 6 will be quite successful if Microsoft plays it right. Hope it won't get released for Xbox one though


>t. Xbox one owner

>>383657085
>love Chief/Cortana dynamic
>she looks like shit now
>now
Cortana was always shit with 4 being her worst

>>383656903
NuDoom wasn't even that bad (though not worth AAA pricing). Halo 4 and 5 can't say the same

>>383657203
i liked her in 4. i know it's different than 1-3 but i think it fit the style that 343 went with for halo. it's not bungie but it's not bad. she was definitely better in 4 than 5.

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>Halo 4
>best graphics for last gen
>Halo 5
>looks worse than halo 2 anniversary and feels like upgraded halo 4 graphics

This is it. This is the last Halo game. 343 Industries are gonna have to suck it in and eat some tough love, because if Halo 6 flops, Microsoft will retire the IP and will liquidate the Xbox brand into the PC market.

>>383656573
>Halo 5 is good besides MP
Which is the one thing most people play Halo games for.

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>>383656132
Is Halo 5 cortana being ugly a meme or something? She looks way better then she did in CE, 2 or 3, she had a serious man jaw there

>>383656142
>>383656362
>>383656054
>>383655935
5 has some of the best MP in the series and the best forge by a huge margin, and as a lorefag, The books are the best they've ever been, with like 9 different books in the past 2-3 years alone,almost all of which being around fall of reach quality or better

343 just needs to learn to make the single player good now.

>>383657418
She looked like a bimbo in 4. Completely goes aginst her personality, which they also butchered in 4's story.

>>383657921
He has it backwards, Halo 5's MP and forge are great, but the campaign is phoned in.

>>383658008
2 Cortana was the best, but I agree the jaw was too strong in 3. However 5 Cortana is sort of gross, she's just a blue chick now and not a personified line of code.

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>>383657234
You have bad taste, you like COD don't you.

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>>383655796
All the games you posted where shit, Master Chiefs story should have ended once he went to sleep in the cryotube. The series never deserved the fate it's in now.

Fuck you 343i I just wanted ODST 2.

>>383656903
You shut the fuck up about DOOM 2016 bitch

>>383658170
2's cortana is still way too polygonal and inhuman in prortions due to technical limitations, all the faces in 2 were wonky. And she doesn't look that great in H2A.

Slap Halo 5's cortana's head onto Halo 2/3's cortana's body and it'd be perfect

>>383658038
>B-but Halo 5 has great multiplayer
This meme is why Halo 6 will flop. Halo 5's Arena mode is flawed. Omitting these flaws won't help. For instance, do you think Spartan Abilities should be tied to the player at all times, or do you think they should be pickups on the map? Does tying mechanics to the player sound like something Halo would do?

>>383658413
Man she looks flat out awful in H2A, like the one thing that fucked up. Why they made her look like an actual realistic person when no one else looked like that is beyond me, makes her seem so fucking weird.

>>383658354
>wanting odst 2 when that story already had a good ending just like cheif's

you are just as much of a faggot as he is, also because you ignore the fact that 5's MP and forge are fantastic and thr books are in a good place now.

A sort of game in line with ODST, but not an actual sequel would be cool, like a game following a Sangheili spec ops squad or something like that, but an actual ODST 2 is just as uneeded as Halo 4 was

>>383658412
bootyblasted at 11:32 PM... Go to bed, timmy.

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>>383658008
>5 has some of the best MP in the series
Micro-transactions
Sprinting
Those stupid fucking spartan powers
ADS
Those stupid fucking armor designs
Less armor slots than in reach
Removed invasion, & added war zones
Promethean shit

Halo 3 has the best MP

>>383656132
>30fps
>barebones features and content
>DLC and microtransaction fest

The only thing they had going for them was the art design and music. But they fired the music guy. Destiny is fucked up and so is modern bungie

>>383657921
>>383658038
^^^ this guy is right my bad


It was supposed to be SP

>>383658743
>30fps
BUNGiE, until Destiny 2 PC, has NEVER EVER made a game above 30fps.

>>383655796
>even though they are improving
Notice how when Bungie improved Halo, it went from good to amazing, but when 343 tried to it went from shit to slightly less shit?
Halo is never going to be good again.

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>>383658008
She replaced pic related, and that is a crime I cannot forgive.

>>383658527
Halo 4 Cortana looks best IMO, Halo 3 best game however.

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>>383658521
>literally no arguments besides being buttblasted

>>383658740
4 removed Invasion dummy

>>383655796
I question this myself, the signs were showing in ODST and Reach.

>>383658521
No shit it's flawed, every game, including past Halo games were.

> For instance, do you think Spartan Abilities should be tied to the player at all times, or do you think they should be pickups on the map? Does tying mechanics to the player sound like something Halo would do?

I think for what they are having them be innate movement functions, just like jumping, works fine. I don't think making them be pickups would be a good idea both because most of them are pretty foundational to how movement works in 5, and I actually like how that feels.

Also, because having them be pickups would be retarded from a game balance perspective. You'd have to design the maps in such a way that you still factor thrusting or sprinting or whatever in, but only some of the players can use them. But the players who will get to them first are the players who have already picked one up.

It'd be the exact same problem Halo 2 SMG starts had with the team that pickups up the BR's first just absolutely locking the entire map down with the other team having no hope of having a comeack even if the team with the BR's fucks up and makes mistakes or the other team has more skill in terms of aiming, teamwork, and tactical thinking: Whichever team gort the sprint or thrust powerup first would just lock the entire map down and get all the power weapons and the other team wouldn't be able to keep up

The reason why this isn't an issue with, say, Halo 3's equipment is that those were one time use things.

> Does tying mechanics to the player sound like something Halo would do?
I'd argue the core of Halo is that it's an arena shooter. Halo 5 still has even starts with weapons and powerups on map, and you could argue that the spartan abilities in 5 actually bring it closer to those arena shooter roots by allowing for more advanced movement tech then previously present in the series

>>383658892
Halo 4 cortana is good for fapbait but as a design for her as a character, it's shit.

see
>She looked like a bimbo in 4. Completely goes aginst her personality, which they also butchered in 4's story.

>>383656132
>Still better than Halo 4 and 5, you fucking shill.
No it's not

>>383658927
Except those are arguments, you ass-hurt 343idiot

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>>383658956
5 didn't add it back, & they added fucking war-zones.

>>383659039
>Bimbo
Anon, you use that word but I don't think you know what it means.

>>383658853
Yes, and this is bad and not defensible in any way

60fps is the standard for shooters. Here is a list of 60fps shooters

Call of duty. halo. Battlefield. Titanfall. Overwatch. Rainbow 6. DOOM.

>>383659039
>>383658008
>Goes against her personality
how

>>383659192
I think he think it means "attractive"

>>383659160
I never remember anyone asking for it back. I agree it was fun and I'd like it back too but don't pretend like it was a big thing, 343 was not obligated in the slightest to bring it back

>>383659326
I'll give you that

>>383655796
No, I would argue people should just give the fuck up on both companies. Just give up on Halo. It's never gonna be good again because both companies are shit now.

>>383656132
yeah, I don't know about that

>>383656362
The thing is, nobody else can, and 343 is the best that we got for now over the rest of the garbage that is this industry.

Why do Halo fans not like Destiny? Never played Halo, always been a Sonyngger, but I put almost 1.2K hours on Desyiny on PS4.

>>383658354
>ODST 2
Fuck and Bungie for making that game.

>>383659736
*you

>>383659278
Cortana is primarily a smartass. She's manipulative, cocky, and sarcastic. Her look in 4 makes her look super homely and overly sexy, and her personality in 4 is also reduced to a damsel in distress who cries and has temper tantrums.

>>383659326
A ton of people loved invasion, dude.

That being said, Warzone assault is basically invansion anyways

>>383659681
I liked it had full trials gear on my Titan

>>383658997
>because most of them are pretty foundational to how movement works in 5, and I actually like how that feels.
>how movement works in 5, and I actually like how that feels.
>I actually like how that feels.
You're not a lot of people, especially a lost clan of 7 million people who played Halo 3 and are waiting to relive greatness.
>You'd have to design the maps in such a way that you still factor-
No you don't. It's your map. Making abilities a pickup means that I don't have to design maps around sprint, like how I do now. This means freedom. It also means that sprint will have to directly compete with no-sprint on a map-to-map basis, and we will see where the crowds flock. I'm not saying that the way I described it would be implementable, but something to that effect would still mean freedom.
>Halo 2 SMGs
That reminds me, Halo 3 has already solved the issue of dual wielding. It's impractical, but it didn't break the game like Halo 2. Halo 6 should have BR starts.
>halo is an arena shooter
Sort of but not quite. If you wanted to make Halo an arena shooter, take the AR combos from Halo: CE, the shotgun from Halo: CE, and the BR combos from H2 and officially implement them into the game, and then you would have a relatively slow, but twitchy arena shooter with utility weapons and great controller support.

343 is shit, fuck off. Halo is not the series it once was and it never will be again

>>383659908
>Her look in 4 is overly sexy
How? it's just a more HD version of the others.
>Her personality in 4 is also reduced to a damsel in distress who cries and has temper tantrums
t. Anita. She's going insane, there's a perfectly valid reason for her having "temper tantrums" and considering she's potentially going to lose John forever, I can say crying is a valid response to that.

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>>383655796
>Proven hacks
More like everyone with talent is gone

>>383660132
It's sad that the talent left after Halo 3.

>>383660132
If I were Jason Jones, man...

>>383660319
The game industry as a whole went to shit after Halo 3

>>383659681
Because it's a continuation of the bullshit Bungie started with ODST and Reach. It basically played like your generic modern shooter and looked like it too. The same shit they were going for with ODST and Reach because they no longer wanted to make Halo games during that time.

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>>383660404
Damn, you're right

>>383659681
Halo lore is science-fiction heroin, and it tied in the multiplayer. The unique armor design was better than destiny. Destiny is grinding with alright gun mechanics but it feels hollow and disjointed, lacking the memorable singular vision of Halo.

>>383657098
Oh shit doom guy 2016 has a face

>>383658535
I'll admit Halo 5's forge is pretty decent and the MP is a improvement above 4's but saying 5's MP is great is a large misjudgement. They're trying to change the MP way to much to appeal to Esports and REQ packs were a mistake

If Halo 6 adds in normal ways to acquire armor like Halo 3 or even Reach's system, drop the zoom function, chill out with the thrust and bring back the distinction between ranked playlists and social like 3.

>>383659736
Also fuck you both I just wanna play as an ODST again.

>>383659681
>Why do Halo fans not like Destiny?
As someone who has played every BUNGiE game from Pathways into Darkness to Halo: Reach, I can tell you that BungieVision is not BUNGiE. Look at all of the key staff that make up BUNGiE. These are the people missing from BUNGiE:
>Alex Seropian, CEO of BUNGiE until 2001 and did sound design for all of their games until Martin O'Donnel.
>Greg Kirkpatrick, one of the best videogame storytellers to have lived. In his infinite wisdom, he shoved a book into a Macintosh Quadra so everyone could read about rampant AIs that destroyed planets on Traxus IV.
>Doug Zartman, funny guy that did nothing, but was part of the charm and humour that was BUNGiE.
>Martin O'Donnel, the greatest musician that is still alive, knew a thing or two about storytelling
>Joseph Staten, again a great storyteller who was responsible for the amazing set-pieces we got in Halo 1-3.
>Some of the people left after Halo 3, some went off to other developers, some went to 343 and became total snakes.
>But since the very beginning, Jason Jones was there.
And he still is, and you just take one look at the guy and see that he is trapped on the inside.

>>383655796
I used to love Bungie back in the day before Destiny was ever announced and was just in the teases of teases stage. I don't think anyone wants them to make more Halo games as much as they just want the series to stop.

>>383655796
I loved Bungie back in the days of Halo 1-3 but starting with ODST I knew they were going downhill, Reach confirmed that. I thought 343's Halo 4 campaign was decent but I absolutely hated the everything else, Halo 5 I hated the single player, but I liked the multiplayer and Forge. I hope since Brian the hack Reed got fired after his shit writing in Halo 5, the single player can improve for Halo 6, they already have my interest with all future games focusing solely on the Master Chief, along with bringing back split screen and lan, but I hope they truly understood Halo 5's criticisms.

As far as I'm concerned, Reach was the last Halo game ever made. Last one to have a good campaign; MP had its faults, but I liked it.

There's still Halo Wars, but that's different.

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This franchise has been worthless ever since Halo 3. I feel sorry for the stupid fucks who actually bought an Xbone to play this garbage.

>>383662973
>Reach was the last Halo game ever made. Last one to have a good campaign
Kill yourself

>>383663253
>This franchise has been worthless ever since Halo 3
Oh shit, is this the Halo 2 fag again?

Halo 5 is fine for customs.
Halo 6 will be great. It's going to be more like 2/3

>>383663361
Halo 3 was basically the same thing as Halo 2 but worse. It's time for you to move on.

>>383663423
Halo 2 campaign was rushed crap, and Halo 3 was rushed, whine and bitch about how Halo 2's campaign was inferior to Halo 1 and 3's somewhere else.

>>383663280
You first, friend. I'm sorry you're too autistic to have fun with a good video game and only know how to sperg on a Tibetan watercolor site over other people's enjoyment.

>>383663525
Sir this is a Korean knitting site, not a water color site

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>>383663519
I'm not a fan of the arbiter levels.

>>383663408
Hopefully, If 343 pulls it off I can forgive their sins.

>>383655796
>current year
>still caring about halo

>>383663525
>Reach
>a good video game
Reachfags, no it was a piece of shit, Bungie stop making good Halo games and good games in general after Halo 3. All the talent left.

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>>383657647
What YTP is this from?

>>383663837
Me either

>>383663408
Please let Halo 6's campaign be fun.

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>>383664025
>not liking ODST
Get the fuck out already.

>>383655796
I agree that Bungie is dead and could never make a good Halo again. But 343 fucked the franchise the moment they released a mainline game without splitscreen.

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>>383658743
Best Destiny theme coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnFnrZZtYbA

>>383664137
ODST sucked just as much as Reach you new kids need to fuck off.

>>383664250
>But 343 fucked the franchise the moment they released a mainline game without splitscreen
Good thing they're bringing it back with Halo 6 and it will stay in Halo going forward.

>>383664518
>128 maps
Now this is autism
Where do I vote?

>>383664518
Holy fuck

>>383655796
I'm playing through Halo 2 again after CE, and I'm still enjoying it as I did CE.
How bad did it get after this? Never bothered with the 360 or its successor.

>>383664606
Halo 3 is still good

>>383658008

Next time, post a good picture with the best Cortana. 4 was the best, 5 made her worse.

>>383655796
>Destiny 2 will be shit
only if they keep giving me guns with exhumed

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>>383664491
>new kids
>Halo
This is some advanced shitposting.

>>383664606
Stop after playing Reach. There's nothing beyond that point but disappointment.

>>383664606
Halo 3 was great man, you missed out.

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>>383664663

>>383658892
Fucking hell H4 Cortona was hot.

>>383664452
>best song
>used once on the second level then ignored

What in the FUCK were they thinking?

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>>383664683
ODST and Reach were pure shit, you could tell all the talent left after Halo 3. Bungie only made three good Halo games, Halo 1, Halo 2, and Halo 3. Now do us all a favor here and get the fuck out, newfag.

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defend this

>>383664491
Then I will wait and see how 6 turns out, and even buy it if it's good.

I didn't hate 4, I thought multiplayer maps were a pretty good step up from Reach (but Reach was just single player areas turned into maps, and everything except Forge World was overall weak). The story of Halo is getting stupider all the time, but at the very least let me drive a warthog with my buddy on the couch handling the gunner spot. That's all Halo really is at the end of the day for me, one of the tightest batches of co op campaigns I can do on one system.

But the early Halos are all going free soon, and you can link Xbones, 360s and OG Xboxes for LAN parties. That's gonna be some serious shit.

>>383664725
I know Halo 5 Cortana is very slightly stretched there, but it really makes her look a lot like Data.

Data's not sexy.

>>383664871
You know, you don't HAVE to be wrong. You could just enjoy all five great games and lead a normal, productive life instead of being the incomplete wastrel you are today.

Halo: Reach to Destiny was huge fucking powergap. Seriously, Bungie went from making one of my favorite games of all time that I still continue to actively play to making a pile of pay 2 play dogshit. I've never lost faith in a developer so quickly.

>>383665053
I enjoy three of them, ODST and Reach aren't great they're shit, I found Halo 4 campaign to be decent at best and I plan to buy Halo 5 when I get a Xbox One X. Can't wait to play Halo 3 and 4 on the Xbox One X and eventually Halo 1 and 2 on the Xbox One X, ODST and Reach can eat shit.

>>383664898
You just reminded me that Halo 4 spent so long building up the leader of the Storm, and then he's killed in an early Halo 5 cutscene and never matters ever again. What the fuck exactly happened within 343 between 4 and 5? Cause I could have accepted 4 as an okay first showing, if 5 didn't drop the ball so hard.

>>383665150
We assumed that if they could survive under Microsoft, they could survive under Activision. We were wrong.

>>383664657
>>383664714
Eh, maybe one day. I elected not to buy one due to the RRoD around the time and even after they fixed it I just kind of forgot it. How's it end? Does the Arbiter kill the prophet or does Chief do it?
>>383664683
Dunno what Reach is.

>>383664901
I know I can't wait, Halo 4 is like the Metroid Fusion to me, I don't hate it at all, I just wished it was a little better.

>>383665335
Arbiter does it.
Seriously just play the game. New model 360s are fine with fail rate.

>>383665335
>Dunno what Reach is.
A shit prequel that has zero importance, you can ignore that game.

>>383665390
Remember, Halo 3 is also coming free to the Xbone this year. I mean, that's more money, but if anon is really afraid of RRoD, the Xbone is overall more reliable. And I personally think they've improved the controller with each system release.

>>383665456
>Top-tier multiplayer
>Best forge
>Generic campaign story redeemed by beautiful level designs and entertaining gameplay
>Graphics still hold up almost 10 years later
It's worth playing.

>>383655796

>myth
>ONi
>marathon
>halo

>shit

You're a fucking troll

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>>383664025
>having taste this garbage

Threefags are literally this retarded. Reach is the only other good Halo after the first since it is the only Halo to imitate the first. The rest are just casualized bullshit.

>>383659681
Gee I wonder why fans of a great and storied shooter wouldn't like a shooter where shotguns are best fired in ads

>>383665390
>>383665565
>arby does it
Good.
Maybe if I see one in a thrift store. Kind of saving right now.
>>383665456
How's the singleplayer? Only part of Halo I ever cared about since I never had internet when I played CE and 2.

>>383665639
>Top-tier multiplayer
That's Halo 1, 2, 3, and 5
>Best forge
Halo 5
>Generic campaign story redeemed by beautiful level designs and entertaining gameplay
Reach had some of the worst level designs in the series
>Graphics still hold up almost 10 years later
Motion blur, grain filter, desaturated colors, jaggies, slow movement speed, low jump height, no bleed through, and crap health system that ruins what was great about Halo 1's heath system makes the game age like milk. The game literally makes your controller feel broken when you play it.

>>383665714
I started with Halo 1, Reachfag. Shows what you know faggot.

>>383665850
>How's the singleplayer?
Terrible

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>>383664995

They put clothes on Cortana, got rid of her child bearing hips and made her look older.

>>383664840
i wanna play not fap

Why don't they just fucking give us an Arbiter game? For fucks sakes, it would be so good.

>>383666154
Because us fans want to play the Master Chief.

>>383666090
Wasn't one of the 343 devs complaining about Quiet from MGSV? Seems pretty hypocritical when you have a naked AI sexed up from the original games.

>>383666239
You're not a fan at this point. If you liked Halo 4 and Halo 5 you clearly don't actually like the MC.

Never played Halo. What made it series special from fps that came before?

>>383666154
>>383666239
human bodies make more sense to shoot in MP. Halo dont sell without good MP

>>383666343
Explain Halo 4 and 5's sales, then.

>>383666341
BR button combos in 2

>>383666343
People play Halo for the campaign, multiplayer is a bonus.

>>383666308
I love playing Master Chief, I loved it in Halo 1, I loved it in Halo 2 while I hated playing Arbiter, loved it in Halo 3, felt good finally playing him again in Halo 4 after 5 years of shit, and I was pissed I barely got to play him in Halo 5, so yes I will feel good playing Chief for now on in a fucking FPS Halo game for once.

>>383666308
Halo 3>Halo 2>Halo CE>ODST>Reach>Halo Wars 1 & 2>>>>>>>>,halo 4, Halo 5>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo Spartan assault

>>383666758
Switch 2 and 3 and you've got it.

>>383666785
I don't play halo to play as the arbiter for half the campaign, & Halo 3 has the best multiplayer.

>>383666758
damn, that is pretty much perfect.

I would make Halo 2 and 3 equal, they are pretty much interchangeable at this point. but everything else is spot on.

>>383666856
This

Also

>>383666758
Halo 3 > Halo 1 > Halo 2 > Halo 5 > Halo 4

For me at least, the other games ain't worth mentioning.

>>383666341
>hey imagine if all these cool features from different shooters were in one game
>enter Halo

That's why

>>383666856
Halo 2 has the best multiplayer maps, with Halo 3 having pretty bleh maps and having to rely on Forge mode, and the Arbiter was fantastic and had the most memorable missions in the game. Halo 2 had a much better campaign than Halo 3. You're an absolute pleb.

>>383666008
Elaborate? Is it mostly chief or arbiter

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>>383659039
>>She looked like a bimbo in 4. Completely goes aginst her personality

Who the fuck are you quoting? Your "womyn's" studies professor?

>>383666927
>the Arbiter was fantastic and had the most memorable missions in the game. Halo 2 had a much better campaign than Halo 3. You're an absolute pleb
Not him but I didn't want to say anything but I'm sorry, I have to say something, Master Chief has the most memorable missions out of Halo 2, Arbiter's missions were shit. Halo 3's campaign shitted on Halo 2 except for story, if I were to remove Master Chief from Halo 2, then Halo 2's campaign would be below Halo 4's campaign for me.

>>383664725
I like how they never ever kept her design consistent

>>383666989
You don't play as either, you play as a slow ass Spartan III.

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>>383667075
>Halo 3's campign shitted on Halo 2 except for story
That's a bad fucking joke and you know it. Halo 3 had an abysmal campaign, easily the worst out of the trilogy.

>>383667136
*neither

>>383667136
>ur hur you dont play as chief so the campaign is shit
didnt know people still did this

>>383667169
No what you said is a bad joke, Halo 2's campaign was a fucking disappointment after Halo 1's I didn't want to play as a fucking alien and going on some stupid civil war, I just wanted to play the Chief and that's it, Halo 2 had the worst campaign in the original trilogy and if it didn't have Chief it would be one of the worst campaigns in the entire series. Marty and Marcus even warned Joseph Staten that sidelining Chief with an alien was a bad idea.

>>383667357
Yeah you're clearly a pleb. Arbiter was fantastic.

>>383667327
It's more than just that shithead, the game plays nothing like a Halo game, looks nothing like a Halo game, and it's story is so shit it makes Halo ODST's and 5's look decent. The UNSC are the GF of the Halo series, boring as shit.

>>383658170
well, she IS supposed to be more real than before, as she's no longer JUST lines of code.

I agree, she still doesn't look nice, but she is in fact, a blue chick.

>>383667136
Jesus Christ just equip MC's armor and it's the same fucking thing.

>>383667430
Arbiter was shit, if people liked him, why did Bungie sidelined his ass in Halo 3, why are 343 finally doing everyone a solid and dropping all these garbage OCs we've been getting since 2004 as failed Chief replacements in Halo 6 and beyond, face facts faggot, no one wants to play these OC fucks, fans just want to play the Chief, that's it.

>>383667089

The graphics got better. That's good. But 5's style is worse than 4. 343 didn’t go full (((Bioware))) and make her ugly, but it’s definitely not sexy. Bring back naked Cortana.

>>383667136
I don't understand
Isn't Halo just arby and the chief?

>>383667571
> if people liked him, why did Bungie sidelined his ass in Halo 3,
Because of idiots like you screeching about MY MASTER CHIEF! Bungie has said this in the past, which you'd know if you were a real fan.

>>383667557
You move like a turd, you jump like a turds, you hit like a bitch, you get killed like a bitch from one melee hit, no you're not the Chief. Am I running around the galaxy exploring cool Forerunner planets, no I'm not, so no I'm not the Chief.

>>383667571
Oh, is that why Halo 5 was split into playing as a Chief and some retarded OC? Because people don't want to play as retarded OC's that try to replace the Chief?

>>383667667
Nope, it's Chief and just the Chief, been that way since Halo 1.

>>383667679
Well I'm glad I'm part of the majority and you're part of the minority, how does it feel to lose again? You lost to us in 2007 and you lost again and this time the payoff is bigger for us since we get to play Master Chief for all future FPS Halo titles since they're doubling down on the Chief.

>>383667580
imo 4 cortana is pretty good, but I wish they had modeled her off someone with a more interesting face. She's pretty forgettable looking for a central character.

>>383667871
>Well I'm glad I'm part of the majority and you're part of the minority, how does it feel to lose again?
Halo's dead at this point, the only people who lost are the idiots who bought a Xbone.

>>383667703
See>>383667871
Locke is getting the Arbiter treatment, and don't expect anymore OC characters in the mainline games going forward, starting with Halo 6 all FPS Halo games will be a Chief affair.

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This guy is really going all out huh.

>>383667930
>Halo's dead at this point
Depends on if 343 pulls a Halo 4 and 5 again, but they already fixed the mp, they now just need to fix the sp.

>>383667871
>add arbiter in halo 2
>adds some depth and backstory to the covenant, and shows the internal power struggles
>arbiter has more personality than chief, who is just a mindless vessel for shooting

>HURR DURR HALO IS CHIEF BECAUSE HE DA BEST

you're a faggot. The arbiter levels weren't the best, but at least bungie fucking tried to make an in depth character

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>>383668012
>w-well they fucked up Halo 4 and Halo 5, but this next one will be great!

>>383668018
>muh back story
It was better when the Covenant spoke alien and Cortana just gave tidbits of what was going on in their battlenet. Shit was boring as hell in game. Shit belongs in a novel not a game.

Supposedly Halo 3 was suppose to be the Last Halo game before the whole switching to 343

How do you think Halo would be seen under a different light if Halo 3 WAS the last main game in the series?

>>383668156
No it wasn't, you just have bad taste.

>>383668081
I guess Sakamoto going from Other M to Samus Returns doesn't mean nothing huh?

>>383668156
>not loving the intro scene where MC is getting awarded honors while Arbiter is stripped of his rank and shamed
Look at the fucking brainlet here.

>>383668187
1-3 are already regarded as great, if not classics.
Halo would be fondly remembered and not the shitfest it is now.

>>383668187
>Supposedly Halo 3 was suppose to be the Last Halo game

yes they were just going to pull the plug on one of the biggest franchises of all time after 3 games with no slowdown in sight

please evaluate your statements for logical believability before posting

>>383668226
Sakamoto is just a producer, iirc. He's not going to be allowed to fuck anything up again.

>>383668197
Nah, I just like video games and not cinematic shit. The Covenant politics and religion were boring as hell, but I hate politics and religion bores the hell out of me anyway so I can see why I didn't like it to begin with.

>>383668156
>story belongs in a novel

Nigger, halo 1 would have been boring as shit if all the story surrounding chief and the halo was only in the book. The strength of the halo series was doing gameplay and narrative in a well meshed manner. Arbiter levels don't exactly exposition all over the place.

Take your shitty opinions elsewhere you fucking 12 year old

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>tfw you will never get to go back to the days of playing couch co-op with your best bud in halo

>>383668348
You type like you're in middle school. You're acting like the Arbiter stuff was just nonstop cinematic stuff when it really wasn't.

Also, if you really hated cinematic shit, you would despise Halo 3 and the LOL CHIEF WALKS SLOW BECAUSE THE GRAVEMIND IS TALKING shit it constantly threw at you.

>>383668263
I did enjoy that scene but I sure as hell didn't give a damn about playing as an alien.

>>383668187
I wish it was or they put the series on a 5 year break, didn't need all that shit in between.

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Shooting Covenant in Halo 1 just felt the best. Just the right amount of blood/hit particle effects (minus meleeing jackals/elite corpses over and over), and the lack of ragdoll physics made them look much weightier as they fell.

Am I overstating the importance of good death animations for enemies? I always considered it a critical part of a good shooter. The ragdoll physics has never been good in Halo. Halo 2's was the absolute worst, where every enemy floated around like they were made out of styrofoam. Halo 3's were slightly better, but never progressed beyond that. Even when a scripted death animation does get a chance to play, too often it ends with a limb clipping through some object or terrain and after the model switches over to ragdoll physics, it wigs out and flies off in some random direction. Feels more like I killed something made out of paper. If Halo can't have Red Dead Redemption quality physics, I'd rather it was dumped entirely in favor of more and varied scripted death animations. Modern Warfare 1/2 are the best examples I can think of for death animations that (almost) never rely on ragdoll physics.

>>383668320
Bungie was done.
Hell, they were done with halo 2 but stuck around to finish the job after 2's development hell. Reach, by their own admission was made to fulfill their contract and get them the fuck out.

Microsoft knew then and know now they only have one IP worth a damn so it's no surprise they were against it.

>>383668354
Halo canon
Games > everything else
Fuck off lorefag

>>383668472
Shut the fuck up, Halo 1 and 3 campaigns were great, Halo 2 could have been great if Joe listened to Marty and Marcus and dropped the Arbiter, too bad.

>>383667871
I dunno, I just was kind of confused about a random spartan being there instead of chief or arby. I've only played 1 and 2, it's all I know about Halo. I'm sorry.

>>383668472
Fucking this, being forced to walk while listening to gravemind or cortana bitch at you was infuriating and far more "cinematic" than a skippable cutscene.

>>383668628
>implying I'm a lore fag

I'm implying the opposite you fucking faggot. Go suck a dick.

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>>383668357
>you will never have summer Halo 2 LAN Party sleepovers with your friends again
>you will never fuck around for hours on Coagulation again
>you will never get super competitive on Lockout again
>you will never try to do a legendary run and fail miserably
>you will never try to exploit glitches in the campaign and get to the scarab gun with friends for the first time

It really hurts that this franchise has fallen so much. I have so many fond memories.

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>>383668518
CE is great for the shear amount of carnage you leave behind you. None of the other games quite managed to match it.

>>383668628
Halo 3's campaign was not great, you're blinded by nostalgia. Go replay the Cortana level (or really, any Flood level) and say with a straight face that it was great.

>>383668567
>Reach, by their own admission was made to fulfill their contract and get them the fuck out
Which explains why it was shit, I'm still mad at Microsoft because they could have waited 5 fucking years for Halo 4.

>>383668518
I always thought the human grenade animations were great in this regard, better than most of the stuff that comes out today. I think in-game physics play a pretty big role in the fun/gameplay factor, made Halo CE 2000s whacky in a sense.

>>383668518
I just liked how sometimes bodies would fall in weird stretchy ways, like a flood stretched a full body length down by just its arm.

>>383668649
That's okay, Halo 3 returns to solely being about the Chief again.

>>383668687
You're the one who stated that the books expand the series so I just told you to fuck off and read the books.

>>383668720
No you're blinded by nostalgia, I'm one of the few people who doesn't fall for that shit, Halo 3 was the best in the series, I thought this back in 2007, and I still think this now, I never really like Halo 2's campaign, I didn't like it in 2004 and I still don't like it now, I love Halo 1 but it's levels haven't aged well, but guess what, like in 2004 and 207 I still consider it better than Halo 2. I never liked Halo ODST and Reach even at release, so you can fuck right off with that shit. Halo 3 had ONE bad level, Halo 2 had several that almost put me off it.

>>383655796
>hates Destiny
>will hate Destiny 2
>thinks 343 is any good despite being proven hacks
Shit taste and judgement detected.

>>383669014
>I'm blinded by nostalgia
I played Halo 3 again THIS YEAR, when did you last replay it?

You say you hate cinematic shit, but you're seriously defending all that slow walking nonsense? Get the fuck out.

>>383669014
>If all of halo's story was in a book it would be boring as shit
>Halo's strength was the it blended story and game play together in the games

Learn to read nigger.

>>383669042
343 is pretty fucking bad, but I don't see how anyone can enjoy Destiny. It's like Halo but all the fun is replaced with grind.

>>383669014
>You're the one who stated that the books expand the series

tell me where I said that? I explicitly said that the games would be boring if the story was only on the books.

Nigger.

>>383669095
Just a few hours ago, shithead. Halo 3's cutscenes are barely that long, Halo 2 cutscenes are the longest in the original trilogy, sometimes having a cutscene directly after another in the same level.

>still no MCC/H3A for PC
What the fuck is MS's problem? They even started bringing Xbone games to PC, but what a surprise, MCC wasn't included.

Now there's modders literally porting over the 360 maps/weapon/campaign assets and pretty much remaking Halo Online into the H3PC it should have been, MS could have done this easily with their access to the sources etc, they pretty much had it all ported already with Halo Online, could have made H3PC with almost no effort on their part and sold it cheap for a nice bit of money.

There's still some time for MS to cash in on it, afaik the ported 360 stuff is still a few months away, but once that drops and ElDewrito push out their new update I'm pretty sure nobody will be interested in whatever shitty port MS bring out.

>>383659039
>bimbo
How so? She just has a nice body in this one. It really made her waifu-tier which was the whole point of the game, and made me incredibly sad to think that I might never see her again. Also, one of the stories main themes was where do you draw the lines between man and machine, so it's fitting that Master Chief, the big green badass, showed some fear and vulnerability in this, and that Cortana, the blue super genius who knew EXACTLY what to do at every moment in every game before this, also showed vulnerability, especially since she was coming to terms with the fact that she could not "live" forever and that she had feelings, platonic or not, for the Master Chief. One of my favorite lines was near the end when Cortana is freaking out because for once in her existence she does NOT know what to do, while she's repeating to herself "I always know what to do next."
Halo 4 is kino.

>>383655796
Hi Frankie. No one here likes your shitty franchise, go back to the male strip club dressed as a woman again. Ms isnt paying you to shill here. Go back to neofag

>>383668828
The grenades in general just felt the best in Halo 1. Maybe it was overpowered, but I loved being able to rely on plasma grenades to always take down shields in their blast radius. Any elite, regardless of rank or the difficulty, could be killed by a stuck plasma. The frag grenades actually had a decent blast radius, and the massive dirt cloud they could send up was awesome to behold from a distance, especially on the Silent Cartographer beach assault.

>>383668909
The elite's jaw/mandible things would also always stretch in some weird direction. Odd that they didn't just lock the mandible positions relative to the rest of the head, like they do in the remake.

>>383669275
Microsoft has the same problem nintendo does with seeing themselves as competitors.

>>383669258
>just a few hours ago
Then you're clearly blinded by your own nostalgia. Also its hilarious how you're dancing around the OH I'M BEING TALKED AT I BETTER WALK REALLY REALLY SLOW shit, when every single human being disliked that nonsense. You're just a drooling MC fanboy.

>>383669151
>>383669179
blah, blah, blah, whatever, but like I said, you want side characters there are games and other products for you, the Halo Wars series, and the novels and comics, now go fuck off there.

>>383669414
>blah, blah, blah
either idiot, or troll. Thanks for outing yourself underaged shithead

>>383669275
>H3A
Who gives a shit, I'm getting Halo 3 and 4 on BC and Halo 1 and 2 to soon follow, hell yeah!

>>383669414
>blah, blah, blah
What a dumb cunt you are.

>>383669414
I think you are actually retarded

>>383669387
>being this triggered
I know you're a Halo 2 faggot dude but come on.

>>383669448
>all these triggered Halo 2 faggots

>>383669014
Alright I guess, I probably won't be able to play 3 for a while but that sounds fine.
Have fun with whatever you're arguing about.

>>383669414
>this is the guy who prefers scenes of your character walking slowly wile getting spoken to over cutscenes that you can quickly skip
Maximum pleb

>>383669554
>e-everyone is triggered! You're all triggered!

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>>383669492
See>>383669554

>>383669562
>>383669562
See>>383669619

>>383658743
They did Marathon and Oni both ran uncapped though, Halo 2 V was capped at 60 :)

>>383669596
See>>383669619

>>383669657
How embarrassing.

>>383669336
It was the best with the marines though.
There's a preset one with his jaw stretched open so far he looks like a demon.
That game was so fun to mess with.

Halo 2 was unfinished shit
Halo 3 was horrible shit
Halo Reach was just shit

It's almost like Halo 1 was the only decent game in the franchise and everything else has been sugar coated with nostalgia.

>>383669619
Most people in the thread disagree with you so you're wrong, sorry~

>Anon desperately tries to stop the blood flowing from his anus

>>383656362
>A halo 3 remaster sold for non AAA price on PC and PlayStation
I know you said it is wishful thinking, but you have to be literally braindead to ever expect Halo on fucking PLAYSTATIOM

>>383658968
Fuck you ODST had the second best campaign in all the games with the best being Halo CE

>>383669657
>he's STILL ignoring how shitty the walking slow while characters talk to you thing Halo 3 was full of
Thanks for broadcasting to the whole thread how bad your taste is.

>>383669854
The pixel hunting thing was goddamn garbage, I'm sorry. Treking around that boring world looking for missions was not fun in the slightest.

So /v/ question, do you faggots even like Metroid or Halo? why every time we have a thread you fuckers shitpost about how Bungie are the best devs ever, how 343 and Sakamoto are shit, and bitch about your shitty fan games no one gives a fuck about. A few years ago you faggots use to make fun of the Halo series now you're playing like you like it. The you claim to be fans of the series yet you say shit like Halo 2 had the best campaign, ODST and Reach were the best Halo games, when Halo 2 had the worst campaign in the trilogy and Halo ODST Reach were some of the worst Halo games ever made. So what's the deal /v/? Are you faggots really Halo and Metroid fans or are you faggots just pretending just to piss off the real ones?

>>383669945
/v/ isn't one person.

>>383669945
Yes.

>>383670010
This is the only post that makes since.

>>383670057
*sense

>A halo 3 remaster sold for non AAA price on PC
I don't really see them re-releasing any of the old Halos anymore, even giving them a PC port. They only care about H5 now and trying to make it into a "competitive e-sport", and if people are playing other Halos that's less people who could be playing H5.

It's pretty obvious this is the way they're going, MCC suddenly stopped releasing updates (with the last update pretty much breaking the whole game). Halo Online gets cancelled just as it starts getting semi-popular in the west with ElDewrito, and not a pip about re-releasing H3 on it's anniversary as they did with every other Halo game.

Hell I bet if they'd actually planned H5 earlier (MS planning something, lel) MCC probably never would have even been released.

>>383670180
meant to quote
>>383656362

>>383667089
4s and 5s Cortanas are the same, in 5s she is just using clothes.
So she can hold the thingie of responsability I guess.

You all forgetting that Gaylo was never good. Shit AI, shit weps, shit design, shit story.

>>383670325
Pretty sure 5 is fatter and actually different.

>>383667075
>Arbiter's missions were shit
Fuck you, anon.
>playing Halo 2 solo on legendary
>always try to save my allies
>marines except for Johnson always die instantly and leave me alone to fend for myself
>don't like those feels
>play Arbiter mission
>dat brotherhood with the Elites
>they regenerate shields so they survive MUCH longer than marines
>was like 12 so missions with the Flood scared the absolute shit out of me
>all those allies helping during the first mission with the Flood
>watching them get slain one by one
>watching them turn into the Flood they died trying to stop
>those feels
>spend more time trying to save allies than I do trying to save myself
>that Elite with an energy sword who survived all the way to the end until he leaves so I can cut shit up
And a lot of people complained about the ending of Halo 2 because it involved the Arbiter, but I loved it for the teamwork.
>see those Hunters on your side for once wrecking shit
>die valiantly
>even the grunts die with dignity
>Sangehlli brothers meet the same fate
>still wreck shit alongside double needler bro
>make it to Tartarus, who contributed to death of unknown numbers of Sangehlli
>watch your brothers get wrecked by Thor's hammer
>finally kill him
>tfw
I really enjoyed playing as the Arbiter.

>>383655796
Halo 5 recently added oddball.

Oddball.

Why the fuck are they adding shit that should've been in the game at launch and acting like they're doing the fanbase a favor?

>bought destiny 2 beta key for 80 cents
>will play game so i know its shit and then never get affected by garbage tier hype train by all press industry paid to shill that turd

>>383669945
The only people shitting on Halo before it went down the toilet were sonybros, as always, and people disagreeing with controversial design changes, like dual wielding, sprint or having niggers as major characters in the story.

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>>383669774
This bait is shit

>>383670972
Why didn't you just pre-order then cancel to get the beta?

>>383670880
>mfw everyone except for one grunt makes it to the end and gets to the ship before I cut the cable
Feels fucking amazing. Best combo of Elite weapons is give one a sword and the other a carbine.

>>383655796
>in this age, Bungie is a shit company that doesn't make good halo games and 343 should make more

Literally what the fuck are you talking about? bungle was always loved while they were on halo

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Has anyone even bought REQ packs?

>seems like I get a shit ton as it is

>>383671819
No, as far as micro-transaction go they're handling it the best, but no matter how well they're handled I'll still be against them.

>>383655796
343 ruined Cortana and the lore.
They also managed to fuck up Halo 4 so much that it was down to 10k players in a couple of months after release.

>>383671925
You just made possibly the two worst complains I've ever seen. At least complain about multilayer or something.
>Cortana
Halo 4 Cortana was the best one.
>Lore
You literally have to read books to fully grasp the Halo 4 story. Bungie did not give a single shit about lore. Not one fuck. That's why Reach made the most popular lore book, The Fall of Reach, 90% obsolete and completely contradicted it.

>>383672142
>Halo 4 Cortana was the best one.
If you mean body model then sure, otherwise 4 was your first game. 5 resurrecting her as the enemy was insanely retarded and no Halo fan liked it.
They introduced another ancient civilization before the fucking forerunners. You can arbitrarily dismiss the lore all you want to but it is still lazy, garbage writing.

I did complain about the multiplayer you dumb faggot. The game was so garbage that it was down to barely 10,000 people online a few months after release.

>>383667571
I liked the Arbiter. When I was a kid I gave two shits about his story but as I grown and revisit these games I see that I just needed to mature a bit to enjoy his side of the story

Why do people like Halo 4 and Halo 5?

>>383672713
Shit taste.

>>383672713
People like halo 4 & 5?!?!?!?

>>383668518
One of my most favorite things is how when a Spartan dies to an explosion, after the doggy-paddle-through-air animation of them getting blasted, their butt plate always rotates rather suddenly during the landing animation. And I always notice it.

>>383672713
its their first in the series, they are underage

Halo 3 would have been perfect if BR bullet travel time was slightly increased.

PROVE ME WRONG. Professional Tip: YOU FUCKING CAN'T

>>383672713
halo 5 multiplayer is fun. The forge is the best in the series unless you're some autist who thought halo 3s forge was anything but basic. campaign design is decent with a few notable scores . But its pretty damn poor beyond that.
I don't know why anyone would like halo 4 beyond the decent story. the campaign was so flat in design and the gameplay barely did anything with the combat other then adding cod tier custom class shit.

>>383657025
Her DNA-based code is so complex that she could barely change her body to not just be straight up nude. With the processing power of the forerunner domain she probably was able to make more changes.

>>383657025
343i said that Cortana was only naked to attract attention

>>383666253
>a naked AI sexed up

FYI when you program human genetic data into a computer to create a virtual person, it doesn't magically grow clothes. It's not "sexed up" you puritanical mongoloid. It's a natural state of a human animal.

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>>383665192
>I plan to buy Halo 5 when I get a Xbox One X. Can't wait to play Halo 3 and 4 on the Xbox One X and eventually Halo 1 and 2 on the Xbox One X
You sound like a Microsoft employee.

ITT: nostalgia fags unable to accept that Halo 5 has the second best multiplayer in the franchise

face it kiddoes, you'll never be 13 playing Halo 3 with your best buds on the couch again, and even if Halo 5 was the perfect Halo it still couldn't change that

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383676118
>over Halo 2
>over Halo 3

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>>383676232
you messed it up anon

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>>383655796
>Halo 5 is so fucking shit M$ did not consider Halo 6 as launch title for the Xbone one X

LMAO

>>383676338
It's a meme used by redditor tourist newfags who think any criticism if their favorite media is trolling and fishing for replies.

>>383675859
You're the natural state of a human animal.

>>383676118
>has the second best multiplayer
does it have couch MP?
that alone puts it below any Halo that does

>>383676686
Thanks anon. That means a lot to me. :)

>>383656362
>Or just have it die peacefully without becoming a joke.
That ship has long since sailed.

One big problem Halo 5 has, and that Halo 6 will also undoubtedly have is that there simply aren't enough gametypes, there's no invasion, no race, no stockpile, no VIP, and the "insane" gametype that was introduced in Halo Reach that was the basis of a lot of good mini games. Also because there are no equipment or armor abilities it makes it far harder to make minigames or puzzle maps in forge. Halo 5 sucked for customs games, it didn't matter that it had a better map editor because there was nothing you could do with it.

>>383656573
>drop warzone
So remove the only interesting thing 343i did with Halo 5? Cool.

>>383676919
There's a race playlist for autists that want more wacky game modes in their shooter.

>>383677028
Halo has always been a social shooter. Where have these delusions of it being the dorito MLG world championship shooter come from? Is this the 343 crowd?

>>383676919
>Also because there are no equipment or armor abilities it makes it far harder to make minigames or puzzle maps in forge.
Custom games in Halo 3 were the peak of custom games and they had no abilities. don't blame the game for the community being completely bankrupt of creativity.

>>383677705
Halo 3 had equipment dipshit, but I noticed you purposefully left that out.
Also "peak of custom games", someone didn't play reach customs.

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>>383659039
>A blue omnipotent being that doesn't have any clothes.

Yea i think her being a bimbo might be in the eyes of the beholder.

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>>383655796
>Destiny is shit
Not at all. It had a rocky 1st year, yes, which you are free to call shit, but it's undeniable the game went through massive (good) changes from TTK onward.
At worst it's a decent game now.

>Destiny 2 will be shit
Not sure why you said that. I haven't seen a single person that disliked the new Strike, in fact quite a few said it was better than anything in Destiny1, and PvP seems like a huge step forward too.

343i on the other hand never released a good product, even outside of games their books and other adaptations have been shoddy at best. But when it comes to games (their most relevant projects) MCC was a huge disaster, much more than Destiny was day1, and is still heavily flawed to this day. Halo4 was shit and instead of improving with time, like Bungie did with Destiny, Halo5 was somehow even WORSE than Halo4. So much so that it sold like shit (for a Halo game) and the series is on hiatus. MS probably realized how truly shit 343i is and aborted the second Halo triology on its 2nd game. Halo6 will only be out by 2019 at BEST, but probably 2020 because 343i need 2x the time to make a game half as good as a Bungie Halo game.
There's no excuse to Halo4/5's shittiness. Bungie was also rushed on time to make both Halo2 and 3 and yet both games are beloved. 343i can't release a good game to save their lives, I very much doubt Halo6 will be any better even with the 4 to 5 years of development they got.

>even though Halo 5 had many faults it was still a massive step up from Halo 4
What's this meme about? Getting rid of split-screen is a step up? Lootboxes microtransactions is a step up? Get the fuck out of here. They are SO incompetent that they couldn't even release Forge with the game, they literally rushed it out once again before it was complete and people had to wait moths for Forge, by then most already left (rightfuly so)

>>383658743
>The only.things good were the art design and music.
And the raids, and the PvP, and the gameplay.
The micro transactions literally are dances and shit.

>>383659908
>super homely

i don't think you know what that means

>>383678160
the first year was literally the best and the Vault of Glass Raid was the best.

>>383678284
>and the PvP
For the company that made Halo 1-3, Destiny is a clusterfuck for multiplayer. PvP and PvE should have been separate from each other. At the very least PvP should have been much more controlled. There were just too many elements due to the game's rng not just on what equipment you get but also the individual stats on equipment was also RNG. Every single patch changes the meta, nerfs are handed out with out any playtesting for classes and for weapons. One shotgun is being used too much? Better just nerf damage for all shotguns. Players complaining that smoke grenades are too OP? Nerf them into oblivion and make them functionally useless.

Not to mention the game is p2p. Dedicated servers would improve the experience tremendously.

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>>383679269
I agree in that Nightfalls in year1 were so much more fun, especially the first one ever when everyone had 24 light on average. VoG is also my favorite raid, although the RoI's raid is just as good IMO.
PvP was also fun because it was so fucking broken, and I got to experience the un-nerfed Vex Mythoclast.

However everything else about Year1 was inferior compared to now. Year1 (actually, just the first month of release) was very fun because everyone was learning the game and exploring the different systems and mechanics, but once the hype and the freshness of it all settled in the flaws were pretty obvious.

>>383679542
>actually, just the first month of release
>tfw camping loot cave
>getting that op icebreaker

>>383679269
I have no problem admitting that Destiny Y1 had some problems. it was harder. Not just in terms of fighting enemies, but the game did go out of its way to almost punish you for playing. The individual class materials instead of universal armor mats, having to return to the tower to turn in bounties, legendaries decrypting as blues, the hours of patrol routes for planetary mats, kicked to Orbit when you wipe on Nightfalls. Because of all that, though, it made clearing VoG seem like a much bigger feat. Then Crota came along and was a glorified strike that people have solo'ed using fucking rockband drums. I think the lack of streamlining back then made it an almost completely different game. Obviously its better now that the game is more functional but in a way I miss some of the shittiness.

>>383655796
If Halo 5 is a massive step up from Halo 4, that just means its on top of the trash pile. Nothing 343 has created came even close to what made the Bungie games magic, and at this rate they never will.

>>383678284
>the PvP
Only with friends. And I still won't say it's that great. The lag when Iron Banner starts is fucking awful. And going Trials of Osiris was a good idea but it was plagued by Destinys garbage ass game mechanics. The 1KYS era of ToO was fucking awful. I've never been so bored in my life going flawless. I really hope Bungie finds some way to balance pvp and pve in Destiny 2. They just love to nerf the ever living shit out of pve weapons just to "balance" pvp.

Its all garbage desu reach was the last good halo game and bungie game and ita gonna stay that way

>>383679542
>I got to experience the un-nerfed Vex Mythoclast
I've never felt so OP in my life. Unlubed anal rape to anyone I aimed at. It was even more fun that pre-nerf suros regime

Halo 5 is fucking garbage

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>>383680518
Speaking of year1, I wish Destiny2 had vehicles in PvP while avoiding creating shit long-range-only maps for them, somehow.

>>383681090
Bungie made tons of BTB maps that were just a big bowl that lets you snipe every spawn point on the map. How the fuck did that map even happen? There was no incentive to even use the vehicles when you could dominate everything ranged.

>>383659056
in its current state, yes it is.

>>383681090
How come nobody talks about Destiny with any real fondness like Halo? Nobody quotes it, talks about the intricacies of its lore, nothing like people do with Halo. Is its story not interesting?

>>383682152
Destiny's lore is extensive and super interesting. The problem is that none of it is in game. You have to go to Bungie's website to view lore 'cards' that have small snippets of world building on them. The rumor mill has it that the story was scrapped and restarted within the year of the game's release so the cards were there just to keep as much of the non-main story info from being thrown out. As far as quoting it, though, I'm sure you've heard
>I don't even have time to explain why I don't have time to explain

Which is a 100% real line of dialogue form the game and was heavily derided by the community because of how scattered and disjointed Y1 Destiny's story was.

>>383668018
>>383668649
>>383667951
Are people actually upset about not playing as chief? The dude rarely spoke much in the halo series beyond basically regurgitating the next objective to the player. Do people actually need to play as him or is it more people don't want an unnecessary story/character arc included into the game?

>>383683092
I remember people being surprised and a little pissed that half of Halo 2 was focused on some random elite. It turned out that the Arbiter was a bad ass character in his own right and was actually allowed to have a voice because he wasn't Chief, which went a long way. There was simply nothing about Locke that was interesting. It was a "twist", playing as another character besides Chief, that had already been done far better and with a much more interesting premise.

>>383675950
This is such fucking horseshit man. Chief can easily kick fucking lumps out of this cunt and 343 make it look like fucking shit. God Halo 3 was truly the end of this franchise.

>>383683092
It's a combination of many things. Halo 5 was hyped it by trailers and such to be the hunt of the century. Locke vs Chief. Then there is very little "hunting," and when it happens it's over and done with. Then you have the AI companions for both Chief and Locke who get barely any development whatsoever. So the game spends lines of dialogue, cutscene time, etc. on underdeveloped characters instead of focusing on Locke and the Chief. Remember when Locke says to Buck,
>You're not the only one who's here because of him
? Imagine if throughout the game we saw, or even played, flashbacks of that event occurring. Imagine the climax of the flashback being Master Chief saving Locke at the cost of one of his Spartan II friends, and right after the flashback ends Locke calls out to the Chief for being AWOL. There's a clear lack of good pacing and direction.

All that said, yes, many people held disdain for the Arbiter despite him being a very well developed character simply because was not the Chief.

>>383683419
There is also this. A combination of things as I said. According to lore (that I haven't read), Locke should not have held his own at ALL against Chief. Not one bit. Spartan IIs outclass Spartan IVs by light years word has it.

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>>383675950
>Locke calls Chief sir even though Chief is enlisted UNSC and Locke's a fucking ONI officer

>>383683584
It's edited you goose.

https://youtu.be/t1vPFXQC9J8?t=68

>>383683490
That line refers to Chief stopping the ark, anon. Everyone is alive in the entire galaxy because of Chief. Characters like Laskey were directly saved by Chief's hand, though, which is why Laskey refused to arrest Chief in Halo 4 against the Captain's wishes.

>>383683908
The photography, delivery, and editing doesn't reflect that, as much as that makes sense. Locke's delivery sounds like he's making a point to Buck that Chief personally saved him.

>>383672713
I actually really liked 4. The music they used was top tier and it was quite impressive visually when it was released. The campaign definitely wasn't in the original trilogy's league but it was still interesting seeing the Chief appear to be more human and watching how strained his relationship with Cortana got as she got more and more rampant. There's also something about the multiplayer I really enjoyed but it's been so long since I played I've forgotten what it was.

Halo 5 felt like such a disappointment. The campaign was the worst of the series in my opinion. It felt too short and you played as Osiris way more than you played as Blue team. The multiplayer didn't keep me entertained for very long but I had some fun with it while it lasted.

I know it was just to excuse armor variations in multiplayer, but S2's going out and getting new armor beyond the standard issue will forever irritate me. Blue Team especially.

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>>383684047
Going further, that really makes 343's handling of Captain Surrenderthatai even worse. Why they didn't create a likable captain who butts heads with the Chief but holds a strong rapport with Lasky, who gives Lasky the Infinity with his dying breath, is beyond me. I can't tell you how hard I sighed when Lasky tells you the equivalent of "the captain got written out of the game so I can be in charge and help you."

adversely
>halo CE is amazing
>halo 2 is amazing
>halo 3 is amazing
>halo reach is amazing
>halo ODST is good
>halo 4 is shit
>halo 5 is ok

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Playing H2 on legendary right now and jesus christ the start of the gravemind level is nuts. And no I don't have the invis because MCC.

>>383685575
>halo ODST is good
I went back and replayed ODST recently and I didn't remember it being so short. Not including Firefight in the MCC was a fucking travesty.

>>383655796
Destiny was mediocre. Destiny Raid DLC was pretty good.

Destiny Taken King was actually very solid.

Destiny Taken King without any content additions forever was WoD tier.

Destiny 2 will probably be pretty solid and have strong DLC.

>343 releases 4, blatantly ripping off other popular multiplayer shooters
>it makes lots of money but player retention is fucking abominable and the game is dead within months
>343 releases MCC, the one thing that would surely save the franchise after the disaster of Halo 4
>it's totally broken
>343 scraps some of these mechanics and doubles down on others, again copying what's popular in other shooters for Halo 5
>they have a huge marketing campaign to hype Halo 5's story
>people have been burned too many times and the launch is a letdown compared to 4
>the campaign is a disaster that has nothing to do with the marketing
>the game launches with next to no maps, gametypes, and modes
>these movement mechanics are being scrapped from other popular shooters anyway
>player retention is still terrible

How do they consistently fuck up time and time again?

>>383686480
It's so sad too because Forge gets more and more robust with each iteration so we're getting more control over the ability to create maps but there's nobody to fucking play them.

>>383685575
>>halo 4 is shit
>>halo 5 is ok
???

While I liked the visuals of Halo 5 and I appreciated the gameplay being changed even if it wasn't necessarily better the story was really shit.

I don't even really like game stories, they are disposable trash, but literally nothing is explained and the ending is literally KEPT YOU WAITING HUH BUY 6.

I have a question about Halo reach and how it connects to CE
In the end of Reach we see Noble 6 hand over Cortana to the pillar of autumn
nomore than an hour could have passed between the pillar of autumn taking off and arriving near reach
but in the beginning of CE we see that Cortana is already familliar with master chief when it should hae been their first time meeting and she is also familliar with Cmmander Keyes when they would've known eachother an hour tops.

>>383686890
*arring near Halo

I'm bored of Halo. I put multiple thousands of hours into it across every game, but I don't find it very fun anymore. 5 isn't bad, I just have no drive to play it anymore.

>>383686702
It's not hard to get lobbies.

>>383686824
>I don't even really like game stories, they are disposable trash
>Halo 2's story
>disposable trash
Pick one.

>>383686890
Cortana is an experimental AI based on the brain of Dr Halsey. Halsey was project lead of the S2's and had a relationship with Captain Keyes. She's Miranda Keyes' mother. I believe the games allude to Cortana retaining some of her memories from halsey but it's hard to say due to Halsey and Cortana having the same VA so any time one is speaking about memories of the past, you never know 100%. that would Cortana's intimate knowledge of both. That, or the fact that she's a super AI that can "think" thousands of thoughts per second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f91ozP8cTpo

>>383687373
Both are applicable.

>>383687452
Nope. Would love to hear arguments.

>>383685575
ODST and Reach were shit

>>383686749
I know bungie didn't make them, i'm pointing out bungie have been consistently quality and 343 havent

>>383687709
Reach wasn't shit. Like you, I didn't like at all where they took the gameplay and the maps were bad, but it was an extremely well designed game and I can respect that, and possibly the most popular halo

>>383687721
No I mean what is the logic behind Halo 4 being worse than 5? Multiplayer? Story? If story, you're dead wrong. If multiplayer, you're good.

>>383687653
The first game already tied the story up nicely. And who gives a shit about the aliens and their motives?

>>383683092
Yeah you want a game that shoves character development down your throat, go play some shitty PlayStation exclusive, shit doesn't belong in Halo. One of the few things Halo 4 did right.

>>383687849
>and possibly the most popular halo
How old are you?