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It's not our fault, its ______ that is causing the shortage!

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Just like it wasn't your fault with the NES classic...

And just like it won't be your fault with the SNES Classic...
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don't care. as long as there are shortages, i get richer from scamming nintendo kiddies
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The NES Classic wasn't a shortage it was a limited run. You knew that, right? You're not really this stupid, right?
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>>383642906
I think there is no shortage at all. They just don't have money to build enough Switchs so to save face they blame everything.
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>>383643098
This is the dumbest take yet, thank you
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>>383643098
They haven't actually blamed anyone, it is media covering the components shortage that found it out.
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>Have access to Nintendo for questions.
>Ask about the artificial scarcity meme.
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You'll buy it anyway.
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>>383643098
>theres no shortages, there's just <thing i made up that if real would cause shortages>
oh?
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I don't blame them for this. I blame the people that are angry because they cannot buy their toy now. Like kids having their tantrums.
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They didn't plan/want to make more NES Classics. They do want to make more Switches (because then they can, you know, sell them for $300). Kind of a big difference.

>>383643098
How fucking retarded are you? Nintendo has has multiple billions of dollars (not yen) in cash reserves.
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>>383643610
I blame the mining companies for being the choke point. This was a long time coming and they should have been scaling up faster
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>>383643098
I spotted the Sony Pony, everyone!
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>>383643012
You are aware that some of the people buying your stuff aren't always fanboys, right? Some of them are lower to middle class working parents trying to buy their kid a toy.
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>Nintendo discontinues the NES classic mini, a system that was in massive demand, hugely profitable and never stayed on store shelves for more than 5 minutes
>Reason: "We can only make so many things"
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>>383643012
You know they're going to reject scalpers by the bulk right?
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>>383643098
Imagine being this retarded
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>>383645579
It's not too far off. Both are made with ARM parts.
It's just that Switch happens to use NVidia's tech on top of that.
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I believe it's a combination of them being cheap bastards and competitors like Apple and Samsung and so many other companies using the same components they are but ordering them at a much hirer and more profitable volume
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>>383645619
SNES classic begs to differ
>>383645457
always fanboys. i'd show you my list of buyers but i dont want to lose repeat business since im 100% sure they browse /v/.

so far made over 1200 bucks from 6 switches. can't imagine how much the SNES classic will earn me
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>>383645457
>tfw some guy working a shitty job just wants to buy his kid a Switch but scalpers make it $500
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>>383645579
It's difficult to tell the true demand of Nintendo products. They attract scalpers because scalpers know Nintendo does extremely conservative production. So if Nintendo had produced enough minis to meet legitimate demand, they might have had an excess of units and lost money.

IMO it's hard to determine the true demand right now for the Switch (in NA) just due to scalpers watching stock like hawks and lapping them up, preventing actual consumers a chance to buy them.
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>>383645856
Is for the better.
Nintendo consoles turn people into brainwashed autists. That kid was saved from a grim fate.
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"shortages"
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>>383646008
Mexican detected.
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>>383646008
So why aren't you scalping iPhones?
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>>383646194
Apple is too powerful.
They have ninja assassins hunting scalpers
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>>383646035
these pictures don't tell enough for anyone to conclude what you want them to conclude. for all we know, that autist happened to be there at the right time, and those Switchies in the cagies got purchased by the end of the day.
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>>383646391
Really makes you think
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>>383642906
I mean, the Switch uses NAND memory, and there's an industry-wide shortage of that at the moment, it's hardly a secret. Are we just supposed to pretend that's a non-issue?
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>>383646719
>leaf

and no, it really doesn't. we can actively check local inventories right now with brickseek and istock, so your meme pics mean nothing.
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>>383646008
The same thing can be said about the PS4, I mean, look at how brainwashed the fanbase is.
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>>383647857
Not really.
I still have to see the Sony fanbase crying over the company's CEO's death.
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>It's not our fault we used a highly sought component in our console, it's Apple!
>It's not our fault we charge for online multiplayer, it's Microsoft and Sony!
>It's not our fault games cost more on Switch, it's production costs for using cartridges!
>It's not our fault we stopped production on the NES Mini, it's the scalpers!
It's so fucking cringeworthy seeing people defend Nintendo. And before you shitpost, I own a Switch.
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>>383647857
>Nintenbros are manchildren or literal children.
>Sonybros are brainwashed or subhuman niggers.

Nobody wins.
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>>383648078
...you know he worked as a developer for a lot of loved games right
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>>383645793
you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>383650006
ignore him, he's full-blown edgy
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>>383650048
Do I?
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/11/nes-mini-teardowns-have-begun-chips-identified/
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>>383651126
First of all, the shortage Nintendo is having with the Switch is the eMMC flash memory (the "hard drive" that stores the OS and any eshop games)

ARM is an architecture, like x86. You can't have a shortage on a particular architecture. If there was a shortage that affected SoCs, it would be something like a silicon shortage that would be affecting all chips.
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>>383649217
You're right.
There is absolutely NO WAY that a company with a net worth of 752 Billion dollars may have a higher component/product margin than a company who's net worth is 32 Billion dollars.

No, It couldn't possibly put a compliance distress tug of war on hardware manufacturers.
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>>383642906
I believe them. If it was artificial scarcity, they would've stayed silent. Why is everyone in denial that the Switch is doing well? Was it autism?
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I think Kimishima is just stingy and wanted to buy components at jew prices. I'm pretty sure they have money to outbid other smaller mobile companies.
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>>383643098
This post is a pure 10, cant get dumber than this.
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>>383643098
Thanks for this.
I was actually kinda unhappy today, but now that I know I'm not this fucking stupid I'm good.
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>>383651543
>its ok when nintendo does it
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>>383645831
I hope you do well my boy.
Just remember that I love you.
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>>383651338
>If there was a shortage that affected SoCs, it would be something like a silicon shortage that would be affecting all chips.
oh like how ps4 had a cell in it for backwards compatibility, and ps3 is still produced today?

it's just silicon, after all
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>>383647094
There's not a switch within 60 miles of me. Nice
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>>383646719
>IMG_20170618_204635.jpg

You've been usign this for a month. Why don't you go to the store again and take a fresh one, dumb autist
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>>383651626
what you think is completely irrelevant. And seeing as you are apparently dumb enough to believe it's nintendo vs smaller companies i doubt that fact will change.
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Just for you OP,

Date/Time Status
Jul 11 - 10:37 PM EST Amazon CA : Switch w/Gray Joy-Con Out of Stock
Jul 11 - 10:25 PM EST Amazon CA : Switch w/Gray Joy-Con In Stock for $399.99
Jul 11 - 10:25 PM EST Amazon CA : Switch w/Blue & Red Joy-Con Out of Stock
Jul 11 - 10:20 PM EST Amazon CA : M EST Amazon CA : Switch w/Gray Joy-Con Out of Stock
Jul 11 - 10:15 PM EST Amazon CA : Switch w/Blue & Red Joy-Con Out of Stock
Jul 11 - 10:10 PM EST Amazon CA : Switch w/Blue & Red Joy-Con In Stock for $399.99

Switch stayed on stocvk for a whole 12 minute. it's DEAD i tell you
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>>383642906
It's also retailers faults because they don't prevent scalpers from buying them all

my manager even said the following "A sale's a sale" they literally do not care and make no effort to put any policy in place to prevent scalpers from doing their thing.

I don't even give a shit about these systems because for one I know emulation exists, and two the switch has no games and thus no value.
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>>383643012
I can go to any store and find a Switch. How are scalpers making money?
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Did this faggot really start this console wars thread again?
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>>383652802
i dunno, Clearly you are a retard for not doing it since it's so easy

Poor dum dum
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>>383645457
If they're spoiling their kid enough that they buy a game console at markup higher than it's regular price then they deserve to lose all their money.
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>>383645619
false, most stores just want their sales, a scalper's money is just as green as anyone else's.
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>>383642906
Just wait for the revision
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>>383646719
>$400
wtf
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Who's making up the "shortages" boogieman?

Are people connected to tubes in their home that only Amazon exists to them?
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>>383653094
The Nintendo Vita?
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>>383643012
>selling someone an item that they're willing to pay for
>scam
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>>383653094
This is a retarded revision, good thing you don't work for nintendo
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>>383642906
>Just like it wasn't your fault with the NES classic...
I honestly think they understimated the demand. Seriously, why so many people wanted that shit?
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>>383653454
>sell switch for twice the price
>not scam
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>>383653524
After the Wii U, they expected everyone to be over Nintendo, so they under estimated everything.
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>>383653094
I don't think a revision's happening for a while, not until 2019 at least.

Also needing a phone app isn't a hardware issue, it's because DeNA is a smartphone developer who only knows how to make phone shit.
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>>383653094
>joycons permanently attached
i'm sorry but this will never fucking happen, it removes the entire wiimote-style motion control capability of the console
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>>383653773
yeah and doing that would probably bring the price and manufacturing costs down
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>>383652710
without knowing how many units were sold in those 12 minutes, it's meaningless
we already know that nintendo has shipped far less switches per month than they did in their initial month, and that was 2.74 million

I wouldn't be surprised if amazon.ca got only a few thousand units at any given time
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should have preordered if you really wanted one.

its still a zelda machine for me but i paid the curiosity tax of the full launch price to have it first hand. It was very nice to play breath of the wild in tabletop mode while in bed. cant wait to play mario odyssey day 1 with no worries of grabbing a console as well.
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>>383653549
I don't see how that's a scam. If a customer is willing to pay more than the MSRP for something other than a necessity, then it's their choice.
If that's a scam then Nintendo's practice of demand-pull inflation is equally as fraudulent.
>capitalism is a scam
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>>383646035
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/1aUx0cJG4D_lVEz4j7kL4Q/
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>>383653896
Undoubtedly, but it introduces compatibility issues where the switch pocket wouldn't be able to play the entire switch library.

More importantly, it abandons the Switch's central concept and introduces consumer confusion. Which really fucked Nintendo up with the Wii U.

I think it could happen eventually, but that particular revision won't be coming for several years at the least.
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>>383653971
I mean there are dozens everywhere, apparently. Except not there. aha, woops
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>>383646719
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/luOAcUThi2fEVGbUo5U4bQ/
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>>383642906
I could care less about console wars and think that nintendo puts out some quality content, but it's inexcusable to still have a hard time finding a Switch. Expect them to churn them out around Christmas.
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>>383654443
september should be the time where they actually can ramp up production, simply because Apple will have released their shit and probably will slow down producing them
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>>383654443
I'm not having a hard time find Switches. I see them in every store I walk into. People are creating a false narrative because Amazon is out of stock.
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>>383654239
>Undoubtedly, but it introduces compatibility issues where the switch pocket wouldn't be able to play the entire switch library.

what? It would be able to play zelda, mario and others that don't use the gimmick
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>>383649217
>>It's not our fault we used a highly sought component in our console, it's Apple!
>>It's not our fault we charge for online multiplayer, it's Microsoft and Sony!
>>It's not our fault games cost more on Switch, it's production costs for using cartridges!
>>It's not our fault we stopped production on the NES Mini, it's the scalpers!
>It's so fucking cringeworthy seeing people defend Nintendo. And before you shitpost, I own a Switch.

Just so you know you do know more than just Apple uses 32 gig emmc/UFS storage . LG, Samsung etc all use in their devices as well and our 10x-20x times bigger than Nintendo.

Who you think manufacturers going to listen to first a small console maker or conglomerate companies like above who can guarantee they need over 50-70 million units of this for use in multiple devices.
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>>383654685
Sheit niggah, i mean, i never seen one on the shelves myself, but apparently you did, so woah
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>>383645831
>Not having a job
>scamming others out of their hard earned money
>inb4 "I have a job I just like making extra money for no work"
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>>383654783
>small console maker
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>>383654798
Exactly. It probably only has shortages in very specific localized areas. Most the world can buy them if they wanted one.
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>>383654727
Yes, but there are still games it wouldn't be able to play, and it would be necessary for Nintendo to address that somehow.

Plus, how much do you think it would REALLY save? I don't think all the redundant joycon components add up to more than $30.
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>>383653165
400 Canadian bucks
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>>383654815
gotta fatten my wallets boyo

what are you gonna do about it?
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>>383654870
Compared to apple, samsung etc, yes

You seems unaware that Apple is worth about 20 times + more than Nintendo.
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>>383643426
Yeah they should be asking the important questions, like WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT 3DS KIRBY GAME SUPPOSED TO BE
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>>383654948
lol

that niggah
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>>383653094
>joycons permanently attached
>pocket
More like bag, putting that thing on your pants will for shure break the analog stick
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>>383645579
Scalpers are sitting on warehouse levels of stock on the NES Mini to this day, even if Nintendo makes more of that shit the scalpers will just lap it up again. To be frank, Nintendo's fine with that because it means that they're getting their money either way, it's up to the scalpers to then try and sell off their units.
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>>383655003
Nothing, I got a Switch day 1 and didn't pay a scumbag scalper
I'm just letting you know you're a piece of shit
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>>383646035
You have been posting this one for almost a month now
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>>383642906
>nintenbabies keep calling the switch a console
>the shortages are because it uses the same components as a phone
It's a handheld with a dock.
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>>383655276
noted but not heeded
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>>383655205
Why the fuck can't Nintendo just sell directly?

I'll tell you why: This isn't about making money. Not the NES, anyway. The NES was made to sell out and be a hot item that made headlines for Nintendo. If they were really interested in selling it, they WOULD sell them directly and they would never be discontinued.

Just use your brain. It's the only consistent explanation
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>>383655205
Nintendo has forced themselves into this future since the amiibos.
Nintendo could be making 50 million units, and they would all still get scalped.
The only way out is to make way more units than the demand will ever be to stabilize scalpers to have to sell below MSRP.
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>>383651626
You know what, if I was the head of Nintendo I would totally do that. Pay for shit using loose change and set a price ceiling on your supply list can be a good way to maximize profits, plus after the Wii U almost caused them to hit a sinkhole it'd definitely be the smart move to run into shortages than overstocking units.
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Thanks again /v/ for reminding me yet again that this board is nothing but 16 to 22 year old friendless NEETs
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>>383653094
>5.1 inch screen
The Joycons would be tiny and would only work for manlets
>D-pad
You haven't even used Joycons have you? The separate buttons work great
>Joycons permanently attached
Multiplayer games would be unplayable without a second controller, and if wanting not wanting to take your Joycons out is something you like, I suggested gorilla glue
>OLED screen
Screen looks fine as it is
>Symmetrical analog sticks
Only good for shooters, which the Switch has 0 of. Or only good for platformers if you get your stupid D-pad
>Chat with friends without using Nintendo's phone app
Use Discord, Facetime, Skype or literally anything else
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>>383653094
>>>383642906 (OP)
>Just wait for the revision
This design is retarded Nvidia won't use the new process to make tegra x1 smaller. They already did a revision of the ship it.isnt getting any smaller than what they have now.

Most likely Nvidia will use Standard Arm 73-75 cores and their own custom GPU. Even Qualcomm gave up making their own custom CPU. Tegra x1 doesn't even have hmp either. (Heterogeneous Multiprocessor) so expect that to be added to the next chip.

The switch can only use 4 big cores out big little which is an 8 core chip configuration unless Nvidia and Nintendo decided to enable HMP. But I doubt it because of heat of using arm 57 cores which are extremely power hungry compared to current phones that use arm 73 cores.
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>>383645579
>NES classic
>HUGELY PROFITABLE xD!
Fucking how? With material cost, shipping and storage, and licensing for the third party games they probably made a few bucks per unit.
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>>383642906
>shortage!
?
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>>383651338
>>383654783
There is no EMMC chip shortage.
They just want Samsung branded chips instead of Toshiba or Hynix

They're exactly the same, but Nintendo refuses to source from other manufacturers.
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>>383655732
>The Joycons would be tiny and would only work for manlets
Nintendo's primary demographic is children
>You haven't even used Joycons have you? The separate buttons work great
t. ultra casual
>Multiplayer games would be unplayable without a second controller, and if wanting not wanting to take your Joycons out is something you like, I suggested gorilla glue
The Switch is already unplayable in table top mode. Two people can't enjoyably look at a 6" screen because it's too fucking small to see anything. A screen that size is only playable as a handheld
>Screen looks fine as it is
I bet you think BotW doesn't look washed out either
>Only good for shooters, which the Switch has 0 of. Or only good for platformers if you get your stupid D-pad
Honestly agree with the stick placement, I think it's fine as is. R-stick is uncomfortable to reach but it's better than the face buttons being there
>Use Discord, Facetime, Skype or literally anything else
You're such a fucking apologist
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>>383655938
>There is no EMMC chip shortage
Oh wow hmm I guess all those reports that there is a shortage are just totally made up, and you, the industry insider, have the real story
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>>383655938
You always stick to one brand, otherwise you're opening yourself up for disparity of components.
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>>383654974
>Yes, but there are still games it wouldn't be able to play, and it would be necessary for Nintendo to address that somehow.

Switch Sticks, sold seperately!
Only $49.99!
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>>383655901
I want to put them in a pile and rub them on my body
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>>383656014
>The Switch is already unplayable in table top mode. Two people can't enjoyably look at a 6" screen because it's too fucking small to see anything. A screen that size is only playable as a handheld
Confirmed never actually played a Switch with anyone else, probably because you don't have any friends.
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>>383655732
>>D-pad
>You haven't even used Joycons have you? The separate buttons work great
what a LOAD of bullshit

even the pro controller has a shitty Dpad. I hate the seperate buttons, especially for platformer games
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>>383656014
>I bet you think BotW doesn't look washed out either
It's not washed out though. It's incredibly vibrant on the switch screen and my TV.
The videos showing washed out visuals have the switch set as the default automatic color range, which basically keeps the switch output as limited.
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>>383656027
go on alibaba right now.
Search 32GB EMMC

There's like 500 listings with 100,000 units in stock for $2 each.

They're ALL Hynix and Toshiba.

The samsung ones are the only ones in shortage.

I can understand not wanting to use Hynix, as they have a bad rep, but Toshiba are rock solid.
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>>383642906
ive been getting alerts for switches being able to be bought for msrp for 3 days in a row, you're just not being proactive enough if you want one
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>>383656229
People that spout shortages are only doing it for shitposting.
>go to amazon.com
>search: nintendo switch
>out of stock
>"there's a worldwide shortage guys, nintendo better leave the console business soon because i want to play zelda and mario on my ps4"
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>>383656217
It just varies
Some locations are foggier/mistier than others. Also weather and time of day. I've seen incredibly vibrant, clear locations and locations that look like someone went into my TV settings and literally cranked the brightness to max and contrast to min

I'll take a screenshot next time I find a shitty area and you can go there and look yourself
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>>383655938
>>>383651338
>>>383654783 (You)
>There is no EMMC chip shortage.
>They just want Samsung branded chips instead of Toshiba or Hynix
>They're exactly the same, but Nintendo refuses to source from other manufacturers.

No they aren't exactly the same when Samsung gets chips from Toshiba there was a big issue that some were ufs 2.0 and some were ufs 2.1 with the Galaxy S8 and s8+
http://bgr.com/2017/05/08/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-specs-exaggerated-storage/
The samething with Huawei when some phones had UFS and some phones had the slower storage like emmc 5.1. Some phones even had ddr3 instead of DDR 4 memory https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-admits-p10-and-p10-plus-can-feature-memory-chips-with-different-specifications/
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>>383656014
>Nintendo's primary demographic is children
Keep thinking that, if you saw the Switch reveal you would've seen no children at all, just young adults
Also keep in mind an adult made this image, not a child
>t. ultra casual
Ironic considering you're whining about having a D-pad when there's literally nothing wrong with the separate buttons
>The Switch is already unplayable in table top mode. Two people can't enjoyably look at a 6" screen because it's too fucking small to see anything. A screen that size is only playable as a handheld
You do realize you can use two separate Joycons in docked mode right? I don't know what playing in tabletop mode has to do with not being able to play multiplayer games without having to buy another controller
>I bet you think BotW doesn't look washed out either
It really doesn't maybe your Switch has a weird screen tint or you need to adjust your TV settings
>Honestly agree with the stick placement, I think it's fine as is. R-stick is uncomfortable to reach but it's better than the face buttons being there
Thanks
>You're such a fucking apologist
Cry harder that I'm just shitting all over OP's shit "revision" unless it was yours in which case kys
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>>383642906
>NES Classic
>SNES Classic
it's time for retards like you learn what "Limited Run" means
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>>383656483
Places in the lost woods and cloudy weather are always washed out for obvious reasons. Night time death mountain and clear day hyrule in general are vibrant as fuck.
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>>383656551
you know too much
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>>383656147
I only play single player games, has nothing to do with having friends

And it's not relevant. I've tried table top mode out, it's worthless. The screen is too small unless I hunch over and look right at it, which 2 people couldn't possibly do. It's just a really shitty gimmick idea that doesn't pan out. The reality is that a 6" screen is for personal use only. You can't entertain multiple people with a size that small

Yes, it """""works"""""", in the same way you can butter bread with a spoon. But given a real option, you wouldn't do it in practicality
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>>383642906
>he didn't attend the midnight release
if you wanted a switch that much, you'd have one already
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>>383656587
But other games have done fog and clouds without being washed out

I just think Nintendo didn't know wtf they were doing when it came to weather effects. In BotW it doesn't come across as fog. It comes across as a poorly calibrated image.
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I can't believe people are actually defending detachable joycons for tabletop mode
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>>383652786
Forgive me for using what is technically a food comparison, but the grocery store I work for just got these new flavor Twizzlers last week. They taste alright but it's not life-changing or anything, but the problem lies in the fact that nobody wants to buy them. Even the nasty ass BBQ Sauce Payday bars are selling just out of novelty, and we've been keeping them in the back out of shame. We've had these Twizzlers out both in the store lobby and in front of checkout, but we've barely sold even ten of them. Pretty soon my manager might have to slash their already low price to move out stock, and because it's something perishable and seasonal it may be very soon. If it isn't selling, then the person who ordered that amount of stock just wasted the store's money.
Your manager seems like he doesn't give a shit, but he's pretty thankful that at the very least he won't have to make a repeat with the Wii U and be stuck with at least a hundred Switch units sitting in the storage room collecting dust. You also have to keep in mind that he could be running into legal issues by barring/hindering the sale of certain items to certain individuals depending on where his place of business is at. Him telling a scalper that he can't clear out his stock could be considered the same as an Amazon seller not wanting to sell their items to somebody with the money to buy it just because the account is named xxXxxPenixFixtorxxXxx.
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>>383642906
Tell me, in a realistic setting, what would be the reasoning for a home-made shortage /v/? Stop acting retarded just to shit on nintendo. It makes 0 sense in any marketing strategy to continue a shortage after the release other than maybe losing money for some form of tax purposes.
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>>383652802
What stores? Ive never seen one. Im in south florida for comparison.
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>>383656828
it actually works out.
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>>383656828
>He doesn't have friends
kek
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>>383655427
Yeah but you’ll die alone anon
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>>383655476
>Why the fuck can't Nintendo just sell directly?
>Nintendo puts NES Mini on their online store
>Scalpers eat that shit out even quicker because they can do it from the comfort of their beds which are made from NES Minis.
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>>383657073
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What would Nintendo have to gain from having a shortage? If anything, theyre losing potential sales for not keeping up with demand.

Also the Switch shortages make sense, they're basically competing against mobile companies for their hardware.
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>>383656979
Target, as soon as they open is your best bet to find one.
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>>383655536
>The only way out is to make way more units than the demand will ever be to stabilize scalpers to have to sell below MSRP.
If they do that then not only do they themselves drive the value of their products down because of the abundance, but scalpers would then just be able to undercut them on the price of new units and make it so Nintendo still loses out to them in the end anyways.
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>>383657169
>limit 1 per address
Next
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If they ever make a revision, what would you want from it?
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>>383642906
notice how Nintendo hasn't made any of these announcements, only news blogs?
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>>383656587
Here's a great example. Just came from Goron city which looked fine, to this. This is fucking eye cancer. And yes my Switch is set to full range. They just didn't handle weather well, weather can be handled well but they're clearly incompetent
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Benefit of living in Straya:
Can literally go out whenever I want, to wherever I want, and buy WHATEVER I want. Thx nintendo
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>>383654443
>still
Anon manufacturing ain't magic. 3 months is basically the absolute minimum to increase production capacity, and Nintendo isn't a huge customer for most production lines. With the Wii it took them 5 months to boost capacity (and then it takes 6 weeks to ship stuff across the Pacific). There's a very real chance supply won't improve until September, even ignoring the component shortage.
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>>383657471
can we see a shot of this after Ruto is defeated?
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>>383657342
>PO Boxes
>Friend/Family addresses
>Workplace
If scalpers were ever hindered by any kind of "limit x amount per y variable" restriction they wouldn't be fucking scalpers.
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>>383657471
>comparing to concept art
really now
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>>383656828
You always have the option to buy a separate proper controller. It's just an out of box option you have for a lot of games which is only a bonus.
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>>383657342
Scalpers are pretty hardcore, mate. They rent multiple PO boxes for that kind of stipulation. It's a literal business for a lot people and how they make their money.
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>>383657471
I have the Wii U version of BOTW and it didn't look that washed out when I got to that part.
haha get it, washed out for a screenshot of the water area?
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>>383657606
>Don't ship to PO Boxes, like alot of companies
>Implying scalpers have 10 friends to send Switchs to
>Implying they have jobs
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>>383657314
Who are the scalpers buying from then?
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>>383654161
Finally someone who's not a fucking idiot

I'm a scalper and people just don't get it, as if I'm committing a crime
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>>383657806
>I'm a scalper
kys then get a job
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>>383657598
I will in a second
I already admitted it's the weather, it's not like I'm shitposting
But having washed out color during cloudy weather is not something that's inherent about cloudy weather
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>>383657908
It technically is a job. All shops sell at a profit.
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>>383658070
You're not a shop
And you're selling above MSRP
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>>383658046
never said you were shitposting
but maybe all the water from Ruta was bringing up some kind of mist or something
defeating it then taking a picture of the clearing when you can may or may not give us a decent comparison, but i'd say its worth a shot at least

now go kick waterblights ass
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>>383658124
and?

MSRP isn't law. It's there to tell customers that you are getting ripped off if they are selling to you more than that.
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>>383658070
You're a fucking pussy who can't handle the stock market, so you just do extremely safe shit like this. Kill yourself.
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>>383658289
So you admit you're ripping off people
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I have a theory

I dont think Nintendo is creating a shortage

Is just they are too imcompetent to actually produce enough units to fill with the demand

or they are just too scared that this could bomb like the WiiU and the console is going to be abandoned in the shelves for months, if not years
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>>383658314
>so you just do extremely safe shit like this
I'm not a scalper though, nor do I judge their character kindly. I'm just saying it's completely legal, but you're also a dick if you do it.
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>mfw when not amerifat or nip, so can buy one whenever I want
Get cucked
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>>383658359
I'm not a scalper though. I don't sacrifice money to make money.
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>>383645457
Fuck off with your fake ass poverty victim status white knight bullshit. Poor people are a fucking plague, let them suffer without their "toy". They aren't anymore deserving of it than someone who has a grip on their life.
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>>383658576
>I'm not a scalper
>>383657806
>I'm a scalper
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>>383658679
Too bad only one of those was a (you). I'm not the scalper.
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>>383646008
dude woke lmao
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>>383657606
Might be able to get a couple but professional scalpers sell hundreds. It would put a serious damper in any professional scalper's business

Face it, the shortage is by design. If Nintendo didn't want there to be a shortage, there wouldn't be one.
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>>383658489
technically everyone else can get one at any time as well thanks to the switch being region free

the only extra cost they'd need to pay would be shipping, and considering the degree of scalping it'd certainly be cheaper than buying locally

or am i missing a point
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I seriously want a law that bans scalping (to some extent, at least large scale), and overseen by the SEC. It's literally a parasitical relationship with the economy, and should be removed.
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>>383658070
>It technically is a job
Ransomware programming is a job too, when you rly think about it.
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>>383658970
It's up to the individual stores to setup 1 per customer.
The only other method would be banning above MSRP prices on ebay for any product still in production.

People will just cry "muh capitalism" though.
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>>383659201
Spreading malware is against the law. Selling above MSRP is not.
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>>383643012
ditto dude how much you got? i got 2.5k + a switch and all current games + zelda se
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>A console based around motion controls, better just make a few of these wii's incase it flops
>A home console and a handheld combined, not sure how this will go so we won't invest too much in production
>We're a little short on money, if we release a mini NES with a limited supply we'll retain the value of the titles while making just enough to cover future ventures

What is the mystery here?
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>>383659232
I never understood people bashing capitalism. It's bloody great thing, believe me you DON'T want whatever is NOT capitalism.
Been there, it's shit.
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>>383651876
Where did he say that phone poster?
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>>383659404
Some things like healthcare should be a human right though, regardless of if you can afford it or not.
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>>383659232
I'd be fine with that, at least set it up so that you need an investigation to establish some minimum level of re-selling products (that are still in production) before fines/arrests can be made.

And fuck the capitalism argument, anyone who uses that to support scalping should be fine with Ponzi schemes being legal because "lol it's capitalism it's good for you." I fucking hate socialism too, but people who say shit like "taxation is theft" and "all government regulations do is hold back innovation" are fucking retarded.
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>>383659629
>Some things like healthcare should be a human right though
If we had a real free market system healthcare would be affordable and efficient
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>>383659718
I agree, but that's an ideal world.
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>>383659629
How can it be a human right if it requires other people to provide them those services? Doesn't forcing someone to act against their will violate their human rights? It's impossible to hold two human rights when they contradict each other.

Healthcare should be a civil service provided to everyone in the community, similar to the library system (not necessarily in structure, but in concept).
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>>383659629
We have free healthcare here. Everyone sane just goes in paid hospitals instead.
Free healthcare means 5-6 hour long lines filled with people in small corridor.
That's not a great experience I gotta say. Not to mention that same "free hospital" requires some sort of money for various procedures anyway.
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>>383659978
Of course you'll pay if you had money. But a homeless person needs some sort of access.
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>>383660087
Sure, I guess. But free healthcare of any sort hardly ties in with "capitalism is EVIL" thing going on.
After there are perfectly capitalistic countries with free healthcare of sorts.
Healthcare itself is quite different subject compared to regular money/product/service thing
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it is apparently memory chips personally i say just release a version without the u2swless memory chip and let us use an sd card instead we already basically have to
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>>383658970
How would you distinguish between a scalper and someone who, say, buys a Switch, doesn't like it, and sells it
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>thread starts off about console shortages
>currently on healthcare
welcome to /v/ ladies and gentlemen
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>>383660607
pricetag
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>>383659404
Communist states weren't real Marx communism
And most of the socialist states in EU are just a remnant of the old eastern bloc that were a part of that pseudo communist shit
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>>383660607
that guy is an idiot stopping scalpers is as easy as having amazon and ebay disallow used electronics to be listed for higher than their MSRP
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>>383660662
A used Switch will go for more than MSRP simply because of supply and demand

There's really no way to distinguish between someone exercising their right to sell something they own and scalping

You could limit everyone to one, but say you have 2 kids and they both want to sell theirs, then what
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>>383660825
person who bought a thing, didn't like it and sells a thing - will want his money back, not to earn more.
Of course seeing prices he might be compelled to try and increase the price, but overall idea of unsatisfied consumer is to get his money back, the closer to 100% the better.
While scalpers seek only profit. Aka selling above price they bought.
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>>383656569
Limited Run is a fucking meme when you keep releasing them after the "limited run"
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>>383661069
I don't see rerelease of nes classics
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>>383653773
>it removes the entire wiimote-style motion control capability of the console
Who cares? 1-2 Switch! bombed even as units fly off the shelves, and I'm glad they got that out of the way so they don't have to waste time saddling other games with needless gimmicks.
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>>383661328
1-2 Switch sold 200k in Japan alone, you're a fucking retard.
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>>383660980
The thing is, you can't sell on marketplaces like ebay/amazon without taking a hit in commission fees. Ebay is 10%, amazon is more. If MSRP is $300 and that's what the person paid (more likely $325 or so after sales tax), then they'd have to sell for $361 to break even. Which just goes to show how little money there is to be made scalping Switches unless you live in a state without sales tax
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>>383655890
If the licensing fees were that big of an issue they wouldn't have added them. I'd reckon they made more than a few bucks per unit.
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>>383661615
huh, I'll be honest I don't know how ebay or amazon operates. You can't use them like this in my country, so the idea of selling used consoles (or any goods) for me is usually regular ad on some specific website like craiglist and then phonecall, meet up and buy one.
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>>383656941
>Your manager seems like he doesn't give a shit, but he's pretty thankful that at the very least he won't have to make a repeat with the Wii U and be stuck with at least a hundred Switch units sitting in the storage room collecting dust. You also have to keep in mind that he could be running into legal issues by barring/hindering the sale of certain items to certain individuals depending on where his place of business is at

I don't see how these two situations can be compared. The manager has the authority to stop the scalper abuse here and he's not doing anything about it. And other stores have enacted a limit of 1 purchase of X item per customer. So it's far less likely he's not acting out of legal reasons and infinitely likely he's not acting due to indifference; i.e. he doesn't give a shit.
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>>383661446
And it's already been outsold 2:1 by a port of Mario Kart that was released several months later. 1-2 Switch only got the benefit of being one of three launch games, if it came any other time it would be already forgotten.
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Scalpers deserve death.
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>>383643043
Said after the fact
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>>383662380
Poor kid looks like he shit his pants
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>>383645831
1200$ each? cause if not you're retarded
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I dont understand why people buy Switch from scalpers. Sure there is shortage but there is always going to be one near you around the week, just be fucking patient and dont pay to leechs.

I live in fucking Miami and manage to get one the exact day i got the money. It was the last one but i bought it around 8:00 PM so there had to be more early on ans i know for a fact other stores did have it in the morning but sold out at the end of the day. That was three weeks ago.
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>>383664302
Switches aren't even that much above MSRP
Time is money, it takes time to hunt them down. Driving around? That costs gas. For someone who wants one, it might be more worthwhile to buy from a scalper than spend hours/days hunting one and/or lots of gas
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>>383642906
the EB games near me has had about 5 switches in stock for a week
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>>383653094
no way they'll make the joycons permanent fixtures
those things are little colored cash cows
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>>383665759
how so?
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>>383642906
This is why the ps4 is selling like cakes.
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>>383642906
And just like it wasn't their fault with the Wii...
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