he literally did nothing wrong

>>383636082
Get out

As a 14 year old I hated him
As a 22 year old I respect him

I prank called him once in 2006 and while microwaving some popcorn and the bag of popcorn caught on fire, I didn't notice until after he hung up on me but the microwave was fuming smoke.

I had to explain afterwards to my parents that I ruined the microwave because I was crank calling a lawyer I saw on TV.

>>383636195
Then get the fuck out, you have nothing to do here.

>>383636195
How? I'm 25 and I still hate him. He bullshits his way through the "cases" and deserved to be disbarred

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he's /v/ personified.

He helped promote GTA and turned it into a cash cow that is ruining the industry with microtransactions and shit multiplayer.

>>383636082
I'd rather have people like him than SJWs.

Didn't he get disbarred for mailing gay porn to a judge?
Sounds like /ourguy/

>>383636082
Considering there are many people nowadays who genuinely consider Anita Sarkeesian to be an important visionary, this opinion doesn't surprise me at all.

>>383636082
He wanted the government involved in morality policing.

>>383636779
I'd rather have the SJWs as they are less threatening

>>383636082
I never really disliked him, I kinda like the guy now.
He was from a time were calling him and nut who didn't know what he was talking about was ok, he went on podcasts to shout back and forth with 20 something jorno's.
The guy's far from someone I'd argee but he was hard to hate.

>>383636965
I wouldn't. Thompson is one nagging voice in a crowd. SJWs are a brainwashed cult with their tentacles spread far and wide.

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>>383636274

>>383637171
If Anita got the same mockery that Thomson did and was willing to try and argue with with her critics people might be a bit more neutral towards her.

>>383636082
If you don't like something and instead of accepting that you try to stop everyone else from enjoying it you're a shitty person.

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>>383636779
>>383636965
I would rather not have either one.

>>383637529
ah, the /pol/ boogeyman guy. there he is, right on cue.

>>383637171
Thompson had the family values demographic and Hillary Clinton on his side you newfag, it wasn't just him alone

>>383636082
I liked to think that his rampant shitting on violent games made people stay away from vidya at least somewhat.

>>383637529
Thomason isn't /pol/ the only people who think he is are retard goons based on one random something awful piece.
He came pretty close to calling Bully racist over a screenshot of Jimmy beating up a black student.

>>383636082

You truly are lost if you actually think this guy was right.

SJWs or what ever the fuck they are all the same

>>383636779
>I'd rather have people like him than SJWs.
How young are you? What he was pushing was WAY fucking more threatening to games, and it was playing into an already overly-exaggerated older generation fear of games and "how they warp the minds of our children".

>>383636779

Jack was an SJW if you think about it

red pill me on this guy

>>383638339
You're too young to be posting here.

>>383637795
Clinton was angling for something much smaller than Thompson. The former wanted more red tape around sales to minors, and the latter wanted companies to stop producing games that were morally questionable entirely, to the point of taking them to court.

>>383638339
Lawyer who actively tried to "take down vidya" because "muh family values, muh violence" mainyl goin againts GTA

Got disbarred due to too many frivolous lawsuits about vidya

>>383638061
27.
I'm not saying I want him to be a respected voice, but most of the media treated him like a crank and he never got anywhere, he'd talk to people like Sterling and Ses who would both argue poorly on easy to defend views, and who would in turn get called the savors of gaming by there dumb fanboy's, JT was bad but the doublethink that surounds Anita is a lot more obnoxus.

>>383638580
Keyboard fucked up ... mainly going against GTA

>>383637529
why can't leftists come up with their own memes?

you literally just stole this one and changed his hair and tattoos

>>383636779
>I'd rather have people like him
With people like him there would be no videogames, you ugly cunt.

Thompson was a soccer mom before soccer moms became all 'videogames are bad for muh children'

He did everything for his own fame. People say he was the SJW of his time, but the reality is in many ways he was worse because his bitching actually had an effect on the industry at times. Congress paid attention to what people like him said.

>>383636082
>he literally did nothing
That about sums up his entire life

>>383638749
more like no more ultra-violent AAA garbage which i'm okay with

>>383638749
He exists, there are still video games, GTAV sold over 80 million, idiot.

>>383638874
Underage kekistani shitheads are pro censorship, what a shocker.

>>383636082
Well he got disbarred or whatever so he probably did something wrong.

And just as importantly - even though his actions may have been fine, his reasoning was not. Same as Anita. She didn't do anything "wrong" in the sense that she has every right to make shitty videos. It doesn't mean her premise is sound or that she was being intellectually honest.

People forget that he went on one man crusade against Bully.
Of all games FUCKING BULLY!

>>383638339

He was an oldschool moralfag. A massive moralfag who pushed his moralfaggotry on everyone.

>>383638929
What part of "people like him" are you struggling to grasp, you shortbus mouthbreather? I'd rather have thousands of Jack Thompsons killing the industry with libelous lawsuits than 1 retard like you who can't read.

>>383638874
So you want all games to specifically cater to your tastes. Got it.

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>>383638958
>>383639175

>>383639373
Not him but I don't want ANY games to stop being made. I want everything to be made.

>>383636779
>>383637171
name 5 games that were affected by sjws more than jack thompson affected a game

>>383638682
Because using altered /pol/ memes upsets them the most.

>>383639093
You could clone 1000 of him, give them each 10 million, send them all to law school and video games would still be a thing and doing well.

It's one thing to have an opinion. But another to force your opinion onto others and make others conform to your view.

So basically everyday here on /v/

SJWs, Jack Thompson, Islamisms, it's all the same thing. They're what CS Lewis called moral busybodies, people who felt they had a moral obligation to judge the perceived moral failings of everyone around them.

>>383639446
SJWs affected more games directly but JT changed the market as a whole

>>383636782
He tried to discredit the attorney arguing against him in a disbarment hearing by printing out and submitting as evidence a bunch of explicit gay porn ad images he'd claimed to have collected from the opposing attorney's personal page (he apparently had Google Adsense) as proof the attorney was acting on the wishes of the vindictive gay agenda to have him disbarred. The irony is that as a result Thompson himself was responsible for entering gay porn into the legal public record for everyone to see.

>>383639446
Name 1 thing Jack Thompson did that affected games.

>>383636725
GTA Online is fun.

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>>383639647
*blocks your fun*

>>>383638135

People assign SJW to mean leftist. But people like Jack Thomson and /pol/ are just as much as SJW, but for their own opposite politics. /pol/ wants social justice for whites, for men, and for their nation.

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MAGA

>>383639735
Benzies was a bit of a dick for being the guy focusing on online, but without him, all the updates have turned to total shit.

>>383638874
There is room for all types of games. It's fine to be tired of a trend, and it's fine to want a different type of game than what is available.

It's not fine to say a certain type of game "can't" or "shouldn't" be made. You don't have that authority, and mostly likely do not have a justification for it beyond "I don't like it".

Wasn't his counterpoint against a senator who said his arguments were bad just "you're a lesbian, so your opinion is invalid"

>>383638640
>but most of the media treated him like a crank and he never got anywhere
Your memory is very off. He was being used as a "legitimate" expert on the matter in mainstream media, including CNN (I know, I know, but the target audience would've taken it seriously, especially during those years) and such.

That's why people were very upset with him, because he was for some stupid reason being taken seriously by the news corps.

>>383636082
Remember when the games industry used to condition gamers to be against the kind of people that could hurt their profit margins? Now the barbarians are inside the gates.

>>383639446
name some games that were effected by JT
also
Fire Emblem Fates
God Of War whatever the second PS3 one was called
DOAX3
Overwatch
Might Number Nine of all things
SJW's all had a direct effect.
They quite likely had an effect on reboot Tomb Raider, the second Bravely Default, the newest Fatal Frame
The newest Berserk game
GTAV
I can likely find more.

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>studies show a conclusive link between aggressive behavior and video games
>FUCKING FAGGOT SCIENTISTS! THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ME PLAYING VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES! I'LL RIP OUT THEIR FUCKING SPINES! I'VE PLAYED VIDEO GAMES ALL MY LIFE TO THE EXCLUSION OF FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND HAVING MY OWN GIRLFRIEND AND I'VE NEVER BECOME AGGRESSIVE!

hmmm.....

>>383639641
>In Louisiana, Thompson helped draft a 2006 bill sponsored by state representative Roy Burrell to ban the sale of violent video games to buyers under 18 (HB1381). In an effort to avoid constitutional problems, it avoided trying to define "violent" and instead adopted a variation of the Miller obscenity test: sales to minors would be illegal based on community standards if the game appealed to "the minor's morbid interest in violence", was patently offensive based on adult standards of suitability for minors, and lacked serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors. The bill was passed unanimously by the state House and approved by the Senate Judiciary A Committee, despite industry opposition and predictions that it too would be unconstitutional.

>>383638339
Attention whore who tried repeatedly to ban the GTA games.

Eventually the courts saw through his bullshit and ordered him to stop harassing Rock star.

He eventually got disbarred too and has thus been consigned to the realms of forgotten vidya history

>>383639919

It was Janet Reno, and it was a race for Florida State Attourney. His thing was basically "If you're so straight, do you find me attractive?", and her exact response was "I'm only interested in virile men. That’s why I'm not attracted to you." Then when she became Attourney General, he kept saying she can't be allowed to have the job on the grounds of being a lesbian.

>>383636082
>Believes video games are hurting children.
>Does something about it.
At least the guy was well intended and did not just do it out of malice.
Info on what he's up to now. Some good reading.
https://www.inverse.com/article/12633-attorney-jack-thompson-and-his-personal-vendetta-against-video-games

>>383638874
You're acting like it would've stopped there. At the time, politicians were chiming in on video games and how they could "influence" our children, and the dangers of it. They were looking for censorship, and Thompson was playing into their fears. It was the same shit the music industry had to deal with much earlier, until that thankfully ended with a compromise with the rating system for music.

Actually accomplishing what they wanted to push is far more dangerous than agendas being pushed that isn't liked. Imagine if SJWs could outright make the government FORCE companies to do things with their games. That's the sort of shit that people like Thompson were aiming at.

SJWs are just being annoying and trying to get some message to look the way they want. Thompson and politicians of that era were looking to eradicate actual free speech in games, over fears of "think of the children!".

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>>383639873
I didn't vote for Trump (Jill Stein voter here) but the good thing about him being President is that all the anti-gamergaters were unhealthy numales who relied on Obamacare to stay alive. With Trumpcare going through they'll likely die off.

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>>383639873
He's Unhinged!

>>383640423
>At least the guy was well intended and did not just do it out of malice.
>In 2005, he wrote an open letter to Entertainment Software Association president Doug Lowenstein, making what he described as "a modest video game proposal" (an allusion to the title of Jonathan Swift's satirical essay, A Modest Proposal) to the video game industry: Thompson said he would donate $10,000 to a charity designated by Take-Two CEO Paul Eibeler if any video game company would create a game including the scenario he described in the letter. The scenario called for the main character, whose son was killed by a boy who played violent video games, to murder a number of industry executives (including one modeled on Eibeler) and go on a killing spree at the Electronic Entertainment Expo. Video game fans promptly began working to take Thompson up on his offer, resulting in the game I'm O.K – A Murder Simulator, among others. Afterwards, he claimed that his proposal was satire, and refused to make the promised donation.

This guy railed against everything. Rap music, videogames, Howard Stern (which by today's standard is so tame).

He also argued the Florida Bar Association wasn't constitutional when it turned against him.

>>383640149
Fates, numorous changes, one of which was has direct links to a SJW freakout.
DOAX3 SJW given by employees as the reason for its lack of a western release.
Might Number Nine
SJW staff member claims to have made a fuss in order to get changes made to a DLC characters design
Overwatch
The whole Tracer pose thing.
GOW6 name changed to a trophy
Yes 3 out of 5 of those mean very little and didn't do any harm but the point was that you can clearly link them SJW drama to effects had on the game or it's release.

>>383640509
Source? How is that malice? Or out of spite?

>>383636082
he is totally right
only underage redditors hate him

>>383636669
/v/ wants to ban videogames?

>>383640192
>studies show a conclusive link between aggressive behavior and video games

They don't show aggressive behavior beyond the same aggression that comes from other accepted activities such as sports. And in some cases they reduce aggressive behavior.

Now if we want to make the deal that all sports go away WITH all video games. Fine I'll make that deal. But otherwise video games don't cause aggression out of the ordinary. Posting inflammatory posts to get angry reactions doesn't prove your point.

>>383640426
Violent videogames were near realistically at threat from people like JT though. All that was media hyperbole to get clicks.

There were numerous cases and lawsuits against violent games, this is true, but none of them went anywhere.

In short, videogames are protected by the same freedom of speech and freedom of expressions as movies, book, or music. No cases is realistically going to change anything to any great degree on that regard.

>>383636082
Not only that, he was right. Video games are harmful to youth. Look at what Valve, Actiblizz and others are doing - they use video games in order to peddle gambling to minors. They are the proof that it's a sinister hobby.

Don't forget pic related - it's all about microtransaction bait now.

>>383640676
How much of an underage fucking newfag are you? Get the fuck off my board you dipshit if you don't remember Bald and Piglike donating the 10k when Thompson fucked off.

>>383636082
He did to the GTA series what Obama did to AR-15s.

>>383640509
Paul Eibeler also never selected a charity and he did so much claim it as satire and it was satire, just ham handed satire, I guess him and R* at least have something in common.

>>383639484
Nah, not really. Mostly it just makes people think you're not intelligent enough to create something of your own and have to sponge off the achievements of people who came before you. You're basically a nigger.

>>383636082
Thread is probably meta enough already but I believe video games offer no benefit to society and are a waste of time.

>>383640581
>He also argued the Florida Bar Association wasn't constitutional when it turned against him.
Because he thought the "gay agenda" had taken over the Bar Association and was harassing him for his religious beliefs. Maybe he'd have a point if he said that today, but this was in 1993, when the vast majority of american society including lawyers didn't like the gays.

>>383640890
Hey hey! Didn't know Polygon was here today. Or are you Kotaku?

>>383640829
It's t gambling aspect that's the real problem.

Fuck any game with micro transactions, yes, even if it's "just" cosmetics

>>383640851
>Asks for source out of curiosity
>no u
Please?

>>383640463
>Jill Stein
Fuck off with your pinko bullshit

>>383641024
You have no clue who I'm even referring to when I say Bald and Piglike, do you.

Fucking faggots. All of you.

>>383640703
yes

>>383640890
>waste of time
i'll never understand what this means. i worked all day, am i not allowed to have free time because (((they))) said so?

>>383640703
old /v/ would ban most of them for being shit.

>>383640829
>>383641007

I don't see the problem with gambling. Granted I live in a place where it's legal, but if you take the ability to do something away from people then they'll just do it illegally.

>>383641024
Normally I hate the faggots who demonize people asking for sources, but this was huge fucking news. If you don't remember it as it happened, you really aren't old enough to be here.

>>383640990
Expect Kotaku and Polygon believe video games are art like Bioshock Infinite. Anything to counter that besides labels?

>>383640463
>"nhealthy numales who relied on Obamacare to stay alive. With Trumpcare going through they'll likely die off."

SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY, ANON!

Still hate him, but now I know there are much, much worse evils in the world of vidya than some lawyer who wants to ban GTA

>>383641024
JT made a joke, a ham-handed and bitter one.
some dude made a game based on the joke.
PA put some money into there game industry friendly charity to piss off JT

>>383641074
There were no good options this last election. Hillary would've caused race wars and Trump doesn't have enough experience for me to be comfortable with him. Although he was easily the most entertaining candidate. Jill Stein was the only person I could vote for where I was comfortable with it and wouldn't be called a sexist.

>>383641203
I can only source Polygon at the moment but:
https://archive.is/20150610013204/https://www.polygon.com/2015/6/1/8687867/rock-band-4-preview#selection-1671.0-1671.39

Polygon thinks video games are stupid. All of them.

>>383640192
>>studies show a conclusive link between aggressive behavior and video games

source?
And since you said "studies" instead of "study" that means multiple sources.

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>>383640463
>capeshit
>Jill Stein
>muh gamergates


too obvious m8

Who was the person that got the ESRB created because of testifying before congress about Mortal Kombat

>>383641092
>>383641190
Could you just give me a link pretty please?

>>383636082

He meant well but he was a little misguided and ignorant.

Better him than the SJW extremist's.

>>383641092
They make some shitty gamer comics that are unreadable to normal people, I don't see why newfags should be expected to know this.

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>>383641271
>>383640463

And pay men will. It's your responsibility to pay for women's tampons.

>>383641164
It's not gambling per sé that I find objective here. Its that this pseudo gambling content is often served to children now.

You especially see this on mobile app stores all the time. Cutesy child focused games with endless amount of paid only content. It's disgusting.

I mean if you're a grown man or woman, then sure, go for it. Its your life

>>383641164
You don't understand. It's not a question of consent. State has to step in to protect the vulnerable. It's a matter of ethics and perfectly in sync with what Thompson was advocating.

>>383641363
Fair enough.

He's a lvl 60 Quentin

>>383641382
I stand by what I said. Not bait.

>>383641421
>Better him than the SJW extremist's.
I agree. If only because we actually seemed to resist his brand of bullshit. The second it became about sexism everyone lost their ability to think.

>>383641453
That's generally why parents don't let kids have credit cards, so they won't make bad decisions until they're old enough to understand the ramifications.

>>383640890
>waste of time
I hope you don't watch any holywood moves either
you know what's an even bigger waste of time then playing video games?
Talking about video games. So you know, you probably shouldn't be posting here.

>>383641421
>He meant well
No he didn't, he was a moralfag who just wanted everyone to prescribe to his brand of moralfaggotry. He was exactly the same as the SJWs in that regard.

>>383641419
Pick any major video game publication from 2005 and I guarantee you they had an article on it.

>>383641271
>>383641451
Oh make no mistake I'm already paying for their health care. And I want a proper single payer system long term. But for now, let things roll how they may.

>>383639873
Judging by this board he isn't wrong.

>>383641363
Show them 'gone home' and they'll tell you it's art.

>>383641385
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Mortal_Kombat#Congressional_hearing_and_response
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protection_Act

>>383639647
You're a child.

>>383641143
You should have some hobby that is productive, improves you and makes you a more interesting and attractive in eyes of other people. Life is a competition and you should use every opportunity to get ahead of others.

>>383639735
It's become a parody of itself. Still can't tell if it's a good thing or a bad thing.

>>383641664
Yet none of you can provide a source...

>>383641543
I think Piglike actually made the point that we were lucky to have Jack filling the role of the moral guardian because he was such an incompetent buffoon.

>>383641453
>parents give kids access to smartphones AND credit cards
>somehow that is the government responsibility to stop

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>>383641345
>PA
what does that even means? cant you "le oldfags" post in normal words?

>>383641863
Not him but Penny Arcade, anon. How do you not remember this? I was in college when this happened.

>>383641863
It's Pennsylvania. I'm telling you before someone yells at you.

Jacky boy at least had somewhat of a sense of humor. I remember when he came to a gaming convention somewhere and spoke, and he actually got on with the crowd somewhat well. I remember someone asked him if he liked any video games and he started talking about Space Invaders and Missile Command I think.

>>383641750
Ah so you're anti-individualist and pragmatically anal.

>>383641831
Piglike? Did I miss something?

Anyway yeah I agree.

>>383642125
WHY AM I SO BALD

>>383641664
That's not a source! That's making a claim and then asking the listener to prove it for you.

>>383636082
>people unironically think this

>>383642151
I definitely missed something.

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>>383641834
>>383641453
>>383641007
>somehow that is the government responsibility to stop
Fucking this, expecting daddy goverment to prevent your children from acting like retards its nigger thinking
Grow some balls and educate your fucking kids FFS, unless you want to live like they do in the UK, with people going to jail for mean tweets and child molesters not going to jail for being racist to prosecute them

>>383642236
Yes, you missed the first few years of /v/

>>383640213
So? Retailers didn't sell M games to kids anyway.

SJWs affect content. Thompson affected dick.

>>383640213
Anon is always right.

>>383641363
>https://archive
Fuck off asshole, if you are gonna use information from a site use the direct link
https://www.polygon.com/2015/6/1/8687867/rock-band-4-preview#selection-1671.0-1671.39

>>383642332
Psst, anon. Nintendo censors content so that it appeals to kids and doesn't cause soccer moms to get angry.

Now what did Jack Thompson do?

>>383642258
but anon if we don't force them to stop doing something, they'll keep doing it and we don't like that!

>>383636082
literally who?

who is this old man and why does he have a copy of a 9 year old game?

>>383642428
Dick. Nintendo was been doing that long before he hit the scene you literal child.

>>383642412
Using the actual site doesn't let me link you to the text selection :^) XDD

>>383642428
>creating games designed to be enjoyed by all age groups is censoring content

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>>383642412
>Linking directly to Polygon
>EVER
Fuck off back to whatever shithole you came from.

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>>383640887
they are memes not renaissance works of art, and watching /pol/ scum getting mad over "stolen meme valor" its just as fun as sjw faggots crying over too muh girl fetichism on nintendo games

>>383642525
omg newfag reeeeee

It was a simpler time.
Just out of touch senators, bible thumpers and shitty parents.
Sure they fucked things up more, but least you could get away from it all compared to now.

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>>383642412

>>383636082
He had some weird fucking ideas about why ESRB stamps should be enforced - that violence and gays made little killers and homosexuals.

But ultimately his goals themselves were fine. He wasn't out to ban the violence and gays, just to stop kids playing Call of Duty.

>>383636195
>He respects a disbarred lawyer who made his name on attaching himself to outrageously stupid cases.

The man is neither a success financially or within his field. He has nothing.

>>383636082
>he literally did nothing wrong
stop with the tired memes faggot.

>>383643593
You can imagine the average /v/ poster circa 2017 is going to be against someone trying to keep annoying squeakers out of adult video games.

>>383637364
You actually think that Anita Sarkeesian is considered a major feminist thinker and not someone who peddles boilerplate sociology 101 while assblasted manchildren scream at her on Youtube

>>383638640
He was a crank. He had numerous warnings in the past for shady shit and was worse than an ambulance chaser on the legal hierarchy.

Why the fuck do you think he got disbarred?

>>383643921

Nigger we all played rated M games when we were kids.

>>383640463
All the poor rural asswhipes are going down, most of which are very deeply Republican. Why do you think so many deep red senators refuse to give the AHCA any traction on the floor?

Have you ever been anywhere near a rural health clinic? Its diabetes and heroin as far as the eyes can see

>>383641159
Old /v/ is a myth. This board was always a shitty dumping ground for 15 year olds.

>>383644371
And so you know how annoying little kids were in online games with 16+ PEGI ratings.

>>383644704
yeah, but the old identity seemed to be that /v/ hated video games, and now it's just the board full of kids.

>>383636082

If he did nothing wrong why did he lose