>game is utter shit until the ending where a huge plot twist

>>383635907
what is nier automata

>>383636112
this

>>383636112
You know who play that shit? Gay niggaz

Bioshock?

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What is spec ops: the line

>>383636112
FPBP

>>383635907
Found the ADHD faggot who didn't like Trails in the Sky.

Fuck off.

>>383635907
Never played nier automata but i am gonna say bioshock infinite.

Its not even that good of a plot twist. It just *shocks* you a little because it doesn't make much sense. Then its suddently a "smart" game for "smart" people even tho its a shit game.

>>383636112
very epic

There are very few games, if any, that are capable of being shit all the way through, and then have the ending make it all make sense and be worth it.

But there are countless games that can be great all the way through, but somehow, with their endings, retcon the fun you had up to that point.

>>383640106
Like metro 2033.

Never played the remakes nor last light, but the ending to 2033 was absolute dog shit.

>>383640515
So, did you spend a bunch hours playing it having fun, beat it, and then suddenly those hours somehow weren't fun any more?

>Game has MASSIVE plothole that completely renders the entire story to nonsense
>Game is still considered good by nu-males

>>383640664
I dont know if it suddenly made me waste my time. I am not one of those that decide that the entire game is a waste of time due to the ending. I always get something valuable out of the game. If not: Its a shit game i never enjoyed.

>>383640857
Name 1 game

>>383641064
I literally can think of so many games right now about that that i cant decide.

Bio infinite its the main one that comes to mind. Another one is FFXVI. Another one is chrono trigger.

>>383641179
>FFXVI

What

>>383641179
>Another one is FFXVI
Yeah, I hate that plothole.
It's such a huge hole it consumed the game's entire existence.

>>383641064
>>383640857
Fallout 3

>>383636112
>>383636171
>>383638389

Kill yourselves.

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>>383641179
>FFXVI

What is Undertale, Spec Ops: The Line, Nier...

What is any game where the twist is "YOU were the bad guy all along!"

>>383641535

Confirmed for having never played Nier.

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If a game relies on its story to carry its gameplay in any way, then it's a bad game by default. IE every single RPG in existence is purile trash and I'd rather play Gone Home than touch any of them.

And yes, I am implying that games like Xenoblade and Persona and SMT are on the same tier as Undertale. They're all the same cinematic movie trash.

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>>383641535
You are like a little baby

>>383641535
You're fucked in spec ops by like 10% of the playthrough and you waste a bunch of CIA agents.

>>383640857
borderlands 2

>>383641697
>If a game relies on its story to carry its gameplay
>I'd rather play Gone Home
Erm.

What the fuck are you trying to bait here?

>>383635907
KOTOR 1

>>383641889
It's supposed to be a joke, since at least when Gone Home throws a pretentious story at me with garbage gameplay, it only costs me 20 dollars.

>>383642082
Undertale costs less than that and at least it actually has gameplay.

You not liking a genre's gameplay doesn't totally invalidate that genre.

>>383642213
Actually has gameplay? Hah, half the game is literally designed to hold your hand so nothing too videogamey happens. See: the date with Papyrus, the date with Alphus, pretty much every boss battle in the game (made to be easy to beat for the toddlers) or Asriel himself (can't die because muh plot reasons).

Real fun "videogame" you got there.

>>383640857
Why didn't they just fly the eagles to Mordor?

>>383642331
Slow down kid, the g-forces from how fast you're baiting might give you a nosebleed.

>>383641697
Retard of the year award right here.

>>383642426
Can't fast travel to a location you've not been to before.

>>383641617
Anon I...

>>383640857
Final Fantasy X__

>>383636112
There's no huge plot twist at the end though. The first Nier, yeah, but not Automata.

>>383642629
What plothole does Nier have?

>>383642738
Plot twist, anon.

>>383642543
>>383642469
>children who can't handle a differing argument

You must be 18 years or older to be here.

>>383642738
Do you even read the posts you're responding to?

>>383642629

The twist in Automata is that you were the same as the machines, and the humans have been extinct the whole time.

>>383635907
bioshock infinite

>>383642815
>he honestly thinks Final Fantasy V's job system is the same as a walking simulator.

>>383635907
Oddworld strangers wraith was like this for me.

>>383642801
>>383642823
Oh my bad, I got this post stuck on my mind.
>>383640857

Star Ocean: Till the End of Time

>>383636112
That's more of a ''the girl has a nice ass so it's good''.

>>383642957
>he thinks grinding to make a class useful is somehow good game design

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>>383643091

It's actually the game is good so it's good.

People who shitpost it didn't even play/finish it because there's no real plot twist, as the reveals are painfully obvious.

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>>383636112

>>383641535
Literally the only interesting ting about KoToR plot

>>383643145
>he thinks you have to just grind out every single job to max class level to beat the game

>>383635907
But I like those kind of stuff. Like SuperMetroid, the first BioShock, Furi, Nier, InFamous 1&2, Castlevania Mirror of Fate, Symphony of the Night, Metal Slug 3 and so on

>>383636112
FPBP

>>383642868
>the humans have been extinct the whole time
That was established in the first game and shouldn't be a surprise at all unless you assumed human meant Replicant instead of actual flesh and blood human like I did. Even then it wasn't that shocking.

>>383643438

I assumed it too.

>>383643438
Why did they have to go so much far away?

>>383643309
>implying i ever said that
>implying the classes are fun when you have to max one out just to get its abilities to transfer to the main character

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>>383643198
Playing it once is ok, but playing as 9S is shit. It adds nothing and the hacking minigame manages to be both boring and unnecesary. The game picks up again playing as A2. Having to play the same game again to get the real ending is never good. pic related
It doesn't help that there's no character development at all. At least in Nier the characters and the overall theme were interesting.

>>383635907
Spec Ops The Line
and it wasn't even done well but underage with little to no familiarity with books and movies with an unreliable narrator are easily impressed

>>383643773

>no character development

Try actually playing the game.

>>383641415
>muh waifu of the month
ever notice how no one talks about this game anymore

>>383643953
You can't play a cinematic experience.

>Boring as fuck JRPG with indefensibly shit mechanics
>Complain on /v/
>"It gets good 20 hours in, idiot!"

I genuinely got that excuse too. Like nigga, if a game takes 20 hours to get to the good shit, that's still like one third of it that plays like fucking ass.

>>383643953
Try actually having an argument.
Actually, there's a bit of character development with A2 becoming less of a jerk and a robot hater. But that's it.

>>383644062

There was heaps of discussing during the sale.

>>383638027
This
God I fucking hate Specops fags so much
>dude white phosphorus lmao
>muh feels!
>it's SUPPOSED to feel like a generic shooter, that's the point!

>>383644095
Give example, no one says this shit.

>>383644197

No there's actually much more, like 2B slipping, and 9S slowly losing his shit. A2 is the most forced, and the fact you only noticed her shows how thick you are.

>>383644267

FFXIII

>>383644074


The fuck are you talking about?

>>383639878
desu this would've been relevant 4 years ago, but now no one remembers that game
even my friend who really loves that bioshock games was disappointed with infinite

the "smart game for smart gamers" was just some retarded but memorable journalist line, like "skyrim with guns" or "citizen kane of videogames"

>>383636112
That was fun the whole way through and there wasn't really a big plot twist on any ending. C and D sort of had a twist, but it wasn't so shocking that it's all anyone would talk about.

>>383643773
This guy's right. Taro made on good game and that's it. Can't expect much more from someone who loves Life is Strange.

>>383641697
>rpgs are cinematic

Anon, you might want to see a doctor.

>>383644484

Stay in your containment thread.

>>383636112
What the fuck are you talking about? The game was good from start to finish.

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>Game 1 is amazing
>Game 2 comes out soon after and isn't as Game 1 and is called absolute shit
>Game 3 comes out years later and isn't as good as Game 1 but is still called really great

>>383641535
That is not the twist in NieR at all and NieR is as justified in what he does as the Shadowlord. it makes what you do more questionable, sure, but it doesn't outright call you the bad guy and rightfully so.

>>383637604
OP can't be talking about anything else other than Bioshock infinite. The game was complete asshole in every sense of the word, but people freaked out because of the ending multiple existences.

>>383644359
2B slipping and 9S losing his shit isn't character development. It's not gradual, it's not meaningful, it's uninteresting. Just like with A2 it's forced and can only be appreciated by someone who hasn't read a book or watched a movie in their life.

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>>383641697
Shh.. The adults are talking.

>>383636112
There was no big plot twist at the end though.

>>383641870
This, so badly.

>>383644563
>>383644450
>genre of games built around cookie cutter gameplay and cutscenes you can't skip
>this is considered good game design

Ask yourself this: if someone ripped out all of the story, would you still play and enjoy the game?

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>>383643773

>playing as 9S is shit

Nah, you're shit. 9S was fun because he wasn't overpowered as shit, and hacking in combat is completely optional. Playing through the prologue as 9S was fine, or did you think that counted as playing the whole game twice? If so you're a retard.

>>383644590

It's just summer being summer.

>>383644709
The problem is people were expecting something better or at least more unique because it was made by Yoko Taro. But just as you said, there's nothing new nor interesting in Automata. Let's not get started with the actual gameplay, serviceable at best.

>>383644638
What is: Deus Ex

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>>383644906

What are you actually talking about?

>>383643773
What? 9S has character development and so does A2. Even Pascal has a bit. Playing 9S was fun as well, he was just fun in normal combat and the hacking, while simple, is nice an it transitions between normal gameplay and hacking gameplay nicely. It shouldn't have been as strong as it was though, but even that made it so you could get through the game quick if replaying it was bothering you.

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>>383644580
>containment thread

>>383644709
>2B slipping and 9S losing his shit isn't character development.
How is that not character development? It's the character and their personality changing and developing into something different. And how is it not meaningful? It's integral to the plot.

>>383645031
RPGs aren't games. The very name is misleading, since nobody plays them for the gameplay.

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>>383644709

>it's not gradual

Yes it fucking is. He starts changing as soon as he discovers the truth about Project Yorha. Don't try to sound all high and mighty when you probably don't even realize how significant 2B's change is either.

>>383644991
>serviceable at best

The combat is great, the only problem is the enemies are literal cannon fodder.

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>>383644709

>it's not character development because I said so

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>>383635907
>>383636112
>had it spoiled for me
>didn't enjoy very much despite being a huge Yoko Taro fan who played all the previous games
I hate /v/
Drakengard 1 = Nier > Automata = Drakengard 3 >>>>>> Drakengard 2

>>383640106
FF8
the whole last segments of the game are pure shit compared to the active and believable story tied together with good world building of the earlier parts of the game.

>>383645308

oh so you're just retarded

got it

>>383640857
>>383641064
999

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>>383645440

>>383644709
>It's not gradual,

It is, you obviously weren't paying attention.

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>>383645526


>argument to retarded claim with zero basis

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>>383645526
>images.jpg

>>383645609
>modern RPG has 10 hours of cutscenes and 500+ hours of dialogue, and maybe 10 hours of gameplay if you're lucky
>this is somehow not an argument in and of itself

Also, still no argument.

>>383645806

What RPG are you talking about? Post examples.

>>383645806
Well good thing Xenoblade doesn't have that.

>>383645969
I think it's the faggot that cries about how you can find all cut scenes on youtube, and it'll be an hour long. Funny thing is, if you take all gamplay out from a game, and just show cut scenes, it'll be an hour long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gbnquwhrs0

I like the ''''argument'''' that people would stop playing RPGs if they cut out all of the dialogue and cutscenes.

They're more likely to play them then because it's just the fucking gameplay.

>>383645969
Off the top of my head, Persona series. The latest installment has a 50 hour intro anime cinematic.

>>383646123
Actually, Xenoblade is a prime contender for that filth.

>>383646154
That's not true in the slightest. If it was, any thread about Final Fantasy or Persona would involve discussion of GAMEPLAY, instead of jerking off to pay porn of your waifus and husbandos. But go check in on any RPG thread and tell me that gameplay discussion is happening.protip: it's not.

>>383635907
silent hill 2

>>383646291
Hey, you know an RPG series where people constantly discuss the gameplay?

Pokémon.

>>383646291
>But go check in on any RPG thread and tell me that gameplay discussion is happening.protip: it's not.

>>383640548

>>383646291
No it doesn't. Xenoblade takes like only 100-150 hours to beat, so clearly your 500+ hours of dialogue doesn't fit into the equation.

>>383646340
Fuck you.

>>383646357
Are you kidding? Pokemon discussion used to just be about posting porn of poke girls. Then it went to posting porn of the pokemon themselves. Gameplay stopped being a factor long ago.

>>383646410
That's if you wander around the overworld and collect all the useless junk, and that doesn't take into account all the boring, terrible dialogue.

>>383646370
>first two posts are literally shitposts about "fucking Op's mother"

Interesting.

>>383646712
>stretching this far

How does it feel to be this much in denial you're actually becoming Stretch Armstrong?

>>383643773
Glad more people are speaking up. Nier Automata was a good game but nothing special. I was expecting something more interesting since everyone here sucks Taro's cock so much.

>>383646712
The collectibles aren't useless they contribute to quest completion and various bonuses like rare gems from the collectiapedia or whatever it was called and the dialogue isn't boring.

>>383646712

Stop posting anytime.

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>>383638027
I am a spec ops fag. It's probably because it was 0% spoiled for me. I also have a boner for heart of darkness stories. The music was p gud. Just because it's not perfect doesn't mean it wasn't a good game brah. I know you're just calling out the tfw to intelligent guys. But there's other reasons it's good besides the tweest. Just play games for fun mang.

>>383646841

Stop responding to your own bait.

>>383646291
>Off the top of my head, Persona series. The latest installment has a 50 hour intro anime cinematic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sR-LFfZAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D07mro7NOkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxNAwZ-A88w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h73LvR8V2LA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJIGlas15Uk

>total 7:25
>+50 intros
yeah you're full of shit.

>>383646841
What were you expecting? This >>383641439 is what these niggers actually played the game for. Can't expect them to know what good character development is.

>>383647078

Stop talking to yourself in some weird passive aggressive manner because you got destroyed and have no argument.

>>383647078
People will always latch on to waifus, even if it's just a game like Mass Effect, but that doesn't affect the quality of the game at all. Automata doesn't even have any fanservice beyond blowing off 2B's skirt.

>>383636112
Taro's worst, second to Drakengard 3.

>>383647362

In no way is Automata worse than Drakengard, unless you're some tryhard hipster.

>>383636112
I suggest you don't say this on here on /v/

>>383646852
So in other words they exist only to make a number go up. The most basic form of grinding. I mean the game isn't even that hard, it doesn't prompt you ever even needing this stuff.

>>383646869
>>383646814
I'm sorry if I offended your cinematic movies, but not everyone enjoys watching a game play itself.

>>383647063
You didn't even show a quarter of them.

>>383647362
So, his second worst?

>>383636112
Honestly this

>>383647362
I haven't played any of the Drakengard games yet, but I'd say Automata was better than NieR. Then again, I wasn't going in with the expectation that it would be the greatest game of all time because NieR didn't impress me that much and I hadn't been following the game leading up to its release, so maybe that had something to do with it.

>>383647545
You're an actual retard, sat there jacking off to people calling you out for it aren't you?

If you want, I'm happy to record a mix-tape for you of me just insulting you. I'll do it cheap, I'll even use your name.

>>383647545
The thing with the collectibles is that it encourages exploration of the areas.

>>383646370

#rekt

>>383646841
>I was expecting something more interesting
Kinda your own fault. Yoko, at least imo, is hit or miss.
Hit: Drakengard 1, Nier
Miss: Drakengard 3, Automata
It's kinda sad the game with the best gameplay endend up having such a by the numbers story.

>>383635907
Bioshock Infinite

>>383647660
Again, no argument. But you love to throw out insults.

>>383647848
And what if I don't like the world? what if I find the battles and scenery boring? What does exploration offer me then?

>>383647545
That is literally all of the PERSONA opening, but since you're a massive faggot.

>Even with Shin Megami openings added
>Total 11:13
>Still not a single one only that is 50+ minutes.
The toilet doesn't even want your shit anon.

>>383648051
I don't understand how you could find the scenery boring.

>>383648051
There's literally no point arguing when you're just ignoring actual arguments and evidence and just saying "no, lol it's all cutscenes only cutscenes people are just jacking to waifus there's no gameplay"

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>>383635907
>game is amazing until the ending where a huge plot twist is revealed that doesn't make any logical sense
>suddenly the game is bad according to everyone

Mass Effect 3 was a great game.

>>383647078
There's not much to say about the gameplay, that's the main reason. I mean, it plays ok, but even the more complicated combos are easy to pull off. Maybe it's because I grew up with DMC3.

>>383643773
>Having to play the same game again to get the real ending

I really hate this gimmick.

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>>383635907
fucking ever17

>>383648161
>>383648303
I'm telling you that you left out multiple hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNKLBpwNHuQ&list=PLlxfIioa1JCfOPn7Ar50VEpmC_KHr7DVe

How is this acceptable?

>>383649081
That's not an intro and besides you can fastforward through them.

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>>383649307
>fast forward through all 50 hours of cinematics (that's being generous btw)
>left with 10 minutes of gameplay

So this.... is the power... of Atlus...

>>383649081
>All cut scenes
>50 hour intro anime cinematic

You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLTllAOG18U
Are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8t4ygOZwo
A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeN-icSgvG0
Massive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRDMnNRvTik
Faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Sx2MkG2nE

>>383638027
This seems like a top contender, but I enjoyed the entire game. The levels were great to walk through, the gameplay felt smooth, the characters were entertaining.

>>383649081
You're not telling me shit.
Have you actually looked at the Persona ability system? Are you aware of Pokémon's strategy and mechanics?

Or did you see a plot and shit yourself because you see a framing device and panic?

>>383649390
If you want gameplay focus just play SMT or Etrian Odyssey. Persona focuses more on characters and story.

>>383649538
>>383649403
>>383649760
The fact that you have to suffer through 50 hours of cutscenes and then, afterward, hope you find some gameplay, is just beyond me. I tried finding the gameplay, but all I found was a high school anime kid simulator where my choices made as much impact as they would in a call of duty installment. Is that the gameplay? Or am I supposed to find it elsewhere?

>Persona focuses more on characters and story.
Then go make a book. When you make a video game, gameplay is supposed to take priority.

>>383649879
>When you make a video game, gameplay is supposed to take priority.
Says who? Why does that have to be main priority for all games? Look I'm willing to admit Persona plays like a visual novel, but maybe Persona isn't for you then.

>>383650095
It's not that Persona isn't my kind of series, it's that you nullify the entire point of the game if you can just watch it on dailymotion or youtube and not miss out on anything. The gameplay is supposed to be that key factor that says "hey, you're missing out on the fun if you just watch the game."

>>383649879
You have no argument because all cut scenes don't show gameplay your retard. It never once paused like it's supposed to to allow gameplay to happen. And this shit, as I've have shown, can happen to any genre of game. Stop being a fucking faggot, and stop using all cut scenes as your "argument".

>>383645465
I can see why you'd say that but I disagree. VLR, however, fits that bill

>>383648604
I agree
Mechanically it was the most fun, and it was leagues better than 2. 1 is still my favorite but 3 was great.

>>383650285
>You have no argument because all cut scenes don't show gameplay your retard.
Because there's no difference. The only difference between Persona's ""gameplay"" and its story is one will occasionally ask you to press a button to advance the dialogue. The cutscenes are strung together by what can't even be described as a quick time event.

>>383650219
>and not miss out on anything.
You're missing out on the gameplay.

You can watch all of the cutscenes from MGS3 on YouTube too, fuckweed.

>>383650445
Oh my god he doesn't actually know about the battle system and thinks Persona is a dating sim.

>>383638027
I hate those people who talk about how it was supposed to feel like a generic shooter. Maybe so, but that's no excuse. You could tell the same story and have good mechanics. Otherwise your story becomes about how there are too many CoD games instead of anything deeper. Like, imagine if Apocalylse Now, a movie with the same story as Spec Ops, was filmed like a generic war movie from the time. Would anyone ever talk about it besides making jokes about Marlon Brando? No, because the movie would suck, but hey, that's Spec Ops: a big fat joke.

>>383650663
>>383650552
I know about the battle system, and how you can button mash through it with no difficulty. Like I said, it's basically a quick time event, but without the prompt.

>You can watch all of the cutscenes from MGS3 on YouTube too, fuckweed.
That's because MGS3 is a cinematic movie too. No gameplay whatsoever, just boring stealth segments that basically play themselves. Unless moments like this somehow constitute fine art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgaYe4ZYYyY

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>Each new entry in the series is filled to the brim with retcons and inconsistencies
>People claim the first game *they* played were the "right" setting and the ones before didn't matter and the ones after aren't canon

>>383650834
>I know about the battle system, and how you can button mash through it with no difficulty.

Confirmed for having a negative amount of an idea about what he's talking about.

>>383644837
It's just summer trying to bait.

>>383650445
>Because there's no difference
You can spend hours playing Persona just by doing Mementos, but I guess that's not gameplay. Fusing Personas also isn't gameplay. Managing stats, so you can get stronger Personas through social links isn't gameplay either. Man I guess you've never played P5 and you don't know what the fuck your talking about.

>>383651080
Haven't you heard? You can button mash the fights in Persona 3 and 4!

>>383646841
>Nier Automata was a good game but nothing special

Agreed. I personally like Yoko's games thanks to their amazing OST and art direction. The story and the characters are secondary.

>>383650834
>I know about the battle system, and how you can button mash through it with no difficulty.

Do you think every Persona game is Persona 4 Arena?

>>383651179
Shit, if only those games didn't also have endless dungeons, fusing Personas, and managing stats, then this faggot might have an argument.

>>383650968
I hope you're not implying that any RPG, let alone Persona, requires any skill or tactics.

>>383651080
>>383651346
>>383651295
>>383651179
Weird, if those things were such interesting gameplay mechanics, then why do the fans never discuss them? Because oftentimes I've wanted to discuss those very things. I was a bit of a minmaxer back in my old RPG days, so the topic of getting the best stats was a favorite of mine.

But good luck trying to start a discussion about it when the fans drown out any post you make with "let's talk about the sexiest waifu" and "whose farts smell better" and other creepy erotic roleplaying discussions. And naturally my thought is that "if the game was so good, people would be discussing it, instead of being degenerate."

But please, do tell me why this supposedly interesting game has a fanbase that refuses to talk about the gameplay mechanics in favor of posting porn.

>>383651346
Just mash the buttons man.
Haven't you seen the Any% Speedrun of P4? It's held by a turbo controller with X held down.

>>383651454
Sounds like you've tried to go to the Persona general on /vg/, which is a huge mistake. No game can be discussed on /vg/.
Around release there was a lot of discussion on P5 though on /v/. Maybe you cherrypicked the few waifufags oogling over women and used them as a basis for your opinion on the entire fandom. I don't know pal.

>>383651454
>I hope you're not implying that any RPG, let alone Persona, requires any skill or tactics.

Have you ever actually played a Persona game? Breath of Fire? Suidoken?

What RPGs have you ever played?

>>383651454
>I was a bit of a minmaxer back in my old RPG days, so the topic of getting the best stats was a favorite of mine.
But why would you bother doing that for only 10 minutes of gameplay? It's not worth it man, you can just mash the buttons!

>>383651454
>I hope you're not implying that any RPG, let alone Persona, requires any skill or tactics.
Did you ever actually look at that Last Remnant thread that was linked earlier or was the idea of being proven wrong too much for you to take?

I have a strong feeling that most people here didn't play the game they listed and just watched a Let's Play or read a summary.

>>383651913
>>383651768
>>383651720
I'm just saying, for such a "renowned" series, the fans seem to hate talking about it. And it's not just on /vg/ either. I can't tell you how many threads started with the sole purpose of baiting people into posting porn of Futaba. "she's le hacker girl done right". And then they post that fatty from Watch dogs 2 as a comparison.

>>383652068
The fact that the very thread was shitposting should've told you something.

>>383652182
>The fact that the very thread was shitposting should've told you something.
Cool, you didn't read the thread then, thanks for letting me know you're not willing to put any effort into this """""discussion"""""

>>383652331
How am I supposed to take a series seriously when the opening posts amount to nothing more than "go fuck your mother" and "no u"? How is that good discussion?

>>383651454
>>383652182
You're on 4chan's /v/, where shitposting, console flame wars, and waifu threads are top priority compared to actually talking about the game.
>Nep
>Sen
>Metroid
>DBZ
All would rather talk about other stuff than gameplay. The only time you get above 200 posts, and you're fucking lucky if you can get that instead of your thread dying at sub 50 post, is if there is noting else to talk about but gameplay, and even then. you get more shitposting than gameplay discussion
>Souls series
You're on the worst place to try and talk about games.

>>383652490
Because this is /v/ and you can't control what people randomly post shit in threads you make kid.

For the most part, the thread is people giving advice on the game's mechanics, leveling and tactics.

Not that you care because you're not even the same person who was saying all RPGs are worthless pieces of no gameplay to begin with, since you're such an avid fan of minmaxing your stat systems in RPGs.

>>383652619
That's nonsense. Even free to play trash like Team Fortress 2 and indie games like Dwarf Fortress can garner 200+ reply threads without resorting to blatantly off topic shitposting and porn dumps.

>>383652749
Correction, I used to be a fan of minmaxing. That is until RPGs decided to put more of their budget into the story and cinematics. Why do you think I'm no longer of that persuasion?

>>383652901
>Why do you think I'm no longer of that persuasion?

I'd guess from how you're acting, electro-shock conversion therapy which is clearly not working.

>>383652901
You've clearly never been to a TF2 thread as they're almost exclusively memes and shitposting. And /v/ doesn't even have Dorf Fort threads anymore.

>>383652901
Maybe because those games don't really have any prominent female characters.

>>383653064
Nonsense. We just had both of those threads today.

>>383653193
Doesn't that sound a little immature that the mere presence of a woman in a game will cause discussion to derail entirely because someone has to jack off to them?

>>383652901
>Team Fortress 2
You mean memeing about how much better tf2 is compared to overwatch?
>Dwarf Fortress
You mean threads that get derailed into talking about what is and isn't a rouge like, and how casual people are for playing with tiles?
Yeah I can tell you've never been in either.

>>383650707
I mean, I've seen a lot of Republican types liking Full Metal Jacket for something it's not.

t. not a liberal

>>383653270
>Doesn't that sound a little immature that the mere presence of a woman in a game will cause discussion to derail entirely because someone has to jack off to them?

You're clearly incredibly new.

>>383653270
You complain about Persona devolving into waifuposting. TF2 nor Dwarf Fortress really have any prominent female characters ergo there would be no waifuposting because there's no prominent female characters.

>>383653274
>You mean memeing about how much better tf2 is compared to overwatch?
A majority of the time will be people making valid comparisons like "lag and server quality differ" and such stuff.

>You mean threads that get derailed into talking about what is and isn't a rouge like, and how casual people are for playing with tiles?
Funny, that didn't happen in the last thread.

>>383653501
>TF2 nor Dwarf Fortress really have any prominent female characters ergo there would be no waifuposting because there's no prominent female characters.
So essentially they have no fap bait to attract horny gamers with, so they have to actually be good games to garner an audience. Hmmm.....

>>383636112
That's wrong
A more correct answer is Drakengard, the first one

>>383644638
Clock Tower

>>383653584
Are you implying that all female characters in videogame are fapbait and nothing else?

>>383653731
If any game with a female character eventually devolves into ruining all discussion with porn of said character? I'll let you answer that one.

Nier: Tomato is a perfect example. Everyone clamors about how good it is, but the only thing that ever happens in Nier threads is a constant stream of porn of 2B. Maybe 9S too if the trap link shota posters who crosspost from Zelda threads are there.

>>383653584
>"lag and server quality differ"
That's not gameplay, and people are using that for shitposting
>Funny, that didn't happen in the last thread.
You mean this one?
>>383467275
Great argument when it died under 50 post.

>>383653931
Ah yes, because 4chan is definitely a good control for this kind of observation, you fucking dickass cunt.

>>383653975
I was more referring to this thread.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/383530429

Not every thread can be perfect, but the point is that we should be able to have a civil thread ONCE in a while.

>>383654060
This happens regardless of the forum, it just has a different flavor where you go. Persona threads on neogaf, for example? Threads ruined with identity politics and gender discussion. Persona thread on reddit? immediately bombed because someone posts that phantom thieves letter someone sent to Donald Trump, and the politic posters descend upon the thread. Really, there's no difference.

>>383645530
Its as gradual as JACK THE RIPPER from MG R

>>383654319
>Going to Reddit and NeoGAF

Jesus, man, you didn't have much more credibility left.

>>383654319
>Not every thread can be perfect, but the point is that we should be able to have a civil thread ONCE in a while.
And you do, but that Once in a awhile doesn't disprove anything I said.
>>383645870

>>383641697
Gothic 2 and Icewind Dale would be both great games even without story. I would still play both if everything was just objectives.

>>383654442
I don't really go to them, I just investigated them a few times thanks to people posting constant threads about them here. You really can't believe how bad those places really are just from a few screencaps. As you can tell, I avoid them like the plague now.

>>383654713
It does though. Why can't people make a Persona thread without posting porn of Futaba?

>>383653584
>TF2
>Dorf
>good games

Spec ops the line

>>383655082
Yes, they are good games. I'm glad you agree.

>>383655296
Nah, I was saying you have shit taste

To the faggot that says all Persona games devolve into waifu posting, do you see any waifu posts in this thread?
>>383648389

>>383654950
Because it's 4chan. There's a KH3 thread up, it's nothing but shitposting because the OP is talking about Zootopia. No gameplay, no strategies from any of the relesed games. There's a lol thread up. It's shit talking riot games, and how shitty the game is now. Once again, no gameplay, no strategies. There was a Danganronpa thread, it's 404 now. There's a Dragon Age thread up. It's talking about one of the characters, no gamplay, no strategies. Hell the arms thread was nothing but off topic discussion until someone posted patch notes.

>>383655532
That really speaks more about how bad those games are than anything else.

>>383655462
>discussion seems decent
>suddenly people crying about how Jojo stole stands from Persona
>people complaining about how the series is shit compared to SMT
>complete anarchy afterward

What did anon mean by this?

>>383655802
And who are you to judge what's a good game? Please show us what you think is a good game, and a good thread about said thread using /v/'s catalog.

>>383655802
>Implying anyone was crying about Jojo
>Implying ONE person complaining about the series is anything comparable to waifu posting
>Implying it became anarchy afterwards
Way to blow things out of proportion and pull things out of your ass, dumbass.

>>383655937
i think Dort Fort is a good game, and I already posted a thread discussing it.

>>383655981
For such a "good" series, that's more off topic posting than should be allowed.

>>383656096
Again your blowing things out of proportion. The majority is on topic way more than what was off topic.

>>383656227
The whole thing should be on topic. I think it should be fair that they should be capable of holding a discussion. And thinking on it, there are actually multiple deleted posts.

>>383656313
Why are you so goddamn anal about a few off topic posts? And that's one deleted post was from me because I quoted the wrong person, and it was talking about gameplay like this post >>383651514

>>383638027
The game was good though

>>383656624
>Why are you so goddamn anal about a few off topic posts?
Because I'm sick of shitposting? And Persona in particular just has been nothing but porn day in and day out. Even in the thread you discuss, shitposting is more prevalent than actual gameplay discussion.

>>383656910
Okay, point out the posts that are shitposts.

>>383657090
Right here starts a chain about which series is better.
>>383650747

It's too much shitposting, not enough game discussion.

>>383657242
How is comparing series a shitpost? And that chain is just two posts that doesn't devolve into a flame war. Why are you even here in 4chan if you're that triggered by shitposts let alone posts that aren't even shitposts?

>>383657427
I'm not 'triggered". I'm just saying that I can't consider a series good when it has too much story and not enough gameplay, and every other thread is shitposting supreme, if it isn't porn posting central. That's all I'm sayng.

>>383644638

What is Risen

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>>383636112
In case someone wants to take this seriously because they hang on to the thought that the game was "just fotm" and responses like this and their popularity affirm that thought, let me explain it to you.
>the game is not shit until the ending
>the biggest twist happens about 2/3 through and is not supposed to leave you speechless
>many smaller twists happen before and after that which may or may not have meant to leave you speechless
>the true ending is supposed to leave you speechless but is not a twist

>>383657520
Well how was that post shitposting then? And why is ONE post, too much shitposting?

>>383642426
Because the eye would've spotted them and the eagles would get shot down

>>383640106
Black ops 3

>>383657726
it's not one post. It was a series that came afterward. And saying "something is shitty" is a shitpost, because you're not saying why.

>>383657886
Well okay I don't get how 3 "shitposts" out of 104 posts is too much shitposting.

>>383658064
More like 30. Regardless, you can't even have a thread that has 0 shitposting, so I have to question the validity of the game.

>>383658267
Okay show me the 30 shitposts then.

>>383658330
I would include the posters in here >>383655802 but you said those didn't, so I doubt we'll even come to an agreement.

>>383635907
that Xcom 3rd Person shooter, it was a pretty good twist though

>>383639375
kill yourself TitS nerd

>>383639375
To be fair, I got bored after the first thirty minutes.

Skies of Arcadia is what I've been playing recently because it reminded me having similar names.

>>383650327
Only plot hole I can think of is Sigma not seeing his reflection in anything before reveal.

>>383635907
>Game is okay until the ending where there is a minor plot twist.
>Suddenly the game is fucking garbage.

Owlboy

>>383641179
What is Chrono Trigger's plothole?

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Worked for Undertale. Once you learn the twist the game challenges you to play the entire thing again but in a completely different way. Accepting and going through with the challenge makes the game feel like a new game, with new characters, tons of new dialogue, a much longer and more satisfying ending, etc.

>>383636112
I feel like if you didn't deeply enjoy Nier Automata, you maybe should find another hobby. That was just was pure peak video game, and I started gaming when the NES was new.

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>Game is good
>a few areas, missions, or the ending is shit
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW THIS GAME IS SHIT
guess which group of faggots do this more than anyone