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>You have been invaded by dark spi-
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>>383614510
Well OP if you wernt a casual this wouldn't be a problem.
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>>383614510
fee fi fo fum i smell the blood of a casul scum
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>>383614510
>2010+7
>Playing on a laptop.
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just play hide n seek and then ambush them if you feel like it
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Anyone not doing this on their first playthrough (IF they play if well after release) is retarded.

I don't want my first playthrough tainted by someone with a pvp-build using cheese tactics and the flavor of the expansion broken shit i don't even know yet

It's like playing a fighting game without having a BnB, simply no point, no mindgames going on.
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>>383614881
is that one of those vaginas I've heard so much about
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>>383614862
Play in offline mode
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>wait until my xbox live/PS+ membership runs out
>start playing dark souls

get fucked pvpfags
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MOM PULL THE PLUG
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>>383614510
>It's a NPC invader
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>>383614510
-rit
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I know this is a shitposting thread but literally why do people do this?
Why is everyone so fucking scared of dying in these games?
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>>383615096
But if I play offline I can't summon other players to help me beat the Capra Demon
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i pvped maybe 10 times in my entire dark souls career, i didnt like wasting humanity so i played the game pretty much entirely in hollow form besides before boss fights and afterwards

i played a fat build with smough set and zwei and artorias shield so i was too slow for most pvp encounters
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>>383615220
a host would rather spend ten minutes trying to outrun you and resummon his phantoms than die and pop an ember to get their buddies back in one
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>>383615096
fair enough, it's what i do anyways. it's just what you should be doing if you forgot about it
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>there are games that penalizes you if you disconnect
>it even happens if it was done by accident
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>tfw beat both D1 and D2 twice without ever touching the online
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>you lost 24 healt-
>open up cheat engine
>search for my health value
>freeze it
Heh, that will show them
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>>383614510
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>>383615489
You missed the most fun part of Souls games.
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>>383614881
Using this and Chameleon on Shrine of Amana.
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>pirated Souls 1 and 2, never played 3
>get Bloodborne, Nightmare of Mensis
>the moment I step in someone invades me
>spams axe spinning constantly
>whenever his health is low, he runs into a mob of enemies and heals back
>remember I have not-loyd's-talismans
>fight's over immediately, never invaded again

So this is the thrilling BB meta.
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You wanna fucking cheat huh.
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>>383615489
i wouldn't be able to play without at least seeing messages and blood pools. too desolate
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>he doesn't pop Dried Finger every time he enters a new area, killing invaders while he makes his way through the level
the most fun way to play DaS3 imo
truth is most invaders are total shitters and whenever you face off with a good player it's intense as heck
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>>383615667
> pvp
> souls
pffffhahahahaha
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>>383614778
This, git fucking gud faggot.
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>>383615220
I'm not scared of dying, I'm tired of an asshole with the best armor fighting me when I have jack shit, dancing around, lagging, running past enemies to heal constantly, running along the main path with enemies that aggro two at a time and can kill you in less than three hits, and constantly fishing for backstabs. It's never fun, the only time PvP in Souls is ever good is the first week of them game when no one knows anything because at least then you have fair enough fights with people who weigh spamming items and having to deal with it in their game to getting souls.

>>383615667
>Online PvP in Souls games
>"The most fun part"
Are you fucking stupid? Every single encounter has netter me people who lag like maniacs with the best armor and take nothing when I'm clearly hitting them and seeing the recoil and seeing the blood only to get immediately backstabbed. The PvP forced areas in DaS2 were some of the worst parts of the entire game.
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>>383615876
I guess the pvp mechanics are too complex for you to understand, so you feel the need to shitpost on /v/ instead of actually learning the game.
I know dying can be harsh, but man try to learn from your mistakes and get good
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>use a script and program to automatically disconnect from invading connections
>use a script and a program to automatically whitelist connection from co-op partners
>set them to a hotkey
>never lose connection to server

Fuck your PVP.
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>>383614510
>using a ziptie instead of green slime
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>>383616097
>he unironically thinks the tacked-on afterthought of pvp is the best part of souls games

you're a actual retard
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>>383615220
Because you might have been just returning to bonfire with a hefty amount of souls and some faggot slaying you and making you drop them in some shitty spot is the last thing you want?
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>>383616062
You do realize you can summon people to help you fend off invaders, right?
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I've beaten all the Souls games and Bloodborne many times over including all DLC offline. That's right, I have never once played any PvP and have never used even the smallest amount of assistance. And they are my favorite games ever regardless.

makes u mad, pvp autists?
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People pulling the plug while invading is some of the more rewarding things in pvp desu
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>>383616362
>Summoning instead of doing everything solo.
Now that's what I call ruining a first playthrough.
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>>383614881

Nerfed.

Also for pvp:
DeS=DaS1>>>DaS3>>>>>DaS2
That's my opinion as a Souls vet and dissenting opinions are objectively wrong.
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The odds are hilariously stacked in the host's favor. Only absolute shit players whine about invaders.
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>>383616448
Summoning NPCs is the true way to do first playthroughs.
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>>383616415
If playing 50% of a game makes it your favorite game of all time, your taste is awful.
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>>383616415
m8 only casuals need assistance on anything. your clear next step is to do it again but with PVP enabled while you solo through the swathes of retards who try to PVP while sucking at it and you beating ass like a boss.
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>>383616552
>Can carry you through levels instead of you needing to learn and adapt
>All you end up needing to do is learn the boss due to the extra HP.
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>>383616448
You can send your summon back and finish the game solo. It's just to get rid of those lagstabbing japs.
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>>383615220
EA actually did a study and found that americans dont like losing, ever.
so they added a pay 2 win premium to everything.
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>>383615667
I'm a poorfag who has the pirate version for the 360, its not like I locked myself out of the online by choice
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>>383616702
You're mistaken if you think NPCs do anything but die immediately lol.
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The """""""""""""""PVP"""""""""""""""" of these games is an absolute joke, that's for sure. It's either "joke build but oh wait it's actually not a joke build it just looks completely ridiculous VS clownsuit minmaxer who is super serious" fights where they flail helplessly and hope to god the other gets caught in a hitbox, or everyone circlestrafes for literally 99% of the "fight".

It's the worst shit imaginable, I have no fucking idea how people think the """"""""""""pvp"""""""""""" for this is exciting whatsoever.
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>>383614510
is that a quick release ethernet cable?
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>>383616501
>demon souls number 1
>AKA whoever has more grass wins: the game
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>>383616339
Some of the best fun I had on DaS was in forest invasions and fight clubs. You should try doing that.
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>>383615117
>paying a sub so you can let it ran out
>paying both XBl and PS+ like a welfare nigger
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>SL 70
>Invaded by a dark spirt
>My for funs Whip build
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>>383614721
>>383614778
>>383615220
>>383615809
>>383615992
>>383616529
>all these assmad invaders who can't forcefully shove their way into other people's games
Lmao, stay mad faggots. Maybe try consensual battles in an arena next time.
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>>383616062
>I'm not scared of dying
Yes you are; your complaints are fucking nonsense. PvP in DaS is completely opt-in so you can't be talking about that game. DaS2 lets the invaders twink and abuse mobs somewhat, but it's tempered by the fact that they cannot fucking heal and any damage on them is permanent unless they're running a faith build. In DaS3 PvP is not only opt-in, but you're also highly unlikely to get invaded at all unless you've summoned phantoms. Not to mention that the majority of invaders are not twinks and aren't even above average players for the most part - plus they have half estus and 30% less health. Sounds like you're just a whiny shitter
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>>383615220
>letting anyone kill you in your own game
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>>383616876
>replying to shitty baits
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>>383616350
caring for souls, lmao!
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>>383616876
This is a scrub's perspective. I expect it though since its pvp lifetime was almost a decade ago. People like me who consistently played it knew that grass could be punished hard, even dmg.
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Souls 1 had the best PvP by far.

Everything was completely viable and the buffs weren't as crazy as they became after (weapon enchant and MAYBE grass).
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>Playing a souls game online
>Not R1 spamming invaders to death for bonus souls
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>>383614881
>give people a bitch tool
>literally make it look like a big gaping vagina
Subtle, Miyazaki
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>>383614785
>0 A.D.
>ever fucking playing on a laptop
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Problem solved.
Best thing in das3 is you can literally switch covenants any time.
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>>383615220
>invade somebody at Pontiffs
>he runs back to the start of the area
>Summoning another phantom...
>Unable to summon phantom
>Connection Error has occurred

I don't get it, you're literally 5 steps away from the respawn area, why do you need to be a total bitch
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I love DCers more than any others. People who fight back or summon phantoms? They have a little gimmer of hope. People who pull the plug? They are struck with absolute terror with no possible hope of overcoming you so they just opt out
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>>383617340
>played all DaS 1-3
>always one of lowest stamina points in PvP
>but biggest weapons that takes a lot of it
>never used grass
problem?
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>>383614510
>invading me in da burg
>I'm a low level dickwraith w/ max upgraded armor & weapons
>carry TWOP & WOTG/ Force
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>>383615117
>ever having a membership for either
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>>383617698
>invading anyone in one of the most difficult boss battles
>expect them to not be nervous as fuck
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>>383617540
Blue Police Faggotry ftw.... more kills for me, also theyre nice of replenishing estuses
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>>383615667
Playing PS4 version even there's bs ppl out there with endgame gear and weapons i dont even know how the fuck they equip at soul level 15 range...this dude had a level 40 str vordts hammer, a health bar that never ended and unlimited stamina. Why the fuck is fighting something like that fun...
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>>383617340
>Souls 1 had the best PvP by far.
Man fucking kill yourself nostagiafag. DaS was laggy backstab fishing bullshit. PvP in that game was fucking miserable and everything was NOT completely viable
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>wait on a edge pretending to be afk
>emit force
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>>383617987
Are you that dumb? Invading and summoning IN battle? He meant after Pontiff, you fag, its 20cm from bonfire
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>>383615236
>I want all the benefits of help without any of the consequences of pvp
>wah I'm entitled
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>>383617819
It's more like you're an annoyance than a threat.
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can i really enjoy souls if i don't play the pvp?
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>>383618171
He's still a bigger threat than offlinefag
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>doing some pve in iron keep
>some fag invades me
>alrighty then lets duel
>takes out his cheese poison trident which he looked up on fextralife
>one hits me
>always disconnect from now on this is what u get pvp fags
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DaS3 is the pinnacle of From pandering to bad players and they still whine about invaders. I think a huge number of players would actually be in favor of removing invasions completely and that's depressing as fuck.
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>>383617874
how? they both have faith requirements that would put them outside the invasion range for lower level players
>>383617340
>no upper limit for most covenant invasions
>largely ruining the point of sl50 and 120 builds
>80% of all forest invasions are gankers where the you have to fight everyone before you can fight the host if you're lucky you wont get hornet ring backstabbed with an dmb great club.
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>>383618228
>i can really enjoy souls if i don't play the pvp

ftfy
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If I lost something other than Souls like the armor set I was wearing and had to buy it back for a high price invasions would be a lot less stressful.
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>>383618229
You're not making sense... an offline fag just wants to play PvE, which is basically where all the time and effort of the dev team went into. PvP fags are just obnoxious idiots with either autism or a superiority complex.
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>imblying I want PvP in my PvE game
neckbeards get out
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>>383618363
There should be PVP, but not invasions. Both players should agree to fight, otherwise it's just annoying.
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>invaders complain they have fewer estus, less health, etc
>have all the enemies they can pull to host
>whine that they don't get tongues for doing nothing

I never understood this shit. Invading is piss easy, you just have to not be a fucking retard that runs straight to the host. Nothing is more boring than watching some nigger run to hide behind enemies the second they take a hit. Nigga, you've got the entire fucking map to set up an ambush, use it, don't be a bitch
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>>383617998
This you?
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>>383618403
Yes, but you can also enjoy it WITH pvp
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multiplayer kills my immersion
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>>383618490
So you pay the price of a full game to just enjoy half of it?

Now who's being dumb?
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>>383618502
It's part of the experience of playing the game and it always has been.
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>>383618549
But i didn't join police, i prefer being RedFag and SpearFag, but i often use BluePoliceFags to instakill them (they mostly rush on you) and get estuses from it
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>You have been invaded by a dark spirit
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>>383618527
This. How are shitters so bad at invasions?
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>>383618646
And it's bad. You have a rich world, interesting characters, fun gameplay - why get in the way of that so some edgy kids can invade in the middle of a game. If I wanted to fight PVP, I'd choose to fight PVP. In the same way that you won't get co-op summons unless you want them, you shouldn't get enemy summons either, except for certain areas.
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>>383618549
Also what serie is it
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>>383614510
>FAGGOTXNIGGERSHITTER has invaded!
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>Invaded outside Pontiff bonfire
>Use Young White Branch
>Turn into a statue
>Hide in a not too obvious area
>Invader can't find me
>10min pass, Aldrich Faithful invades
>5min later, another Aldrich Faithful invades
>Can't find me, 20 more min. pass
>Use Seeds of a Giant Tree
>They all get smoked by the mobs

Hide and seek is fun anons.
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>>383618646
We got that youre terrible and can only win pvp against noobs with no clue. You can stop embarassing yourself now...
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>>383614881
Loved this thing in the lava castle. Faggots would hide next to the greatbow archers and get a big surprise when they get knocked into the lava
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>>383619020
kek it really is the single best thing in dark souls ever
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>>383617149
>plays an online game
>gets literally upset that others wish to play the game as the developers intended
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>Get invaded and plug pull
>Don't play offline because I want to summon and read messages

Sorry but after my first ever invasion in undead burg with some asshole trolling me I'm done with pvp and no one can do anything about it. Call me a causal all you want I'm still pulling that plug faggot ;)
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>>383618615
>If I play online, some laggy niggerfaggot will occasionally how up and try to kill me
>"half the game"
Now who's being dumb?
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>>383618970
>have ember for pontiff fight
>exit area not realizing anything
>immediately invaded x2

That's pretty fucking shitty to do to new players really
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTPNL0V0n1g
Post god-tier souls videos
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>>383614510
>play Dark Souls for the very first time in my life
>at the beginning, level 1-3
>get "invaded"
>"what is this"
>level 99999999 dude just shows up and kills me for no reason
What a great concept. I 100% play these games offline.
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>>383618783
>>383618860
>just playing dark souls 1 on pc normally
>some shitty 1000 viewers faggot streamer invades
>alt tab and quickly open ce and table
>black curse him and egghead him
>open his stream and watch the spergout
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>>383619127
You're right. No one can make you not be a bitch, but you're the one who has to live with it.
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>>383618783
>create new character
>put all stats to 99 and level around 120
>activate "no load weigth" and "infinite buff effects" scripts
>switch to blade of the darkmoon covenant

Hunting the scum has never been so fun.
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>>383619301
Sounds like he's smart desu
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>>383618783
>>383618860
>tfw infinite supply of giant tree seeds
Never had so much fun in a gayme before, using CE was not a mistake.
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>>383619125
>Dark Souls is an online game
Wewlad
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>>383614881
>>383619020
>I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with ME!
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>>383615427
literally any dev doest that

It's like the most stupid design decision in 30-40 years of videogame history but they still do it
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>>383614510
tfw I was never a poor sport during games
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>>383618376
SL 18 cleric w/ master key
>>383618970
>seeds last less than a minute due to the last patch
Thanks FROM
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>>383619234
Sure, not like he can invade only -10% of level. Also you can't be lvl 1-3 unless you took deprived and you were/are retarded
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>>383615427
>play Smash Bros. for Wii U
>the connection is so fucking bad that I get kicked out of the match that I couldn't even play anyway
>get penalized for ten minutes
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>>383619614
Are you telling me that he cannot have been level 99999999?
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>>383619405
>game has multiple mechanics build around online existing
yes that would make it an online game
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>>383619405
>No retort
>Resorts to the white flag of memes
Like pottery
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>>383619612

Yeah, that was a weird BS move.
Lets make it harder for the invaded.
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>>383615667
>pvp
>the most fun part
>in a souls game

Nope.
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>>383619736
>play offline
Not anymore.
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>>383619735
I can also tell you, you are noob
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>all this casual pride
Purge this board
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>>383615667
>invader swings weapon 3 meters away from me
>get hit because his sword is apparently 4 of them glued together
Such fun
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>>383616828
>Poorfag
>Animeposter
>Pirating a 6 year old game
Checks out
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Twinking will never be missed
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>>383619251
Link
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>>383619876
You sure seem proud of your taste in a terrible genre with tank controls...
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>>383619251
What's CE?
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>>383619251
>>383619329
Hahaha hilarious guys! xD
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>>383619909
my favorite is where the game plays the impact sounds and makes the blood splashes but they take no damage. Practically have to be hugging their dick to hit them with anything shorter than a washingpole.
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>>383614510
What's the point of even playing if you can't handle invasions?
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>people in this thread who feel proud of spending hundreds of hours in a game + reading wikis to know about every single broken mechanic and OP item/gear, all to invade people who are probably playing the game for the first time

Serious autism.
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>>383618171
This is usually what they tell themselves to justify their utter cowardice.
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>>383620252
i learned all this from playing normally
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>>383614510
>DS3 punishes you by making you play with hackers if you do this
>their anti cheat system is nonexistent

Bravo, From, bravo
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>>383620252
>Broken mechanic
>OP item/gear
Keep getting cucked by twinks, nigger.
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>tfw level 268 and no longer gets summoned as blue cop

I always have despised pvp anyway
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>>383614510
>das1
>shitter with le giantdad build midrolling with fully upgraded giants + chaos zweihander invades in parish when im sl 15
>absolutely destroy him with a +5 reinforced club, chain backstab him for a few eons
>he doesnt know how to escape it
>he alt+f4s before dying
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>>383620390
>Level 268
what NG are you on?
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>>383620390
>leveling past 120

For what purpose?
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>have higher health
>more etus charges
>able to summon three faggot whiteknights AND a Blueberry
>can cast Seed of The Giant and make level enemies fight invaders while everything above still applies
>people STILL complain about invasions when they literally have all the advantages

Fucking how?
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>>383620460
>leveling past 80
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Good thing you get banned from online after 12 disconnects.
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>connection error
>connection error
>connection error
I must admit. PC may be more active, but the community is shit. Just kill yourself like a real man if you don't want to fight.
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>>383620532
>leveling past 60
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>>383620519
>being THIS awful

Holy shit nigga just don't run straight towards the host like a rere, you have the entire fucking map, got fucking gud
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>>383619736
>>383619767
>invasion fags can't feed off of newbies and pve players anymore
Sad. People who use eye orbs are fags that get their shit kicked in in soapstone summoning battles. It's literally that simple.
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>>383614510
>be in Subway eating a sandwich
>someone else invades the Subway
>starts trying to eat MY sandwich
>people expect me to just sit there and let him eat it instead of leaving
There is nothing wrong with disconnecting when you're invaded in Dark Souls. I do it every time.
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>>383620519
Because people are fucking horrible at this game.
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>>383620603
>leveling past 1
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>>383620265
>cowardice
Cowardice is invading another player instead of having a mutually agreed 1v1.
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>>383614510
(You)
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>>383620631
>Gank-spanking like it's my job
Yeah I'm a fag. Sorry you get rocked by so many faggots, anon. Maybe they're just better than you.
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What I gathered from this thread
>noobs who play darksouls cause some news journalists said it was hard
>only in for the pve
>some veteran joins his game to purely grief
Yeah I think i'll just stick to the pirated versions.
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>>383620519
Because the average player is shockingly bad at the game. I would never even think to summon help while exploring a level but I've seen tons of players who have three fucking phantoms just to kill enemies
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>want to make a lancer or halbidier
>all those weapons end up being bad

At least give me a real fucking one handed war hammer or axe. Sword and board is boring af.
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>>383620780
>Gank-spanking
Guarantee you lose 9/10 of the Gank squads. Try summoning in an arena some time, where the actual pvpers with skill play.
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>All these casual babies in this thread
>"WAH WAH INVADURS ARE DUM STUPID IDIOTHEAD FAGGOTS STOP RUINING MY GAME"
Always point down, invaders.
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>>383620880
>ignoring the black knight halberd
You can definitely get away with using only that and a wood grain ring is DaS
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>>383620870
This.

I've watched people play Dark Souls on Twitch and these people have ZERO spacial awareness.
>open up a shortcut
>confused where they are
>go in circles
>miss an obvious new route
>"i think this place is new"
it's painful
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>>383614510
>still invading with cracked red eye orbs
>some faggot does this
>game still eats my orb
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>>383620947
I prefer the spontaneous-ness of an invasion, so I'm gonna keep invading. Plus, arena has no incentives.
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>>383620950
ITT: the same 3 retards trying to shit on the actual core fanbase while stroking their own dicks
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>>383620519
People are really really bad. Mizahacki had to nerf DaS3 invasions so fucking hard and people still cry on forums when they get spanked.
The system in DaS2 was perfect, but they just had to fuck it up in DaS3.
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>>383620445
giantdads was always going to be an awful build
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>>383621118
>The actual core fanbase
Show me the statistics that show the "core fanbase" being made up of whiny babies that only PVE. Most people that play Dark Souls know that online-play opens you up for invasions. Play offline, fag.
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>>383621042
Then don't get mad when people purposefully DC cause they're just trying to play PvE, faggot, or when people Gank the fuck out of you.
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>>383620950
why so edgy, anon?

>kill the host
>applaud gesture
>throws "very good!"
>drops 1 fainting soul
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>>383620947
>where the actual pvpers with skill play
>das3
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>Robespierre (Insect Glaive) has entered the room
>Salú-
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>>383621295
Hate those fuckers more than longsword users
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>>383621212
Easy, just compare sale numbers to the population of players who have participated in more than just a handful of invasions or pvp summonings. There is a huge difference in numbers.
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>>383614510
You're the reason Dark Souls 3's invasion system got so fucked.
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>>383621214
If you wanna play PVE without the risk of invasions, don't ember. Simple. As soon as you connect online you have no reason to bitch about being invaded, especially with all the advantages you have over the invader (unless they're twinking). Sorry the game is too hard for you to play by yourself :^)
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>>383621214
If only there was some way to guarantee that you won't get invaded by anyone
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i fucking hate dark souls 3 pvp
>invade someone
>try to attack
>no reaction
>he doesn't even try to attack me as if im actually not there to begin with
>can't damage him but i try to follow
>he just walks around in cirles around the bonfire as if he has no plan why he can't use it
>he dies to some enemies because he has no estus to heal him
the pvp in ds 2 was shit and a lagfest but ds 3 is a whole different level
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I don't get why people are so worried about invaders, you win or you die and death pretty much doesn't matter in the Souls games so why avoid a little fun?
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The only time I get upset from being invaded is when the invader is so overpowered compared to me that there is no way I can kill him even if I play much better than him. Like if he's twinked out with a +15 weapon or he's using CE. It's not fun to hit a guy 15 times and do damage, then get killed in one hit.

Regular invasions are fine, normal invaders make the game more fun and interesting.
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>>383621379
>Sale numbers
You know a ton of people quit at Gundyr, right?
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>>383618527
>ive never invaded in my life
>what are ganksquads that hang out by the bonfire and dont move
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>>383621445
Pulling the plug when they try to
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>>383621471
I hate it for entirely different reasons
>Enjoy getting invaded to spice up my playthrough
>Be forced to summon phantoms to have even a chance of getting an invader

>Want to invade others to give them the same spice
>Game only matches you with hosts with phantoms
>Every invasion is a 3v1/4v1 shitfest
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>>383620449
NG+3, I finished my first run with level 120 and my third run was full havel suit, it was fun
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I thought Dark Souls was about defeating your opponent by any means necessary?
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>>383621532
Agreed, when twinking or CE is involved pulling the plug is perfectly acceptable.
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>>383621502
Some people just can't handle not winning. It's like having road rage when you're just playing a video game.
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>>383621441
>>383621445
>waaah, nobody wants to play with me, waaah
>I just want to use this tacked on, intrusive feature so I can feel like I'm good when I beat up newbs
>I'm gonna go and complain about other players doing things I don't like, like ganking or DCing, even though I myself am doing things players don't like
Mhm... go on.
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>>383621549
What's your point? They're still not pvpers.
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>>383621562
I've been invading in Ds3 since it started, I've encountered two tank squads, and even then it's hard to call it that because there were enemies still around.

Get fucking gud you shitter
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>>383621816
>Complain the feature is intrusive
>It's literally called Invasion
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>>383621936
>invade a player who is doing pve
>complain when they pull the plug
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>>383621816
>Never complained about getting ganked
It's part of the game. If I get ganked then so be it
>"nobody wants to play with me"
I've already beaten the game, retard. What's left for me other than dueling and invading? You think I'm gonna invite my buddy to play fucking Dark Souls with me?
>Frogposter
Oh, well, that explains the autism.
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>>383621924
>Invading since day 1
>Only EVER encountered 2 gank squads
Wanna know how I know you're full of shit anon
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>>383622021
>trying to play pve with pvp mode enabled
>complaining when pvp triggers
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>>383622021
>doing pve
No he's not "doing pve", he's playing Dark Souls. Invasions are part of Dark Souls.
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>>383622034
>It's part of the game. If I get ganked then so be it
I don't think you know what ganking means in the context of dark souls
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>>383622021
>Game has built-in methods of avoiding Invasion
>Just disconnect your internet instead lol
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>>383622021
>PVEing online
>Pulling the plug when online-only stuff happens
>Trying to justify it on 4chan
Wew
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>>383622154
Yes, I do. If I invade then I recognize that I'll probably run into a host with a phantom or 2 (or 17). If that's the case I either black crystal or fight, but I don't complain about it because I knew there was a chance it would happen.
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>>383622034
>it's part of the game
So is coming across players who don't want to play with you

>I already beat the game, what else is there to do?
New builds, NG+, boss rushing, or playing a different game instead of sperging out online and invading like a cuck

>frog poster lol, autism
>posts a shiba
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>invaders get angry they have to work for their pale tongues

Holy shit how fucking entitled are you niggers? Invading is so fucking easy and you faggots make it sound like it's difficult. You incur none of the risks the host does (I've seen some trash tier nigger crying BBBBUT I COULD LEAVE A BLOOD STAIN! as a legit risk). Don't even try giving me that bullshit of "but I could lose souls too!" If you're invading while you have souls you're a fucking retard or a shitter, which is it?
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>>383622057
Wannabe know how I know you're bad if encountering more than one enemy makes you cry?
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I've encountered maybe 4 ganks, I say maybe because one was a red phantom summon outside LGK and they could have been getting rid of anyone that wants to be summoned by LGK. Never encountered any twinks, then again I didn't play 1 at the height of it's popularity
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>>383622296
>"Waaaah invadurs are stupid cucks that keep ruining my fun!! >:("
I've played the fuck out of this game across multiple NG+ cycles and with however-many builds. If I get on DaS3 now I'm getting on to invade or duel. It's not "sperging out" it's playing the fucking game.
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>>383622081
>>383622109
>>383622156
>>383622162
>Still trying to dictate what others do
Sad. Complain all you want, people will still DC, and you'll still go online to bitch about it :^)
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>>383622330
This entire thread is shitters bitching about invasions and you somehow came to the conclusions it's the invaders who are mad?
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>>383614510
Some PvP stories?
>dark souls 2 sotfs
>be decent in pvp
>co-oping with my friend that is playing for the first time
>some absolute shitter invades with twinked agape ring gear in heide's tower of flame with his epic one shot crystal soul spear
>takes a long time to kill cuz he keeps backpedalling to enemies, but there's 2 of us and I do way less mistakes than him
>eventually beat him
>we both do welcome
>instantly get a group invite
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>Playing Dark Souls for the first time about a week after it was released on consoles
>Get invaded just a bit before the gargoyles
>Its some guy in some pretty fancy armor and a rather large sword
>Hit him once
>1 damage
>He hits me
>Die instantly
>Discover much later he was using black knight armor and a +15 lightning zwei

>Much later in the area before the tomb of giants
>Get invaded again
>Its some naked guy
>Flip flip flip flip, eventually backstabs me cause he's so laggy
>Die in one hit again from 1000+hp
>He was using some backstab build that one shots

Never bothered with Souls invasions again, its just ganking faggots as far as the eye can see.
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I have a friend who bought Ds3 on steam sales, here's the problem:

He's the kind that barely puts an effort trying to learn mechanics, doesn't explore and treats any game as a linear speed run and he only plays overwatch, and he's all like "ds3 seems fun let's play together!" He has no idea what he's getting into
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>>383621924
Do you invade at base SL or something? How the fuck have only encountered two gank squads if you're such an avid invader?
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>>383622507
Have you even read? All I ever see in these threads are shitters whining that they can't just be shit and get tongues. Now got gud already, invading is piss easy.
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>>383622484
People will still invade, and you'll still go online to bitch about it :^)
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I didnt knew that cutting connection from invaders pissed them so much, i gotta do this more, maybe ill even make them chase me for quite some time before cutting the connection.
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>>383622565
How are you so bad that you can't handle more than one player when you have a mentored map to hide in or you could just wait for another invader? Seriously how did you even get out of undead settlement?
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>>383622478
Maybe you shouldn't be a poorfag and play other games then.
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>>383614510
>Farming Blue Sentinel summons
>Wait at Heide's Tower right outside the Ornstein fight, up the bridge
>Alt tab out and do something else
>Soon as the music stops I know I'm being invaded or being called to help
>See it's an invasion
>Wait for him, wave to him, let him cast his buffs
>Turn around and go into the Ornstein room, disconnecting him

Git wrecked son. Was amazing how mad some of those guys got when they got me for the second or third time, sprinting up the bridge, desperately trying to stop me.
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>You have been invaded by a dark spirit
>Its a female spirit
WHAT DO?
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>>383622775
I haven't touched DaS3 in over a month. Nice assumption, faggot. If the game is too hard for you you can take a break at any time :^D
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>>383622675
But I don't really get invaded, I always pull the plug on man children like you and watch you throw tantrums online :^)
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>>383622712
>>383622391
Nice deflections, faggot. We all know you're an arena shitter.
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>>383622874
>I haven't touched it in months!
Then you really have no reason to be here lmao
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>soapstone ""invading"" in undead settlement as mad phantom
>soapstone summoned purples can pull enemy aggro by default
>game spawns me in around where you find Yoel
>run like a madman across the bridge and thru the gate, pulling aggro of every dog possible
>run until I find the host in the first building past the bonfire
>a wave of 7-8 dogs crashes upon his body and he is torn to shreds after a 4 hit combo
feels good man
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>>383622876
>I don't get invaded
>I always pull the plug
LARPing again, anon? :^)
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First play through if I got the game on launch I will do invasions.
If the game has been out for a little while, or I am replaying it later, I generally don't bother. By that point it's a metagame fest where everyone has found a way to be unbeatable and destroy you with no effort.

I like the play Souls games blind, so I have no chance against a metagaming minmaxer. The times I have attempted to actually fight them I do 1/20th of their health and they one shot, assuming it isn't one of the souls games where the one shot is ranged.
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>>383622851
thrown dung pies at it & spam gestures for BC
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>>383622964
>cries about ganks
>same kind of shitter that runs directly for the host, dies and then cries about how hard it is to invade

Loving every Laugh
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What even happens if you pull the plug? Does the invader just vanish or do you get kicked to the title screen as well?
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>>383623057
I wouldn't even be mad
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>>383622997
I play Dark Souls, anon. Having played and enjoyed all 3 I think a Dark Souls-related thread is the perfect place to go into. I like the white flag, tho
>G-Go away!!"
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>>383623116
Show me some sick replays of you 1v4, lucy
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>>383623065
>posting a nonsensical retort
Lol, well if you are done being retarded I'm just gonna stop replying now
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>>383623179
it'll boot you to the main menu
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>>383623213
How bad are you that you don't know how to back out of a gank or set up an ambush??
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>>383622851
thats me on the right
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>>383623198
>white flag
I don't think you know what this means. You've said it twice now.
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>>383623263
You hug box awaits
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>>383623292
fist me with your dark hand. I want that SL15 prisoners chain inside me.
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You could just play offline? Do you just play online so you can specifically disconnect from invaders? Boy, you sure are showing the invaders, they have to load back into their world and find someone who isn't a pussy to fight.
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>>383617340
lol no
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>>383623287
So might as well fight and die then.
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>>383623390
No srsly, how bad are you that you cry about ganks? It's like cyber bullying, just exit out the world lmao like just look away nigga
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>>383623421
haha you mad on the internet
disconnectfags win again
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>>383623421
>has to tell everyone how not mad they are

Oh dear
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>tfw sitting in belltower for 2 hours while watching streams/doin rando shit on tablet, alt F4ing every idiot just as they get to you
>rat covenant 4 lyfe niggas.
>also HUR DUR DS2 or w/e.
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-ral slide 1 has broken down
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>>383623374
>you hug box
Phone poster revealed. The irony.
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>>383615667
>most fun part
>not writing "try tongue but hole"
wrong
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>>383623467
ram me with that blessed caestus, lucy! I want your chaos dagger so deep I feel it in my spine! I-
>connection error
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>>383615773
max comfy
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>>383623496
>>383623553
I almost never invade, I'm actually a co-op fag. I can have the opinion that OP is a bitch without actually being affected by his shenanigans believe it or not.
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>>383618851
I know, I would've given you the sauce, but it was stolen, then stolen again by his hot fake girlfriend.
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>>383618107
>entitled
>in a video game I paid for
Of course I'll play my game however I want.
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>>383617415
>get your ass handed to you
>l-lol y-you are a bitch for not playing according to my arbitrary rules haha :^)
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It's a pity invading in 3 is such bullshit
>can have up to three friendly phantoms
>purples win by getting any kill, so they'll often attack reds
>reds hurt each other while attacking, friendlies don't
>invasion covenant areas (watchdogs, faithful) are just tacked on to regular areas not specially made for it (like the belltowers and rats were)
>giant seeds just handed to you outside of firelink
>>
>Get invaded in Demon's Souls
>Suck horribly

>Get invaded in Dark Souls 1
>Shit but sometimes succeed

>Get invaded in Dark Souls 2
>Fucking undefeated so far

>Get invaded in Blodborne
>Suck horribly

Why is it that I find getting invaded in DaS2 so damn easy where whoever invades me gets their as whooped by me? I haven't got invaded yet in Dark Souls 3.
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>>383623918
it doesn't help that it prioritizes invading hosts that have phantoms to make it more dangerous for them
if there's more than one phantom it should honestly spawn two invaders at once instead of just one
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>>383619020
>>383619463
>tfw using seed in Belfry sol +7 and hiding
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>>383614510
If you're disabling the online part of the game then you're just missing half the point of playing Dark Souls.
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>>383623918
To be honest it CAN be really fun, but people go into it with the duel mindset and get frustrated when that doesn't work out. Invasions are intended to last upward of twenty minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzUuUvdiW8&list=PLn1UK5vFQdjWQhS1Hh-cKxVnTMjBkyATs&index=2
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>>383623686
Tell me why fighting more than one person is so scary, plead. I want to understand this.
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>>383623918
>being this bad at invading

How? How does this happen?
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>>383614785
>>383617537
Jokes on you guys, I'm on a portable gaming RIGHT NOW and you CAN'T stop me!!

I travel a lot, okay? Who wants to lug around a monitor, tower, keyboard and mouse everywhere?
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>>383624115
>but people go into it with the duel mindset
Fuck this.
Invasions were implemented as a way for players to be evil and fuck over each other. Duels were reserved for an item you couldn't get until NG+.
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>>383619660
If you don't have an ethernet adapter you've basically forfeited all rights to complain, much like Burgers who complain about Nip lag while playing wireless in Splatoon.
>>
My problem with invasions is the same with any other game with pvp as an extra activity. The people that decide to attack are the ones that have made their character specifically for pvp, where as you may be trying to do a mostly pve play through.
After a week all the invaders look the same and are using all the cheapest and most overpowered items and equipment.

The idea of being able to hop into a game to fight the host is really interesting, but the mentality ruins it.
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>>383622530
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>>383624396
>people want to win
shocking
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>>383624390
>Duels were reserved for an item you couldn't get until NG+
lol no, duels were made up by autists who started crying because they couldn't handle the fact they got fucking owned
I still love receiving fanmail from salty fucks who go
>M-MUH HONOR M-MUH DUELS M-MUH BOWING
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>>383624396
That's why they have half the estus of hosts and get 30% reduced HP.
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>>383614510
no
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>>383618615
>half
PvE is 93% of the game. Another 5% is made up of things that help PvE, like "chest ahead" and summoning people to help you. The final 2% is made up of invasions. Why do you think the balance for PvP is always shit? It's an afterthought.
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>>383624115
The bow meta recently has been pretty good, but thing I'll never get over is the hit detection.
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>>383624693
Yeah, the invader has no benefits, like being able to go anywhere in the map they want, pulling enemies or God forbid something intelligent like putting on an obscuring ring and getting out a bow.

GIT

FUCKING

GUD
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>>383624616
>fanmail in 2017
I don't believe you
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>>383624484

But not everyone wants to look up the best leet minmax strat one shot build, and then those people are punished for it with invincible invaders. It punishes blind play, in a sense.

>>383624693

Which means nothing when you do 8x as much damage as the host and have spells/buffs that the player you're invading does not (since they didn't grind for them and sequence break to reach the NPC). It offsets it slightly, but invaders still have a massive advantage if they're specifically built for invading. Exception being where the host has friends, of course.
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>>383624886
You're assuming most invaders know what they're doing.

They don't. At all.
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>>383625112
I'll admit that low level invasions favor the invader, as most people being invaded are just playing through the game. Low level invaders are scum.
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>>383625118
And that's where all the whining comes from. Seriously, just use the fucking map to your advantage. It's so fucking easy to put on an obscuring ring and just wait by a ladder that it's fucking painful
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>>383624949
You'd be surprised how many salty people there are in DaS3
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>>383617149
>there are ways to play the game without invasions
>retard can't be bothered to use them, pulls cable instead
What a gigantic faggot.
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>>383622528
>playing for the first time
>cooping

Why would anyone ever do that?
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>>383625349
>STOP PLAYING NOW I DONT WANT YOU TO!
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>>383625349
Is he not supposed to use an option given to him by the game?
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>>383625394
>>383625608
I don't see the fun in letting someone else play the game for you. Phantoms basically roll the red carpet for someone to walk to the end of a level.
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>>383614510

I had an old CoD/Madden type roomie that got into the Souls games and I never witnessed him disconnect. Just play offline if you dislike invades.

DCs were frustrating as hell in DS3. I actually had hosts, after their summons died to me, go off and DC.
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>>383625310
Either way it's avouded, what does it matter to you?
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>>383620707
If you can't deal with dying then dark souls is not the game for you.
Besides, invading is a fun intended game mechanic. In dark souls 3 if you don't have phantoms with you, you'll extremely rare will get invaded and if you do you have more health and estus anyway.
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>>383625801
They're both playing. What's the problem?
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>>383625841
It wastes time for both players involved.
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DS3 pvp is a disgrace but destroying a team of 3 in Grand Archives was pretty funny
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>>383624150
Not everything is so fucking extreme you god damn flaming faggot, sometimes it's just irritating as fucking hell to get jumped by 2 other guys while you're fighting one guy why's everything gotta be a fucking pissing match you stupid shit
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>get invaded in the sunken keep dlc
>grinding twinkling and bones so area is level 30+
>get invaded
>he finds me and smug taunts
>I land a riposte on his first attack
>he runs away and casts a miracle to heal
>gets oneshotted by level 7 enemy after seed
DS2 online is the best even if I'm just farming items the encounters are always interesting. I guess if it was really an issue I could burn an effigy
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>>383614510
you wanna fuckin cheat huh?
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Whoever's invaded me was a straight sword wielding meta fag so I always assume its these types that find invading/being invaded fun.

Last guy got a parry to his face after swinging duals all the time like a fag and plowing through my supposed heavy weapon hyper armor like it was nothing. Probably wont ever have the chance to kill an invader like that ever again and I'm ok with that. Stocking giant seeds like its nobody's business for the next ones.
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>>383625994
First time player doesn't get to explore and see that many new things or learn from the world when he's constantly following someone experienced telling them what to do or where to go. Or even killing majority of the enemies so the new guy just steps over the corpses and gets a wrong view of the game.
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>>383619125
>gets literally upset
Hey, retard. How would one get upset figuratively ?
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>>383615667
t. buy shill
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>>383621532
Literally what happened to me with DaS1 back in 2013 when I bought it on sale.
>go human in parish
>immediatelly invaded
>it's some guy with lightning shotel and armor I can't remember which
>try to hit him
>do like 4 damage
>he hits me once and I die

that left me so sour taste in my mouth I didnt bother going human again until like sl110
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Invaders>Shit>>>>>>>>>Metafags

If you play Souls for purely for fair 1v1 PvP, you are more autistic than people who play Smash competitively.
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>>383624616

I actually had a lot of nice messages back and forth after fun invades/fights. The only hate mail I've ever received was from either bad salty players or people that would actually disconnect and then felt the need to trash talk. They remind me of rage quitters in fighting games.
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>all these super assmad invaders being butthurt over people not playing exactly how they want
grow up
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>>383626706

Exactly. It's like a friend loaning you a game but proceeding to be a backseat driver while you play. No surprises or anything.
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>>383620519
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>>383627039
Maybe just a waistcloth with no chest armor and a random helmet?
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>>383621532
>>383627039
Weapon memory was the best change DS3 ever made. Prisoners chain still fucks everything up though.
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>>383614510
>I want to make the game significantly easier with helpful spirits
Ok sure, but here, you can be invaded so it's balanced
>WHAAAAAAH NO I WANT MY EASYMODE WITH NO DOWNSIDES FUCK YOU FROMSOFT REEEEEEEEEEEEE
git gud
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>>383617151
>invaders can't heal
Except with humanity, heal spells etc.
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>>383627039
similar shit happened to me at the same spot in 2016 when I first played through it
I've never been invaded outside undead parish
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>>383614881
NO USING THOSE IS NOT HONORABLE NOW EXCUSE ME WHILE HIDE BEHIND THESE ALONNE KNIGHTS AND SPAM HEXES
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>>383614881
Wow not cool.

How am I supposed to lure you into giant crabs?
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Wait, do people actually summon players to complete levels, instead of just summoning at the boss fog?

What the fuck
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>>383627905
>DS2
>humanity
DS2 is the only one of the three where the humanizing item doesn't heal you
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>>383614510
I actually did that the first time I played dark souls

I felt pretty bad for being such a pussy. I wasnt ready for it...
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>>383617110
That witch whip SA was pretty fun for a while to catch rolling faggots that run away when they're about to die
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>never invaded someone
>never summon phantoms
>only help people with bosses and invaders as the blue police
>run back when i get invaded ro fight them at the bonfire
The only shit is when you get against laggy meta fags. But who cares? I died next to a bonfire and have some faggy meta longsword in my backhand.
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>>383617340
>ninja flipping in heavy armor
>pursuer & dark bead
>retarded backstab fishing
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>>383614510
Why would you need to disconnect when you have 3 phantoms handing your hand?
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>>383620519

>all the advantages

>hit guy
>he magically i-frames through it even though blood/hit spark
>roll 5 feet out of the way of his weapon
>hits me anyway
>smash him with a greatsword
>parry he completely missed actually connects and he nearly kills me
>hits me again as I'm backing up and completely out of range of him
>rinse repeat this exact bullshit for 95% of invasions

Yeah sure there's no reason anyone would ever complain about being invaded by a guy who seems like he connected to your game from fucking Mongolia.

PVP in Souls is garbage I have no clue how anyone actually 'likes' it. Everything feels completely disjointed in the combat like you have to play with a huge fucking delay in mind, while the rest of the game has crisp pretty crisp hitboxes/combat.
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>get angry when people dc
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>>383628568
This.mig your connection to the host is shut then you should get shrekt for being poor
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>>383617340
>forest pvp
>kiln duels against havelfags, giantdads, and greatshield turtles
>flippy backstab motherfucks
>black knight greataxe
>dark bead
>pursuers
>+15 weapon twinks with fully upgraded armor

AAAHHHH
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>>383614510
>Be me
>Get invaded
>Accept my face
>Person kills me
>Messages me "lol why didn't you fight back"
>After few msgs we become buddies
>Turns out it's a girl
>Become friends
>Become a couple
>Ask her if she wants to meet for fugs
>She says yeah but we should it in my house, it's "kinkier"
>Wait for her to come over
>Invite her in
>"I have a fetish anon"
>My dick about to explode
>I tell her "let's try it"
>She rolls behind me and pegs me
>Lifts both her arms yelling "GIT GUD! PRAISE THE SUN SCRUB"

Fucking hate dark souls
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>>383628890
almost believed you there
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I remember when some faggot got mad because I ran to the boss door instead of fighting him
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>>383628890
was this 'girl' Afro?
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>pc cucks literally play in offline mode because their userbase is so cancer that they break your save with invasions and hacked weapons and get you soft banned
>all the pc cucks sitting there spamming threads and applauding some cuck doing this for literal days during dark souls 3 launch on pc
>pc cucks are this much cancer

good thing you faggots cant bandwagon a dead franchise anymore, good riddance, hopefully oyu cucks moved onto fucking PUBG or some shit, you're fucking cancer
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>>383628801

Shocking I knew someone would just blame it on my end like I'm an inept moron who can't figure out how a modem works.

Nah, face the music bitch babby, PVP is souls is garbage and people who go out of the way to play it are retards. PS4 is directly hooked to my main line and DS/BB are the only games that act like that. Almost like the game is p2p and has no servers ?... weird huh ?
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>>383629218
>bawwww my connection is shit!i should get free tongues

Lol what a fucking baby
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>invade near pontiff
>see host and phantoms in distance
>hiding by a doorway with DSGA
>another invader shows up
>they have a DSGA and take the other side of the doorway
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>pirate souls game
>play offline, grind my ass off
>SL 300 before NG+
i usually play shit like disgaea, not sure what i expected
still a great game, haven't touched das2 onwards yet
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>>383629278

alright you can stop trying to bait now hun

>using an insult someone used on you

What's wrong ? brain so small you can't see that pvp in DS is bad ? can't come up with your own insults ? aww
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>>383629459
Nice rebbit spacing, kiddo. Maybe you shouldn't play online games if you're so poor you can't even get 1mbps? Lol
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>>383629459
>hun
back to redit
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>>383614881
Turn it upside down what does it look like now.
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>>383629548
>>383629548
a pear
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>>383629459
>>383629531
what are you trying to gain with these stupid arguments
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>>383628890
>>She rolls behind me and pegs me
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>>383618615
>buying the game to play pve

hmm I'm pretty sure that you're the dumb one here
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>>383614881
>waaah people should play PVP you're a casual bitch if you don't play one of the core parts of the game!
>use seed
>waaah you're a casual bitch for using a core part of the game on me!
WOOOW BUGGED PVP MECHANICS THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO!
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>>383618783
>>383619329
>>383619395
Can you still cheat while playing dark souls (1-3) online? I thought it got patched
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>>383615427
Most games don't do this as long as you shout "oops!" into the mic as soon as it happens.
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>>383629531
>>383629542

>get told your games pvp is garbo trash nobody should bother with
>go back to REDIT

You two are fucking adorable. I haven't touched that site since I went to go see what it even looks like. Any other zingers you two dumbfucks ?

Didn't even know it was word filtered because I don't bother talking about how people type words, or bring up the website at all.
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>>383629173
>using cuck 5 times in 4 lines
expand your vocabulary, son
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>>383616062
this desu.

But you could just play offline (unless you just like seeing phantoms of other players and blood pools or Messages in which case I DO get it)
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>>383629615
WRONG, try again Anon. What does it REALLY look like?
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People that try to defend not pvping is like trying to argue with blizzdrones that arena in wow wasnt the best addition to the game, yeah balance was shit but fuck me if it wasnt fun
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>>383615667
>lagstabs are a feature
>git gud
>twinking is a feature
>git gud
>*wogs u*
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>>383629653

Let's see.

>tell anon his p2p pvp game is shit
>no it's not your internet is just bad :^)
>almost like clockwork they just scream REDIT GO BACK PLS
>no argument that their games pvp isn't a shitty joke

Top keks, there's not even an argument. I'm watching them eat piles of shit and asking them why they enjoy it.
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In all of the Souls games, why are the Forest Hunters the best covenant?
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>>383619909
Was he using the dark sword
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>>383629990
The great thing about cuck is that you can use the word cuck for pretty much any word and it still comes out making sense.

For instance, the more I cuck this post, as long as I cuck it slowly, it still makes cuck.

Cucks like this cuck are cuck, because I can cuck them all I cuck. Cuck even makes cucks cuck.

Cucks don't cuck cucks when cucks have a cuck like cuck since cuck can cuck cuck.

Cuck probably cuck cuck in cuck, cuck cuck.

Cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck, cuck cuck?
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>>383629990
>waaaaaah he called me a cu ck1!!!!1
>reddit help meee!!11

fuck off back to neogaf/ reddit you cancerous cuck of a man, go pretend your tranny wife is anything but a whore
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>>383630392
>>383630418
I call people cucks all the time but you need to throw at least a little spice into your language
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Souls becoming mainline has literally destroyed the community.
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>>383629983
Senpai if your connection is so bad that you have to rely on I frames and lag in order to win a invasion, you're objectively shit
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Non consensual pvp is just an annoyance

Its a retarded mechanic, specially since dark souls is sold as a pve game
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>>383614510
>get invaded
>invader corrupts data
>some shitheads manage to ruin invading for me
i gave up and just play offline nowadays
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I'm hollow 99% of the time so this never happens to me anyway.
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>>383630962
How does this even work?
And do you have to pick up a +11 weapon to get softbanned?
Always wondered.
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>>383630805

>win a invasion

What the fuck are you talking about. This has been about being invaded the entire time. The game inherently has latency issues because of p2p and ruins the entire flow of the combat.

Also why would I bother Invading in DS3 when the host is going to always have a ganksquad ? Yeah nothing more fun then accidentally hitting your invader buddies as the 3 dipshits you're trying to kill just carelessly swing through eachother and stunlock you to death.

I've rarely had a "good" fight in DS pvp and it's only been from putting a red sign down.
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So what does everyone think of the DLC??
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>>383631121
>scriptkiddie opens up cheat engine
>invade somebody
>change their gear to a buggy mess
>plug the router
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>>383616062
>never got gud

You should play some Sims.
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>>383631121
Some bosses can be killed before the host enters the room, which can softlock your save
I know killing Aldrich before the host enters the room fucks the save
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>>383631292
Then why the fuck did you get so angry with me agreeing with you you dumb nigger?
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>>383617987
>Pontiff
>Difficult
>
>>
asd
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>>383614881
>Invade into world
>Giant seed icon
>host already has 2 phantoms
>kill phantoms
>host summons more while rolling and chugging
>kill phantoms again
>host rolls and chugs forever
>again
>hust summons more phantoms
>again
>now I'm out of estus
>keep distance and wait
>another invader finally appears
>we go together
>play safe while he tanks for me
>manage to kill phantoms and restore some estus
>chase host to ends of the earth
>connection lost

How did they get so far into development and not realize how dumb this would be
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>>383620519
>Can infintely summon phantoms
>Can just change covenant and tack on the sentinel icon to automatically summon blue boys
>Can essentially hide forever while the phantoms continue to search for the invader
>Can gain 1 estus flask use for each invader slain
>People still complain about invaders having unfair advantages

It honestly disgusts me that they're given so many advantages and ignore them for the 2 or three advantages invaders get that can be taken away from them. It's so fucking sad that they have to act like children about that.

>>383628568
Your shitty connections to hosts/invaders besides, none of these are advantages to either you nor the person you're invading/protecting, idiot. Why did you bother posting?
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>>383625801
What if you dedicate yourself to just follow him as he explores and such, letting him lead instead of carrying him? I usually do that in coop games, even if I already finished the games I pretend to act like it's a blind run so their fun isn't ruined
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>>383632814
What did that faggot have to lose from fighting you? Has he been collecting souls since the start of the game and not spending them EVER? Any time you die, you can easily just farm thrice the amount of souls you've lost in one farming/summoning session, for the most part.

Why bother going through all that bullshit just to disconnect from the servers? Why EVEN play online if you're not expecting to be playing online? It's the dumbest shit
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>>383614881
>tfw host wastes his seed on you when he could be using it on someone who is actually good
t-thanks?
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>>383633109
>not disconnecting against longsword user #29463 or estoc user #26353
Call me mad but this thread proves me that this creates a massive butthurt. I loved DaS2 bridge pvp but 3 is just the same meta cancer over and over and over and over again.
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>>383633341
Parrying with anything trivializes those players because of how they spam R1 and the parry window is so forgiving around DS3.

But yeah, fuck them too.
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>>383633341
>Ragequits
>no you guys are mad and salty not me
straight sword and estoc hasn't even been that good for a few updates.
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>>383633341
>disconnecting after the invader has beaten all the odds and survived for like twenty minutes against endless bullshit
Just don't play the game online, how hard is this for people to understand? If you want your buttbuddies to help you then just kill the invaders or die trying.
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>>383633109
Because getting killed when you're that bad makes you angry.
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>>383615117
Running out of Gold/+ only restricts invasions and you can somehow still summon?
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>>383629548
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>>383633557
>>383633526
>proving me right
Thank you, desu.
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>Invading in Dark Souls 2 to have fun with the variety of builds people use
>Invade some guy multiple times as he's trying to get through the area with the same phantoms
>Figure he's playing with his friends or something
>He sends me messages after the 5th encounter, telling me to get a life and stop invading him so he can play the game

Then just play offline, you dumb fucking faggot
You can't take advantage of playing the game with your OP friends, letting them steamroll through the level, and not expect to be invaded.
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>>383615667
Souls gamea were not built around PVP. It's why DaS2 is the worst Souls game yet had great PvP.
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>>383628867
I know you listed all that in a negative manner but I miss screwing around in Darkroot so much.
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>>383633809
I'm not mad, I just don't comprehend the thought process behind this behavior. It's a waste of time for everyone involved, including the host, and especially the phantoms he summons to help him.
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>>383633809
You had no point other than 'I can't adapt, so I whine, moan, and disconnect in unfavorable conditions", when the entire purpose of these games is overcoming unfavorable conditions. Fuck off
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>>383632841

I find it hilarious how delusional someone can be. There is ZERO issue with my connection to anyone else, how fucking dense are you. I assure you whatever experience you have is probably similar to mine, except I don't actually enjoy eating shit. You seem to love it to the point of making no sense and telling other people they have "bad internet"

You know the only way PVP in souls would be real legit PVP is if there were actual servers you played on, or you literally LAN'd to someone so there's little to no delay on visuals/actions.

You're probably some fucking idiot who has 'pvp builds' and bothers to actually get into the 'pvp meta' instead of playing DS like a normal person.
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>>383633981
>Souls gamea were not built around PVP
>Bloodstains
>Messages
>Ghosts
>Summoning
>Invasions
>Covenants
>Chameleon
>Buffs that affect anyone nearby you
>Undead rapport
>NOT built around PVP
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>>383634242
Not to mention this shit outdates Dark Souls itself in FromSoft games
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>>383634043
You are implying I summon in DaS pvp. I do not. I enjoy the pvp but literally fighting the same fight every time with people having 4 times the range they should have is no fun, so i don't even try against that anymore.

>>383634083
>disconnected
How does this make you feel?
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>>383634151
> There is ZERO issue with my connection to anyone else
Is that why you spent the entire fucking post complaining about connection issues?
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>>383634398
Did you not read the reply chain before posting?
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>>383634398
>>disconnected
>How does this make you feel?

Confused as to why the person even bothered to play online in the first place. The game punishes you for that, not me. I just invade or get summoned by another host, if that's the case.
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>>383634548
>white circlet
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>>383634242

Get the fuck over it, the game is not designed straight for PvP, sorry to break it to you shitlord. Invasions have always been a sidecar to the actual PvE of Darksouls.

>bloodstains
to see where someone else died/how the died
>messages
how is this "pvp" focused ?
>summoning
this is for pve co-op, not so you can have a big gay laggy fight with 3 other red retards
>invasions
a neat side mechanic that allows you to basically become an enemy in someone elses game, the game was not designed around this you fucking idiot
>Covenants
multiple reasons they exist
>buffs that affect people
almost like co-op is something people do in DS
>some spell I didnt know existed ITS FOR PVP GUYS THATS THE ONLY POINT

I fucking hate people like you.
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>>383634404

Almost like the game inherently has these issues and has nothing to do with anyone's fucking hardware. Actually if you have shitty internet you exacerbate the problem even more.

You actually think dealing with shitty lag and horrible delay in attacks is "surmounting an obstacle" I envy your ability to eat shit and smile.
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>>383632238

misread your earlier post I'm pretty sure you nigra
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>>383635026
Who the fuck are you quoting?
Delayed hit recognition and the other bullshit you mentioned in this post >>383628568 is a result of the Netcode, you dumb faggot. Ergo, a connection issue. It's not something the game inherently has during offline gameplay unless you're grasping at straws and thinking of shitty hit/hurtboxes ala Adaptability from DS2.

You haven't a clue what you're even complaining about, but yet you still speak
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>You have been invaded by dark spi-

Chloranthy Ring +3
Ashen Estus Ring
Favor Ring +3
Dusk Crown Ring
Avelyn or Repeating Cross
Splinter Bolts
Acid Surge
Bleed infused Bandit Knife

It's no scraping spear, but it will do.
Let me break your rings.
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>>383614510
hint: play offline
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>>383630294
That's not Bongbros
Rats are a close second
Shenanigan covenants are the best.
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>>383634242
>>Undead rapport
Far more useful in PvE for defusing ambushes and stacks of enemies.

Like those crow men assholes who gather in large groups.
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>>383614510
Delicious twink babby tears.
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>>383634242
Why does anyone take pvp in this game fucking serious with a list like that
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>>383619020
>include pursuers greatshield in das3
>but not his sword
>but keep normal greatsword in pancake form
>but keep fume ultra greatsword
FuUuUuUuUuck you miyazaki
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>>383635359
>Delayed hit recognition and the other bullshit you mentioned in this post >>383628568 (You) is a result of the Netcode, you dumb faggot

Ah so the pvp has garbage netcode, that's so much better/different

>game inherently uses p2p for pvp
>game doesn't inherently have a problem

You're not even worth arguing with man, you think I know nothing ? You can't even figure out what I'm talking about you dumbshit.
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>>383635681
Summoning aside, there's not much there to say that PVP shouldn't be taken so seriously, really.
It's almost everything else about PVP that makes you want to take it less seriously, like weapon viability, lagstabs, THOSE HITBOXES, ect.
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>>383621549
>A ton of people are too shit to kill the tutorial boss
>therefore the majority who get passed are totally down for invasions

There's a reason the host has literally every advantage on top of extra fuck yous like invaders leaving bloodstains.
>>
Is Dark Souls 1 PvP still alive? I just started a new game on PC and fully expected to get twink invaded by now, but nothing so far.
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>>383635818
>Ah so the pvp has garbage netcode, that's so much better/different
It's the exact fucking thing you were complaining about in that post, idiot; just put into a simple word that encompasses the gist of it. No one said anything otherwise.

>>game inherently uses p2p for pvp
>>game doesn't inherently have a problem
Again, NO ONE SAID THIS. In fact, people constantly complain about the fucking p2p connections and the host disconnecting. Look at the fucking OP of the thread. No one will figure out what you're whining about because your babble is nonsensical pushing of goal posts.

Everyone who plays this god damn series knows of how bad the netcode can get and how bullshit it can be, but they can still play, ignore, enjoy, and/or get around that by thinking creatively. You're just not one of those people.
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>>383615117
>plays ds on console

get fucked casul. (Pic unrelated)
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>trick a host into attacking and aggrevating an NPC phantom

good feeling
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>>383633963
>MOM ANON IS PLAYING THE GAME AND I WANNA PLAY
These people are delusional
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>>383621924
I did a fair amount and never encountered too many, but I could just be lucky honestly. I see people bitch about hackers in 3 constantly and have only ever ran into two across a few hundred sessions.
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>>383618970
>Use Young White Branch
that's only temporary. You'd need a shitload of them.
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>>383632814
Just as good as winning by that point honestly.

It's not like you actually invade someone for the item drops.
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>>383636494
what
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>>383618860
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>>383629548
A seed
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>>383623057
Playing as a madman at launch was the most fun I ever had with the series.

>High Wall
>host and phantom are obviously new
>lure them both to the Pus of Man
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>>383636614
>>383621924
You guys were really lucky then, or just didn't invade as much as others. I ran into many gank squads myself but it wasn't always an uphill battle since they're overconfident from the start. Typically met them before the Pontiff fight, though; with every nearby enemy already killed and a seed of giants in effect while they literally sit near the bonfire.

>>383636727
You can buy a bunch of them from the shopkeep after some time in the game. It's fun to mess with.
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>>383636751
I always take a strut to the iron keep when I need effigies tho
>muh honor fags lining up and doing their poses
>get a css to the face
>mfw
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>>383625953
>if you can't deal with playing it how I want you to play it then dont play the game I like.

He just doesn't want to worry about PVP lol. What the fuck are you smoking?
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>>383633963
I'd wager yes.
Get DSPW and DSCM to have easy time connecting to others.
>>
Anyone else try silly invasions?
I like invading the undead settlement wearing nothing but the deprived set and weapons and just try to dick with the hosts, throwing dung pies or knives.
I usually end up dying because the moon police appear but I find it fun to see how long I can keep messing with them.
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>>383636952

>>383636614 here, truth be told most of my interactions were as a grape so maybe I just have a coloured perception of it. Like if it's me, the host and a white/gold and we get invaded I remember it as usually turning into a 2 v 2 as soon as I got the chance to fuck the host over, but that scenario could just as easily be a 3 v 1 gank.
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>>383637357
>truth be told most of my interactions were as a grape so maybe I just have a coloured perception of it
Then that's the reason why, grapists automatically search for hosts with the most people already in it, iirc. That includes phantoms AND invaders. I don't ever remember invading someone as a can of grape fanta and encountering just a host and his phantoms without another invader being present.
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>>383636304

>needs to call it netcode personally even though what we're talking about is obvious

Okey dokey good for you.

>Again, NO ONE SAID THIS.

Actually I've been arguing with someone(s) multiple times that the 'netcode' problem is on my end and not just how the game is.

You do know we're all anons and arguing with multiple people is fucking impossible sometimes.
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i think grapists were the greatest addition

my wildest invasions were as a grapist
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>>383617415
>mfw crybabies send me salty messages after getting killed during a giant seed
>mfw I use it whenever I want and there's nothing anyone can do about it
If you didn't want to get killed during invasions you shouldn't be playing online
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>>383637354

>try and have fun invasion
>become dragon and put flame fists on
>every host has a billion phantoms he hides behind while they mercilessly spam attacks at me

There's no fun to be had, you either go in with the full intent to kill the host or you get shit on sideways by 3 people at once. Or both because why would another red phantom spawn to help you fight 4 people.
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>>383614510
another feature that dark souls 2 implemented

bone of order
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>>383614510
I wish my internet wasn't shit when I first played these games. Only got invaded like once every 60 hours even if I was alive all the time. And when I did get invaded I just got lag-stabbed or lag magic beam to the face.
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>>383637915
>fag uses giant seed
>proceed to run around aggroing everything i can and running to the host
retards just dont know how to use the seed against the host
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>>383638257
This.
>Invade
>Faggot uses tree of giants and sits at the bonfire
>Start aggroing the fastest, largest, heaviest hitters in the area to bring back to OP while smacking away at him
>My face during
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>>383637354
This game is at its best when people PvP but don't take it seriously. Too many hosts act like invaders are personally out to get them and send an endless stream of phantoms out to hide behind. Too many invaders act like they have starving children at home who only eat tongues.
>Find a host who's doing the level normally, but decides to duel instead of going through the boss fog
>Blues start showing up and the host backs off while letting me deal with them
>Kill a blue so many times he gave up and partied with me and the host at the boss fog

>>383637915
>They didn't wait out the seed
Dumbasses deserve to die.
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>>383623330
L O N D O
O
N
D
O
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>laptop
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>>383638641
This holy shit, love invaders that are chill and don't just pussy about. If your invading me and you don't wanna dance instead hiding and running I'm gonna go to the fog gate or just emote in view and see how long it takes them to grow a pair.
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>>383617379

>get invaded
>dancing around waiting for him to do something, anything
>standing totally still
>uh alright
>attack one time
>parries it and nearly kills me
>hits me DURING wake up roll

what a fun video game
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>>383614510
if you hate that mechanic so much why just not go human or embered? or maybe even disconnect your internet whenever you are playing?
if you want to summon or something then do so whenever you get invaded
it can be annoying but it grants a reward, not only in-game but you will feel good for fucking up someone who wanted to """"ruin"""" your game
i thought the whole "if you want to summon help you might also get invaded" was the point since das1
retarded analogy, but if you never leave your home and never talk to people, you will never be betrayed or shitted on by them, but at the same time you will never make IRL friends
>>having irl friends
not the point, but what i mean is that while most invasions can suck, i think its worth it if i can summon help from time to time
And again, if you don't want to play online just turn off your wifi or anything beforehand

also you can get fucking invaded by NPCs offlline, that, while cheeseable, can also fuck you game at the wrong time
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>>383624616
Red eye stone you nog. Only acquired in the bad end while moving on to NG+.
Did you even play Demon's Souls?
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>>383624886

>killing someone with a bow
>ever

m8 is that even possible ? they would have to stand totally fucking still or you would need to aim 10 feet ahead of them

greatbows are garbage too, lemme just stand totally still and take a year to draw this slow as fuck gigantic pole of an arrow
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>>383628867
>dark bead
>pursuers
Magic can actually be threatening, oh the horror!
How hard can it fucking be to learn how to dodge?
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>>383639557
(not him) I use them on runners and to mess with people while I'm fog ringed. It can be a lot of fun if you just like goofing around. Although I'm not one of those bholes who plays exclusively to win so my methods are probably a lot broader range than say the average tryhard.
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>>383639683
it's never exclusively the threat of magic is trying to dodge both the pursuers and they cmw washingpole fag running at you simultaneously. There's just too many recovery frames to be safe without using some stupid shit like the dwgr.
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>>383639683
crystal catalyst + crown + torrents + pure INT build is what breaks it though
it's not how the spells work, but how powerful they can get plus how poorly magic syncs
dexfags with 16 int and ivory catalyst aren't the problem
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>>383640012
Whasn't there an item that refect dark magic? Spam dark bead enough times and they'll reflexively try to reflect crystal soul spear too.
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>>383614510
invasions were annoying as fuck 99% of the time.
>get to new area
>YOU HAVE BEEN INVADED BY DARK SPIRIT
>get sketchy and cant see them
>kill couple of enemies
>go up some gay rooftop with NPCS shooting arrows at you
>cunt is just sitting there at a chokepoint waiting for you to either get hit by huge arrows and fall to your death or attacks you when you get near melee range of the NPCS
>happens 30 times with different players
>disconnect and do it all no problems
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>>383640346
if there was they put it in the dlc like pursuers, black flame, gold and silver tracers and that molten head thing. I swear they made the dlc just for pvp trolling.
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>>383640012
>cmw washingpole fag running at you simultaneously
if you see buff, play passively
if they have pursuers cast, wait until they disappear before approaching or bait them out and sprint directly away from them, they're not gonna catch you at the range
if they cast pursuers mid-battle, backstab them if you are within the range to do so or again, sprint directly away from them
don't walk backwards while locked onto them
don't spam roll
sprint directly away from them

even if you're overleveled WP sucks in DaS1
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>>383640675
I'm lucky if get a games these days (on ps3 anyways) that's stable enough to get away without getting lag stabbed.
I enjoyed washing pole albeit it's damage is not great if you're over SL50 but around there almost all weapons without buffs or anything special are going to be 200-400 a hit. It's not a big disadvantage besides weighing more than a polearm. I think the reason people use it is because of shield glitching "dead angles" you can pull off with it and how useful that makes it with a lagged game.
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>>383614510
-ce
>>
>Get invaded
>Beat the invader's ass
>He runs away to the mobs and camps there
>Disconnect

So fun.
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>champion gundyr
I forgot how good this fight was. Bosses that are just 1v1 no fucking around are great
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>>383641171
I fail to see how WP would be very good for dead angling as weapons with horizontal range are the best for it.
On old patches that never even existed on PC WP was very powerful for elemental buffs though.
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>>383629876
2 softbans you for almost anything, 1 you can still do it, no clue about 3.
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>>383642432
it's roll+r1 (weak attack) was a horizontal slash probably why it was always used with dwgr
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>>383639172
>Chase invader with 2 butt buddies
>Get upset when he lures enemies into you
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>>383641980
I hate him. I wish he had patterns or at least a limit to his follow ups because he never fucking stops. Can't take one swing without a trade. Sipping gets a hardcoded charge punish interrupting anything he's doing. Fighting him without easymode parrying is silly.
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>>383626864
does it matter? one can still get literally upset you literal autist
>>
>>383633963
I won't excuse the guy for using phantoms but some people just want to have bloodstains and messages without forced PvP. It was one of the worst additions to DaS2 because every areas was now forced and there was no way to turn it off compared to just simply not being Human in DaS1 or not using a SoEE in DeS.
>>
>>383636775
Someone crying that another person is playing the game when they want to play is the essence of what I replied to. The person OP was invading was crying about someone else playing the game while they were playing
>>
>>383623342
it means you have no arguments and are implicitly surrendering
consider suicide any time pls
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>>383643952
>forced PvP
You really just don't get it.
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>>383644343
I do. You could turn that shit off in DeS and DaS without needing to give up bloodstains and messages, why can't you in DaS2?
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>>383644507
way of white does not turn it off it just makes it less likely
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>>383614510
>DS1
>first run as pyro
>Ready to summon Solaire and fight The golden couple
>waste 4 hours killing the 2 colosus guarding the place so Solaire doesnt get fuckd
>XXXNARUTOXSEXKEK invades every time you reach the same spot and one shot you
>you lose all the humanity you have and now you need to farm again
>>
i remember somebody invaded me in bloodborne and i just stood there using my gatling gun while he rolls everywhere. then i took my scythe out and tricked it and ran up to him while he was running to me, and the running scythe attack got him while he missed me, and then i slashed him twice and the end. my penis just goes wild when i destroy invaders like they are nothing but gnats in my way
>>
>>383644607
>does not turn it off
Which is the problem. I want to be able to turn it off like the previous games. Hell, even Bloodborne doesn't force you into invasions unless you choose.
>>
>>383644950
you could not turn it off in previous games you just hedged your bets on having that slot used for soul signs
>>
>>383614881
I only use them if the Dark Spirit run and posts up next to enemies like a dick.
>be inna Irithyll
>by myself
>get solo invaded
>get hyped
>fucker runs up to one of the veradas with like 9 ghost things
>won't move
Dick.
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>>383615075
Kek
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>>383614510
just play hollowed you magnificent pussy
>>
>>383645061
>you could not turn it off in previous games
Unless you used a Humanity, Stone of Ephemeral Eyes, or beat a boss and didn't immediately kill yourself you will never get invaded in DeS or DaS. That's what I mean by "Turning off invasions".
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>>383644507
whether you like it or not, it's a core part of the series. Particularly important for Demon's Souls because of world tendency
Having some other human player come fuck you up in an otherwise singleplayer game was frightening and exciting
hosts have gotten more and more ways to deal with invaders since then and yet they still moan about being invaded. buncha fucking pussies this fanbase turned out to be.
>>
The possibility of corrupting your save from disconnecting, albeit a small possibility, is a much bigger inconvenience than dying and having to run a few minutes to your souls.

Wonder how many times it's happened? Curious.
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>>383645395
it was never intended to be played by such an egotistical group of tryhards that play pvp specifically to grief other players
>>
jokes on you, i pirated all of them so i cant play online even though id like too.
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>>383645395
>Particularly important for Demon's Souls because of world tendency
I never fought a single fight in DeS and have a 100% complete save file. As long as you don't die in human form PWWT is extremely easy to get, and then you just munch some Emphemeral Eyes and suicide to get it to the level you need for other events. PvP has never been essential for the series, everything can be gained offline up until you reach DaS2.

>hosts have gotten more and more ways to deal with invaders since then and yet they still moan about being invaded.
Because being invaded is not fun. It always happens when you're running around at a low level with no idea of the areas and you end up fighting twinked out fuckers who have played hundreds of hours, and actually fighting in general is a lag filled mess where everyone fishes for backstabs. I don't have these lag problems in any other game available, why is it when I go into Souls games suddenly every attack is a whiffed one and I get backstabbed while the guy is still a mile ahead of me?

If you do your first playthrough without summoning it's a complete fucking nightmare, it made me put down DaS2 several times because I just couldn't get through that fucking tower with the shitty dwarves that did a third of my health but took four hits to kill because when I was dealing with them Mr. Twink with his spells and his incredibly powerful weapons would two-shot me or stun me just long enough for the dwarves to kill me. Then come the fuckers who love to sit next to enemies that take 4+ hits to kill that can two shot you or run further into crowds to waste away your resources when they lose next to nothing for dying while you lose almost everything.

It's fine when it's the first couple weeks where no one knows anything because you end up having fair fights and the only problem is the lag. Everything after that the fun drops off immensely.
>>
>complaining about invasions when you've turned them on, in a game partly known for invasions
Lmao you're like the little bitches who rolled a PvP server and went crying when someone ganked them in Stranglethorn Vale
>>
Newsflash

Playing solo in Dark Souls 3, even while embered, means your chances of being invaded are almost 0%.
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>>383646332
>not just blasting twinks off ledges using Force

You can get it immediately at Firelink in DaS1, shit never gets old.
>>
>People complain about invaders being hard to defeat
>Invaders tell them to get good
>They do so
>People complain about it being hard to defeat someone as an invader
>Players tell them to get good
>They do so
>People complain about invaders being hard to defeat
>Invaders tell them to get good
>They do so
>People complain about it being hard to defeat someone as an invader
>Players tell them to get good
>They do so

etc forever.

The problem with the advice of "get good" is that everyone can't be good at the same time. As soon as you "get good", someone else isn't good anymore.
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>>383646419
if you're playing offline, yeah
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>>383642965
Misclick?
Though there was the adventures of MR FISTER and MR SPICY
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>>383646717
>Confirmed for not knowing the game's mechanics
There's a built-in invisible stat that determines invasion priority, if you're alone while embered, it's almost 0. If you get invaded and win, it becomes 0. You absolutely have to have a phantom or use a dried finger. Each phantom you have increases your invasion priority. That's why all of the invasions are gank spanks, and that's why people who claim it's rare to run into so many phantoms are liars.
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>>383644507
Just dont ember you faggot
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>>383647643
>>383647757
Or just don't summon a phantom.
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>>383647795
You can still get invaded, just pretty unlikely
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>>383647873
It's heinously unlikely
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>>383628025
I only invade in the undead parish.
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do you think pvp would be better if it kept track of how many souls youve spent vs soul level? sort of like soul level but less retarded imo.
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