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What was your first Dragon Ball game, /v/?

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What was your first Dragon Ball game, /v/?
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Super Butoden 2
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>>383602318
Budokai, though the first one I owned was Budokai 2.
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>>383602506
This
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>>383602318
GT is not Dragon Ball, scum
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Legends, that DBZ game where is a 3vs3 that is a quick retelling of the Z story
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>>383602318
Ultimate Battle 22 for PS1.
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Quake 3 mod
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>>383603063
what a fag
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>>383602318
That one. Sold it on eBay for $80 too.
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>>383602895
It's more Dragon Ball than Super is
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>>383602318
Legacy of Goku 2

Was pretty good desu
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>>383603424
In fact I'm not talking about that piece of shit of Super, fucking faggot
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>>383603424
>>383602895
They're both Dragon Ball, you Zfags.
Also Buu's Fury, followed by the SNES games.
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>>383602318

I think the first I owned was the late port of Ultimate Battle 22 on PS1.

What a fucking pile of dog shit. I got it as a consolation because I didn't have PS2 yet, PS1 games were super cheap, and didn't know better. The damn game even had an advert for Budokai 1 (its not great now but in 2002 it was the shit) as if to taunt me. I got the reprint of Final Bout as well. Game is also just as shit.

The music is pretty good though. I miss that era of late PS1 anime licensed shit.
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OMEDO DE BATA GOHAN!
tururu-tururu-tururu
KAKAROTO

English translation never ever
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GT was much better than that super bullshit
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Legacy of Goku
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>>383603914
Nothing Super has made is as bad as the Super 17 arc.
I think both are trash, but GT is slightly worse
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>>383603914
Super is way better than GT. It's on the same level as Z and Z wasn't even that good, stop being pretentious.
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>>383603791
>English translation never ever
The people over at romhacking need to learn how to translate games for something other than the NES. Bring a hipster for 8 bit games is fine and dandy but there are games on other systems people would like to play in english.
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>>383603791
Etched in my mind permanently.
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Played Hyper Dimension on the SNES, one of the first ever games I played as a little kid at 5-6 years old
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>>383604120
>honeymoon fag actually thinks nu-DBZ is any good
lmao
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>>383604005
>Nothing Super has made is as bad as the Super 17 arc.
>this stale meme
The Super 17 arc AT LEAST had good art from time to time. The universe 6 arc only had good art during 1 fight, and it was only during the Kaioken scene and for a select few up close stills afterwards.

Superfags are delusional if they think their show with 0 art quality and 0 animation is better than GT which on occasion had both of those things.

>b-but muh super 17 slideshow, muh big bang kamehameha, muh magic pants!
Yeah, and what is literally the RoF arc, the filler arcs not in the manga, and the Universe 6 arc. Super is visually worse than GT prior to episode 95.
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>>383604702
Super has a better plot and better written episodes even though the animation quality isn't great at times. GT was terribly written in comparison.
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Was there ever a fighting game with Mr. Popo in it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9_x96KSMgo

and is he going to be in the new one whats up?
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Budokai, it's what also got me into DBZ in general.
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>>383604005
You're going to type that with a straight face after the fucking Zamas garbage?
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Legacy of Goku. I don't remember ever beating it, though I sure exploited the invincibility glitch.
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>>383604702

Dragon ball z, gt and super are shit lads.

Og Dragon ball or go home
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>>383603113
this was fun until they had to change the characters
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Super Butoden 3 for me
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>>383604948
Mr. Popo has never "officially" been playable in any game but he can be modded into a few games like Tenkaichi 3 and Xenoverse. Matter of fact, I think Staff Officer Black is the only black guy to be playable in a DB game.
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>gt is shit
>no super is
>no both are
Every fucking time.

But whatever, it was a pirated Super Butoden 2.
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Earth Special Forces, a mod for Half-Life 1. Pretty fun game until someone manages to become too strong since your Ki levels will only increase the longer you play.
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Both GT and Super are trash, but Super is slightly less trash.
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>>383603791
The funny thing is that there must be, somewhere, a prototype ROM of the cancelled USA release.

Anyway yeah, my first was SB2 as well, still my favorite DBZ game.
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Both GT and Super look bad, but Super looks slightly much worse.
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Ultimate Battle 22

It was bizzaro for me due to many reasons.

>be little Polandfag
>dad and sister went to visit my uncle in Paris
>they bought me games Medievil 2, UB22 and Tenchu
>look at DB cover
>confused and thought they bought me spme bootleg game

You see at that point Dragon Ball on polish TV was around start of Namek Saga.Seeing Goku with golden hair was just "wtf is this".

Good times.
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>>383606095
>Ultimate Battle 22
why 22? it had 22 playable characters?
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>>383606095
I enjoyed that game too and had a similar experience with Pokemon Yellow when I got it on vacation and was nowhere to be near released in Europe.
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>>383605678
Black is playable in Advance Adventure (in his battle jacket) and Dokkan Battle

Killa is also playable in Dokkan Battle though he's more or less a fodder character

You can also make a black avatar in Xenoverse, big lips included
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>>383606303
That's exactly it, and there's a code to turn it into Ultimate Battle 27. Guess how many characters does it add.
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>>383603472
That poses takes a lot of flexibility to pull off, holy shit.
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>>383602318
Budokai 1 on PS2. But I had played Super Butoden 2 on Snes on roms years before I got Budokai 1. But BT3 is still my favorite DBZ game.
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Ultimate Battle 22, then Budokai 1.

Ultimate Battle was shit man. Budokai games are still great though, especially 3.
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>>383606658
>Ultimate Battle was the shit man!
ftfy
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>Body Change
>Time Freeze
>Lullaby Punch
You tell me why the Future Warrior isn't a huge candidate for fetish porn revolved around Gender Bending, Pseudo NTR, Time Stop sex and Sleep Sex
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>>383602318
It was alright, but I played this at a time when I never bothered to get good at games that needed specific input.
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>>383606739

My favourite character was Mega Gokou
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>>383606739
UB22 was shitastic game BUT the soundtrack made it playable.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u9jF5-oHFss
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>>383606739
Not him, but it was really the worst of the retro 2D fighting games. The only good thing was the big roster, but the gameplay was bad, pretty much every other 2D DBZ fighter is better, and the graphics weren't that good either, the 2D sprites with the 3D background clashed too much.
It wasn't as bad as Final Bout at least.
Anyway, if you have nostalgia for it, I respect it, it's not a totally horrible game, but it's pretty bad.
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I might have dreamt this but I think it was some card game on JP NES?
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>>383606095
The funny thing is, UB22 looks like a pirated game compared to Shin Butoden, which was vastly superior in every way.
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>>383605827
Wrong. Dragon ball GT is all about fighting, your image alone tells me what Super is about.
That exact episode is was the final straw for how shit super is.
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>>383607070
There were various, DBZ I, II, III and Gaiden were all RPGs with card-based system. The Super Famicom one was a remake of the first 2 Famicom games.
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>>383602318
I think it was that game actually. I rented it at some random rental shop back in ye olde days. GT hadn't even aired on TV yet.

>Just finished DBZ for the first time last night
>Watching Battle of Gods right now
I really hate that I waited so long to actually get into this franchise.
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>>383607070
You are probably thinking of the GBC game "Legendary Super Warriors".

Iunno why I loved it so much as a kid. It was pretty shit looking back on it.
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>>383607206
I'll take SOL DBS episode over any GT shit.
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>>383607142
Shin Butoden was such a wasted potential.
Yes, it's better than UB22, but it fails to exceed Super Butoden 2 or even SB3.
The main problem is that stages are too small, Butoden games need broad stages, that's why the split screen mechanic exists, and also the controls are generally very weird, not nearly as tight as SB2 and 3.
I love the VS screen character profiles though.
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a true dragon ball z game. vrvs of course.
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>>383607295
Subbed or dubbed, friend.
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>>383604120
>Z wan't even that good
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That ps1 that played like a proto Budokai Tenkaichi.

You beat up your enemy to fill a bar, and when it was full it would cut to a cutscene where you finally hurt the opponent, then repeat.
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>Dragon Ball Of Final Boat
English is not my first language, but what? Get your shit together, japs.
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>>383607576
Legends, it's also on Saturn. Probably the best of the 32-bit DBZ games.
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>>383607521
Why, Kai dubbed of course.
Not of a fan of nu-young gohan and frieza voice but whatever

Battle of Gods is excellent so far. Almost at the end now.
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>>383607538
He's rigth
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>>383607665
You make me sick.
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>>383605397
my nigger
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>>383607665

Can you even say you love DBZ unless you've watched all episodes subbed and screamed along with each character to feel the intensity?
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Hyper Dimension was my first one.
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>>383607295
>Watching Battle of Trash
It's shit and non canon, like Super.
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>>383605397
Dragon Ball "Z" is "OG" Dragon Ball you dunce. They retitled the anime, but the manga was Dragon Ball from the moment Goku meets Bulma to the epilogue with Uub.
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>>383607206
That episode was the final straw for you? I get it if you think it's bullshit that Roshi is stronger than Tien, but that wasn't even the worst filler episode for Super.
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>>383602318
I've never played a Dragon Ball game
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>>383607402
Yeah, it was an awkward transition from the SNES/Genesis to the PS1/Saturn, but the potential was there. Idainaru Dragon Ball Densetsu was a game my godbrother imported and it looked interesting. I played it a few years later and it was...okay. The concept was cool, at least.
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>>383608124
Tien was my favorite non saiyan in the series, i was not happy. Everything from that shit arc built up to that shit moment and i'm done with it.
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>>383608124
>>383608267
Couple that with some filler bitch and those bald crane school trainies bumping into walls in bad animation glowing photoshop purple, jesus christ what a fucking travesty.
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>>383602318

Some random flash game on the original DBZ website. This was before the Androids arc got dubbed.
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>>383602318
Final bout, ultimate battle 22 and dragon ball Z legends. And the remake of the two rpg/card games in the snes, but it was in moonrunes so i never even reached raditz.

Final bout and ultimate battle were kinda shite, but legends was a ton of fun (besides the weird controls).

>>383603523
Legacy of goku 2 and buu's fury are a ton of fun (though buu's fury is way too easy).

Its amazing how they improved the game from legacy of goku 1 to 2.
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>>383602318
That japanese 2d adventure turn based RPG one. The one everyone played
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>>383603125
Don't you ever reply to me again you double nigger.
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Dragon Power on NES
it's a pair of panties flipped upside down and called a sandwich
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>>383608006
Battle of gods was great fuck you
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>>383602318
Pic related, in 2016. Liked it.
I started watching DB seven years prior, but avoided the games because I heard a lot of them were shit.
I got really hyped for Ultimate Tenkaichi, but that was a bummer too.
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>>383609280
>when 5 pure hearted saiyans pray together you can make a super saiyan god as strong as the god of destruction!
Surely you jest.
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>>383609280
RoF was better.
Wrath of the Dragon was better.
Fusion Reborn was better
Second coming was better
Broly 1 was better
BIG GETE STAR was better
Cooler 1 was better
Slug was better
Tree of Might was better
Dead Zone was better
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Played: that Mega Drive fighting game in japanese with an adapter
Owned: Legends/The Legend for the Saturn
Pirated: Butouden 1
Favorite: DB Advanced Adventure
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What are the must play Dragon Ball games?
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>>383609280
Nah. The fight with bills was weak and the movie spent too much damn time on him and whis being idiots who eat a lot.

>>383609957
not sure exactly on MUST PLAY, but:
legacy of goku 2 and buu's fury are pretty fun
budokai 3 and budokai tenkaichi 3 are solid picks
that rpg on the ds was neat
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>>383609608
>almost every major character in the DB franchise has a name that's a play on a type of food or object
>implying Big Gete isn't a play on Spaghetti
This whole franchise has been about food
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>>383602318
I played a Dragonball game on the PS1 with my cousing (it was his)

My first self owned DBZ Game was
Budokai 2 on Gamecube.
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>>383610190
>This whole franchise has been about food
More like about silly names in general. All pure saiyans are vegetables, bulma's family is all underwear, the Piccolo army were all instruments, Ginyu Force are dairy products, and so on.
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>>383610382
What's Jace supposed to be, for dairy?
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>>383610498
Cheese.
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>>383610498
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who else hyperdimension?
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>>383610580
>>383610589
And this whole time i thought he was Juice. huh.
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>>383608006
Its not? I thought it was canon?
Someone said to watch BoG and then skip the first 28 eps of Super or something cause it was a recap.

Or am I mixing it up with RoF
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>>383610190
>>383610498
I saw some copypasta on /a/ saying that Jiren and the pride troopers are named after cooking materials, and because Saiyans are vegetables it's supposed to be like a cat and mouse thing.

I don't know if it's true, but the thought is really cool.
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>>383610726
So did Chi-Chi.
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best dbz game ever made coming through
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>>383604927
Both aren't good. Both GT and Super have problems with delivering and animation.
GT at least had a plot with the Baby that actually made sense with the saiyan's story with some alien being a parisite and using other people's power until they fucked in the end with bad decisions and a very bad final fight. Super 17 arc is stupid. Dragons arc was a good idea with terrible execution, terrible designs, bad fights but with a good ending to the series(final 2 episodes)
BoG by introducing the gods of destruction they took out every possibility of building a damn arc with some enemy where Goku and co needs to beat and now things can be thought of "Zeno can erase things in the end" or "Beerus can hakai" or "Whis can rewind time for minutes". When Black arc happened it seemed things were getting back to what Z was, with a strong enemy only Goku and co could defeat, but nope, Gods now do the shit. Worse was how Evil Goku was just an Evil Goku when it could have been an interesting concept. And later plotholes and timeholes happens to help all of that nonsense.
Zeno was a mistake and is annoying kid. Angels are just there, like neutral things overlooking things. There was no need for the 12 or 18 universe thing. ToPower happened too soon with no development with those universes to even care about them.
To make things worse they made it clear that Goku and Vegeta can't beat Beerus soon, so not even the angels they can't touch, so we are going around with silly designs in a battle royal tournament that is pretty obvious that in the end everything will go back to normal, except some GoDs will be replaced by others like Freeza
Oh yeah, Freeza is back AGAIN and is more interesting to look for in this tournament than likes of Vegeta.
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>>383610829
Niggas are fucking with you.
BoG is/was canon, it was written by Toriyama. However DBS rewrites it slightly and changes the area it takes place in. In the DBS version the anime gave Red Goku healing powers and infinite strength, the manga just kinda retells the movie but on a boat instead of Bulma's house.

It's canon, don't get confused.
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>>383610982
>terrible designs
>Nova, Eis, and Syn
>terrible designs
Superbitches need top get nuked.
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>>383602318
one of those fucking GBA rpgs. those games were awesome, holy fuck
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Legendary Super Warriors on GBC. My dad bought me a French copy for it while we were on holiday.
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>>383610982
>And later plotholes and timeholes happens to help all of that nonsense.
Reminder that the manga doesn't have any plotholes. Everything confusing about Super literally comes from the anime only. I'm pretty sure in like one of the first few pages on the Black arc, it's immediately explained how time travel works because the anime just assumes people already know even though there's a surprising number of "hardcore fans" that don't understand it at all.

fuck the anime
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>>383610982
GT is also the definition of wasted potential.
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>>383611007
Cool
So I totally can skip the retelling?

Also RoF is canon too, right?
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>>383602318
Owned? Budokai Tenkaichi 3

Played? My friend's copy of Legacy of Goku
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>>383611279
Yeah, skip to episode 28 like you were normally going to do.
Personally I would recommend just skipping all the way up until the Goku Black Arc(around the 50s), because the Universe6 arc in the anime literally looks worse than GT. The first 3 arcs of Super are the biggest wastes of time on the planet.
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>>383608064

No one cares kid. "Z" is still considered a distinct series from "OG" (fucking autist) by everyone (in fact Z is far more popular than OG in the west) and the two halves are different enough to be judged separately.

But still, I'll reword it for you

Raditz arc is when dragon ball jumped the shark and went to shit.
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>>383610648
>no future Trunks
Fuck. Only missing him and 18. Otherwise game is great and looks great

>>383610829
More like, watch BoG and RoF, start Super for U6 vs 7 tournament(ep28 or something).
Super does change some things from the movies, like Goku vs Beerus goes forever and is a chore to watch until the last 2 episodes of that fight, Beerus never mentions that there are more universes out there like he said in BoG movie, Ginyu is back in Super and Piccolo dies saving Gohan again from Freeza. RoF's Super arc has a very bad animation like Goku vs Freeza
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>>383611582
Not him, but that's just Toei being stupid and everyone going with it. The manga was always Dragon Ball and your little snide remark only exposes you as an anime-only faggot.
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>>383602318
Budokai 1
If it weren't for the dope cutscenes I don't think I would have gotten into DB at all.
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>>383611552
The whole of GT anination shit all over the whole of super, get your eyes checked.
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>>383612060
t. pedro
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This. It was very rpg, but i liked it.
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>>383606824
That game had some of the best what if scenarios in the franchise.

>Frieza obtains immortality and battles Perfect Cell
>Vegeta becoming SSJ on Namek
>Piccolo fuses with King Piccolo and uses the Mafuba to defeat Buu
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>>383612060
What? I said that Super is worse than GT. Are you arguing or agreeing?
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>>383612187
>m-muh pedro
Everytime, toeicuck.
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>>383612263
Prove me wrong, pedro.
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>>383612187
He's not wrong. GT was on a budget, but due to still being traditionally animated, they had to be clever with cutting corners. And I know someone's gonna post the examples of GT's bad animation, that still doesn't dispute my point.
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>>383612261
>because the Universe6 arc in the anime literally looks worse than GT.
You seem to imply that only U6 looks worse, though i'll admit i enjoy the Hit fight a lot.
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>>383611090
Those 3 are alright, but that's 3 IN 7.
I never said I am a Superfag. I dislike many things. There is too much reused shit from previous stuff in the franchise be GT, movies and even damn fan things from the 2000s like different colored Freezas and Super Saiyan haireds(yes there was a blue back then).

>>383611263
Why talking about the manga when that arc isn't over yet?
The manga is better though, but fuck those bullshits about fusion. Same happened with GT, then Super and now super's manga.
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Why were there so many decent DB games? What happened to all of them?
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>>383612381
And even then it's shit. Take into account the experience of the teams and it's even worse how bad it is.
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>>383602318
To think that Goku was one of Steve Blum's early voice works in this game
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>>383612408
That only leaves the three fat dragon quest inspired monster designs and trap shenron, they weren't so bad.
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>>383612328
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>>383611856
FLY THE BIRD
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>>383612384
What I tried to imply was that he should skip Uni6, because it's literally worse than GT in every conceivable way. Even the black arc had moments better than GT, although it was still probably equally as bad on average.
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>>383612497
I never said it wasn't, just that they were clever in hiding their shortcuts. Super's real issue is the visual style and the fact that they air it on a morning timeslot. Toei has never been good with Dragon Ball, starting with 'Z'. Z had a lot of errors that I noticed even as a child.
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>>383612408
>but fuck those bullshits about fusion
This, it's stupid and I don't think it's even canon. People say that's how it always was, but to my memory Gotenks didn't defuse because of SSJ3, he lost SSJ3 and then eventually defused. GT only did that power thing because Gogeta had gains beyond comprehension and ending the fight with him instakilling an enemy doesn't work for an episodic anime.
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>>383602318
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>>383611856
Manga/anime in the west is/was viewed as a kids thing, like cartoons. In Japan is all ages, they don't give much a fuck, like playing videogames casually in subways.
For the fans in the west they need to change the name for viewers or readers to know there is a series about a part where those characters are in their youth and another one where they are adults.
In short, japan change names through generations for the west and think the west are a bunch of retards

DB for example goes from a random kid with a tail beating people up just because in adventures, to "Z" with screaming, auras, huge-ass explosions, transformations, etc. Naruto goes from ninjas using shurikens, to Shippuuden with energy balls, giants beasts everywhere, clones and gods.
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>>383612497
>Take into account the experience of the teams
I'm pretty sure GT had new teams. It had some of the same ones, but I don't think it had all of the same ones.
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>>383604948
>can handle Super Saiyan kids
>can't handle some Garlic faggots with a shiny red fishing net
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>>383604186
if... translation when?
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>>383611552
>>383611583
Gotcha
Just finished BoG
Beerus is based. I hope his japanese VA is better than this based english one.

Watching Super in JP is gonna take some serious getting used to.

>Ginyu is back
Who the hell asked for that?
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>>383611552
Don't skip the Universe 6 arc like this guy says.

It introduces characters and things you'll need to know in the later arcs.
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>>383612729
not that anon but what is this?
Obviously comparing 2 versions of the last episode of the anime with one being more polished but where did it come from
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>>383613026

>tfw there will never be a full remake of legacy of goku 1 and 2 and Buu's Fury all combined into one game that uses the same engine and refined mechanics of Buu's Fury

That's a weird dream game I've always wanted. I love Legacy of Goku 2 and Buu's, shame 1 was such shit and never got proper treatment
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Xenoverse.

I didn't even get into Dragon Ball til last year. Got hyped for Resurrection F despite never having watched DB, so I marathoned it then went to see it in a cinema with a friend.
I regret never watching it as a teenager, it's fun as fuck.
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>>383613229
Watch the Future Trunks Special version of RoF. It has Trunks explaining to the viewers the history of DB a little bit. Mainly the Namek arc. It's great and has remastered Goku vs Frieza.
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I was given Budokai 2 rented when I first got by PS2 as a kid.
Had no clue what to do, had no clue what the fuck dragonball was, I just remember I stood there in the game and let whoever I was fighting me beat me up until they sent you flying across the water to another island, which I thought was a cool looking animation.

Aside from that I played Revenge of King Piccolo on the Wii, but I don't think I ever got further than TaoPaiPai
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>>383613229
>>383613246
Read the manga version of the Universe 6 arc. The anime version is not worth it.

Note that the only difference is in the manga Goku uses SSJB to "beat" Hit, in the anime Goku uses SSJBKaioken to "beat" Hit. Or just skip to their fight in the anime, the other figths are a waste of time and it's impossible to argue otherwise.
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>>383612870
No they weren't. Flipping animations 3 different ways isn't clever reusing of an animation. Neither is static background characters or even static foreground characters. It's the same horseshit as Super has going on but isn't as noticeable due to painted backgrounds and their experience in using layering.
The visual style of Super has not been a problem for a long time and only was because they pulled a bunch of teams working on huge stints with rounder styles that were able to go off-model more often such as OP.
Z had it's issues because they were willing to sacrifice quality to save money by hiring cheap shitters like Uchiyama.
>>383613164
It had a majority of returning teams. Most new teams worked on the show sparingly or even just once (like the ep in hell with the derp cell)
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>>383613261
That webm is showing how the last episode reused animation from previous episodes.
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>>383613418
I don't really need a refresher since I just marathoned all of Z, but I downloaded the director's cut edition so maybe that's the one?

>>383613367
How do you like Xenoverse?
I'm fucking dying to play a DB game right now but everyone said Xenoverse 1 and 2 were total trash during the summer sales.
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>>383602318
Hyper Dimension I think
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>>383613261
Lol.
That's like 5 different episodes using all the same animation.
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>>383613804
>I don't really need a refresher since I just marathoned all of Z,
>He doesn't want to see what Goku vs Frieza would look like if it had good animation
wow, and I almost didn't mind that you were a tripfag, neck yourself.

>How do you like Xenoverse?
Either pirate XV2, emulate Budokai3 and Tenkaichi 3, or wait till FighterZ comes out.
Also Legacy of Goku games emulated are good.
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>>383613159
It was named Z in Japan, too or at least the adaption of the timeskip. Same with Shippuden. It's just Toei being stupid (Dragon Ball) and Pierrot (Naruto) being just as dumb, especially with that awful filler hell.
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>>383613804
It's not worth it to buy Xenoverse 1 if you can just get 2 since they're both familiar, with XV2 fixing some stuff.

XV is ... alright. Kinda padded with sidequests where it's basically random fights instead of actually doing all the single occurences that happened in the actual story.
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>>383614026
>>383613640
ah I see thanks, I assumed it was some early leak or something some huehue had gotten
but this is arguably worse
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>>383607206
>Dragon ball GT is all about fighting

What the fuck? GT is arguably better than most of DBZ because it at least tried to go back to fun and goofy adventuring which was at the core of the og DB, just this time in space, instead of just powering up and yelling for 20 episodes straight and then resolving the fight with a beam. The only good part of DBZ was the Namek arc, everything afterwards was trash.
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Would you consider the Future Warrior a mary sue?
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>>383613586
I reiterate: mentioning said examples of reused animation doesn't dispute my point. At least you realize that Z was just as bad if not worse with how they copped out with the animation.
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>>383602318
I remember seeing an ad with this in some old DBZ magazine I got years ago, kind of tempted to try it out.
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>>383613541
Alright so watch Battle of Gods, Return of Frieza, read the manga for Universe 6 or whatever it is, then start watching at epsiode 50?
Man thats's still a lot of epsiodes to catch up on. Are there manga versions of anything else so can cut down on this or not worth it?
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>>383613804
>How do you like Xenoverse?
I really liked it. The only other DB games I've played apart from it are Budokai 1 HD and Dragon Ball Fusions on 3DS, but I enjoyed Xenoverse a lot. I've only played the first though.
If I had to put it down as a list:
Pros- A shit ton of fan service. Customisation is pretty great, you can basically learn any move you'd want. A lot of content, both main story and side missions.
Cons- At higher difficulties AI gets spammy and has insane reaction times, meaning you have to get good at cheesing stuff with particular moves. Flying around feels kinda weird if you want to do precise stuff. Prepare to grind a LOT if you want certain things like moves and stuff.

tl;dr- Get it if it's like $10 or under. I put like 25 hours into it and still feel like I could go back and spend another 5-10 just finishing up stuff or getting more moves.
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>>383614175
>>383614213
I guess I'll just pirate XV2 to get my fix until based FIghter Z comes out.
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>>383614324
Oh and I forgot to add that even after it stopped being as goofy and turned into more "serious business" like DBZ tried to, it actually brought something interesting to the table by showing that the fucking dragon balls themselves are not just free way out of literally anything and that there are consequences to Goku's idiocy that led to the entire mess in the first place.
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>>383614324
That's only like a third of GT. The rest is Baby, Super 17, and the Dragons.
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>>383614398
Just watch the anime version of Universe 6. It's not even that long. The arc is like less than 13 episodes.
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>>383614576
Yes, I agree but see >>383614505 It was still more interesting than anything DBZ tried to do in my opinion. Obviously at that point a lot of it was pretty shit but there were some neat points that GT made.
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>>383612603
For you, that is why "opinions".
That arc for me was such a disappointment after that hype with the black dragon. Almost every battle had to be bad(OH LOOK SEAGULL IS SHOWING WEAKPOINT!!! ATTACK SMALL GOKU!!!) except for the last 3.
And Pan had to be there as the annoying brat she was. Why the hell Pan was that bad? She could be like a mix of Videl and Gohan personality, but she was another angry Chichi bitching every damn time and getting others into problems

>>383613025
I could accept Potara having a limit in time could be 30 minutes or 1 hour, but not a stable thing? Having a power limit or wasting to much ki = to defusing? No.
Potara was supposed to be a mix of both powers in a stable way, not like dancing where the limitations in size and powerlevel that need to be in the same level when dancing were the main rules as the 30 minutes that for Gotenks was forever.
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>>383614576
The first four Dragons were fairly MotD-ish with how goofy they were. Only with Nova did the shift occur. Black Shenron with his cigar was pretty goofy as well.
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>>383614324
I never get people like you, you guys claim that you like Dragonball for the adventure and goofyness and non beam spam fight, but then you claim that Z is trash beyond Saiyan and Namek saga, which is nearly eveything you hate, and you shit on the Buu Saga which is pretty much a complete return to form of Dragonball, more OG Dragonball than anything after the King Piccolo Saga started.
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>>383614389
Hell no, faggot. Z was way better about that kinda shit. There's a smartness to using speedlines in place of actual arms or characters moving. It implies a lot of things and leaves a lot up to the imagination. It's lazy but it's certainly not boring like ki spam in Super or fucking anything in GT. The lowest Z got was when they would extend dull moments of nothing. It made Gohan vs Cell pretty awful because Cell spent too much time talking shit before getting dicked.
And did more than just mention them. They way they were done is the problem. Every anime is going to reuse animation at some point to cut cost.
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>>383614582
>Just watch the anime version of Universe 6.
Worst advice in the world.

>>383614398
BoG > RoF > Episode38-41(Goku vs Hit) > Episode 46-67(Goku Black Arc) > Episode 95+

Read the manga version of Uni6 up until the Goku vs Hit fight, then watch the anime version.
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>>383602318
Ultimate battle 22
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>GTfags
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>>383603287

remember reading about GT Final Bout being pretty rare until it was reprinted.

no clue about the other japanese titles.
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>>383614903
>Hang in there, Kakarot. You are #1
>Vegeta's initial speech to the people of earth
>That music playing
>mfw
Buu Arc was extremely long and had some very painful moments (anything with Gotenks) but man it had some god tier moments too.
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>>383615073
>yamchafag
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>>383614903
A lot of Namek episodes focused on fucking Krillin, Gohan and Bulma who were literal nobodies back then and it made for interesting story because they were surrounded by really powerful ayyliens. Buu saga definitely returned some of the humor but also introduced SSJ3, fusions and focused a lot on things like spirit bomb. The episodes with Hercules and Buu were really nice but I can't say that's enough to save the series at this point.

When Buu killed everyone on the Earth nobody gave a fuck at that point because loldragonballz. Nobody cared about the balls at that point because you could gather them in 3 days with instant transmission and new tech.
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>>383614903
What is it with Goku and biting people?
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>>383614903
>you shit on the Buu Saga which is pretty much a complete return to form of Dragonball
>Dancing to make you stronger
>Jewelry to make you stronger
>WAHOO look at this long hair!
>Woah dad, I got long hair now too!
>Woah dad, my hair is black because I sat around for 25 hours doing literally nothing! I'm so stronk now!
>Bubblegum man with 4 different forms!
>lol I know he's a super stronko enemy, but let's fight him 1 on 1! that makes sense, eh vegata?
No, Buu saga was nothing like OG DB.
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>>383603523

Legacy of Goku was dope but there was this puzzle that required you to pull some colored power switches in a mountain level and there was literally no key or hint as to how to do it. Worst part was that the door that opened was in a completely different area so if you fucked up the combination you had to go back a bunch of stages to reach the switches again
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>>383614921
>Hell no, faggot. Z was way better about that kinda shit
It wasn't. Your nostalgia for Z clouds your better judgement. There were plenty of errors and mistakes, like Oozaru Gohan having claws or black nails but then having normal nails in the next shot or Vegeta having his armor and then showing him put it on. When they did have a good scene with animation, it was reused and flipped upside down (Vegeta/Zarbon). And the worst offender was when Goku and Gohan were Super Saiyan throughout. The quality from when it first appeared compared to when they were waiting for the Cell Games was baffling.
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>>383615196
Get your eyes checked, anon. That's clearly long-hair Goku.
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>>383613229
Fuck off tripshit.
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>>383615073
>yamcha fag thinks he has an opinion
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>mfw no one from super gets into DBFZ
KEK
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>>383615073
Yamcha literally can't even win a game of rock, paper, scissors.

>>383615239
Spirit bomb was only mentioned once and took 2 episodes to charge in the entire Buu saga. SSJ3 didn't get much focus cause only 2 people could do it and it didn't last long. Plus everyone was freaking the fuck out when earth blew up, especially since they were sure they couldn't win. The only time they went "lol don't worry guise we have the dragon balls" is when they were teaching Goten and Trunks fusion.
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>>383615362
No this is.
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>>383603472
God, this game was such shit, but still so awesome to some 8 year old kid who found emulation.
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>>383606462
5?
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>>383615239
>When Buu killed everyone on the Earth nobody gave a fuck at that point because loldragonballz.
That was because Buu couldn't sense energy so as long as he didn't nuke the planet everyone on Kami's lookout was fine.
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>>383615280
Except for the part where I don't have nostalgia for the anime. I didn't watch it until I went back to it after Kai came out. Since then I have watched it three different times once fully jap, once dubbed with jap ost, and once dubbed with eng ost.
Most of those errors really don't matter to the overall quality of an episode and is more of a matter with in-universe consistency rather than artistic consistency.
>The quality from when it first appeared compared to when they were waiting for the Cell Games was baffling
Welcome to Uchiyama. Hope you enjoyed it.
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>>383613229
>Ginyu
He was still alive as a frog. RoF movie forgot about that, or there was no time. Super got him back inside of someone else body that Freeza beat the shit out when training for 4 months and for some reason got a massive power up that made him stronger than Piccolo. Ginyu in the end was killed by Vegeta with the joke "you should have stayed a frog"

>>383613541
>Hit, the assassin
>couldn't use assassin moves, the point of his character,
>just fought for a tiny bit when Goku asks for all out battle when both tired
>ToPower
>tournament doesn't allow kills
>Hit, the assassin for tournaments of no kills
Great job
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>>383615572
Yes.

>SSJ3 Goku
>Gogeta
>Kid Goku
>Roshi
>Satan
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>>383615464
The characters may have cared but nobody watching the series did. I felt there was no tension left in the show. The focus on fusions was enormous and like someone else mentioned we got the super power up with Mystic Gohan for free. Compare that to all the training young Goku and Krillin had to do in OG DB and you'll see why it's so much worse.

The power creep in the series made dragon balls obsolete and GT made them relevant again which was one of the best things it did to the series.

Finally, OG DB had a much bigger cast of relevant characters while in DBZ it got reduced to only the few most powerful people, all of whom were aliens, monsters or gods.
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>>383615760
>frieza smiling for the photo
was he a good guy all along?
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>>383615818
>OG DB had a much bigger cast of relevant characters while in DBZ
This is a shitty meme.

DB:
>Goku
>Bulma
That's fucking it. Krillin had some moments BEFORE the first time skip. Yamcha never had any moments, and Tien was an enemy until he fought against Piccolo for like 2 pages and got shrekd. Roshi fought in the tournaments twice, other than that it was literally nothing.

DBZ:
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan
>Krillin
>Piccolo
>Gotenks
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>>383615818
>The characters may have cared but nobody watching the series did.
That's a stupid thing I say when you don't speak for everybody. I was tense as hell. Sure I knew everyone could get wished back but the threat to Dende was still there and I was worried how the characters would take it.

And yeah the whole arc was fusion. Buu fused with people so the characters did the same thing. I'm not arguing if DB or GT was better or worse and don't care to argue that, but some of the stuff you're saying is straight up silly and/or straight up wrong.

On top of that, the entirety of the Buu Saga had every single character helping. Even Mr. Popo managed to save the day in his own way. Even the fucking dog helped.
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>>383615635
>Most of those errors really don't matter to the overall quality of an episode
Yes, they do. If they can't take the time to address those errors, it's bad on their part. Yes, that can ruin an episode, yet I'll wager that those errors would be an issue if they were in GT instead.
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>>383605417
Shit, it was still fun after they changed the characters. It was easy to download the original models and put them back in anyway.

Had way more fun with bid for power than esf at least.
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>>383602318
I got that one

what a piece of shit it was
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>>383602318
My brother and I were obsessed with this game despite its obvious flaws. But it was fucking Dragon Ball.
So we created seperated characters and took turns in farming. Man, it was fun as fuck, because the hit combo Goku and Vegeta had, became after abusing it literally onehits on CPU enemies.
It was the only Dragon Ball game I've ever played in which leveling and training made your character a literal monster and gave you that feel. It was fun as fuck to avoid each others hit combos. We were around lvl 85-89 and neighborhood kids wouldn't play against us anymore.
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DB=Z>GT>>>>>>Super

Deal with it fags
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>>383616104
Goku, Bulma, Krillin, Roshi, Yamcha, Oolong, Puar, Lunch, Tenshinhan and Yajirobe.

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they weren't important or had a small role.
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>>383615267
Or you could focus on the actual content and see how similar it is.
>has a comedic villan again
>actually has creative moves and tactics (Pretty much the only really creative move since the world martial arts tournament was Krillins Kienzan)
>villan has creative power (literally fucking Boss Rabbit from Dragonball)
>Goten and Trunks is basically a return to kid Goku
>Fusion Dancing isn't out of place at all considering in Dragonball Goku literally acted like a monkey in one move to get
>you act as though jewerly to make you stronger is out of place when Dragonball had water to make you stronger

And Satan is as gag as we get after early Dragonball. Hell Satan could be Dr.Slump character thats how early Dragonball he is.
I could go on but this is enough
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>be me, 6
>seen only vhs tapes of goku vs frieza
>boot this up
>learn the entire story from it
>get internet 2 years later
>tfw
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I'm too used to the Jap VA's that I can't watch DB stuff in English dub, be either animated or in games.
Towa, Vados voices give me ultimate boner.
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>>383616439
DB>Super=Buu Z>rest of Z>GT
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>>383616651
Nvm gt and super's positions, but
>buu Z>rest of Z
You're retarded.
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>>383616513
>they weren't important or had a small role.
That's the fucking point, they were either irrelevant or had an extremely small roll. And no matter how much you wanna say "Goku time, le vegeta and goku the show." Z has more relevant characters who had more manga-time and screen time.

>Goku
>Gohan
>Goten
>Gotenks
>Vegeta
>F. Trunks
>Kid Trunks
>Gotenks
>Vegito
>Piccolo
>Tien
>King Kai
>Bulma

And those are relevant heroes, Z had more villains and even Dabura lasted longer than most DB villains. And that's not including filler scenes or Movies, because with just the movies added, Goku, Krillin, Piccolo, and Trunks both spike up drastically.
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>>383616104
I meant the good and bad guys alike. The red ribbon, Pilaf squad etc were all relevant.

>>383616237
You definitely have a point but I hardly felt they were relevant. They got their moment or two but all in all they were still completely eclipsed by just a few characters. That's just how I remember it so we can agree to disagree cause I sure as hell don't remember everything that happened so maybe I'm really wrong on some points.

Just want to note that I think all the arcs had some good moments. I still remember that scene when Trunks was remembering how Cell put him into a cocoon, even the finale of Gohan vs Cell, while obviously a shitty beam fight, had top execution. I just think that those moments do not compensate for all the shit that got introduced or the things that got cut or pushed aside.
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>>383615920
Someone said "Cheese!" and he just plays along because he's not a cunt
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I want to like Super, but it's so shitty.
Why is Goku such a retard?
Blue, as a transformation, sucks ass.
Why is there no sense of danger, at all?
Even the erasion of a whole universe had no fucking impact. It's retarded. Why didn't they fill it with likable characters so I get emotionally involved? Has Toriyama gone senile?
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>>383616439
>18 and Videl
Girls don't get any better than that

>>383616630
Opposite for me.
>Just starting RoF now
>Gonna be my last DB experience in english
So sad
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>>383616834
>That's the fucking point, they were either irrelevant or had an extremely small roll.
So you skimmed through Dragon Ball. That's all you had to say.
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>>383616520
>Goten and Trunks is basically a return to kid Goku
Except they are bratty and when they become relevant characters(Gotenks) they turn into an annoying douche who doesn't listen to anyone. They are nothing like Kid Goku.
>Goku literally acted like a monkey in one move to get
And in Z Gohan LITERALLY acts like a fucking ape because he LITERALLY transforms into one. Acting like a monkey to win a fight or whatever the fuck isn't the same as dancing and fusing bodies to get a power boost.
>you act as though jewerly to make you stronger is out of place when Dragonball had water to make you stronger
I would agree with this one, but as shitty as this reasoning may be, water is actually good for you and causes benefits, Jewelry does not increase your health aside from self-confidence, which clearly wasn't something the characters were getting from wearing the earrings.
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So i'm rewatching the Hell 17 arc here, besides the blatant waste of 17 as a character, what's so bad about it?
Goku is playing with Cell and freeza without even going Super Saiyan.
I haven't gotten to their fusion yet.
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>>383615760
Japanese version also had cutscenes that were taken out in the localized versions for some reason.
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>>383617020
shut the fuck up onsokumaru
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>>383617030
No I read it in both Japanese and in English, and I saw the anime in both JAP and ENG dubs. Fuck out of here.

DBZ had more relevant characters, and you cannot prove me wrong.
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>>383617113
>Jewelry does not increase your health aside
Play an RPG sometime.
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this baby.
actual played the game before the show aired in my country.
got me so pumped up for the show dragon ball z was the shit back then.
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>>383616740
I didnt like most of Z it was for niggers
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>>383617236
>I read it
>DBZ
If you say so.
>and you cannot prove me wrong
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Krillin
>Gohan
>Piccolo
>Trunks
>Goten
>Buu
Eight vs. Ten. Your move.
And I'm going by your logic here with calling the timeskip Z.
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>>383617113
So your complaint isnt the tone or method but simply that magic is being used?
That's pretty silly. The idea of fusion dance isn't something that would be out of place at Dragonball, unlike somewhere in the Cell Saga where there would never be anything like doing a silly ballerina dance to fuse with someone and get significantly stronger. It's tone is pure Dragonball.

And regarding Gotenks, no they're not a 1:1 copy of Kid Goku in terms of personality, but they're the first time since Kid Goku that you see anyone playing or having fun with the enemy during a fight and using moves like the ghost kamikaze. I guess you can argue Goku kinda did earlier with Buu and Babidi's minions.
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>>383617143
>base kid Goku playing around with fucking Freeza and Cell
>kid goku that was weaker than adult and couldn't maintain powers long, but for some silly reason base kid Goku is immortal and stronger than Vegeta and co
>Super 17 rapes everyone, including MUub that was supposed to be much stronger than a SSJ3 but is down the same way as Goten, Trunks, Gohan, while Vegeta just hangs up more time
>random SSJ Goku fights Super 17 like nothing for a while
>SSJ4 Goku using ki blasts when it was obvious Super 17 was absorbing ki

The only thing good was the way how Super 17 was defeated
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>>383602318
The one on the genesis, which I emulated.
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>>383617650
You forgot:
>Future Trunks
>Gotenks
>Vegito
As they hold major fights and Trunks was the entire reason an entire arc started.
>Bulma
Don't forget about literally the 2 Arc in DBZ. The one where it's Bulma, Gohan, and Krillin.
Should I move onto villains? Relevant villains:
>Vegeta
>Ginyu
>Frieza
>17
>18
>Cell
>6 forms of Majin Buu
Oh and last but not least:
>Uub
Goku throws away his life just to train him because he's Kid Buu incarnate.
>inb4 he was implied to be relevant but we don't see it so it doesn't count

Also this:
>calling the timeskip Z
>I'm a manga man myself, it's all DB to me
Shitty mentality needs to be gassed. You're the one who said OG DB has more relevant characters than DBZ Or at least the OP did, idk who the fuck you are.
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>>383617976
>but they're the first time since Kid Goku that you see anyone playing or having fun with the enemy during a fight
Which Kid Goku fights did this?
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>>383618020
>>base kid Goku playing around with fucking Freeza and Cell
Whether you like it or not, Goku got stronger while they stagnated, this is called progression and i love it.
You're right on the other points though.
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>Frieza not knowing that Goku beat Buu when he was watching the whole thing
Hmm?
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>>383615760
Holy shit, so THAT'S where "TENSHINHAN THE STRONG-EST HUMAN" was traced from
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>>383618192
>Future Trunks
Same as Trunks.
>Gotenks/Vegito
Fused characters are the same as their ingredients. Try again.
>Bulma
An avatar hid while Gohan/Krillin did the actual work.
>Villains
Oh, we're including villains now? Now you dug your own grave.
>Pilaf
>Shu
>Mai
>Ninja Murasaki
>General Blue
>Violet
>Commander Red
>Assistant Black
>Taopaipai
>Tenshinhan
>Chiaotzu
>King Piccolo
>Tambourine
>Cymbal
>Drum
>Major Metallitron
>Shen

>Six forms of Majin Buu
You're so desperate for the win, you're doing shit like this.
>Shitty mentality needs to be gassed.
Agreed. Being embarrassed about Dragon Ball being fun and adventurous vs. being edgy and serious must really be doing a number on you. And that was another anon, who replied to you after me, yet you conveniently ignored his post.

Your move.
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>>383618334
Pretty much every fight in every world martial arts tournament. Fortune Teller Baba too.
Most of this is due to the comedic tone of Dragonball in general of course, but it's not a tone that we see again until Buu.

>>383618772
Villans watching fights from Hell isnt canon.
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>>383602318
DBZ Legends was the first I played. The first I owned was Ultimate Battle 22. I'm not proud of that fact.
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>>383618839
Oh my god.
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>>383618772
every time hell is shown in the anime, it's filler

Toriyama hardly remembers the shit he drew himself, you shouldn't expect him to take filler into account when he's writing scripts
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>>383618953
>>383618925
Ah okay, gotcha.
Also god damn Bulma looks even younger in this.
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>>383618903
>Future Trunks and Kid Trunks are the same people
Most retarded thing I've read all day.
>Fused characters are the same as their ingredients.
>Completely new character that had his own fight is actually not a new character, he's just the older characters mixed into one, so literally every child is not a unique character because they are just old characters mixed into a new one
More retarded than the Trunks thing.
>hid while Gohan/Krillin did the actual work.
And puar did more than Bulma, right?
>Lists villains that lasted not even a chapter
Okay then:
>Raditz
>Nappa
>Guldo
>Recoome
>Burter
>Jeice
>16
>Future 17
>Future 18
>Future Cell
>Dabura
>Babidi
Oh wait, you listed all of DB's villains? Combine my current list with the old one, try again.
>Six forms of Majin Buu
Sure, let's reprhase that.
>Fat Buu
>Evil Buu
>Super Buu
>Kid Buu
Since they are all different people. Or get technical and just say Fat/Evil or Fat/Kid, since those are the only times two Buus have been on the "screen" at once.
>conveniently ignored
And I have no idea what you're talking about.
>inb4 response: ">trying to ignore a point against you, you have a shit argument even though I won't link you to the post in question."

Go ahead.
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>>383618839
Mother of god
>that Cell admiring Tenshinhan
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>>383615760
GUTSMAN!
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>>383606359
This!
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FUCK OFF GTFAGS HOLY FUCK
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>>383611170
Crapped my pants when I discovered the body change move.
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First DB game I played was one of the Budokais (maybe 3)
First DB game I actually own is Extreme Butoden. fun, but with every character having the same inputs (unless that's just a difficulty option), and only the Villains story mode being the only real What-If in Z story (everyone else is pretty much the Dragon Ball story from that specific character's viewpoint, give or take a few things like Vegeta going SSJ on Namek and not dying).
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>>383619534
>Future Trunks and Kid Trunks are the same people
Yeah, they are. One was raised in strife, the other in times of peace. They're still the same. I don't consider Jackie Chun a different character, either.
>>383619534
>And puar did more than Bulma, right?
You're talking about Z, right? I didn't mention Puar for good reason, going by YOUR interpretation of who was relevant in Z, which you mentioned in your last post.
>Lists villains that lasted not even a chapter
Yet you read the entire manga. Dumbass. Not that your list is discredited, but that statement doesn't help your case.
>Buu
All Buu. Even Kid Buu is the same as Buu. And Evil Buu literally lasted one chapter, yet that's fine just to support your case. Dumbass.
>I have no idea what you're talking about
Here you go: >>383616860

And my post, so you don't lean on a claim of samefagging:
>>383616860
>>383619534
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Any good DBZ games for the PSP?
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>>383620245
>>383616860
Quoted the wrong post, but nonetheless.
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>>383620245
>A character cosplaying as someone different is the same as an alternate version of the character who was raised in a completely different way and has different powers and personality!
This my just be my last (You) for you.
>You're talking about Z, right?
No, I'm talking about DB-Puar vs DBZ-Bulma.
>Yet you read the entire manga.
We're talking about relevancy.
>All Buu. Even Kid Buu is the same as Buu
This fucking green, what the fucking shit. Do you post on Gamefaqs often? Holy fuck.
>And Evil Buu literally lasted one chapter, yet that's fine just to support your case.
>Reading comprehension
>"Lists villains that lasted not even a chapter"
>"Okay then:"
Everyone in the thread except for you clearly knows I ONLY listed those extra villains because you listed villains who had little screen-time, so I did the same as a rebuttal. This is 2nd grade shit and you're the only person who interpreted it the wrong way, that's a gauranfuckingtee.
>Here you go
Okay and DBZ still had more relevant characters, so "good and bad alike" doesn't matter when DBZ had more individual heroes who did useful shit or had screen-time than DB heroes.

Your bait is strong, I don't know if it's retardation or you're just trolling, but if you're next (You) is as retarded as this one, I might have to reply just because.
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>>383620786
>inb4 my spelling errors lead to you calling me retarded
shit happens
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>>383605706
Kek this was me. I'd get so powerful and sit in a server killing everyone as vegeta. Manlets always win.
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So is the whole timeskip at the end of Z not canon? I ask cause RoF and BoG clearly happen before that.
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>>383620786
>No, I'm talking about DB-Puar vs DBZ-Bulma.
You didn't state that in your post, Zfag.
>We're talking about relevancy.
And those characters were relevant, if you read the manga. Which you didn't.
>Do you post on Gamefaqs often?
I guess you do, considering your need to bring it up.
>Reading comprehension
>Lists villains that lasted not even a chapter
Again, you didn't read the manga.
>Okay then
This was you losing the debate.
>Your bait is strong
Yep, you lost.
But (You) can have the last word if you want. I have nothing more to prove.
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>>383621554
It's canon. Please don't listen to anyone who say otherwise, they just have autistic headcanon where Kid Buu potential is somehow weaker than a God.

It's canon.
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>>383621687
>I have nothing more to prove.
>Didn't prove anything aside from his stupidity
What did he mean by this?
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>>383620330

Shin Budokai 2, is a mix of Budokai 3 and Burst Limit without cutscenes in the middle of fights and the paper scissors qte. It is about what-if story of Buu Saga in Future Trunks world

There is a Tenkaichi looking game too, but don't know if that is good
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>>383606359
Yep, this was my first one.
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>>383621728
But aren't the characters younger in Super than they are in those episodes?
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>>383603791
Believe it or not, mine was Super Butouden 3, not 2, since in mexico it was the pirate cart that was the most available then 2, i even saw once a CiB version of it, i am not fucking with you.

Who else owned or knew someone who own this cart?
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>>383615581
you sure he cant sense energy? I'm sure that's how kid buu found goku/vegeta on kai planet was because they had to flex there power levels for him to stop just blowing shit up.
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>>383621554
Thing fews need to be changed, like the pilaf gang and mai x trunks i guess. But Goku training Uub will happen, but one of the manga versions have something that Z doesn't, Goku giving his nimbus to Uub

>>383621728
>uub/kid buu would mimic their opponent attacks and get stronger when fighting
>implying Buu isn't some sort of god of destruction from ancient times
>even Super Buu's or Slim Buu body is similar to many of GoDS
>even the clothes
>that sleeping problem like Beerus
>that one giant ball attack that destroys planets, similar to what GoDs also do
>that plot thing that Bibidi wasn't the one that made Buu, it actually existed for millions of years

It's a matter of time until they use this as an arc or plot thing
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>>383622480
Super takes place -during- the EoZ timeskip, before Goku meets Uub.

>>383622828
Piccolo stated that Super Buu is the one who can sense energy, and Goku and Vegeta mentioned how Kid Buu can do it as well.

Fat Buu wasn't shown or stated to be able to do so.
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>>383622623

Fuck me i saw a cart in box only a few years ago at an anime club.
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>>383622925
>Uub is built up to potentially be the strongest gary stu of all time
>just some loser in GT
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>>383622828

He is wrong. Super Buu found strong energies in some place in the sky. Piccolo shits his pants and sends the kids to the hyperbolic hax chamber
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>>383622480
As said before Super takes place before End of Z and will eventually reach it but we don't know yet if:

>It will end there
>It will continue
>It will retcon it and continue

Super is giving mad dosh to Toei so it seems unlikely that it will end in less than 5 years
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>>383622981
that's the point the one that killed everyone on the planet was super buu

>When Buu killed everyone on the Earth nobody gave a fuck at that point because loldragonballz.
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WHERE IS THAT GODDAMN TRUNKS TRAILER?!
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>>383623171
Ya if he couldn't sense energy the only way it would work was if he used DUN DUNN DUNNNNN MAGIC MISSILES!
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>>383622981
>>383623172
Ah I understand.
One more question.

I'm watching RoF and Goku just freely went Super Saiyan God, but now his hair is blue. Was this to match Super or something? Or did I miss something between BoG and RoF? Especially since that random ass galactic federation dude that Bulma knows is here.
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>>383623406
SSGSS super saiyan god super saiyan so going SS while being god mode or just SS Blue it was what they learned during the time skip.
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>>383623171
Super Buu can sense energy.
Fat Buu can't.
Piccolo says this.
>>383615581
>>When Buu killed everyone on the Earth nobody gave a fuck at that point because loldragonballz.
>That was because Buu couldn't sense energy so as long as he didn't nuke the planet everyone on Kami's lookout was fine.
This entire post is in reference to Fat Buu and Trunks looking for the Dragon Balls. The DBs were useful because as long as FAT Buu didn't blow up Earth, they could revive everyone. However it isn't until SUPER Buu comes in that the plan goes to shit because he can sense ki and kill the heroes and the DBs on Kami's lookout.
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>>383623406
>random ass galactic federation dude that Bulma knows is here.
Read the Jaco prologue manga.
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>>383623271
But that's wrong though, everybody did care because Gotenks was their one and only shot. The only time >loldragonballz was actually a thing was when Fat Buu was killing people.
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>>383622480

Toriyama regrets making the characters that old looking. Krillin looked way too old, as Chichi and Bulma.
Though Goku looked pretty based and look godly looking. Which makes sense now with the god plot going on

>>383623406
Whis trains Vegeta first(Vegeta begged in Super) and then later Goku. Goku and Vegeta fight each other in trainings, they punch, blue particles around, they train inside of Whis staff that is actually a special training room which seems more based than hyperbolic chamber, they achieve Blue in there but never showed until Freeza battle.

>>383623384
If he didn't even sensed energy he wouldn't kill all human race like that. He spammed that attack in regions with people around
Only Mr.Satan and the dog survived because "master" and Tenshinhan and Chaos(wtv his name) because dodging
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Just finished Super 17. Something i do like about GT after Baby is this air of dread, the art style lends to it very well and despite their victories they feel hollow with the dragon balls tje way they are. It really does feel loke dragon ball is coming to an end .
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>>383623679
O-One more time?

>>383623856
Oh wow
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>>383623406
Goku learned Super Saiyan Blue off-screen. Him and Vegeta just got a powerup and obtained it for plot reasons. It's explained in the manga better than in the anime and the movie. And even then it's just explained in 1 narration panel.
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>>383624043
>>383624006
Ah, gotcha.
Thanks a ton, dudes.
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>>383623406
>that random ass galactic federation dude
Talking shit about Jaco is not allowed here, fucking greenfag
Also, Tights is best girl.
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>>383624043
Forgot about the manga bit. Goku and Vegeta are training in Blue and then that all talking about the Super Saiyan God's name being long happens and they say "just say Blue"
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>>383624006
>If he didn't even sensed energy he wouldn't kill all human race like that. He spammed that attack in regions with people around

Yeah it was sensing energy or magic BS so basically the same thing and the only normal human to survive was Hercule because fat buu wouldn't let super hurt him.
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>>383624431
Hey, Gohan!
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>>383624431
Super Buu did sense energy. His attacks specifically targeted people, there's no arguing that.
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>>383624561
>Strongest Manga Tien
>Best clothing of every character
>Saves the strongest character up to that point
>jobs
being a tienfag is a sad life
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>>383624431
>"magic BS"
Sensing energy was a thing since Namek. Super Buu sensed energy, then killed them all when Piccolo said to go waste time by killing the remaining humans, thinking it would take far longer than 3 seconds.

>>383624241
That girl looks like a rhythm Tengoku character.
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>>383624762
You should read it because there is a great surprise at the end, you can be spoiled by Super.
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>>383624762
>Sensing energy was a thing since Namek. Super Buu sensed energy,

Hmmmm it was a joke on the fact that the thread turned into a discussion about buu being able to sense energy and the fact that he is basically a djinn so even if he doesn't do it in the normal fasion a spell like Ki attack could.
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>>383624759
Tien in general and Vegeta's casual wardrobe is the most /fa/ of DB

>>383625096
Shit. Too late now. Is it long?
15mins left in the movie.
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>>383602318
Final bout actually, picked it up from fucking game dude in so cali. I miss that store...
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>>383625213
There is no ref to that in the movie and it's only one tome.
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POST CUTE CACs
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How is this game?
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>>383626136
Shin budokai > Budokai 3
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>>383626136
I like the second one more, but they were both alright
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