Mouse Thread

>>383602198
Designed for 14 years old kids

>>383602373
That would be Razer

>>383602423
That shit looks no better than Razer

>>383602423
I like the deathadder
They have shitty names, but i found one without the fucking retarded led's and it feels nice

>>383602198
Great sensor made useless by the weight. If you don't care about aiming then might as well go full retard with an MMO mice.

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My Deathadder from 2011 refuses to die. I need a good mouse that matches the rest of my setup, so black or white. I don't really care for rgb bullshit but if it has it, I don't care. Must have a decent sensor and at least the 2 extra buttons the Deathadser has.

Please /v/, you're my only hope.

>>383604081
t. weak hands

>>383604113
g403 or g703

>>383602198
after using the g502 and the g402 for 6 month each I think the g402 is better
both are great tho
>>383604081
I don't understand the complain about the weight of a mouse, do you have the strengh of a 10 years old girl?
You should try to start lifting or some shit if you have problem with the weight of a mouse

it isn't. The shape's awful and I far prefer my g600 for regular games. Nixeus revel for shooters.

Would have jumped on the G pro if its mousewheel clicked side to side. That's the feature I miss most on the revel.

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You guys are entitled to your opinions, but I'd consider this is the best.

>>383604113
what game is that on the right

>>383604984
look like hammerwatch
It's a fun game but way to long to do a run

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>>383602198
>What's the best gaming mouse out there and why is it the g502?
Close but no cigar.

>>383605315
I always hated how long that thing was. The shape was okay, but it was just too long.

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ladies, please

>>383605421
I think it's just right. My fingers are quite long tho.

>>383602198
I bought this piece of shit. What's with the fucking mouse wheel? I so much as tap it and I'll cycle through my whole inventory in an fps.

>>383604980
It's a heavier WMO with a worse sensor.

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Had this for a few years now, Mionix Naos 3200. Does the job just fine. No, I don't play any games competitively so I don't need anything amazing, but it feels nice and looks nice.

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- Razer if you want an inferior sensor, 8ms of artificially added click delay to prevent debounce clicks due to poor manufacturing tolerances, inferior Chinese Huano switches, etc.
- BenQ if you want a REALLY inferior sensor (last-gen, PMW3310 compared to PMW3360 for Razer and PMW3366 for Logitech) and heavy OEM mouse bodies
- Logitech if you want the best sensor in existence, the lightest non-custom bodies in existence, top of the line Japanese Omron switches rated at 50 million actuations, and a spread of many mice with different shapes and features and weights

Pick your PMW3366 carrrier

g502 is 117 grams, medium, right handed, 7 buttons, unlockable free-scrolling scrollwheel
g403 is 87 grams, large, right handed
g pro is 83 grams, small, ambidextrous

I use a g pro, the weight and size are ideal.

>>383606273
>8ms of artificially added click delay

Yeah, you will totally notice that 8ms delay (not)

>>383606273
Which Logitech mice are good for fingertip grips

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Master race here.

>>383606760
If you get a shit mouse, shit monitor, shit drivers and a shit game it all adds up.

I just got a G402, I've heard good thing about both but this one is a bit cheaper and I like the design more

>>383606760
You don't have to notice it, it's there, working against you. The click delay is also not even close to the reason why PMW3366 is so superior to PMW3310 and PMW3360 - see the other charts in the image showing the high speed tracking performance.

There is also the matter of mouse smoothing. PMW3366 has zero smoothing at any DPI, PMW3310 and PMW3360 have smoothing even at their native DPI (800.)

And because PMW3366 has no true native DPI you can jack up the DPI as high as you like to decrease pixel skipping and increase sub-millimeter responsiveness.

>CM storm spawn no longer produced
RIP

my 20$ G102 works just fine :)

>>383605574
Had one of these, loved it but stopped working within three month due to it's shitty cord so I had to refund it.
They are pretty much impossible to find now here since it's discontinued, the rebrand looks fucking retarded.

so isnt the g403 like the best fps mouse out right now?

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>>383602198
I have a G402 also logitech that looks like yours OP.
I think it's destroying my wrist.
I don't know why but sometimes it just start hurting after prolonged use of it.

Can anyone confirm if it's just me or the mouse really just is shit?

>>383607219
I don't know man, I have deathadder chroma and it just works.

>>383604113
Hey i have that arcade stick too.
Does yours creak a lot?
Mine started doing it and pisses me off.

>>383607694
It's between the G403 and the G Pro. These are the two lightest PMW3366 mice right now.

G403 is for big hands, G pro is for small hands, is ambidextrous and slightly lighter.

>>383602198
The sensor on my 502 went haywire in less than a month, it was a worse purchase than the naga 2015, and that is exceptional.

Take a look at Sades' peripherals. Everything's superb.

>>383603459
>look
Why do you care about looks? Because you don't want to get bullied on reddit? This "ugly" has one of the best sensors in the market by far

i just got a G403
feels really nice, but my hands are huge so that may be why

>>383608196
>The sensor on my 502 went haywire in less than a month

I sincerely doubt it, the sensor is the last thing that will fail in any modern mouse.

You people who have a mouse with macro support. Considering buying one.
>How much do you use the macro capabilities?
>In what cases do you people use them?
>What do you use the macros for?
>Do onine games ban you for using hardware macros?
>Does it have advanced scripting capabilities (Lua/custom script language support/etc.)?
>Is it worth buying a a mouse with macro support?

Again I'll ask until a savior appears. I have a mixture grip of fingertip. The part comes in with my index finger and middle finger being extremely arched (Almost like claw but without the back-end of the mouse touching my palm. I need a mouse with a length of maybe 4.5 inch and no more. Everytime I try a new mouse I end up clicking the end part of the clicks which feels back.

>>383607723
may come from the way you hold you mouse.

You should get one of thoses padded mousepads to lessen the strain on your wrist

>>383608227
How did you even manage to pull "reddit" out of your fat ass you total fucking retard?

There are plenty of mouses with the same or equally good sensor, even from Logitech itself and with better shape that is not designed like a bat-mobile for retarded teenagers like you.

>>383602198
Grow up.

>>383602198

I owned the g502 for 3 days and had to take it back. It was tall, heavy, awkward, uncomfortable... I wanted to like it, but took it back and got a Rival 100 instead. No complaints, so comfy and accurate. Great price too.

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>CTRL+F
>Zowie
>0 results

nu-/v/ at its finest

>>383608516
>>Do onine games ban you for using hardware macros?

I know a guy who got banned for using mouse macro. He used it for bot-like grinding and he got banned. There was a thread were he tried to convince people that mouse macro is okay and harmless but that didn't help him.

>>383611089
It was in Tree of Savior, forgot to say.

>>383602198


Using a G502 myself. It's alright.

Not really keen on the aesthetics, but, functionally, it's all there.

Only real complaint I have is the scroll wheel felt too stiff at first, and the microgear just makes it uncontrollable.

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Real talk, how much of a difference does having a "gaming mouse" even make? I thought it was just a meme. I've always just used a regular old cheapie mouse that's been treating me just fine for years.

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r8 || h8

>>383611246
No fucking difference if you are not deluding yourself with being a FPS wannabe-"pro".

Most kids just buy the same brand as their favorite "pro" players anyway. Most "pros" don't even give a shit about devices they use and would use anything their sponsors give them for free.

>>383602198
g900 bit the price is inappropriate

Do wireless mouse and keyboard affect gaming?
its just not comfortable anymore using my wired mouse anymore.

>>383602198
Imagine coming home to that abomination of a mouse

>>383611246
The higher end mouses (ie the one with best sensors) feel much smoother even at 60hz.

G703 Vs G502

Price is irrelevant, what would be the best mouse for latency? I don't really need a bunch of buttons

I use a g-pro and it's pretty good

I want to try an m65 since I claw and it looks like it would be good for it

>>383611496

lol

>>383611246

it's better for fps and even mobas or rts to an extent

shit even for office tasks like exel it is an improvement

my office has the shittiest mice of all time and I frequently click the wrong tool because the rate is so bad

>>383612214
Neither, especially the g502. Unless you like wireless mouses get the g pro or something.

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best mouse coming through.

>>383605879
There's a button made specifically to switch from that to the "clicky" mode.

Are you too autistic to read instructions?

G pro with hyperglides + paracord cable + weight removal mod is a dream, 74 grams and so smooth on the mousepad it's like it's oiled.

Where's my G400/400S buddies at? When this thing dies I think I'm gonna jump off a cliff, none of the newer mice feel quite the same.

Zowie.

FK2 or EC2A depending on your grip preference. Shitty scrollwheels aside, how can anyone compete?

>>383611246
Additional programable buttons made it completely worth it for me, especially for push to talk and other hotkeys. Optical tracking is also much more superior to ball or laser.

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I upgraded from my G502 to the G900. Never looked back. Having no wire catching onto shit is so fucking nice. Just charge when I sleep and it's ready for another day.

>>383607967
Creak? Like the joystick itself? Not yet, Maybe get some silicone grease and lube your joystick and buttons my man. Make sure it's silicon grease so it won't smell weird.


>>383604984
>>>383604113 (You)
>what game is that on the right
Hammerwatch. Buy it and play with me.
>>383604672
Thanks anon, I'll look into them.

>>383614149
>gaming on a wireless mouse
Fucking casual

>>383613980

they used to be the best but sensor tech has advanced and they're still stuck on the old ones

>>383613980
>Shitty scrollwheels aside, how can anyone compete?

Because Zowie/BenQ mice use eight year old Avago 3310 sensors and Chinese switches. By comparison, Logitech uses the state-of-the-art PMW3366 and Japanese Omron switches rated at 50 million actuations (versus the 10 million of the huanos - and that's a Chinese rating, the real failure will be millions below)

See >>383606273

>>383614215

>1ms response time
>Out-performs wired mice

>>383613980
This. Love this mouse its so light and doesn't look like an edgy mess.

>>383614348
>>1ms response time
>>Out-performs wired mice

It doesn't have a 1ms response time, and it's not physically possible for it to out-perform other wired Logitech mice. Certainly it will outperform many wired mice from other manufacturers though.

The wireless G403 and the wired G403 were tested against each other latency-wise, the wired one is faster. See the center-left graph in >>383606273

>>383602198
the g502 is a good casual mice since it does everything just not at the highest levels. I'd prefer to use my g600 which is better for almost everything except fps. I'd use am FPS mouse but then I'd be useless for every other game since I need the buttons because games these days need more buttons then I can comfortably press unless they use some shitty system like using the scroll wheel to switch between weapons/items.

So I just use my g502 and get a bit of both. It's alright but as soon as they make an optical g600 that can do fps i'm out of here.

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>>383614149
>Wireless
>Charging


Fuck off kid, adults are talking

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Gaming mice are a meme but if you want to game like a pro you better start using trackballs

>>383614220
You could not tell the difference between these sensors unless you used a machined benchmark. The only thing that matters is that the mouse does not spin out when you flick it quickly.

>>383602198
i like it but its a bit too heavy and bulky, whenever i lift i get a horrible clunk when i resurface.
thinking of getting the smaller g403, even though i have massive hands

>>383602198
love this mouse, had it for a year now and its easily one of the best I've used

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>>383614652

>He doesn't know

>>383614629

>Same exact DPI
>Same exact pressure on buttons
>Same exact software
>Same exact laser

The only difference is the side buttons. How the fuck can your G600 "Not do fps".
Are you fucking retarded?

>>383610264
Not even him but you might be even more stupid for caring about looks in regards to a mouse's performance

>>383614839
>The only thing that matters is that the mouse does not spin out when you flick it quickly.

Avago 3310 (used in Zowie/BenQ mice) is utterly trashed by the PMW3366 in high-speed 'flicking' translations

See 'tracking performance/smoothness at high speed' chart in >>383606273

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I've been using this my whole life, what's the difference?

I bought a g502, but the m4 is so small it annoys me so I'm still using my half broken deathadder

Got both a 502 and a g403
I prefer the latter, I barely use the extra functions on the 502 and it's lighter

>>383615015
>same exact pressure on buttons
>same exact laser

the g600 isn't even optical lol what

and the buttons on the g600 are god tier you need to put some force before you are pressed. I constantly press the buttons because they are so sensitive on a g502.

Do you not know the differences in mouse that are good for FPS and the ones that are not?

also
>DPI
>mattering in 2017

>>383615081
that said, I took mine apart recently to clean it and now my schroll wheel is kinda wonky. I think rather than take it apart again I might just replace it.

So serious answers to my 'what's the difference' question so I can actually start shopping for a mouse

>>383614215
The g900 is actually amazing though

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Anyone else here a big fan of the G602?

>>383615054
Did you not read what I just said? These MACHINED benchmarks are useless because no one has the accuracy to utilize those speeds . If you want to test this out for yourself then use an inferior sensor and see if you can get it to spin out. If it does then you've passed it's maximum speed, the speed the sensor has trouble with in the chart. But you won't get it to spin out because you fucking can't.

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Been using this mouse since 2011 never had a problem with it

for medium-to-large hand best (objectively) is Logitech G403 Wired and second best is Finalmouse Scream One

for sissy hands Zowie is a good choice, I have no experience using em, but they have a good sensor, ergonomics and weight

>>383615046
Not everyone is a degenerate with shit taste like you filthy swine.

>>383606273
HOLY SHIT SOMEONE IN THESE STUPID FUCKING THREADS HAS SOME TASTE FOR ONCE THANK YOU ANON

>>383613672

right here my nigg. Best mouse

>>383615657
I can never get past that design I mean I'm sure its an alright mouse but what were the creators thinking.

I guess it's like how fake worn pants with holes sell

>>383614874
>>383615167
Do yourself a favor and get that ugly heavy rat out of your house.

>>383615891
Nah it's still cool

>>383615046
You could've chose any other logitech mouse and it would've had similar performance and didn't look like a teenager's wet dream.

>>383615891
its a good mouse its just too large to be suited to propper lift.

>>383602198
I've been using the G502 Proteus Core for years now and it's an absolute fucking beast.

My mice taking BEATINGS while I'm playing competitive games and this thing is still 100% as functional as it was when I got it. Plus it's comfortable and the scroll wheel is fucking AMAZING which is really important to me because I bhop a lot on CS

>>383615459
Those aren't 'machined' benchmarks, they were performed by a Japanese guy swinging his arm back and forth.

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I own a G502, but I don't even use it anymore, I just use the Redragon Centrophorus M601 for $15, I originally bought it for my laptop but now use it as my main mouse since I like it so much.

For all broke anons, this is the one to get.

>>383613672
G400s reporting in. Whatever you do dont toss that shit when it starts the disconnecting thing that logitech mice do, all you have to do is move the cable further into the mouse, its a 5 minute fix, theres a million how to videos on youtube.
I hope this thing lives forever, best mouse bar none.

>>383604980
Steelseries definitely has some awesome mice in my opinion. Do you know anything about their other products? How good are they? I'd love to get back into Steelseries.

I have their QcK+ CSGO Edition mousepad and it's lasted for many years and is still in good condition, which is really awesome.

>>383606273
I'm not really good at analyzing tech speak but when you refer to "debounce clicks" are you talking about the double clicking on Razer mice? Because I got that within 9 months on EVERY Razer mouse I've ever owned and it's fucking retarded. Razer has the worst products on the fucking market.

>>383616169
Guess what read the performance of those sensors. I am comparing it to a human benchmark as in people using the mouses and testing whether there are any faults they could detect.

>>383611246
No difference at all. The only difference would be if you would like one of those MMO mouses with multiple buttons on the side, that is quite neat if you play MMOs

>>383616127
>Guess what read the performance of those sensors.

Mousebench, a free program you can download and replicate these tests yourself. You will find your Avago 3310 spins out at 150cm/s too, while any PMW3366 mouse you test is good up to 1m/s+

>>383606273
>I use a g pro, the weight and size are ideal.
Waste of money, G103/G203 is far better deal.

Just cause this is a mouse thread: razer naga and naga hex are on sale at 39.99 each for Amazon Prime day.

>>383617173
So a program running on a machine. Why bother making yourself look retarded. Yes it spins out at 150cm/s but you would never reach those speed in normal use. There are many videos of people testing the 3310 for spin outs and they can't do it.

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>>383617380
>razer

>>383616334
I've never actually had a Logitech mouse do the disconnect thing, at least on my own- my original G5 had button issues but the wire was fine, the G500's sensor started jittering (and I learned why to never buy laser mice), and my current G400 (mk2 by serial #) has been going strong for over half a decade now with no issues.

>>383602198

I have this mouse. It's great in every way except it's a bit too small.

>>383604081
What's wrong with you?

I could sorta understand my 90 year old grandmother liking a smaller mouse because it had less weigh, but probably not you.

>>383618009
Everyone and their grandma knows a lighter mouse is always better for aiming.

>>383617798
I retired my G5 and mx518 because of it. The G5 was laser and the sonsor is better in the 400S so im not that upset about it but when the 400 started going there was no way i was getting rid of it.
Ive had it for about 5 years and it started going a few weeks ago. Took me longer to find my screwdrivers than it actually did to fix and its been perfect since.
Just a heads up in case you run into issues.

>>383617173
But anon 150 cm/s is the same as 1m+/s

>>383617894
Post a picture of your giant fucking manimal paws, you freak.

>>383617547
... No, mousebench doesn't magically move your mouse for you. You move the mouse and it gives you information about the sensor output. Those graphs are from a defunct Japanese tech blog called 'utmalesoldiers' where a guy hand-tested many different mice and found the PMW3366 has the best high-speed performance of any sensor.

gaming mouses are a meme,i still play quake3 and ut99 sometimes online and when i ask the best players, they always say they use 5$ mouse cuz the difference is minimal

>>383619683
You are literally retarded. A machine benchmark will collect raw data from the sensor and quantize it so it could be compared with other sensors. The user can provide the input. It doesn't mean you need fucking external equipment. A human benchmark does exactly what you think it does and compares the sensors how a human would normal compare them.
Also nice ellipses you dumb newfag.

I tried all the meme mice of current_year, and I ended with the Roccat Kone EMP.

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the REAL best mouse coming through

poor fags need not apply

>>383620217
>still playing a decades-old game
It's because they're too poor to afford a new mouse, so they're stuck with their PS/2 ball mice from 1995.

>>383602198
infinite spin wheel is amazing and i found it to abuse some mechanics in some games

>>383617380
>laser
Not even once.

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>>383604081

Probably should hit the gym kiddo

>>383618341

That's absolutely false lmao. My aim is very jittery at times and the fact that the G502 is a heavier mouse absolutely, 100%, helps my aim be more consistent.

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>>383606273

Autism the post

>>383602198
i just bought this mouse coming from the G400 and I can't stand that my thumb rests on a button, i just wanna click it all fucking day

>>383620771
Is that Chicago?

>>383615890
I thought it was cool looking back then but yeah the look is outdated

>>383620798
How the fuck does your mouse rest on a button? It rests in the nook below the buttons what the fuck lmao

Do you have the thumb of an actual fucking ogre?

>>383615394
I was before my fucking scroll wheel click died after 2 months of use. Piece of fucking shit.

>>383620680
Says the nova scrub. Why do you think the pros won't touch heavy mouses. You should pick up quake and feel the mouse dragging you back.

>>383620568
i dunno i prefer the 502 after trying both out at the store.

>>383620927
I have a big fucking hand anon. It rests on the fucking DPI switcher or else it feels off.

I just want a mouse that doesnt have a weak ass m3 button

I have a M65 with the scroll wheel button not working anymore. I miss it so I'll probably get a new one.

>>383620914
Those two towers look like their twins, its probably in California

I don't get the whole RGB and whacky lighting craze going on at the moment, i find it kind of distracting.

>>383602198
That's a stupid question OP.

>Not being a poorfag and getting the g300 / g300s

>>383621201
I meant a new mouse in general. Probably not another M65.

>>383620379
Mousebench is not a 'machine benchmark', you don't understand what you're talking about even slightly. Please stop retreating miles deep into faux retardation to try to save face.

>>383620983
Lol holy shit bro. Go play some more god awful games and then donate some more money to the fucking retards that you watch on twitch you cancerous underaged faggot.

>>383621435
It's only like 10 bucks cheaper than their newer G models

>>383607694
G403 is just a less ergonomic deathadder with a worse sensor

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You all lost

I got a G700s a couple of years ago, it's pretty good, I probably can't go back to not having 4 buttons for my thumb anymore.

>>383615394
I first got this but it was lagging and stuttering like shit so I got the 502 instead

>>383621713
Not in a third world country

>>383621504
If you don't think your computer collecting and comparing the sensors' data is a machine then you are the retard. Tell me what a machine benchmark is then. If you say you need external machines then don't even both replying to me you dumb cunt.

>>383620771
>have a ten foot wide car, more than likely with bench seats
>sleep on a table instead

>>383621791
Less ergonomic is debatable but the G403 sensor is demonstrably better, razercuck.

>>383621791
Incorrect, the G403 has the superior sensor to any Deathadder on the market. See >>383606273

>>383621627
What's a good game where you would need to aim quickly and precisely?

>>383621627
>quake
>godawful
Now you done it you utter fag

>>383622361
Overwatch :^)
Not really trolling though. McCree and Widow come to mind

>>383616327
Is it any good.

>>383622115
>If you don't think your computer collecting and comparing the sensors' data is a machine then you are the retard

What else is going to collect the data? Your mouse spits out USB traffic, you can't plug it into a book and have it come out onto that.

Your argument was that Mousebench results aren't valid because the guy was using some kind of machine to accelerate the mouse to 300 cm/s, which is not true, he explains in the blog post that he doesn't have any such machine and had to use his hands at a very even pace.

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>>383602198

Cooler Master Sentinel Advance

Have not moved on from this model since I started using them.

Perfect mix of cheap and sexy (just like ur mum)

>>383622525
Christ you say all that but you come up with the most casual fps in existence. You think playing McCree or Widowmaker is harder than playing Quake? Kill yourself.

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G pro and g403 are the best mice on the market, which to use depends on whether you have giant basketball-american hands or not.

Comparing PMW3366 mice to Avago 3310 mice, when you're in-tune with mice enough to sense minute differences, is night and day. PMW3366 is the god sensor.

I just wish there was a 2000hz version of PMW3366 for the new 240fps monitors, 1000hz on 240fps feels inadequate like 500hz did on 120fps

>>383622525
Have you ever played Quake in your life
It's Widow and McCree and Zarya and Pharah and a bunch more characters running on super fast movement against equally capable and fast opponents

>>383614219
>they used to be the best but sensor tech has advanced and they're still stuck on the old ones
So what, a lot of Quake pros are still using old microsoft mouses with 400 DPI.

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>>383623117
All in one character, of course

>>383602198
G Pro or go home

>>383622647
A human benchmark lets the user collect data on the sensors. They check to see if they can feel any difference in response rates or if the mouse would spin out if the mouse was flicked as quickly as possible. A human benchmark is fundamentally different to a machine benchmark.
And of course you didn't understand my argument. I meant the chart doesn't matter because you can't get the mouses to spin out, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the sensors because the fault speeds are too high.

>>383623425
>you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the sensors because the fault speeds are too high.
Again, he reached the fault speeds by swiping his hand back and forth. If he reached them doing this, you too can reach them.

>>383602198
>Mx518
8 buttons well placed

>>383623657
And that is why I say a machine benchmark is useless because only the program could detect those faults. I also said there is no one who would be able to utilize those speeds. The only way to reach those speeds is if you were to disregard aiming which again is useless. And just like everyone else who has tested the 3310 during game play on a large mouse pad, I can't get it to spin out, and neither could you.

>>383624287
>because only the program could detect those faults

No. Mousebench reads the mouse's output in the exact same way as a video game or any other program does. It just displays that data as points on a graph instead of a series of translations in a 3D space. If there are errors showing up in the Mousebench they will be in your games too.

>the only way to reach those speeds is if you were to disregard aiming

The Zowie mouse fucked up at 150 cm/s. >>383623030 is roughly ten times that speed

>>383622245
>>383622337
Literally a paid shill. You've been proven to be a shill on here and /g/ before. Fuck off you fucking loser.

>>383602198

i switched to the g502 this year, after 10 years of using deathadders. Razer is fucking abysmal, each deathadder only lasted about 2 years before the left click stopped working.

only used that trash due to sponsorship.

>want to buy a new mouse
>Everything looks like total hot garbage

god damn "gaming" marketing is such fucking shit

>>383625047
Only retards buy and use razer products of their own volition

>>383614652
What's wrong with wireless mice? Not him, but was considering getting one and curious.

>>383611246
at minimum i would at least buy a mouse with a back and forward buttom for your thumb. browsing is so comfy with that shit that i cant go back to a regular mouse.

>>383625206

agreed

Bought zowie fk2 a year ago. What a dissapointment. Can't wait to buy a new mouse.

>>383624804
So you're telling me that if you were testing the sensors without the program you could detect the faults of the sensors in game? Don't kid yourself, you only get off to the numbers a program gives you when comparing them at extreme speeds that you would never reach during game play. If you care so much about stats then buy yourself a razer deathadder chroma, since it has an even better sensor than what that chart tests.

>>383625627
>then buy yourself a razer deathadder chroma, since it has an even better sensor than what that chart tests.

Incorrect, the Deathadder Chroma has PMW3389, a re-branded PMW3360 with no changes. It has heavy smoothing and significant added input delay compared to the zero-smoothing PMW3366. See input delay chart in center-left of >>383606273

>>383625409
It used to be because of latency and battery but wireless mouses are getting better so getting one isn't so much of a bad thing anymore.

>>383604697
I have g402 and my brother has a g502 and for me as someone with fingertip grip the 502 feels better because of it's shorter "back part" but if I lay my whole hand on both (palm grip) the g402 feels better

>>383626273
The newest revision uses a 3989 go search it up. Of course you still wouldn't buy it because you thought you cared about having the best sensor. Keep ignoring my other arguments as well to make yourself feel better.

>>383606240
I had that thing for a while until the middle click broke
Very comfortable but wouldn't really use it for games

>>383625409
If you're in any way serious about games e.g. CS the latency is too high

I want a good mouse.

For ages I have been using the MX518. It was a really good mouse but I wanted something with more functions and the thing was so dirty and worn out that I considered something new.

So I got one of the first Steelseries Rival in the market. And let me tell you after a few years I'm really disappointed. The rubber on the sides is gone, mainly because it fucking melted away. Mouse button 3 (the wheel one) sometimes registers multiple clicks if you hold it for more than a quarter of a second, the wheel feels really cheap. The software is quite crappy, there's a lot of indications on internet against newer firmwares and updating/downgrading the thing is a pain in the ass because it can get easily stuck doing nothing until you plug/unplug the thing or follow the instructions correctly (which is, flash firmware, wait a few seconds, kill every single SS engine process, restart Windows without unplugging the mouse, open the engine while the mouse is still flashing blue, pretty intuitive of course) and it doesn't exactly feel any more accurate than the MX518 at all.

So, given this information, which mouse would you suggest if I had these both?

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>>383602198
if you actually care about having a good mouse, look no further than the Logitech G303 Apex Deadelus mouse. The one true successor to the Logitech MX518.

>>383626890
I'm more of a casual gamer than anything else.

wat get if I really like the g403 but it feels a lil too big

Anyone have a recommendation for an mmo mouse? The naga broke in a few months and the g600 is starting to double click.

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The middle button on my G402 stopped working within 6 months, I don't think I'm ever buying Logitech again

>>383607196
>>383627585

>>383627226
The shape is not meant for human hands I tried it and its pretty uncomfortable.

>>383627585
k

>>383627243
G pro

>>383608516
I have g402 but regularly also use g502
Both have 2 thumb macros
I use them mainly in Arma 3 for switching between sight modes and to stop breathing
They help a lot because they add 2 more buttons that I can use without interrupting any other functions like side stepping or any other movement
But now that I think about it there aren't that many situations where it's really nacessary to switch between long- and short range sights while moving,
but I can't really think of any other key for holding breath than the macro so that's probably the more helpful macro

and I haven't been banned from anywhere

>>383627854
My hands are 19cm, will that work?
Also how is the G pro vs a 303

My G600 recently started double and triple clicking so i replaced it with a Razer Deathadder Elite...

What a fucking mistake, i use macros on my mouse a lot for gaming and Logitech Gaming Software has been awesome, i thought Razer's macro software would be better but Synapse is a shitty ass buggy fucking mess of a software that needs to be in offline mode to not for some fucking reason use all your pc's resources... What the fuck, making macros is buggy as fuck, assigning colors is buggy as fuck.

Avoid Razer, im never buying another Razer product again, lesson learned.

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>>383602198
because its somewhat of a successor to the previous best mouse, the G5

>>383627782
>ergonomics
I suppose an ergonomical mice would be good but if you were playing an MMO. Otherwise you need a mice that is versatile to the touch for anything not an MMO.

I actually avoided Razer like the plague until I won the lancehead and their (stupid) led mousepad from a Best Buy club contest I didnt know I entered
I was thinking about selling them on CG but decided to try the mouse since my lg started double clicking (and who the fucks gonna buy a led mousepad on craigslist). I must admit even with the shittier optic sensor, its p good

>>383614789
>Gaming mouse are a meme
>Game like a pro

>>383616070
>similar performance
Wow thank god us intelligent gamers are willing to sacrifice performance for appearance

>>383628405
bet you eat like a noob kid

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I don't know what mouse to get. I love my deathadder 2013s shape and size. Don't play shitty csgo. Only fps I play really are rising storm 2 and squad.
Was thinking the g502 but I'm not sure.

>>383628413
Similar does not mean worse. The g pro for example has the exact same sensor while weighing less and looking less autistic.

>>383615394
Too many buttons for my fat thumb to differentiate between
Otherwise i'd love to use one

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>Zero mention of Corsair in the entire thread
Bought me a Corsair Sabre to replace my previous meme mouse a month ago, it's quite comfy and pleasant in use.

>>383620568
I like the "thumb rest" that 502 has too much to use that

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Why can't Logitech just make a mouse without the fucking bling? Is the mouse market determined as all 14 year olds?

>>383628060
I wish Logitech would make a new grid mouse, the G600 is so fucking old and lacking so many things their newer gaming mice have (basically I'd kill for a G600 with individual top buttons and clickier side buttons), but there's no real alternative if you want the G-Shift.

>>383629127
Yes

>>383629127
The fact you call it a market already labels you as a gamer or a bling loving teen/adult that never grew up.

If you just need a mouse and don't care, you snort at the entire range and buy one of those 5 dollar Hama/Microsoft ones.

>>383629127
They make "office mice" but don't really advertise them because everything "gaming" like RGB aim enhancers get all e-sport kids to buy their products but they also make them actually technically good to compete in "the mouse with the highest specs win" competition so it's either a practical office mouse or bling bling performance mouse

>>383628740
It looks like a shitty mouse you'd get out of a bin for 10 dollars at staples.
Why are you so hellbent on trying to not have an "autistic" mouse? Are you seriously that INSECURE? Do you think the gross fat slut you brought home won't play with your 4" dong for 5 minutes before you explode everywhere because you have a gaming mouse?
Kill yourself you literal autist

>>383629127
Damn, you seem really mature by not liking lights

>>383621793
this guy knows

>>383629495
>all gamers are teens and manchildren
ok

>>383629726
Yes, because maturity is required to not want lights blinking in your face all the time.

>>383629856
Well the mouse in the pic aside most mice have the rgb logo that you cover with your palm

>>383629684
Trying so hard to defend that awful purchase. Would you buy a shitty looking car or a decent looking car with the same specs. Come on son put the pieces together!

same as gaming chairs lul
placebo for 15yo with birthday money

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>>383629856
Oh fuck that was hard.

G502's light looks pretty crap turned off though

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>>383630360
>using ((((optimization)))) software
wew
we've got lots of underage itt

>>383605574
This. Using these for like 16 years. They weight slightly more than an average mouse, which gives you more control. They never make your hand glide and their update rate is fair enough. Don't go for a cordless one however.
Also I'll need to mention the mouse wheel suck, but thumb buttons are long lasting.

>>383630360
Could you take a picture of the lights turned off I want to see.

>>383630470
Better underage than hopeless delusional
manchild

>>383630612
Are you saying you're underage?

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>>383630597
I can post one I didn't take.

>>383630675
report him

>>383630861
Eh doesn't look that bad.

>>383630675
I'm saying I would rather deal with children than your bullshit

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>>383630612
>>383630675
>>383630937
OH SHIT SON U GOT TURNDABOUT

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>>383630675
You caught him red handed lad.

>>383630974
I just don't like the clear plastic without any light, it feels like something on a cheap toy. Most other things you turn the light off it just looks black.

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Why haven't they made a new one of these? Wireless or something

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>>383631696
>Still no wireless charging mice
fucking why? It literally solves the battery issue. IT'S 20 FUCKING 17.

>>383631773
There are.

http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/powerplay-wireless-charging

>>383631902
>proprietary mousepad as charger
fuck that
just make a docking station and let me use my own mousepad

>>383632001
It's not a mousepad, it's a little thing you put above your mousepad

>>383625536
What did you not like about it?

>>383632112
My god they thought of everything

>>383632170
clicks are loud af

>>383615394
i have this thing, but logitech's switches are absolutely fucking garbage. i've had 2 replacements on my warranty already.
a friend has had 1 replaced.
my brother, with a different logitech mouse has also had his left click switch die.

i just want a reasonably priced wireless mouse.
why won't microsoft just make a new intellimouse explorer.

>>383602198
that mouse looks really sharp

>>383632382
I touched the ends in a store and my hand turned into ketchup bomb

>>383628043
303 is inferior

I have almost 20cm hands and the g403 fits perfectly

>>383631902
Fuck, that actually looks nice. Saving that link for future use

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>tfw 7.5 inch hands and palm grip user
Went through:
MX518 nice, but upgraded
G400s (right mouse button became really sensitive probably due to Dota 2)
Roccat Kone Pure Optical (part of the left mouse button got chipped cause I kept swipping into my das keyboard)
Mionix Naos 7000 (side mouse button became jammed/stuck, which sucks cause I use it frequently in Siege and Overwatch)

Had to go back to my G400s but the middle mouse wheel groans when I scroll with it. Thinking about getting the G403 but if there's any other mice out there with as good of a sensor and is suited for my hands w/ palm grip, I might reconsider.

Was also thinking about getting the G900 but I'm unsure if the latency would even be problematic compared to other, wired mice.

why are my nipples pointy it isnt cold at all

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>>383604113
>$3000 doller in computer parts
>$20 chair

>>383604113
who r u sitting next to
also how sturdy are those sticks when u attach them to ur desk?

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Step aside you niggers, best mouse coming through.

As a left handed person, I absolutely reccomend the logitech g900, it's the greatest mouse I ever had.

>>383602198
Because it fits my big yaoi hands and the infinite scroll wheel makes it easier to browse boards

>>383615738
>values look over features, function and performance
>retarded enough to tell others that they have a shitty taste.

>>383604113
Logitech g900
>>383632692
I know I should stop shilling the g900 but be assured, the delay is inexistant or even shorter than some wired mice's. Go for it, you'll love it man.

>>383615081
>My whole life
>USB mouse
Underage.

Too bad the g900 is a fucking hundred dollars. 60 is my upper limit on a mouse.

>>383634284
It's not only looks but ergonomics as well you retarded mongoloid. And if it looks like shit I'd find another product with the same sensor or equally good (and there are lots of them, even with "inferior" ones you won't notice any difference anyway) and better design that doesn't make me want to puke.
Stop trying to defend your utter shit GAYMURR GEAR you underage retard. Adults with good taste don't want their mouses look like fucking Bat-mobiles.

>>383602198
I have the razer meme naga.
It's okay i guess.

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>>383604113
My Death Adder had a really bad double clicking problem. Just replaced it with a Corsair Gaming m65 pro rgb and its fantastic. If your not into the lights you can set them to white if you want to match your setup.

>>383627782
Been using it for about a year now, it's perfectly fine.

>>383621793

my fav mouse of all time but it's way too expensive for what it is now

I wish they would reboot it

>>383615394
I love this mouse. Great DPI, great response time, great battery life. I've had mine for four months so far and I haven't had any issues, and I haven't had to change the batteries yet either.

>>383602198
>have a G502
>can't stop spinning the mouse wheel
I just hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the ass in a year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dap5lEuS5uM

>>383636776

I've had the mouse for about 2 years and I can definitely say:

It does not! Still 100% operational, and I guarantee I spin it more than you do :p

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>>383613672
>Got a G400s on clearance at Staples when they discontinued them
I'm do glad I got one before they stopped making them.

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>>383614149
This here. Went from a g402, which was a great gaming mouse, to the g900 when it was on sale recently and totally love it. The shape took a bit of getting used to, but now I love it. The buttons and scroll wheel feel amazing, the response is no different from a wired mouse, and it really doesn't need to be charged often. I love it

>>383604113
>>383635175
I also have this one and would recommend it as well, also there's a white one that would look nice with your setup.