So does everyone just pretend to like this game because it's

>>383572973
>raaaaaaaaah I'm not enjoying this 1998 FPS, you tricked me again /v/!

>>383572973

in the test chamberrr

>>383573064
The point is everyone still bangs on about this shit like its the greatest game of all time. Max Payne came out like a year later and absolutely shits on HL, and nobody talks about it.

???

>>383572973
The game ia boring now because it became the standard of what 1st person fps's should do. It was revolutionary in it's time; that's with it's rememberd.

>>383573167

HL has more and better platforming and original puzzles, Max Payne is a 3rd person shooting gallery with a good story and minimal platforming and 0 puzzles. Completely different games.

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>>383573167
I have yet to find anyone that goes "best game ever"
The series is great with HL1 being the superior one, but no one is saying it's the greatest game of all time, what're you talking about

>>383572973
When it comes to classic games, people remember how good they were for their time. Half-Life was ground breaking in many ways for video games like the Wright brothers were aviation. We remember these things, not because of how they hold up compared to now (Overwatch, Titanfall, Passenger jets, unmanned drones ) but because of the groundwork they laid for the future.

>>383572973
I played this game for the first time not too long ago. I grew up on consoles and was playing it in 2017, but still found things to appreciate. I didn't love the game, but I think the level design is fantastic, and even though it may have been outdone by FEAR, the enemy AI was fun to fight and kept the gunplay interesting. Good game.

>>383572973
>When does the fun start?- 8 posts and 1 image reply shown.
1998

>>383573409
>people remember how good they were for their time
This.

>>383572973
It's a shit game just like HL2 and just like 95 % of the games that /v/ likes

>>383572973
>not having fun immediately in HL

I guess something is just wrong with you

I'm playing black mesa atm. Decent

SUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

>>383573167
Are you a fucking retard m8? Max payne was 3 years later.

>>383572973
>So does everyone just pretend to like this game because it's the cool thing to do?
This might blow your mind anon, but people have different tastes. Everyone is not a complete clone of you.

>>383573337
Max Payne has direction. It has an actual story with an actual goal. HL just has you mindlessly walk through the corridors, through some bullshit facility and then outside to another facility. If the guy I'm playing as wants to leave why can't I just go out the way I came in.

MP has fun shooting with shoot dodging and strategically clearing out rooms. HL is just two bullet sponges hitscanning one another until they die and you carry on. No cover, no strategy, just click the bad guy. Half of the levels are just running back and forth until you find out the arbitrary direction you have to go in. They don't subtly guide you through the level with lighting and signposting in the way MP does, it's just shit repetitive level design. It's fucking boring is what it is

>>383573167
unreal came out the same year too but to be fair it was overshadowed by the UT spinoff

>>383573513
black mesa isn't HL, changes a bunch of shit for the worse

>>383573629
I absolutely love how EVERYTHING is a "bullet sponge" to kids now

I have been told that the enemies in quake, half-life etc are bullet sponges......???? I guess they're bullet sponges to you because you constantly take damage from standing stationary, since there's no "take cover" button for you to predicate your gameplay on?

I'll teach you how to enjoy this game:

Move forward and jump.
Once you're off the ground, release forward, hold strafe and move your mouse smoothly in the direction you're strafing.
As you hit the ground hit jump again and strafe in the air again.

Just moving around in HL feels so much better than in 99% of the crap that came afterward that it's impossible not to enjoy the game.

>>383573167
Has anyone told you that your a double Nigger?

>>383573723
only because of quake
also you can't buffer jumps in gldsrc so it's shit

>>383573704
>not knowing the difference between shooting that relies on good aim and strategy like max Payne and bullet sponge standing still like Half Life. I fucking bunny hop around the enemies and they still hit scan you with perfect aim. There's way too much forced damage, half the time it's better to just run past enemies because you waste less health than staying in the room to shoot them

>>383573805
yes max payne relies so much on good aim and strategy....not hero fantasy slowmo shit

the games aren't the same genre of fps and aren't really comparable

if you think HL1 is bad you have bad opinions and are dumb. Everything is a "bullet sponge" to little kids for some reason it's really bizarre...the term was invented for games like borderlands where enemies literally take 3 minutes of sustained fire from the player

>>383573513
Shit game, have to move barrels so you can jump up on pipes to get past the chasm early on.

>>383573805
>bullet sponge standing still

I remember playing half life back in the day and the gunplay was everything but stationary, you have to move, you have to plan, you have to sneak, you have to snipe, you have to use smartly your resources, not stay in one place and sponge.

"What the fuck - why is Half-Life so SLOW? Why am I in this chairlift thing? WHEN DOES THE GAME START, WAAAAAAAAAAAH"

Almost 20 years of this shit.

>>383573629

>no cover
>no strategy

Thank you. Your opinion is noted. Now fuck off.

>>383573919
Don't know if joke but there is such a thing called crouch jumping.

>>383573957
it also comes from people thinking black mesa is half-life

the grunts in black mesa target and fire on you in literally 0.01 seconds. In half-life one, this is 0.2 seconds

so all those epic fights you had with the grunts, moving around, taking different positions and stuff, in black mesa you are forced to just play like its gears of war. you crouch behind a box and pop up to hit them a few times and then crouch again.

It ruins the entire game and people think it's half-life and valve gave it their blessing. Cannot understand why.

>>383573919
fuck off phil

>>383573114
2nd post best post

>>383573805
geez you don't understand the first thing about fps game design
>>383573919
this reminded me of that dsp playthrough years ago

>>383574032
I think I've given the game more than enough time. I'm at some fucking rocky desert place with a helicopter that sometimes drains my health and some stupid tentacle thing. No indication of what the fuck I am supposed to do. This whole game is just blind running through corridors and neither the platforming or the shooting is fun enough to make it worth it.

>>383572973
when you stop being retarded.

>>383574208
I don't think videogames are for you.

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>>383574208
>he hasn't found the vent

>>383574208
>No indication of what the fuck I am supposed to do

lol, today's gamer literally requires handholding. can't play one of the best games ever made because no handholding

if it weren't obvious, traverse the area until you can escape from the fucking helicopter and tentacle somehow, holy fuck

I wish you people never invaded my fucking hobby/passion, you are the normies, you probably use the word "normie" nonstop and you can't play fucking HL1 with a holographic overlay on your screen showing you the direction to go. honestly pathetic.

>>383572973
When you play it on hard mode

>>383574361
>muh handholding

You know there's a thing called good level design, right? You should play Max Payne, it will blow your mind

>>383574492
>max payne has better level design than half-life

i need some kind of meme image of metaphysical mind expansion shit going on in order to actually express how stupid you are

you are complaining that the game didn't hold your hand

>>383574492
What exactly doesn't make sense in the design of black mesa?
>hurrr there isn't a giant penis ejaculating in the direction I must go hurrrr

>>383572973
It came out in 1998, contender for game of the year with planescape torment. just move on, kid

Unreal came out the same year and it was much better.

Oh cool, I'm at a minefield. So I just like quicksave and run in random directions until I get to the other end?

R E V O L U T I O N A R Y

>>383573167
>only enemy variety is bad guys that shoot at you
>best game ever
Yea, it was okay, but fuck off faggot. It wasn't some godly piece of work.

>>383573685
Now Unreal was fucking fantastic
>first time shooting some rockets at Skaarj
>They start actively dodging most of it
That's when shit started to get real.

>>383573629
>Max Payne
>every other room is filled with typical gangsters that all react and play exactly the same, occasionally knocking down some scripted tables that you can shoot dodge over, this continues for 90% of the game
>the only difference in being weapon variety barring a couple of boss characters
>so ungodly linear all detours mostly lead abruptly to dead ends
>typical revenge plot with typical significant other got involved and knew too much so she gets murdered
>evil experimental drug being pushed by big evil corporation
>filled with voice overs in the same deadpan voice the entire game
Woah never heard of that kind of plot before

>>383573383
Op's a sad little bitch that wants some attention so he stirs some shit in a peruvian puppet symposium so he can get some replies so he can ruffle some feathers. He's upset that people appreciate a game long before he was born.
Fpses are so shit nowadays half life still stands better than 99% of them, sadly.

>>383573957
If he did play it was on easy, lots of the encounters have enemy placements that has several of them shoot at you from several directions,at once, or something like a turret or tank that shreds you if you run out of cover too long like a retard.

>>383572973
So do you just pretend to hate this game because it's the hipster thing to do?
When are your parents hiring a babysitter?

Overwatch is better.

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>>383574492
>good level design is when you clear out a room, go to the next door, clear that out, and repeat the process
good taste anon i really see you're really good at video games

>>383574649
if only the game had given you some way to deal with this using the different tools available to you

clearly they just meant you to savescum across

>generation z kids
>literally cannot play a game that is not a railroaded "set piece" experience without handholding

don't ever install doom or quake you will have a seizure

>max payne gameplay
>strategy

LMAO

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>he doesnt want to fly around in a secret goverment base with cool and top secret technologies blastinng ayys and the goverment

>>383575090
why do that when you can jump sideways in slow motion and shoot a guy

and then jump forwards in slow motion and shoot a guy

and then jump backwards in slow motion and shoot two guys

level design.

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>>383573114

>>383574775
>muh nostalgia
>muh generation z

I'm nostalgic about old games too, only difference is i can explain why they're fun. Most shitters seem to like HL because everyone else does and they're afraid to be judged for not liking what's "cool" to like. Same reason you /v/ bums off Red Dead Redemption all the time.

>>383575139
>max payne
can literally BREEZE through the game by just rolling left or right and using the invincibility frames to never die

>>383572973

You had to be there, don't beat yourself up because you're underage b&.

>>383573629
>If the guy I'm playing as wants to leave why can't I just go out the way I came in.
The tram line you rode in on is busted, and random shit in the facility is blowing up anyway so if the tram line did still work you'd probably die on it. Black-Ops guys storm in later with a scorched earth directive, so they're probably parked next to your car by the time you'd make it back.

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>>383573167
>>383573629
>>383573805
>>383574361
>>383574492
>>383575139

>>383575674
How are all the black ops guys so far into the facility so quickly? Which way did they go in? Why can't I leave that way?

>>383575675
source

>>383572973

underage &b

>people born in 1999 are 18

Fuck you.

>>383575812
Helicopters and armored vehicles.

>>383575927
from my experience people born in 1999 or later are mostly useless assholes unless theyre minorities who desperately need money to help their parents

I thought it was shit but then I finished it and started a new game 2 days later.

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>>383573383
Fuck you I'm saying it's the greatest game of all time, just because my first time playing it blew my 13yo mind

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>>383576106
The door they entered the facility with, why can't I go out that way? Because the door doesn't exist they're just lazily placed enemies you're better off running past. Lame.

Why can't I go down here without losing health? G A M E D E S I G N

>>383576685
the military is tracking freeman literally wherever he is. a scientist tells you this

>>383577228
No, the black ops guys get into the facility somehow. How are they so far into the facility so quickly? They're all in a linear path right to to where freeman starts the game. They all just teleported 3 hours into the facility or what? It's fucking stupid

>>383572973
Yes son. Everyone is merely pretending that you are not retarded.

>>383578180
Yes. The cliff is after you're knocked out and are unconcious for an unknown amount of time.

Half Life was the first time they made an effort to make you feel like you were in a movie. I kinda feel sad that most babbies take that for granted now and can't experience how instantly immersive that was back in the day. With every single shooter before that you had a quick cut scene and were just dropped in a room with enemies at the start.

>>383576685
You can go down without losing health. I agree it's difficult but just stop sucking and it will be alright.

>>383572973
the fun starts when you download The Specialists

>>383573337
>HL has more and better platforming
This is not a good thing in a first person shooter

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>>383573114

>>383576685
>Why can't I go down here without losing health?
S T O P B E I N G B A D H O L Y S H I T

>>383575927
11 year old kids who were very aware of your mom's sex life on CoD4 can now legally drink in the US.

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>Can move extremely fast
>Most of the weapons feel good and there are alien ones
>Enemies react realistically
>Fun platforming segments
>Great music

What's not to love?

>>383579037
No, you can't drop down there without losing health. Fucking hell talk about nostalgia. You have to backtrack to the beginning of the level and just happen to find a tiny bit of rock you can land on near the cliff edge. No hints towards it, the level doesn't lead you that way, you have to backtrack and piss about trying to get to the next part.

That isn't fun.

The level after with the lasers was decent, that's one decent level out of what's otherwise a boring game.

Half life fags should play other games, there's way better shit out there.

>>383579767
>HD models disabled

you're good people

>>383572973
blue shift and opposing force are better desu

kinda short though

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>>383576685
>He never jumped down the elevator on Unforseen Consequences

The game's physics are so easy to abuse

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>>383572973

Just watch the greatest speedrun of all time if you have a low attention-span.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtI5HM7GVGY

>>383579886
>Blue Shift
>Better than anything

JJ ABRAMS HALF-LIFE MOVIE IN THE WORKS AAAAH
Better have ryan gosling as the mute freak.

>>383580082
yes it's fun

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>>383580031
>segmented

>>383573167
people that played it at the time. how you say the nostalgia goggles. some experiences where of their time and are now lost to you. bad luck.

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>>383580024
>play black mesa mod
>jump down the elevator
>die

>>383573685
Unreal never really felt right to me. The environments were absolutely fucking amazing and the enemy design was good too but the gunplay and level design really left something to be desired.

I enjoyed the multiplayer more than the campaign which is probably why Unreal Tournament came out just a year or so later.

>>383572973
The fun part is that HL1 aged much better than HL2

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>>383580154

>hating on segmented speedruns

>>383579886
nigga what, Opposing Force has mediocre level design and is just a string of ideas Gearbox had strung together. it's linear and pretty dull; the new content is great though.

Blue shift had better design and was decent, but the trip to Xen was fucking stupid and should never of been there. I liked Xen a lot but blue shift just turned it into a mundane trip that ruined the exotic and alien nature of it.

How do i into half lief without getting headaches 20 minutes in?

>>383572973

Its an experience anon, not instant gratification.

>>383579790
Of course you can.
First random playthrough i found shows it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoV9o6b91Sc
1:49:20
I think you may be raging like a faggot and playing like DSP because of this, making your experience even worse. Next time just punch yourself in the dick instead of posting shit threads like this.

>>383580086
Name one (1) good videogame adaptation.

Literally finished Half Life one week ago for the first time and I found it great. You're full of shit OP

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It's all good to be telling off some fool for failing to get along with a game that's older than he is, but shittalking Max Payne?
Don't shittalk Max Payne.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtI5HM7GVGY

Enjoy.

>>383581421
Read the fucking thread.

half-life 1 is fucking amazing and has aged like wine

>>383581375
WHACK EM!

>>383573485
i want your dick anon. you are so different like the other guys

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>>383574649
Anon, you have to use the snarks to check for mines
Holy fucking shit, how can you be so braindead and unable to use imagination?
You really can't understand a basic concept without a "PROTIP" screen flashing that you have to use an item you just aquired?
I'm sorry for you

>>383574208
>No indication of what the fuck I am supposed to do. This whole game is just blind running through corridors

i really hope this is bait

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>>383572973
>everyone just pretend to like this game because it's the cool thing to do

pic related

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>>383581749
>hmm, a huge amount of games fans are expressing a similar opinion, does that mean that [INSERT GAME NAME] is good?
>Impossible, i have a different opinion, they must be baiting

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>>383581734
You could also just spray the area with gunfire to blow up the mines, iirc.
Players of games these days, I swear...

>>383581573
Don't reply to me ever again.

>>383582004
>anime pic

weaboo negroid's opinions are invalid because you are too biased with games from nippon. From a technical standpoint Nier is trash tier

HL1 is unironically great while HL2 is a vastly overrated, sterile as fuck tech demo experience.

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>>383582139
>using an image that conveys an emotion to react on an imageboard is being a weeb now
I'll tell you more, i despise jrpg and i never played Nier, but if that picture triggers you, have this one instead

>all the levels in Half Life are science related

my dad really got a kick out of this back in 98

>>383582268
Did I stutter?

>>383580031
>gets stuck in a door
>it heals him up to 5000 health

>>383583373
it's a glitch that got discovered not long ago
Basically, the NPC that you had to escort would get stuck and die often in that door, so they made the door deal -1 damage, which increases your health instead of reducing it. Since you're getting negative damage and not healing, it's not capped at 100

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>>383574602
>planescape torment
>game

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>OP in this entire thread
Congratulations. I'm legit mad now.

Just watch Freeman's Mind