TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

>>383570516
pyro update isnt coming until october bucko

>>383570516
this is like the 12th thread this week

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>>383570516
Medic nerf when?
Pyro skill-based buff/rework when?
Spy support-based buff when?
Engineer and Heavy shifting from offense to defense when?
Disciplinary Action and Escape Plan nerf when?

>>383570695
yeah but hey
hey
TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

>>383570516
I'M GONNA PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT

july 29th

>>383571368
How did you guess my birthday

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvHqRyyn4E0

Remind me later on today to make a pyro themed image of Charlie Brown kicking the football. Because that's how these threads feel. like one big fucking kick to my balls. At least they inspired the partyvan to return, tho'

It's either gonna be fucking nothing or something that pisses everyone off.

>>383570516
Coming this Smissmas

how many nights has it been "the" night now?

>>383573536
Those nights weren't "the night" this night is sure to be "the night" beause TONIGHTS THE NIGHT

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>>383573016
>when you realize that you've played all these fucking maps years ago and a flood of memories come in of the old community servers, rock paper shotgun matches where red and blu went all one class without telling the other team which one you picked, and all the laughs that would happen when one team got fucking hosed.

I fucking miss Friday Night Fights. All that video needed was dbheights and it would have been a full listing of some of my favorite customs. Fucking hell.

TONIGHT
I'M GONNA HAVE MYSELF A REAL GOOD TIME

>>383573714
samefagging to add on Cashworks, that map is fucking phenomenal

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>>383573714
>dbheights
>not cranetop

>>383570761
>Disciplinary Action nerf
I don't care if you nerf the speed boost but don't you dare fuck with the massive melee range

>>383573881
Cashworks is terrible. Horribly balanced.

>>383573958
>horribly balanced
Anon, every pl map sucks cock on last point for O. The map is just fine up until then

>>383573897
>cranetop
Good taste, I had forgot about that one

>>383573536
None. Tonight's the night.

>>383573902
you are the same memelords that actually think things like the frying pan have higher critrate arent you

>>383574823
Go take a look at the wiki

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>>383574823
>he doesn't know about the boosted melee range

>>383570761
You should kill yourself

>>383570761
i disagree with both the heavy and engineers being weak on offense. even in highlander the game moves with the heavy, and engineer will topfrag on koth. teleporters are important on offense in attack and defend on second point as well. that said in a class based game i don't agree that they should be equally as useful in every single situation because that defeats the purpose of having inherently imbalanced characters with counters in the first place

>>383575153
also soldier should be switched for demoman, soldier is only powerful in pubs because he is a great pocket class which inherently keeps the medic alive and allows a "team" to do a lot of damage. but a good demoman running stickies is more desirable because he can do more damage. in an ideal team a demoman would be a more important player than a soldier

The Pyro Update has become the Jungle Update which has become the 10th Anniversary Update

See you all in October

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>>383570761
>medic
>soldier
>getting nerfed ever

>spy
>getting buffed ever again after salty DR tears

>>383575138
Not an argument
>>383575153
>and engineer will topfrag on koth
Only when holding, not when PUSHING aka playing offensively. Also Highlander doesn't really count for balance since the game is balanced around 6s. HL can't have a working matchmaking system and is too different from the regular game, so we don't balance around it.
>teleporters are important on offense in attack and defend on second point as well
See, in HL you're always forced to run an Engineer regardless of whether he's actually viable. But in actual competitive play nobody uses Engineer on offense in KOTH because the distance to mid is so short, that picking a slow Scout just so he can give you a Teleporter shaving 1 or 2 seconds off your travel time isn't worth it.
>that said in a class based game i don't agree that they should be equally as useful in every single situation because that defeats the purpose of having inherently imbalanced characters with counters in the first place
Class counters and "being inherently imbalanced" are not the same thing.

>>383576176
>since the game is balanced around 6s
LOL

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Fixed TF2 for you.

>>383576176
>>383576202
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>competitive TF2
What a fucking joke. I'd be suprised if they even had 10 teams at any tournament.

>>383576235
Nooo, my favorite classes!

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>>383576202
Yes, it is. Valve has explicitly stated so.
That's why their new Competitive Matchmaking, which they're balancing the game around, is 6v6 without class limits, and not 9v9 with Highlander class limits or 12v12.

The game IS being balanced around 6s now. Valve's changes to BASE Jumper in collaboration with B4nny confirm that. You think people were complaining about BASE Jumper in pubs?

It's happening, whether you like it or not. Get on board or get left behind, faggot.

>>383576235
No, they just need to do >>383570761.
>remove melee shit
You are the one who is shit if you think Demoknight is in any way a problem. It's literally weaker than just using stock.

>>383576457
He wants Valve to remove the ability for retards to cripple themselves.

>>383576360
I don't give a fuck how successful it is now. Of course a competitive with no official support isn't going to be big.

Point is, Valve are giving it attention NOW. And if you refuse to accept that, everything fun in the game is going to be taken from you by compfags. You have to come to accept the fact and figure out how you're going to fit in the new TF2. Negotiate, like an adult.

>>383576457
Demo meme ahit is removed because it invites trash players to play trash meme weapons and be useless. They are as bad as friendly retards

>>383576552
I've come to accept the death of tf2. Compfags are a cancer. B4nny has helped kill tf2. And valve tf2 team has just proven their utter incompetence

>>383576678
This

>>383576235
>lazily completely remove some unique classes rather than revamping them

man, i love to play a less diverse game

TF2 is perfectly balanced for 16v16 instant respawn

No other game comes close to this level of balance

>>383576176
>a game with 9 classes is balanced around 6s
no? it wasn't even made with 6s as a gamemode

>attack and defend
>highlander
nobody uses engineer on koth in "actual 6s competitive" because there is an established meta and people are scared of new shit, proof being any new weapon is banned indefinitely no matter fucking what. a scout could go engineer and if he wasn't kicked from the game for offclassing (lol) he would dominate the flank and deny roamers effectively. also shaving seconds off is great in a game with communications so yeah, its fucking worth it especially in koth

>Class counters and "being inherently imbalanced" are not the same thing.
yeah tell me about the medic who dominated the sniper across the map. what is it with you defensive shits who take literal facts as an insult? imbalance is something to strive for in a character shooter and isn't inherently a bad thing

>>383576235
Perfect, now it's more in line with overwatch :)

>>383576410
>Valve has explicitly stated so.
source

>>383577193
Never happened. They have stated they are trying to "bridge the gap" between Competitive and Casual in reference to the fact that their Competitive and Casual modes are almost two completely different games.

>>383576862
you only have that opinion because the entire teams you are playing against are composed of the mentally handicapped, those that are "goofing around" and/or children under the age of 12

with people that are versed in the game and trying to do their best a stalemate would occur every time in practically every game mode because of the amount of players on each team

the game is made to be played 12v12 MAX on SOME game modes, otherwise its not even fun to play and you have no input (no -getting high kill death ratio by killing a few stragglers is not input)

>>383577670
>with people that are versed in the game and trying to do their best a stalemate would occur every time

exactly

perfect balance

>>383577103
kek

>>383573398
Why not both?

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>Whose dick did you have to suck to get into Team Fortress?
>I- I don't think they make you do that anymore

Nathan is GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J6ZB-3JUFg

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Hey /v/

yore
ugleh

>>383578852
link?

What's happening tonight?

market gardener is OP

>>383570761
>Engineer
>Underpowered on Offence

It is like you don't WANT to set up the supply line.

>>383579437
Tonight's THE NIGHT

>>383579531
Stock Shovel is best

>>383579824
That ain't the equaliser

>>383579824
>not having a plan to escape

>>383579824
That's a funny way to spell "Disciplinary Action."

>>383579647
TODAY AINT YER DAY

>>383579879
>escape plan
>literally saying "HEY GUYS I'M VERY LOW ON HEALTH AND SHOOTING ME ONCE WILL SURELY KILL ME"

>>383579398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANcqMStDyJk

>>383579948
>stock melee for most classes
>literally having nothing and being proud of this

If you can't see the power of redeploying, boosting team-mates, falling back to medkits, guaranteed minicrits, etc then you might be a moron

>>383573714
you could play them on partyvan?

I want that Sandvich replica but literally no one who has one is selling it

>>383581612
Buy ingredients then.

>>383579824
Even if you're gonna be a snowflake and not use disciplanary action or escape plan, is there ANY reason to use stock shovel over the equalizer?

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>>383573714
>tfw I used the speed buff in ctf_convoy to get into the intel room and laugh like a motherfucker.

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>>383580158
>YOUR WIFE IS NOT REAL
>SHE DIED A LONG TIME AGO

every time.

>>383583237
>tfw intel drops on ground on convoy
>go scout with atomizer and perfectly time jumps to get back to the front of the train

>>383576235
>REE SIXES

>>383579595
>>Underpowered on Offence
Yes. He is not worth picking over better classes in an offensive setting in 5CP, CTF, KOTH, TC, RD, etcetera.
And you only need one on offense in Payload or Attack/Defend (and on certain maps at certain points, it isn't even worth having one at all; eg. Dustbowl stage 1 cap 1 or Badwater cap 1).
>>383577074
>no? it wasn't even made with 6s as a gamemode
That's not the point fuckwit, the point is that 6s is the official competitive mode right now.
TF2 was made with Soldier having 36 reserve ammo. Just because something was that way on release doesn't make it good.
>because there is an established meta
because it's what WORKS, dumbass. Go ahead and try your little heart out building Sentries in the face of intelligent Demomen and Soldiers on koth_product. I guarantee you will not get a single sentry kill.
>proof being any new weapon is banned indefinitely no matter fucking what.
That's fucking wrong, dumbass. Only 24 weapons out of 170 are banned total, none of which are new weapons. Update your info before talking about the game.
>yeah tell me about the medic who dominated the sniper across the map
Again, retard, class counters and imbalance are not the same thing. Class counters are inherently balanced because every class counters one class in one situation and is countered by another class in another situation.
Sure, fuckwit moron, a Medic dies to a Sniper across the map. That doesn't mean that an Ubercharge doesn't make Sniper entirely useless.

>>383573369
>Tfw partyvan is constantly 130+ ping for ms
Where did you fucks set up the server, California? I just want to play some hats...

>>383578852
no u

>>383584857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5iT4aarKg

>>383584438
Europe

>>383570761
The top part is wrong, the game is designed as generalist and specialist, so Soldier, Medic, and Demo always being useful is intended.

Honestly at this point I'd rather just have TF3 with major class rebalancing, a few new classes, and little to no unlocks.

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Surely Thursday will be the night?

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>>383586029
>new classes and little to no unlocks
So Overwatch?

>>383586029
>the game is designed as generalist and specialist
wrong
it is not designed to be that way

>>383586662
Hey I'd like a guy with a plasma gun but giving to the soldier or demo just seems like a bad idea, I dont want them to shoehorn it in. I'd rather have more classes balanced around what designated weapons and abilities they have rather than trying to see Valve fumble around trying to balance the dozens of unlock combinations.

>>383586982
Engie and Soldier already have plasma guns and 2 of them used to be good until they got nerfed into the ground.

is pyro really a woman

>>383587130
>Bison & Pomson are Plasma Gun
Are you underage or maybe just haven't played that many FPS?

>>383587378
What in the blue hell would you classify those 2 as?
Laser guns?
Particle rays?
the point is that is as close as futuristic weapons those classes are gonna get

>>383574823
The DA's range is longer than the eyelander

>>383587130
they also all fucking suck in particle effects and look out of place, fuck that noise

>>383579948
>literally having no idea how to use a weapon

Oh yeah bud I totally whip this thing out right in the middle of the entire enemy team then proceed to run in circles with no clear plan or objective. Gotta go fast.

>>383587378
Medic has TF2's equivalent of the Plasma Gun. It fires a rapid stream of low-damage projectiles.
Spy=Gauntlet. (melee)
Scout=Shotgun. (closerange burst hitscan)
Soldier=Rocket Launcher. (longrange sustained projectile).
Demo=Grenade Launcher. (closerange burst projectile).
Sniper=Railgun. (longrange burst hitscan).
Pyro=Lightning Gun. (closerange sustained "hitscan").
Heavy=Machine Gun. (longrange sustained hitscan).
Medic=Plasma Gun. (longrange sustained projectile).
Engineer=BFG (the level 3 Sentry is a big fucking gun firing projectiles with enormous DPS and a high investment to use it).

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Why Valve. Why?

>>383588014
Syringe gun is more like a Nailgun than Plasma Gun, I really want something to be able to Plasma Climb with

>>383588128
because it was legitimately broken. Ask any Medic who saw a sticky jumper Demo travelling towards them at 10000MPH with a twoshot kill melee equipped and took them out at 90% Uber with almost nothing they could do. It deserved a nerf.

However, I do agree Valve OVERnerfed it. It needs a small buff.

>>383588014
Since the original TF had to use Quake 1's guns as a base, I'm surprised the class who's based on the lightning gun doesn't actually use one

>>383588256
funnily enough, in QWTF they didn't even give Pyro the Lightning Gun viewmodel for its Flamethrower.
They just gave it the regular Grenade Launcher skin.
I see your point, though.
>>383588173
> I really want something to be able to Plasma Climb with
Due to an old bug Medic used to be able to "needle jump" himself and allies with the knockback on the Syringe Gun, actually. They took it out of the game because of how understandably broken it was, but that was there and still is there if you play console TF2.

But yeah, I wouldn't mind being able to plasma climb in TF2. But we don't have to go full on Overshit just to make that possible, we can just do it with an unlock. 9 classes is enough.

>>383588625
I don't remember him being able to do it himself, dI remember you needed another medic to boost you?

>>383589259
I'm pretty sure you only need 1 medic to do it. Syringe jumping was one of the mini games in tf2ware

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>>383585232
Man fuck you guys, didn't want to play with you fags anyways, God. It's not like I actually wanted to relive one of the games I was actually halfway decent at with a bunch if people I call names but secretly enjoy shitposting with.

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>>383590069
Where do you live? I'm in eastern Burgerland and it works pretty good for me despite my ping resting around 130

>>383587193
No, he's Abe Lincoln. Actually.

>>383588247
The medic should complain about the Scotsman's Skullcutter

Recently got back into tf2. last night played a game of thundermountan for the first time in years. Can't help but think of this the entire time https://youtu.be/TxyuQbB3Ryg?t=8s