>Winston is OP now I never expected this to happen, holy shit.

>>383554510
What did they change? I stopped playing months ago.

>>383554985
They made his head hitbox smaller and the cooldown on your Barrier (E) starts the moment you use the ability.

>>383554985
>smaller head hitbox
>CD to shield starts once it's placed on the ground
>various nerfs to tank comps which led to the rise of dive comp

>>383555197 here again.

They also buffed the fuck out of Reaper, making dive comps more viable, and they nerfed Roadhog so it's easier to not instantly die to him as Winston.

>>383555362
Why did they buff Reaper? How were you supposed to counter him anyway?

>he doesnt remember 2x Tracer 2x Lucio 2x Winston meta

We are literally back to day one meta with dive comp. Bravo Blizzard.

>>383556196
Zar, negates all of his damage.

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>>383556232
>the six Zarya comp

>>383554510
>A few threads about 'buff winston'
>Now post about him being op
Fucking stop, kys nobody cares

>>383556431
>the 4 torb 1 hog and 1 mercy on volskaya industries

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>>383554985
>OP
>because his direct counter has been nerfed to shit.

>I never expected this to happen, holy shit.

You new to blizzard games or something? It was bound to be his turn eventually.

What's the point of making a boring character op? Literally jump in and hold your mouse in the general direction of your enemy.
Why didn't they make a high skill character meta, like widow or pharah? I guess at least tracer is in a good spot but it's always the auto aim characters that get buffed.

>>383556232
fanthehammerspam mccree return when

>>383557328
Snipers ruin every single FPS.

>>383557328
>genji

>>383557328
>high skill
>pharah

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>>383554510
*hits you with a fully charged rocket punch, knocking Winston out of the barrier*
*combo into hand cannon*
*hits you with seismic slam*
*combo into hand cannon*
*rising uppercuts you*
*combo into hand cannon*

Nothing personal kid.

>>383557328
I agree with also.
Also, Tracer appears to be the only balanced character in the game that they don't have to change every now and then.

>>383556196
By shooting him
He's slow, a pretty large target for an offence character AND has to be up close to perform effectively

>the best healer in the game has a very low skill floor and relatively low skill ceiling
Fucking Lucio.

>>383558940
Someone doesn't know the full potential of wall riding.

>>383554510
Does he still gets 100-0 by Roadhog or Reaper?

>>383559051
>implying wall-riding is hard to master

>>383556406
>Zarya still has absolutely no counter

How did this go under their radar?

>>383559054
By Roadhog no since he can't even one shot Mercy with his hook.
Don't know about Reaper because I don't play him and don't spend much time reading/watching analysis of the characters.

>>383558431
doomfist isn't even that reliable of a counter for winston
Unless that was the joke

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>>383555197
>reduce head hitbox
>When you can just buttjump

Seriously, you don't need to buff a character just because so many players on sucking shit on the skill floor.

Winston has been the best hero in the game since launch. Double Winston was the whole reason why QP and Comp got multi-heroes banned, because pretty much nothing can stop 2 winstons.

>>383559148
The mechanic itself is easy, but knowing how to execute fast rollouts, positioning yourself to be tricky unhittable asshole takes practice. Also his radius got reduced so positioning maters even more now that you cant just be a healbot in the back

>>383558431

>Wanted another armored up dude especially with a name like DOOMFIST
>Get some african nigger

I wouldn't even care if he was black if he had some COOL ASS ARMOR

I JUST WANTED MORE COOL ASS ARMOR

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>>383559469
The design has been there since launch. It's your fault that you hyped it up so much. I hope you weren't one of those memers who actually thought that Terry Crews would be the VA

>>383554510
I was getting shit on by winston as mcree. I switched to soldier and still barely died to him 1vs1. feels helpless as mcree man. I actually like that he is a genuine replacement for rhine now though. winston + dva = mcree rape.

>>383559595
>a famous and relevant actor showing heavy interest in voice acting a character in a new hot game is a meme

>>383559595

I DONT GIVE A SHIT THEY COULD HAVE GIVEN ARMOR

THINK REINHART BUT EDGY

>>383559168
A good junkrat, reaper, mei, bastion, and possibly mccree counter zarya. Also hanzo's scatter arrow can 1 shot her if she's close enough

>>383559725
He's a living meme, blizzard chose a better va, he sounds more African. Meme crews sounds like your typical American nigger

>>383558431
>*kills you in one combo*
>only way to avoid this is to have a mobility skin useable in air and ready
What we're they thinking?

>>383559725
A famous and relevant actor that will probably want to be paid more because of his star status. Probably wanted to be paid more than Blizzard could offer.

For the love of god Blizzard, don't pull a Bungie and nerf everything to existence and buff Rein

>>383559595
>The Savior
So not all Doomfists are bad guys?

>>383561258
naw, it just means blizzard is telling us that Africa's pariah is a warmonger

>>383561258
Original Doomfist was a good guy and did something major that hasn't be revealed. He left the doomfist as the weapon he used. Bad guys stole and used it.

>>383556232
>he doesnt remember the 6 soldiers meta
WE’RE ALL SOLDIERS NOW

>nerfed Tank meta cause that's what was stopping Winston from being used
>somehow thought he needed a buff even thou they got rid of the problem

Why is Blizzard autistic?

I think the balance now is pretty good save Pharah wrecking everyone's shit.

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>>383554510
no character is truly busted at the moment, at least not by itself (if you can remember McCree and Genji on release)

it's just that he fits into any decent divecomp, be it as solotank with triple dps and 2 heals

whats annoying is that a comp consisting of Winston, D.Va, Tracer, 76/Sombra/Genji/Pharah, Mercy and Zen/Lucio is just unbeatable atm, just look at what the pro players have been winning with recently

personally I really like this meta, to me directly going at it is better than waiting behind the reinshield for an """""initiation"""""

and by initiation I mean a bullshit roadhog hook across 3 corners, god am I glad they killed him

t. flex player turned Pharah/Tracer-main

it's not so much that Winston is overpowered, it's his ability to engage with real damage (Tracer, Genji) and give them cover and openings beats most other team compositions very easily.

The real culprit though is Lucio because he is a 100000% must pick in virtually every composition but he enables dive to succeed with speed boosts.

>>383562804
Man It's so satisfying seeing Genji shitters spam reflect as I zap them. Fuck them.

>>383563692

they really never learn. I told an enemy genji in all chat once that his reflect doesnt block lightning and his entire team laughed at him.

>>383554510
Why do people shill this absolutely abysmal shooter? You think the micro transaction would be enough of a warning on how cancerous it Is. That or the crap "team based" gameplay. Is it the waifu trash you guys crave? Why are mustards so desperate for companionship that they latch onto any game that has any attractive females in it?

>>383559834
Those skin where Rein has an axe are kinda edgy. Plus we don't know Doomfist's skins yet, he'll probably have one with armor.

>>383564239
Micro transactions are just skins you can easily get for free. OW pay model is fairly benign really. The only shitty thing being skins locked behind events.

>>383562465
And Roadhog being worse than useless to the team he's on, since he now charges enemy ults without being able to reliably score kills as the tradeoff.

>hanzo scatter can oneshot sub 500 hp characters

>somehow everyone thinks its fair to nerf roadhog into uselessness

inconsistency out of control

>>383564671
Literally
>it's okay when Blizzard does it
If you think it's "benign" you're retarded.

>>383560040
>more than blizz could offer
Pretty sure that number doesn't exist. Blizz is one of the most successful game companies ever and Overwatch is profitable as fuck. Pretty sure they could hire Trump to be a fucking VA and send a jet made of gold powered by diamonds to pick him up.

>>383558489
Tracer is the most secret OP since the game started.
They wont touch her because of all the whining that will ensue and favoritism.

Winston is only mainly picked because his counters (tanks) all got nerfed, and the game still hates Reaper. So he can literally go in with impunity with his Genji/Tracer pal, he's literally there to distract for either of those two. Nothing about him fundamentally changed from the Tank Meta where he was bottom 5.


>>383564850
Meme arrows are beyond gay. But in Hanzo's defense, he doesnt have much else.

winston , I have found , is really unstoppable with zen discording enemies.

>>383565052
it ain't horse armor, calm down.

>>383564850
>>383565236
are people still bitching about hanzo players?

>>383559834
This here

How fucking incredible would it have been to see rein and doom go head to head? but nope we just get yet another fucking KANG

>>383559054
Reaper even more so with his leech life passive. He's fucking hell

>>383559054
Winston cannot deal with a multitude of characters 1v1. Roadhog is still a hardcounter and Winston can literally do nothing to Reaper or even Bastion.

>>383559469
I'm sure there will be some armored legendary skins.

And thank god too. His default is so fucking lazily designed.

>>383556232
>not 4 hog 2 soldier meta

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>>383554510
>buffing the braindead shitter classes

>>383554510
He was always incredibly good but shitters complained too much about now being able to properly use him and Blizzard buffed him as well and nerfed his hardest counter

>>383564850
Ok well almost twice to cooldown, a third the health, no healing, and require some degree of good aim

>>383557421
this right here. I just want McCree to be good again. He's the only character I enjoyed playing.

>>383557328
Widow was already broken at one point, you didn't even need to wait for her charge all you had to do was spam your fucking zero cooldown zero reload sniper rifle non stop all over the place and get instakill body shots.

>>383560019
wtf is a mobility skin?

Scatter arrow needs to be completely fucking reworked, its such fucking horse shit

Maybe just replace it with a homing arrow

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>>383563692
>go up to genji and start zappin
>he reflects
>he dashes away/wall climbs
>immediately jump towards him and finish him off
>mfw

>>383554510
>pick reaper
>winston is now not a viable pick
wow so hard holy shit
gold scrubs everywhere

>>383569761
tell us where simple geometry man hit you

>>383569902
my fuckin feet doc

>1y+ after release ow is still nowhere near to balanced
glad I dropped this meme game

>>383569761
This shit aggravates me so fucking much, but because every single fucking time I aim at the feet, the arrows fucking go around the person I want to hit. Or back towards me. And more than once, directly in the fucking air, 90 degrees from the ground.

>>383566441
All the classes are braindead shitter classes though?
Maybe not Zarya, fuck up that barrier and you're gone

>>383555362
>buffed the fuck out of Reaper
The only thing they did to him is that he gets healed 20% of the damage he deals.

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>none of the new characters did anything to upset the meta, except Ana maybe
>they're also all dark-skinned; so much for ""diversity""
Flying Mahou Shoujo hero with barrier-piercing lasers when?

>>383565335

yes it is

>>383556196
he does no damage outside of melee range, soldier out damages him at all ranges and can peck him to death before he can move into damage range

>>383560019
>scatter is fine
>doomfisting is fine
>various one or two button kill abilities are fine
>hog is OP, nerf him
They aren't thinking

>>383557328
pharah and widow were both meta at one point. widow was insanely cancer since she made picks for days and had dumb fucking dps potential and pharah was almost unkillable since mccree just got his nerf at that point and soldier still shot beans.

bastion is so fucking easy mode right now, hardest counter to winston yet no one abuses this especially considering only pharah or hanzo can deal with bastion

>>383558489

Because shes ironically the only high skill character in the game. If shitters cant do well with her then you dont see her that often so majority wont complain about her.

Thats the problem with genji, he is pretty high skill ceiling too but retards found you can just spam spacebar and do good enough with him that way.

>>383571439
those other characters dont have reliable 1 shot potential upon landing a forgiving and easy to land hard CC while having massive hp pool

>>383559417

Except standing further away than 4 meters from him.

Winston is pretty shit, he just works in current meta.

>>383554510
>I never expected this to happen, holy shit.
Winston and Lucio were fucking good on release, tard. Winston was always the god of KOTH

>>383557328

You have no fucking idea what you are talking about, little man.

Current meta is based on the most difficult characters to play.

>>383570567

Which is huge because he deals a fuckton of damage. Reaper is perfectly balanced. Pretty much useless outside of close range, teleport for flanks, shifting for getting out if your attack is going poorly.

Also he has the best lines/va and is thd best looking hero in the game.

>>383571772
>scatter is not reliable
Roadhog has to be close and survive the reel in. Hanzo just shoots from anywhere and gets a kill.

>>383570369
Proof he requires skill

>>383556232
>>383556431
>6 Symmetras
Removing multipick was a godsend

>>383565136
Time to grow up kiddo

They wanna maximize their profit. Kaplan is a jew. I'm sure they gave peanuts to their voice actor they got. Negotiations with crews was probably over in a couple of back and forths. Where as crews' pedigree means he can't risk lowering his pay grade just because the internet eante him to be the voice

>>383557328
I'm a Phara main and people who think Phara needs a buff are shitters

>>383571623
I've been doing pretty good with Bastion myself too. As long one realises that turret mode is situational instead of considering it your default stance, you can do a lot of damage with the SMG that's quite close to 76's rifle and survive a lot with all that armour and self-heal on demand

>>383572237
>Roadhog has to be close
Top kek!
>Hanzo just shoots you from anywhere
No, he requires aim and also can't afford to miss because of his massive CDs

>>383554510
>now
He's been OP since day one, you brain dead morons.

>>383562804
Bull fucking shit.

People will literally ask you to switch to either Ana or Mercy if you pick Lucio

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>>383572303
Imagine unlimited pick with her rework
>5 generators and a teleport
>6 turrets constantly up by all 6 of them
>ability to microwave a 200 health character in 2 seconds at full blast

>>383572472
lucio has 200% pickrate in high level esports competitive shit because of speedboost. Mercy and Ana are better healers but if your team is good at picking and peeling, you won't need much healing.

>>383572498
I played Mystery Heroes and we had 4 Syms on defense. 1 of them ended up dying pretty quickly, but the rest of us stayed alive. It was actually horrifying. I cannot Imagine 6 of them.

>>383572472
t. Goldshitter

>>383572498
>someone actually saved my Yen edit
You validated my existence, blessed anon

>>383572498
>play arcade unlimited
>5 symmetra
They are not that hard to kill if you can do it before all the generators are up and even then a good flanker can take out many of them.

>>383572237
hogs hook is like 3 times his effective damage range and usable in most of the games sight lines, scatter arrow is literally luck based, a piece of rock on the ground could completely fuck up the deflect

>>383572438
>hanzo requires aim
OK I give up

>>383573354

>a sniper character doesn't require aim

??? you do know memes aren't a valid representation of real situation?

>>383556232
>6 Wintons on sudden death attack
Literally impossible to lose.