Name a non-Square JRPG that is better than any JRPG Square has done

Anything by Tri-Ace.

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Nocturne

>>383554376
Suikoden 1 an 2

>>383554467
>>383554532
>>383554601
>Chrono Trigger
Sorry, try again.

>>383554376
Lost Odyssey

https://youtu.be/mdwxrQxC8Zw

Shadow Hearts: Covenant.

>>383554376
I can't...

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>>383554376
That was easy.

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>>383554467
>Tri-Ace in charge of making a good game

Reminder that Star Ocean is a terrible franchise and 2 was a fluke.

Nocturne

>>383554981

Reminder that Resonance of Fate is the best JRPG from last gen.

>>383554981
I enjoyed Star Ocean 4.

Star Ocean 2

>>383554981
This honestly. 3-5 are all sort of terrible but playing the jp dub of 2's PSP port was really fantastic. I don't know what happened to make the series wet the bed all of a sudden after it but SO2 is great.

>>383554731
>>383554809
>>383554882
>>383555070
>Chrono Trigger
Sorry, try again.

>>383554656
Chrono Trigger isn't better than Nocturne and also Cross was better than Trigger.

Chrono Trigger wasn't really even that exceptional and aged like milk. It was good by all means but people who put CT on a pedestal are all huge dorks.

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Saga Frontier

Skies of Arcadia Legends

Desu Exuro

>>383555351
>aged like milk
I'm on the Nocturne side of the fence, but don't be a silly nigger.

Radiant Historia

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>>383555367
Care to enlighten me on why it says Squaresoft in the bottom left?

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There isn't one. In my years from Atari to now, Square is the only ones to refine it. Everyone else just rode the jrpg bandwagon hard, and they all were boring as fuck. Square at least knew the value of making a rpg have a good ratio of fun and story. In fact, all the FF-side offs from Square were good, too. The only ones who could beat Square was Square themselves.

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>>383555265
J-Force

>>383555265

Chrono Trigger is incredibly overrated.

>>383555425
Replay the game and try and finish it without emulator speedups I dare you. The final area is a huge chore.

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>>383554376

>>383555351
>Cross was better than Trigger
>Chrono Trigger wasn't really even that exceptional and aged like milk
Get the fuck out of here.

>>383554376
Breath of Fire IV

>>383555476

Cause am an idiot that thought you meant better than FF rather than better than Square Soft.

For my second attempt : Golden Sun

>>383555587
pleb SPOTTED.

>>383554376
Lufia 2 is better than dawn of mana

BOOM

you said ANY square JRPG, go fuck yourself

>>383555595

Hold on anon I'll fix that for you

>Breath of Fire 3

>>383555552
I replay it yearly you double nigger. Even Nocturne has aged more poorly than CT. The camera can be fucked up at times and it makes navigating dungeons a chore. Chrono Trigger is immaculate.

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>>383555524
Name ONE (1) SNES era JRPG with better art direction and music than Chrono Trigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELte7HgL2Y

Dark Cloud 2

Also just due the virtue of hardware limitations, any jrpg released in the past decade that's not utter trash is probably better then square's super early rpg's.

>>383555679
We dont talk about jrps after Squareenix was formed.

>>383555651
Why did you emphasize spotted? That sounds weird.

>>383555797
you said ANY

FUCK YOU

>>383555718
>The camera can be fucked up at times
You know you can reset it by pressing O right?
Nocturne's biggest issue is how fusing is random and you spend ten minutes rerolling for the skills you want inherited.

Disgaea vs. FFT

go!

>>383554376
Terranigma against any of it's Square contemporaries.

Square made my top 3, so I got nothin'.

>>383555746
Earthbound

>>383554376
Phantasy Stars were far more ambitious compared to the Final Fantasy titles of the time, and I feel PS4 really helped define modern JRPGs

Phantasy Star
Lufia
Lunar

>>383554981
Valkyrie Profile, nigga.

>>383554981
i bet your post is worth around 80 points!

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There isn't. Square made Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song. There isn't much competition for that.

>>383554376
Suikoden

Xenoblade Chronicles

>>383554376
Dragon warrior monsters 2

Dragon Quest
SMT
Persona
Earthbound

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>>383554376
Trails in the sky FC and SC

>>383554376
Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold

impossible because Chrono Cross exists.

>chrono trigger beats everything

chrono trigger is overrated as fuck. Radient Historia is better for christ sakes. To answer your question though, Earthbound easily beats all Squaresoft RPGs.

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>>383558658
>Earthbound easily beats all Squaresoft RPGs.

>>383555746
>Earthbound
>Final Fantasy VI
>Secret of Mana

>>383558658
earthbound is hispter's first rpg

>>383558756
Got bad news for you bro, Chrono Trigger is hipster shit too.

>>383555476
After all these years I keep reading Salsa Frontier

>>383554376
Name one role playing game that square has ever made

>>383558658
Chrono Trigger is overrated.

Chrono Cross is GOAT.

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>>383554376
Well that was easy.

>>383559661
I wonder how many people who circlejerk over this game actually played it, or wearing some super heavy duty nostalgia goggles, because it really isn't anything special. While I consider Chrono Trigger the slightest bit overrated it still runs circles around this game. Hell, so do most Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games now that I think about it. Pretty much the only thing SoA brought to the table that wasn't boring shit was the 3D sailing.

>>383555706
my nigger.

BoF 4 wasn't all that bad, and i do admit the visuals were pleasing but something about the game just didn't make it as epic as 3

>>383556024
FFT. Disgaea had way too much grinding.

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Anons recommend me some good rpgs, I already played Mother 1,2 and 3, Lisa: The Painful and Joyful and OFF, tried to play FF but I didn't liked the ATB.

Is Chrono Trigger really that good?

>>383555746
Earthbound

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>reverse-trap MC accidentally collects a lesbian harem and sets off to pull Atlantis out of the sea

Hard pressed to name a better JRPG

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*blocks your path*

>>383554376
The entire Shadow Hearts trilogy for PS2.

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Legend of Legaia

>>383560018
Helps that it and Grandia 2 are almost literally the only rpgs on the system.

Unless you're a rouguelike patrician

>>383560587
FF12-2: Babby's First RPG Edition

>>383554376
what's the best square rpg?

>>383554376
kiseki

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>>383554376
Radiata Stories

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>>383560798
You.

I like you.

>>383561572
>baby's first RPG
>harder than almost any RPG square has made despite being relativly easy in its own franchise

and yeah it's FF12-2, an improvement over an already good game

>>383560412
It has ATB so probably not.

>>383561986
>harder than almost any RPG square has made
Which Square RPG's do you think are harder?

>>383562178
xenogears :)

>>383554376
Xenoblade

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Romancing SaGa 3

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>>383554376
But Anon, Chrono Trigger is still the Platinum Standard that none have yet to surpass. How do you expect this thread to succeed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy0dXl67aFA

>>383561986
>harder than almost any RPG square has made
anon, I am a Xenobladefan, but even I think that this game was very easy compared to other RPGs (well, except for the optional superbosses).

>>383562204
I agree, that was a hard game to "play".

>>383562427
well it's easily harder than the mainline FF games (not counting optional hard mode bosses in XI/XIV)

>>383562427
Even then you just had to farm & create the right gems...

>>383562512
I think you may have been playing Xenoblade wrong.

>>383562541
grinding and equipment salvaging is an option in every rpg

>>383562628
which FF is harder than xenoblade?

I've only not played 2 and 3 in terms of mainline

>>383562427
rpgs aren't hard. stop this.

>>383555746
SMT. SMT II.

>>383562854
?

>>383562987
I love SMT's setting. I just wish the combat wasnt so tedious.

>>383562703
3 is probably overall the hardest mainline FF, it's definitely the most grindy

>>383562703
That's just it: They aren't hard. Xenoblade isn't hard. None of the Xeno games are hard. Final Fantasy isn't hard (though II is hard to get used to, unless you liked Koudelka). If you think there was any difficulty in Xenoblade outside the super-bosses (that just needed prep-time), then you were playing it wrong.

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also Breath of Fire IV

>>383563368
true, ti's still more involved than most square RPGs, so calling xenoblade baby's first rpg is retarded whether you're the guy I was replying to or not

>>383563506
>ti's still more involved than most square RPGs
And which ones isn't it more involved than?

>>383563506
Not. I'm >>383562418

>>383563583
XIV and presumably XI

>>383563891
People stick too much to Final Fantasy and forget all the other JRPG's Square has, especially with Squares more experimental era with the PS1.

>>383563962
well yeah it's their main series

>>383564034
It is the main western JRPG series in general.

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>>383563505
SEQUEL. WHEN.

And why the fuck was Meru so hot when she was a fucking tween?!?! Practically every addition is a panty-flashing delight and dat armor in her Dragoon form emphasizes her lack of pubic hair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmPQCzz481w

Lufia 2 is better than every JRPG Squaresoft ever developed.

>>383563962
Brave Fencer Musashi
SaGa Frontier I & II
Vagrant Story
Legend of Mana
Threads of Fate

>>383564407
Lufia 2 is good. Very good, at that. Chrono Trigger is better though.

Koudelka

>>383564407
>Lufia II
I don't get why people praise it so much, it's a good game but it doesn't hold a candle to any of Square's best titles

>>383554376
Ys Origin

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>>383554376
Phantasy Star 4.

>>383564165
Rose best girl

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FF5 > Trigger > FF4 > Earthbound > FF6 > Mario RPG
Xenogears > FFT > Cross > FF7 > FF9 > FF8
Golden Sun > Mother 3

>>383560798
the game has no sequel

>>383565026
>FF6 lower than the other snes FF games

pure pleb

>>383565080
>FF6 over anything but the steaming shitpile that was Mario RPG
nah

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>>383564780
i had to scroll this fucking far to find Ys in this thread what's wrong with you people

>>383554376
>Name a non-Square JRPG that is better than any JRPG Square has done
Planet Escape: Tournament.

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>>383565026

>>383560018

Nigger, what game did you play? Shit was pretty ambitious for its time, rendering most of its content and acting using the in-game engine. Was a pretty sizeable game, too.

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>>383563505

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Wild Arms

>>383565252

Ys is fucking boring

>>383564581
Chrono Trigger is good. Very good at that. Lufia II is better though.

>>383562781
>posting GS1
>not the sequel that improves in everyway

>>383565252
People are trying to post good games, not complete trash.

>>383560798
I like the art where Noah drop-vags me in the face

>>383563505
I love that game but it's not even close to topping Square at its best.

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>>383555746
Seiken Densetsu III

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWhXqU5keJA&index=9&list=PL4649F0DBF0FC09E3

>>383566008
it's literally Finfal Fantasy with wings

>>383554376
Squaretrash hasn't made a single notable title. Period.

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>>383555746
Grandia 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awyPX0BHha0

>>383566183
>Xenogears
>not notable
m8

>>383566231
>even bothering replying

>>383558420
Are you me?

Shadow Hearts Covenant

>>383554376
Taito

>>383565252
Ys games are trash

>>383566061
This here. Much better. And a lot more replayability than chrono trigger.

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>>383554656
>ATB better than Press Turn

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>>383554376
Easy. Capcom nearly perfected it.

Dragon Quest 3
Dragon Quest 5
Paper Mario
Paper Mario TTYD
Earthbound
Mother 3
Persona 4
Xenoblade Chronicles

The Genius of Sappheiros

>>383555746

Terranigma

>>383554376
Xenoblade Chronicles

>>383568448
>Press Turn
meme system

Mario and Luigi super star saga

I mean the fact you can defend yourself makes it better than 98% of turn based jrpgs

>>383554376
Megadimension Neptunia VII

>There will never be a new good secret of mana /seiken densetsu game

>>383554376
anachronox
just because they own it now doesn't mean they owned it when it released

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>>383565026
Hard to believe, a correct opinion on /v/.

>>383565252
ys is arpg not jrpg

>>383571768
Still not a JRPG, despite being heavily influenced by them

>>383555582
Probably the most overrated JRPG of all time, parroted endlessly by Kotaku retards

>>383558420
Dragon Quest is square dummy cuz I was gonna pick it too

>>383572276
You're wrong. I hate Jap shit and this game is amazing.

>>383565747
The only correct answer.

>>383571675
Dont think about it. It'll only depress you more

>>383569748
Better than ATB, a garbage system.

>>383554376
The problem with Square is all of their good JRPGs are one-offs.

>>383565747
I played Wild Arms 3 first, and enjoyed the hell out of it. Would I enjoy Wild Arms 1 and 2?

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>>383554376
TALES OF PHANTASIA YOU FUCKING SHIT EATERS!

>>383573784
yeah and the series end at 3. 4 is fucking shit

>>383574021
I find tales of destiny is much better.

>>383574021
>>383574408
Phantasia is ok. Destiny is pure shit. Eternia is where it's at, the only Tales title to come close to Square JRPG output.

>>383554882
better not worse silly

>>383554376
Square is pretty shit
Anyway
Paper Mario
SMT
Chrono
Suikoden
Skies
Tales
BoF
Fantasy Star
Pokemon
Digimon
Mother
Golden Sun

What is with all the earthbound answers, is it the new flavour of the month or some shit, the new thing that's cool to say you like ?

>>383575745
After finishing that nobody-has-to-die-game we don't talk about anymore anon decided to play the title that inspired it. Despite not getting far and not liking it much, anon still decided to shill for it because MUH GAMING CRED.
I fucking hate people who talk about Earthbound nowadays
>lol so wacky all JRPGs were serious and bad, but Earthbound broke the mold!
Thanks for proving your lack of knowledge or understanding, retards

>>383554376
dark souls

>>383573583
must be why atb is a million times more popular

>>383574021
I love the snes version too but it has to be the PS1/PSP version, it added so many things to the game that it fucking blew my mind.

Why can't remakes be like that anymore?

>>383555265
>using Chrono Trigger to shitpost

How dare you

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>>383558482

Excellent taste. Also love the 3rd and Zero.

>>383554376

xenoblade chronicles

>there are still people not accepting cross was a shit sequel
Grow the fuck up

>>383554376
>Name a non-Square JRPG that is better than any JRPG Square has done


Persona 2
Etrian Odyssey games
Demon's Souls
Atelier Totori and Meruru
Devil Survivor
etc

There's plenty

>>383575745
New flavor of the month? It has been like this for years now. You just have to beat those people back reminding them how limited the games mechanics are compared to other JRPG's so they finally pipe down once more.

>>383575724
>Fantasy Star
>Fantasy

>>383575556
>Destiny is pure shit
The mere fact that Destiny introduced manual mode and the now standard way of using artes make it better than phantasia, gameplay wise at least.
But I agree that Eternia is superior.

>>383554532
Show feet.

>>383575724
Chrono is Square you retard.
>Golden Sun
My bad, I should have known you were baiting.

>>383554376
You might as well have had this thread be "Name a better JRPG than Chrono Trigger"

The answer is was given 3 posts in, Suikoden 2.

>>383554376
Are we talking about Square Soft? Then it is anything by Enix Co.

>>383568448

>let's reward the player for hitting an enemy's weakness, but punish them for having shitty RNG

Press turn is fucking trash.

>>383554376
Rogue Galaxy, if you forgive the lame ending.

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>>383558658

>Chrono Trigger is overrated
>proceeds to jack off Radiant Historia and fucking Earthbound of all games

>>383554376
Square has the SaGa series, tough to compete with that.
There are some titles that can go toe to toe with SaGa though, maybe they won't beat the general overall design and battle system but sometimes they perform better in single aspects, Metal Max has consistently better open worlds, Lunatic Dawn has better practical roleplaying, Growlanser has usually better focus on nonlinear storytelling and so do a handful of other games like Zill O'll.

That said, outside of the SaGa franchise all the other Square games aren't really anything special and get BTFO easily by people like TriAce, Artdink or even certain NIS games.

>>383554376
Terranigma
Dragon Quest V

Bloodborne
Dark Souls

>>383555595
arent all the breath of fires on the table. last i heard square only did the publishing and capcom did all the development.

>>383582964
The first two were pretty lousy, and Dragon Quarter may as well be from a different series entirely.

Literally every game in the world is better than FFXV

>>383556093
This one's a true competition. It wasn't released in US back then so hardly anyone holds nostalgic value towards it, but the same can be said about Chrono Trigger and Europe.


I'd wager Terranigma is the best non-Square competition of the SNES era.

>>383581661
What's so bad about Golden Sun?

>>383555679
>Lufia 2

Great game probably my favorite SNES game

>>383584395
Not bad, but certainly not better than every Square game ever made.

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>>383555351
>cross better than trigger
>hurr durr here's 30 characters but you can only realistically use 2-3 at a time
fuck off shitter

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>>383584395
the biggest problem is the awful writing. The gameplay is alright, but it's very lacking in challenge. Normal encounters and not-final boss fights might as well not exist.

>>383554376
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls 1-3
Bloodborne

>>383574408
Destiny PS1 is absolute Crap.
Among the worst RPG i played.

>>383554376
From persona 4 onward
Valkyrie profile

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>>383565078

>>383585784
That looks so unbelievably cheap and uninspired.

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Lost Heroes
Super Robot Taisen
Dragon Quest V
Vanguard Bandits
Soul Hackers
Phantasy Star IV
Star Ocean 2
Ephemeral Phantasia
Digital Devil Saga
Shining Force CD
Xenoblade Chonicles
Dragon Ball Z: Buu's Fury
Disgaea 3
Monster Seed
Radiant Historia
Etrian Odyssey III

Square is fucking trash, save for all the franchises they refuse to localize or bring back.

>>383585841
Eh, it wasn't that bad.

>>383569615
MY NIGGA

>>383565252
Origin is garbage, anon.