>Oh fuck, the dragonborn just defeated me in the realm where

This game was just about OK but they've been milking it like hell. I don't get it.

>>383525464
I remember when it came out. It was fantastic in 2011, but it hasn't aged very well.

To be fair, he didn't expect the Dragonborn to reach it, afterall he has to die to get in there or get a Dragon.

>>383525357
>>383525575
I honestly never even made it to the end. I've tried multiple times and just get burnt out. the dungeon design, the quests, the combat; it's all so fucking bland.

>>383525357
Didn't he go there to amass power faster for the rematch?

I mean isn't his whole thing eating souls? He'd need a direct line of them he could only get there so it makes since he'd risk it.
Better than being eternally beat down and trapped in Nirn.

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>>383525575

>>383525357
>Not just saying HAHAHAHA FUCK YOU DOVAHKIIN! and eating the world while he sleeps

Alduin's retarded

>>383525919
Yes yes there's lots of draugr

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still relevant?

>>383525575
>It was fantastic in 2011
Only for the first few hours. Then you discovered how shitty the guilds and side quests were.

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>dropped no loot of any kind on death
>shitty boss fight in general, you nust shout with some retards and whack him a bunch while he doesn't fight back
>your only reward is more or less the ending to NGE where a bunch of shitheads stand around clapping while saying 'congratulations'

>>383525801
Yeah, Alduin went there to eat them souls and come back stronger in order to start the end of everything. It didn't count on the Dragonborn chasing him to the one place where he was vulnerable.

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>>383525575
Can the aging meme fucking die already? The game was always shit, especially on release.

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>>383526171
>nobody even gives a shit when you get back to skyim aside from mods or the occasional guard that very rarely says hey thanks dragonborn.

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>>383526338
>that same guard will then shit down your throat for shouting in public

>>383525575
Hello underage
>>383526073
Absolutely. Skyrim was only good between the hours of midnight and 6am on November 11th 2011

>>383526206
Fuck off. The whole world was talking about Skyrim when it came out. The hype was ridiculous.

>>383526050
Always relevant. Alduin is a prime example of how not to write a villain. The lore behind him builds him up to be almost a god and in-game he's an utterly incompetent fucking oaf.

>>383526445
Skyrim came out 37 years ago, Anon. Feel old yet?

>>383526439
Just because you saved the world doesn't mean you can break the law.

>>383526572
The dragon fight I ever fought in a game that I somewhat liked and expected of a dragon to be was Grigori in Dragon's Dogma

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>kill dagoth ur
>e-e-excuse me sera, i dont know how to talk to important people like you but i just want to say thank you for everything you've done.
>Close the oblivion gate outside kvatch and drive out the daedra from the city
>I-its you! the hero of kvatch! This is truely an honor!
>Kill the dragon thats laying waste to skyrim and is threatening the world itself
>No lollygagging...

>>383526472
0/10

>>383526472
with a few exceptions(mostly modders who make characters to fap to), /v/ hated skyrim on release. The amount of Morrowind threads was ridiculous. You are definitely new here, and I would guess cant even drink yet.

>>383526650
>I havent heard any laws about... whatever that is you're doing. but ill lock you up if i have to!

Its not even against the fucking law.

>>383526697
>ywn play Dragon's Dogma for the first time again

That was a hype as fuck fight though.

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>>383526727
I dont see anything wrong with that anon.

>>383526820
>You are definitely new here, and I would guess cant even drink yet.

Anon, if you were 16 when skyrim was released you can now legally drink in the US.

Skyrim was an is still shit. Only enjoyment I got from it was due to heavy modding.

>>383526445
>>383525575
>>383526073
every TES game was bad anons. Skyrim, Oblivion, and that shity mud of shit Morrowind. All of them. Bethesda can't make good games, just look at Fallout 3/4.

>>383526938
It really was. And then they come out with Daimon, and he was cool to fight as well. Especially getting perfect blocks on him.

>>383526002
>Not just having a cup of coffee instead of saving the Dragonborn, then getting killed of the Dragonborn
Alduin was a mistake.

>>383525357
>you are a super guy and kill god
literally every generic jrpg plot

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>>383527187
Anon im sure you're mistaken. You clearly need to buy the season pass for fallout 4 and you will see just how amazing it is.

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>>383526050
>Pull this shit then Capcom shows you how to do it correctly a year later

>>383526697
Fuck that, it had more running and cutscenes than fighting.
And I'm still mad at that pawn grinder bridges running sequence.

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>>383526439

>>383526572
>he thinks Alduin is a "villain"
Read some ingame books before you try and have opinions

>>383527390
rip

>>383525357
>actually playing the main quest

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Did they even try with him? I mean, this is literally one of the most generic evil dragons I could possibly think of

>>383526572
>almost a god
before the retcons he was a god

>>383527586
Visually I think he was fine, gameplay wise he was a fucking disgrace like pretty much all dragon fights in Skyrim are.

I've never actually beaten Skyrim. I always get bored by the combat and stop soon after starting? Should I force myself through it or say fuck it?

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>save the world by killing an immortal Eldritch abomination
>Still not allowed in the bunkhouse
Fuck you at least jewtits sleeps with you after killing Grigori

>>383527624
hes a force of nature honestly. he eats the world to bring it into the next kalpa. hes not a god. hes just a tool.

>>383526050
Wasn't eating the world and being the literal embodiement of apocalypse his true nature/purpose and then went "fuck it, I'll make this bitch mine"? Because that's what I understood from it.

>>383525575
>it hasn't aged very well
It has a thriving modding community that have continuously improved every aspect of the game for 6 years.
If that's not aging well then I don't fucking know what is.

>>383527371
Dragon's Dogma is one of the only games where dragon fights actually felt like fighting dragons. Not even Souls games quite hit the mark because they're still hit the legs till it dies but they at least get it having the air advantage correct.

>>383526820
>/v/ hated skyrim on release
/v/ hates everything popular on principle, when you've been here long enough you'll realize using /v/ as a definitive touchstone for quality is a huge mistake

>>383527917
The trouble with souls games is that you essentially kill them by stabbing their feet until they die
You had to nail Grigori in the heart with a ballista multiple times before he was grounded if I remember

>>383527624
To be fair, most tes historians had no idea what Alduin really was, why he could laps through time, or why he is really Talos out of time

>>383525575
Tfw you liked vannilla skyrim more than modded.

>>383527884
Wow modders are actually just as bad as casuals
>Muh nude and rape mods
>Muh nerd culture mods

>>383527917
Storm King, Midir, Ancient Dragon, and Sinh take little to no damage when hit in the legs what are you talking about? Kalameet and Guardian dragon are the only examples I can think of where that strategy works. Either way Grigori is just a boring cutscene fight.

>>383528437
Because you just stab souls dragons to death
In dragons dogma you have to shoot it with ballistas and shit.
Imagine if a bug took down a human by stinging the person to death. That's how souls dragons feel

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>>383526650

>>383528437
Theres other dragons than grigori in DD fool
Weak stop is their chest, they can turn your pawns against you, and they fucking fly around to shake you off

>>383526050
When I read the bit about how he doesn't wrong the player in a personal way I thought that at least Autumn killed your dad then realized what a downward spiral Bethesda is in when it comes to villains
Will the villain of TES VI just be introduced hastily in the last quest?

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>>383527884
Modders have been quitting left and right. It's the reason why remastered edition has barely any mod support even though it fixed alot of the problems the modding community has been complaining about.

>>383528437
Not Grigori, the regular dragons.

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>>383527586
Like most western designs, they focus too much on shitty little details instead of having a strong silhouette.
Like, this is a big monster that flies around a lot. I'm never going to be able to appreciate these intricacies, he's just going to look like a big spiky thing most of the time.
Grigori does the dragon thing right. He's basic in terms of details, but his silhouette is regal and imposing, making the player truly feel small, like they're in the presence of a god. Alduin feels no different from any other dragon in Skyrim.

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Well it's finally time for the final battle. Just one thing first. You know that dragon on top of that mountain who's been helping you the entire quest? The dragon that taught you how to use your powers and figure out how to kill the world eater? The dragon that helped the previous generation beat him in the first place?

Yeah, fuck him. Go and kill him or we won't help you prevent the apocalypse.

>>383528674
>>383528789
Considering Grigori is the only praised fight that's what I assumed you sheep meant

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>>383525575
>I remember when it came out

>>383527917
The weirdest thing is that it seems like FROM know they can't quite do dragon fights
The dragons are always wounded or off form in some way when you fight them

>>383528262
>>383527804
He was part of the AKA oversoul.

>>383528952
YEAH I WAS MAD

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>>383528968
>sheep
Anon stop being so grumpy.
The souls games do not have good dragon fights.
t.soulsfag

>>383529056
Well, ever since DaS they can't really do any fights properly so I'm not surprised

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>>383526050
>Managed to tether himself to the Heart of Lorkhan without having to research Kagrenac's tools for years
>Was able to survive a battle with three powerful Chimer lords and one wounded Nerevar before he had even begun to tap into the heart's power
>Successfully reclaimed two out of the three tools from the Tribunal, ensuring an eventual win by denying them regular access to the HoL
>Developed and unmatched bond with the heart, only wanted the final tool to complete Akulakhan
>Bypassed the ghost fence with ingenious use of blighted cliff racers and underground tunnels

It's a miracle he didn't win.

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>>383525575
>Fucking Skyrim came out 6 years ago

>>383525357
Alduin could be defeated because he wasn't actually doing what he was supposed to. His purpose is to devour the world when the Kalpa ends. Instead, he wanted to rule the world and institute Dragon supremacy. That's why the last dragonborn was able to defeat him. If he was in his world devourer phase, absolutely nothing could stop him. Look at how casually he fucked up the demon that would become Mehrunes Dagon

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>>383528185
Grigori:
>Tears down an entire fortress chasing you
>You have to dodge his fire while trying to get across a bridge twice to get to a higher vantage point
>At that higher vantage you fire a ballista at his heart to try and ground him, he then charges at you on the tower mouth first
>You don't get eaten and instead grab and hang on to his back while hes flying hundreds of feet in the air, climb your way up his back, and strike him at the back of his heart
>You both fall into an arena where you have a final combat
That final combat can include
>Climbing onto either his chest or back to hit the heart from either side
>Smacking his head to interrupt his fire breath
>Causing enough damage to his wings to prevent him from flying
>Causing enough stagger to his arms to save party members
>If he does fly again either shoot him down with your own arrows or ballistae around the arena
And in general DD's combat system lending itself alot better than most to fights of this scale.

>>383529264
yet still a /v/irgin

>>383529264
Not only do I feel old, I already feel the roting of my body.

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for some reason, every time i go into dialog with this npc, they say something that sounds stupid and suddenly get hit by a lot of lightning while i get a bounty

it happened at an inn, it happened at the greybeards palace, it happened in the akaviri temple
does she have a dragon shout that is causing this or something? i'm so confused

>>383528437
>Either way Grigori is just a boring cutscene fight.

did you actually play the game?

>>383529013
Release Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
WW: November 11, 2011

PlayStation 4, Xbox One
WW: October 28, 2016

Nintendo Switch
WW: Q3 2017

PSVR
WW: 2017-2018

What launches am I missing? I dont remember all the times its launched.

>>383529556
He probably sacrificed his beloved

>>383529310
What changes would you add to the sequel to make it GOTY?
Assuming they kept the combat intact.

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>>383529264
>4chan is 14 years old

>>383528437
>Grigori is a boring cutscene fight
>When the actual fight where you kill him and do the majority of the damage to his health bar out of the entire thing is 100% gameplay
Also theres only two extremely short cutscenes in the sequence prior where you just trying to get the fucker to stay on the ground. Not to mention the presentation of the entire thing is S tier.

>>383528921
Girgori shits on Alduin so hard it's not even funny man. I will never forget the first time I fought him in the Tainted Mountain.

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Every fucking escort quest.

https://pastebin.com/V1SLdumj

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>Replaying Skyrim
>Get to Windhelm
>"Oh right, the guy with all the stupid shit in his house is a murderer."
>Find his locked chest full of incriminating evidence
>Can't be picked
>Try to pickpocket him
>Key isn't there
>Try to kill him
>He's a protected quest NPC

>>383527917
HELL NO, minor dragon fights in dd were just you hugging/climbing on the dragons chest and mashing square, for grigori you just pop a stamina potion, climb up to his weakspot and mash square. Dragons dogma dragons had some cool special moves like being able to corrupt your pawns, but fighting them was shit because they all had their weakspot in their chest and had barely any ways to stop you once you started wailing on it. Dont even get me started on the ur dragon. If you didnt have to damage their stupid weak spot they would be top tier.

The only dragon fight that has ever made me feel like I was fighting a dragon is midir in dark souls 3. The best way to fight him is face to face, the best way to damage him is to hit his head, and if you do enough head damage you can slay him with a critical hit for ultimate satisfaction.

>>383529551
I think it's Tiber Septim smiting her for her insolence.

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>>383525357
>Concept of time
>Killable

>>383529704
Spice up the liveliness of the world a litte. It has a perfect amount of adversity and enemy variety but the severe lack of normal people going about day to day life makes the world feel dead (of course this might have been intentional)
Write the entire story with the same amount of quality as the final acts of the game. Dragon's Dogma is one of the biggest examples of not caring what the fuck was going on story wise until the last 8-10 hours where it picks up heavily.
And then just general sequel things like new monsters, abilities, vocations, etc. Ironically enough the setting for DDO where the dragon of the cycle essentially tells the Seneschal and the cycle to sod off would be a good premise for a sequel.

>tfw no matter how many mods you put in Skyrim it will never fix the utterly dogshit quests

>>383530141
>playing skyrim for the quests

>>383530290
What else do you play it for excluding the plethora of sex mods.

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>>383525357
>Skyrim features dragons
>they're actually wyverns

Why is this allowed?

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>>383529264
And it came out again last year
And its coming out again this year

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>Souldrones come out of the woodwork the moment someone namedrops it
All according to keikaku.

>>383527330
no Todd, thanks but..WOAH, A GUN. C-Calm down there mate.

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>>383530473
I remember this meme.
It was a good meme.

>>383528952
I actually loved that. It was the only moment in the game where if felt conflicted

>>383530473
Wyverns are a type of dragon. A shitty, pathetic kind, but still technically dragons. They're like gnats compared to goliath beetles.

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>buy Skyrim CE
>a huge fucking box, couldn't get more excited to get back home and open that shit up
>"high quality map" is printed on wallpaper and when I try to iron it, it turns into a fucking mess
>Alduin statue is heavier than its base and is constantly falling over, lifting it back hurts your hands because its spikes are hard and sharp as fuck
>can't look through the art book to avoid spoilers, still after all these years haven't finished the game, thus being unable to open the book
>The Making of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim DVD is full of broken promises and Todd's lies

The last CE I've bought.

>>383530410
Tbh? I like roleplaying
Maxing all the schools of magic (xcept destruction) + sneak and playing a pacifist sneaky mage is the best way to play the game

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>>383529704
Add the moon

>>383527875
Yes

He got a massive depowering because he wasn't doing his damn job

>>383526073

>>383530592
How tf would you be conflicted?
>Awesome dragon mentor
vs
>We're your servants!! But oyu have to do what we tell you

>>383530687
>Endless Tower
I'm assuming that became Post-Game Everfall.

>>383525575
>but it hasn't aged very well.
it's been close to 6 years, and has aged this horribly. *claps for bethesda*

Skyrim is like mummy that Todd Howard found on expedition in Egypt, but he liked her so much he stole her and now he keeps fucking her in his living room.

>>383526050

Imagine how great Kirkbride's TES lore could be if Bethesda actually had competent fucking writers?

Just imagine.

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>>383530473
>>383530661


fuck off with this meme

>>383530913
>Kirkbride
>good
Do you even C0DA anon ?

>>383529556
Not that guy but DD had two major problems. First, while the huge monsters and different hit locations was a great concept, the implementation was ass and climbing was broken and retarded, so it was wasted to a large degree.

Second, there was no balance and very rarely did it present a proper challenge. Everything was either impossible unless you wanted to spend an hour hacking away at one enemy, or a complete cakewalk.

In my case I ended up steamrolling over Grigori so yeah, it was pretty much a gimmick/cutscene fight, and even if it hadn't been, my first point would still have made it not great.

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>>383526050
Still relevant. I've been replaying Skyrim recently and I thought it was cool to naturally see Alduin in the overworld reviving dragons (outside of the main quest) but then he just fucking flies off. Makes no attempt to attack or fight back, he priotizes reviving a couple dipshit dragons as opposed to killing the only living dragonborn.

I think they could have at least made him visually different to the other dragons. They could made him a true four legged dragon like pic related, would have made him more menacing. Wyverns just look goofy. They look goofy flying, they look goofy walking, they look goofy when you communicate them.

>>383530924
Fighting rats, bats and a deformed deer medieval times sure were brutal.

>>383531192
Why didn't they make Alduin that crazy-huge ingame?

>>383530924
So fighting giant rats is actually canon irl

>>383527724
Dont do it. The gameplay is bland (without mods) and the story sucks. There are much more fullfilling time sinks

>>383531079
>In my case I ended up steamrolling over Grigori so yeah, it was pretty much a gimmick/cutscene fight
Did you overlevel or intentionally dragonforge yourself early? Did you look up on a guide how to fight?

First time I fought Grigori it really felt like a fight of epic (I hate that this word has been overused to death and now feels cringy to use, because it is applicable to this case) proportions. I played as a ranger, but it was still a challenge and tested the skills I had been building the whole game.

>>383531275
consoles

>>383525728
You didn't miss a god damn thing. That final mission in Sovengarde was garbage.

>>383530913
Kirkbride is just as much cancer as Bethesda is, just of a different kind
CHIM is a retarded idea

>>383531458
just like everything else in skyrim

>>383530924
I can spot the shitter in this party, probably died before killing the rat.

>>383531437
>>383531192
Nah, just laziness imo. Everything bad about Alduin is really a sign of how lazy the dev team was, he feels absolutely the same as every other dragon and is barely recognizable as anything different.

>>383531192
>Why didn't they just fly eagles to

just play enderal you dorks

>>383531478
But at least he cares about TES, he's just overly autistic about it.

>>383531647
that dude in red on the ground looks really high

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5MyNFfh7Ns

This is how you slay a fucking dragon.

Grigori and Drakes can only killed be attacking the glowing heart on their "chest"
Wyrms' heart is closer to its belly
Wyverns' heart is on it's back and can be very challenging because it likes flying as much as Azure Rathalos
Cursed Dragons have their weakspot also on the chest except for Dark Bishop's pet
Ur Dragon is the most frustrating in my opinion, it has hearts located all over it's body and you can hit those and damage Ur until those hearts are destroyed. Then you do no damage, and the hearts can be located on places normally difficult to aim at or to high up for Red vocations like on the front wingtips. Very trivial fight for staff users.

>>383531697
His ""caring"" led to shit like C0da
It really says a lot when bethesda has developed better lore than you

>>383531079
>Not that guy but DD had two major problems. First, while the huge monsters and different hit locations was a great concept, the implementation was ass and climbing was broken and retarded, so it was wasted to a large degree.

climbing was fine, dragons shaking you off drained so much stamina only liquid vim could keep you on, ogres would crush you if you stayed too long, cyclops would just grab you off and throw you, griffins would only be able to fly if you weren't on them(and if the griffin is flying it's super hard to beat so you want to prevent that), etc.

>Second, there was no balance and very rarely did it present a proper challenge. Everything was either impossible unless you wanted to spend an hour hacking away at one enemy, or a complete cakewalk.

everything before post-game was too easy I agree, as harsh as the level curves could be it was way too soft if you played the game properly because you'd steamroll almost everything if you stuck to level appropriate content instead of exploring on your own

post-game, BBI and anything you discover early on your own (like going to the abbey at night or going to the shadow fort as your first wrymhunt quest, encountering the golem and the drake, etc.) avert this.


>>In my case I ended up steamrolling over Grigori so yeah, it was pretty much a gimmick/cutscene fight, and even if it hadn't been, my first point would still have made it not great.

the first time I fought grigori I could tell he was far beyond any other dragon in the game so far and even in the post-game the dragons were easier than grigori (wyvern and wyrm), but I was like level 65 from doing almost every quest I could get my hands on before grigori so it was a cakewalk

the beauty of an open world game is that people who rushed to grigori at like level 36 got an insanely hard battle because they were way under what they were supposed to be, so you essentially choose how hard the boss is.

>>383531927
HOW CAN DRAGON BOIS EVEN COMPETE?

>>383531860
That's literally gay, you retard.

>>383529605
>What launches am I missing?
you're missing something but it ain't launch dates. anyone who yells out they can remember back 6 years, like it is an achievement is an underage faggot.

>>383531079
>it was pretty much a gimmick/cutscene fight

oh right, to add on to my (>>383531964 ) other point, no it wasn't, grigori had like 10 health bars dude. there was plenty of boss fight in that boss fight.

>>383532036

No shit, asswipe.

>>383526472
that does not make it good retard

>be alduin
>Flyan around burning and eating shit
>Realise there's a dragonborn coincidentally alive at same time as you
>Go back to nordhalla to chill
>Wait for dragonborn to die of old age
>Go fuck up nirn again
Why wouldn't this work, lorefags?

>>383532102
wtf is that on the the heads of the giant flying weasels ?

>>383532192
>Thinking Alduin would act competently
Yeah thats where u fucked up

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By Picasso I think

>>383532192
>Why wouldn't this work
because todd howard is a hack

>>383532290
Fear the jew weasels

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I'm pretty much done, should I post my Saint George collection ?

>>383528921
His face looks retarded though.

>>383526073
This. Every single guild quest was WOAH HEY YOU'RE THE FUCKING CHOSEN ONE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM, it was all too melodramatic for its own good.

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Forgot this one

>>383531860
So, QTE and a cutscene in gameplay?

>>383528781
The reason the special edition doesn't have mod support is that it doesn't have SKSE yet, which is a prerequisite for doing anything complex. The original still gets new mods every single day. And even if it wasn't, 6 years of mod support is infinitely more than what most games get. The only games with bigger modding scenes than TES are Doom and Half-Life.

I just want to know how high that anon's standards are. If Skyrim has aged poorly, what has aged well?

>>383531647
>>383531771
why do people in these old paintings always look so disinterested in what's going on in the paintings

>"guess i'll kill this dragon now, whatever."

>>383526206
Let me try to explain aging for you autists that still don't get it.

Aging essentially means
>graphics were impressive and/or a significant draw at the time of release, but over time have become less impressive due to continually developing graphics (see almost every emerging 3D era game and pre-rendered graphics games)
>gameplay was innovative at the time, but new games have done it better/improved on the formula
>game has lost online connectivity/dlc/developer support
>playerbase has dwindled and settled into stale meta/scummy/third world only players if online.

You are objectively correct in the long run, but you don't understand the value of being cutting edge at the time.

>>383532817
Lmao. Save for the thieves guild, Oblivion was way worse about this. At least being able to turn into a werewolf was cool, the fighters guild was absolute shit

>>383532192
I imagine a new Dragon born would be born then. And then another and another until they slay Alduin.

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>>383532947
It's their everyday

>>383533018
What if the next dragonborn is a kissless virgin who sits inside a hovel shitscribing about how shit the Lusty Argonian Maid is? The end of the dragon blood line.

>>383531964
>climbing was fine

>start climbing, up is up, down is down
>climb a little further, suddenly up is left, left is right, right is down, down is also down

>try to climb past some oddly shaped section >character gets stuck, jerking back and forth or spinning around

>creature swings around
>can't see where you are, can't manually rotate the camera

>start climbing
>insta-grabbed and thrown off depending on the where you climb, no way to know

>start climbing
>monster starts shaking, can't do shit for like 20 seconds
>start climbing again
>monster starts shaking, can't do shit for like 20 seconds
yeah nah it was shit

>>383532367
How do you even manage to mistake Picasso for Salvador Dali?
like how is that even possible m8?

>>383533227
alduin goes back to eating kalpas

>>383528781
Modders are quitting because the script extender had to be restarted from scratch for SE and the guys who wrote it all have real jobs and families now and can't spend time modding six year old video games for free.

>>383533230
>Inching yourself along an enemy instead of grabbing, jumping, grabbing, repeat until you get to a weak spot

>>383533227
dragonblood and dragonborn are two separate concepts. closely linked, but definitely separate

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>>383533245
By reading some article a few years ago and completly missremembering

>>383531478
CHIM was a nice idea, but that Vivec could attain it was retarded and even contradicted the lore of Morrowind.

>>383532817
Not to mention their quests were never related to the organization you're working for

>Companions
>oh yeah vikings and shit, time to be like beowulf and kill monsters for gold
>jk time to become a furry, sell your soul to hircine and destroy a guild focused on hunting down werewolves, guess whenever there's a werewolf problem in Skyrim people are just fucked

>Thieves Guild
>oh yeah, gonna steal shit and get paid
>jk time to become Maven's bitch and do her errands, also sell your soul to Nocturne

>Mage's Guild
>oh yeah time for magi-
>A GIANT FUCKING GLOBE IS GONNA DESTROY THE PLANET RIGHT IN THE FIRST FUCKING QUEST, SAVE US

>Bard's College
>let's compose songs and shi-
>Hey dragonborn, go to this dungeon filled with draugr and fetch something for me because fuck you for thinking this was going to be anything different

The only one that gets a pass is the Dark Brotherhood and even then you were a glorified band of thugs for most of the questline.

>>383533227
Being Dragonborn is not genetic inheritance.
The last Dragonborn is literally who from literally any race.

>>383533486
CHIM?

>>383533227
Is the Dragonborn an actual bloodline? I thought it was more a random mutation, put there by Akatosh or whatever.

>>383527407
A cat is fine too.

>>383533559
The companions being werewolfs is literally pointed out as a flaw, once honorable warriors have become tainted by hircine.
Thieves guild sucked yeah
MAges guild was better than oblivion by far
>Oh no the king of worms is back and hes going to destroy the world or some shit
>jk its some yellow guy in robes
Plus all the retarded shit about banning necromancy

>>383533230
>>insta-grabbed and thrown off depending on the where you climb, no way to know

so the monster isn't allowed to defend themselves?

>>monster starts shaking, can't do shit for like 20 seconds
>>start climbing again
>>monster starts shaking, can't do shit for like 20 seconds

you mean dragons or ogres? either way this complaint makes you sound like you wanted an insta-win button or a cheese strategy that works on every enemy unilaterally,

for the record, dragons can't shake you off if you use a liquid vim.

>>>start climbing, up is up, down is down
>>climb a little further, suddenly up is left, left is right, right is down, down is also down
>
>>try to climb past some oddly shaped section >character gets stuck, jerking back and forth or spinning around
>
>>creature swings around
>>can't see where you are, can't manually rotate the camera

these are legit, really minor but legit flaws that can be fixed. except maybe the one about not being able to climb over every inch of the monster, that makes sense in some contexts

>>383533691
Is that suppose to be an armour?

>>383533608
It begins.

>>383533852
mannimarco became a god in Daggerfall, it made no sense in being actually him.

>>383533687
The dragonblood are the descendants of tiber septim, who no longer exist
Dragonborn are chosen by akatosh, yes
Tbh skyrim fucked up the lore quite a bit, the dragonborn seems to only exist because alduin is fucking shit up by trying to conquer the world instead of eating it

>>383533608
yes, ''Gods'' cant attain CHIM, it was the whole reasons behind creating the mortal world, since mortals are the only one who can. Mundus is basically an ascendancy engine. The tragedy of Vivec is that he was aware of CHIM, but besause ho got godhood trough the Hearth, he coulndt attain it and must resort to teaching mortals trough the 36 lessons, like Lorkahn long ago.

>>383533559

Dawnguard stays the course for the most part.

But I guess it doesn't count cause while it's a guild it's more like a Main Questline.

>>383528416
Dig deeper, anon. Deep under these casul mods there's true autism at work.
>Radiant AI mods that change the behavior of npcs depending on mobs nearby, weather, wealth and player.
>Radiant AI that changes the behavior of animals to be realistic and makes them back off at night if you're carrying a torch.
>Brilliant combat changes that make certain enemies vulnerable to some types of weapons and subweapons.
>Loads of immersive immersion and survival mods.
>Only game except exanima where you can get killed but still survive the encounter. No, I don't mean the rape mods
Skyrim and Oblivion get ridiculously good with enough mods. I wish they made a 3d Morrowind Maker sandbox which was truly barebones. Then we'd have MODS: the game.
It's kinda what I had hoped minecraft would become.

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>>383533608
The most retarded theory ever, don't bother, someone dropped out from the fanfic community, but was still trying too hard.

>>383532957
Skyrim never was cutting edge. I admit that some of the vistas looked quite nice in 2011, but most of the time it wasn't that impressive in technical sense. Xbox 360 and PS3 really dragged it down at that point.

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>>383534134
This one is a shitty edit, I must have deleted the true one. Anyway, I'm out.

>>383533938
no its a dragon

The best dragon fight in any video game is Sinh in DS2

>>383534019
Alessia and Reman were also Dragonborn.

>>383534403
anon I see a nipple!

>you will never fuck almalexia

>>383532957
graphics wise, not really. It was an improvement over the vanilla Oblivion but that isn't saying much. The gameplay was far worse than older Elder Scrolls game and a lot was cut out from earlier titles.

So no. Neither of your examples really hold up. It wasn't really unique in any way.

>>383532872
I could be wrong but isn't this from that indecipherable text called the Devils Bible?

>>383533178
>serious Sam goes medieval

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>>383526171

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>>383532957
>graphics were impressive and/or a significant draw at the time of release, but over time have become less impressive due to continually developing graphics (see almost every emerging 3D era game and pre-rendered graphics games)
>gameplay was innovative at the time, but new games have done it better/improved on the formula
Games don't age. The game is the exact same as it was years ago. None of this affects the quality of the game and Skyrim was never cutting edge to begin with. The NPCs always looked like potatoheads with janky animations. And the world was always full of the same uninteresting shit. You have to be pretty much insane to enjoy this dull garbage. I do understand games being being more interesting because of a novelty factor, but they DO NOT become worse over time, they DON'T age.
>game has lost online connectivity/dlc/developer support
>playerbase has dwindled and settled into stale meta/scummy/third world only players if online.
I have never seen anyone refer to this as aging, but whatever. This can actually affect the quality of a game, but none of this applies to Skyrim. If anything Skyrim became better over time. Still irredeemable garbage, but better.

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>>383525575

>>383534595
Alessia wasn't a dragonborn in the sense Miraak or the protag is.
She couldn't absorb the power of dragons
"Alessia didn't have the power to absorb dragon souls. Hers was a much more nuanced power: to dream of liberty and give it a name and on her deathbed make Covenant with the Aka-Tusk."

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>>383530924
>That one nigga who died before even fighting.
>The enemy in question are a bunch of bats rats and one deer with an extra horn

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>>383534857
Ut's from something else entirely

>>383532192
>waiting for an incarnation of time and mortality to die
not even Alduin in all his retardation could be that dumb

>>383527501
who cares if it's his job if his job is causing the apocalypse?

>>383527624
he's an archangel, like grigori from Dragon's Dogma

>>383530038
I'm guessing you only played strider and assassin because the fight is obviously a whole lot different as a ranger, magick archer, mystic knight, sorcerer, etc.

also there are dragons that make it hard to grab them by flying all the time

and dragons can stop you from wailing on their weakspot by shaking you off in the air or flying if you're on the ground

>>383533608
simple explanation: CHIM is when you become the player and gain access to game mechanics.

lots of lore buffs will argue something like "that's an exactly perfect metaphor for what it is, but that's not literally what it is"

it's more or less realizing that you can lucid dream irl and becoming god if you don't wake up

>>383530995
>C0DA

is coda that awesome thing where the numidium comes back out of nowhere and destroys the world? because that would make one hell of an awesome TES game

>>383528585
You mean like... real bugs? Get stung by a tarantula hawk sometime, or bitten by a bullet ant. tells us about how the big strong human wasn't reduced to a blubbering mess by that tiny little insect.

>>383533018
Why not destroy the world whilst new dragonborn is a baby then?

>>383536568
I think he means like an ant or a fly or something. It was an analogy anon

>>383536114
Ahh I see. The style of it is very similar to that manuscript. I love old manuscripts like these.

>>383536831
He can't destroy the kalpa until its time is up. Plus, what would be the point? He can't rule over a world he destroyed

>>383536394
I thought CHIM was only applicable to NPCs and lore characters

>>383537261
the idea of CHIM is that when X character has chim they are essentially lucid dreaming, which is sort of like how you as the player can save/load, turn on god mode, use console commands, pause the game on a whim, etc.

a popular explanation of CHIM is basically saying it's like vivec gaining access to console commands/the pause menu

lore-wise, it's realizing you're in a dream, but continuing to exist, as a parallel to lucid dreaming irl where you realize you're in a dream and if you don't wake up, you gain full control

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>i-its his nature
>a-alduin just does what he has to
>P-please dragonborn understand

Doing "evil" just for the sake of it is just lazy ass writing. Anyone can do it.
>Anon hates anything thats not dubs
>Anon is the cancer killing 4chan
Fucking easy

I wonder what happened to the writers that came up with the lore of TES until skyrim, at least they used to put some minimal effort in the lore

>>383537597
Agreed, but name more than five fantasy characters who are actually a complex kind of evil instead of the stock "always evil" kind

>>383532817
imo the problem with the skyrim quests is that they were generic and uncreative, to me I think the guild quest lines should be epic and climactic, down to earth guilds would be boring. there's a reason we remember the thieves guild in oblivion.

>>383533559
>>The only one that gets a pass is the Dark Brotherhood and even then you were a glorified band of thugs for most of the questline.

the DB are literally a cult of contract killers how else are they supposed to come off?

I agree with the rest of the post

>>383537768
Agree except on one thing. Thieves guild was so good because it started so down to earth but got bigger and bigger all the way up to the white-gold tower heist. What makes a guild questchain good is the feeling of accomplishment, starting from the bottom and then something huge at the end
And I think he means how the DB no longer follow the tenets, making them essentially bandits for hire

>>383535565
games age in the sense that you wouldn't unironically buy a super mario bros 3 clone or final fantasy 1 clone for $60 on PS4 but when they came out they were absolutely worth full price on a home console

>>383526650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-KpFxIJAmQ
Yes it does.

>>383525357
Besides all the hate that I have for what Skyrim could've been, I'm actually having a good time replaying the game as a redguard. Here's hoping Bethesda will understand what good things need to be saved for TES VI
>>383532817
>you're the chosen one, the only one that can fix this
I mean, you are THE Dragonborn, isn't that the point?

>>383535808
Fine, but Reman did. That's why the Blades sought him out.

>>383534019
>>Tbh skyrim fucked up the lore quite a bit, the dragonborn seems to only exist because alduin is fucking shit up by trying to conquer the world instead of eating it

there's a shit ton of dragonborn people but only your character actually has to deal with dragons or use shouts or any of the other things that make dragonborns seem supernatural and mystical

contrast with oblivion where up until the end being dragonborn only let you light a fire and wear an amulet

>>383527917
>>383529056
>>383529168
speaking of souls dragons, what are the non-cheese ways you are supposed to kill the bridge drake in DaS1 and the drake early on in DaS3? I never figured out a good strat to get at them and cheesed them with arrows every time.

>>383528952
Parthunaax had to die, he was Alduins right hand man. It is in a dragon's blood to conquer, and he is shown flying off and recruiting other dragon's for his future uprising. Good or not, he must be purged.

>>383536848
If a bug bit you as many times at it typically takes to defeat your average souls boss, you'd be in pretty dire straits.

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>>383537743
>Dagoth ur
>Gwyn
>Vergil
>Sanctus
>Sub Zero, Scorpion
>Mr. House
>atleast 10 more from weeb games

In anything they had at least 1 reason to be "evil".

>>383536848
I listed an ant in my counter to his analogy. Size doesn't mean a whole lot when you've got the right weapon for the job. An ant bite can fell a human. A magic human can fell a dragon. The analogy is preserved.

>>383537768
the problem with Skyrim's DB is having to suffer Astrid's autism about "muh family and fuck the night mother" even though she is completely wrong and surprise surprise, she realizes how much of a retard she is by the end of it.

It is a fine questline for someone who doesn't know jack shit about TES but for everyone else you're just constantly wondering why can't you just kill everyone in this garbage guild and start over.

>>383534190
>Only game except exanima where you can get killed but still survive the encounter.

all sorts of mount&blade mods have that feature now

>>383538663
I think he meant like a small tiny garden ant, not some deadly unknown type of ant
You must be fun to hang around

>>383526572
Lore vs Reality again? In an Elder Scrolls thread?
Elder Scrolls is a series about god tier Lore being shat on by the game being poor.

>>383539384
They're right though. Alduin is the being who ends the world, but he goes down easier than a random dragon. They should have at least made him gigantic in size or something

>>383527884

You don't know what aging well means if you think that's any indication. Super Mario World aged like fine wine and its rom hacks have nothing to do with that.

>>383537743
depending on how strong we are taking the fantasy term:
Rodrigo Borgia
Skull Kid
Kain
Dormin
Castlevania's Dracula
Captain LeChuck
Arthas Menethil

>>383539053
If by fun you mean retarded, you're right I'm not.
>unknown type
Get off the internet and read a book you stupid shit.

>decide to join thieves guild
>receive quest in order to become a full member
>guild members are already telling me i'm hot shit before i've even left the room

>>383528952
easiest choice in the game, the only real reason to kill parth is to test your mettle.

>>383530592
>It was the only moment in the game where if felt conflicted

do the self serving bidding of the people who have done nothing for you against the person who has helped you the most or... not?

>>383529551
I'm sure it's a glitch

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>>383525357

>t. sirubachi miguzi nihon dark souls rehash #699 kid

>>383538619
>Mr. House
bait

>>383539620
Wow mr cool guy hanging out on 4chan
This gets tossed around a lot, but you might be actually autistic if you can't grasp a simple analogy and instantly go looking for loopholes. Get help

>>383540170
M'profligate

>>383530106
>the setting for DDO where the dragon of the cycle essentially tells the Seneschal and the cycle to sod off

tell me more

but that sounds sort of derivative of daimon in BBI

>>383525357
>all these retarded anons saying Alduin can only truly die in Sovngarde
>the game never says this
>Dragonborn never absorbed Alduin's soul
Is autism now transmissible via memes?

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>>383530592
>felt conflicted
A dragon that is filled with centuries of knowledge and history vs a senile old man and a washed up whore trying to relive the glory days they were never apart of

>>383530924
rudolph learned not to take shit from anyone after a certain incident

>fight for the imperials
>kill the emperor

>stormcloak guards like talos worship
>"hail sithis"

no contradictions here guys

>>383529103
All dragons are part of Aka.
So throwing fucking words around, God is not a thing in TES, it's a word used by worshippers and mortals to describe things they worship or powerful Ada.
Everyone is a bound or unbound Ada and everyone can achieve such power.
In tes everyone is a God waiting to be awakened.

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>>383538213
>I'm actually having a good time replaying the game as a redguard
>fantasy game where you can be anything you want
>choose to be a nigger
uh

>>383538213
>he enjoys curved swords
disgusting

>>383540181
You might actually be retarded if you fervently defend your shitty analogy that you made to complain about how you kill dragons in video games. Read up on sunk-cost fallacy once you finish reading about bullet ants.

>>383530667
>>"high quality map" is printed on wallpaper and when I try to iron it, it turns into a fucking mess

you tried to iron, paper? wtf?


>>can't look through the art book to avoid spoilers, still after all these years haven't finished the game, thus being unable to open the book

if you have no intention of finishing the game, and the game doesn't have much plot anyway, why do you care about spoilers?

>>383531887
woah this is pretty insightful anon, I had never noticed most of this

>>383525575
shut the fuck up

>>383540424
Very technically speaking Sithis worship the way Dark Brotherhood does is bamboozled bullshit Mephala worship.
Worship of Lorkhan and Talos is the true Sithis worship because Lorkhan is the unstable agent created by Sithis to bring change into Anu's static dream.

>>383525575
>games age
actually it's just you buddy

>>383540737
I went with redguard cuz I wanted the disease protection, but didn't want to have a tail and scales, so

There are some offhand remarks regarding the fact that
>Alduin was consumed by his greed and is not functioning properly
>Alduin is somehow disoriented because of time travel and as Paarthrunax says the very nature of Dragons is in tune with waves of time or some shit
>Alduin came to enjoy eating souls more than anything
The thing is that any semblance of story is spent on shitty YE OLDE DRAGON TIMES bullshit and almost none of it is spent on actual explanations for Alduins motivation or his characterization. The main story becomes a sideplot TO WHAT SHOULD BE THE SIDEPLOT ABOUT PAST.

>>383541005
I didin't make the analogy. If you think im >>383528585
then you're legitimatly retarded.
He made an analogy, and like the NEET you are, you had to go OH NO THERES VARIOUS INSECTS THAT COULD KILL A HUMAN when he clearly meant insect as something like a garden variety ant or fly.
Take a break from 4chan anon, it's getting to you

>>383532192
because alduin would lose the respect of every single dragon in existence and they'd all rebel against him or just ignore him and call him a pussy so he'd be doing everything by himself.

not to mention that exactly what happened in canon could still happen (DB gaining dragonrend and then going to sovngarde)

>>383533227
dragonblood is a genetic inheritance but the thing is that there's a whole fuck load of people who are dragonborn at any given time, there are just never dragons around so you don't get to see uriel septim or martin shout, it would be nearly impossible to eradicate dragon blood.

>>383525689
Okay, just so you understand what that means.
>A Dragon who is THE first born Dragon meaning that he was the one and only aspect of Aka before anything else, incarnation of THE END itself and a being powerful enough to nonchalantly consume the Aurbis telling all the deities Aedric or Daedric to fuck off could not figure out that a Dragonborn who just defeated him on the mortal plane would be able to get some lousy Dragon weaker than him to go to Sovngarde, a place which is controlled by Shor, a guy that will welcome and help Dragonborn.

>>383541134
Where are the best places to find lore books in morrowind and skyrim?
Are there any specifically good libraries or book shops?

don't have the other TES games

>>383532636
>should I post my Saint George collection ?
yes

>>383541612
All the libraries in Skyrim seem to be random generated, same with booksellers, so just buy all the books.
In Morrowind the Temple library has a shit ton of books related to religion and metaphysics, read all of it, after that most of the libraries hold variety of content related to general stuff or local areas and some other random books too, so just read that too.
There are also books and notes that are important but can be found only outside, like Old Weathered Note, so exploration and reading will go a long way.

I can link you to good out of game lore resources if you want to generally learn more lore.

>>383532367
Man the gesture and everything is so badass here, he is fucking fighting for his life and saint George is pushing that shit down his throat.

>>383541785
Thanks anon. Yeah that would be great.

>>383525575

It was fucking garbage when it came out.

Here's your you.

>>383532192
Alduin was not needed for Dragonborn to go to Sovngarde.
The issue here is that Alduin can technically go to whatever realm he fucking wants, he is supposed to eat all of the world, not just Nirn, therefor he has ways to get everywhere somehow through his own powers or by knowing natural portals to all realms.

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>skyrim was just disappointing
>fo4 was just boring
Whenever tes6 comes out i hope its at least funny-bad.
Thats still too much to hope for, right?

>>383537743
mehrunes dagon is an agent of change of any kind, he's evil in personality and methods but him trying to destroy the world in oblivion is change, that's just literally his job description.

hircine in morrowind isn't evil, he just likes to hunt, are all hunters evil?

there was a villain from one of the older tales games (phantasia maybe) that was just a fairy or an elf or something trying to do the right thing for their people

ganondorf from wind waker basically says he tried to conquer hyrule because the place where he's from is a shithole where his people struggle and he coveted the green of hyrule

the fallen from destiny are just trying to survive, same as you

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>>383530924
It's funny how falchions are so prevalent in period art but they've been brushed aside in modern fantasy.
I always thought they were bretty cool.

>>383529551
Nothing better than installing mods to rape this bitch constantly. Then her holier than thou attitude comes off as a coping mechanism to deal with the fact she's the Dragonborn's cock sleeve.

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>>383542205
>Thats still too much to hope for, right?
As long as they release the mod kit and script extender on release day I'll be fine

>>383541383
>disease protection
there are literally 8 diseases in skyrim and none of them are worse than -15% stamina, also they're super easy to cure

>>383542653
Is that supposed to be sexy? Because all I can focus on is the fact that her head and body are two completely different colors.

Let's settle this once and for all? What's the best race and why is it Argonians?

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>>383542834
>What's the best race and why is it Argonians?
you mean orcs right

>>383542834
The best race is bosmer because they are the best.

>>383542653
Severely doubt it.
Honestly think they'll introduce a new engine this time since even normies were tired of their shit in fo4.
Which will bring a new level of jank and a "please wait while we iron everything out before we release anything :)" excuse
Then if anything does come out it'll be half assed so they can get more people to work for their paid mod store which will give them better tools to work with
Mark my words, shits gonna be fucked

>>383541996
>http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1112211-how-to-become-a-lore-buff/
General guide for beginners
>https://www.imperial-library.info/
All books are here
>http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page
Probably know this one, the oldest and best TES wikia
>https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/
Sadly the only active lore community left, it usually comes in waves and lore discussions will become active once TES VI comes out.
>>383542942
>Orcs that wear Nordic armor and Reachmen armor instead of Orsimer made and styled armor
Why though? In Skyrim Todd is a hack and refuse to make more than one kind of each armor, thus higher level Orcs have to wear better armor, but even then he made an effort to make Orsimer wear mostly Orichalc armor.

As a modder you have access to all sorts of armor mods and you choose to dress your Orcs like other races.

>>383542834
I will give you a fact altmer has the hottest girls of all races.

>>383537462
So.. like the Matrix?

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>>383543172
>you choose to dress your Orcs like other races
boredom

>>383542834
That's not how you spell khajit

>>383542653
M8 if you don't think they'll package TES 6 with paid mods you're dreaming. They wanted that shit and it blew up, they'll force people into it with the next game.

>>383543172
Thank you :)

>>383540358
not everyone spends hours reading the complex lore behind the game, most people just assume that when you kill something it dies.

>>383540604
>In tes everyone is a God waiting to be awakened.

only if the aldermi dominion are correct and don't accidentally destroy the universe and wipe everyone from existence

>>383541134
iirc in the vile lair DLC of oblivion the statue of "sithis" has a hole in its chest for a missing heart, now consider that in morrowind the heart of lorkhan is separated from the rest of lorkhan...

>>383541612
>Where are the best places to find lore books in morrowind and skyrim?
you're probably best off reading UESP (the elder scrolls wiki) and that one library website for elder scrolls lore,

if you insist on doing so in game just play the game normally and read every book with an interesting name that you come across scattered through the world (such as "on lycanthropy")

>>383541385
elder scrolls is like DD in that it hides away all the interesting lore, but unlike DD where you're meant to play the game again and get the things you didn't get the first time, elder scrolls acts like it's ashamed of its lore.

also alduin being disoriented doesn't make sense, alduin is a time god and thus alduin is an archangel of time essentially, he should be fine.

>>383542834
lorewise or in game? it doesn't matter in game.

>>383543225
essentially, yeah. but anyone can be the one

>>383543527
That is not the issue, this isn't deep lore like how the Kalpic cycle works, ironically that stuff is said blatantly, there are several points in quests where people are like
>Oh yeah, Kalpas exist
>Oh, this is a tonal tool, it is used to warp reality by manipulating it's tonality
This is blatant missmanagment of story and just bad writing.
>also alduin being disoriented doesn't make sense, alduin is a time god and thus alduin is an archangel of time essentially, he should be fine.
Nah, that part would make sense if they would elaborate on it. Dragons are not creatures of time, they are at least in part time itself. Akatosh has been broken and fucked multiple times to result in a Dragonbreak or other manipulation of some sort and there is little to nothing that he can do about it.
When time is fucked with Dragons are fucked.

>>383543483
Is that fur coming out of your ears?

>>383527187
low tier bait

>>383526472
of course they did they had never seen or played an "rpg" before

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>>383525575
Thats why mods make it better anon

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Don't try to rewrite history /v/

>>383544814
He's clearly doing push ups

>>383544814
lizard nipples

>>383525575
I pirated it and thr only wow moment was when you see the northern lights, after that I just dropped and never ever played again. Everything in this game is terrible.

>>383544814
>Make a human
>Paint them green
>'Hay guiz, i made a new race'

>>383545897
>make human
>paint black
>'Hey guiz, I made a new race'

>>383527371
>>383527917
Fucking Dragon's Dogmatics are back. The Dragon fights in DD were shitty, shallow, wannabe Shadow of the Colossus fights. And Grigori's philosophy was typical Nip writer throwing in concepts they thought sounded cool without actually understanding a damn thing about it.

>>383546550
>The Dragon fights in DD were shitty, shallow, wannabe Shadow of the Colossus fights.

how many dragons were in SotC?

did you seriously just call DD combat shallow compared to a PS2 game full of cut content?


>And Grigori's philosophy was typical Nip writer throwing in concepts they thought sounded cool without actually understanding a damn thing about it.

collect 20 wakestones before you talk about the plot anon

while you're at it, google "define dogma" and then rewatch the youtube video with the grigori fight

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>>383546550
You're probably the same guy who unironically thinks Midir is the best vidya dragon fight aren't you?

>>383543760
>This is blatant missmanagment of story and just bad writing.

desu you have a point, but I always assumed that they simply didn't want to confuse the audience by trying to explain the deep lore shit like alduin being weakened by not doing his duty or whatever. maybe that was a faulty assumption of the root cause


>Nah, that part would make sense if they would elaborate on it. Dragons are not creatures of time, they are at least in part time itself. Akatosh has been broken and fucked multiple times to result in a Dragonbreak or other manipulation of some sort and there is little to nothing that he can do about it.
>When time is fucked with Dragons are fucked.

this is actually a really good point and I didn't think of it.

I am the only one annoyed that he didnt had any loot? hell,any unique soulgem or souvenir at least to display on your home

havent found a mod to correct this yet

>>383548836
It would be pretty funny if he dropped 3 coins or something like that.

>>383525357

After years I realize how shit skyrim was

>Main story is painfully generic
>Antagonist is a one-sided joke
>Guilds are a joke
>""""Cities""""" have 6 hovels in it, the """""capital"""" have 8 hovels

>>383550762
>>Main story is painfully generic

let me tell you about the kalpic cycle...

>>383525357
He has to go to Sovngarde to leech power from the Souls of the dead, dumbfuck.

Skyrimbabby's need to stop pretending to understand the lore.

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>>383528703
>TES 6 pulls your player character from your most recent saved game on Skyrim and makes them the villain
screencap this post

>>383553241
>screencap this post
why, so people can shrug and/or laugh at you later?

>>383527078
spooky

>>383528703
It's especially dumb because the massive open-world RPG aspect of their games would work better without a singular linear main questline.
If they cut out this whole main villain bullshit entirely and let players meet their own personal villains through more interesting non-mandatory quests in the world, not even the normalfags would notice.
Of all the people I've talked to on the subject, only like 10% of them had played through Skyrim's main questline until the end, because they didn't care at all about continuing it, and were more invested in doing all of the other cool stuff in the world that more immediately suited their interests.
Main questlines should just be scrapped.

>>383530005
>head to bleakfalls barrow
>why the hell not?
>"THE GOLDEN CLAW" just fucking pops into my quest page.

>>383553241
>bethesda doing anything that takes effort
TES 6 is gonna start in some sort of prison scenario because it's "traditional for the series" or something and definitely not just because it's easier than thinking of anything new, screencap this post

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>>383525575
games way older than Skyrim are still fantastic today, take pic related for example

>>383529310
>Climbing onto either his chest or back to hit the heart from either side
you can hit his heart from the back in combat too? I always go for the front
he must have a big fuckin heart

>>383542653
Script extender won't come out for a while after release if at all. Mod kit won't come out for months at least like last few times. I think Morrowind was the only one that had the mod kit come on the disc.

All I know is that the next game better not have load screens between interior and exterior spaces. That shit drives me nuts. Witcher 3, BOTW, and pretty much any large game runs without load screens these days. It's also going to take quite some time after the extender to come out for decent mods (sexual or otherwise) to come out. Hopefully when they do we get something like OSex early instead of Sexlab. That shit came out too late for anyone to make use of it.

Skyrim is better as an open ended, open world sandbox than an actual game with actual stories or design. I like to play as wizards who go mad with power, and as one who began destroying space time, and reality itself as he played with powers beyond his control, for the sake of asserting dominance over the most powerful being in existence, despite not knowing what it was, but his plan was to draw it out by challenging it with his growing power.

Then I played a wandering samurai warrior who, upon seeing the civil war, decided to kill both armies, their leaders, the jarls, and the high king candidates himself, and re-instate the Shogun in Skyrim.

Then I played a bandit bicycle who became discontent with her monotonous life, and lack of self worth, so she leaves her troupe in the middle of the night, goes off on an adventure to see the world, and stumbles upon conspiracies, shadow governments, slave trades, and more, who was killed just as she got too close to a dark cult trying to summon Mehrunes Dagon back into the world.

Then I played as a girl looking for the whereabouts of her mother, a legendary spellsword, who follows her trail to find that her mother has basically built an army of her own of people tired of the civil war, and through a series of guerrilla tactics, rendered both sides basically unable to fight any longer, united Skyrim, and became a sort of demigod as she rallied the sides to fight against the Thalmor.

Regardless of how stupid and fucking erratic these stories are, I'd say they're more fun to go through than the main questline. To me, quality writing that's 100% sensible and well thought out 100% of the time isn't as fun as a wild ass ride that gets dumber and dumber as it goes on, and some stupid "you fight the epic legendary ancient evil as the super legendary superboss" story isn't fun. In my like, 2000+ hours playing skyrim, not a single fucking minute has been spent doing the main quest.

>>383529704
make the pawns shut the fuck up or at least give them more dialogue variety
I'm pretty sure I could recite every one of their lines from memory at this point

How would you anons ideally create a dragon fight in a 3D space?
For me, it would be a ridiculous challenge that would require you to be wary of every part of the dragon's body.

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post yer mods fagos

>>383555005
If you're a mage, flight and projectile based magic, maybe shapeshifting too.

If you're a warrior, enchanted armor and weapons that let you go toe to toe with the dragon by grabbing onto it, suplexing it, shit like that.

If you're a thief, bribing someone else to fight it for you.

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>>383555118
playing it the way it's intended to be played

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>>383555118
not mine but ok

>>383531887
I remember going mystic knight on PS3 and just blasting Ur Dragon with holy infused magick cannon the entire fight, felt like I had a consistent 10 fps
would also use that massive holy majick AoE that drained your entire parties stamina when the chance arose, good shit

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>>383555451
>not mine
Then why post it fago