Fuck you! FFXII out tomorrow, we weren't done talking!

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>>383524789
>FFXII out tomorrow
What the fuck. I thought they were up to XV now.

Also isn't this one filled with nothing but whites? Sounds awesome.

Vanilla liscence board is lowest tier shit and requires no thought. IZJE boards require more thought.

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>Get a shipping notification from Amazon
>July 13th
I was waiting for Amazon to give me my ten bucks.

>>383524931
You forgot all the Lizard cock and stuff because Ivalice.

>>383524952

Looking forward to this.

>>383525254
So everyone knows, the second board is in addition to, the same squares that both share will be filled in on the other board so you can use this to get to places that would require a quickening or esper use sometimes. But it won't make you super devastatingly powerful because most lores won't overlap.

>>383524952
>Every single enemy in the game drops 1-2 LPs
>The farther away the skill on the License Board it is, the more it costs
>IZJE takes away most of it
I think you meant Vanilla requires more thought so you don't get stuck grinding this bullshit mechanic.

>>383524952
>>383525254
It requires no thought though. You can do whatever you want and the game is easier than it was in vanilla.

I....can't stop playing this. Im not a JRPG or Final Fantasy player normally but I couldn't put it down all weekend. I even enjoyed Kingsglaive. That attack at the treaty signing was awesome.

Should I play Episode Strong Guy while he's gone in the main story?

pc version when?!

>>383525529
Except your esper and quickening use will lock you out of skills for others. The new board system allows weapons and skills that werent gotten til later and almost never used to have use much much earlier, offering more gameplay choices. More variety with less grinding for it.

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>>383524789
Never played FFXII because I've always read the story is mediocre and the main character is garabge. Is this true and should I buy this tomorrow?

>>383524931
But they have Reddas, a badass black pirate.

>>383525898
Story is actually pretty good. Nothing outstanding, but the politics and the message about humanity taking control of their destiny from the gods was pretty interesting after all the romantic schlock seen the last few games before.

>>383525898
https://youtu.be/_9udy1g-Km4

Story is pretty good. Middle part sure does fall off with less plot but its alright. Only Penelo and Vaan are "garbage" narrative wise. Not as bad as most autists make them out to be though.

>>383525747
oh no things that never mattered still won't. yes we know the game is easier now.

>>383525624

Hey buddy I think you got the wrong thread. The XV thread is two blocks down.

>>383525898
The story is your basic overthrow the empire that people often mistake for a star wars ripoff. Even if you don't like the main character you can choose who your party leader is and the person people call the main character isn't that prominent after the party is completed.

>>383525898
Ignore the people saying the story is good. It's poorly written and the characters are literally all boring. Fran was the most interesting but she got no screen time at all.

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>>383525898
That has almost definitely been said about every single FF game before. Take a look at some gameplay, and if it seems compelling to you, then consider it.

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>furries think this would improve the game

>>383525898
The whole game is mediocre. The story is hot garbage. Buy something better. Now that the graphics are nothing special, it has lost a lot of its appeal.

>>383526118
Theres also a hard mode to make up for how its easier. (Was always easy as shit though)

>>383526118
Espers and quickenings are both good now. Quickenings don't take your MP, and Espers can be controlled, as well as have their special attacks activated at your choosing instead of when they are about to leave. So now we get more variation in how your characters play, and more strategy in what squares you pick along with jobs.

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>>383525898
The devs cited that there is no "Main Character" and that the game is about a lot of people, but Vaan is kinda meh. It's soundtrack is very strong and it was really visually appealing for it's time. I'm super hyped for this game, having played the everloving shit out of the original. Also Ashe is a qt.

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>>383526364
There was always a hard mode you had to unlock it with codes though.

>choose your class
>permanently
dropped

>>383526545
>I can't handle choices with consequence

>>383526212
>Mistake for starwars
Desert land with young youth wanting to leave and rebel against an oppressive empire which is ruled by an iron fist by darth vader like judges. You journey with a dashing rogue and his beastly companion, and a princess to retrieve a magical sword and get attuned to magic to oppose said empire. Its Star Wars 4/5th of the story.

this was one of the few I never played. out of all the final fantasies how would you guys put it on a scale/rate it.

>>383526514
You know what's even better? Holding a direction and auto attacking everything to death at 4 times speed of normal.

>>383526545
It was such a dumb move.

>>383526527
>IZJS editor.
We were talking vs vanilla faggot. Vast majority of people never played it. Besides if you got that you can get Job Switch cheat which is an even better version of the license system not in either.

>>383525467
I wonder if anyone's seen what combinations let you skip what espers yet. All the autists just seem to be focusing on using all 12 jobs at once and what espers each character needs for 99 in str/mag or both

>>383526960
> Vast majority of people never played it.
Nigger you aren't even making sense at this point. No shit, and they still won't play it. Most FF fans played it and didn't like it very much, and far less of the people who have played it will play this version.

The point of that picture was the "weak mode" which was in the base game code already.

Anything I should keep in mind as a first time player or is the game easy enough?

>>383526756
I didn't like it, that's for sure. It doesn't play like a ff game at all, which could be a good thing but in that case it's just mmoesque garbage. The characters are unlikable, and have 0 personnality, you can tell they tried to avoid walking stereotypes or silly overdesign, but ended up having nothing at all.

Post more Fran.

>>383526735
If I make everyone a white mage and I cant get through the game then its objectively bad design and shouldn't be an option. Should've made each character have a set amount of classes to balance things out.

My dicks going to get a hammering.

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>>383525898
it's fun

>>383527142
Its a major part of IZJE. You have to unlock it in game. No cheats needed.

>>383527212
There's no more magic queue so mages are better than they used to be. Similarly enemies are more dangerous than they used to be. On ps2 you could often encounter a couple enemies who would all decide to cast spells at once, so you could either cast a spell first and cuck them or just kill them before more than one of them finished the spell animation. Now they'll all blast out at once.

>>383527445
You can though. Why would you think you can't? You're assuming some stupid shit. You can beat the game without any jobs and without leveling up.

>>383527445
it's funny because you could get through the game that way.

>>383527557
>>383527645
Normally or by abusing the mechanics?

>>383527445
>if i get a rocket launcher and i die because i wasted the rockets on trash enemies when i was supposed to save them for the boss, it's not my fault

nigger the first final fantasy let you have a party of four white mages. go play that if you wanna be retarded.

>>383526231
>Fran was the most interesting but she got no screen time at all.
>no screen time at all.

Except that's wrong

>>383527445
>If I make everyone a white mage and I cant get through the game then its objectively bad design and shouldn't be an optio
>if I can't make objectively bad decisions and the game allows me to succeed in spite of them, it's a bad game
Really?

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This dick is reason I stopped playing on the ps2.

Inb4 I just now read that he is optional fuck me

>>383527703
normally by being patient

there are shitty classes of course but the game is brain dead easy

>>383527703
look up a 122333 playthrough on IZJS. It's very possible. Never done it personally, but enough people have so I'd assume it can be done normally, and that it's just this game's version of DMC4's "Hell and Hell" mode. ffs people can beat Yiazmat, the game's toughest superboss without leveling up.

>>383527703
As all white mages playing normally, yeah just fine. No license board LLG involves mechanic abuse but no glitches.

>>383527860
Nice argument.

>>383527897
He was a cunt, but I managed to beat him after doing a bit of grinding in Ozmone Plains up to avg level 26, and outfitting everyone with more up to date gear. Just gotta stock up on curatives and keep dealing damage.

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>>383526515
you know it

>>383527496
How? I did EVERYTHING there is to do in the game at a pretty slow pace and it still only took me 120ish hours.

>>383527212
At some point you're gonna fight a dude with tons of large swords on a bridge in the Lhusu Mines if you're clearing post-game content, don't forget to Steal a Helm, Armour, Shield and Gloves from him.
Also don't forget to pick up the loot drop from a certain boss in a large annoying dungeon because if you don't pick it up you're shit out of luck of getting a copy of an unique (but meh) weapon.

So I never beat the original. Is it worth it for Ashe?

>>383528693
I missed stealing from "guy" during the first phase of the fight, am I fucked on getting that gear or can I steal it on the second phase? I noticed the steal timings aren't overlapped so I figured I could.

>>383528746
no

>>383528541
Gotta learn to love the environment and wander Salikawood aimlessly. I kinda fell in love with the world as a whole, and would walk from one side of the wrold to the other sometimes, just for the fun of it.

>>383528746
Depends, do you like short-haired, strong, royal ladies? Because I do.

>>383528886
You're fucked on getting half the set.

>>383527103
Telekenisis on Knight is easy on most other jobs, just need a 390HP lore I think.

>>383528886
iirc you get one half of the set in the first fight, and the other half in the second fight.

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>>383528746
How much do you love Ashe?

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Pic related is undeniable. You know it to be true.

>>383529006
>and wander Salikawood aimlessly
so you're saying you need to have autism

>>383529006
You sound autistic

>>383529006
Cerobi Steppe is my area for that, going out killing ceourls and wyrms is fun while hoping that chest with good ammo spawns.

>>383529017
>>383529128
Thats bogus. I even made sure to get the Zodiac Spear correctly. Oh well, I'm sure it won't matter aside from my autism.

>>383526063
i thinks thats why i liked it all the games previous to it where just "shut up and fuck already" with the protags.

at least with 12 they didnt ham fist it in

>yfw ff12 on steam leads to more futa fran sfm porn

>>383529197
>>383529246
>calling someone an autist because they like a thing
i almost forgot where i was for a second, thanks for reminding me that liking things in the current year is an unforgivable offense.

>>383526063
This, the problem was the pacing

>>383529453
>i almost forgot where i was for a second,
another sign of autism

it's certain you are autistic.

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>>383529408
>not penelo sold to a whore house loses virginity and is broken porn

>>383529593
At least you can FF through the slow parts now gameplay wise.

>>383529283
The Genji Gloves can be obtained through the Hunt Club in this version, luckily that's the only part of the set that really matters for max dps.

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>>383529624
i knew it
i knew i was autistic
I've had my suspicions since i was a kid

>>383527445
>implying you couldn't do 1 class builds in FF1 and win even though it might be significantly harder
>implying having all the health in the world won't be easy, just slow

>>383529453
>900 hours spent in a shitty 40 hour game
yes you are autistic

>>383525072
>>383526024

Guess FFVI is still the champion

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Ok faggots i need to know what i was doing wrong other than git gud back when i was playing this on ps2
memory hazy so not 100% sure but i remember farming for that shield from ultima chest and getting 3 of those + some 1 handed weapon and felt pretty strong
afterwards i started climbing up the challenge mode floors till i got thrown in a fight with around 10-15 pirate looking guys that would literally tear me a new one despite all my defenses,so what gives?

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Best Cid?
He did nothing wrong

>>383526069
I love how they really made him sound like his face is in a trashcan

>>383529857
well, either that or i was really poor and only had 3 games.

>>383530014
every character sounds like that

>>383526069
What a great dub.

>>383529986
i like how this game had two Cids

>>383530070
That's not true at all. He sounds like that because the character literally has a trashcan helmet

>>383529191
So what?

desperately need the chocolate bunny on my face. She is why i became so god damn horny for brown girls.

>>383530282
It is true. The compression is fucking terrible.

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>>383529979

So did best side boy in a final fantasy game ever get with the bunny?

>>383530342
Yeah, they waged war on the ps2's capabilities. The second to last boss fight was known to lag pretty noticeably.

>>383530342
That video is of the ps4 version

>>383530342
>>383530642
It was actually a developer choice. They're supposed to sound like that. FF12 runs fine on PS2 and there are much bigger games.

>>383530698
The voices didn't change they just made them louder.

>>383530719
Anon, you can HEAR the compression in the audio track.
You really think someone who played the game is going to believe this bullshit?

>>383530719
then why did that fight lag so fucking bad on every ps2 i tried it on?

>>383530376
Larsa just following like a goof is so fitting somehow.

>>383530849
Because they wanted it to seem like the game was set in the past. The Japanese voices don't sound like that, they wanted that version to sound normal.

>>383530921
Because PS2 games run bad.

>>383530810
That's actually just false

>>383531054
No it isn't.

>>383531248
They sound the fucking same dingaling

>>383531054
No it isn't, you can still hear the compression problem everyone hoped would be fixed in this version. All they did was up the volume so you can hear it better. Its still tinny and hollow.

So can you change classes in the new version?

I really don't want to get stuck on a midgame boss because I didn't pick a specific class at the very beginning with no knowledge of how the classes progress thanks to vague translations.

>>383531932
>world has tons of variety in races
>main party is five humans and bunny girl fap bait
>even guests are all humans
I love this game but they really dropped the ball there.

>>383532514
Well, I sure didn't mean to reply. Sorry for confusing you.

>>383524789
Fran shouldve banged Basch tbqh

>>383532137
>I'm super beta and decisions terrify me

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FUCK THIS RABBIT

>>383532934
Gladly.

>>383532738
you know what bud I'm going to make everyone a samurai and beat the game just to spite you

>>383528746
No. Its worth it for Fran

>>383532137
You won't get stuck on any boss because of your job choices.

>>383529986
Whats that Venat?

Am I the only one that always used FAP party in every playthrough? It really is amazing their names abbreviated into that.

>>383533565
I did it because I have a femdom fetish.

I would have my level 90 female party members beat up my level 50 male characters, and jack off to it.

>>383533565
I went Fran, Ashe, Basch. Basch and Ashe are the main characters in my head and Fran is my waifu.

>>383534241
>tfw Basch is always alone or gets cucked in fanfics while Balthier gets Fran or Ashe
Not fair.

>>383534762
Basch had a hard life

>>383534241
>I went Fran, Ashe, Basch.
Same.

Ashe was the main character for me, and she fit like a sword guy(female) imo. Turned out more Paladin later on, especially liked it when she got Excalibur and a white robe(+50% holy damage iirc)

I love Dragoons, Dragoons jump, bunnies jump, so Fran was a Dragoon caster.
Basch looked the most fierce so he was just another warrior. I think I mostly used 1h axes for him

>>383535163
You went almost the same layout as me but I never messed with any of the weapons that had a huge damage range like axes. Why were there so many weapon types with that set up (high variance in dmg output)?

>>383524789
Which version of the game is it?

Started an IZJS run on PCSX2 when I heard about the zodiac age to compare them when it comes out, I'm not even half done yet.
Also, rate my party:
Vaan - Hunter
Balthier - Uhlan
Fran - White mage
Basch - Knight
Ashe - Samurai
Penelo - Black mage
Pretty boring, I know

>>383527703
If you learn how to abuse the mechanics long enough then it becomes normal to you.
Example: speedrunners. Sequence breaking and frame perfect inputs are second nature to them.

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>>383534762
:(

>>383534762
Basch canonically ends up with larsa's boipussy, so he's a clear winner

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>go to the effort to create a desert kingdom for your protag hometown
>could have made Ashe a sexy desert princess
>instead make her look like some sort of hodgepodge fashion reject disaster.

>>383526754
so are Vaan and Penelo C3PO and R2D2?

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Games like this make my anxiety rise a little. Is there any way you can fuck this up with the job system and espers? How about stat growth, is that a thing depending on what job you take, are the jobs permanent? I've never played FFXII before but really don't want to fuck myself over after hours and hours of playing only to find out that something I did could have been done a whole lot better.

Are there any job combos I should avoid? Are there any that work really well together? I read that Ashe being a Samurai + Knight is really good and Vaan being a Monk + Hunter.

>>383536682
The are jar jar

>>383536426
kek

>>383536804
>Is there any way you can fuck this up with the job system and espers?
Yeah
Just don't use two jobs that overlap with speels and equipment. You want to get the most out of a licence board
And save Famfrit for your Machinist only to get Hastega

>>383536804
Get the Swiftness licenses as your first priority. Then go for quickenings, and then anything that reduces MP cost or gives you MP for doing something. Purchase licenses for spells and weapons and armor as you get them. Its really easy, quite stressing out.

>>383536804
Character stats dont matter, you will increase their stats by icence board and equipment can max out specific sats late game so feel free to play with whatever party you desire.

Im going to make Fran a Black Mage Monk, she'll max out her magic late game and the holy spell from Monk (Needs the Chaos esper to unlock for this job).

Plus the extra magic power will turn her into a devastating black mage with some great white magic while having a variety of equipment and high HP from monk.

Same with Balthier and white mage/machinist. The guns have fixed damage so him playing support suits him and contrasts Fran from my point of view.

>>383536682
Yes. The rest of the cast are interesting and likeable. Vans and Penelo are the two boring ones no one give a fuck about.

>>383538003
I think the game would have been a lot better with Vaan's brother as the "protagonist".

>>383536804
>Is there any way you can fuck this up with the job system and espers?
If you can't get past some part with the jobs you selected then you can always just grind a bit until you win by virtue of big numbers. You shouldn't run into anything like that if you're not retarded though.
>How about stat growth, is that a thing depending on what job you take
I believe it's random. You can reset every time you level up for maximum HP and MP rolls if you're that autistic.
>are the jobs permanent?
Yes, you're told this much when you're prompted to pick one. You can look at the license board before you pick.
>I've never played FFXII before but really don't want to fuck myself over after hours and hours of playing only to find out that something I did could have been done a whole lot better.
Well it's a good thing you never played the original then, because there was a supreme meme concerning the ultimate weapon that they removed in IZJS. You can't really screw yourself out of doing something other than only being allowed to pick half the jobs in one run.
>Are there any job combos I should avoid?
Not really. You can do whatever you want, but certain parts of the game might be harder if you have two or more of the same job.
>Are there any that work really well together?
Certainly, and I could tell you which ones they are. But part of the fun is experimenting by yourself, isn't it?
Breaker and Machinist are slightly underpowered, but it really shouldn't matter what jobs you pick. Just play the game.

>>383532934
Ass so good Balthier turned down royal pussy to keep it

>>383538328
>that canned sequel with the retarded romance between Ashe and Basche

>>383536804
be a man
go all samurai

>>383538295
>concerning the ultimate weapon

The Zodiac Spear is that strong? It doesn't have a high combo percentage

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It's been out for free for years.

>>383527897
I beat him first try, he really isn't all that hard.

>>383524789
Faust made some new great FF12 art. I think it's canon.

https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/6142906

>>383538665
One of the ultimate weapons, anyway. I prefer the Tournesol myself.

Worst game in series that marked decline of the franchise is getting an hd port. What exactly did you wanna talk about OP?

>>383536804
Don't stress over it. This game isn't hard really. Just buy all the gambits and arrange them for total ownge. Getting good with gambits makes this game easy if you make a good chain of commands. It'll let you play this games battles in auto pilot if you have a good gambit chain. It's actually kinda cool, becoming a master tactician with those gambits. I would always try to find gambit setups that would let me beat enemies and bosses without touching the controller.

>>383538764
how stoked are you for season 9?

>>383539430
>marked decline of the franchise
That is a very funny joke.

Is Dustia chaining still possible?

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>>383538003
I give a fuck about Penelo if you catch my drift.

>>383526069
>The stain of Raithwall's blood shall be washed clean from history's weave!

Say what you want about the rest of the game but the voice acting and writing is top fucking tier.

>>383529191
>star wars did the hero's journey first

Yeah make sure to buy all gambits. The system is a lot better when you have full control of it.

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>>383539621
>tfw Larry dies before it airs

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FF12 is the king of wasted potential for the series

>ivalice horribly underutilized
>literally only one non-human in the party and she's pretty much irrelevant
>Viera are ruined forever by being turned into generic tree-hugger GET OUT OF HERE OUTLANDER jerks
>Nu Mou are beaten bloody with the ugly stick
>Airships a major feature in all promotional material only to amount to nothing but 2 dungeons and a pair of inconvenient fast travel methods completely eclipsed by teleport stones
>every single character except maybe Balthier is boring and bland and flat
>story mostly takes place on the other side of the world while your party just runs around in circles
>Archadia is roughly 4 empty zones with nothing to do but a lame npc dating quest
>Espers are generally useless outside of incredibly specific circumstances (or Zodiark)

>>383536426
Larsa cucks Basch in the trashed sequel.

>>383540192
>>literally only one non-human in the party and she's pretty much irrelevant
Not an issue.
Having more races as playable would've only cheapened the experience of the setting.

>>383538431
What was wrong with if?

>>383540294
Except the entire party sucks and has no chemistry, so it's still a failure. Anything would have been better than the bland patrol.

>>383540192
>except Balthier
WELL EXCUSE ME PRINCESS. IM DA LEADING MAN. FATHER WHY ARE YOU BETTER THAN ME?!

Overrated character.

>>383540316
The forced romance for one, part of what made FF12 refreshing for some was that romance was barely existent in it. Not to mention the game was apparently going to be made by a bunch of chucklefuck americans who probably would have butchered the gameplay in some way.

>>383540472
He's not great but he's better than

>boring irrelevant street urchin
>even more irrelevant street urchin
>irrelevant 'wise' chewbacca with tits and ass and nothing to do
>Strong tough guy who has exactly zero character moments after being introduced, even taking his evil brother's final meltdown with vaguely disinterested nonchalance
>dull Princess who passively goes along with what everyone else suggests and then doesn't.

>>383539430
FF13 doesn't need a remake yet though.

>>383540192
wrong on literally every fucking point. Jesus christ anon.

>>383540654
>le wise cracking suave guy who has no background except MUH PAST
Hes the same shit.

>>383540870
Please explain to me how airships are a primary gameplay element of the game where we were told over and over how AIRSHIP related this amazing AIRSHIP world was where they literally named the AIRSHIPS after the summons from previous games.

>>383540608
>read info about sequel
>Basch imprisoned
>Ashe cucks him and married Larsa while hes captured
>then Basch dies
AHHHH

>>383541014
1. you were never promised amazing airship gameplay or that it would be a big deal
2. All the airship names are summon callbacks. One of your party members is a skypirate and you can ride in the Strahl almost whenever you want. The main antagonist's entire plan was to build a fucking sky fortress and named it Bahamut, its a pretty big part of what the story was doing if you bothered to play it to the end. He was building a physical version of the mystical realm the Occuria ruled mortals from, emulating the same idea.

You are some special kind of stupid man. You obviously didn't play the game. You are too stupid to understand it and lash out at it. Want me to refute any of your other points or are you sufficiently placated and understand you are retarded?

>>383541023
It's like DmC, just not quite as retarded

Is there a reason a lot fo the espers are named after former badguys in the series? Is there an origin in FF for ones that arent?

>Fighting Gilgamesh in the mines
>He pulls out swords throughout the fight
>The final most ultimate powerful sword is Lotos sword from DQ.
Best Gilgamesh fight in the series.

>>383541375
>One of your party members is a skypirate and you can ride in the Strahl almost whenever you want

A shitty fast travel system superseded by teleport stones

>The main antagonist's entire plan was to build a fucking sky fortress and named it Bahamut

A two room dungeon.

I especially love how bahamut is pulled completely out of Vayne's arse right at the end of the game with almost zero buildup because the writers realised they had no pressing reason for the party to actually need to quickly confront him. They even for some reason have him pilot the thing over Rabanastre just so the rebels can fight him over the city so we can frame the event as 'RABANASTRE IS IN DANGER'.

The one random npc who mentions the construction of a big airship in the Archadia slums was probably added later just so they could try and pretend there was some sort of buildup to it.

>>383541508
Think they were just trying something different, not to mention they were using the regular summon names for the airships.

>>383541508
Callbacks like alot of FF games do. In tactics only 6 (I think) of the espers are known so in XII they filled the rest out with typical FF-style fanfare. The ones not named after FF villians are all named after Jewish or other semitic Gods and dieties.

>>383541596
Him being comic relief is only heightened by being the same VA as Bender Bending Rodriguez.

>>383529156
>No OSB

You're not worthy.

>>383541669
So I refuted your point and you are gonna swim in circles around your original flawed argument. Just kill yourself my man. Face it man, you are the pleb you claim to hate, really. You failed to understand something relatively easy to grasp and now lash out not because it didn't make sense, but because YOU didn't see it coming. You even claim there was evidence of it, but claim it "must have been added last minute" to justify it. Maybe, just maybe, you're just a retard. They've been calling all the airships after old summon names. Did you once ask yourself where the biggest baddest summon Bahamut was? Did your mind ever try thinking for a change or did you just shovel more doritos in your mouth?

>>383541718
You mean Wakka "Better dead than Al Bhed" Wakka

>>383542008
You accuse me of ignoring your point, yet your posts are nothing but weak little ad hominem remarks. You're even succumbing to childishly demanding I kill myself, as if I'm supposed to be intimidated by you or something. Why don't you give it it a rest and leave the arguments to us civilized sort?

>>383542178
Did John DiMaggio really do Wakka's voice? I never listened well enough to hear it or he covered his samey voice up pretty well.

>>383524789
If this game came out today /v/ would shitpost about wanting to fuck fran in every thread

>>383542367
It's pretty obvious when you've heard a lot of his roles like Bender, Dr. Drakken, and Jake.

>>383542310
Because you yourself admitted it was foreshadowed in your own post while not using your head. You honestly seem like the kind of person to skip over cutscenes then complain about missing the plot. Everything you complained about is a non issue or straight up explained better than you give credit for.

You also claim Archadia is 4 empty zones with nothing to do in them.
>Did you finish the cuckatrice quest?
>Did you finish the hunt club quest? All 80?
>Did you do the full Necrohol dungeon?
>Did you realize the vendor in Old Archades is the only place 90% of her merch can be bought much like the Barheim Passage vendor?
All of these quests or places need a sidequest from Archadia to do. I'm guessing you didn't since you think the areas are empty. Further evidence you either didn't play the game enough so your stupid points are invalid, you won't even listen to a reasonable response about them, or you are just shitposting and you should be shitposted back at.

>>383525704
NEVER EVER this year.

>>383542004
It's gated from me by being on shit banners. Hoping for it from a lucky draw or her usb banner.

>>383529191
Yeah easy to see star wars similarities in FFXII

>Luke
Vaan
>Leia
Ashe
>Han and Chewie
Balthier and Fran
>Lando and Cloud City
Ondore and Bhujerba
>Death Star
Bahamut

Got the attack on the death star at the end.

Judges appearing a bit as Darth Vader also helps.

>>383542756
I said the Bahamut had 'almost zero buildup', addressing that random npc dialogue as being that almost.

You accuse me of skipping cutscenes, but you skip over the very posts you're attempting to argue.

You're just digging you're hole deeper anon.

>>383542978
Don't forget about going to Cloud City and having Lando sell them out claiming it was for the good of his city, only to regain his place as a goodguy in the end

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>>383542178

>>383542978
Is Balthier Obi Wan?

>>383543057
How do you have this level of congnative dissonance?
If the NPC talks about the ship before it shows up (hours before) then it didn't just "show up". Thats what I'm saying you retard. Your entire premise is it came out of left field when there is the evidence YOU gave, being direct, and the evidence I gave, being indirect (ship names/where's Bahamut?).

You held an incorrect stance on the topic from the outset and are just upset that I reasoned it so easily. Get over it man, it thru you for a loop and you are upset over it. I get it, I'd be upset too if I were that dumb.

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>>383524789
I see Fran's butt and I become happy. Its the simple stuff in life.

>>383542978
Penelo is R2D2

Even more than the star wars similarities/homages I prefer the homages to the earlier FF games

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>>383543338
A single random meaningless npc in the middle of a slum whispering a vague line of dialogue that only suggests the presence of something later is still left field you idiot.

It's clear now you have no idea how good writing works at all and are just some sort of diehard XII apologist.

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>>383542620
when the game came out everyone kept talking about how they wanted to fuck Fran.

As for me, I'm a man of refined taste.

What would you guys suggest I do with Zeromus? Seems like the best choices are either Bushi for the magick lores, or Knight/TimeMage for addle/shear, though I'm not sure how useful that would be since my party already has a dedicated breaker.

>WhiteMage/Machenist
Famfrit
>Shikari/Breaker
Shemhazi
Zalera
Adrammelech
>Knight/TimeMage
Belias
Hasmal
Ultima
>Bushi/Knight
Mateus
>BlackMage/Monk
Zodiark
Chaos
>Archer/RedMage
Cuchulainn

>>383543817
I still don't understand Ashe's outfit. It just looks really weird and out of place compared to what other styles in Rabanastre suggest.

>>383543796
Nah man, the game has a ton of flaws, the story just isn't one of them. The pacing is messy so it gives the fact that the one NPC is Old Arcadia mentioning a rumor hours before said rumor comes to fruition a little iffy. Did you also forget the guys in Draklor talking about the new tech Cid has been working on for Vayne? What about the marvel that the empire can now travel without Mist?

Yeah I'm guessing you didn't pick up on those other foreshadowing events. I'll admit I'm sperging but you have to see you just don't know all the facts then spouted an opinion without knowing what you were talking about.

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Steelbook edition baby.

>>383544118
please tell me you don't have to kill him to get the bestiary complete. I know how hard he is to spawn.

oh nice the most boring game in existence is coming out tommorow. With its gear check, auto attack mmo combat. Good thing they put a in a speed up function. Playing this game is equivalent to putting ones brain in a frying pan and watching it sizzle.

>>383524789
Game still all about playing itself? Cause in the original it had horrendous gameplay.

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>>383544237
>Nah man, the game has a ton of flaws, the story just isn't one of them

I'm not going to list every single problem I have with the story because I've been in this thread too long as it is but I'll just leave you with this gigantic plot hole. A plot hole so big it actually serves as a major dungeon.

>we destroyed the cryst! Now the Occuria can't tempt man with any more nethicite!

Yeah uh... aren't you guys forgetting something? The party literally comments on the GC saying that there's enough there to destroy the goddamn world.

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Is this getting a midnight release on PSN? Is there a preload?

>>383544351
Don't know about him, but you'll have to for rare games.

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>>383526237
Ruby Rose?

>>383544515
The Treaty-Blade and the Sword of Kings are needed to cut nethecite. Why do you think Raithwall always had the blade with him? 1 cuts nethecite from the GC, one banishes the mist. The blades were gifts from the Occuria, mortals didn't know how to forge them and they are gone after the events at Pharos. Its all fucking explained. YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO A THING THE GAME TOLD YOU!

>>383544985
The Treaty blade is never destroyed. It's in your inventory right to the end. Only the Sword of Kings is destroyed when Reddas attacks the cryst.

And the treaty blade was outright conjured up on the spot by the Occuria. There's absolutely nothing to suggest they couldn't make more.

>>383544515
How far into the game was the Great Crystal? I think that might've been where I stopped playing. It was either there or the Shifting Sands or Shifting Dunes or whatever.

I'm curious how far I got into the game before I dropped it because of the title's unfocused nature. Very excited for Zodiac Age. I played an English iso of IZJS years ago and I LOVED that.

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>>383544658
Now you're talking

>>383545165
Aren't the Occuria banished properly by the end of the game? They also seem to play by their own rules while they can "play" and I'd find it hard to believe they could do anything after Ashe rejects them and their offer, then kills their source of connection to the mortal realm.

>>383545215
Great Crystal is right after the feywood. There's a lot of stuff that happens between the Yensa sandseas and the Great Crystal. Its closer to the endgame than the beginning but there's still a good amount of content after it also.

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>6 characters
>12 class

>>383545432
You only kill Venat. The Occuria's role in the story is to tempt Ashe to kill the empire, offer her the treaty blade and point her to the cryst so she can get some nethicicte for herself. They never show up again or intervene in any other way.

>then kills their source of connection to the mortal realm.

What? What are you talking about? The Cryst is just a particularly juicy junk of nethicite.

>>383545602
You can choose two for each character in this version.

>>383545602
You can give each one 2 jobs, brohan

>>383545707
Well that's pretty fucking great, do you unlock them at same time?

>>383545582
So close to the middle of the game then? Cool, excited to see all the stuff I missed.

>>383545604

The Occuria aren't mortals, they exist on a different plane normally. They need to interact with mortals in specific ways. Only Venat showed an ability to even exist on the physical plane, but only as an illusion or ghost, never physical. In short, they are pure magical beings, the body you see is just their shell, holding them together. I might be misremembering but I thought I read in the second page of one of the bestiary entries that they were banished from our realm due to their meddling. Something about Raithwall accepting their offer, then fucking them over.

>>383545869
I believe you do, or at least you have access to all before long so you're able to decide which jobs you want for the party.

>>383545990
Right after the middle I'd say. If you petered out there last time, I'd say just grab an online map of the place and be done with it. The Great Crystal and the dungeon right after it, the Pharos at Ridorana, are the biggest dungeons in the game. Luckily you only explore a portion of each when you first go there. The second portions are totally extra dungeons. The GC has some crazy endgame optional bosses/espers but sucks due to the layout (seriously, use a map).

>>383546018
The bestiary just says the Occuria voluntarily chose to stop directly ruling over mortal kind. Which is even more distressing because it suggests that at any given point they might change their minds.

You might be thinking of the Espers.

>>383541718
>>383542367
>>383542178
John DiMaggio voiced Kimahri and Wakka in FFX and Miguelo and Gilgamesh in XII.

>>383546236
I feel like 4x speed will help a lot. I remember just getting sick of the constant backtracking I had to do because I kept getting lost. I feel like the fast forward will help alleviate a lot of the frustrations I had. That said, I'll turn to a map this time if I feel myself getting super lost again.

>>383541718
>>383541508
Those six are also call-backs to the first tactics where addramelch, cucuhlan, belias, famfrit, ultima, zalera and zodiark where all bosses

>>383543475
Biggs and Wedge are named soldiers in XII somewhere but nothing huge with them. (Which counts as an homage to both)

>>383542178
>Wakka 'If I see swirly eyes, the motherfucker dies' Captain of the Aurochs
>Wakka 'Better dead than Al Bhed' Captain of the Aurochs
>Wakka 'Born in the sand, nuke their land' Captain of the Aurochs
>Wakka 'If it's against Yevon, it's going to heaven' Captain of the Aurochs
>Wakka 'Really dislikes the Al Bhed Psyches' Captain of the Aurochs

>>383546589
Neat, i didnt play tactics

>>383527913
Which ones are shitty

>>383546309
Interesting. I've never played TA2 or Revanent Wings, there may be more lore there that would answer it.

All I know about the espers is they were the dark halves to the light halves and won (meaning the light half lost). I didn't read more into them but the idea that the bad versions won their cosmic fight was telling for the world lore.

>>383546492
Fast Forward will definitely help, just be wary lategame. Any area level 55+ monster range you will find alot of enemies that cast nasty status ailments constantly, and mix them up for maximum annoyance. You can set up some gambits to alleviate it but some combos are annoying as fuck (special moves that give confuse AND silence is a big one) so I wouldn't fast forward too many fights at that lvl.

Here's how I planned while playing
>Do Hunts if you have them, listen to the little side stories of the hunt givers, it'll usually end up giving a key item relating to other fun quests
>explore area said hunt is at
>when you unlock the Rare Game Hunt club look up how to spawn the 30 new ones cause their spawn method might be obscure enough you won't know if you are in the right area but just had bad luck
>roll that info into your hunts and exploring areas
>keep up with the hunts and rare game and all other sidequests will take care of themselves
You'll find yourself spending a lil time setting up what your doing but you'll spend alot less time aimlessly running around doing nothing constructive

>>383546589
The REAL callbacks, based on the first 4 bosses of the FF franchise
Chaos - FF1 boss chaos
Mateus - FF2 boss Emporer
Famfrit - FF3 boss Death Cloud
Zeromus - FF4 boss Zeromus
Exodus might reference EX-Death

>>383544515
>Great Crystal
"Is that nethecite?
"I wonder"
"with that much nethecite in ones grasp -"
"you could destroy all of Ivalice"

>>383545602
FF1 had 4 slots with 6 classes.
It means you have to make decisions giving the game more variety and adding meaning to your choice.

>>383542978
>Luke
Basch
>Leia
Ashe
>Han and Chewie
Balthier and Fran
>Lando and Cloud City
Ondore and Bhujerba
>Death Star
Bahamut
>Darth Vader
Gabranth
>The Senate
The Archadian whatever council
>Palpatine
Vayne
>???????
Larsa?

Anybody else I'm missing

>>383546590
Yeah.

I was thinking more of non general ff tropes though.

Like how Alexander and Bahamut are about to fight over Protagonist city.
or "the Galuf-Val has fallen"

>>383543941
yeah but its hot

>>383547771
>Biggs and Wedge
Higgs and Bedge or something like that. All they do is change some letters. Its weird because they've been in most FF games and the most Star Wars-y one doesn't have them properly.

>>383544615
>>383544351
>>383544118
Could never get the fucker to spawn in my run, and I tried for hours. You don't have to kill him for completion because his bestiary entry is shared with regular Chocobo's.

>>383544351
He's not hard to spawn, just do the Break trick and you'll get him eventually.

>>383547771
But Vayne wasn't actually all that evil. He wanted to change the world for the better, free of the Occuria and their influence. Nothing at all like Palpy

>>383547771
Vaan and Penelo as 3P0 and R2.

>>383543817
I mean, sure I would go with Ashe over Fran as long as Larsa hadn't been inside her already, but I would probably take Penelo first if she let her hair down

>>383548026
Then who the fuck is he a mirror of?

>>383529006
>Gotta learn to love the environment and wander Salikawood aimlessly
Or, like you, for get you have the console on for days at a time.

>>383547538
Revenant wings and TA2 both feature them only in passing mention and in the exact same way. Namely that they sealed nasty horrible things away which come out to serve as bosses.

That's it.

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>>383524789
Still on the fence about getting it. Played and enjoyed it originally but there were a lot of shitty fucking grinding parts of the original and not to mention how treasure works (all treasure having an absurdly low % of not being a knot of rust) fucking pissed me off and I more so completed it out of having already wasted so much goddamn time.

>>383547906
It'd be hot for me if it was more like Fran's. Fran's looks like an unreal, exotic piece of armoured lingerie. Ashe's looks like a mix of bits and pieces of other outfits that individually might look fine if they were in the right ensemble but together look like a mess.

And her skirt just looks like an ugly flap of rubber, like she's wearing a giant pink wellie over her ass. It's distracting.

To say nothing of what Penelo is wearing. I still don't really understand it.

>>383548243
apparently they added a ton of new chests, took away the chest requirement for the Zodiac spear, and made chests spawn all the time and fill back up when you zone out and back. They must have taken some of the feedback to heart and really tried to fix it.

Played it and 100%ed it all thanks to the fastforward of PCSX2. Took me 10 hours total over a course of 4 days to kill Yiazmat and that's with accidentally not leaving quick enough before he regened up to quarter health from 10%

>>383548407
>and made chests spawn all the time and fill back up when you zone out and back
So you're saying the ribbon ISN'T permanently missable now? Fucking hell yes.

So I just heard that you can have two (2) jobs in XII now

How does it work? Do you switch between them or do you have access to everything you've unlocked for both?

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>>383547538
>Exodus might reference EX-Death
yeah

>>383548464
>>383548464
You can still have a chance of getting a knot of rust, but if you do just zone and come back and the chest will be there 100% of the time and unopened again.

>>383547538
Exodus is Exdeath's original Japanese name.

>>383545362
Source?

>>383547771
>>Luke
>Basch
I know you don't like Vaan and think Basch should've been the main character, but Vaan is clearly a better fit for Lukes arc than Basch.

>>383548735
True, Basch is probably closer to Obi-Wan.

>>383548652
>>383548712
I figured it was. The change for us was because of religious people or perceived anger by them if we used exodus wasn't it?

>FF12 HD
>.hack//G.U. HD
I like this.

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>>383548652

>>383548712
Yeah, no. Exdeath or X-death is the appropriate romanisation of the Japanese name. Exodus is a full on rookie mistake translation.

>>383548132
Nobody because the cast isn't that neatly a reflection of the Star Wars cast?

>>383548895
>Exodus
I can see why.
Exdeath = Eksudesu when you're a jap person trying to mimic english words.

>>383548998
>Eksudesu

I can't stop imagining Exdeath saying desu

>>383548998
That's exactly why it's a rookie mistake though, Exodus is eksudasu and only to the untrained ear do they sound much alike.

>>383543941
She's a princess trying not to dress as a princess in the public. She probably had no idea what she was doing when she picked it out.

>>383549216
ff5 mod where exdeath ends every line with desu when?

>>383549308
But bits and pieces of the outfit look regal. Not a very good disguise. She sticks out like a sore thumb. She doesn't even cover her face.

>>383545602
how the fuck is that a bad thing? you want yet another shitty linear rpg with no replayability?

>>383549451
I didn't say she did a good job. I just wish the microskort was a microskirt

>>383549308
I figured since Rassler was from Nabradia and their marriage would have strengthened relations she wore clothes from his homeland as a mourning thing. One of her cutscenes has her upset that people only thought their marriage was political but she really loved Rassler with her whole heart.

>>383549460
maybe we should tell him about the super exclusive version where you can just level your characters however you want over an all inclusive license grid.

>>383524789
i cant afford it

>>383549584
I'll never stop being amused by how distracting Rasler's armour was the second you laid eyes on him, thinking 'damn look at that gaping exposed neck'.

Only to be completely vindicated within 5 minutes when he gets shot in that exact place.

>>383549679
or we could tell him about how in zodiac age each character can have 2 classes.

>>383529674
But there are no slow parts.

>>383549718
he didn't get shot in the neck, he got shot in the chest.

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>>383549718
You could say he was a victim of fashion.

>>383549915
Exactly, the neckline was so low it was a chestline.

>>383550000
nice quads rasler

>>383532514
And it could've been such an easy fix, too. There's an NPC bangaa called "Reks' Friend" that could've easily joined the cast and gave Vaan some more depth. Throw in a Garif as well and bam. Could even have had a Seeq/Moogle combo.

>>383533565
Even better when giving them all guns and going around blasting everything.

>>383550161
nah fuck off. humes and viera only shitter.

>>383529979
That image is a fucking classic.

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>>383548513
Access to both license boards. Very broken with certain combinations.

>>383529986
Robin Williams was the best Cid.

>>383540038
Probably some of the best in the business.

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>>383532514
I hope we get another Tactics game on a home console instead of a handheld. You could have every single race in your party.

>>383540608
>Not to mention the game was apparently going to be made by a bunch of chucklefuck americans

Thought it was a European studio.

>>383550821
tell matsuno to get off his ass and make one.

>>383550865
GRIN is European, yes.

>>383541508
XII takes place before Tactics. Technically, the Espers are the Lucavi, and Ashe unleashed them to utilize their power.

>>383550865
Eh, either way it's never a good idea to just hand off something like that to a foreign studio. Just look at the Silent Hill series.

>>383524789
I preordered it on Amazon because Steelbook, it wasn't suppose to arrive until between the 20th and 23rd... Amazon App just alerted me it shipped, Arrives tomorrow because I live 25 miles from a major Amazon hub... I was finally making progress on my back log, I could have finished three games before it showed up...

>>383525898
It's bad because sakaguchi and murota left the company on poor terms when the game was partly finished that's why only the fist third of the story is good

>>383546018
>>383546309
So are the Occuria meant to the the OG Gods of Ivalice? Or are they just the latest in a long line of deities trying to rule over everything?

>>383551545
I think they're the latter. They're powerful and able to influence things, but they aren't that omnipotent to do just whatever, otherwise they wouldn't be stuck in that weird dimension like chumps.

>>383551741
I'm not sure there's anything that implies they're stuck in Giruvegan.

"Many thousand years ago, all-powerful beings looked down upon the land, and their rule was absolute. They commanded all things on the earth. All was done according to their will. Then one day they withdrew behind the walls of a great city of their own making, disappearing from history's stage. In the vacuum left behind, Ivalice fell into chaos, until the march towards a new age finally began."

tldr: The Occuria pissed off on their own accord and there's nothing to imply they're incapable of going back to the oldschool.

>>383550821
>New FFT gets announced
>Plays similar to Valkyria Chronicles

>>383551890
Still seems like they can't do jack shit. Or they're just very autistic about how they want to control the world when they could blink everyone they don't like from existence like most deities.

>>383552491
Maybe ruling everything directly got boring and tiresome so they opted for this second-hand approach instead.

>>383552491
>>383551890
>>383551741
The Bestiary entries for the Espers mention a war between gods. Do we know whether it was the Occuria being warred against? Could be they came along after everything was left in shambles. Or the war significantly weakened them.

>>383552713
The Espers in the game are the dark halves of some divine gods. Only Zodiark and Exodus are the same for dark/light. The Dark Espers won the ancient battle. I don't know what happened to the light side of them afterwards.

The Occuria aren't them. I think the Occuria are pure magic somehow but didn't start that way. They can't do shit in our realm because they aren't physical like we are anymore so they control the physical reality thru proxies like Raithwall and gift them special weapons or artifacts that are so beyond what the people know of as normal that it influences history to move where they want it to.

So what would theoretically happen if the Occuria decided to influence the world directly again?

Would they just drop the great crystal onto invalice and nuke the shit out of everyone?

>>383550821
At this point the Ivalice raid series in XIV is the last we're gonna get.

>>383553296
Probably something involving mist poisoning the land and contorting everything into monstrosities.

>>383553393
Not quite, success of Zodiac Age will determine if the FFXII staff that were brought back together will do a new Ivalice game, Square said so themselves.

is the zodiac version completely playable with pcsx2? Like no glitches etc? Or should I just get the ps4 remaster?

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>>383524789
>be given entire world of Ivalice
>tons of races and species to choose fro.
>tons of potential crazy backstories for them due to how expansive Ivalice already is
>make every party member human except for a human with bunny ears
>make all of their backstories as bland and cookie cutter as possible
>even manage to make being a sky pirate sound boring

I will never understand.

>>383553873
The term "pirate" has been too watered down over the years anyway. But I guess "sailor" doesn't have the same romantic ring to it.

>>383553873
They overemphasized making the background details for the game so different from the typical FF fare that they missed the fact that the core game itself followed all the same old generic and played out rules.

>>383524789
Sauce on image? My dick demands it

Is the remake only on console?

>>383544282
Why did they not put the blue gabranth brush art on the white side. It would have been perfect. How could they fuck up something so simple.

>>383553873
>tons of races and species to choose fro.
Ah yes, such as fat reptile. The other fat reptile. Moogle. Such a grand catalog of species to pick from.

>>383554592
They'll "fix" it in the steam release then yell at you complaining about the e-manual not being physical.

Nips do this shit on purpose.

>>383554357
For now yes.

>>383554708
You forgot the Garif, Urutan-Yensa, and Baknamy.

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Gurdy IS

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holy shit I just fired up pcsx2 and forgot how great this game looked

>>383525898
It literally has the best story in the series...

>>383552286
No thank you

>>383555161
isn't there another Gurdy in another FF game

>>383553580
Fully playable with some oddities due to the translation patch. Zodiac Age does offer the 2 jobs per character and quadruple speed mode though.

>>383554708
>>383555092
And Rev.

>>383555827
Most likely FFTA, TA2, or Revenant Wings.

>>383553580
It's fully playable with no visual oddities unless you get a rare buggy build.

>>383555961
There's a save editor so you can have 2 jobs on PS2 versions too and if you uncap the FPS you're far above 4x speed.

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>>383555827
>>383556290
Actually he's in an IX spinoff instead (or at least what is very very heavily implied to be a IX spinoff given the sheer number of references to it).

Reminder that the original CC had some very fucked up shit in it, including a small child murdering his amnesiac delirious father who remembers who he is as he dies.

>>383524789
i got it yesterday desu here are my grips so far:

>ye old save page is gone in ps4 version
>enemies/npc vanish draw distance is slightly annoying; they would vanish after a certain short distance
>the bestiary images is replaced with 3d model of the actual thing, you can rotate it but you cant zoom in for some reason. slightly disappointing
>npcs tend to blur if you stepped away from them

Other than that, pretty noice so far

>>383556665
>>>ye old save page is gone in ps4 version

That's a weird change.

>>383556665
>>npcs tend to blur if you stepped away from them
The game is overall blurry as hell compared to pcsx2. It is 1080p but they have massive amounts of random blur filters on top of it.

>>383556665
At least if there's any single thing that would get patched it would be the DOF
If it would, hopefully it wouldn't take almost half a year like Type-0's insane motion blur did

How old is Fran?

also vaan starts with a dagger rather than the mythril blade.

oh and they skipped the whole intro, just straight to the main menu

feel free to ask me anything. i just beated the mimic queen and on my way to Mieglo to see penelo.
>>383556714
yep, sad too
>>383556736
eh , i did see some improvements, nothing too jaw dropping tho

>>383556970
I'd say 80-90. She probably had that falling-out with big sis when she was (by Viera standards) pretty young.

>>383556902
there was a 130 mb patch as i started the game

VERY short loading times, no stuttering or an issue.

i also wanna say that they added new props but i am not so sure because i dont remember seeing seeq skeletons in the dungeon.

there was an aquara mote, which is basically a water mote.

>>383557235
Can you now cast stronger versions of Water?

>>383557397
no clue

i bought magic from burrogh, the guy at bahriem passage. the giza plains girl and the bazzar (decoy) that's it. let me check the main magick shop


in the first two, i couldnt find the blizzard spell which could have made the mimic queen much easier.

>>383557080
Unlock a second board yet? Thoughts on it?

>>383557750
You can normally buy blizzard just before the mimic stuff in the dungeon if you mean the electricity shit. You might wanna do a bit of dustia grinding for cash early off if it's a problem. All the gambits being available right away sucks early game money fast.

>>383529191
The cover looks more like episodes 7 if anything

>>383544562

>most important questions go unanswered

>>383544562
Yes and yes. It did in Australia, at least.

>>383556546
>Reminder that the original CC had some very fucked up shit in it, including a small child murdering his amnesiac delirious father who remembers who he is as he dies.

when was this?
was this the lore of a stage or an NPC story?

Anybody else having issues with the movement being janky? If I press the stick forward it's not consistent and the character will either run or walk. Sometimes he'll just stop mid motion. I have a feeling it might be my controller since I had the same issue in another game, but I just wanted to make sure

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Do you guys think this will drop in price quickly?
I'd love to play it, but I've already have enough games I want to plow through, right now.