Kotor 2 thread DISCUSS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER MADE

You play as Darth Revan.
There whole game spoiled for you.

I can't get into it because it's so dated and shoddy.

>>383525126
>kotor 2

lrn 2 read

what the fuck has happened to this board

>>383525538
She practically tells you she's going to betray you from the beginning, now fuck off.

>>383525538
Except she didn't

pretzel

>>383524673
I wanted to replay KOTOR series.
Currently at Tatooine in KOTOR 1 (already finished Kashyyyk and Korriban) and I'm finding the willpower to continue.
Writing is too simple and childish for the most part
Companions are shit
Combat is shit
Everything feels so lifeless and empty
Yet I've already invested 25 hours into it so I'm obliged to finish it.
I'm optimistic about KOTOR 2 since it actually had some interesting writing and companions to keep you occupied.
KOTOR 1 certainly didn't age well at all

File: Handmaiden_Sister.jpg (32KB, 432x576px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 432x576px

Who's best waifu? My vote goes to Handmaiden.

>>383525603
A pokemon furry discord spam created like 100 threads at the same time which pushed every thread into 404.

It's pretty smart but the admins deleted them all instantly and even saved a few bigger threads from the archives. It was a lot of effort for nothing.

>>383524673
I finished it last week and didnt really understand much. i havent played kotor I, so maybe that is where i fucked up in first place. but still, everything seemed so convoluted, when it came to this "wound in the force" mambo jambo

>>383525771
>I'm optimistic about KOTOR 2
You are now remembering Peragus and Taris

>>383525859
Tell me specifically what you didn't understand and I'll explain it to you.

>>383525773
>Canon Exile is female
>You can't have the handmaiden if you're not male
I didn't install the mod that changes that fast enough

>>383525976
>Taris
Telos

>>383525771
How the fuck did you manage to take 25 hours to finish Taris, Dantooine, Kashyyk, and Korriban?

>>383525976
Jokes on you, I actually liked those parts
Better than Taris.
Atton and Kreia banter is god tier

I'm so happy even during a board apocalypse these threads are still here. Just like I'm always happy we KOTOR 2 bros police /v/ and make sure to sagebomb all moralfag threads and make sure they can't take root. Are we THE most dependable fandom on /v/ bros?

File: h87xEdq.png (464KB, 678x445px) Image search: [Google]

464KB, 678x445px

>>383526043
>Canon Exile is female

Fuck that, Jedi Jesus or go home.

>>383525773
Visas Marr, obviously.

>>383525771
KOTOR II definitely feels a lot less empty and less childish, but if you know how to roll a good character you'll be hitting ~90 damage per round by the time you leave Telos.

>>383526156
I have an autistic obsession to talk to every NPC, check out every corner on the map and do every shitty side quest.
Also, I get to get a bit carried away when playing Pazaak.

>>383526258
How can a Christcuck play this game and not have massive cognitive dissonance?

YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU DON'T USE BLASTERS AND MINIMUM FORCE POWERS

>>383525976
peragus was ok tBh, pretty short and gives you the basics while introducing key charactes and giving you back story if you bother exploring
telos was a bit stale though, but the worst part in my opinion was the restoration zone, mostly because of how unfinished it seemed

Canon exile is male, jesus face and dual wields blasters (he doesn't use a lightsaber) he also turned every potential jedi companion into a jedi

>>383526368
I guess that's fair, I know where all the quests are now and I know everyone's dialogue so when I play it goes a lot faster. Also I only ever play Pazaak when it's required by a quest or to do one-off things like that guy that gives you the increasing stakes in tatooine.

>>383526490
Because I'm using nothing but mines and grenades instead

>>383526502
>how unfinished it seemed
So the entire game

>>383524673
LOL Kotor 2 was shit just like Kotor. Nothing Star Wars has ever been good.

File: afjggw.jpg (43KB, 600x480px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 600x480px

>>383526262
>It is good that you have never wondered what lay beneath her robes, if her alabaster skin was as white and unblemished as her face. Or if perhaps she bore the scars of slavery... and if that would stir you more. Perhaps her deferent tone would change once you held her by the throat, and showed her how far a Jedi can fall.

Why is Kreia so lewd?

>>383526653
good post
upvoted

File: 1477596086642.gif (1MB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 300x300px

>>383526467
>You must agree with every point of view presented in a fucking video game

>>383525771
>Writing is too simple and childish for the most part.

Stopped reading right there. Opinion is invalidated due to the fact it's incorrect.

reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z0S0Z8lUTg

>>383526729
In this game's specific case if you don't you're literally retarded and probably enjoy moralfag-centric fiction.

>>383524673
Got to the point where you have to board the OP's pictures boss and the game crashes EVERY TIME. Different copies same, Fan patches same. Game was a shit show of bugs not even the fans could fix.

>>383526467
It's just a nickname you fucking autist. Go tip your fedora somewhere else.

File: 1492839692178.png (218KB, 387x400px) Image search: [Google]

218KB, 387x400px

>>383526843

File: JediExileHanddrawn.jpg (280KB, 508x864px) Image search: [Google]

280KB, 508x864px

>>383526258
Nah man, Meetra Surik FTW

>>383526937
Hit a nerve Christcuck? This whole game brilliantly shits on your desert cult.

>>383526889
You're just plain unlucky I guess, that restoration mod fixes up the game pretty decently

>>383526667
jedi academy was fun

>>383526976
The narrative was clearly designed for a male Exile.

>>383526315
>if you know how to roll a good character
How do I obtain this knowledge?

>>383525859
Ok so during the Mandalorian Wars the Exile was a general, and had a penchant for forming force bonds with his men
Force bonds are powerful ties between people that allow people to connect and share strength with each other
During the battle of Malachor V, the Exile ordered the use of the Shadow Mass Generator to fuck with Malachor V's gravity and basically sunder the whole planet while a fuckload of his men were still on the surface. This severed a bunch of force bonds at once, almost killing him and pretty much cutting him off from the force completely
This leaves the Exile as a wound in the force, an absence where force sensitives are drawn to as he draws upon and uses their strength as his own
Darth Nihilus is basically the same but taken to its extreme

>>383527098
How so? Actually curious, knew female was canon so I never played with male Exile

>>383527245
You can do anything you want at character creation and you'll still be a demigod by the end of the game.

>>383527098
More like they worked on Male Exile first but didn't get enough time to expand on Female Exile.

You gonna say that Female Revan was meant to be canon since the game refers to them with female pronouns at first?

>>383527098
True but when Lucasarts back in the day had control they dictated female as THE canon.

Then again all EU canon has been made void so who cares.

>>383526775
Don't tell me that Malak is actually a good villain.
The only part of the game that actually is somewhat interesting is Korriban and Rakatan planet. All the dialogue choices for quests are either "I have no need for a reward M'lady" or "I'm gonna kill you if you don't give me all your credits"

The only acceptable female Exiles are the qt asian girl with braids and the bastila mod.

Yes, /v/?

>>383525976
Peragus is fine, and Citadel Station is also fine (aside from the TSF being the most incompetebt police force of all time), the planet's surface is the only shitty part but that last for like an hour max.

>>383527098
I remember the rage from the betacucks like you when FemExile was revealed to be canon. Good times.

Anyways, the entire EU is non-canon. You guys do realize that Revan/Exile's gender is up to change in current canon right?

>>383527098
not really

File: 351062-baodurfulltelos.jpg (29KB, 408x640px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 408x640px

I wish Bao-Dur would read me stories before bedtime
His voice is so soothing and relaxing

>>383527515
It's not that the EU is not canon. It is canon, within its own universe. Disney and LucasArts simply made another alternate Star Wars universe. Why do people not understand this???

>>383526889
Try deleting the actual movie file that makes the cutscene when you launch the game, or maybe try using console commands to teleport yourself to the ship. I had a similar thing happen to me with a cutscene in the first game and deleting the file just made the game skip it.

>>383527891
General

>>383527891
The best bathroom recording i've ever heard

One of the best RPGs made for sure, top 3 probably. And top 10 games of all time for me.

>>383527352
The Handmaiden is a superior companion to the Disciple, your relationship with Atris as a male Exile is superior to that of the female Exile with Sion, and because the romantic undertones with Visas and Handmaiden with the male Exile are superior to the romantic undertones with Atton and the Disciple for female Exiles.

>>383527559
no
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=486299564&searchtext=

>>383528095
>>383527410

Why is every fanfiction on fanfiction.net femrevan and bastilla romance (sometimes tri-romance with juhani)

>>383528095
>I prefer the male storyline to the female therefore the narrative was clearly designed for the male

>>383528226
>gross dyke

nope qt asian girl and bastila all the way

File: 1499378020655.gif (48KB, 832x624px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 832x624px

>>383527245
while >>383527402 is true, you can steamroll the game by
>Rolling a consular
>Focus on DEX as primary stat
>Remaining points into WIS and CHA
>Max out the dual wielding feat (just use blasters until you can get lightsabers, you'll be playing support until then)
>Max out force speed for double attack per round
>Get Lightsaber finesse feat so you can roll your DEX bonuses into raw damage
>Dual class into a Weapons Master/whatever the sith variant is when you eventually get the option to

Haven't played in a while and I'm sure there's some useful feats or technicalities I'm forgetting, but that's the bones of it.

>>383528351
Why are you reading KOTOR fanfiction?

>>383526490
>Not being an unarmed Force monk

There's nothing like beating a someone using a lightsaber with your bare fucking hands, or blocking blaster shots with your palms.

I keep getting burnt out trying to get max influence with everyone and ended up stopping to play at Nar Shadda. Im not going to bother with influence now. Which party members should I focus on in my first run? Im going light side since dark side is still the same evil greedy douche option

>>383527245
Get force lightning
Win the game

>>383528442
I have a bad habit of checking the fanfiction.net for a game or book I finish because I read a few really really good harry potter ones and hope other things have stuff like that

>>383528458
I did that for a playthrough, I had a ton of trouble with krelia final boss though

>>383528226
>Using workshop
Most mods overwrite the same few files and workshop won't resolve those conflicts. You have to use TSLpatcher if you want to stack mods. This is less me chastising you and more of a PSA.

>>383528509
Mira, you're gonna need to get her influence up. Atton as well, it will be useful for the future.

>>383528509
Atton, Kreia, Handmaiden, and Visas are great characters to focus on
Your entire party gains experience together so it really doesn't matter who you focus you can pretty much swap it up whenever you want

>>383528509
Visas, Atton

>>383525859
>"wound in the force"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qLzsIhUMk
echoes and stuff in 2:16

>>383528509
I don't think it's possible to get max influence with everyone in one run. The last time I played I just used the save editor to set everyone's influence to 100 so I could get all the dialogue I wanted before ending my run.

>>383528647
>Your entire party gains experience together
I like how this mechanic goes hand in hand with the lore of the game. Really makes you think.

>>383528509
Just cheat and use the Kotor Editor Tool, or whatever it's called, to max their influence.

>>383528805
Games making the mechanics part of the story is one of my favorite things. I LOVE that they ask you why you thought you were getting stronger by murdering people.

>>383528762
>I don't think it's possible to get max influence with everyone in one run.
It is possible. I've seen the guide.

>>383528647
>>383528684
>>383528641
Good thing I maxed Atton already. I think I specced him wrong since he's so mediocre as a Sentinal. Will focus on Visas Handmaiden and Kreia then. Do I need to max Visas or Handmaiden first or one will kill the other?
Dont see whats so great about Mira aside from her being the typical spunky bounty hunter girl

File: Bastila.jpg (157KB, 800x800px) Image search: [Google]

157KB, 800x800px

>>383525773
If we count Kotor 1, it's Bastila. She's so cute when you tease her.

>>383529074
If Visas' influence is EVER higher than Handmaiden before you max Handmaiden's then she will basically never talk to you again

>>383528736
>obi wan shook by all the death of alderaan which was probably several 100 lightyears away from his location
imagine being a force sensitive on malachor with all those jedi and sith being ripped apart around you. imagine the pain the exile must have felt when all those (s)he had formed bonds with was dying within seconds of each other
fucking brutal

>>383529173
Well shit, all these social link juggling is really killing my motivation to pick the game back up. Ill just use a save editor then.

>There's always a weekly KOTOR 2 thread
>But never a KOTOR 1 or SWTOR thread despite more playing them and knowing it

explain this

>>383529172
Too bad she's a copy-paste of Aribeth from NWN.

>>383529379
There's more to talk about with KOTOR 2 than the first game (and certainly more than the mmo).

>>383529329
If you set them all to 100 all at once and leave and re-enter the ebon hawk it will fire off between 5 and 10 cutscenes in a row

>>383529379
kotor2 is unique

>>383529252
Well, not only was the Exile Force sensitive he had also formed Force-bonds with most of the soldiers and Jedi on Malachor V, and it was his decision to activate the Mass Shadow Generator that killed them, so the pain must have been excruciating.

>>383529379
Pure autism fampai

>>383529379
KotOR 2 is genuinely good unlike those other ones. KotOR 1 is too generic and TOR is a fucking joke.

File: 1497473508078.jpg (85KB, 920x960px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 920x960px

>when you realize kreia didn't drain the life out of the jedi masters but instead cut them off from the force and since they've use the force so much they can't handle being cut from it and die

>>383529564
>he

>>383529789
>when you realize
>kreia literally says "see the universe through the eyes of the exile"
shouldn't be that hard to understand if i'm being perfectly honest with you fampai

>>383526467
>>383527014
>/r/atheism summerfag discovers /v/
And people say /v/ isn't the worst board

>>383529931
I only played it once before on xbox over ten years ago and never understood the story all that well

>>383529789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EtByaOxiwE

Pure kino.

>>383530156
I still get chills when I watch this

I wish female Revan and male exile was canon.

File: 1468633511327.jpg (23KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 640x480px

>>383527014

>This whole game brilliantly shits on your desert cult.

How? In KOTOR 2 the whole story (if you play LS) enables the player to make disciples/padawans, cure the sick and care for the homeless and needy with the central theme of redemption through saving the entire galaxy from the dangers/temptations of the DS. You haven't played the game at all.

>>383528937
>cheating in vidya
whats the fucking point then
Kotor 2 is ez as fuck anyways

>>383530156
Zez-Kai Ell and Kavar seemed close to understanding the Exile when confronted alone, but together the masters return to their usual, arrogant selves.

>>383529761
>the "TOR is bad" meme
It's a fucking atrocious MMO, but the class stories are good, certanly better than KOTOR.
I swear, the only thing I can do when I hear "TOR is crap, and not worthy of being KOTOR3" is roll my eyes

>>383530498
>playing LS
Cuck spotted
DS was much better with all the jedi masters being boss fights

>>383530665
Are you gay?

>>383530156
I wish Star Wars in general was more like this desu.

>>383530665
Playing a sneering Imperial agent who only took breaks from sabotage and subterfuge to twirl his mustache was actually good fun. Just wish the gameplay wasn't a snore.

>>383524673
>We will never see Revan fight Nihilus
It hurts

Also who would win, Nihilus or Sauron?

>>383530665
I tried it, I really gave it an honest chance. But I got so turned off by how jewish the game is. Fuck that noise.

It's like, games should shower me with gifts and free shit for playing. Considering how many games there are today, even quality free games. It's so competitive. So when a game like TOR treats you so badly for playing and wants to get your money, they can fuck right off. How about just don't make the game f2p then? Much better to have a reasonable entry fee but not be so fucking jewish in-game, gives a much better vibe.

>>383530665
>That third game would cast you as "the Exile" and allow you to track Revan's path. "Whether you encounter him or not..." he pauses, wary of spoilers in case the game ever happens in the future. "The idea was that even before the 'modern day' Sith came into being in The Old Republic ... there were even more distant Sith Lords that were considered the true Sith, and the idea that they were still lurking out there in the galaxy waiting for a chance to strike, kind of like the Shadows in Babylon 5, I thought would be a cool finale for that Old Republic trilogy.

>"Part of the fun with designing them," he adds, "was if you have these incredibly powerful Force users and they have their whole hidden domain out in the distant reaches of the galaxy, what would that Sith empire really look like at the hands of these things? "If they could shape entire planets or galaxies or nebulas, and they had all these slave races at their disposal, how cool would that be, to go into the heart of darkness and you're the lone Jedi and/or new version of the Sith confronting these guys? What would that be like? I thought that would be pretty epic."

>Knights of the Old Republic 3 would still involve the Ebon Hawk ship, your base and your home, and you'd have "a few" of the companions from the other KOTOR games. "You definitely have T3-M4 and HK-47 with you," he says, and at one point HK-47, its legs dismantled, would "ride around in your backpack like C-3PO does with Chewbacca in Empire Strikes Back". "So during one of the sequences in the game," Avellone expands, "you'd actually have HK-47 firing behind you and being your cover support while you're carrying him around on your back and getting to a repair station."

This is what we lost to that fucking MMO.

>>383530156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VvS5MLnG0Y
>Implying this isn't more kino

>>383530724
nope

>>383531031
Holy shit the thing about Kazooie-ing HK-47, my fucking DICK

>>383525771
so wrong

>>383530665
only imperial agent and sith warrior could be categorized as "good" stories and they also have weak points
all the other storylines vary from mediocre and forgettable to absolutely terrible and boring
and their expansions also went from casually obliterating revan's character to going full DBZ levels of retarded with valkorion and his soap opera of a family

What's with all the droids?

>>383531236
Yeah Vitiate is a neat concept but he's executed poorly IMO

>>383530498
Not only did you not play the game, far worse is that you didn't even understand it. You have failed utterly.

>>383531031
Life's hard, none of us can do anything to change it, better look at TOR as a game instead of "what could've been". And as a game, TOR has some cool shit. Imperial Agent and Sith Warrior alone have awesome storyline and lore

>>383531050
>tfw force mommy tells you you failed

File: 1496934365136.jpg (278KB, 1280x960px) Image search: [Google]

278KB, 1280x960px

>>383524673
>KOTOR 2
>A game released with half of its content missing
>Literal 2DEEP4U story and boring as shit characters
>best

>>383530992
Sauron

>>383531438
I'm not denying that, but the comment it was in response to specifically stated:

>I swear, the only thing I can do when I hear "TOR is crap, and not worthy of being KOTOR3" is roll my eyes

It's NOT worthy of being Kotor 3, it's a terrible continuation of the series even if some of the storyline's contained within it are passably entertaining.

>>383530710

>DS was much better with all the jedi masters being boss fights
>LS equals cuckholding
>being an edgy person wearing dark clothes is a better alternative
>ignoring my arguments

Kek. In context with the story in KOTOR 2, DS choices doom Dantooine to mercenary control, abandon Onderon to a tyrant and cause countless numbers of human refugees to suffer under Exchange and Hutt domination on Nar Shaddaa because the Jedi Masters "pissed" you off which will cause the Republic to collapse? You sound like a balanced ""intellectual"". Also, you don't need to be DS to fight the Jedi Masters, since killing them is considered a neutral/gray action in the original release.

>>383531829
I worded that last sentence wrong then. Would've I preferred to have KOTOR3? Sure. But we didn't, and I don't like to stay in the past.
When you go to almost any TOR YouTube videos and the only thing you see is "this game is the worst thing that has happened to Star Wars, it's literally cancer" from people that hasn't played it you can't help but get a little mad

File: 1496857298640.jpg (58KB, 582x475px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 582x475px

>>383531653

File: screamsinternally.jpg (51KB, 288x288px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 288x288px

>take a character everyone loves and connected with
>"LOL he's been in force prison for 300+ years!"

>>383524673
might as well be an interactive movie with how shitty the gameplay was

>>383527936
>it's an alternate universe!

hallmark of a dead franchise

File: 90a027bb3b4cc0d5c55056dd7acbb71f.jpg (52KB, 294x447px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 294x447px

>>383532330
>Trusting a guy named Darth Scourge not to stab you in the back
>Not getting to see your son

>>383524673
Game was literaly "Ow the Edge" of the starwars games.

File: Lord_Scourge_Valiant.png (1MB, 934x830px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 934x830px

>>383532602
TBF, look at this beautfiul son of a gun

>>383526156
Pazaak is probably good 1/3 of playtime if you think about it.

>>383533258
And then Shadow of Revan happened

>143 replies
>38 posters
wew

>>383533258
amazing how they could drop the ball so hard with revan
they should have left him and the rest of the previous characters dead

>>383524673
i disagree that this is the best videogame ever made BUT i enjoyed kotor 2 greatly and recommend it to all.

>>383533653
This is my 8th post in this thread, I'm surprised that it's as high as 34. I always assume that these threads are me and one or two other guys.

I think it's that argument with Atris that made me realize why I like the dialogue in Kotor 2 so much, you can actually interact with people in dynamic conversation rather than the usual RPG method wherein you ask a host of questions and NPCs talk at you. Conversing with Kreia specifically felt like I was casually discussing politics or philosophy with someone, and not the stilted, game-y interactions I'm used to.

>>383533653
what's your point? should you only be allowed to make 1 post per thread?

>>383529379
Same reason nobody is talking about any other bioware games (apart from BG) unless it's derogatory. RTWP gameplay is shit and they can't write worth a fuck.

>>383533653
Wow.

So what?

>>383533653
>reee no no no no no!!! Threads should be super fast and full of shitposts!!!

>>383532330
Is that edgy guy from overwatch?

>>383534473
yes

>>383530992
LOTR is embarrassing generic garbage written by a Christian moralfag so Nihilius wins by default.

>>383534750
great post

>>383534750
Also maybe he can kill entire planets whereas sauron can't even kill a midget?

File: 1498510084155.jpg (57KB, 1200x740px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 1200x740px

>>383531426

>you have failed utterly.
>resorting to Kreia memes

Kreia's '"""teachings""" were so inconsistent that both the Sith and Jedi abandoned/rejected her from the Order and Empire; an individual who was so weak in the Force that she had to go to an Outcast Jedi for the hope that one person IN THE ENTIRE GALAXY that would listen to her flawed perspective is the true failure. Everything she does is to undermine YOUR choices (as the Exile whether Light or Dark) to submit to her own will (i.e Nar Shaddaa Charity Scene). Her ""logic"" also doesn't allow for systematic analysis or philosophies to be formed because she summarizes them as mere ""beliefs"" (which she asserts that all belief is oppressive/restrictive; not realizing that belief is established through time and experience on various events) which is to be shunned from her point of view. Kreia is a flawed character, but I guess that's the reason why so many pretentious sperglords like her.

>>383534918
I prefer my line of reasoning and not your childish power level dickwaving contest, if it's all the same to you.

>>383533258
It looks like someone used the faceapp on him.

>>383535149
You prefer tipping fedoras vs comparing what actually happened in both works? Alrighty.

>>383528425
Weapon Finesse only allows you to replace your STR with DEX on your attack (to-hit) rolls, not on damage. Finesse is still good since it lets you stack AC from Dex, and lightsabers have zany damage dice when slotted with upgrades.

File: 1463609356352.jpg (200KB, 714x800px) Image search: [Google]

200KB, 714x800px

All of these recent KOTOR II threads have made me want to replay it. Are there any recommended mods

>>383535284
Moron.

>>383535329
Skip peragus mod

>>383534750

>LOTR

I think you're in the wrong thread.

>embarrassing generic garbage written by a Christian moralfag so Nihilius wins by default.

So you want the Force Black Hole to consume everything? Are you having a seizure?

File: DOOD!.png (70KB, 500x392px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 500x392px

>Get Force Storm
>Everything in a mile radius dies
Whats even the point of other builds?

>>383535468
M'lardass.

>>383535479
>>383535329
Skip Telos and Nar Shadda while you're at it.

>>383535327
>jedi guardian
>upgrade to sith marauder
>buff battle meditation, master force speed and valor
>master flurry
literally 1-shotting niggas left and right
going full sorcerer and stunning 10 enemies with insanity and then force storming their asses was great fun too

>>383535504
Are you even capable of following the reply chain?

>>383530662
I think they were just bluffing and pretended to care, just so they can ambush you on Dantooine

It was a pretty good game.

>>383530662
they were afraid

File: Exile squad.jpg (93KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 640x480px

I-is anyone hyped for the best star wars sandbox?
https://jkhub.org/topic/9508-developer-thread-linken/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSmWqJt7iag
I like Jedi Academy so much

>>383530992
Nihilus wins by default
He only lost because Exile is his Kryptonite.

>>383535149
Because your line of reasoning was not childish at all

>>383535868
One character being from a far superior work is all the reason anyone sensible needs. If you want hurr durr muh powers go watch DBZ or some other pleb trash.

>>383535593
>skipping half of the content
why even bother playing in the first place?

>>383535147
Kreia was not weak in the force. The reason she was drawn to the Exile was that she saw in him the proof of the truth of her views. Someone who not only survived being cut off from the force, but thrived because of it.

>>383535862
wasn't that mod some malware scam made by a kebab roach?

It was discussed today, but I still didn't find answer - why did she fight with Exile in the end?

>>383525976
Both can be finished in 4 hours or less if you know what you're doing. And it's not nearly as bad as fucking Taris.

>>383535963
Forget it, kid. You'll grow out of it some day.

File: tumblr_mpt5l86iOJ1rovphko1_400.jpg (81KB, 307x600px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 307x600px

Mandalore>HK-47>Visas>Mira>Kreia>Handmaiden>T3-M4>Bao Dur>Anton>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOTO

File: 1464213565607.jpg (23KB, 280x280px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 280x280px

>Be living on random planet on Star Wars universe
>Not much goes on but it's your home, make the most of it
>One day out of no where, a bunch of Radical Islamists and Far-Right Christians land on your planet
>Not only are these people bat-shit insane they are also super human able to deflect any bullets you shoot at them and mind control your top leaders
>Your entire planet is dragged into a war it never asked for and had no stance on, all your friends are dead and your home is in ruins
>The radical Islamists and Christians leave your planet, leaving nothing remaining

Kreia did literally nothing wrong.

>>383535862
I preferred Outcast. My favourite part was playing it as an FPS before you got a lightsaber

File: The Sith Triumvirate.jpg (71KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

71KB, 640x480px

>>383536102
Yes it was, although mod itself was fun.
This version is in fact completely new mod made from scratch by different guys. But have simillar goal - to turn Jedi Academy into star wars encyclopedia-sandbox. And since Jedi Knight: Enhanced now exist you can put much more content into it.

>>383536789
oh, that's nice
Seeing KOTOR characters on JA makes me want to try it.
Does it have any single player content or is it just you using console commands to spawn shit?

>>383536303
Irony.

File: 1488954777989.jpg (59KB, 655x527px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 655x527px

>>383536139
Let's see if I can remember correctly: Kreia/Traya taught and supported the Exile because he was an example of someone who had known the Force as a Jedi, and willingly (if unwittingly) separated himself from it, and lived without contact with the Force.
Kreia loathed the Force's influence on living things, seeing it as an outside manipulator, and wanted to test and see if the Exile was truly separate from it/if he was unique.
The final stage of this test would be the crucible of Trayus Academy, where Kreia would force the Exile to walk in the wake of the destruction he had wrought during the Mandalorean Wars and where his character would be put to one last test. (saving/sacrificing your squad, how you defeat Sion, etc.)
The reason for the final confrontation between her and the Exile varies depending on LS/DS: As either Exile, Kreia wants you to kill her so that no Jedi Masters or Sith Lords remain. She resents LS Exile's desire to save even she & DS's blind ambition

>>383536423
>be some guy living in buttfuck nowhere with a qt wife
>someday you get a child
>said child has magic abilities
>telekinetic space monks out of come out of nowhere and kidnap the child
>their explanation for this is so the child doesn't fall to the dark side
>proceed to brainwash the child to feel no emotion and tell it that love is forbidden and basically condemn it to a joyless life
yeah, the jedi surely are the good guys

>>383536031

It goes even further than that. The fact that the Exile could turn away from the Force so entirely as to shut herself off from feeling it made Kreia think that there was a way to destroy the Force itself. And that's what Kreia's ultimate goal was. She hated the Force, she wanted to destroy it. That's why she was so fascinated with the Exile, why she offered her help, her wisdom, her training. Because in the Exile, Kreia saw the end of the Force.

>>383537202
the only way for jedi to find force-sensitive kiddos is by pure contrivance, like what happens in Phantom Menace
blame the influence and manipulation of the Force, not the tools it wields

>>383526258
>tfw playing light side mastered space jesus and converted all my party members into jedi making them my disciples

>>383535560
Well, it's lightning dood. It tends to kill shit.

>>383537242
I don't think she wanted the force to die, I believe she specifically says the death of the force would mean the death of all living things, and that there would be no victory in that. What she wants is people to break free from the influence of the force, to turn away from it and still live, to stop adhering to a code but instead forge your own path and make your decisions based on yourself and not the words of your masters.

>>383537419
>the influence and manipulation of the Force
Kreia was right, wasn't she?

>>383525538
She doesn't betray you tho.

File: 1386132377185.jpg (56KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 300x300px

>>383527891
>Bao-Dur wasn't at Malachor-V with everyone else at the end of the game and left that hologram for Remote because he died on Telos during the Sith attack when he and HK-47 headed to the HK factory

fuck this gay earth

>>383537831
>the big plot point of the HK factory got cut
It's not right

>>383537683
She's right if and only if the Force is indeed sentient and capable of enacting it's will through force-sensitives and all other life (since everything alive is impregnated with the Force)
I don't know if there's any EU canon that supports that idea, but certain events, like Anakin Skywalker coming into contact with the only group of visitors on Tatooine that could turn him into a Jedi Knight, that do give it a little weight

File: cis scum.png (767KB, 1360x768px) Image search: [Google]

767KB, 1360x768px

>>383536942
There is currently only alpha version released which have a lot of models and maps but only on multi. I had a lot of fun when i played it with my brother, though. https://jkhub.org/files/file/3121-knights-of-the-force/

Now they are focusing on fixing few problems with multi and mainly making singleplayer stuff playable. They don't want to go over ambitous for now, but to release only sandbox version. Then they will try to make missions and maybe recreate movies in it, as one guy can even make cutscenes.

>>383538039
>discord
How to have your opinion trashed in one easy step

>>383538123
Well they have to communicate in some way while making a mod.

>>383536031

>Kreia was not weak in the force

She got dominated by Sion and Nihilus and was stripped of her powers. Therefore she is weak.

>Someone who not only survived being cut off from the force, but thrived because of it.

That totally makes sense anon. For 10 years, the Exile was wandering like a little bitch in the Outer Regions until Kreia (hypocritically) reawakened his Force Powers on the Peragus Mining Facility. If her point was that anyone can survive and live without the Force (the entire basis of her teachings): Why didn't she leave the Exile to fight against all those Mining Droids, the HK-50 Assassin Droid, the Sith Assassins and Troopers without the Force's Power? Why did we go through KOTOR 2 to learn new Force Powers and Lightsaber Styles from the Jedi Masters to fight against the Sith Lords if Kreia wanted to prove that an individual could ""thrive"" without it? Why did she teach the Exile to read peoples thoughts through the Force? Why did she allow the Exile to teach others the Way of the Jedi or Sith (even though she considered them flawed)? Do you know why she did this anon? Because KOTOR 2 is a shitty, inconsistent mess of a storyline if you actually bother to assess EVERY SINGLE LINE AND ACTION that Kreia commits throughout the plot. That entire line of """reasoning""" is completely inaccurate, because the Exile is successful due to his connection to the Force. Do you really think a group of non-Force Sensitives could achieve what the Exile did like fight against Nihilus and Sion without the Force? Don't be ridiculous.

>>383524673
If you like old ladies, this game is right up your alley.

>>383538335
>She got dominated by Sion and Nihilus and was stripped of her powers. Therefore she is weak.
Those two fuckers are one of the strongest beings in Star Wars universe.
One is pretty much immortal and the other is a fucking force vacuum.

>>383537954

>She's right if and only if the Force is indeed sentient and capable of enacting it's will through force-sensitives and all other life

You have to remember that the Force has a dualistic; yet seperate natures of Light and Dark. The first thing to investigate is which aspect of the Force is the truly manipulative entity.

>>383537639

It's been a few months since I last played through the game, so I may be wrong, but I pretty vividly remember her mentioning that she intended to use the wound in the Force that the Exile had become to "destroy the Force itself".

>>383538335
>She got dominated by Sion and Nihilus and was stripped of her powers. Therefore she is weak.

Ok, Bane. Remind me why you came up with the rule of two again?

>Do you really think a group of non-Force Sensitives could achieve what the Exile did like fight against Nihilus and Sion without the Force? Don't be ridiculous.

Without the force there would have been no such fights to be had in the first place. Without force users that have the potential to single-handedly destroy the galaxy, the galaxy has a much better chance of actually healing for more than 20 or so years before the next catastrophe. But until that point you have to fight on an even playing field.

File: 1480028259177.jpg (69KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 300x300px

>>383538335
Different anon, but the fuck are you on about. She never claimed that force didn't make you a superhuman. That's exactly why she, atton, and a lot of other people in this games hate it, jedi and sith so much. Exactly because it gives so much power to some random fuckers which will then tear the galaxy apart.
Using your enemy weapon against him isn't that strange either. She even says that at the end.

>>383538335
She let Sion cut her hand off the first time and made him her bitch at Malachor-V

>>383539031
She tells the exile that in her she sees the death of the force. This could be interpreted to be literal or as in living free of the influence of the force, like the exile proved you could.

File: 1499298133417.jpg (40KB, 640x614px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 640x614px

>>383537831
>Bao-Dur died
What?

>>383526262
But she's so fucking weak, they never explained how such a subservient bitch ever managed a sith. She just keeps telling you to believe her that it works.

I probably should have turned Handmaiden into a jedi and then made her into a sith instead but that fucks with your karma.

File: 53242432424.jpg (37KB, 396x385px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 396x385px

>>383539623
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEE
DON'T TALK ABOUT MY WAIFU THAT WAY
APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW

>>383526262
>>383526691
Visas is great and she always triggered my masculine instincts the hardest. I just wanted to fuck her hard and make her mine.

>>383539843
I wish she was a good waifu but she isn't, I mean fuck for like the first half of the game she won't even shut up about how great Nihilius is even though she's following you around. There is a dialogue path where you keep trying to push her into being more independent in order to be a stronger sith but she keeps bitching out about it because she clearly fears the responsibility of being the last of her kind.

>>383539416
in the cut factory he and HK would go there to either destroy all the other HK models or have HK take them over and he dies (somehow) during the battle that's why the remote replaces him in the character select and why you never see him again

File: IMG_0790.png (2MB, 1242x2208px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1242x2208px

Why was this never ported to iOS? The first one plays flawlessly.

>>383526043
>canon exile
Might as well talk about a canon Vault Dweller

>>383536150
>Both can be finished in 4 hours or less if you know what you're doing
That's the length of entire games nowadays

>>383539245

>She never claimed that force didn't make you a superhuman.

I didn't say that. All I said is that Kreia is a hypocritical bitch. Read my post again.

>atton, and a lot of other people in this games hate it, jedi and sith so much

Atton. You mean the guy that leaps at the chance of becoming a Jedi? I don't think so. Also the common person in KOTOR 1&2 that conflate the two groups as being the same is based purely out of ignorance of the differences of their teachings/principles.

>Using your enemy weapon against him isn't that strange either

The Force isn't a fire-arm. In the Star Wars, the Force is in every aspect of the universe.

>Exactly because it gives so much power to some random fuckers which will then tear the galaxy apart.

Yeah. The Sith. Wipe out the Sith and there are no more problems of expansionist empires trying to impose itself on the Galaxy. That's why the Jedi always win in the end due to them always supporting the people first.

>>383540238
is SA actually decent to play on ios?

>>383527891
ᴳᵉᶰᵉʳᵃᶫ

>>383528095
You enjoying one over the other doesn't mean that is the case.

>>383533254
I think pazaak is fun.

>>383539162

>Without the force there would have been no such fights to be had in the first place

Without the Force, life would not exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YQJsbbWNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUKGTkiWik

>Without force users that have the potential to single-handedly destroy the galaxy, the galaxy has a much better chance of actually healing for more than 20 or so years before the next catastrophe.

Without corrupt Sith Lords that would be true.

>>383539270

>She let Sion cut her hand off the first time and made him her bitch at Malachor-V

It was only on purpose! Also she only had mastery over Sion AFTER she gained sufficient power in the Force.

>>383540267
Sure
The Vault Dweller was most likely Albert Cole

File: 1477497004233.png (349KB, 495x391px) Image search: [Google]

349KB, 495x391px

>>383540476
>Wipe out the Sith and there are no more problems of expansionist empires trying to impose itself on the Galaxy. That's why the Jedi always win in the end due to them always supporting the people first.

The galaxy was literally on the brink of being conquered by a non-sith expansionist empire because the jedi didn't give a shit about the people in the Mandalore Was, which only ended in victory for the Republic because Revan and a few jedi decided to take action, and they were all rewarded with mind wipes, having their connection to the force broken, exile and so on.

It was those events that led Kreia to take action against the jedi, why she went the trouble of guiding your ass through all these planets and reuniting the council for one final lesson.

>>383541197
*Mandalorian Wars

File: 1491970542780.jpg (142KB, 1280x670px) Image search: [Google]

142KB, 1280x670px

Keira manipulated a win win scenario by the endgame, either die by the exiles hand proving her teachings right in the wake of every dismissal of her life through the sith and jedi traditionalists. Or kill the exile and herself in the focal point of a huge force wound, deafening half the galaxy from the force out of pure instinctual fear and coping with the pain.

If the force does influence destiny would it let her do it? The answer is no it would be like having somebody tear out your eyes. Therefore has to win through the will of the force, yet the exile is a invisible hole in the tapestry it can't influence.
She spat on the forces of destiny itself to prove a philosophical point to uphold a decades long grudge after being blamed with re vans failure.

>>383541034
She was as strong as she was at the end since the beginning, she hid her true power from you so you wouldn't use her as a crutch.

>>383541197
SWTOR had it so the sith rused them to war

File: old_man_with_the_grey_beard_in_the_dark_2.jpg (35KB, 499x371px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 499x371px

>>383524673
Kreia's philosophy aside, I didn't really like the ending.

And Kreia's philosophy has prevented any joy I might have gotten from the new movies.

It really is a great game and the story is fucking magnificent. I enjoyed the first 2/3rds immensely, but I could only enjoy the ending in an intellectual way.

Sad endings which are even more sad in the greater context of the franchise are needed once in a while, but I do prefer when there is something in the ending to be optimistic about.

10/10 but I wouldn't play it again

>>383540794
I thought that first, but it's all about finding +/- cards and luck.

>>383528509
Anything you can do at 100 influence, you can do at 0 influence. Keep that in mind.

File: 1490464129030.jpg (17KB, 258x231px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 258x231px

>>383535329
Restored Content Mod, you can grab it off the workshop even just be sure to throw throw other mods in the workshop override folder or direct the TSL patcher to the workshop folder.
Also Invisible Headgear is you don't want your party looking like rejects from the '80s.
Darker Peragus looks cool for spooky but I haven't tried it.

>>383531426
Except Kreia only tells you you're an utter failure as a student if you go Dark Side. Checkmate, Sithshits.

>>383541197

>The galaxy was literally on the brink of being conquered by a non-sith expansionist empire because the jedi didn't give a shit about the people in the Mandalore Was

The Mandalorians were allied to Exar Kun, a Sith Lord. Not really a good "argument" to stand on anon.

>which only ended in victory for the Republic because Revan and a few jedi decided to take action

While they were adherents to the Light Side.

>and they were all rewarded with mind wipes, having their connection to the force broken, exile and so on.

Revan was the only one to have that power used upon him in that manner to discover the knowledge to destroy the Star Forge. The Exile was the only Jedi stated in the dialogue of KOTOR 2 to face the Jedi Council's punishment. Every other Jedi was either corrupted as the Mandalorian Wars went on through the introduction of Sith Teachings (as Atton reveals) or were assassinated over time by HK-47 or Sith Assassins.

>It was those events that led Kreia to take action against the jedi, why she went the trouble of guiding your ass through all these planets and reuniting the council for one final lesson.

By aiding the Sith Empire that was revealed to be supporting the Mandalorians in the War (Uthar Wynn is the only mentioned Sith Lord in KOTOR 1 to be involved in the conflict). Also, don't forget the prior wars that took place in KOTOR due to the Sith. The Great Sith Wars of Exar Kun which was 30-40 Years before the events of the Mandalorian Wars. Also, Kreia admits in manipulating you for the purpose of personal revenge, not moralistic reason.

File: 1493335993515.gif (4MB, 280x302px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 280x302px

>>383537092
>Kreia wants you to kill her so that no Jedi Masters or Sith Lords remain
I still don't get it. There's Atris also who can survive.
Too complicated scheme just for killing herself.

File: 1272678905894.jpg (52KB, 260x392px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 260x392px

>>383541863

Is that really her power? Or the utilization of the Exile's power through their Force Bond? Whether it's really "her power" is dubious. Since she is like a shadow of the Exile like what Jedi Master Zez-Kai-Ell said.

>>383543083
If she still had the force bond at the end wouldn't the exile of died too after you kill her?

>>383543317
she cut herself off from the force

>>383540482
Yes, it plays pretty damn good.

>>383543430
I though only exile has this ability, hence her interest in you.

File: waogoawjhiajhijeaoahjsejnhjknehjklsw.jpg (956KB, 1280x1024px) Image search: [Google]

956KB, 1280x1024px

>>383527352
Actual answer: All the advertising for KotOR 2 at the time before its release had showcased a male exile and the Handmaiden. Pic related.

>>383543621
Yeah I'm not sure man, maybe her connection to you was artificially made by her to better control you?

>>383543317
She made that shit up anon.

>>383543850
Did you not see the part where the exile drops down in pain feeling Kreia get her hand cut off because of said bond?

>>383543740

>Yeah I'm not sure man, maybe her connection to you was artificially made by her to better control you?

Exactly. It's surprising how many people let this fact fly over their heads.

>>383544347

The Force enables the Exile to read/probe through other people's thoughts and memories without their consent or awareness. It's quite easy for someone like Kreia to achieve the same result with a different action (like what Kreia did to Hanharr on Nar Shaddaa). Also, if they were truly connected, the Exile would've died at Malachor V alongside Kreia. She was manipulating you and admits to this before you fight her.

>>383525976
>Peragus
I kind of like the whole "murder mystery" with that level. I was actually surprised when it turned out that the droid did it.

>>383544347
i dont know about that but Kreia straight up admits that she was manipulating you and the force bond was a fabrication

>>383532210
>abandon Onderon to a tyrant
This one is debatable at least. The guys reign doesn't last very long and Onderon maintains its culture independent of the Republic instead of just becoming subordinate to the Republic.

But otherwise, yeah. Dark Side in kotor 2 is the worst. Even Kreia, of all people, is sickened by your actions.