MGSV TPP

>>383497390
Bayonetta

Metal Gear Rising

this game had shitty repetetive gameplay
fuck you if you thought it was good

>>383497529
Hahahaha

>>383497390
Metal Gear Solid 4

>>383497571
Not an argument.

>>383497683
Neither is yours hahaha

3>4>pw>2>1>acid>5

>>383497723
>look im laughing that makes my argument valid haha

Kill yourself

>>383497804
Mad and also still not an argument lol

muh open world

>>383497868
u stupid hahaha

>>383497390

Peace Walker. Has more bosses too.

>>383497898
Look how easily it gave up. Really flushes my toilet. lol

>killing the same type of enemy on poorly designed, uninteresting bases
>good gameplay
the controls are tight but c'mon

>>383498156
is this "controls" meme the new "dialogue options are gameplay too" meme?

/v/ gets so much stupider and stupider that i really wonder what it's gonna come up with next

>>383497390
Ground Zeroes

BOTW

>>383497390
playeruknowns battlefrogs

>>383497390
good mechanics, but terrible implementation = bad gameplay

have fun waiting in the helicopter for 100 hours

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>>383497750
2>1>3>PW>4>5

>>383501004
When did that happen?

Metal Gear Solid (PS1)

>>383501283
>When did that happen?

When I deployed on the default helicopter point selected for the mission, discovered that the tanks were closer to their destination that I was, and I couldn't win a race two tanks with a head start to their destination, and resetting the mission put me back in the 3 minute helicopter ride to drop me off at the same point where it's hopeless to ride my horse to try to race the tanks again.

>>383501107
2>1>3>5>4>PW

Gameplay is average.
>all rifles feel the same
>distance doesnt matter in sniping
>no CQC
>regenerating health
>easy stealth with slow mo
>no enemy variation
>samey areas which werent designed with open world in mind, except for skull face base

>>383501615
>easy stealth with slow mo
turn it off

>>383501615
I know this is bait but I'm going to take it.

>all rifles feel the same
No they don't. Different spread amounts, recoil management, effective ranges, and so on.

>>distance doesnt matter in sniping
Past the rifles effective range you need to compensate for bullet drop, this is true for all of the guns in the game. Sniper rifles just have longer effective ranges, but you still need to compensate past about 200 meters.

>no CQC
Actually what?

>regenerating health
Compared to having a consumable that you could just restock up on before the mission or call in mid mission? Regenerating health works just fine for the game.

>easy stealth with slow mo
Literally every stealth game becomes "easy" once you understand the mechanics and how the AI works. As far as reflex mode, that can be turned off.

>>no enemy variation
Enemies with NVGs that can see you at night, enemies with gas masks that aren't effected by smoke or sleep grenades, enemies with full body armor that can't be headshot and require CQC/a lot of rounds to take them down. Walker Gears, Helecopters, and APC's. But no, absolutely no enemy variation.

>samey areas which werent designed with open world in mind, except for skull face base
Open world didn't do the game that many favors, and Camp Omega remains the best location to infiltrate in MGSV, but the locations in TPP are still pretty good. Nova Braga and the Soviet Base being two standouts.

>>383503770
Thank you

>>383497390
Ground Zeroes, because it's level design wasn't absolute dogshit.

>>383497446
>>383497517
>PG shit
Still as shit as MGS TPP gameplay

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lolz wtf is wrong with you , ?
any other game.
driving any msg game is like driving a nail into your foot.
massive waste of $$

>>383497390
It's a shame the level design didn't have the same effort put into it as the gameplay.
The only places that feel like they have actuall care and attention put into them are Braga airport, Code Talkers mansion and OKB Zero.

>>383498604
i'd say that if there were 2 otherwise identical games but the other had 1 second of input lag and you move your character with the mouse and aimed from o and shot from z that the one without those had better controls

>>383501615
>he played V with the slow mo( and markers)
also the re aren't that many soldier type that you can put in Afghanistan beside snipers and rifle men if you want to be somewhat realistic

And how did this have less cqc that 3 for example?

>>383502608
It's horribly balanced regardless of its "optionality". The penalty for using it is so minimal it might as well not be there, it can be used from the very first mission, consumes no resources and can be exploited to hell and back.
It should've been a Rank-A only, or remove it and just keep acceleramin.

>>383497390
Blacklist was a Better Metal Gear game then TPP was.

stealth games are inheritly bad games because they have a binary failure state, either you're seen or you're not seen

>>383505820
So like any other game, you either winning or losing then?

>>383498156
The controls are the opposite of tight. Snake's turn radius is a fucking joke, especially compared to the older MGS games where Snake turns on a dime. It's also irritating to put crouch and prone on the same button. Holding a guy hostage is also weird where sometimes you need to keep the button held and other times you don't.

What people are confusing with controls is game feel. Snake has a lot of great animations and sound effects that make your actions feel good, but the controls are average at best.

>>383505820
See Doom's a bad game because you either die or don't die. What the hell is that amirite.

>>383505820
>ghost mission
>quiet/loud pacifist clear
>quiet/loud lethal clear
>quiet/loud kill fucking everyone
>fail mission

I'm seeing 8 different possible ending conditions that are in almost every single stealth game, most of which are recognized by the games themselves for ends or level score purposes.

Also that's not even counting side objectives, which virtually every single stealth game has.

>>383506664
Then there are some condition between pacifist and ghost that depend on how much attention you caused
As in how many "hmm must have been the wind" moments you caused
And in some games you have multiple routes you can have these results in

>>383501107
best opinion in this thread

>>383508017
Yeah I know, I was just trying to boil it down to the most basic states possible that virtually every single stealth game shares.

>>383497390
Devil May Cry 3-4
Resident Evil 4
MGS2-4
Crash Team Racing
Crash Bandicoot 2-3
GT3

Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

>>383497529
>repetitive
only as repetitive as you make it to be, senpai

>>383506279
>and other times you don't
You don't need to. Just face the enemy.

>>383497390
Chaos Theory

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>good controls = good gameplay

>>383508879
Sorry, what I meant was when you're literally holding a guy, not when you're holding them up.

>>383497390

the witcher 3

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>Pic related

Well that was easy. Let's play again OP!

>>383511601
no

>>383501107
3>1>5>2>PO>PW

Call of duty series, you know this to be true.

>>383511815
3=2=V>1>PW>4>PO

>>383511894
Yeah if using "=" that'll work. I completely forgot about 4 so that kinda indicates how I feel about it

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1>3>2>V>PW>4

>>383498604
>dialogue options that influence your character and the world aren't gameplay meme

Fallout 4 is right up your alley.

>>383497390
Offtopic but can someone explain to me why people hate on MGS4? Just played it the first time and I definitely prefer it to the first 3 parts.

>>383512446
Cutscenes for everything
Absolutely retarded story and writing with asspulls everywhere
Classic stealth gameplay ends after 2/5ths of the game
Shitty drive by shooting
Bosses are detached from the story and have zero personality
Runs at 20fps

>>383512810
>Cutscenes for everything

Man I loved those, especially the end.

>Absolutely retarded story and writing with asspulls everywhere

Maybe I'm so used to bad stories from TV and cinema that I don't even see it anymore.

The rest is true but I don't see how its worse than 3.

>>383513149
>Man I loved those, especially the end.

The ending was a fucking joke. It's 5 minutes of good content stretched out for half an hour with endless exposition. 4 is a fucking disaster.