Actually good or just a meme game?

Actually good, diehard souls fans shit on it because it reuses old locations.

>>383491804
actual good

theres a reason from made this one multiplat, but settled with sony to make BB exclusive

it's fun

>>383491874

Story play out in same universe. People reject an evolving world within that universe instead of adding new zones like some sperg company like blizzard.

max autismo

it's only good if you're a stupid fucking nigger

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>DS3 isn't good

>>383492253


Someone is mad they werent skilled enough to play the game.

HAHAHAHAHA

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>DS3 is good

>>383491804
No, OP, it's not a good game. Don't bother to play it.

It's good, probably holds the least replayability within the series unfortunately. Doesn't take away from the fact that your first run will be a blast, so have at it

it's good but the combat is dumbed down as fuck

it's the monster hunter world of the soul series

>>383493945

Samefagging to discredit a game. Wow you must be butthurt you werent skilled enough

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Beat it last week, I liked Ariandel as a level more than the Ringed City. It was rather wide open compared to what felt like a linear romp through a few streets and the easiest swamp in the series.

>>383491804
Passable game, not terrible and not even bad just not necessarily great.
Worst souls game though considering that it's the fifth game in a series that doesn't reinvent the wheel every game and didn't have to deal with 360/PS3 limitations. If you keep taking 2 steps back for every step forward and keep ignoring what was good/bad about your previous works you're not really going to ever actually improve your product.

>>383491804

I bought it for steam sales and i've been on it for like 10 hours now. It's also my first souls game.

It's great.

>>383494616
Enjoy anon, I played the series from the start and I honestly think I would have enjoyed DaS3 more if I wasn't comparing it to the older games the whole time.

it's good if you're a very patient player and don't get frustrated easily

>>383491804
Is he doing a thumb up pose?

Too short and linear, not as good as one, not as vast and sprawling as too and not as atmospheric as DeS, but still a pretty good game. The least fun of them all, maybe, but that's because this is such a fun, great series of games.

Just play the first 2 tbqh, Dark Souls 3 is very easy to the point that I beat 95% of the bosses on my first try and as such can't even remember most of them. I only remember the ones that took more than one go like the nameless king and the knights as opposed to the first two games where bosses actually made me nervous about losing my souls, and excited to see what they would be

DaS3 is the best Souls game, DaS is good, DaS2 and DeS are garbage. Bloodborne is the best From Software game though.

>>383496989
i'm completely new to the dark souls series, would you say that 3 being easy makes it a good starting point then?

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>>383497421
>DeS is garbage
>DaS3 is the best Souls game

I humbly disagree, along with every sane person on this board.

>>383497607
DeS is overrated experimental dogshit, that is why it had so many horrible features and mecanics. DaS perfected the Souls formula, Bloodborne transcended it.

DeS and DaS2 are garbage that I never replay.

>>383497426
DaS3 and BB are the hardest. DeS is a joke and the easiest. DaS is irrelevant because of poise breaking the game. DaS2 is easy, if you can play without lock on.

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When does the game get hard? i finished both cathedral of the deep and catacombs today, and both were a fucking joke.

This is not bait.

>>383498540
Obviously Souls never gets hard, but you don't even get a proper boss fight in 3 until Boreal Valley.

>>383494434
As a level, I can kinda understand. The boss fights in Ariandel were trash though

>>383492165
I liked that Dark Souls 3 feels more connected to Dark Souls 1. DaS2 almost felt like it wanted to turn it into an anthology series since that's how the transition from Demon's Souls worked. A dumb idea when you actually have the benefit of building on the world. It introduced the cycles so that each game could have the same goal in a totally different land. Then Dark Souls 3 comes along and has to salvage what Dark Souls 2 introduced by reintroducing a sense of importance to what you're doing while also building on Dark Souls 1. It made the cycles way more interesting by having the player actually encounter past linkers of the fire.

Unfortunately, even though I like its closer connection to the world of Dark Souls, it does go overboard in a few places. Siegward didn't need to have an identical personality to Siegmeyer.

>>383498540
after catacombs area is reasonably tough, though you can kind of just run through it

>>383498203
>Bloodborne transcended it
More like watered it down

>>383498919
Friede represents the worst parts of the series getting too full of itself with "dude so hard lmao" shit. It's not an outright terrible fight like King of the Storm/Nameless King, but I'm getting pretty fatigued with some of the bullshit in this series and I'm glad they're taking a break.

>>383498919
Friede wasn't

>>383491804
One of the worst souls but still much better than 2. It has no original ideas and just copies the other games making it boring for veterans.

>>383491804
Little bit of both. Nowhere near interesting or smart as the first two games but still quite enjoyable little game.

>>383499138
Friede is amazing, gitgud you shitter.

>>383499195
>le 2 was the worst game - meme

I enjoy it far less than DaS2. PvP is too hectic, shields and armour is practically useless when you can just roll for days. Also reusing old locations and boss battle is lame.

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>>383499195
>shitting on DS2

Can someone tell me what makes a soul game good or bad? They're all the same shit, same combat system, same enemies that fuck you up, same level design, same bosses, what's so critically different between 1,2 and 3 to make one amazing and one horrible?

>>383499138
>Nameless King is terrible

Kill yourself.

>>383494161
How is it that the game with the most expanded combat has dumbed down combat?

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>>383492363
>>383493787

>>383491804
It's actually a good game, although I don't think it's the best in the series or anything. After playing through it once I had no desire to return to DSIII, whereas I put tons of hours into DeS, DS, and Bloodborne. (I only beat DSII like twice I think). I may pick up DSIII again for the DLC when I have more time.

>>383498203
What are these horrible mechanics and features from DeS you're speaking of?

>>383499719

1 is slow, deliberate, with great world-building and level design. Animations are good and combat feels fair.

2 is just about the same pacing, some okay world-building, but shit level design, shit animations, and a stat that you need to invest in to make combat feel right.

3 takes after BB, being much faster. Mediocre world-building, good level design, good animation, and satisfying combat.

All 3 have shit pvp because fromsoft's netcode is the worst in the business so I have no idea why people judge the games based off of it, but everything here ultimately comes down to preference and what you value.

>>383491804
the amount of shit they pulled out of Bloodborne was weird

>>383491804
I just lost motivation to play it halfway through. You'd probably like or love it if it's your first Souls game, but I'm not a fan of it.

>>383500081
It's this really annoying bullshit mechanic where he doesn't have a PS3.

>>383499795
King of the Storm is some of the most boldfaced defiance of learning from your past mistakes I've ever seen. Having it precede the Nameless King every time you attempt the fight ruins the entire experience and I refuse to give it any credit as a result.

>>383491804
Good game, balance slightly ruined by patches and attempts to cater to duelshitters and fags who take the pvp too seriously. Huge undeserved nerfs were thrown out and ruined fun playstyles. The developers tried to overhaul the game in the last minute and now were left with a shittier version than before. Feels like the same what happend to ds2, but just like ds2 its worth a few playthroughs. Just sad to see its state compared to the earlier versions.
>>383494434
I hate TRC honestly. It feels like they had to make it even harder. As a result it doesn't fit well in the game. Everything takes way too long to kill and there are enemies everywhere. Ashes luckily didn't do stupid shit like spamming those corrupted knights. It was pushing it, but TRC just had to push it some more.

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best out of the series
ringed city is my husbando dlc

>>383493945
Why ain't it good?

>>383491804
I got enough of DS after the second one, this felt like a rehash, dropped after 10 hours

>>383494434
I absolutely hate Ariandel. Probably an unpopular opinion but I honestly couldn't get into it.

Ringed City was great, Dreg Heap was horseshit.

>>383500369
Bosses in DaS3 have shit for health. Complaining about a 2 phase boss fight is pathetic.

ds3=ds1 > ds2

>>383500369
What are you on about?

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>>383499719
The amount of quality /v/ memes that 1 spawned means it will always be the best

>>383491804
Bosses are ok, game is generally shit and easy though.

>>383500646
>Probably an unpopular opinion but I honestly couldn't get into it.

Not really objectively a shit DLC with 1 useless boss and the other is structured like a WoW boss.

>>383499392
>>383499690
>/v/ actually went full contrarian circle on ds2
And this is why you don't listen to /v/ op

>>383491804
It is a memelike semi-good not meme but still a meme game.

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>>383494434
Ringed City ended 3 on a high note. It felt imaginative once again after slogging through all the boring or underdeveloped regions. I really liked the Ghru-zone as a concept but as a vidya level it was horseshit. It needed more variance, more complexity, maybe some indoor ruin mini-area with New Londo vibes and a Blighttownesque Ghru village.

>>383500984
It's just a vocal minority who think they can parlay people's disappointment with 3 into vindication for 2.

>>383501156
I don't see what was imaginative about ringed city. The whole thing felt like a boring slog to me.

I liked ashes, but it should have been longer.

>>383500751
I see you're a man of culture as well

>>383500081
1. The worst healing system in the game.
2. The worst game play system in all Soulsborne: World Tendency. Locking content behind world tendency that forces you to play ofgline if you want to manipulate it properly, which is counterproductive to the onli e gameplay features that this franchise had.
3. No bosses, except Flamelurker, Penetrator and False King Allant. Every other "boss" is a gimmicky piece of shit or 0 challenge like Blind Faggot (can't even attack me lulz). Bed of Chaos is better than absolute dogshit like Dragon God and Storm King.
4. The worst enemy AI, they are literally retarded and super boring compared to DaS3 and BB.
5. Shortest game in the series.
6. 6th arche stone missing thanks to Sony bosd shuhei forgot his name faggota pulling the funding for DeS and doubting the demi-god Miyazaki.
7. No world design, fragmented segments, no immersive world building.
8. Worst lighting and colors of all Souls games.

>>383500290
I am on phone atm, if I was on PC I would post my platinun. I bought ps3 and ps4 for des/bb, money is not an issue. DeS was absolute dogshit and only nostalgia blinded morons think it isn't one of the worst.

BB > DAS3 > DAS > DAS2 > DES

I might like the OST better than Bloodborne's after the DLC, best "final boss of the series" theme ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggWJLgN-Es

>>383501634
Found the "boss is shit unless it's mechanically complex" guy.

Also Latria has the best color scheme of the series.

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>>383501636
>then you remember that the boss is Santa Claus on steroids

>>383501726
Lmfao, no. Bloodborne has the best color. Latria was garbage that gets BTFO 100x by Irithyl Dungeon.

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>Introduce the dreg heap
>Could have any location from the series turn up
>Only use the high wall of lothric and a smidgen of Earthen Peak
I got the feeling that they really didn't want to make the game

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>>383501634
>No world design, fragmented segments, no immersive world building.
I liked DeS's approach. You had 5 unique themes and areas that just grew larger but never lost their visual theme.

When you say fragmented segments, I think about how every Dark Souls level is short as hell when you figure it out, and even if it happens to be interconnected to other places the actual level is tiny and jumping from theme to theme like dungeon->swamp->lava in 5 minutes of walking.

>>383502217
Fuck off meme fag.

>>383502071
Irithyll Dungeon is short as fuck and casualized Latria, weird hill to plant your flag on.

>>383502217
That's a feeling I could not shake from Dark Souls 3. That it was just a contract obligation game with no passion or soul behind it. The DLCs were forgettable although Gael was really good. I hate to bring up Bloodborne, but I played it after playing DaS3 for hundreds of hours, and the different in quality is just night and day to me.

>>383502314
Everything in 3 is short as fuck. The only time the bonfire distance is remotely good is the first loop at the deep cathedral.

>>383491804
It's good. Also, stop calling everything a meme you drooling retard.

>>383502071
>Latria was garbage and gets BTFO by Irithyl Dungeon

I have never read a more repulsive opinion about these games in my life. Irithyl Dungeon was such a fucking sorry and pathetic attempt to recapture Tower of Latria's amazing atmosphere.

>>383501634
Confirmed: people who hate demon's souls are dumb phoneposters.

>>383502227
No, DaS levels are not short. DeS levels are short and on top of that, the most linear in all Soulsborne, 40% of the are literally tunnels and hallways. Individual level design is the best in Bloodborne and DaS3, but that doesn't matter when world design has a greater impact on the world, journey and adventure. The only game that did world design good was DaS. BB tried to emulate it, but failed to offer the same freedom right off the start. DeS had no world pressence at all, it didn't feel like an adventure or journey, no immersion, fragmented and isolated garbage.

>>383502803
>Individual level design is best in DaS3
Nope. Even the Ringed City amounted to a linear hallway all the way down. I think you're just in awe of the pretty graphics.

>>383502314
>short as fuck
No, it is not. Go replay DeS you retarded nostalgia cuck, it is the shortest game by far, including the levels.

>>383502803
What are you even blabbering about. Demon's Souls isn't structured the same as Dark Souls, therefore it's "garbage". Okay. I guess any game that has selectable, non-interconnected levels is "garbage".

>>383501634
I don't even want to discuss how wrong you are on some points, but can you name me five truly amazing bosses in the other games? The only games with really good boss fights are DaS3 and BB. The ratio of good/bad bosses, that is.

>>383502984
I played all the games for the first time this year. You literally just don't have eyes if you are saying Irithyll Dungeon is longer than 3-1 or 3-2. Like the latter is a four story building and ID is a two story building.

>>383502560
>this is what nostalgia cucked DeS fags actually believe
Kek.

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Anyone who considers DS3 better than DS2 has shit taste.

Demon's Souls > DS > BB > DS2 > SHIT > DS3

>>383502984
>>383503150
>cuck
>kek
back to /pol/

>>383503232
BB > DeS > DaS2 > DaS > DaS3

>>383501240
I liked DS2 before I played DS3. DS3 is shit on its own, without any comparison to the second part.

>>383499138
What are you talking about. Friede is amazing. It's the only boss in the game at the same level as the nameless king

Gael could have been the best character and boss in the series if he had been properly introduced in the base game as a summon and fellow undead

Good.
But don't expect the lore/story to lead anywhere.

>>383503017
No, that is not what I said. I said if it doesn't have a world design, then it is garbage. DaS was the only fame that had interconnected world design of good quality. The other 3 had worlds, but not interconnected.

>>383503039
DeS had no good bosses. DaS2 had some good bosses, no godtier bosses.

DaS god tier bosses:
-Artorias
-Kalameet
-Ornstein & Smough

BB godtier bosses:
-Cleric Beast
-Father Gascoigne
-Gehrman, The First Hunter
-Mikolash
-Vicar Amelia
-Amygdala
-Amygdala chalice dungeons super version
-Ebrietas
-Moon Pressence
-Ludwig
-Orphan of KosM
-Lady Maria
-Laurence

DaS3 godtier bosses:
-Pontif Sullyvahn
-Abyss Watchers
-Champion Gundyr
-Dragonslayer Armour
-Twin Princes
-Nameless King
-Soul of Cinder
-Friede
-Two demons
-Midir
-Gael

>>383499138
Friede is close to being bullshit, but that place should be reserved for the "lmao so hard bosses" of the ringed city. Those are bullshit.

>>383504006
I actually really like the lore and characters of the Ringed City. The first time in ages I'm interested in what's happening around me.

>>383491804
Way too many shit bosses, not enough places to explore.

2 > 1 > 3

if DLC is included:

2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 > 3

>>383504365
I found the ringed city having too many shitty callbacks with Zulie, desert pyromancer, and dragonslayer armor, Eygon of Carim, Alva seeker of the spurned.

>>383504338
I mean the boss fights itself. You can't tell me with a straight face that Micolash is a godtier boss fight. If that's the case, put Maiden Astraea on there, because she is a far better boss in that term. Also you forgot Quelaag and O&S isn't godtier. You also can't just put in Chalice versions of bosses you already put on the list.
DaS2 also has Elana, Sinh, Sir Alonne, Fume Knight, Ivory King, Looking Glass Knight, Darklurker, Ruin Sentinels and the Pursuer.

>>383504748
Well, I was expecting callbacks because it's DaS3 we're talking about. The overall story was very good, still. And I like Gael as the final antagonist of the Souls franchise.

>>383503150
I played Demon's after Dark Souls 1 and 2, your nostalgia argument is void. Just like everything in Dark Souls 3 Irithyll Dungeon was a half baked and pathetic attempt at "HEY GUYS REMEMBER THIS FROM THE PREVIOUS GAMES?!?!". Irithyll Dungeon is shit, your opinion is shit and wrong, get the fuck out.

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>>383496279

>>383504338
>micolash
>amygdala
>moon presence
>laurence

This is so wrong it hurts my brain.

>>383504689
Judging on PvE
1=3>2
If DLC is included
3>1>2
Judging on PvP alone
2>>3>POWERGAP>1