What's the point of consoles?

play games

>>383488909
Fun, comfy gaming.

>>383489281
Also no hassle

>>383488909
>What's the point
OP, I have a disc of Alice Madness Returns and can't install it for some reason.
I have a disc of the Xbox 360 version and it works any time I want and also give me the first Alice game for free.
>point

>>383488909
>physical games without drm
>no steam, origin, uplay, gog, windows store
>no hackers in popular online games
>one piece of hardware for the next 6/7 years
>no compatibility issues with nvidia/amd cards, e.g NieR Automate
>no shit ports
>good exclusives

>>383491025
>give me the first alice game for free

but, you had to pay for the disk?

>>383491025
if it is the version with steam drm then it's because EA removed the game from steam.

It's also bc on Xbox One.

>>383488909
Low barrier to entry gaming platform, anyone can buy one, toss a game in and have fun. They are easier for kids to beg their parents for as gifts so they will always be around and make tons of sales.

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>>383491609
>one piece of hardware for the next 6/7 years

um sweetie...

>>383491850
?
I paid both, the pc dvd version and the xbox version

>>383491961
it forced me to install a thing, but said thing became origin, game is registered in origin, I can't install with the disc.
don't know about downloading the origin version but I have the disc I'm not downloading shit I already have. I will install. I will use support until this install from the fucking disc.

>>383488909
they are nice for kids that wouldn't know how to build a PC, or people who don't play that much vidya

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>>383488909
What a retard.
>What is the point of consoles?
>By the way, I'm buying a console.

>>383492156
that's just an update for people who want it, og xbone will be supported till next gen. Even 360 is still supported. What's your excuse now?

>>383492496
and you don't have to upgrade your PC if you had good hardware around 2013-2014 if you don't mind turning down a bunch of graphical settings

your point?

To add to your previous point consoles are DRM boxes with their own share of bad ports which tend to run at 24FPS, also good luck playing older 360 games without hackers nowadays

>>383488909
The only real knock against consoles he makes is that patches and dlc downloads get in the way of the pop the game in and play factors consoles are supposed to have, and I agree it is inconvenient but its not as bad as he makes it sound.

>>383488909
It used to be ease of use, cost and exclusives but none of those are valid anymore.

>>383488909
This a tired argument, the only advantages console has over PCs is exclusives and easier to use, period.

>>383492719
how are console drm boxes when you just insert the disc and play? you can resell them, you can play offline. Only games bought digitally are drm, but even on steam and origin, physical games are still drm. That's a clear advantage for console gaming, there is no point in arguing about that.

>>383493085
MS & Sony can straight up block your console and certain features if they wanted to, just because you get more freedom doesn't mean that it isn't DRM

Reselling disc games is the only non-PC like feature that's still around, most of the negatives of PC vidya are on consoles nowadays and its gonna continue to get worse

>>383493687
They can't. All games work from retail.
Some will block online demanding a patch, but this is the exact same situation of a "block"/"shutdown"/"three decades later attempt to play" you are saying.
It's playable. Unlike fucking PC.

>>383492758
All of those are valid.

>>383491609
>every single one of these points is wrong
wow, impressive.

>>383494075
>not an argument
wow, impressive.

>>383493085
they're DRM as fuck bruh. Just because you have a physical copy doesn't mean you own it.

>>383488909
I don't have to beg for games. That's most important to me.

>>383491609
>physical games still have codes for basic features to prevent renting
>no one forces you to use any service you don't want to, unlike Xbox Live and PS store
>there have ALWAYS been hackers in online console games going back to SOCOM 2 for PS2.
>new consoles come out every 2-3 years now making the previous one completely obsolete.
>games have ridiculous bugs just like PC regardless of 'compatibility issues'
>30 fps, tiny draw distance low res no AA ports (no shit though right?)
>"good exclusives"- yeah bloodborne and that lesbian caveman game are both amazing GOTY contenders.

>>383488909
there's no fucking reason. it's only for poorfags, idiots, and the only reason anyone who isn't any of those would have a console is for the exclusives.

>>383494183
It doesn't matter if it "works"
try harder valvefag

>>383493085
You can't edit a game file or 10 million other things like that, that make something locked down other than just talking about discs

>>383494456
damn, de_stroyed

>>383494456
>no one forces you to use any service you don't want to

Where did you get your PC games then?

>new consoles come out every 2-3 years now making the previous one completely obsolete

False, PS4 came out 4 year ago, no sign of PS5.

>games have ridiculous bugs just like PC

Not like PC, PC have them more.

>>30 fps, tiny draw distance low res no AA

False again

>"good exclusives"- yeah bloodborne and that lesbian caveman game are both amazing GOTY contenders

Autism. Also Bloodborne is higher rated than any PC game since decade. Same with BOTW or TLOU

>>383494727
>Not like PC, PC have them more.

Source?

>>383494456
>there have ALWAYS been hackers in online console games

Show me hacker in Tekken 7 on PS4.

>>383493085
EA games come with codes for online features to prevent Gamestop and Gamefly from reselling/renting them. So you get a gimped version of the game instead of what you paid for. You haven't been gaming for very long have you?

>>383494765
Every PC forum where people complain about various problem. Also common knowledge for everyone who is not technologically retarded.

>>383494727
dude you're barley speaking coherent English, go read a motherfucking book man and stop defending your manchild box.

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>>383494075
>no console has ever had a good exclusive.

>watching this fat sack of lard

>>383494890
No source then?

I can find people complaining on console forums

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>>383493956
And you'll have to go and buy a whole new console if this shit happens

>It's playable. Unlike fucking PC.

How does that work when there's a ton of alternate ways to get access to your games again?

And that adds to another point since you can't play original Xbox Live games anymore since the servers shut down, on PC there are tons of alternate ways of playing dead online games such as Battlefront 2

Being able to play dead online console games take even more effort and nobody bothers with it, good luck playing the OG version of Halo 2 nowadays

>>383494836
>EA games

Found your problem

>>383488909
>what's the point of consoles
making money off of the parents of kids too poor or lazy to get a worthwhile PC. that's been their business model for the past several decades now.

>>383494836
since 2001 or so. My last BF was 3. I remember it having some sort of code. But, honestly, fuck EA. Don't know any other company doing that.

>>383494931
Why are you getting so triggered? All PClowns are this insecure

>>383494958
that guy probably Jtagged his 360. Otherwise only account ban.

Why PC friends shitpost so much?

>>383495086
NOT LIKE CONSOLE PLAYER, CONSOLE PLAYER HAVE THEM MORE

ALSO HOW IS BABBY FORMED?

>>383494958
????
what console ban of a pedophile or something worst has to do with physical media

>>383494958
You can just insert the disc on the xbox and play Halo 2

>>383494958
It's not even Microsoft. So many console games just shut down the servers for the game a year or two after it comes out. Stuff like gears of war is the only game where you can still play online a few years after it comes out. These physical copies of older games are essentially useless in many cases now. It fucking sucks man.

>>383488909

Affordable gaming. Console costs far less than a PC capable of running same games.

Also, in the past it was a counter-measure against PC piracy, but this reason no longer applies, thansk to Steam.

>>383495038
was your boyfriend 3?

>>383495170
Why do you pretend to be different people when you're the only one in the thread with English this bad?

>>383491609
next gen console will digital distribution only. mark my post.

>>383495313
But you can't play online because MS shut down the servers like most console games do after a few years, that's why it's a bad investment.

>>383494456
>physical games still have codes for basic features to prevent renting

I never had problem like that and I play on consoles for 20 years. Don't even want to read further.

>>383495153
>>383495229
just proved my point about consoles still being DRM

>>383495313
with no online play

>being constantly glued to a desk to play video games.

God no I get enough of that shit at work.

>>383495421
not really
data caps still a thing

>>383495467
Okay so you don't have much experience gaming.Your opinion can be safely disregarded.

>>383495479
I guess PC is DRM too, since you can go to jail for piracy or spreading child pornography

>>383495609
Most people accept that something like Steam is DRM.

The argument is always consoleretards pretending their DRM boxes aren't DRM for some reason

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>this thread

>>383495403
pkeks getting insecure. achievement unlocked

>>383495442
>>383495479
Yes, and they will work twenty years from now

PCbros can't play singleplayer if their drm software is shut down

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>>383495571
>first world country
>qouta/data caps
heh

>>383495772
heh. but console gamers did win this time

>fire up fifteen year old pc game
>public servers still up and running, people still playing the game, community servers even exist now.
>fire up five year old console game
>official servers have been offline for years already, no community servers as it's illegal and not possible. Even if there were servers the game would be a virtual ghost town, everyone played and got their console achievements already and traded in the game for the next one.

>>383495479
how are consoles still drm, if people are using jtagged xbox consoles to hack online? And a Xbox One/ps4 crack won't happen in the next 15 years or so.

>>383495765
anon-kun you are a fucking faggot holy shit

in your extreme world of MS, Sony, Nintendo shutting down, Steam should also shut down.

Well, guess who can still play their games? console owners with superior physical media

>>383495984
>people still playing game
>playing 15 yr old games

Japan makes better video games than the West
Consoles >>>> PC

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>>383496009
>how is DRM still DRM if you can break it?

>>383488909
The better question is "what's the point of having an xbox".

>>383495984
You have to post source on that hot news anon.

>>383488909
PC doesn't have any games worth playing since the only thing it has is multiplat shit.

>>383496063
I know it's hard to fathom the idea that a game can be so good people still enjoy it after that much time has passed, seeing as how no PS4 game has that kind of staying power no matter how badly Sony wishes they did.

>>383495885
We all lose in the end, anon

>>383496109
when in it's lifetime was a PHYSICAL Xbox game EVER drm? Besides some EA faggotry, NEVER BRUH NEVER

>>383488909
Some people just don't want be cucks so they don't play on PC.

>>383496038
>buy 2 terabyte hard drive for basically nothing
>back my games up onto it
>if steam is gone you can just crack them and play
>you can just pirate things anyway without having to do any of this

There. RIP retarded doomsday scenario

>tfw xbox one and pc combo currently
>new 3ds and switch SOON™
>get all the best consoles games and pc games

feels good not having platform loyalty to either pc or console.

>>383495847
>PCbros can't play singleplayer if their drm software is shut down

And people usually bypass that shit quickly

Even Denuvo hasn't been safe

>>383496009
Stop playing stupid anon

>>383496159
>neogaf entered the room

>>383496086
>japan makes games that look like they're from 1999 on modern consoles but they have anime tiddies so it's okay.

>>383488909
I don't know man, I've been gaming on PC for more than a decade and far too many times I had to deal with bullshit like having to use mods to fix shitty ports, waiting months for AMD or nVidia to deliver a patch to fix compatibility issues so I could extract the full potential of my card, having to spend hours to tweak the games and my hardware so I could play it not only in 60fps, but with nearly perfect 16.6ms frame pacing (because just having 60 fps being thrown carelessly in your screen will still feels like shit). I just got tired of this, and now that I bought console I don't have to deal with any of that shit. Just put the disc in (yeah yeah wait to download patches yadda yadda I don't have shitty internet so it's not a problem to me) and play the god damn game.
I would still play multiplat games on PC if it wasn't the shitshow that it is now. Now I just play some exclusives and quite rarely because playing using the console, comfortably in my room is aways a better option.

>>383496262
deep

>>383496168
>i wanted to make a snarky comeback so fucking bad but had nothing, so here's this awkward comment instead.
um, okay.

>>383496265
the game itself is the DRM, that's why you can copy it to your HDD but still need the disc in the drive to play it, This was how PC games worked (see San Andreas).

>>383496265
>when in it's lifetime
>except for that time it did/still does

>>383496413
>he don't have it

btfo

>>383489281
>>383489375
That's what computers are for

>>383489375
This is prove that Mac's are objectively good machines

>>383496539
it must be hard being mentally retarded, I think you're very brave anon

>>383496265
>when in it's lifetime was a PHYSICAL Xbox game EVER drm?

Um, can you take a file from the game disc and copy it to another device? Can you modify a single file in any way?

There are a million ways something is locked down and DRM. I dunno why consolefags think DRM is just 'muh discs' argument

>>383491609
As said before, literally everything is objectively and verifiably false here. You have to believe half a dozen lies to think that consoles are anything other than living room accessories to a one or two games on

>>383495984
>favorite pc multiplayer game will reliably have a community years after the fact
>if interested in console game, best to buy at launch at full price or the community will be dead within months
goes double for the indie titles. i only got in to a ranked match of cellfactor once

>>383496504
>hurr I need this music disc in the drive to listen to music
>hurr how physical work
>hurr it forced to install game
>hurr performance not on pckucks dictionary
Still works after ninety years, faggot

>>383496606
>brave
I've seen this word being used here thrice in a span of an hour or less today. Is this the hottest new meme?

Not him.

>>383493085
Can you play an Xbox game on a ps4 or put the disc in your pc?
Then it is DRM

>>383496561
>insanely popular
>noone wants to develope games for them
What did the world mean by this?

>>383496694
No you don't need 'this music disc in the drive" you can rip it and listen to the files. You CAN'T do this with a video game, the disc itself is the DRM. Please tell me you're trolling no one could be this ignorant.

>>383496606
>ask for source
>insult instead

Arguing with PChildren is pointless. They are just underage.

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I love this game

>>383496515
>>383496504
This is true. Then console drm is just not as bad as pc drm, because you can still resell and play the same game on other, e.g. xbox systems. We can have a consensus on this then.

>>383496628
The objective is play the game.

There's no point in arguing about mods or ripping off game content to display your hax0r skillz for your online friendos.

And even in this angst teenager scenario, you can do the same to console games.

>>383496740
These kids don't know anything about technology or have any perspective on how any of this shit works.

>>383496813
that depends solely on the device, argument invalidated

>>383496834
You need me to actually list all the 10+ year old games people play daily on PC? come on you can do better than that. Counter Strike 1.6 is fucking 20 years old and still gets more playtime than most modern games. Quake is another example. There's fucking dozens of them kiddo.

>>383496762
>Implying boot camp is at all difficult to set up nor does it play games worse than any Toshiba or Lenovo

Shit setting up boot camp is fucking easier than setting up windows by itself

>>383497062
There is no console that lets you play the game without a physical copy in the disc drive, totally valid argument.

>>383497079
You can play Doom, Sonic CD, Golden Axe, etc, on consoles right now

>>383494727
GOG and humble both sell DRM free games. No service required

they literally said that they are working on PS5

>Not like PC, PC have them more.
Source?

>False again
he exaggerated but not that much honestly, still 30 FPS lock with no AA

>Autism. Also Bloodborne is higher rated than any PC game since decade. Same with BOTW or TLOU

assuming you are going off of metacritic scores, GTA V, a game on PC, has a higher score than both TLOU and BB. but review scores mean nothing anyways so the whole point is moot

>>383497079
CS and Quake are not consoles so comparison is very dumb. I hardly see any players in DaS1 on PC for example. Fighting games are getting dead very quickly on PC compared to consoles. Your argument is really stupid and biased.

>>383497225
You can't even play those games on another xbox if yours dies. The DRM is literally tied to the physical system itself, that's even worse than requiring a disc. You're not helping your argument here man.

>>383497231
>Source?

Any PC forum

>still 30 FPS lock with no AA

All console games have AA, many have 60fps. Argument discarded

>GTA V, a game on PC, has a higher score than both TLOU and BB

GTAV is multiplat available on consoles. Consoles are getting better games overall it seems.

>>383497262
>cs and quake are good games people play them
>darks souls and other unpopular fighting games don't have large playerbases so I'm right.
>if a game isn't available on console it doesn't count for some reason

there's something stupid and biased in that post, and it ain't me.

>>383496951
>The objective is play the game.

Literally doesn't change the fact that it's DRM. Nice deflection attempt though

>the point of steam is to play games
>this proves there's no DRM

>>383497197
It's was built to work that way.
Your logic is small time.

You're only after some personal fetish:
>Playing a game you bought in a store made to work like an expansion of a specific device without the need of touching in real world, because I'm a cool kid and want it to work by the power of tought. And I tought vore was weird

>>383497316
>You can't even play those games on another xbox if yours dies.

we talking about xbox one? you're talking the most garbage right now. games are linked to account, not the system. my nephew can play my xbox games on his xbox because my account is stored on his xbox. don't spread misinformation.

t. >>383496294

>>383497262
what's it like having autism where your every statement you make has to be some contrarian bullshit that has to be so obtuse and abstract it might as well not even be said?

>>383494727
>Where did you get your PC games then?
Torrents. You?

>>383497521
>the DRM was made to work this way
>so following my bizarre logic, therefore it's not really DRM
......

>>383497479
>only games I cherrypick do count because apply to my mental gymnastics
>your examples don't because expose my autism

Ok, I get it

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>>383497560
Google around, XBLA DRM is tied to physical consoles, get a replacement or a new one and you can't play golden axe anymore, this is one reason I stopped buying consoles.

>>383497316
In the case of Xbox, you are wrong, it's tied to your hotmail/live/outlook account and you can login in any console not used by pedophiles.
>And the Xbox one further improved that by holding you xbox 360 content and pc content
>What a time to be alive

That's is true in the case of the Wii. But it's still online and you can transfer to another Wii as long as Nintedo maintains it (the law for mantaining support in japan is good for the consumer)

>>383497831
he looks like PC cuck though.

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>>383497919
nah if you just made him black then he's this guy

>>383497706
>successful games are 'cherrypicked'
well no they're just more popular than modern console games, sorry buddy
>games that aren't popular somehow make popular ones irrelevant for some strange reason.
You don't get it, you're just looking for a flamewar.

>>383497465
>Any PC forum
what? I can go on console forums on see people complaining too though.

>all console games have AA
wrong
>many have 60 fps
but many do not

>console are getting the better games overall it seems

going by review scores, which apparently we are, PC has 110 games on metacritic rated 90 or above. PS4 has, 19. not even 1/4 of what PC has

>>383498108
it's 2017, I don't play games at 900P/30 fps.

>>383497831
It doesn't has sound?

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>>383495984
>fire up fifteen year old pc game
>public servers still up and running, people still playing the game, community servers even exist now

I love it when people mention this like it will be anything other than you and the other 200 autistic fags who can't let some old game go and act like it was the natural endpoint of all game development ever.

>>383497894
you're talking about xbox 360? there was the digital rights transfer option for your account. you're trying to imply that once your console is dead your xbla games are gone forever, when they're not. you can transfer your digital license to a new console. it was the same with any dlc you had.

it's obviously some licensing shit that was required under the distribution of digital indie games and dlc at the time or some shit. it's not on the new xbox one which points towards licensing changes.

>>383488909
>didn't break the crates
God fucking damn it fuck this guy.

>>383498201
most ps4/xbone games are either 1080 30fps, or 720/900 60fps

>>383496275
>drop hard drive
>lose everything
>no websites have a steam crack available to download
>can't play games

RIP retarded goalposts

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>>383498012

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>>383498218
Did you learn English from lolcats or something?

>>383497316

I can license transfer my 200+ digital 360 games to any console I want every few months. I love how my xbone even shows all the games I own that are bc even if I haven't dled them yet.

ITT: console kids get assblasted because sven coop is more fun than anything released for playstation in the last five years.
But those cinematic experiences are amazing though aren't they? My homosexual lover and I were blown away by the social issues presented by The Order 1886, simply amazing gaming.

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>>383497894
>Trying this hard

anon-kun watch out about lies, you can lie youself so much and end up believing in them

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>>383497894

>>383488909
>piracy

Mainly to minimise piracy.

I say minimise because PS4 and Xbox games still get cracked and torrented,

Regardless it still works pretty well and only a very tiny minority of hardcore pirates console games. For the average normie its simply not worth the effort.

>>383498102
Wow, so I should play Quake and CS:GO over and over because it's popular on PC? What if I want to play fighting games? How does it apply to your argument again?

literally, if you don't have a pc for gaming, you don't deserve to game. gtfo poorfags.

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>>383498358
>someone breaks into your house and steals your discs
>was always 100x more likely than Steam randomly going out of business and this argument was always retarded

>>383498468
>because PS4 and Xbox games still get cracked and torrented,
Yeah, years later. Most of the X-box360 titles took at lest 5 years to crack.

>>383498108
>what? I can go on console forums on see people complaining too though.

You want see it so much as PC. Everyone knows consoles are more convenient. It's common knowledge

>wrong
It's really not
>but many do not
But many do. Why cherrypick only 30fps? For shitposting?
>going by review scores, which apparently we are, PC has 110 games on metacritic rated 90 or above
Name one PC exclusive from last years with scores higher than BB or TLOU

Do PC only people play multiplayer games exclusively?

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>>383498676

>>383498428
>>383498441
I know because it happened to me, my 360 RROD'd and the new one I got couldn't play any Sega XBLA titles due to DRM, stop shitposting your cretins.

>>383498669
nah. i have a shitload of fun playing borderlands 2 singleplayer and i'm playing through wolfenstein: the new order rn.

>>383498640
>everyone knows
>common knowledge

Literally not an argument.

Can just give any opinion I want and then say 'common knowledge'

>>383498554
crvena zvezda fans out!

>>383498385
You could criticize and also answer the question in the same post you know

>>383498741
That's not a picture of an overweight person you've completely ruined it

>>383498484
There was no argument. I simply stated that PC has older games with large online playerbases unlike console where that's not even possible because servers get shut down. no idea why you're autistic fighting game obsession keeps getting brought up.

>>383498365
>>383498676
>>383498741

you're making fun of other people using these pictures but this is how other people see you. you're literally the same as the people in these screencaps you're posting.

>>383498640
>But many do. Why cherrypick only 30fps? For shitposting?
cause fucking it looks like trash and any console fps that runs at 30fps should not be played on console at all, letalone released.

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Consoles allow devs a technical anchor to set their games at as a majority of PC gamers play on toasters and the PC gamers with rigs powerful enough to play all the newest games aren't a big enough market to justify making big budget games exclusively for

>>383498741
>>383498676
The best place to hunt for retards is online store reviews. They have no community to bully them, so retards roam free there.

>>383498768
Wow, what's next? Evidence that sky is blue? PC is non standarized hardware unlike console. Every dev and every non retard knows software for multiple configurations will always have more problem and be less stable.

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>buy game
>can lend it to friend

Check and mate, PCfags.

>>383498669
No but it's nice to have the option because Sony or MS didn't decide to kill the multiplayer servers to save a few cents.

>>383498676
>>383498741
Sweet goggly goodness. These people can't be real surely

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>>383499017

>>383498928
>cause fucking it looks like trash

I never asked how it looks to you, I only asked why are you cherrypicking and shitpost. I can cherrypick too.

>>383491609
>can't make copies/back ups
>xbox live/ps4 stores
>already forgot MW2
>x360 failed within three years
>xone/ps4 are seeing at least three hardware revisions that bring new features
>implying
>implying
>implying

>>383492283

Yeah I turned off the video once he said that shit too. He answered his question. He said hes a tech nerd that is curious to check it out, so this fucking moron answered his question in the first 30 seconds of his video.

>>383498757
The opposite happened to me
>I have multiple consoles

>>383498640
>common knowledge
not an argument

>why cherrypick only 30fps
except I don't need to cherrypick 30 fps, its most of them.

>from last years
why does it need to be from recent years? does a game need to be recent to be good?

both baldurs gate 2, half life 2 (which had much worse reviews on the console ports), and civ IV all have better or equal reviews to BB and TLOU

>>383498969
>Wow, what's next?

I dunno, maybe an actual source with numbers for what you said rather than just theory?

Look how many Xbox 360 got Red Ring of Death. Tens of millions. Even though hardware configuration is the exact same and should have been easy to spot

>>383499086
>actually valid argument
>brushed off as bait
why?

>>383498669
Most PC owners irrefutably spend most of their time playing cancer like Dota2, League, and that shitty card game

>>383499185
>not an argument

It is argument.

>except I don't need to cherrypick 30 fps

Yet you do this and excluded 60fps games.

>why does it need to be from recent years?

I don't know. People want to play new games? Advance? Why should I buy system to replay 20 yr old games? Why not stay with pong or Atari?

>>383499271
Sure, I'll bite.
You can share games on Steam and you can share your account on GOG.

>>383499304
cause it's a fuckin stupid point and he knew it too lmao.

>>383499271
pcbros start to lose their shit after swallowing some trues

>>383499403
it's not a true. he knew it was stupid cause he put a fucking ironic pepe frog.

>>383499334
> Why should I buy system to replay 20 yr old games?

because they are good games? you can play new games but still appreciate older ones. BG2 is a masterpiece and shouldn't stop being enjoyed because it's old.

Not everyone has bought into the philosophy that games degrade like bananas and need to be "remastered" every 4 years to remain good.

>>383499350
"!A shared game can only be accessed by one person at a time, which means you still won't be able to play any games together." fuk dat pc boi

>>383499271
I have all my housemates games on steam family account sharing.

It's just another thing where nobody will bother taking it seriously because it's consolefags not knowing a fucking thing about the platform that they spend all day shitposting about

>>383499657
Considering your logic I should stay with NES. You just admitted that PC is dead system.

>>383499750
this

>>383499736
>have 1 disc of game
>lend disc to friend
so how do you play the game at the same time

>>383494727
>Same with BOTW
LOL

BOTW was emulatable within weeks of it's release on PC. So was OoT in the nineties, btw. Also Persona 5 was playable on PC before it was on a western PS3/4.

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>>383499334
List 10 games that do 60fps if there are so many lmao.
Bonus points if they go 1080p combo

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>>383499334

Loads of issues on console games. Common knowledge. No data needed thank you.

>>383499913
I know on xbox when you buy a game digitally you get 2 licenses and give somebody one license for free.On pc u can't even resell your shit bruh.

been on steam since 03, valve doesn't deserve 30% fuk dem

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Why exactly do you care about what platform other people play videogames on?

>>383499812
NES Can't play games outside its lifespan you faggot.

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>>383488909
Taken from one of the comments

>Being able to own the games you buy in physical form which means you can loan, sell or trade them in
>Console competition usually spawns some pretty good exclusives
>Games can be designed around a single standard controller
>Couch/Party play is MUCH easier on a console than a PC
>MUCH less hacking in multiplayer
>A lot of games being ported to the PC today were made for consoles, and the PC versions come out buggy and are sometimes even unplayable until FANS fix the damn thing

Why couldn't this fat fuck even figure out one of these reasons by himself?

>>383499736
Step 1 - Go offline.
Step 2 - That's it.

Also on GOG you can just download the .exe, put it in a pen/dropbox and use it.

Also this >>383499913

>>383500064
Because he's PC cuck. Insecure filled with inferiority complex and attention whoring.

>>383499812

If a NES game still holds up there is no reason not to play it. But like i said, new games are awesome too, its just that on a console with actual backwards compatibility you can enjoy new and old games, instead of waiting for the second re release of a ps2 game so you can actually play it.

>>383500063
your argument is all over the place and doesnt make a lick of sense. i asked about sharing discs, you talk about buy1get1 free digital codes. you talk about how you cant resell digital licenses on steam, yet you cant resell digital licenses on xbox either.

you cant share an xbox digital code. you cant resell an xbox digital code. how is this different than steam

Console:
>Closed system
>Cheap
>Exclusives
>Plug and play
>Very little configuration necessary to play the game
>Multiplatform games are graphically weaker
>Option to go physical: you buy the game, you own it forever until you get rid of it
>Hardware generally lasts about five years (XBX and PS4 Pro are the exception here)
>Harder to cheat in multiplayer games
>Paid online gaming

PC:
>Expandable, very configurable
>Variable pricing: can go as cheap or as expensive as you want
>Exclusives
>Variable setup: some games require lots of fiddling, some don't
>Extensive configuration necessary to play games
>Almost all games are locked down to one of the DRM platforms (Steam, Origin, etc. Gog is the exception here)
>No discs to scratch up/get stolen/lose
>Multiplatform games are graphically stronger in all cases
>Some "PC ports" are rushed and shoddy, requiring lots of setup and/or user mods to become playable or able to outperform consoles (Dark Souls, Nier Automata come to mind)
>Has other uses aside from gaming: word processing, work-related tasks, video/music library, sky's the limit here
>Online games often easily hacked/cheated in
>Private servers available for many games here: set your own server rules, etc.
>Free online gaming

The takeaway here is that both have strengths and weaknesses, and if you want to play ALL the exclusive titles and not miss out, you'll own a PC and all consoles and handhelds. Not everything needs to be a do or die decision. Just get it all, baby. Best of both worlds.

>>383500108
>Games can be designed around a single standard controller

what? being able to remap controls makes this complete irrelevant. But pretty much every PC game is build around a keyboard and mouse.

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>>383500108
>>Being able to own the games you buy in physical form which means you can loan, sell or trade them in
yeah cause it's hard to get a cd-rom for your pc and buy a pc disc. it's also hard to use steam or any other online service.

>Console competition usually spawns some pretty good exclusives
yeah so what i'm gonna abandon ship just cause of like 2 exclusives

>Games can be designed around a single standard controller
oh nooooooo button mapping so hard for me figners

>Couch/Party play is MUCH easier on a console than a PC
>MUCH less hacking in multiplayer
who fucking gives a shit

>A lot of games being ported to the PC today were made for consoles, and the PC versions come out buggy and are sometimes even unplayable until FANS fix the damn thing
seriously who gives a shit just wait for them to fix it

>>383500059
I never said they don't have issues I said PC has much more. Not only you lack basic knowledge about computers but also suck at reading comprehension?

>>383499965
http://www.videogamerplus.com/2014/09/60-fps-native-1080p-ps4-games-list.html

>>383500397
Forgot to add:
PC:
>All controller options available: with the right adapters you can use any controller from any console
>Keyboard and mouse offer more control than a controller in FPS, grand strategy, etc. (Some console games can use KBM)

>>383500463
Inb4 >too much of a hazzle

>>383500540
>I said PC has much more

Yeah which means fucking nothing because you've literally already admitted that you either can't / won't prove that

>>383500397
>>Multiplatform games are graphically stronger in all cases

No, in rare cases. Most PC's have worse graphics than consoles.

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>>383488909
>all of the criticism he has doesn't apply to the Switch
>still lumps Nintendo in there

>>383500683
turn the settings up from low

>>383500683
I should have prefaced by saying that, if your PC has the chops, it will outperform consoles graphically. This ties into the cost factor I mentioned

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>>383500683
what the actual fuck

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>Eceleb console war thread

>>383500641
It's not my fault that you are retarded anon.

>>383500683
this. not all pc players have new gpus. most play on integrated solutions.

>>383500697
>praises them at the end

>>383488909
>>383489010
Probably to play games, the video kind.

>>383498278

Why would you let a game go? especially if there isn't anything better nowadays?

>>383500475
>>games you buy in physical form which means you can loan, sell or trade them in
>it's also hard to use steam or any other online service.
You obviously missed the point.

>>Couch/Party play is MUCH easier on a console than a PC
>who fucking gives a shit
People with actual social lives, you wouldn't understand.

>>MUCH less hacking in multiplayer
>who fucking gives a shit
Now you're just shitposting.

>>383500712
I did. Game don't work now and still looks worse than console version.

>>383500475
>being this ignorangutanguan
the point it's not being hard to use steam, it's that steam is a drm service that if goes offline you lost you game
physical, no

>waiting fans to fix it because you are a LAMMER
good luck with that in 2098, faggot

>>383500868
>says something that he can't back up at all
>tries to deflect

Consolefags are such fucking worms. You could at least stop posting rather than just going full retard

>>383491609
>physical games without drm
the console *is* the drm. that has literally been its only purpose ever since PCs started offering the same specs for less money.

>>383500540
>I never said they don't have issues I said PC has much more

Is this from your big quantitative study of shitposts you read on /v/?

>>383500963
what's a lammer
seriously tell me and i'll continue the conversation

>>383488909
An easy way for people to consume games. PCs are still more of an enthusiast hobby but EA wants little Timmy to ask mom to buy him the new BF.

>>383500981
nigga u srs. ps4 slim and xbox one both sell for 200$ here, ps4 pro was 299 here for short time. u stupid?. build me a pc that runs bf1 for 200$ den we talk

>>383500981
Not a problem if it doesn't kill the game
It seems the drm word hurt your feelings. You should seek help.

valvefags are worse than crackwhores I tell you

>>383501059
Like I said it's common knowledge but I know PChildren are technologically illiterate.

>>383491609
Yeah, I'm sure the suits over the big videogame publishers and the big console manufacturers discuss how can you still own your games. I'm sure they care.

>>383501081
(You)

the joke is, he is a nintendo shill

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>summer console war thread

>>383500063
>You can't even resell your shit
Only actual retarded people do this.
>>383499736
Yeah but what games are there to share on Xbox one or PS4?
also GOG is DRM-free so you can have your friend log on and download the game then play it together, so argument discarded.

>>383501282
>it's common knowledge

That doesn't mean anything. Just that you want to give opinion that you can't prove at all.

>PC is better than console
>it's common knowledge

wow that was easy

>>383501239
>Not a problem if it doesn't kill the game

Games like Scott Pilgrim vs the world that are digital only locked to consoles will be forgotten when the last xbox360 and ps3 die. That would never happen even on a digital only PC release.

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>power of a PC
>the convenience of a console

is it the perfect device?

>>383501081
lammer
A numbered, chip-like implement placed on a casino gaming table
indicating the amount of value chips that have been removed from a
table tray during a table credit slip transaction, or an amount of chips
that has been given to a customer for wagering on credit prior to
completion of a credit instrument (marker).

When the customer requested a marker for the remainder of his credit line, the pit boss put a 5000 lammer on the blackjack table and the dealer cut out $5000 in chips to give the player.

>>383501448
Sure is, don't you remember >it's common knowledge ?

>>383488909
>2017
>watching ClickBaitUSA

>>383501495
its power isn't as good as they say it is. if it was on par with a gtx 1080ti then maybe but it's fake news.

>>383494806
Nobody hacks in fighting games because the only people who play fighting games are lonely losers.

>>383500063
>pc u can't even resell your shit bruh.

Does it make any sense to resell your stuff, generally to buy the latest games, when I can just wait and get what I want for $10 or $5? While most used console games go on sale for $45?

>valve doesn't deserve 30% fuk dem

And gamestop deserves all that money you give them when you sell them your games and buy new ones?

>>383500475
Calm down you retard.

>>383501196
consoles are more often than not sold at a loss and then subsidized by the games which are on average more expensive than they are on PC, so they retail price of the console alone really doesn't mean anything. console + games will always be more or just as expensive as PC + games.

Who is this faggot and why should I care? His opinion doesn't effect me or what I buy in any way, shape, or form so why should I even care about he thinks?

I wish faggots stop giving reviewers this much power over the things they enjoy. People literally letting faggots tell them what game/console/platform they should or shouldn't buy. People letting other people dictate what album they enjoyed or not. I've literally seen people go from loving an album to hating an album just because Fagtano didn't like it. The internet really does let you see how pathetic human beings can actually be.

>>383501720
Not true since that would imply only PC friends play them.

>>383495356
Multiplayer games seem to die when the newest one comes out on console. You cant even go back and play bf3/bfbc2 meanwhile theres tons of full servers for both and even bf2 on pc

>>383488909

consoles were born to bring videogames inside homes when all we had were arcades

their use expired a long time ago, only nintendo understood it and decided to build them around specific features you cannot get anywhere else (portability, motion controls, stereoscopic 3D, hybrid gaming, exclusives built around those features)


people love to hate them but there's nothing even remotely logical about owning a ps4 or an xbone unless you REALLY love bloodborne, uncharted, halo etc., you could argue the same about switch but at least there's something unique being offered.

>>383501847
just wait until they close down key shops. it will happen, no doubt.

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>This thread is shit.
Nice monday everyone!

Point of consoles? Everyone but the autistic top 5% of gamers won't even notice the difference between the power of a console and a PC. I have recently stopped caring about silky smooth 144fps and 1 sec load times on SSD with access to a steam library of games I'll never play. The troubleshooting of PC's is a huge reason why. If a game starts running like shit after an update it could literally be ANYTHING on your computer causing it. GPU, CPU, some weird bug with your card model, memory leaks, even your fucking sound card can cause shit to fuck up. Then you're waiting for the devs to fix your specific problem, and sometimes they never do.

Then you have consoles which are so much simpler. If there's an issue, pretty much everyone has it, so the next patch is 99.5% likely to fix whatever issue you were having and you know your issue is top priority because the hardware is the same for everyone so if it gets fixed for them it's fixed for you. I was spending so much time messing with settings and troubleshooting issues that I had no interest in the games anymore.

Plus everything I would want to play is on the ps4 anyhow so who gives a fuck about some overpriced PC that is more trouble than it's worth. And if I need to replace the console, maybe $400 down the drain, no big deal. Replace parts in PC? Adds up fast. Replace laptop, $1500+. No thanks. Keep your master race.

>>383501960
And yet they still sell millions upon millions of consoles year in and year out. Good argument though faggot. As long as they continue to get actual exclusives and games while PC has to resort to port scraps and Farming/Euro Truck Simulators, then consoles will remain relevant.

>>383498358
>Drop Hard drive
If you are gonna respond retardedly I am gonna treat you like a treat.
But you are free to enjoy your shittier vesion of video games.

>>383502159
>a game starts running like shit
shouldn't of pirated the game povvo

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>>383502164

>b-but they sell

Also a "good" argument dingus, guess what other things sell? Cigarettes, and those have big giant texts that say "you will die if you smoke this" that sure is stopping people is it?

>>383502301
>food analogies
refrain from living at once

>>383502164
>As long as they continue to get actual exclusives and games...... then consoles will remain relevant.

No one is actually buying them for the exclusives though. Have you seen the list of top sellers?

Xbox's LFG feature is one of the best things to happen to the industry and only Xbots know about it. It's literally why I buy my Multiplayer games on my Xbox instead of my PS4.

>>383502159
>Everyone but the autistic top 5% of gamers won't even notice the difference between the power of a console and a PC. I have recently stopped caring about silky smooth 144fps
yeah over 60 it doesn't matter but when it gets below 60 (especially in fps) it takes a dip in your experience

>pcs have problems
it's not that fucking hard to fix it. unless you're a dumbass (which is evident) it won't matter.

>everything i wanna play is on ps4
that's your opinion anon, not mine

>$1500+ to replace parts
ok anon you're funny

>>383502426
in a discussion about whether anyone should buy consoles, you bring forward as an argument that "they sell" - flawless circular reasoning, couldn't have made it up

>>383502301
>terribly shit analogy

What's funny is that doesn't help your argument faggot. Cigs and Alcohol literally kill thousands people year in and year out and yet they still make billions and remain relevant to this very day lmao nice argument tard you've gone from actually being retarded to actively helping me prove my point.

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>>383502491
>Xbox's LFG feature is one of the best things to happen to the industry and only Xbots know about it.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DON'T TELL THEM

>>383502484
>nobody are buying them for the exclusives

That's even worse on your part then. Because that means people are buying them because they prefer it to PC vs I only bought it because they had my favorite exclusive like /v/ likes to meme. But then again the retards on here like to call it a Bloodborne machine because that's the only game they have an interest in playing because they have shit taste so I guess it's to be expected.

>>383502668
It wasn't me, I was just shitposting over your dumb mistake

>>383491609
Your other points are valid, but there is nothing wrong with gog. Other than the fact that they still don't have Dark Messiah.

>>383502929
too bad it wasn't me who made the food analogy post either, I was just truthposting over the previous anon's dumb mistake

Is that the newest ratchet and clank? I haven't played r&c after 2, is this one good?

>>383502929
oh and by the way, not everything that has food in it is a food analogy. the argument was that things that sell must be good and anon provided a counterexample with cigarettes. a counterexample isn't an analogy.

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>Top 15 sold PS4 games
>There are THREE Fifa games on it with 17 being top 5
>Minecraft is there too

Fucking explain yourselves console fags, especially you EU.

Why should anyone listen to your fucking opinions when you're buying shit like this en mass?

If games are shit or mediocre nowadays, wouldn't console gamers be most at fault since sales dictate what is made?

Take some fucking responsibility, you're the reason why every FPS is CoD, DLC, on-disc DLC, and other bullshit exists.

PC owners can fess up that we ruined the MMORPG genre and partially helped Minecraft become shenanigans but most of the other bullshit is on your asses.

>>383493085
>Only games bought digitally are drm
Hows that backup library of your xbox cds coming along?

>>383495467
>I never had problem like that and I play on consoles for 20 years. Don't even want to read further.
Well yeah if you played the same console for 20 years I can see that. You know they have new ones out now, right?

>>383502881
I don't see how 'I bought it because it's easier to play FIFA' is that much better

>>383488909
to make money for companies
if all games were released on pc then I wouldn't have a problem getting one
however I find there are more games I enjoy that happen to be on console only than those that are also on pc
It all boils down to if it has fun games then I will the get machine for it

>>383501847
>consoles are more often than not sold at a loss
People still actually believe this?

>>383504336
nintenbros who were only an active gamer during the wii u's lifespan most likely do.

>>383504336
bread is sold at a loss by supermarkets anon

>>383504336
they sold ps4 pro for 299 here. Thery make a profit, people are exaggerating production costs. foxconn slave labour ftw

>>383500475
>Couch/Party play is MUCH easier on a console than a PC
>MUCH less hacking in multiplayer
>who fucking gives a shit
Faggot cheater detected.

>>383500108
Exclusives are straight up cancer. When your hardware is completely meh the only way to get someone to buy into your ecosystem is to negotiate exclusive contracts that hurt consumers.

>>383488909
This is just stupid, like it or not, consoles have largest playerbase.
i have better question. What's the point of life?

>>383502484
Early adopters buy consoles because exclusives.
Early adopters are the first ones to recommend a console to their friends or online.
As more people read or hear good things about a console they might be more inclined to buy it.
Since a console has good reputation it attracts more unsure consumers, these ones are the bulk of the sales.
And now that a lot of people have said console more people will be attracted to it since it has a bigger userbase.

Exclusives do sell consoles even if them themselves don't sell that much.

>>383505409
Got a source on this, between league wow and mine craft there are stupid amounts of people on pc

>>383505409
>consoles have largest playerbase
at least try to sound believable when you make up facts

>>383489281
Subjective concepts need not apply.

>>383505631
Source is his ass, PC playerbase is larger than all consoles combined. Console can only pull ahead by picking specific crossplatform games that are more popular on consoles.

>>383500108
Not to mention Windows is OBJECTIVELY the worst OS ecosystem; period.

This isn't up for debate btw.

>>383505443
What exclusives did early adopters buy the PS4 for?

Knack and Infamous?

>>383505409
m8 LoL alone has more players in one month than ps4,xbox one, wii u and switch have had in their lifetime. it has over 100m monthly players

>>383507284
Lol

anyone wish consoles had 6 button layout instead of just four?

>>383507284
Doesn't it have to be at least #2 since xbox is just windows gaymen edition?

I got banned for a week for saying this, but I'll say it again in somewhat nicer language as to not hurt any special janitor snowflakes.

PC sucks because every game is glitchy.
>decide to join le PC masterrace
>download Jade Empire because I've never played it before
>glitch where the mouse doesn't show up and you can't scroll through descriptions of anything
>Google it: "yeah, the glitch has been here forever and there is no fix, so you'll just have to live with it"
>download Grand Theft Auto 3 for some good old fashioned fun
>"cannot start because 640x480 video mode not found"
>Google it: every result says the exact same thing, with forum posts having 50% of responses saying it didn't work and every YouTube video with 50% dislikes
>"oh well, guess you'll all have to live with not being able to play it even though your specs can technically run it"

What's the point of playing on PC if you don't have a build that can play AAA beautifully at full 1080p and 60fps max? If you can't even achieve that, you may as well stick to csgo like every other turdworlder with a PC.

>>383508458
While you can still go play csgo, for the AAA titles you could just drop down to 720p @30fps for the console experience. Best of both worlds.

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>>383488909
This point of consoles is for gaming, entertainment and social activity. It's not that hard to understand.

Fuck off spergtechusa

>>383495984
Lol
>fire up 15 year old game
>15 people playing total
Not to mention what happens when a multiplayer game comes out on both PC and console
>20k players on PC at best unless it's another DayZ mod
>decreases to nothing within a week
Meanwhile, fucking black ops 2 on ps3 still gets 40k players daily.

>>383508853
>fire up current year game
>I have to pay microsoft to be allowed to use my own internet
>game is still hosted locally on my own box

>>383488909
Is he retarded? Because the market is not driven by consumer interest but by money instead. If games were avaible on all platforms then consoles would be obsolete. But they aren't. Companies pay money to develop games or have them developed for their platforms, marketing is still one of the biggest factors in consumers choice when it comes to gaming platforms instead of specs and hardware, crossplatform multiplayer is still not the norm and different regions have different preferences for video games which results in games being released on different platforms. Consoles are not the same as PC and vice versa, therefore they can't replace each other. Maybe in a few years, but certainly not now.

>>383508593
But console is 1080p and 30fps with cinematic dips. Besides, the vast majority of PC players play on toasters, why is also why they play games like league, dota and cs.

>>383509516
The people on toasters couldn't afford either so it's irrelevant. PC is their only option. Console literally doesn't have an answer to that market.

>>383509057
>proceeds to fire up tf2 pony erp