67 US DOLLARS

40 bucks more, and you get GTX 1050, which would run all the big-name titles at 1080p / Medium at 60fps, and a huge majority of all other games at med-high settings.

What are you doing? Are you trying to get console fags to switch to pc? You just dont get it do you faggot

>>383477569
I got the 1050Ti and I am really enjoying it

>>383477569
for just $400 more you can get a 1060
fucking ethereum miners

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>>383477361
>1030
>Play 100% of all games in 900p60fps medium settings

>>383477361
>1080p low settings
It is a tad weaker than 750 Ti, it can't really do that reliably.
Do what this >>383477650 guy did if you want a good budget gaming GPU.

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>>383477643
I'm saying GTX 1030+PS4Pro = masterrace

>>383477725
Britfag here, I'm not really seeing a change in prices for the 1060/1070.

>>383477725
>cryptocoin mining
>nvidia

I wish there were more 3 or even 4 slot coolers, just massive heatsinks with a super low RPM 120mm fan stuck to it for maximum cooling with the least noise.

The cheap OEM fans on my GTX 560 and then 680 both broke, so I just ripped the entire shroud off, ziptied a 120mm fan to each of them, left them at a barely audible 800 RPM and they were both quieter and cooler than stock.

Just give me a THICC card that runs extra cool and silent

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>>383477825

>>383477958
>not buying GT 740 fanless
>not buying GT 1030 fanless

>>383477849
one of the cards I bought for $240 just two weeks ago is now $405

>>383477361
even though i'm an AMD fag, the gtx 1050ti is objectively the best budget card right now because all the rx 480/580's are hoarded by buttcoin miners

>>383477725
>"for just $400 more you can get a 1060"
>tfw they're still 240-279€ in my country depending on the model

>>383477781
>It is a tad weaker than 750 Ti, it can't really do that reliably.
750ti was already shown to run stuff like GTA5 at 1080p, Very High pre-set, at ~35fps average, which would translate into easy 60 at med-high combo.

>buying anything lower than xx50ti in any nvidia generation
wasted money, you're retarded

>>383477825
>Natural Doctrine

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>>383477849
Bulgayrian here, compared to early last month, 1060 and 1070 prices have risen by about 30-40%. The Rx 500 series was MIA for a week or two recently (as in, no stock anywhere), and has now returned to shelves with a price hike similar to Nvidia's.
Ethereum miners are the scum of the Earth, and I realize how autistic this outburst sounds. Sue me.

>>383478067
and the 750ti has aged poorly and can't handle the newer titles

and you honestly think the 1030 will?

>>383477825
>all those shitty games

>>383478173
>gay bulgarian
viktor krum is that you

>>383478042
GTX 1060s (6GB) have been about £250-300 ($322-$386 tax included) for like a year or something, I've been waiting to buy one hoping for a drop in price but it never happens

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>>383478036
You realize this exists, right?

>tfw in a fucking leaf
>gtx 1070 prices
send help and maple syrup

>>383478207
you're lucky then
canada is actually completely out of stuck for the entire RX 400/500 lineup as well as 1060s

1070s and 1080s got pricier too

the states is in a worse boat

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>>383478205
I'm not actually gay but how did you know?

>>383477825
Want to know how I know that you're black?

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>>383478067
yeah, EU wasn't hit too bad

>>383478207
They were around $250-$300 in the US
but they're out of stock almost entirely on Amazon and Newegg, and other sellers have them up to $400-$500

If you want help:
>Assemble your parts list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No i5 unless discounted
>G4560/G4600 - Budget builds (<$500)
>R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon)
>R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks
>i7 7700k - 144hz only
>R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor.
The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any <$30 cooler.
Buying used is perfectly fine for budgets (PSU excluded)

>>383477361
>no cooling needed
>heatsink larger than the entire PCB

>>383477725
shitcoin mining is a meme, those "miners" got their millions from other places and want to keep the curious people out of their hauls.

only $67?
cool, so i just plug this into my tv?

>>383478207
If it were a month ago, I'd advise you to look in to the used 970 market. Slightly worse performance than a 1060, but still perfect for 1080p 60fps, lots of enthusiast getting rid of them for a high-end Pascal means ~30% cheaper than a 1060 6GB.

>>383478304
>>383478264
Funnily enough, the UK has had a few drops in prices for the 1080ti, some currently at £580 ($747 inc. tax)

>>383478310
>brings /g/ to the thread instead of telling the thread to go to /g/
I know it's spoonfeeding, but I like you

>>383478246
>tfw a leaf from the prairies
>trying to sell my RX 480 locally
>literally nobody knows what the fuck ethereum is
>getting constant offers of $300 - $350 on my card

Stupid hicks.

>>383477361
>no cooling needed
Just look at that massive heat sink

>>383478182

The 750ti has aged really well though. But it has aged well for a long time yknow

>>383477825
>nigger
opinion invalidated

>>383478384
I still have a damn 660 in mine

>>383477569
>>383477650
1050ti's the perfect budget card unless you need a Russian budget card.

>>383478434
it's still not enough for modern titles and the 1030 performs even worse

I am low on funds, how the fuck do you do the crypto mining thing? I got a 4440 i5 and a 1060 6gb, is that good enough?

Are there any alternatives to the GTX 1050 Ti? Seems like a good card but I want something a bit stronger, contemplating buying a used GTX 970 or something

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>>383478565

>>383478603
Well shit, so you need 5k usd then to make money from this shit?

>>383477361
Waste of money
>Run 99% of modern games in 1080p low settings at 60fps
You wish, even my GTX 750 Ti get drops below 30FPS in Hitman and Dishonored 2, upcoming games are gonna be ever more demanding

>>383478595
Not with mining there isn't. Mind you, 970's have been hit as well (demand is increasing across the board) but not as bad as new Polaris cards. And NVidia's Kepler cards typically don't have enough VRAM to handle modern titles.

>>383477949
Nvidia cards are efficient enough that they work. They're no way as powerful as amd in mining, but it makes up for electricity bills. So just get a couple of them if you can't find an amd card. You're just gonna sell them off once the mining dies, so it's not likely you're losing any money in the long run.

>>383478595
>Are there any alternatives to the GTX 1050 Ti?
No, everything faster has inflated prices from the mining bubble.

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>>383478207
>mfw bought my 1070 before the miner-driven price hike

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>still rocking an i5 2500k and a radeon hd 6870
Time for an upgrade soon.

>>383477825
Let me see your hand nigger

>>383478816
The CPU should still be fast enough.

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>>383478816
>Phenom II X4 945
>750 Ti
>4(that's four) gigs of ram power
Who toaster here?

>>383478940
>FX 6300
>R7 265
>8GB ram
feelsbadman.jpg

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>>383477361
>low settings

>>383477569
Hey the 1050 ti is 30% cheaper than the 750 ti I bought a few years ago. Should I buy it or wait for something better? I think I won't see much improvement

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>bought my 980ti a month ago for 280 USD

>Not waiting for Raven Ridge to put the power of a 1050Ti into an iGPU

the 1030 is what you get when you cut grass, wash cars and take out the trash as your main income.

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Used inno3d gtx 970 for 130$. Fx4300 oc'd to 4.2ghz, 8gb shit ddr3
Runs new games is 1440p on high or ultra. Performs as good as my ps4 pro. Though pcs are more monry, had to buy case, aftermarket cooler, fans for case, fan for north bridge, psu etc

>>383479008
nah, it's underpowered for it's price imo, 1060 has way better price/performance value

>>383478940

>overclocked q9450
> HD4870
>4GB Ram
Right here. Every time I want to upgrade something happens. Good that I don't play anything.

>>383478783
>tfw stuck with RX 460 until gold rush calms down

>>383478875
I know I should do my own research but just this once what would you recommend looking at to replace the 6870.

>>383479064
It's said to have PS4-class graphics, the 1050 Ti is roughly twice as powerful as that.
Still really fucking impressive though.

>>383478207
My friend just built new pc and got 1060 6gb for 230£ from scan.co.uk

>>383477361
My ancient gtx770 is stronger than this piece of shit

>>383479167
Used 970 admirer reporting in.
Get a used 970

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>>383478783
What caused the sudden rush of miners? I'm out of the loop and don't farm crypto (yet).

>>383479125
1060 is double the price on my local online store, I'll just keep waiting since I don't need to upgrade anyways

>>383479273
People pretend that earning $50 mining shit in the hopes that their crypto thing rises in price is worth it, like bitcoin did.

>>383478940
tfw i7 920
GTX 560
Just upgaded from 6GB to 12GB of RAM
2 640GB hard drives

Don't even have a real monitor either, just have it plugged in to an ancient 46" TV.

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fucking miners

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>>383478565
>>383478689
Even with 5k invested, you can only make a few bucks a day (subtracted electronic costs and shits)

>be murrican
>can't purchase a graphics card because your country is populated by circumcised jews

>>383478875
Its not, it will hit 100% usage in new games and have horrible frame drops.

Why are the mining with gaming gpus anyway, wasn't there a class of gpu used for rendering?

>>383479396
I am mexican and our cards rised too because people bring them from burger land

>>383479273
Application-specific integrated circuits became the standard and most energy-efficient way to mine bitcoin, so using GPUs for that is not financially-viable anymore.
Ethereum's algorithm allegedly makes it difficult to impossible to make an ASIC board so GPUs are the way to go.

>>383479434
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/27/nvidia-to-launch-graphics-cards-specifically-designed-for-digital-currency-mining.html

>>383479413
CPUs are supposed to reach 100% usage. If they don't then you have a fucking GPU bottleneck!

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>>383478783
>tfw bought 1070 before price hike but shipment delayed...

>>383477361
i mean, it's a kiddie's first PC building opportunity, so I'm all for that

>>383479541
>retards on /v/ who don't know what they're talking about trying to give advice

>>383479541
what the fuck are you talking about

>>383477569
>Ever buying a low/mid-tier NVIDIA card
WTF are you doing?

i have a 950M How good/bad is this?
I paid 460 bucks for the laptop

>>383479434
Yes, they are lot more expensive than their gaming counterparts. There was Quadro released recently than was pretty much the newest Titan with more and faster memory (and a wider memory bus?). It costs five times what the Titan does.

>>383479624
It's decent.

www.canirunit.com

>>383477361
fucking what? You can literally buy 560 TI for 30-50 bucks if you want to save your cash.

>>383479624
Somewhat worse than OP's card. Pretty good for a cheap laptop.

Do you need to update mobos like you do GPUs and CPUs?

>>383478875
I could play nudoom with that setup but it still chugged like a motherfucker at times.

>>383479705
yes, often new cpus won't fit in your old moba

>>383479705
You generally just update the mobo if it fails or you require new cpu and ram.

>>383479704
>>383479687

I think i fucked up the CPU because i cannot find any benchmarks for it

I5-6200U

What does the U stand for? Underpowered?

>>383478310
>The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any <$30 cooler.
ryzen fanboys out

>>383479705
no, but you generally can't use new cpus on older boards

>>383478525
>it's still not enough for modern titles
such as?
There really has not been major jumps in requirements and shit since TW3 and GTA5.

People REALLY overestimate the system requirements of games. Hell, I'm still running a single GTX 560ti, and have played all the shit from RE7-TW3, no problems, at 1080p. Even fucking GTX 1050 fucking BTFO it in specs.

Looking in to building a PC. Is it worth forking out the best part of £500 for a GTX 1080, or are there cheaper older graphics cards out there that have got a decent amount of years left in them before the graphical demands of games will outstrip them?

>bought my RX480 for 200 before the miner craze

How much can I sell it for? Figure it might be a good idea to sell it and buy a rx580 when this mining shit comes to an end. It can't last forever.

>>383479848
Witcher 3 runs at 60 fps but with hairworks on in my 4440 i5 and 1060 6gb

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>tfw have only GTX 750 Ti
>but it's okay since there's no new good games anyways

>>383479779
the meme 212 evo is more than $30 though
they're basically saying don't buy anything shittier than that

>>383479848
>Hell, I'm still running a single GTX 560ti, and have played all the shit from RE7-TW3, no problems, at 1080p
at absolute lowest settings, and internal resolution turned down, yes
most people don't want to bother with that

>>383479850
Literally the worst time to build a PC at the moment. Come back when the crisis is over unless you really need a PC.

>>383479848
also most people don't want to play at 24fps

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>>383479917
You can't emulate ps2,gamecube and wii shit properly on a 750ti

>>383479923
>new cards are JUST around to corner dont build one now!
every single day of every single year

>>383479904
Just look up some prices online. If you can profit 100+, I'd do it.

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>>383479921
>at absolute lowest settings, and internal resolution turned down, yes
Nope. In said games, yes I had to turn more than a couple settings to "Low", but none was at LOWEST.

You know what sucks? When you're at that point where you can't just upgrade your GPU because if you do then your cpu is gonna be a huge bottleneck, so you also get a new CPU but then you also need a new motherboard to fit it and then you'll need to buy new ram as well

So basically if I upgrade my PC right now I might as well replace every single part other than maybe the power supply, case and ssd

>>383479982
No stupid fucker, the crypto miners made everything rise in price.

>>383479978
>implying
I'm playing PS2 games just fine

>>383479982
or because all the cards are at least $100 more than MSRP

>>383479978
what? it depends on the CPU, 750 Ti is more than enough for emulation you fuckwit

>>383479982
It is not the new cards being just around the corner moron. It is ETH killing off the entire midrange GPU. Unless you are buying low end (1050ti/560) or high end (1080 up) everything is easily 2-3 times more expensive than 2 months ago.

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>>383477361
You have to be over 18 to post on this webzone.

When you grow up and get a job you can afford an actual videocard, instead of wasting you pocket money on this, dummy.

>>383480028
that looks like shit and comes with a 24fps framerate

>>383479904
You can literally just flash your RX 480 into a 580. Sell it and buy Nvidia m8. I traded my 4GB 480 for a GTX 1070.

>>383479565
>>383479598
It's very easy. There are only 4 possiblilities.

>CPU usage <90% and GPU usage >90%:
The CPU is too fast for the GPU.
>CPU usage >90% and GPU usage <90%:
The GPU is too fast for the CPU.
>CPU usage >90% and GPU usage >90%:
The ideal case where both CPU and GPU are balanced.
>CPU usage <90% and GPU usage <90%:
The game is unable to use your hardware fully. Usually caused by shit like FPS caps, lack of multi-threading or driver issues.

How hard is it to start crypto mining?

Can i just run a 750Ti all night long and cash in fucking hundred of dollaroos at the end of the month?

>>383479958
You people really have weird assumptions.
I get easy 50+ fps in anything. Learn to tweak your games.

>>383480032
>tfw your autism won't let you replace parts anyway
I don't like putting something new in something old or vice versa. Next time I upgrade I'll do my entire rig again.

>>383480163
because the 560ti literally isn't capable of that senpai

>>383480160
hahahaha, no

>>383480142
that's not how cpu usage works

>>383479775
It means it's dual core.

>>383480064
>>383480087
Enjoy your 50- fps in most parts, liars

>>383477361
>playing at 900p/low
Is that the fate of the NEET?

>>383480160
Remember those click a banner and get a cent things in the 90s/00s? This is the same but one day with your GPU at 100% instead of a click, not to mention it's not a cent either, it's a mickey mouse cent.

>>383480163
>50+ fps in anything
no you can't

>>383479624
>M gpu
Gimped card, probably worse than gtx750

>>383480142
I hope this is b8, if so excellent quality, if not you are fucking retarded

>>383480290
/v/, and the internet in general, are full of liars talking about how their poverty cards run The Witcher 3 maxed at 120 FPS and other bullshit. Don't let it get to you.

>>383479624
Depends on whether it's DDR3 or GDDR5.
Assuming the latter it basically an underclocked 750Ti, so maybe 10% slower.
If it's the former you're looking at something like 40% slower at least.

>>383479775
Ultra-low power? Yeah, two cores. Has a pretty good single-thread rating, so should be decent for pre-2015.
Go play some Wither 2-3 or Dark Souls, faggot.

>>383480290
Take it easy, it's just poor people desperately rationalizing their terrible life situation.

>>383477361
>Gigabyte
Nope.

>>383480290
not sure if this is bait but you are retarded

>>383478875
I have an 2500k and a 1060 and it's starting to become a problem. I don't really care about new graphics heavy games (do they still make those?) but even running stuff like Overwatch I need to be careful not to have many tabs running flash or video open or it can cause stutter.

>>383478310
>>i7 7700k - 144hz only
What is this meme? If you suddenly need extra cores/threads for higher framerates, I don't see how you wouldn't pick an overclocked R5. Are there benchmarks that support this?

I thought it was just all the midrange cards that were being snapped up for mining which have had the prices driven up.? The prices for high end ones haven't really changed.

>>383480464
Kill youreselves, liars
I had a 750ti and now a 1060

>>383479624
>M gpu
Gimped card, probably worse than gtx750

>>383480560
But anon you don't understand.
The 750Ti can run all modern games, you just have to make them look like it's 2006 again!

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Can anyone rank the GPU card brands for me please? Gonna need both for Nvidia and AMD, I don't know anything about EVGA or Gigabyte

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>>383480596
lmao

>>383480694
MSI 4 lyfe for me

>>383480694

sapphire is normally the best brand. MSI and gigabyte normally have more problems.

MSI is normally the cheapest option but the worst fucking option.

>>383480290
Not really, i used to emulate 60fps on GoW 2 with a GTX 550Ti. 1gig of vram is enough for PS2 emulation for most games.

>>383480891
I thought pny was the worst option
Or you never talk about less known brands

>>383479114
what's your performance like on GTA V

>>383480962

Yes, you never mention those brands. They are never an option to begin with.

>>383480969
Like this
https://youtu.be/wihlViF7Su4

>>383480953
don't fall for the bait of these retards, they have no idea what they are talking about

>>383480160
You can run a 750Ti all night long and cash in one dollaroo at the end of the month.

>>383480891

For example the RX480 as mentioned before. The sapphire version runs way better than all the other options.

However MSI RX480 is a bit more quiet?

But who gives a shit about that, I'll go for the option that gives more fps.

>>383481268
That's a rather stupid choice.
Would you really rather have 2 fps more and a noisy card. Or a quiet one with ever so slightly less perf? You're not gonna notice a 3% difference in performance.

>>383481159
very impressive, how long are you planning on sticking with this system?

>>383481103
I got a pny 750ti, was fine. And a 1060 6gb I am using is also fine. They also have lifetime warranty.

>>383481548
Im planning just upgrading cpu to 6700k or something, have to get new motherboard for that and also faster ddr4 ram. Honestly its pretty bad ass as is as long game is not too much cpu intensive. Prey runs a bit worse, but RE7 totally maxed out(with shadows just high) keeps rock solid 60fps in 4k. Same with sniper elite v4 and dirt4 from recent games I tried

>>383481614
>lifetime warranty
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>383479114
>Runs new games is 1440p on high or ultra
Doesn't. Not at 60 anyway, or without equating medium to ultra somehow.

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Is there a good cheap card that can output three monitors?

>>383480694
Top tier: MSI, evga,
Mid tier: Galax, asus, gigabyte, pny, colorful
Low tier: palit, zotac
Just my 2 cents

>>383482183
Yes, Intel HD on Ivy Bridge and later.

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>>383477361
I still will never switch to pc so quit trying to recruit and indoctrinate people to your special master race platform. None of the games on pc are fun or interesting to me.

>>383482269
Ok, back to replaying Wallace & Grommit then, the true masterpiece.

>>383482183
Use your gpu for two and enable the igpu for another one.

>>383482269
So none of the emulable classics are good, get out 18 year old.

>>383482067
Depends on game. Dirt4, dark souls and re7 runs at 60 with dips in 50's maybe. Surge, prey, hitman, fallout 4 etc doesnt dip below 30, so Im fine with that. My shitty curse is that I got this great samsung ultra wide 4k monitor which is not designed for my budget pc

>>383479167
RX580

>>383477361
It's literally a goddamn GTX 750 Ti, that thing can't run games for shit.

>>383478313
It does seem like a really good way to sneakily write off a large income from less-than-legal activities

>>383482183
RX550?

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>>383480290
Surely you must be joking, I emulated a bunch of shit on the standard 750 (not even the Ti model) and the 270x Radeon, both of which are toaster cards on a FX6300 CPU.

Properly emulating usually has more to do with using the proper plug-ins and setting up every individual game, rather than just mounting the ISO and expecting everything to just werk and even then some games just don't emulate well.

>>383478565
economics my friend.
back when bitcoin was worth nothing, when you could not buy anything with it and it was easy to mine you could have made a fortune on any old PC.
There were people who lost potential millions just because they thought what they mined would never be worth anything and lost the wallet.
Now it has become worth a lot people mined it like crazy trying to get rich to the point that the amount earned versus electricity costs is so little that only by scaling up to incredible degrees can you hope to make anything more than pocket change.
https://youtu.be/K8kua5B5K3I
Ethereum is not bitcoin but because of the ridiculous rise in bitcoins value no cryptocurrency will ever be under-estimated again.
In fact if anything they get over-valued because every chucklefuck wants to get rich easy.

>>383477361
X50 cards and lower have always been trash

Not even good price performance, you could get a used 970 for a few bucks more

>>383477361
This is just sad

how fast does it mine bitcoin :P

>>383481715
I7s are a waste of money with the 1600 out there

Also Intel is ditching quad cores and going 6 core mainstream i5/i7 in September so worst time to buy a quad core

why it doesnt need cooling? I live in a very warm contry

>>383482935
Its so shit it doesn't even generate heat

Its made for office computers not gaming

>>383477825
You must have a lot of Bandai Namco credits

>want to upgrade pc
>not a single GPU in stock anywhere because of chinks coin mining

>>383482635
It's actually worse than 750ti

>>383482992
is it better than HD7790?

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>>383483130
>he laffed when I bought 1070 at launch
>now I laff when he can't afford it anymore

>>383481715
i7 is a really bad choice right now
Get a Ryzen 1600 or 1700

>>383483296
>i7
>bad choice
>get my slower cpu, you'll use the cores in 7 years I swear!

So when will the market stabilize?

>>383483234
No

>>383483241
Who's this cock sleeve?

>>383482269
Buffy <3

>>383482416
There is no there is no such thing as the masterrace?
>>383482545
I having fun playing games either way on my console. I never see you guys discuss games at all. All you guys talk about is just parts, politics, performance, anti console topics and steam sales.

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>Still no affordable card that can do 4K/60

>>383482935
heat is generated from lower power efficiency.
Desktop GPUs are less concerned with how much energy is used and more concerned with being as powerful as possible.
That's why desktop CPUs and video cards use fans.

Components designed to use less energy and don't need to be so powerful don't necessarily require a cooling mechanism to dissipate heat into the room.
A mobile phone needs to last on battery for as long as possible, if it was so powerful as to need its own fans it would probably use up too much energy to stay running for long.
Same with raspberry pis, they're low power and efficient so there's really no need for them to be cooled even further.

Also as a bonus point, a lot of modern GPUs have default settings that the fans don't spin at all until they hit 60 degrees Celsius.

>>383483296
I dont really want ryzen. I still have my 8threads and better sc performance which games are demanding now.
>>383482919
Didnt know that. Wont rush upgrading just yet then

>>383483375
when dedicated mining cards are released, so not for a couple of months

>>383483407
I don't know, I call her smug anime cunt.

>got a gtx 1050 for £120
i did good right???

>>383483430
Well you're right.

>>383483430
I emulate from NES all the way to ps2, wii and gamecube.
Just because I keep it in those game threads doesn't mean I don't emulate.
And there is an eternal emulator general at /vg/.

>>383483516
No. You can get 970 for 130-140 which is far more powerful

>>383483516
Should've got it a 1050ti for lik £15-£20 more

>>383483454
Ryzen has made Intel change to 6 cores with coffee lake, about time too we've had the same old quad cores for the past 7 years and i5s hit 100% usage in some 16/17 games which is why I wouldn't recommend them

Maybe 2+ years ago when the cpu market was stagnant

>>383483516
>buying anything below 1070

you played yourself

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>>383483516
>just a 1050 and not even the ti one

It might run Space Cadet flawlessly.

>>383483356
Its not 2011 senpai

They're also around the same ipc its just the clock speed difference. I'd trade 20% clock speed for double cores/threads anyway, especially when my 4690k bottlenecks my 980ti

>>383477361
PS4 don't run games at 900p, also congratulation on running games on GPU alone and assuming everyone live in Murrica with Murrica prices.

>>383477949
470/480 AMD cards are gone
so now latefags are buying 1060/1070 cards

Only cards that remain safe are the 1050 Ti and below, and the 1080 and above.

>>383483458
Those are already released

It'll stabilise when crypto crashes like it did last time when 290/7900s were bought out

>>383477949
>Miners buy up all the AMD cards on the market
>Everyone else hs to buy Nvidia now
>Supply can't keep up with demand, prices skyrocket

>>383483439
If you don't mind playing AAA shit at medium-low settings you can do 4k 60fps on any midrange card.
Most people only play CS, Dota, Rocket League and similar games that a toaster could run @4K

>>383478310
>>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
LOL why are they even listing this fucking card anymore? Even the 580 got grubbed.

>>383478205
>viktor krum
>gay
Oh God, what did that bitch retcon now

>>383483651
I have a 970 and was actually thinking of upgrading. Is it even worth it right now, price not factoring?

>>383483516
Thats terrible, my m8y got a 470 which is like 30-40% faster than a 1050 ti for £160

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>xeon 1231v3 + gtx 970
I´m good for at least 1-2 years

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how bad is this build??

>>383484012
it's only 1 generation old ffs. Why would you replace it already?

>>383484012
Depends on what you wanna play. As long as youre cpu is alright, no game should give you trouble in fhd

>>383484094
Get more RAM

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>>383484012
unless you're trying to make the push to 4K, why bother? the 970 despite it's 3.5gb of VRAM still destroys nearly everything on the market right now

>>383484012
No, why bother. Especially if you're on 1080p the 970 is still good/ on par with 1060

To get a decent upgrade you'd have to buy a 1080 or 1080ti.

Wait 2 generations before upgrading imo, especially when pascal is already over a year old

>>383484094
CPU needs to be a little warmer

>>383484094
>sub 40 degrees GPU
>87 on the CPU

fucking how, did your fan break or something?

I have a 280x.

I was wondering if I should grab as a gift to myself a new 3DS XL as my O3DS feels old, or maybe get a new GPU, though I have an i5 4460.

Should I get a new GPU instead, and which? My budget is around 250€.

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>>383477949
>cryptocoin mining
>nvidia
Ethereum can use CUDA cores to mine, so the market for 1060s (particularly the 6gb versions) and especially 1070s exploded.

Anyone know why are the 970 over 400 bucks now? Got one for 300 bucks 2 years ago at that was full price

>>383484792
Bitcoin miners

>>383484792
Bitcoin miner cunts. All card prices are through the roof.

My GPU peaks on 76°C during max load. Is it safe or not? The fans are really loud and I am always anxious.

>>383478940
My wife has been using the same setup since I upgraded and gave her my old rig, only hers with a 4000-series ATI GPU. Just bought a 1050 to slap in there for $100 and that shit runs most everything on medium or high settings. Those Phenoms are still kicking.

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>>383484962
most PC hardware can withstand upwards of 90°C temperatures

winter can't come soon enough

>>383484817
>>383484859
Elaborate

>>383484962
at 90°C GPUs will underclock to help them cool down fast, which results in a massive temporary performance drop.
If it never hits 80°C or more, you're fine. You could also look into buying a cheap fan to stick in your case and aim it at your GPU, they can be bought for less than $20.

>>383478993
Literally me
Any card from the rx560 and up would be an upgrade for us. Might just get a 1050ti since no rx570/580

>>383484962
Yes. Mine gets to roughly 80. It's not the best but it's not exactly something that's going to kill your GPU, unless it's doing that on idle.

You could try some better thermal paste or pads, or maybe being sure that your fan isn't slightly loose, I had some loose screws and I was getting some crappy noise, turned that fucker down by tightening them well.

>>383485154
I dont understand it much myself, but GPU cards are able to do the complicated shit that mining for cryptocurrency needs. I think the currency is then stored on the GPU. Miners basically buy every card they can and run them into the ground then get a new one, hence the market is bare as fuck and prices have skyrocketed.

>>383485282
It is truly a shame that the cryptocurrency meme didn't die.

>>383480160
>How hard is it to start crypto mining?
Mining in 2017 is for morons. Most new coins are like $0.0000002, so just spend $20 on something that looks promising and pray it hits a dollar in value, then cash out half of your investment and continue to pray the second half goes TO DA MOON.

>770 died
>want to upgrade to 1060
>prices exploded

fuck my life

>>383485253
I'm on the fence about 1050 Ti, it only gives about 20FPS boost in most games that I've seen on youtube, GTX 1060 would be a huge upgrade but the price is above my budget, maybe we should just wait for Volta? I heard it comes out later this year.

>tfw went for a super low end cpu with a shitty socket thats a dead end
Im running an overclocked amd 860k black edition
sadly my psu is also slowly dying
what should I do lads? im running a gtx 960 but my cpu is just so damn bad I hardly get above 30% utilization

>>383484506
no, i guess it reads the temps wrong, i have 5 fans constanly cooling the PC

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>can't buy a monitor because nothing on the market meets the upcoming REC.2020 standards
>can't buy a GPU because cryptominers
>can't buy RAM because smartphones

>>383485592
I've been playing the waiting game for too long, but I will probably have to keep playing it. I WAS going to buy a 580 the moment my new job started, but then the miners bought everything up. We might as well wait for vega to see if it's any good.

>>383484962
It's fine but you feel paranoid, underclock/voltage your gpu so that it gets below 70 for better longevity

>>383485765
I don't care if I'm edgy I want these people to fail and get bankrupt for getting in the way of my hobbys

>>383485779
I'm done with AMD though, been using it for past 3 years and it only has been nothing but trouble. Most games are optimized way better for Geforce, it's the safest buy.

>>383477569
once the again, the same old
>hey add [insert ammount here ] to get a better one
that defeats the whole purpose of budgeting

>current gpu sounds like a jet engine
>no funds to upgrade
fuck me

>Decide on a PC upgrade

>New games benefit a lot from GPU
>New GPU doesn't cost much, provides twice the framerate in most cases at the same resolution than what I have

>Zelda BOTW emulation benefits a lot from CPU
>New CPU that can run that shit at a bearable speed costs twice the price of said GPU and doesn't provide such benefits for newer games

Aaaahhh. Fuck.

>>383486003
>Most games are optimized way better for Geforce

That's true for older games but AMD's managed to get their chips into both major consoles so now devs are pretty much forced to optimize for AMD

>>383486349
not really, the only game that works much better on AMD is Doom, all the other games perform about the same on DX12

>>383477361
Why would I want to play video games with low or medium settings?

>>383485904
They deserve it. Inflating the market benefits nobody, they should have paced themselves. Now they can't get any cheap cards to mine with and neither can genuine consumers.

>>383486349
This is absolute bullshit.

>>383486687
>PS4: AMD hardware
>XBONE: AMD hardware
>PC games: endless multiplats designed first and foremost for consoles

Where is the lie?

When are the next gen nvidia cards set to come out?

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>>383486157
Two 120mm PWM fans: 20 bucks
4 pin GPU to PWM fan adapter: 5 bucks
PWM splitter: 3 bucks
some wire or cable ties: 1 buck
having a quiet GPU: priceless

while you are at it taking your GPU apart you can also replace thermal paste

How well do Ryzen 5 CPUs emulate NGC, Wii and PS2? I heard that they weren't optimal because they were multicore CPUs, but can they still get you to 60fps on most games?

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>1060 and 1070 cost more than a 1080
>people still buy the 1060 and 1070 instead

Someone fucking explain this, i've got a 1080 for a price lower than a 1060 because everyone bought the 1060 (with an already huge price) but nobody touched my used 1080.

>>383486786
maybe end of this year. High end models early-mid 2018.
Some pascal rebrands are expected.

>stuck on a 670
>cryptos cause card prices to skyrocket

It hurts, /v/.

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>>383477361
>bought this for 200 new at fucking salvation army in February
>its now close to double of what it was when I bought it new, the price was selling for 700 new and 550 used

fucking helll

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA73M4SV5024&cm_re=evga_980ti_hybrid-_-9SIA73M4SV5024-_-Product

>>383486786
They'll pinch out the Volta turtlehead whenever Vega threatens to look good.
'til then they will continue to milk Pascal

>>383484094
Get another 4GB stick and an Athlon x4 860k
Cheap upgrade that will make a huge difference

>>383486895
>emulating gamecube and wii

A wii is $10, just plug a hard drive into it.

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>>383478940
>i7 4770
>8gb of RAM
>GT 635
F U C K
i'd have a good PC if i had a good GPU

>>383479114
anon, you are making the best of your shitty situation and for that I am proud of you :)

>>383477361
don't be silly, it's fine for media centers and play indie games, nothing else

1050/1060 is the way to go if you're poor

>>383487024
I already own a modded Wii and played every worthwhile games on it, but emulation does have some advantages, such as Netplay and higher resolution. I'm mostly asking for PS2 emulation since there are some games I really want to play, such as Godhand.

>>383487219
remember to patch mario kart wii so you can still play online senpai

>>383487219
A PS2 network adapter is $7, buy one and use it to stick a harddrive in your PS2

guys i need some advice i'm looking building a new rig cheapo rig for just shit like browsing 4chan , twitch or general shit like that no gaming will take place on it. can you guys redpill me on whats is either a cheap ass desktop or just the min build ?
> inb4 buying pc i built my gaming one now im just looking for a cheapo fuck around one

>>383487428
You don't need a rig for that, get a chromebook or discontinued business laptop.

>>383486895
Well my 2500k does that just fine, and the ryzen cpus are on par with broadwell/Skylake ipc so they should be just as good as a 6700/7700 at 3.8-4ghz

>tfw laptop

Feels bad man.

>>383477949
Dude have you seen the price of the 1070s?

>>383477958
Just do a custom loop.

>>383487649
Ryzen@4Ghz is roughly equivalent to Sandy Bridge@5Ghz.

>>383486895
Easily
Even my FX8350 managed to get a stable 60fps on emulators with the exception of some demanding PS2 games
My Ryzen 1700 has no problem with those

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>>383483407
>>383483462
Rude desuwa

>>383477825
>Senran Kagura
>Dragon age inquisiton
>>>Dragon age inquistion on a fucking console
>NBA rehash shit


Wow jesus christ just stop playing video games

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>>383477361
>Run 99% of modern games in 1080p low settings at 60fps
Benchmarks place its performance lower than 750. I have a 770 and I can't even run 99% of modern games at 1080p 60fps on low.

REEEEEEEE WHEN IS THIS STUPID MINING BUBBLE GOING TO BURST???? I WANT TO BUY A GPU FOR A NORMAL PRICE REEEEEEEE

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>>383483241
Watch Teekyuu. Its fun and the episodes are like two minutes long.

>>383487534
appreciate the help but mainly was just looking for one since i already have the monitor , etc from the old one i used to use for this reason

>>383486216
If you're upgrading CPU you'll probably need a new mobo and DDR4 RAM as well
By that point you may as well buy a Switch or pick up a used Wii U.

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>>383478067
>750ti was already shown to run stuff like GTA5 at 1080p
Reminder that GTA5 was developed to run ps3 and xbox 360 and initially released in 2013. And on top of it being an old game -- even by the time it was released on PC -- it was very well optimized; its minimum requirements on PC list hardware from 2007.

GTA5 is a horrible, horrible game to base performance on, because practically no other game where grafix performance matters much released in the past half-decade isn't going to run as fast.

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>i5 4590
>gtx 1070
>16gb ram

my meme anime and vidya games pc

>>383488313
You still don't need a rig for that, go to any tech refurbisher and grab one of their 600 Dell Optiplexes or whatever

>>383477569
fpbp

1050 ti user

>>383487428
>>383488313
You can get a singleboard computer for like 30 bucks and they run off a fucking phone charger.

>>383488608
alright thanks i'll go check some places out

This might be the thread to ask this.
Do any 750ti owners here run Automata at a solid 60fps? I'm running it at lower than 720p and the framerate fluctuates from 35 to 50 constantly. Is it a "works on my pc" situation? I'm able to run DaS3 and SFV just fine.

>>383483798
>They're also around the same ipc

nigga pls

>>383489034
5% difference at most

>>383486349
except no, most games multiplats coming out are still better optimized on Nvidia. I can literally count on a single hand the amount of decent recent games that run better on AMD

Also, Vulkan is dead meme

>>383486907
1070 is better than 1080 for mining

>tfw laptop with i7 4860HQ and GTX 980M since 2014

I'm comfortably waiting for Volta late 2017/early 2018 to buy a new portable monster, almost got one with i7 6820HQ and GTX 1070, but since I'm still playing 1080p60fps ultra/high comfy, no urge to upgrade yet

>>383489020
Nier is just unoptimized port

>>383486770
PC games run like shit on AMD, especially at launch.

>>383478173
tfw you got your card 1 week before the boom

>>383489813
ran*

AMD Fine Wine Technology™ and gaining control of the console market has fixed this.

>>383477825
Why the fuck you you spend more on a console than a pc gpu? The ps4 would only be used for the couple of exclusives and the pc will be used for everything else.

Unless you're retarded enough to buy all your games on a shitty 20fps box.

>>383489929
no it hasn't

>>383482269
>buffy game
the fuck

>>383489929
in your dreams maybe

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>>383477361
Spend a few bucks more on a 7970/280x and you can play games at 1080p/60fps on high

>6 year old card
>still performs this well

How did they do it?

>>383490087 >>383490179

Benchmarks demonstrate otherwise.

>>383484094
download more ram m8

>>383488556
Nice bottleneck.

>>383490212
wonder what benchs you check, cause as a matter of fact many triple A games still run like shit on AMD

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>>383477825
>NBA 2K14
>NBA 2K15
>NBA 2K16
Why'd you buy the same game 3 times?

>>383490279
>many triple A games still run like shit on AMD

Particularly ancient games no one plays anymore, which were heavily optimized for Intel corelets and Nvidia housefires.

>>383490279
list several triple a games normie
> i fucking swear you better not shill and say assassins creed

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>6850k at 4ghz
>1080 bumped an extra 180mhz
>420mm rad and custom EK loop
>32g ddr4 corsair
>512g m.2 samsugn 950pro
>6tb/5tb hdds

A play so few games now, mainly modded minecraft and and some Vive bullshit. I'd rather just watch everything on youtube or twitch. I just buy this stuff ever 3 years to support the industry and help get humanity to the technological singularity faster.

>>383489813
It's because retards don't understand that optimizations on console don't translate to pc like that. You can have the most optimized console game ever but on the pc there are many other factors which break optimization such as driver/os overhead. Amds drivers are factually inferior to Nvidias across a whole range of hardware. Maybe if you're running a 7700k at 5ghz paired with a rx 580 you'll get good performance as there is very little the driver overhead can bottleneck here. DF have already done testing with a rx480/gtx1060 on a Pentium and the amd cards drop performance like mad because of that driver overhead. Amd is worse for lower end systems, fact (despite people saying they're good for low end budget systems).

Fun fact: running basic hardware monitoring overlays like even rivatuner statistics server can cause you to lose like 5% of fps on amd gpu because of driver issues. (Source: adoredtv)

>>383490318
Going by the rest of the boxes hes a pleb that buys used games from Gamestop. Therefore, he paid two dollars for all three of them.

>>383479008
1050ti shits on 750ti at least 2x performance. Faggot told you to go 1060 can die. Might as well go rx480 or rx580 IF you get a new one without being used as whored mining card.

>>383490279
Reminder that Nvidia launch day drivers use dirty tricks like not rendering shadows correctly in order to increase fps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC2ZlLoo14w

>mfw wanted to build a £600 PC this friday
>was originally thinking of getting a Ryzen 5 1500x and RX 470/570
>cards are either out of stock or overpriced to hell and back
what the fuck do I do lads? should I just buy a PS4 Pro?

>>383489789
Lame

>>383490184
By requiring a nuclear reactor power supply.

>>383490730
Both amd and Nvidia lost performance with the 1.02 patch because both had shader problems. Nvidia had no control over any of the shadows and shaders in the first place as is evident with the fix patch. This was just a launch bug which is fixed now and Nvidia gpu still run better than amd ones anyway. Digital foundry tested the patch in a video.

>>383490798
1500x is dogshit. Don't buy anything less than the 1600. Just get a 1600 now and then keep saving for like a month or two till the mining craze dies down and get a 1070 or something.

>>383490798
ebay

>>383480290
Joke's on you most ps2 games are 30fps

>>383479273
Simple, illegal money movements. You don't want the all seeing eye monitor your money transfer for the 20 metric kt of cola or you getting taxed by gommunist brother while you cash out your country.
Dumb fucks just joined in won't get shit because the're too late to the game. If they buy low sell high might as well do real stock markets. The current ongoing for gpu is eth and the other ones uses gpu powah. Buttcoin is still viable actually but you need specific purpose asic miners and it's not cheap, but again it's validity is till around 2+ years till you hit a steeper wall to climb. The you have the smart fucks trying to rope dumb fucks in to mine eth so you drive the price sky high, kek. But it won't do shit because the chinese wants something more "time tested" crypto to cash out now, not later because the gommunist gov is trying to lock down crypto shit since their loving people is trying to git the fuck outta gommunist land.

LOL

My two year old GTX950 is better than the 1030

Funny guy

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>>383483462

>>383491465
Well GTX 950 is supposed to be the GTX 1050 so its not that rare.
GTX 1050Ti is supposed to be GTX 960 but better.

>>383491341
tf is mining

>>383482067
>medium
not him but I have a 970 and a i74790k@ 4.4 and I can max every game at 1080p and get 60-120 frames. only thing that may cause fps to dip below 60 is hairworks.

I doubt ultra @ 1440p, but his computer will easily get high/very high @ 60

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>>383478207
>tfw I bought the 1060 a day before the price hike

I have a 750ti and a crt monitor.I still play all games.I'm not a "grafeex" retard

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>>383477361
>low

>>383491953
>bought 1060

well the joke's still on you

>>383492027
Dude crt is shit for your eyes when it's close like with the pc.

>>383491189
Nice meme

>>383492189
Ok.

>>383492189
>crt is shit for your eyes
Nice meme retard

The people saying wait for the mining craze to die down realize that the damage is already done, right? The current market is fucked and won't recover until a new generation of cards are out.