Name a more atmospheric game than Tiberian Sun.

>>383474006
Dead Space

>>383474006
Are there other games that achieve this kind of gloomy, post apocalyptic feeling?

>>383474114
This

Are you serious?
Tiberian Sun had pretty in-game graphics sure.

But as all C'n'C games the actual game world was hillariously stupid.
I'm not going to even bother with listing more atmospheric games: I'm just going to limit myself to RTS:
>Homeworld
>Original War
>Starcraft
>Earth 2100 series
>Stronghold

Now don't get me wrong: Tiberian Sun is a great RTS. Arguably better in gameplay and visuals than many of the above mentioned. But god the atmosphere was silly and awful.

>>383474129
You mean like ANY games?
So:
STALKER?
Metro?
Fallout 1/2 arugably New Vegas?

>>383474310
>Fallout 2
>Gloomy

>>383474310
>Fallout 1/2
kek

>>383474450
>>383474559
It is. It has a lot of dark humor, but it has plenty of pretty damn dark undertones. Actually play the game. Don't just parrot the things that you heard other people around this board say. Seriously, it's pretty damn good. I know the 2D environment completely terrifies you, and it will take a good while to learn how to use a mouse and keyboard, but I promise, it worth trying.

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>Start mission
>Valves begins playing

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>>383474559
I guarantee you've never played 1.

Freespace 2

>>383474809
mah nigga

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Anyone here kinda like ultra gloomy settings? Like "Oh shit, everything's FUCKED." Kinda gloomy. Makes me wish that Valve had gone with their original vision of Half-life 2. Where the whole is basically fucked five ways to Sunday and has left humanity in a utterly hopeless situation.
I just kinda like them for it's dreariness and how humanity copes in such a situation.

>>383474006
Tiberian Dawn :^)


>>383474310
>Earth 2100 series

Good taste Anon

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>>383474762
>Start mission
>Killing Machine starts playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNyfcZgzUH8

>>383474006
Why didn't CnC3 get even this right?

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>>383474762
>Not Pharotek or Nod Crush

>>383474657
I couldn't remember all those damn dark undertones behind """aliens""", talking deathclaws, scientology parody, mafia shenanigans and a literal fucking ghost.

>>383475035
>>383474762
Good taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-PgkEg0VOs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxfVsPEc_YE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i9t2rbTf-g

>>383475115
So you don't remember Enclave slaughtering children in front of your eyes. Or the utter fucking contempt and dangerous attitude of Vault City towards it's neighbours? You don't remember the tragic stories of that mining town? Politics about city-states using drugs to slowly take control over weaker societies?

>>383474762
>>383475107
>>383475125
>>383475194
Tib Sun's OSTs are legit some of Frank Klepacki's best works.

>>383474804
This isn't Fallout. Where are all the houses made of rusted paneling?

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>TFW Tiberian Earth n GDI is fucked ignore 4
>Most of the world is one big red zone
>Tiberium adapted to GDI sonic weaponry
>Only NOD and Forgotten can adapt

How can GDI even compete?
Fuck off to space?

>>383474867
I think the Owellian distopia inspired by East European socialism easthetic was far, FAR more interesting as a theme and as artistic direction. We might lament a lot of features that HL2 has lost, but I think the increased focus and more importantly the actually gorgeous art direction and settings were a MASSIVE step forward.

Ultra-gloomy is usually really fucking boring in the long run. It's when you have contrast between beauty and destruction, and when you have a center of reality on which your destruction is based that makes the destruction actually shine through. Something that consistently reminds you of what you lost, something that reminds you that how small you are... That is why Fallout never went overboard with the destruction aesthetics (except for 3), why Bradbury's stories like "Chicago Chasm" or "The Rock Cried Out" are some of the most powerful post-apocalyptic stories you can find, why Stalker's Zone is so much more impressive than Metro's surfaces.

>>383475275
no he only remember funny stuff oonga boonga

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>>383474006
why did EA have to kill it

its not fair bros

>>383475275
And all that is overshadowed by pop culture references and general silly tone overload. Fallout 2 is not consistent while Fallout is very coherent all the way through.
BoS literally sends you on a suicide mission and even when you become a paladin they have to be almost pressured to help the people in the first game, they're super secret protector club in the sequel.
Deathclaws are legendary creatures whom nobody survived the meeting with in the first game, you have a fucking deathclaw party member in the sequel.
Ghouls are jaded assholes who treat every single outsider with contempt in the first game, they're reduced to being exploited for electricity in the sequel.
The whole of San Francisco is a meme, the whole of New Reno is a meme, those stupid fucking visions from the pothead shaman are memes, Myron is a meme, getting raped by a super mutant is a meme, sentient radscorpion and a talking plant is a meme.

I enjoy TS but I LOVE Ra2 and YR

>>383475719
Mein neger
RA2 and YR are fun to play

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will they ever reboot CnC without EA?

I recall there was this huge project in ~2009 about making a tiberian sun more true to the original concept, with better graphics, more units etc fanmade but it never went through

>>383475615

You got a really good point there. I can't find the source for it but a good reason for valve going in the direction they did mostly boiled down to "Wanting the player to fight to save a dying world rather than a dead one" Which I can understand.

>>383475608
Sonic weaponry is pretty good against Tiberium though
Also Earth has a giant ass space portal conveniently constructed by Scrin. If Nod can manage to open it in the CnC4 then GDI will manage to do it too sooner or later. If we continue to ignore 4, there's still tons of tech left by the Scrin which GDI can use.

>>383474006
Metro 2033
NOT the Redux
Also >>383474114

>>383475487
Some of those tracks aren't from Frank

>>383475686
Stop using words that don't mean anything, you retard.

>>383475945
Actually, I've heard that a key element of changing the tone at was Viktor Antonov's visit of his homeland and a trip across Eastern Europe somewhere I think around 2000's with his brother. His visits to Sofia and Prague in particular have supposedly birthed the idea of using the East-Europan-Block desolation as a source of inspiration, rather than focusing on more America-centeric design and aesthetics. It was then that the idea of the world being fucked in more subtle ways inspired by the actual reality of oppressive regime-affected countries, rather than doing what was actually much more of a Mad Max idea of a world, might be worth exploring.

I always hated how they introduced the Scin as the third faction

It was much more interesting when Tiberium was just a plant, that cannot be explained and was slowly infecting the world because GDI and Nod were too busy fighting each other.

>>383476774
Wasn't it a crystalline formation from a meteor that impacted earth and then by radiation and mutation corrupted the wildlife?

>used to love TS
>loved Kane and Joe Kucan
>wanted a Nod tattoo as a kid
>C&C4 happened

Now I'm just jaded and gave up on investment in a vidya franchise.

>>383476371
Wasn't aware of that. Which ones?

>>383476651
Scrin was even in the original tiberian sun, just not as a faction, there were hints. Theres even that mission where you have to defend a crashsite scrinship.

EA just handled the scrin badly.

>>383474006
new vegas

>>383477764
I think you misquoted the post...

>>383474006
modern rts games gave me a newfound appreciation for tiberian sun

its still a pretty flawed game but at least it actually gave a shit about establishing a setting

>>383477991
While I would wholeheartedly agree that TA is a superior RTS game mechanically, c&c games have always oozed atmosphere and have a richer (if farfetched) story and world.

TA to me just felt like good robots fighting a bigger army of evil robots.

>>383476774
>>383477764
misquoted

>>383477764
That's a Nod ship based on ayy tech

man does anyone remember an RTS game where your base builder is some kind of robot and it's set on like a junkyard planet or some shit? I can only remember my older bro playing it around 2000 or something.

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>>383474310

>>383477764

>EA just handled the scrin badly.

Eh, C&C3 was alright, it just didn't nail the atmosphere as well as TS did.

For all the trash that EA gets they only truly fucked up with one C&C game.

>>383475571
fallout is post-post apocalypse, it is bethesdas version that gets everything wrong.

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>>383478580
only things that come to mind are M.A.X and Total Annihilation

>>383478629
C&C3 and to a greater extent Kanes Wrath nailed the atmosphere harder than Tib Sun did because it stayed truer to Tib Dawn than the former. If you ask me Tib Sun is the odd man out in the franchise (twilight excluded)

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>>383478895

Yes, thank you for posting the one game I referred to.

>>383478962
i dont know why i did it but
fuck do i hate that game