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Is Windows 10 worth installing over Windows 7? Did you notice any dramatic difference in performance (gaming)?
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>>383462428
>Is Windows 10 worth installing over Windows 7?
No.
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Windows 10 is malware.
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games do run better, yes.
people will have to switch eventually anyway since both AMD and Intel are dropping support for W7.
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>>383462428
Not going to 10 until Steam minimal requirements requires windows 10 in order to run. And by then I'll be on a GPU passthrough build.
Hurry up Zen+
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>>383462428
>Did you notice any dramatic difference in performance (gaming)?

nope. its just an OS.
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>>383462428
When the Halo franchise gets ported to PC, it's going to be a Windows 10 exclusive. That was enough incentive for me.
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Learn how dual booting works and use Windows 10 to play DX12 exclusive games while keeping 7 or Linux around for general use.
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>>383462717
that can make a large difference though.
for examlple WDDM 2.0 makes W10 run newer games like GTAV better.
But because of an oversight DX9 games run worse in W10 if they use more than 4GB of ram collectively.
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>>383462506
this
browser literally turned into an emulated Trojan once
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>>383462598
>games do run better, yes
total meme
Creators Update breaks many older games. Some newer ones even require compatibility mode to run.
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>>383463109
I didn't say anything about creator's update.
Game mode was a placebo but the actual launch version of W10 has gaming improvements over 7 and 8.1 while also having gaming limitations.
see >>383462896
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>>383462428
>dramatic difference in performance
Some game arguably run better, but nothing dramatic.
Win10 also offer DX12 although only few games that using it, while bunch of games still use DX9 and DX11 nowadays, for compatibility reason.
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>>383462428
install it if you have a new vid card otherwise dont.
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Don't fall for the winblows meme. I have it, and it's barely functional as an OS. I had to jump through hoops to disable half the crap, I had to edit the registry to stop automatic updates, I had to cherrypick updates I already had to keep only the vital security ones, and every night at 3 AM windows compat telemetry tries taking up my disk usage and memory.

Take it from me, invest into a cracked OS on /g/. Find a torrent you trust. DX12 compat is not worth it, trust me.
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>>383463467
>cracked OS on /g/
wat
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Running Windows 10. So far no problems.
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>>383462428
Hell no.
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>>383463537
they'll usually link you to a good win7 or Win8 OS with the security essentials installed. Worst case scenario you can browse on /t/ for a torrent, go to /r/ and request a torrent, or check out the /g/ wiki.
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>>383463467
>every night at 3 AM windows compat telemetry tries taking up my disk usage and memory.
Turn that shit off in task scheduler and services.
Please tell me you didn't install windows 10 home.
And you don't torrent an OS unless its win7, you download the iso from microsoft and grab an activator from MDL.
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>>383463467
spybot anti-beacon is a pretty good all-in-one disabler that was recommended by an ex-microsoft employee who knows about the shit they were doing while he was employed there.
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>>383463664
I was doing a budget build and I didn't think enterprise would be much different.
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>>383463662
if you're doing that you may as well torrent the enterprise version of W10, it's the same thing but with DX12 and new hardware compatibility.

The only reason to consider 7 is if you're trying to stay legit really. Because for your average chucklefuck it's just a question of whether to upgrade to W10 home or Pro from 7.
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>>383462896
>large difference
>one game
>literally negligible on majority of games
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>>383462428
main 2 problems are:
1) waste of resources running all the spyware processes. Can't disable/block them all as they get updated automatically
2) Microsoft will forcibly install updates, reboot in the middle of playing and reset options back to what they want. It's more like they control the PC and let you use it if they feel like it

other than that, it's the same as win 7
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>>383463771
>I was doing a budget build and I didn't think enterprise would be much different.
What the fuck are you doing that you're fucking up on an enterprise build? It has all the tools necessary to de-bugger the anus of windows 10. You have complete access to Group Policy, Services, administrator tools, I could go on and on.
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>>383463782
I don't really trust benchmarks where they take photos of their screens but I did say it's give and take.
I couldn't stay on 7 because of Ryzen.
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>>383463879
>I couldn't stay on 7 because of Ryzen.
MOM SAYS I CAN POST THIS IMAGE AGAIN
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>>383462428
>dramatic difference in performance
Yeah, your network bandwidth going to Microsoft's telemetry servers.
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>>383463109
Windows 10 does some shit with memory management that boosts performance in some games for some people. He obviously wasn't talking about creators specifically as the entire context of the discussion is W10 in general compared to W7. Anyway none of this matters people should just use whatever they want, if people want to be part of the botnet let them.
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>>383463843
You're saying that Microsoft would willingly allow you control of administrator tools, services and group policy. I mean come on, these are the same people who said windows updates would always be optional. I'm just waiting for that one update that enterprise users get that will say "oops sorry you can;'t do this anymore."
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>>383463925
hows the performance?
my Ryzen build had stability issues until the creators update so I was convinced I'd need to stay on W10.
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>>383462428
Just like /v/ on PUBG (GOTY), you should ignore /g/ on w10
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>>383462428
I've gotten enormous improvements from DX12, but you could probably get away with using vulkan

also just pirate 10 pro and neuter all the bad shit with gpo and make yourself smarter than the rest of the tards on this board
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>>383463879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgBCPrS2kvw

lad. just google 7 v 10 benchmarks. this is just the more recent one on the search. everything else is from 2015. even pcgamer agrees the negligible difference between OS.
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>>383462880
>Want to play some. Boot in 10.
>Decide to take a ten minute break to browse the internet.
>Have to restart and boot into 7.
Yea, seems really convenient.
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>>383462506
You don't have a choice in this matter anymore since MS includes the software updates in fresh Win 7 installs too along with most stores selling w10 pre-installed on hardware. That said I still prefer Win7 for the ability to turn some of the resource wasting background applications off along with selecting which auto-updates to install or block. W10 takes that user control away.
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>>383463960
>"oops sorry you can;'t do this anymore."
they'd never do that to enterprise customers.
Businesses make up the overwhelming majority of Microsoft's OS sales.
They know most people pirate, that's why they game pirates the opportunity to upgrade with 10.
License sales are how MS makes money from businesses but with home users they bank off your data, app store sales, Office 365 subscriptions, etc.

If they ever fucked up the IT for a large corporation there would be hell to pay, but fucking with some faggot gamers doesn't bother them a bit.
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>>383463957
Using vanilla W10 is like using Vanilla 7. You're just begging to get fucked in the ass by all manners of exploits.
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>>383463109
>He has to replay his thirty year old text adventure for the tenth time.
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>>383464173
I think you mean
>Using any Windows is begging to get fucked in the ass by all manners of exploits.
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>>383463109
Tell me 5 games that are broken in 10 that weren't in 8.1
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>>383463936
This telemetry uses my hdd sometimes up to 40%. Really annoying as it slows the system down considerably. I have to end the task from the task manager every time I notice it.
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>>383463960
>You're saying that Microsoft would willingly allow you control of administrator tools, services and group policy.
They do. They even have sys admin manuals on how to harden Windows properly. A low level MS engineer posted those manuals back when 10 came out in a thread on /g/.
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Windows 10 is faster overall, it requires less ram to run and uses less disk space, this is a fact.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/faster-booting-smaller-footprint-make-windows-10-an-easy-upgrade-for-old-pcs/
>>383464352
>2017
>HDD
>Not SSD
Opinion Discarded, you're probably not closing any telemetry service but other cache/update/defragging one.
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>>383463992
It's not my speccy, but for those who are too retarded to assemble a computer it is not something they should try doing.
You need the AMD chipset driver for windows 7 off their website.
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>>383462880
you're speaking to gamers, not computer scientists
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>>383464489
>faster booting

wow. such a OS seller. literally can't wait to boot up win10 in 10 seconds than 12 seconds on windows 7.
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>>383462428
Upgraded to Windows 10. All my pirated games work fine, all my legally purchased games from the last decade work fine. Turned off the pseduo-keylogger and minimized the Cortana shit to the point of not existing.

No massive changes from W7 if you are not digging around looking for the muck or a tinfoil hat wearer.
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>>383464570
A 12 year old could easily dual boot.
Real men GPU passthrough.
Even niggers.
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>>383464579
Why are you pretending to be retarded? Why are you pretending that the only benefit from an SSD is faster load os?
Windows is accessing thousand of files at every minute and everything from web browsing to updates run faster, you cannot say windows 7 boot in 12 seconds with a straight face.
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>>383464579
>not cold booting to desktop in 5 seconds on windows 7 on an SSD
you must have installed too many 3rd party drivers + USB initialization + storage drive fuckery, where any storage over 2TB lengthens the boot time and may even cause windows 7 to freeze at the animation splash
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>>383464709
>you cannot say windows 7 boot in 12 seconds *on a HDD with a straight face.
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>>383464542
I already had the latest chipset driver, I'm telling you creators update improved my performance and stability but only on my ryzen machine.
This is far from the first PC I've built.
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>>383464837
So you're saying windows 10 is no good for older computers?
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>>383464894
I'm saying I was sure that the creator's update included compatibility fixes for ryzen CPUs outside of what the BIOS updates and the chipset updates offered but I have acknowledged I could be wrong.
This is just my anecdotal experience.
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>>383464967
I know what you're talking about and there is hard evidence for that, windows 8.1 had way better thread dispatcher for multi core games, windows 7 can't do multi thread task properly anymore, and windows 10 had improved this even further after microsoft patching better ryzen cores support.
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I refuse to use windows 10 because an OS that actively tries to restrict your ability to administer it, that basically requires you to fuck around in registry or download software to make administrating easier, is not an OS i want on my machine.
>>383464619
this is the best of all worlds.
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>>383463467
You wouldn't happen to know anything about cracking an already installed OS, would you? apparently the activation shit only works with certain windows builds and I got Ultimate instead of Enterprise, and re-installing an OS is a fucking pain.
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I have dual boot with Win 7 and 10, 7 is for most games, 10 is only for windows 10 exclusives
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>>383465552
Here you go.
http://www34.zippyshare.com/v/4E8J4LOX/file.html
Windows loader.
You need the OS to be MBR and not GPT however.
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>>383465972
Yeah, mine is GPT, that's the biggest problem here.
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all the kikeware is included in windows 7 updates now anyway so you might as well swallow the jewcum and submit to 10 and dualboot with linux
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>>383463831
>reboot in the middle of playing

anon you know that this isnt true
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>>383466090
No, because you can remove it on w7. You can't on windows 10. That's the difference.
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>>383462428
It's shit, but so is 7 and 8 etc. Your options are to upgrade to Windows 10 or use Linux with Windows VMs for Windows applications. Staying on 7 is only an option if you want to get raped by malware.
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>>383466052
You have no choice but to reformat the SSD/HDD to MBR for Ultimate. It's really annoying.
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>>383466314
What a fucking pain. I'm not tech wizard but when I looked into it I remember reading that GPT is supposed to be better for larger/SSD drives, and i'm running of a 1TB SSD. It defaulted to that type of partition so I thought it was true. Guess I'll have to switch over though.
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>>383462428
Windows 10 is the best version of Windows because it gets constantly updated so you will be protected against many of the latest exploits out in the wild.
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>>383462428
DON'T DO IT
TRASH BOOT TIMES
BOTNET
A LOT OF GAMES BROKEN (OLD ONES IN PARTICULAR)
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>>383466447
MBR is good for anything below 2TB. Over 2TB and you have to go GPT because of MBR limitations. I have my 4TB drive on GPT via disk management as an example while my OS drive is on MBR.
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>>383462428
its a fucking botnet, they are stealing your rare pepes!
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>>383466267
>Install malware or install built in malware

lol
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>>383466570
some people use their computers for more than shitposting. And even if that's not the case, they have no right to mine my hard drive and personal files.
>but you agree to it when you install the OS
yes, and that's why I refuse to install the OS.
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late to the party:

It doesn't matter, EXCEPT

Some games were programmed by retards and full sail students, so they only work on Windows 7, not 8, 8.1, or 10. Check your library before you commit..

Also, yadda yadda yadda, UWP and compliance with windows store, bla bla bla
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>>383464489
Let's pay 300 euros to store my waifu simulators in.
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>>383466587
At least one won't hold your data ransom.
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>>383464619
GPU passthrough on the fly couldn't come soon enough.
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Can't play Forza Horizon 3 without Win10, so yeah, it's very worth it.
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>>383467416
>using an OS for one game
It's as dumb an excuse as buying a console for one game.
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Of course. It has better resource management, directx 12 and xbone library, is interface is customizable as always and spyware is a tinfoil meme.
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>>383462428
Windows 10 is the best version of Windows yet

Not only does it feature smexy new toolsets and features, but awesome new SSD compatibilities to help your games run at tip top speeds. Can you say "faster load times plz"?

Don't worry about skipping Windows 8 though, because Windows 10 has all the best features of Windows 8

Take the new customizable start menu, including the sweet Start screen from Windows 8. Plus free support for OneDrive and Live Mail, so no more remembering passwords for third-party sites. Oh yeah, and free easy lightning-fast updates, so no more viruses or malware.

I'm just a guy that likes cool tech, and Windows 10 is one cool piece of tech
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>>383464087
Why would you bother to switch if youre continuing in ten minutes? This ignoring the fact that if you dont suck at computers it takes fifteen seconds to switch, a very small price for freedom.
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>>383467724
>>383467801
thanks for clearing that up Pajeet! I'll be sure to buy a copy of Windows(tm) 10(c) Enterprise Edition(tm) today!
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>>383467863
You know it's free, right?
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>>383465972
>>383466314
Wait a second since when? I've been running W7U for six weeks after activating with the DAZ loader.
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>>383462428
No, anyone who recommends you to install 10 over 7 is saying it out of regret and jealousy. Even all these years later games still have issues with 10.
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>>383468153
and forgot pic
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>>383468103
Minus any disability workarounds that users on older versions can use, I'm currently looking at a windows 10 for home license for $180 AUD. So no, it's not free. The pro version is $300 AUD.
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>>383468193
Activated? What did you do differently?
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>>383462428
Just install LTSB and never look back
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>>383467471
You do understand that people aren't smart. These are the kind of people that don't know better.
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>>383468458
I know they're not the brightest, doesn't mean we should leave them to make uninformed and irrational decisions.
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>>383468174
Even though I may have had issues with the OS itself back when I installed it 2 years ago, I have yet to find a game that have issues with Win10.
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im going to run win7 for as long as possible.

win10 is a step in the wrong direction.
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It is so unfortunate that Valve didn't keep the push for Linux up.
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where can i download latest win10 iso? i have a 1511 but theres no reason to install it if it will downloaded new version and replace it after forst startup
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>>383469517
Same here but I think I'll have to change soon. Not looking forward to using the new system.
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>>383469115
It shows you don't play many games and the only ones you have played are recently released mate.
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>>383469954
But what they did is waaay enough. An easy enough platform for games on linux.

Not to mention valve has recruited several people to work on the open source AMD graphic drivers for linux.
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>>383462428
>Is Windows 10 worth installing over Windows 7?
no

in fact i reinstalled win7 on my laptop from win10 and it runs so much smoother
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Gotta download or change a billion and a half things if you're not inclined to have Microsofts massive dick in your business.
Mostly just annoyed that it feels like I'm constantly fighting a battle. Aside from all that shit, I don't have a problem with it.
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>>383470760
that doesn't make much sense considering W10 has better memory management.
that's why in terms of gaming it's about the same as 7, they added a lot of bloat but made optimizations which makes them about even.

Your laptop may not have had proper W10 driver support or something.
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>>383462428
Moving to Windows 10 got rid of the hangs during the setup phase in Rainbow Six Siege for me.
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>>383464161
What did he mean by this thinking emoji
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>>383470760
Why would you lie about something so easily disproven?

Literally the only upside to W10 is the performance increase, but even then that's not enough reason to overlook W10s numerous flaws and upgrade.
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>>383466641
some people are plain retarded.

shitposting, gaming, making games, porn

the only reasons pc is where it is.

win10 is trying hard to destroy all of it.

it is once again a inferior os from MS.
MS thinks they can monopolise pc´s by forcing shit 10 on the people. But they are wrong as people have choices and MS fails and looses billions in revenue.

Thts what you get by being a snitch to the gov´s to mega corps. You serve me, keep that mind not the other way around.

Fuck off shit 10 shill. Death to Micro poo in the loo penis!
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>>383471228
why are you shilling for that inferior in all aspect OS? You have live experiences by users proving that it shit, so it is shit.
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The new gaming mode really helps with performance. It reduces the GPU memory consumption of the other programs so the game can use it. Also the same tool can record your games and it very light in resources too.

Overwall Windows 10 is great. There are some issues, but if you are half decent with computers you can solve it in a few minutes and it won't bother you later.

Also it looks better.

>>383470047
Use the official tool
https://www.microsoft.com/es-mx/software-download/windows10
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>>383462428
I used to think no. but now without all the multitasking tools i feel hindered when im back to using a 7 machine
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>>383471523
No worries freetard, next year will be the year of linux desktop for sure
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>>383471815
Funny, I've heard from sources that aren't MS approved outlets that the update you're referring to doesn't really do anything beneficial. Then again, you must know what you're talking about. If the smoking industry says smoking doesn't cause lung cancer, it must be true!
>>383471875
name some
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>>383462428
it's better than windows 7 in every way if you have nothing to hide
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>>383471815
I tried using Groove but it was just too bad.

Also I wish they let you set custom tiles like back in 8, then maybe I'd use the start menu.
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>>383471930
The same can be said for any conspiracy theory and tinfoil hat lunatics.
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>>383471984
Have you not used windows 10 im talking basic gui shit
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>>383472046
>I tried using Groove but it was just too bad.
I used Spotify but it doesn't have all the music I like. Groove doesn't have it either, but I can upload it to Onedrive, something that Spotify doesn't allow me to do.

And there is a tile customizer, I just don't remember the site. Look at XDA.
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>>383472067
ye it's a lot more convenient than windows 7
depends on the person though, some people hate it
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>>383472118
I store my music on my NAS, if I wanted to upload it to the cloud I could use any music player I wanted anyway.
Groove can't handle metadata for shit.

Tile customizers don't really work on 10, they rely on an application opening and then opening what you want before closing instead of being a shortcut in itself.
It's not the same.
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>>383471984
Newer != better
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>>383471930
I'm guessing he means the Virtual Desktops feature. I personally hate it. It is too cumbersome to use for me. I like how most Linux distros do it.
If he is referring to how tiling works in Windows 10 (and partiality 8/8.1 IIRC) now, it's one step forward and two steps back. Tiling to just the corners is nice, but the default showing of windows to tile next, and the theme for Windows 10 in general make it shit. At least with the former, you can turn that off without patches.
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>>383472217
Can't afford a nas, so this is my most comfy solution.
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W10 is definitely more efficient with resources than 7.
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>>383472290
>Virtual desktop
at least microsoft finally adds features other desktops have had for decades. People suddenly need all these things they had no idea they needed, and assume MS/W10 is the first to have these features. It's lazy of them to not even bother looking for QoL improvements.
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If there were any performance benefits, they've been literally negligible. I "upgraded" last night, and have noticed very little, if any, performance boosts.
Heck, I've been playing Borderland 1 again over the past 2 weeks, and I've noticed slightly worse (win7=110, win10=95) performance in it since "upgrading". Might clean install to see if it fixes it, but fugg.
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>>383472646
is BL1 DX9?

W10 has a weird limitation on shared RAM usage for DX9 games.
This makes modding old Skyrim a shitshow on 10.

They're apparently patching it though, the MS programmer who has responded to people about it has said it was an oversight, they didn't think DX9 games would use more than 4GB of system+video ram.
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>>383471903
the day driect x is done is the day Microsoft dies.

Valve is working hard on that one and the next engine they develop will be open GL or something better for sure, with follow up games by other devs making games like they did for source. End times poo in the loo soft!
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>>383471875
>>383472290
>virtual desktops
I'm doing ok on 7.
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I've been using it on a second PC, just for gayman, and have never had a problem.
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>>383472847
if you have to install shit to make your OS usable you're basically as bad as 10fags.
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>>383472820
>open GL
the new hotness is vulkan, with far wider support and less platform restrictions than Direct X.
>>383472847
But anon! That's impossible! windows 10 is the first desktop brought to you by Microsoft that introduces workflow improvements like virtual desktops! Buy a copy today!
:^)
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>>383472926
That's been true since win98 SE.
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>>383464070
Now look up the DX12 benchmarks you fucking idiot.
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>2017
>people are still considering whether to """upgrade""" from Win7 to Win10
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>>383472939
>Buy a copy today!
Too late goy, I already have several copies of 2015 and 2016 Enterprise 10 LTSB N and backed up on my home server.
You're not getting any shekels from me.
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>>383472976
now look at Vulkan benchmarks on 7 vs 10
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>>383473063
anon, if you saw my :^) you'd know that I was being sarcastic. I can't stand windows 10
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>>383473128
>vulkan
Now look at the RX480 benchmarks on 7 and 10
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>>383473183
>I can't stand windows 10
basically every windows past XP is garbage.
If I could run Vulkan, DX12 and all my modern games on XP I'd stay there.
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>>383462428
I'm afraid everyone will have to get it eventually.

It's much less stable than 7. File explorer crashes at random times. Start menu crashes from time to time. Clock doesn't update as it should after startup (online sync) and displays time -2h and requires manual sync.

Not to mention W10 is rolling release. Once a year there's new build that fucks up even more stuff. Last time it borked my nVidia drivers. After each start-up, log-in, log-out or resolution change my screen was black and only turning off display and back on fixed the issue. I rolled back and installed new build one month later, same shit. They have eventually fixed it a few months later.

W10 feels like constant beta test while W7 was rock solid.
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>>383473283
Now look at 1080ti Vulkan benchmarks on 7 and 10
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>>383473325
it can also eject the iGPU
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>>383473339
>>383473283
>>383473128
>>383472976
do you guys think this will somehow go anywhere?
either post benchmarks or shut up
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>>383473325
The truly mind boggling part is that the W7 leaked beta builds were more solid than W10
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>he thinks he's safe on windows 7
>he thinks he's safe using google products
>he thinks he's safe connected to the internet
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Windows 10 is riding the fence on being a viable consumer platform, and being a paranoia inducing security burden on those that are rightly concerned with the developing surveillance state of the world.

No shit, within Trump trying to get voter records (to literally, illegally, find out who voted for him and who didn't), in the next 4 years the US may experience a sort of internet crisis with the government being able to use firmware backdoors to control who can and can't access the internet.

Aside from that, proprietary software is expensive, getting support only happens if there's revenue at stake, and in the end there still remain a lot of security+control problems. I was disappointed at the lack of user customization and control over the PC just going from WXP to W7, and the jump from W7 to W10 is even worse.

My advice: start learning how to setup a dual-boot partition with Linux, and start learning how to use Linux, because the climate of surveillance/IoT-infiltration in the world is doing wonderful things to drive support for open source EVERYTHING, and gaming will undoubtedly follow. For example, SteamOS is Linux based, and both the Switch and PS4 run on FreeBSD which is Unix based.
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>>383462428
yes and no, if you're ready to only play newer games pull the trigger. I have trouble with older direct x games so I kinda regret getting 10. Yeah sure there are 50 workarounds to get shit to work properly but if I wanted to do that shit I'd use linux.
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>>383473461
now go look in the mirror vs your ideal self
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>>383473535
Just as we speak, I clicked volume toggle which crashed shell. W10 is truly amazing.

This is almost clean install.
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>>383473680
it's made by poojeets who don't even know how the system builds anymore, expect nothing better to come from them.
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>>383473680
works on my machine
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...i like touch screen windows 10. it's so nice
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only if it's free
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>>383473772
Of course it doesn't happen all the time. Just randomly but never did on W7.
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I never had any problems with w10, everything works like it should
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>>383473849
never did on W10 for me, and I have a dedicated keypad to toggle volume which I use constantly

maybe you shouldn't have cheaped out on your motherboard
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>>383473873
Hey, Bill. Can I fuck your daughter?
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>>383473393
how? what? what the hell?
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>>383473914
In a fucking notebook. topkek
Same shit happens on my tower, however.

You must be lucky or simply not using your computer much.
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>>383474271
I use my computer for an unhealthy amount of time each day.
So much that I bought a programmable mechanical macro pad to do shit like volume control among other things.

It has never happened to me on this new build or my old build with completely different CPU, GPU and motherboard.

Intel+AMD, Intel+Nvidia, AMD+Nvidia, I have never had your problem on W10 with any of the PCs I've built.
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Hello /g/
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>W7 fags think they're any better than those that use W10
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>>383462428
I hate change.
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>>383474154
Hello /g/, how is that Linux shilling going on?
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>>383474486
Stallman interjection here.

Also, I am neither /g/ nor Linux
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>>383474442
/g/ at this point plays more gaymes than /v/
too many tech support threads
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>>383473616
dog bless annon, i will have to learn the cybers then. All of the cybers.
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>>383462880
>DX12 exclusive games
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>>383463831
They give you a notification saying it will Reboot at this hour, you can change the hour or just reboot in the moment
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Windows 7 is unsafe but compared to windows 10 its like fort knox mostly because ((microsoft)) decided to install lots of back doors into 10 like all other major companies recently.
Quite honestly the negatives outweigh the
positives in 10.
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>>383471815
>Filia
Nice.
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>>383474713
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
Forza Motorsport 6: Apex
Halo 5: Forge
Forza Horizon 3
Gears of War 4
Halo Wars 2

>>383474756
>Windows 7 is unsafe but compared to windows 10 its like fort knox
No it's not. Any retard with a brain know that w10 kis more secure than windows 7 since it's supported
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>>383462717
That's why I still game on windows 3.1
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>>383475008
None of those games are worth playing unless you're an xdrone.
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At first I was negative towards w10 and wasn't gonna update, but then my work laptop updated and I had no choice in it, and it turned out to be pretty good after all, so I updated my home pc too (illegal w7 to legal w10, woot?) and haven't looked back.

I have enterprise, which lets me defer updates. I think I would have gone crazy if I had been forced to reboot to update. That's one of few real grievances I have with it.
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>>383462428
>Did you notice any dramatic difference in performance (gaming)?
Yep.
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>>383475008
games that doesnt even interest me
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>>383462428
ive seen games that run worse with dx12

and doesnt it fuck with pirated software and delete it or some shit?

fucking denuvo literally makes games run worse, i didnt even believe it until i downloaded the hitman demo then pirated it, fucking pirated copy runs WAY smoother, its a god damn disgrace
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>>383475008
im not updating to microsofts fucking cancerous OS just to be able to give micfrosoft money for their cancerous dying rehashed franchises

fucking cuck faggots
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>>383472257
I find it hilarious how the moment you peek even the slightest bit past the shiny facade, the decades old patchwork of shitty, inconsistent design and workarounds rears its ugly head.
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>>383475008
>Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
>Forza Motorsport 6: Apex
>Halo 5: Forge
>Forza Horizon 3
>Gears of War 4
>Halo Wars 2
Wow! It's a gold mine of great games, that's for sure!
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>>383475417
kek
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>>383462428
Just pirate Enterprise LTSB. Or stick with your 10 old OS.

OR, and I know this is what's really going to happen because most are retarded, enjoy your win10 Home. Just as Microsoft knew would happen all along.
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>>383465552
Is that Windows 7? My Windows 8.1 started asking for an activation key after months so I downloaded KMSpico and it fixed the problem instantly
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>>383473680
Hey my volume slider crashed today too! I once got a blue screen from clicking on it, after my builtin speaker stopped being recognized in the sound options (despite it being in device manager as enabled and "working properly").
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>>383474713
oh boy cant wait for that call of Halo master chief duty black world war 5 edition only being buyabel from shity microbenis shop for micro benis redit gold!*


OMFG!!! SHUT UP AND TAKE MY PERSONAL INFORMATION CREDIT CARD INFO AND BENIS PICS NOW!°
*only half a of licence and its only playbel for 5 hours before license expires, to prlonge license you must sacrifice your fist born and rape you mother(dead or alive) and up-lode it to the Satan servers of microsft.
By accepting microshit 10 you revoke possession of your sole and your PC will do in back ground calculations for NSA and CIA and for who ever pays the microsshit the most money while still sending information thru your ISP for your cost alone even if it hits your monthly limit. You sign a blood contract that is transfer to your children. you cant step back from this contract ever.
T.Microsft
All you rare pepes belong to us.
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>>383462428
it has performance wise worked like 7, but ms keeps bloating it with updates and unnecessary shit
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>>383465552
KMSpico. You literally press a button and it activates the whole thing.
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>Extended support ends on January 14, 2020

You'll have to move on eventually, my tinfoil friends, otherwise enjoy your ransomware
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>>383475076
Well, if you looking for arcade or semicade game with bunch of licensed cars for PC, I can't think of anything better than both forza games.
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>>383475915
in gaben we trust, gaben will gaben to us!
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>>383475076
wow free bio metric data!

How about you upload just all of your pictures of your home too!
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>>383475915
"no"
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>>383475920
in other words shit I don't give a fuck about
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>>383476019
>not wanting the botnet to become a part of the family

https://gizmodo.com/google-home-breaks-up-domestic-dispute-by-calling-the-p-1796755905
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>>383475915
Common sense antivirus
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>>383475915
>enjoy your ransomware
Sounds like Windows 10.
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>>383476019
got more important things to worry about, like the gooey
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>>383475076
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>>383476145
combined with a router, stealthed ports, and an extremely intolerant group policy edit
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>>383476142
FUCKING SKYNET!
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>>383475437
Yeah and the next is coming
https://www.techpowerup.com/232880/microsoft-trademarks-direct-physics-havok-rebranded
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>>383475629
KMSPico is so fucking good it should be ILLEGAL.

Haven't payed for MS software in years. €200 MS office? Windows 7 8 10 Enterprise? KMSPico.
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>>383463782
>Tested on C2D
That sure is some relevant test.

>>383471815
Game mode helps a little, but only if you're running a retarded amount of background applications at the same time. If you don't there's virtually no difference.
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>>383476373
You need KMS malware to get W10 for free retard
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>>383476259
>extremely intolerant group policy edit
>intolerant
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>>383477075
>KMS
>malware
It essentially creates a fake server that tells your computer it's a legitimate installation.
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You will get better performance if you use an AMD card, because DX12 boosts the shit out of them.
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>>383477075
I'm running enterprise LTSB which you can't even BUY even if you wanted to.

KMSPico is safe if you get it from the source. It's been around since win98. Millions of people, including me, have been using it for years and years.
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>>383475915
I would rather get ransomware than windows 10
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>>383462428
Old "WINDOWS 10 . UGH FUCK NO" fag here. If you're not an idiot, upgrade, it won't bother you. If you are an idiot, stay on windows 7. Either way, if you're an idiot in general, MAC is the OS for you. There is too much room for mistakes in Windows, yet it's very popular among the normies.
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I'm still using Vista.

Fuck all yall
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>>383475819
Doesn't work with W7 Ultimate
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>>383477459
Could you link the source? When I first built my PC after installing KMS it came bundled with Remote Server malware that I couldn't get rid off but a system update saved me since it created windows.old folder with that shit in it.
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>>383462428
There is a reason they a) gave it away free and b) are so desperate to push it that they are putting games on it that are almost all failing due to being such a small platform.

If you can't figure out what that is, yes install it.
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>>383470709
Old games are for peasants that cant afford new things. How does it feel being to poor for windows 10 the ultimate os
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Don't fall for the "use windows 7" meme, W10 is pretty good actually.

That and its the only Windows OS that works with Ryzen
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>>383478614
I heard 7 can be patched to support newer CPUs
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Im lurking in these w10 threads from time to time and never saw any real argument/benefit for upgrading to w10, only "lol w7 get with the times grandpa"
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>>383478983
I've been lurking too and i saw real agurment/benefit for upgrading to win10
>Better power management (+ features like battery saver)
>MUCH better memory management
>New, better task manager
>Less HDD use (~5GB after fresh install and disabled hiberfile)
>More secure (WinRT sandbox)
>Better scaling
>Full control over comm devices, no need to install 3rd party trash to do simple things like enabling or disabling wwan networking
>DX12
>No need for external antivirus, literally best antivirus solution on the market
>Better support for eGPUs
>Much, much more.
>1. Fast and More secure : Windows 10 starts up 28% more quickly than Windows 7, resumes faster and comes with more security features than ever.
>Also better for gaming, better for upcoming drivers.
And yeah, Windows 7 is 8 years old its tired. Get fucked Grandpa
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>>383462717
>just an OS
You heard it here niggers. Go ahead and game on fagintosh OS.
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>>383479305
Macintosh is not a gaming OS
Better upgrade you GPU, CPU etc
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>>383466052
No go to the forum where DAZ loader is found, and download Microsoft Toolkit, you can crack your install that way.
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>>383479159
i had a feeling this is a PR pasta

also dx12 is the biggest meme ever. where is the 89454535% fps boost?
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>>383477826
>dazloader
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>>383480435
Doesn't work with GPT partition, follow the replies holy shit.
>>383480103
Looking into this now, thanks.
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>>383462428
No.
If you desperately want WIn 10 for whatever reason run it in virtual console or create a dual boot to keep Win 7.
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>doesn't know enough about computers to install an OS or activate it
>W-W-WINDOWS 10 IS A BOTNET
lmao fuck you retards, you don't deserve help
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>>383464161
>w10 pre-installed on hardware
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>>383476093
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>>383480712
No, windows 10 is shit because of the methods used to try to get it onto users computers and the amount of work computer owners need to go through just to be able to administrate it without restriction. If I do not want my computer to update, I should be able to turn off updates and leave them. The amount of shit W10 does without user permission, the amount of stuff one needs to do just to keep the system manageable, is absurd. Also, there is literally 0 reason why MS should have the right, or the ability, to scan your hard drive and personal files for any reason and have that data sent over a network in anyway. Botnet or not, W10 has far bigger and more concerning issues.
>just get the enterprise version
What, home users shouldn't be allowed to administer their systems as they see fit?
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I switched from OSX to Windows 10 by buying a gaming laptop for the play anywhere program. It's pretty good, best Windows by far.
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>>383481349
>I switched from playing playing world of warcraft to guild wars 2. Guild wars 2 is the best guild wars by far!
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>>383477474
why not both? Just get win 10 and all your needs are covered.
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Winq0 is worth for pirating Horizon 3 alone
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>>383472047
you wish
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>>383480408
>i had a feeling this is a PR pasta
Only the last one is a PR pasta. The rest is from /g/
You need to lurk more
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>>383481515
You can't pirate Horizon 3
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>>383481531
The fact that us, as people, are expected to bend over and take that shit from MS is sickening.
>>383481587
>/g/
>not having PR shills on it
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>lol I have nothing to hide!
Yea neither do I. Why is it so fucking hard to get it that I am not interested because it has worse performance and issues with older titles.
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>>383481682
So that's you answer to >>383478983
>and never saw any real argument/benefit for upgrading to w10, only "lol w7 get with the times grandpa"
? For now, you got absolutely BTFO by >>383479159
There is only Linux/Android shill in /g/
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>>383479159
>>No need for external antivirus, literally best antivirus solution on the market

Yeah, funny how things people dont use much dont get hacked much. And then retards jump on it for partly that reason and it changes. Like mac
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>>383479159
>>>1. Fast and More secure : Windows 10 starts up 28% more quickly than Windows 7, resumes faster and comes with more security features than ever.

what in the absolute fuck?

hello steve balmer

suck my dick retard
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>>383481757
New, better and much much more isnt anything really, since for example task manager is properly broken shit

i admit there is "full control over comm devices" ill give you that but most of it is PR shit compared that w10 acts like early access os
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>>383481757
sure anon BTFO like there is only JIDIF in /pol/
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>>383481757
Your english is fucking terrible, and it makes me wonder just how much you're paid by MS.
>>383479159
>power management
I don't use w10 on a laptop so battery saver is meaningless
>memory management
my base w7 install idles at like 700MB, i doubt w10 can get that low
>better task manager
ooh wow, fancy new graphics! must mean the OS is better
>less HDD use
fresh install w7 is probably the same amount. Give w10 a few years to catch up
>more secure
windows being 'secure' is like covering up a screen door on a submarine with duct tape.
>better scaling
i guess? i don't have the newest equipment to find out
>full control over comm devices
and no control over administering your own machine
>DX12
>falling for the DX12 meme
>no need for external anti-virus
microsof fucking handles their fonts and scrollbars at the kernel level. You really, REALLY, are going to trust them to ensure their anti-virus is going to catch everything? They're inept as developers at best.
>better support for egpus.
k
>much, much more
literally not an example of why it's better
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>>383481646
Yes you can pal. Google horizon 3 opusrelease
Only downside is the latest cracked version doesnt have patched that fixed cpu issues for game
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>>383472893

Same here.
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>>383462428
i'm just waiting for all those windows 10 exclusives
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I don't know why so many people are worried about privacy when 99% of the ISPs already collect your data.
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>>383482197
>4gb vram on a 1070

so close, yet so far away
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>>383482227
Different reasons
1) an ISP doing it doesn't make it okay for others to do it
2) an ISP collects data you send over the network, microsoft collects data you store on your hard drive
3) you can hide data from your ISP by using things like VPNs, HTTPS, etc. you cannot do so for MS which grabs data right from your hard drive.
I don't know why you're so willing to give up privacy as if not having it has any actual benefit for you.
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>>383462428
>Did you notice any dramatic difference in performance (gaming)?
Yes. Forza run better on Windows 10 senpai
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>>383462428
Yes, weird bugs in some old games in Steam just fixed themselves making the change to Windows 10
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>Have W8
>All of me 324 steam games work flawlessly
>Upgrade to W10, don't change any hardware
>Now I have a category of 48 games that outright don't work and there's no known solution
>About 20 which run admitelly worse
>1 or 2 that might be running better than before

SURE IT'S GREAT FOR VIDYA AMIRITE
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>>383482130
>Win7
Total control by the user
It runs.
Less fuckt up then w10

clear winner is win7.
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>>383482148
It's jut a shitty bypass, it's not a real crack so the performance patch isn't even included in it. It runs awfully, i have already tried it.

A bypass is not a crack.
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>>383482213
Every. Time. But what if I actually like playing video games and windows 10 only has good/better performance/support for the newest 60 dollarino (and dont forget the season pass!) AAA+++ cinematics. And even when the differences are small like 140fps on w7 and 130 on w10 its still 0 reason for me to care about w10.
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>>383482536
But you can play it right? I lucked out and I dont have performance issues, but it wouldnt be bad to get newer version.
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fuck

This post >>383482580 was meant for this post >>383482227
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>>383482334

That's just speccy being retarded.
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still can't run sim city 3000 though
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>>383468293
Naw I will just wait for ReactOS to get DX support.
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>>383462428
Updates keep failing on my old Win8 Laptop so I want Win10 on it because some games aren't working anymore because of failed updates.

Windows Insider program gives Win10 for free, Right?

Anyone have experience with Insider Program?
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>>383482650
are you sure?
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>>383462970
Excuse me but could you explain this to me?
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>>383482647
Yes it's playable
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I hate the Windows store, why does Forza Horizon 3 still costs 300 bucks?
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>>383462428
>Is Windows 10 worth installing over Windows 7?
No. It's a fucking phone app O.S. with NSA spyware pre-installed

win7 is objectively the best, most compatible M$ O.S.
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>>383483060
>with NSA spyware pre-installed

You're not as important as you think you are.
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>>383483141
neither is having Windows 10 over 7
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>>383464087
Takes literally 10-20 seconds to restart if you have an SSD supporting both operating systems.

More than likely your situation would be the opposite where W7 would be your main OS and then you would rarely use W10 for DX12 exclusive games.
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>>383464161

>Format>Put in Win7 disk>Install without internet connection>disable Update service>go online

How exactly is MS gonna force 10 on you when going this way?
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>>383462428
You will have the color glitch in StarCraft 1 if you play on Windows 7 (unless you stop explorer.exe) but haven't seen the problem in Windows 10. Haven't checked if it has been corrected in 7 though.
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>>383478021
KMSPico and all the windows ISO leaks can be found on

>https://forums.mydigitallife.net/forums/windows-10.54/

>https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/pauls-x-files.57077/

>https://forums.mydigitallife.net/forums/kms-tools.51/


When life gives you lemons steal oranges. There are people out there dedicating their lives to stealing propetary software.
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>>383484387
Through the RFID module built into your modern processor.
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>>383484387
Windows 7's EOL date is a mere 2.5 years away.
They've already blocked it from getting updates for supporting new hardware.
Not to mention it not having support for the new DX and UWP executable format they're trying to push all devs to use for Xbox compatibility.

Like it or not in the long run the only options are bend over for Windows 10, or switch to GNU/Linux and help build a future without Microsoft's abuses.
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>>383485181

>implying I don't have Linux as my main system already and just visit my Win7 system occasionally
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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