Anyway... that's how I lost my medical license

>>383439871
Would Valve even be capable of making those kinds of videos anymore?

>>383439942
From what I've heard the comics are still good, so maybe.

>>383439871
>Anyway... that's how i lost most of my playerbase

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>meet the medic is six fucking years old
>the hype for its release is older than that
Fucking hell.

>>383439990
Comics aren't made by the same people.

Kill me.

>>383439990
lol all the writers left. Comics are dead.

>>383442363
Later.

I never played tf2 but the meet videos are fun

DO YOU BELIEVE IN MAGIC

>>383443009
That isn't true, there's still multiple writers left. Two in the TF Team and many more at Valve as a whole.

Also Jay Pinkerton said on his Twitter that the comics' story is done and they're just waiting on the art to release the final episode. Even though he's left Valve, he also finished the job he set out to do. Check his Twitter if you don't believe me.

>>383445193
Good, we can finally lay TF2 to rest with the conclusion of the comics. It was one hell of a ride. Shame that nothing can really recapture its magic (including itself).

>>383439871
What do you think Heavy's guts feel like haha I just kinda want to hold them just for laughs though haha

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Objective meet the tier list

>god tier
Scout
Soldier

>great tier
Sniper
Medic
Spy

>decent tier
Engineer
Heavy
Demo
Sandvich

>shit tier
Pyro

I hope valve makes more games. Other than CS:GO all of their games have such magical characters.

>>383445432
>Good, we can finally lay TF2 to rest with the conclusion of the comics
Nah, going by current trends TF2 will probably still be sizeably populated for another five years or so, if not more.

I know you may not like some of the choices the devs have made but the game is still one of the most fun things on the market, way better than most multiplayer games out there.

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>>383445797
Hear hear, hats haven't done shit to change a fundamentally good game.

I loved the interview format of the first few but Meet the Medic and Meet the Spy are great on their own.

And damn, imagine if you could throw sappers like in Meet the spy.

>>383445760
This is objectively right.

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>>383447929

>>383439871
Pyro video is better

>>383445948
>game is such an elderitch abomination of mismatched code because the game was never supposed to support custom weapons, custom hats, trading, drops, so on so fourth
>literally have to downgrade the games graphics because of it, despite being 10 years old
>will never be ported to source 2 because the devs themselves even acknowledge how much of a godforsaken mess hats has made the code

>>383448229
Spaghetti code is nothing new in good vidya. SS13 is amazing and the code was likely the result of staring into the eldritch truth.

>>383448610
and? the argument here was it hasnt effect the fundamentals of the game, which it has. its fucked it so hard that despite many other source games being able to be moved to source, it cant. hats have literally held tf2 hostage to an outdated engine and thats why youll never see it actually improve and instead just get hats

hats

hats

hats

>>383448229
>>game is such an elderitch abomination of mismatched code
Doesn't mean it doesn't work. I haven't experienced any actual gamebreaking bugs in a long time.
>>literally have to downgrade the games graphics because of it, despite being 10 years old
They didn't "downgrade" the graphics, stop listening to /v/ memes.

When Valve changed the w/v_model system to the c_model system and upgraded from DX8 to DX9 some minor visual details broke, and didn't get fixed because most people didn't notice them, and Valve prefers to dedicate their time to stuff that people will notice.

If anything, those changes were a result of Valve UPGRADING the graphics.
>will never be ported to source 2 because the devs themselves even acknowledge how much of a godforsaken mess hats has made the code
Again, not being ported to Source 2 doesn't make TF2 stop being fun.

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>Replay tf2 recently
>Remember it's actually a Fun Video Game with no bullshit
>There will never be another game like it and Vale will never make a video game again

>>383448851
The fundamentals are still the exact same as release. Two teams, nine characters, few maps and modes.

>>383448229
Wouldn't it be completely pointless to port TF2 over to source 2 anyway?

What improvements would that yield?
Graphics would be pointless because of the art-style, there's barely any physics in the game anyway, I think the original source engine fits the game like a glove.

>>383448851
>REEEEEEEEEE HATS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
How does one word send you into such an autistic frenzy? TF2 is a fun game. Not being on Source 2 isn't making it any less fun.

Would you have complained in 2007, called it unfun, and refused to play TF2 because it wasn't on Source 2? Of course not.

>>383448876
>they didnt downgrade it
>it just looks worse
lol

>Again, not being ported to Source 2 doesn't make TF2 stop being fun.
right, whatever that has to do with the argument youve sidestepped, that being "hats hasnt fundamentally impacted the game" which it has, seeing HATS literally is why itll never be updated..and looks worse

>>383448851
> the argument here was it hasnt effect the fundamentals of the game, which it has. its fucked it so hard
What the fuck are you talking about? It still has the sam gameplay it did before, except with quality of life changes that made it better than it was on release.

>>hats

Oh, you're a retard and I wasted my time. Great.

>>383448979
for starters, source engine has a polygon limit per "instance". ever notice how its like you walk 50 feet and you need to load in half life 2? same thing applies to tf2. you cant have TOO much detail in any map or it just breaks, which wouldnt be an issue if that limit was large.

>>383448876
>They didn't "downgrade" the graphic

Yes they did. They capped mat_picmip at -1, you used to be able to set -10 for much better textures. Then they got replaced a ton of v_models and w_models with low poly c_models (e.g. Demo's bottle is now a c_model which doesn't break on crit).

>>383449035
Like I said, retard, they're minor visual details. Literally nobody noticed or complained about anything but the Bottle until Crowbcat made a video. And it's not a fucking "downgrade", it's just a bug.

If you can't understand the difference between "an intentional downgrade for the purposes of hats" and "an accidental bug" it's not my fault you're retarded.
>that being "hats hasnt fundamentally impacted the game"
Yes, it hasn't fundamentally impacted the game whatsoever. It's still a fun game. Hats have not made the game any less fun than it was in 2007.
>HATS HATS HATS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>383449086
>focus on hats and not weapons
hats showed valve that weapons, and custom weapons were a boon, and bam, all the focus went on that instead of making the game fundamentally better. but ignore this, because eh too hard to dispute.

>>383449236
>its minor so its nothing
>games so fucked it cant even match itself from 5 years ago
>it hasnt fundamentally changed the game
lol

>>383449236
Are you retarded? Everyone knew about the bottle. Just Google "Demoman bottle" and look at the number of results of people asking why the bottle doesn't break anymore. It all predates the video you're talking about.

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>>383439871
>this many tf2 threads per day
/v/ is hyped for what may be this game's saving grace or final death sentence.

>>383449294
>>its minor so its nothing
If nobody actually notices without a side by side comparison shoving it down their throats then yes, it is nothing.
It has no tangible effect on the enjoyability of TF2 as a video game.

TF2 is still one of the most fun video games on the market today. Your autistic rant is pointless.

>>383449159
But I think the current amount of detail is just fine, much more and it would feel cluttered.

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>>383449319
Are YOU retarded? I said nobody complained about anything BUT the Bottle, you fucking retard. I want an apology right now.

>>383449391
>implying tf2 will ever die

That is not dead which can eternal lie

>>383449402
>if nobody actua-
lol they did
>have to stick within a 10 year old engines limitations just because hats fucked it so hard
lol

>>383449456
then forget detail, size. ever wondered why garrys mods large maps are so fucking simple? because you try to do anything bigger then a small warehouse it just crashes.

>>383447929
You dont believe in magic in a young girl heart?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I

>>383439871
>Hah! You call that breaking a spine?! You red team ladies wouldn't know how to break a spine if itOW MY SPINE!!!

So this was what the classes should theoretically be according to the Valve developer commentaries back in 2007:

Scout
>Fast offensive class that can help his team back pedal if need be
Soldier
>Good at all forms, but mastery of none
Pyro
>Flanking class and crowd controller
Demo man
>Quickly transitioning defensive/offensive power house
Heavy
>THE defensive class
Engineer
>Support and area denial
Sniper
>Long range pick off specialist
Spy
>Team dispersion and the person who gets pushes rolling
Medic
>Healing support class

But what are people's views on the classes?

>>383449557
so if we port tf2 to source 2 garrys mod will be better?

>>383449557
>lol
>lol
It's nice to know that you're completely out of arguments. Thank you for conceding the argument to me. Never post again.
>have to stick within a 10 year old engines limitations
Did TF2 being on Source in 2007 make it any less fun then? No. Ergo, TF2 being on Source in 2017 does not make it any less fun today.

>>383449775
They're still exactly like that.

>>383449778
if you port the new tf2 material into garrys mod

protip its the same engine and uses the same shit. if the engines BOTH games used improved, of course it would.

>>383449841
>ignore the actual points and focus on the lols
lol

>>383449775
I don't think there should be "offensive classes" or "defensive classes" at all.

Not only is it blatantly false (Heavy can be quite useful on Payload offense, Engineer can be almost vital on Attack/Defend offense, and Scout can be super useful on defensive sides since he rarely has to worry about Sentries) but it's bad game design to lock players who enjoy playing a certain class to only be useful half of the time.

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Meet the Bastion is the best Pixar movie out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8yh83jlXg

>>383449775
>Pyro
>flanking class and crowd controller
Lol. More like combo babysitter

>>383445760
>the scuntfag
You can fuck righ off, I Phlog you pieces of shit for breakfast.

>>383449997
I agree with you but I think the game is already like that. Any class is viable when attacking and defending.

>>383450010
>best one has no speaking

Blizzard really fucking sucks at writing dialogue. Trying to play their "lore" as serious as possible seems like a poor decision too.

>>383445760
Spy is Super God tier if you have skill.

>>383449976
>the actual points
all of which have already been addressed with no rebuttal. All you provided were "lol"s.
It's nice to know that you're completely out of arguments. Thank you for conceding the argument to me. Never post again.

From hereon in you are marked as a shitposter. Maybe you're just OP trying to make more TF2 discussion by posting blatant mistruths, maybe you really are such a dumb Crowbcat drone willing to ignore reality so you can be mad, who knows?

Either way, TF2 is a fun game, and all your arguments to the contrary have been proven wrong. So there's no reason why anyone in here should take notice of your opinion.
>>383449319
Still waiting on my apology, bitchboy. Suck my dick, choke on it.

>>383445760
>meet the spy isn't god tier
Listen up, anon, or making poorly thought-out tier lists will be the second worst thing to happen to you today.

>>383449236
It's not about it being noticeable, it's that there's no reason why they should have been changed in the first place except for the model/weapon shading.
>m-muh optimization
Removing features is not how you do optimization.

>>383450218
Doomfist reveal movie was pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qD_GTyXrrc

>>383445760
>Meet the Demo not in great tier
t. bad demoman

>>383450265
>ill just ignore the rebuttals, and they just stop existing!
lol. every other source game has been ported over to, and improved because they didnt have hats literally fucking the basic fundamental code of the game. end of story. reminder, the upgrade to source 2 was FREE. tf2 was unable to receive a FREE update that all the other games got for FREE because its so fucking fucked.

the question "why does tf2 not run as well as every other source engine game"? the answer: hhhhhaaaatttttsssss

>>383450010
God, Overwatch's cinematics are so cliched and boring. They look nice as hell, though, I'll give them that.

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>>383450163
>Any class is viable when attacking and defending.
That's a fair point for Payload and Attack/Defend.
But not in 5CP, CTF, TC, RD, PASS Time or competitively played Koth.
The main reason that most of TF2's symmetrical game modes are so stalemate-prone is that we have dedicated "defense classes".

If all the classes were balanced to be more useful both on offense and defense, this problem would be solved.

As an example I'll give Team Fortress Classic. While they did have dedicated defense classes then too, the offense classes were so enormously mobile that CTF was still a workable game mode.
In fact, CTF was the main mode anyone played. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm1ajobCgxA

But in TF2 where we have Heavy and Engineer as super-powerful dedicated defensive classes, and nobody as powerful solely on offense as they are on defense, CTF no longer works as a game mode.

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who /scoot/ here?

Are you a stock man or do you like some flavor>

Real talk: Is it even possible to make a TF3 at this point? TF2 has ten years worth of content at this point, I doubt better graphics would be worth getting rid of all that shit.

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>>383449391
>years from now
>tf2 died completely
>the final era in the life of tf2
>only one community server remains
>inhabitants are old veteram 10000+ hour unusual wearing players, equipped with hale's own australium weapons clocking in at several hundred-thousands kills
>every fullmoon the most spectacular battles take place
>rocket and sticky jumping beyond anything that has ever been witnessed
>it all ends in a unusual conga line that with all effects, crashes the server, putting the final nail in the tf2 coffin

>>383451118
I WANT them to get rid of all that shit

>>383445760
>not all of them in god tier
fucking awful taste

>>383445760
Why dont people like the meet the pyro video?

>>383451364
implied bronyshit coinciding with the existence of MLP

>>383451118
How do you even follow up TF2?

TFC had that realistic almost WW2 aesthetic while TF2 had a cartoony but very 60's spy movie aesthetic (At least mostly) with colourful characters. Where do you go from there?

>>383451118
valve no longer makes video games.

>>383451131
>implying the best players wear gaudy unusuals

>>383451464
outside of valve's comfort zone using an engine that can support large open areas, high player counts, and terrain deformations, and the game is similar to the TF2 prototypes from the early 2000's

>>383451000
so all the worst and least fun gamemodes?

>>383451331
Pyro would be decent if it weren't for pyrovision

>>383451118
It's possible. There's a lot of room for improvement on Team Fortress 2 to make a truly perfect Team Fortress game with 3. However I would really miss the TF2 cast.
>>383451464
>TFC had that realistic almost WW2 aesthetic
Actually, TFC's aesthetic was solely derived from Half-Life. It could more accurately be described as a "modern" aesthetic, modern for the 1990s anyway.
>Where do you go from there?
Something futuristic. Maybe a Cyberpunk aesthetic?
>QWTF=Alternate Lovecraftian universe aesthetic
>TFC= Modern aesthetic
>TF2= Past aesthetic
>TF3= Future aesthetic
>>383451751
They're the worst and least fun primarily because TF2 has defensive classes.

Capture the Flag was the mode people found the most fun in the Team Fortress series until TF2. It was TF2's weakening of offensive classes and strengthening of defensive classes which caused people to stop enjoying CTF.

So, if we remove the concept of "offensive" and "defensive" classes from balancing entirely and make every class more useful both on offense and defense, then all the modes you called the least fun can be more fun.

>>383452047
>So, if we remove the concept of "offensive" and "defensive" classes from balancing entirely and make every class more useful both on offense and defense, then all the modes you called the least fun can be more fun.
and then what, all the classes are different shades of the same thing?
I don't understand how it's possible to fix this without fucking up the fundamentals of TF2 entirely. Stop comparing it to TFC, TFC had a heap of it's own problems like the medic making scout (and others) redundant and the spy being 100% useless.

>>383451551
I just picture Gabe being asked by someone "When are you going to make a new game" and having him grab him, throw him around a bit and ask him, "Do you know how much money I'd lose if I made games?"

>>383451000
>underrated post

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>he comes from an era where the hippocratic oath was downgraded to an optional hippocratic suggestion

I love the little details in the lore.

>>383452171
>and then what, all the classes are different shades of the same thing?
Not at all.
It's possible to make all 9 classes unique experiences without some of them being dedicated defenders.
Look at the way Quake 3 Arena handles its 9 weapons. Despite none of them being explicitly "offensive" or "defensive" weapons, they all have different playstyles.

For example: If Engineer was a less defensively-focused class by making his Sentries less able to turtle but more able to move, he'd still be unique in the sense of being an aimbot-builder who constructs things.
>TFC had a heap of it's own problems like the medic making scout (and others) redundant and the spy being 100% useless.
I agree. Those issues stemmed from Valve not making the classes distinct enough.

However, that doesn't mean that a class has to be only offensive or defensive to be distinct from other classes. Demo and Soldier and Medic and Scout show us this: They're all usable both on defense and offense, yet they're all also unique experiences.

What we don't want to copy from TFC is making many classes overlap. What we do want to copy from TFC is symmetrical game modes being fun and working properly.

>>383445760
>meet the soldier this high
>meet the demo this fucking low
fuck right off pal

>>383452509
>Soldier went to Germany to kill everyone but the war has been over for 10 years. Not an actual soldier, got discharged pretty quickly.
>Has been told all the other Mercs are American so he doesn't kill them
>Got kicked out of Merasmus' house because he was a slob
>Technically a lawyer.

>>383450397
>anime now
China ruins everything

>>383452715
Don't forget
>fugged best girl

>>383452664
You're comparing a game like TF2 to a game like Quake, you have to stop, one is a class based shooter, the other isnt. Get the Quake mentality out of your head for class based shooters, they don't mesh well together, although I do 100% understand what you are saying.

>If Engineer was a less defensively-focused class by making his Sentries less able to turtle but more able to move
How exactly? Valve made minisentries to do that, and the community STILL bitches about them.

For instance, how do you make Heavy better at offense? His main issues are his large hitbox, slow speed, and inability to do anything without a constant healing (medic).
How do we fix the heavy to be better on offense, without ruining the design him being a slow, large, high HP, requiring healing to defend. My biggest gripe, is a heavy has it easier on defense because he has easier access to health and ammo, a heavy on offense needs a medic, but how do we make it so the heavy doesn't need a medic, without making him OP?

>>383452047
>Future Aesthetics
Having an engineer being a full cyborg would be cool.

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>>383453014
Wait what, I thought Olivia was pure

>>383453117
TF2 started on quake

>>383453713
Yes I know that, but TF2 is not the Quake mod.

>>383452171
>spy being 100% useless
tranq pistol, instagib trapped backpacks, grappling hook, and gas grenades say otherwise

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>>383453832
he donk'd

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>>383453832
nice shot anon
you meant to do that right?

>>383453832
>making a webm of this pleb shit
>posting it on 4chan

why would you even bother? none of that was impressive

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Post your gunfu

>>383453832
>Playing this map
>Enemies are at the last point with 4 minutes to spare
>me and friend switch to pyro and keep airblasting them off

>>383454024
>t. coachruns32

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>>383453117
>Get the Quake mentality out of your head for class based shooters, they don't mesh well together
Team Fortress as a series actually is descended from Quake. The original Team Fortress was a mod of Quake, and as such, both Quake 3 Arena and Team Fortress 2 share many weapon archetypes in common. That's why they make for a good comparison. Almost every Quake 3 Arena weapon slot behaves similarly in playstyle to a TF2 class. Obviously TF2 can never be fully like Quake 3 Arena, I agree with you there.
>and the community STILL bitches about them
Honestly most people don't bitch about minisentries anymore.
>How exactly (Would you make Engineer and Heavy more useful on offense and less useful on defense)?
It's a good question. Honestly I'm still not 100% sure myself.
Focusing more on Engineer's supportive buildings would be good. Weaken the stock Sentry Gun, buff the Dispenser and Teleporter and building redeploy/haul times. This would make him more mobile on the battlefield.
People have also suggested ideas for alternative PDAs which include a speed boost pad to replace the Teleporter (so that in 5CP you could launch your allies to high speeds towards the frontline), or a backpack-mounted Dispenser that allows Engineer to heal people and supply ammo on the move, at a cost to his Sentry.
>How do we fix the heavy to be better on offense, without ruining the design him being a slow, large, high HP
What about reducing/removing the spun-up speed penalty and buffing his accuracy, in exchange for reducing his HP to 250? He'd still be the slowest, largest, highest HP class in the game, but less drastically so. That would make him more useful on offense and less game-breakingly useful on defense.

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>>383453921
nope, we also got stomped

>>383449775
If we're talking about your average skill level, then yes, they're all what their theoretical roles should be. But almost all the classes can fit in various roles, primarily between offense and defense just as well as any other.

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>>383454032
Not a gun but the KGBs are my favorite weapon
>>383454139
>Team Fortress as a series actually is descended from Quake
as I told the other anon, I know this, but TF2 shares very little with TFC, let alone the quake mod. I understand where you were coming from though.
>Weaken the stock Sentry Gun
the problem is sentries are already very easy to destroy, and have been nerfed several times, more nerfs will just make them pointless I believe
>buff the dispenser and teleporter
Dispenser could do with a small healing buff, but the teleporter at level 3 transporting in 3 seconds seems good
>building redeploy and haul
agreed
>People have also suggested ideas for alternative PDAs which include a speed boost pad to replace the Teleporter (so that in 5CP you could launch your allies to high speeds towards the frontline), or a backpack-mounted Dispenser that allows Engineer to heal people and supply ammo on the move, at a cost to his Sentry.
those honestly sound like wonderful ideas.
>What about reducing/removing the spun-up speed penalty and buffing his accuracy
Valve is way ahead of you on that one, check the recent patch note blog post.
>reducing HP to 250
no can do, soldiers eat heavy's alive as is (in my 3000+ hours of playing)

>>383454513
>soldiers eat heavy's alive as is
Lets be honest here, the Heavy is so slow, even a medic can sometimes eat him alive.

>>383454682
True, I kill heavy's frequently as engineer (sans sentry)
the rev up nerf really ruined the class, luckily that's gone this next update.

Reminder that the Family Business is the Heavy's best kept secret

>>383451454
>mlp invented that kind of world

>>383454771
Really hate how rare shotgun heavies are now.
Fond memories of introducing everyone to the family business

>>383454978
I still run shotgun heavy frequently, Panic attack and Family Business are my jam.

>>383454978
I've used lunchbox items on heavy forever and only recently tried his shotguns again, they pair well with the huo long heater.

>>383455023
Excellent, shame they changed the panic attack again.
It was pretty damn great on engi and heavy despite it not being a back up weapon.

>>383455131
the way they changed it seems great though, I want to try it out before judging though

>>383454978
I rarely play Heavy as it is, unless it's a specific area we have to push with an ubercharge. He's just slow, and that really prevents people being able to fit him in other roles, no matter how skilled. Even with the whole "jump around a corner revving up the minigun" "strategy" didn't add that much variance on what you can pull off.

>>383453829
>instagib trapped backpacks, grappling hook
I don't think you're thinking of TFC

>>383451364
>Why dont people like the meet the pyro video?
The entire joke was just one cliche premise that wasn't actually funny, it clashed with the Pyro's in-game interactions prior to the video, and added a offhand accessory that got old very quick.

You can hear in this, 3 years ago, how Soldier's VA can't yell anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlLQ3LmZWU

Any idea as to why mods deleted the last TF2 thread in the morning?

>>383456027
I like Nolan North, but it's really obvious that it's him when that moment pops up.

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>>383450991
Bastions short was the first time they ever showed what the Omnic War actually looked like when it was going full force. Also machines in tune with nature is still the best trope ever though.

Why do people hate Hoodoo?

>>383456027
>valve will never remake the tf2 comics in sfm
it probably wouldnt live up to the comics though

Friendlies ruined this game.

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>>383454513
>sentries are already very easy to destroy. more nerfs will just make them pointless I believe
Sentries have more HP than Soldier, are a literal aimbot, can be healed faster than a Medic can heal a player, and have the second highest DPS in the game after the Knife.

We can nerf Sentries without them becoming "pointless". Right now they are super strong. The fact they actually can be destroyed doesn't make them weak.
>agreed
>these sound like wonderful ideas
Noice.
>Valve is way ahead of you on that one, check the recent patch note blog post.
Nah, Valve are changing the spin-up accuracy penalty and not making any changes to Heavy's speed. You must have misread them.
http://www.teamfortress.com/
I'm talking about making Heavy more accurate ALL the time, rather than just during spinup.
>no can do, soldiers eat heavy's alive
If we make Heavy more mobile and accurate while spun up by reducing the spinup speed penalty, he will have more ability to dodge away from Rockets. Therefore, he should also be more easy to kill to balance out this improved dodging ability.
>>383456027
> Soldier's VA can't yell anymore
He can though. Just not as much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArChK-OyIC8

HYDRO DID NOTHING WRONG

>>383457270
nofun fag detected

>>383457285
>Nah, Valve are changing the spin-up accuracy penalty and not making any changes to Heavy's speed. You must have misread them.
oh my bad, i misread the speed boost, Valve is at least fixing the rev up, so you don't have to be CONTINUOUSLY FIRING to retain the damage and accuracy ramp up

>>383451364

So fucking retarded its where I lost faith in valve

>>383457316
I like the idea of multi-stage maps like that.

>>383457285
>those voice lines
>all of those glorious voice lines
best part about that absolutely horrid update

>>383457175
>the tfc classes use their models ripped from the game, out of place textures and all

>>383457384
Yeah, really fun when you join a server to stand still and not do shit and cry like a bitch when you get killed. Fuck off.

>TF3 released
>all the autists lost their shit over the years it took them to get all those stupid ass hats

Well looks like i'm not playing TF2 anytime soon again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGtL3qRqgw
why can't these people fuck off?

>>383451364
it's painfully unfunny

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>>383457285
I do quite like the scout's VA but he's starting to seem like he's trying to copy himself, or the idea that most people have of the scout, his original lines have a bit more variation, then again I guess you could argue he was less consistent back then. I dunno.

He sounds like what I'd sound like if someone asked me to do a scout impression. Except better.

>>383457943
scratch that, the people who actively refuse to play the game are the ones who should rot in hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMlsSecuzE8

>>383457805
We've been playing for years anon
we done mostly everything i just want to dance with enemies

>>383458452
hackers are below friendly fags
friendly fags might as well not be there, hackers actively impede on everyone's game
both deserve the worst.

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2 soldiers are too strong in 6v6.

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>>383458591

explain

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>>383458703
Not that guy.

But there's 9 classes, and and in 6s, soldier is picked twice. Unlike the scout which is picked twice for his objective getting ability, Soldier is picked twice because he's just reliable at everything.

>>383457857
>traded my unusuals away long ago
>just stuck with hats that either fit the theme or I personally love (mostly historical items)
>all these autists are going to lose everything if TF3 ever exists

>>383458703
2 soldiers outclass the half of the cast in 6v6.

>>383458984

what would he be replaced with? most of the classes simply don't do well enough in 6v6 (besides maybe sniper) to be consistent picks

the real question here is, how do we replace the really limited 6v6 format with one that's fun?

>>383459281
8v8

>>383458703
2 soldiers > everything

>>383459281
6v6 with class limit or highlander.

>>383457285
>Right now they are super strong.
I can tell you don't play engineer.

>>383448876
>upgrade graphics
>they now look worse

Gee, thanks for the upgrades Valve!!

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>>383458984
>>383458591
This is why Engineer and Heavy need to be made less skewed towards defense and more generally useful.
>>383459530
Actually I do. I have about 170 hours on Engineer.

What I said is all fact. Sentries are an aimbot with 215HP, that can be healed 4x faster than a player can, that have the second highest DPS in TF2.

So yes, Sentries are super strong.

>>383459530
If anything, I think your play of Engineer may be biasing you towards him.
Just because Sentries aren't literally invincible doesn't mean they're not super strong.

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>>383450010
>project titan was going to be a super hero mmo game focused in what's equivalent of the war against the machines on matrix
>intead we get semi-moba casual shooter with no content
FUCKING HELL BLIZZARD why do you always fuck up?

>>383459914
>Sentries are an aimbot with 215HP
And they have no range unless you use the wrangler, they're also statick
>that can be healed 4x faster than a player can
Irrelevant considering they die in 2-3 rockets, grenades and stickies. All of them can be fired from outside the sentry's field of view
>that have the second highest DPS in TF2.
See above

>>383460006
Sentries are a fucking joke to any team that's slightly coordinated, i.e. not pubs/casual

>>383452032
>not jamming to 60s rock
kys

I FEAR NO MAN.

but that THING

it scares me.

>>383449197
I think that was because it broke on Linux

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If the Meet the Team videos came out today, /v/ would find some reason to hate them.

Since most anon's seem to dislike the Meet the Pyro video, i ask you, what would have changed it to be instead as well as showing off Pyro as a character?

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>>383459281
Well there's no reason to replace him with anything, as he is just so reliable he will go generally uncontested.
>>383459403
^This man is correct

I do quite like soldier and don't think he needs to be changed but looking at it objectively he's just incredibly strong.

Starting off with the raw fact he 200 health and 300 at overheal, 4 shots aoe with that can do anywhere from 200-400 damage depending on range, respectable reload speed, effective at long-ish to short range.

I mean he has more health than a short range class like pyro for some reason, the fact he can just lob two rockets at the ground and kill pyro just eliminates pyro from competitive play entirely. The only reason demoman is picked in 6s is because at least he has some range to him

>>383460321
>And they have no range unless you use the wrangler
Well that's not true. They have pretty damn good range, and with no damage falloff or spread either, 100% accurate. It's capped but it's still sizeable.
>they're also statick
If they weren't static they would be downright broken. As I said, yes, that is a weakness, but just because they have weaknesses doesn't mean they're not super strong.
>Irrelevant considering they die in 2-3 rockets, grenades and stickies
It's not irrelevant. When you get healed for 105HP per Wrench swing and the Rocket Launcher only does 90 damage to the Sentry Gun per Rocket, the high repair rate of the Engineer allows him to actually out-tank the Soldier's damage rate.

See, you're simply listing the weaknesses of the Sentry Gun while ignoring its strength in TF2 as a whole.
>i.e. not pubs/casual
I didn't want to bring up competitive play in case you complained about elitism or whatever, but the whole reason that they limit Engineer to 1 is becaus the Sntry is so strong

>>383461254
>Well that's not true.
It's true enough that they can get destroyed by pistol and revolver spam if you're not sitting near them.

>If they weren't static they would be downright broken.
But they aren't, which is my point. They're an incredibly easy target, at least heavies can move.
>When you get healed for 105HP per Wrench swing and the Rocket Launcher only does 90 damage
Again, do you play engineer? Have you tried to tank through a decent soldier's harassment? Unless you're using the rescue ranger the splash damage will kill you and then the sentry is as good as dead.

See, you're simply listing the strengths of the Sentry Gun while ignoring its weakness in TF2 as a whole

>but the whole reason that they limit Engineer to 1 is becaus the Sntry is so strong
I agree that more than one Sentry would ruin the game, but as it is now just one is not anywhere near "super strong".

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>>383459914
>tfw spy and pyro main
I-I w-was carrying the t-team tho...

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Anyway... that's how I lost all of my video game writers.

>>383445760
>pyro that low
Nah

L4d2 is dead. Like 15 People in versus at a time

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>playing through HL1, OF, BS, HL2, ep1, and now going to start ep2
It's not fair bros. They have to announce something eventually, right?

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>>383462453
>Playing through HL2
>It's fucking boring
I'm still going to finish it out of principle but I don't know why I expected anything else.

>>383462453
once you finish episode 2 you'll feel empty for a bit. you'll watch videos about the games, theories on various characters and things. Eventually you'll play mods and start getting into making hammer maps just to play with the source engine. you'll look for something to fill that void and eventually it'll go away

>>383461916
>the blood at the end
Gets me every time

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kWNqr9VMAzQ

Is tf2 kino?

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>>383462591
>>383462660
>>383462823

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>>383451364
It was just unfunny but made even worse when you realize this was when bronies and furries were starting to become a considerable chunk of the player base. Bottomline this video really did not do the community any favors.

>>383460295
It's nothing like a MOBA.

>>383443009
You dont really need writers, TF2 misadventures write themselves thanks to how good the characters are by themselves already

>>383439871
GET BEHIND ME DOCTOR

>>383464476
>objective focused game with focus on abilities, and on picks and counterpicks
It's a MOBA.

>>383464639
It's not. At all. It's a class based shooter.
There is no :
Cores
Talents
Towers
NPC
Symetric Maps
Lanes
Levels

It's like saying that Quake is a MOBA. It's not.

>>383461619
>if you're not sitting near them
The Engineer usually is though. Which isn't very fun for the Engineer or anyone playing against it.
>They're an incredibly easy target
They're an incredibly powerful *area denial* asset. Just because it's easy to hit them doesn't mean it's also easy to kill them. As I said, the Wrench can out-heal most forms of damage.

For example, an Ubered Brass Beast Heavy is extremely easy to hit. Does that make him easy to kill?
>Again, do you play engineer?
I already answered that. Yes I do. I've seen well what the Engineer is capable of in a team with teamwork playing against a team with teamwork.
>I agree that more than one Sentry would ruin the game, but as it is now just one is not anywhere near "super strong".
An Engineer is more useful on defense than any other class except maybe a Medic. That's what I mean by "super strong".

Because the pub game is currently balanced around Engineer's inherent defensive strength, you have stuff like 20 minute long cap times on the third stage of Dustbowl to compensate for Engineer's defensive strength. The game isn't broken in light of this, but it shouldn't need to be that way. And in modes where it's not explicitly balanced around Engie, even a single Engie can severely slow down the game since you need to waste a whole Uber to take down a lone lv3 Sentry.

And you agree with me that Engineer is game-breaking when you have multiple level 3 Sentries. This is why I think we should decrease the strength of the Sentry Gun and buff the strength of Engineer's supportive buildings.

>>383464987
hence why he said semi-moba in the original post. The objective and the way you reach the objective is different from mobas, but the way the "heroes" work is just like them with 3 abilities and an ult.

>>383464987
>multiplayer online battle arena
Tell me what on moba contradicts what you just said. Go on I'll wait.

And don't forget what you said apply to other games on the moba genre such as bloodline champions.

>>383465090
What? No. Heroes having Ults does not mean it's a MOBA. At all.
MOBA is a specific kind of game with specific rules. There is no resemblance between Overwatch and MOBAs outside of "both use heroes"
There is no Creep in Overwatch, No XP, No Level up system, No locking down of a hero, No Towers, No Core to destroy.

>>383465190
Ah, you are that kind of idiot who take an acronym and just say "IT MEANS THAT!!" MOBA is a type of game inspired by DotA, not all Multiplayer games that are set in an Arena. Please, dont be stupid. If you cant tell a game is a MOBA, then you either dont want to see, or have some real problems.
Bloodline Champion is not a MOBA because it does not have NPC's, Lanes, Creeps, Towers, Core.
It's just a PVP game in an Arena. It's WoW PVP. Nothing like a MOBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR19JMLHJ_M

>>383465452
>Bloodline Champion is not a MOBA
So you are the judge of the language to decide these things? Because the community of the game still regard it as a moba.

Now YOU don't be stupid and accept when you lost an argument, MOBA means what the acronym means, not more, not less.

One could say that HoTS isn't a moba by your idea beacause all other similar games have items but hots doesn't, that's not how language works buddy.

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Post loadouts.

I tried making a monarch hencman + Hunter Gathers from venture bros and Eario from that oc donut steel image but I cant find good hair.

>>383445760
>Engie merely decent
>Sniper and Spy not god

>>383465452
>>383464639
>>383464987
Why are you retards talking about shitty genres in a TF2 thread?

This is off-topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDFTz2T9KBs
S M O O T H M A N

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>>383465905
The Mantis Shrimp is neither a Shrimp or a Mantis
The Raspberry is not a Berry.
It is how language work. We have categories, and those categories have rules.

HoTS is a MOBA because it's one team vs another team, with Creep, Towers, A core to be destroyed by the enemy team, level ups, XP, Locking down of the hero.

I dont see why you insist trying to put a Class based FPS where you can switch off a hero at any time, as a MOBA. It's not.

>>383466023
Because he's saying that TF2 is a MOBA.

>>383449236
>Literally nobody noticed or complained about anything but the Bottle until Crowbcat made a video
man you're such a fucking bullshitter it's incredible

>>383466157
Well he is a retard but dont keep entertaining him.

It is shit like this that attracts these retards in the first place.

>>383445760
Spy is the best by far

>>383466023
Because bastion trailer's was posted and I noticed we could have had an open world tps superhero game set on the equivalent of the war against the machines from matrix during it's prime. During my complain I mentioned semi-moba because of the number of similarities and this >>383466130 autist got triggered.

>>383466130
>we have catgories
Which are not up for you to decide, you can't decide what makes part of a moba game or not, until hots no game on the genre had no items, so fuck off with trying to control the meaning of the word.

>>383458531
Really? If you're bored of playing the game then fuck off. That's how it's supposed to be. Would rather have 39k semi competent players than 60k retards. Sell your candy ass hats and fuck off.

>>383466157
>tf2
>same as overwatch
Are you willingly going to ignore the fact that tf2 has an actual weapon system with actual classes? Actual classic fps modes and actual hitboxes? If you are going to argue something at least do it properly.

>>383466307
30k* but you get the point. The game had its best days when it wasn't free, it was only 20k back then. Fucking F2P brought in so many shitters and valve never bothered to make a good tutorial. hats were more important I guess.

>>383466417
That's a real sin. Tutorial should exist and be mandatory, and class selection screen should have hints about team composition. So many times you see a spy or engi who literally have no clue what buttons to press.

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>>383466104
>Spy winning against sniper in melee combat.
lel
>Spy winning against medic in melee combat.
LMEO

Never gets old.

>>383466130
overwatch is multiplayer
overwatch is online
overwatch is a battle arena

wow

>>383466264
This is false.
Several MOBA had no items. Also, HOTS replaced items with Talents, which act like items for the most part.

>>383466378
TF2 Vanilla had no item choices, they were added in the Medic update. It had the same modes as Overwatch too. And Overwatch has hitboxes too.

Please, stop posting.

>>383466235
Will do, it just so annoying to see people think that any game is a MOBA just because it's PVP and Online.

>>383445760
ACTUAL objective meet the tier list

>god tier
Spy
Medic

>great tier
Sniper
Demo

>good tier
Scout
Soldier

>decent tier
Engineer
Heavy
Sandvich

>shit tier
Pyro

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What's your favourite normal gamemode custom map?

So, next update animation when?

>>383466721
Koth_rainbow_b6

>>383466604
I'd put mine with minor differences but for the most part you are my fucking nigger

>>383466520
Nah, those two are entirely plausible due to the unreliability of backstab hitboxes.

The real kicker is anyone actually getting fooled by a Spy disguise.

>>383460695
I'd keep the fear theme that was present in the first half of the video, I like the idea that the Pyro is feared by the other classes (despite not being great in game)

Even the portrait poster of the Pyro had ominous shadows which isn't present in the others

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>>383466860
If afterburn wasn't such a low damage, easily extinguished joke that does less damage in 10 seconds than a melee hit does in 1 second, people might actually fear the Pyro.

What Pyro needs is a higher skill floor+ceiling, and more power within that ceiling.

>>383466546
>Several MOBA had no items
go on name them
>Please, stop posting.
You're the autist that got triggered by "SEMI-moba".

Normal shooters don't have abilities which while TF2 does it has not nearly the same amount of focus on them as overwatch. Normal shooters allow you to customize your class. And don't even try to compare the travesty that are the overwatch hitboxes with TF2 hitboxes.

TF2 is not on the same category as most shooters and overwatch took that base and walked several steps into the moba genre. And you still don't get to decide which aspects make a game a moba when said aspects are not intrinsic to the acronym.

>>383439942
There's supposedly gonna be an SFM short with the Pyro update, so look forward to that in 2019.

>>383467114
The literal only difference between TF2 Vanilla and Overwatch Vanilla is a Ultimate ability not unlocked by a level but by damage dealt/healed. This does not make a "SEMI MOBA". At all. It's still a class shooter and it it a pure FPS with no MOBA features at all.

>>383452715
Isn't Soldier also technically Canadian? I thought that was a detail in the comics or I could just be pulling this out of my ass

>>383467469
He's American from the Midwest. You're thinking of Canada because one of his domination voicelines tells someone to "Go back to Calgary, you cowardly Canadian."

>>383467469
It's out your ass but it would be pretty funny. Especially if he never finds out but the team do somehow

>>383467457
>no moba features
My point being you don't get yo pick which are those features.
My second point being stop being so autistic.

>>383467613
I do. Since we have a definition. The consensus is already done.
Go read the sources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena
Dont (you) me anymore.

>>383467725
>wikipedia
HA HA HO HO
You gotta be fucking kidding me. It's funny because I didn't even went home on how fortresses and core are just another word for "objective" so it's possible to draw even more similarities between a dota-like and a "class shooter ", but you had to prove your point wrong.

For your own sake, stop being so autistic.

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>>383467725
Post weapons

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Post the most FUN class in TF2 in your subjective opinion, and why that class makes you feel those feels.

>>383468840
one hitting a full health heavy with a sniper and watching the medic go crazy is always fun

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Any loadout ideas to emulate this look? Right now I've got my Spy with the Lurking Legionnaire and Patriot Peak (both the color of a gentlemann's business pants) and then a mustachioed mann

>>383468840
stock demoman is the best fun I've ever had in videogames. Precision pills and placing stickies right where they need to be make me rock hard. Also I love his character.

>>383468949
looks like more of an engie deal to me
>>383468840
Engineer. I have Parkinson's and can't aim for shit. Thanks to Engineer TF2 is one of the few FPS games I can participate in.

>>383468840
Beggars soldier, the jumping is fun

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>>383468840
Pyro. I love hitting enemies once and making them suffer damage over time as a result. Deals with all those pesky little fucks I can't normally catch.

>>383468949
Commissar's Coat+Graybanns for the Heavy

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>medic appears out of nowhere with 100% charge at the exact right time

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>>383469552
>hitting a teammate who's about to die with a long range crossbow bolt

I love playing support

>>383467145
>2019
anon your pushing your luck

>tfw voting yes/no on workshop items in a futile attempt to curate which hats fit the artstyle and is well-made
tell me it's not for naught

>>383468840
Saxton Hale.

>>383470041
my main problem with hats is exactly that. If all hats were appropriate for the class/era, the game wouldn't be as ugly as it is now. also paint was a fucking disgrace

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>>383470041
I do it too. No idea whether it's actually making an impact.

>Sentries are OP
>Pyro is shit
>Spy is useless
>Soldier is perfectly balanced
>Sticky bomb spam isn't a problem
How to spot a guy that can't play tf2 at all

>>383470201
Tbh the paints are actually appropriate to the 1960s era. There's nothing wrong with lime green considering you would have seen go-go dancers decked out in it in the day.

So I'm fine with the paints, I'm just not fine with how they're used. Lime greens and bright pinks should have been restricted to certain cosmetics.

>>383470261
lazy bait

>>383468840
I like playing Heavy with creative sets. Sometimes I tried to play assault Heavy for shit and giggles, I pick some alternative path alone, I pop up behind the enemy lines and make a mess.

Otherwise Spy and (battle) Engi are really fun too.

>>383470261
>spy is useless

But he is, though desu I wouldnt have it any other way I hate the entire concept of the class

>>383470376
Not an argument.

>>383470446
It's a very lazy and obvious bait, don't give it replies. If OP wants posts for his thread he should make quality content, not bait.

i remember the first day of the engineer update was the day my mom told me we were losing our house

>>383470516
nice blogpost. Now I'm curious. How did it turn out for you?

>>383445760
>god tier
medic
soldier
scout
sniper
demoman
>shit tier
the rest
FTFY
in the competitive scene all but those 5 have simple counter plays if you coordinate correctly.

Meet the Pyro was great. The only thing I don't like about it is it made Pyro never get any decent taunts.

>>383470421
>pick HLH
>jump from a high ledge right into the middle of enemy team
>collect free frags

>>383470446
He is not.
>Sapping sentries while an ally soldier or demo will help you
>Backstab top players and/or medics on purpose to help your team having an easy time
>Destroy teleporters, which are vital to win, with ease
And this goes both in casual and pro battles.
If you complain about spies being easy to spot, well, you aren't playing spy propely.

>>383470649
It's a meet the team video tier list, dungus.

>>383470735
ah shit
there are a few talking about actual tiers tho

>>383470808
yeah they need to learn to read
i agree with your post btw
>engineer: too slow to get to frontline set up
>heavy: too slow to get to frontline revved up
>pyro: press S
>spy: look around

what was the funniest moment in all the "Meet the" videos?

Medic opening the fridge and the Spy head going "kill me" got me the most.

>>383468840
Being able to go wherever the fuck you want as soldier with rocket jumping is a blast

The banners and market gardener are a lot of fun as well.

>>383470927
>UNLESS IT'S A FARM

>>383470927
>i have done nothing but teleport bread for three days

>>383470927
Either
>"What are you, president of his fan club?"
>No, that would be your mother!

or

>Oh, don't be a baby, ribs grow back
>No zey don't.

>>383470927
This... is a bucket
dear god
there's more.
NOO!

>>383471003
>>383471069
Not a "Meet the" video, but these are funny moments regardless.

SEDUCE ME!

>>383445760
>Spy is not godtier
>Scout should be decent tier
You fucked it up

>>383448610
I don't even know how our server runs so much more smoothly than most servers despite its atmospherics simulator.

>>383470927
>"They got more *BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP* than they got the likes ah me.

Or pretty much the whole meet the medic "operation" scene.

>>383470927
>You call that breaking my spine!

>>383470572
moved in with my grandma for around 5 years, my bed was the living room couch, my aunt passed away and left me her house, that was about 2 years ago.

overall pretty good, miss my aunt though.

>>383470927
Unless it's a farm

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>>383468840
>tfw your sentry is placed just right and your name is all over the killfeed
>tfw playing combat engie and wrecking fools who didn't expect to see you pop up
>tfw teammates acknowledges your strategic building placement
>tfw being credit to team

>>383449197
There's actually c model for broken bottle in the game files. They most likely disabled it, because people thought that broken bottle does more damage.

>>383471372
>>tfw playing combat engie and wrecking fools who didn't expect to see you pop up

most fun I've ever had was Engie was the few days after the patch that introduced the mini-sentry, and just being a super-aggressive asshole with it

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>>383460695
I liked meet the pyro
>>383467080
Nah Pyro is good

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>>383439942
I think the big question is
Would they even care to make them anymore?

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>Play joke loadouts and generally fuck around
>Still always top score
Why are people on pubs so bad? I mean on valve servers people were always bad but come on, its worse than ever now. I just wish Rocketblast servers would come back

>>383471063
It's funny because they do.

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>>383464192
>He thinks bronies and furries only started to get fucking massive at Meet the Pyro

Which fucking server were you playing on?

>>383471857
Matchmaking seems to have got better for me over the past couple of weeks. Like I get put with more experienced people and less one star potatoes. I still top score but only usually and I have to try.

>>383445760
>meet the soldier
>good
most of it wasn't even animation, just poorly recorded gameplay fragments

UPDATE

WHEN

>>383470927
>I think his mate saw me
>yes, yes he did
Meet the Sniper is by far my favorite one, though I don't really play him

>>383448876
>Again, not being ported to Source 2 doesn't make TF2 stop being fun.

I know valve changed to c models in the gun mettle update etc. But come on man the game is a mess in terms of performance I don't know what they need to do but if source 2 were to fix a majority of the games issues with framerate it would make it a lot more fun.

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>>383471504
I used to think the mini-sentry was useless and bad, but nowadays I think I use it more than the default one.

I dunno why, but TF2 seems to be making a comeback on /v/ lately. There's 2 to 3 threads a day, the party van is back... Is this all because of the Pyro/Jungle update? Whatever the case, I hope things keep on going this way/spoiler]

>>383472264
I don't play level 3's fucking ever, whenever I play engie it's gunslinger. even though I fuggin hate playing against it
Also the recent threads are definitely update hype

>>383445760
no no it goes like this
>god tier
pyro
medic
solly

>great
spy
heavy

>decent
engy
demo
sniper

>shit
scout

>>383460695
Be more game accurate. All the other videos gave you hints about how to play the characters like Demo hiding his sticky bombs and sweeping blu team, soilder rocket jumping, or medic healing his entire team and not just pocketing heavy.
Meet the pyro didn't really give you an idea of what his play style is supposed to be. He just kills the entire team in non nondescript ways.
Also have the twist that he thinks he's playing in candyland be the final joke in the video instead of building the entire thing around it.

What's wrong with being a phone poster?

>>383472421
I still play level 3's fairly often, especially when things get tough and a solid defense is needed. Also, because I really like playing with the southern hospitality.
But yeah, gunslinger + frontier justice is a recipe for a really fun time.

>>383472747
no one was talking about phone posting, but it's just that it's easy to avoid bans posting on it.

>>383472817
Or get banned for something you didnt do
I ones got banned for posting on /g/ a board that I never go to.

Sorry. Just was curious. Kept being called a fucfucjing phone poster. Didnt want to start a thread asking that.

>>383439871
I had this retarded thing with my bro after showing him meet the medic where we would randomly end sentences with, "anyway thats how I lost my medical license"

>>383468840
pyro
i'm so sorry, but flanking spraying fire, ambushing loners, environmental kills and reflects are too fucking fun
tfw when ambushing soldier-medic combo and reflecting a random crit killing both

>>383472003
Same here. I still find some noobs but overall I also find opponents and teammates doing their fucking job well.

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>die
>look what my teammates are doing
>some guy missed the giant red arrow and walked all the way to last point

>>383471905
What I'm saying is that it certainly didn't help.

COUPONBUG.COM

>>383449402
People clearly HAVE noticed or shit would not have side-by-sides as it is. Bottle no longer breaking and weapons no longer having physics after death is shit that is easily picked up on. The animation and model changes like demos nade launcher and medics syringe gun is easy spotting. The spy revolver shit is fucking egregious. The fact that the game runs like shit despite upgrading my computer twice since release is a fucking travesty.

The game is worse now even if I decided to play on a vanilla weapons only server. Worse still depending on attitude towards balancing. Fuck off with your 'lel autistic rants the game is still just as good' when it clearly is fucking WORSE after all these years. I'd rather fucking prefer playing an older version than play on the latest one on a vanilla weapons server. Fuck the matchmaking, fuck the UI, fuck the store, fuck the hats, fuck all these superfluous weapons, just fuck it. It's trash, and I played this shit on release.

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when will best girl carry over into the game

>>383473791
hopefully never, she's great in the comics but if she ever gets in the game (outside of a cosmetic reference) I'd be pretty upset

>>383473848
Why? What would the problem be?

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>>383473571
The look at teammates while waiting for respawn is always a treat because nobody has a single fucking clue

>spy runs past the enemy medic a combo and tries to butterknife the pocket to death
>sniper misses all 6 of shots on a walking soldier
>pyro hiding in a corner that nobody will ever turn
>medic lets his pocket die and dies himself despite having uber ready for a full minute
>the only other person trying to play the objective just got gibbed and the entire enemy team is pushing

>>383473919
I don't like the idea of adding a new character, which if she showed up in game I'd assume that's what she would be. Because being a weapon would be fucking terrifying.

>>383473848
i just want to hear how thicc her accent is,
that's all

>>383474060
I don't think that would happen, but if it did, it would probably be small like her handing out contracts or something.

>>383473919
Because she wasn't written to be a new character, and to shoehorn her into the game feels like it would detract from what I like about her.

Who the fuck are these autists that ever gave a shit about comics?

What's your least favorite class to play?

Sniper here

>>383474372
Heavy probably, I just really like mobility and zipping across the map and heavy isn't that type of character.

>>383474372
Everything except medic

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>>383474372
>Sniper here
Amen. I've owned the game since 2007 and have only played 40 minutes of Sniper in total.

>>383473571
>it's a Red team member walks into the dead end/Goldrush Stage 2 blu spawn of Goldrush stage 1

>>383474372
How can anybody enjoy sniper?
>click on heads and win fights with zero danger to yourself
>completely fucked if a half decent player gets the drop on you
It's no fun for yourself or anybody else.

>>383473791
It was bad enough of them jamming Miss Pauling into everything. Ashley Burch really has no range and is grating on the ears.

>>383474372
Engineer. I hate losing my buildings over and over while the team isn't near the objective.

>>383474372
Spy, in my 1500 hours in this game I only have 8 as spy

I'm more or less comfortable playing literally anything else but spy's playstyle makes me want to stick my head in the oven

>>383474372
Medic. I can't do it.

>>383474372
Sniper unless it is against that one Sniper on the enemy team. You know what I am talking about.

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>>383445760
>>383445760
>Spy not in god tier

>>383466604
Now THIS is a man I can drink with

>>383475368
why are french people so salty

>>383476358
That's what you fucking get for playing 2fort you dumb motherfucker.

>>383471282
>"You call that killing me? I am not dead!"
>SNAP
>"Now I am ordering you to kill me. Please please please GOD KILL ME!"

Also

>"You do not frighten me! Pain does not hurt!"
>"I STAND CORRECTED. AUUUGH!"

>>383453594
Sooooo.... any Olivia lewds? I doubt they made an sfm model for nothing

>>383453594
Yeah. Pure slut.

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>>383474715
because I like being an Australian shitposter

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Anyway... that's how I lost my player base

>>383474372
Spy, it not only bloody useless but it's also super awkward to play with shitty backstab hitboxes, clunky disguise menus and decloak timer

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>>383477306
"lost"