Assuming Squirtle isn't available, what is your second choice?

My FIRST choice is bulbasaur.

>>383409489
Bulbasaur is best.

Bulbasaur obviously.

>>383409489
Charmander and I call him Squirtle.
>>383409747
>>383409827
>>383410069
>easy mode casuals

>>383409747
>>383409827
>>383410069
literally these

>>383409489
Another game.

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>>383409489
Bulbasaur is the ONLY choice, though.

>>383409489
Pikachu

>>383410183
Gimping yourself doesn't make you a better player. The game is fuck easy whatever you pick.

>>383409747
>>383409827
>>383410069
First three posts best posts.

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Bulbasaur is more effective than Squirtle

>>383409489
charmander since gary's poke would be bulbafag and weak against it

>>383409489
Charmander is the only real choice. 'That kid' always had Squirtle, and Bulbasaur was for the 'timid special snowflake' kids.

>>383409489
>All this bulbasaur posting
I was honestly expecting everyone saying charmander. Glad I'm not the only Blulbasaur fag around.

I just pick whatever, because I will deposit it as soon as I catch something else anyway

>>383410601
Tryhard edgy kids used charmander. Squirtle was for the intelligent kids. Bulbasaur was for kids who didn't give a fuck.

charmander was hardmode as the first 2 gyms are rock and water.

>>383410505
That's not how it works

>>383410752
Thanks for proving my point.

>>383410904
if he picks charmander, then there's only bulbasaur left you donkey

>>383410904
Yes it would because Squirtle isn't available. Gary doesn't have another choice.

There are two types of peoples; those who are retards and those who pick Charmander.

>>383409489
>1998+19
>not playing pokemon yellow and getting all of them

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>>383409489
I'm taking them both and joining team rocket

>>383409489
Bulbasaur.

A different video game

>He doesn't pick the Grass starter every time
Always the best of the three.

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>>383409489
chimchar master race.

>>383409489
Bulbasaur was gimped.
Charmader is based.

>>383409747
>>383409827
>>383410069
faggots trying to be edgey. it's either squirtle or charmandar. bulbasaur is boring as fuck.

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>>383411795
>you will never get to accept his offer and join team rocket

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>>383412076
Huh, I didn't know taste that shit was possible.

>>383412152
>Playing Pokemon Go late at night
>two guys dressed as Team Rocket come up to me
>beat me up and steal my phone

>>383412076
You don't know what edgy means, anon

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You've beaten Dojo, now who do you pick?

>>383412973
Hitmonlee obviously.

>>383412973
Hitmonlee for elemental punches.

>>383412973
I don't pick either of them and curse the karate guy to a life of eternal waiting.

>>383409489
I pick Charmander anyway

ice > water

What was your starter for each gen?
>Bulbasaur
>Cyndaquil
>Mudkip
>Piplup
>Oshawatt (1)/Snivy (2)
>Chespin
>Rowlet

>>383410183

>not taking bulbasaur so you have access to the plethora of better water and fire types without replacing your starter

>>383413295
you don't have to keep your starter in the team

>>383413369
Yes you do and you know it

>>383413295
nothing is better than a squirtle for water, are you fucking retarded
if anything you could replace bulbasaur with any other grass pokemon and get better results

>>383413237
I played through Fire Red so many times I've used all three equally at this point.
>Cyndaquil
>same as with Gen 1
>Same as with Gen 1 and 3
>Oshawatt in 1, Snivy in 2
>Froakie
>Popplio
Should I even bother finishing Sun and Moon? The story and following Lillie around and shit is really killing it for me.

>>383412152
was hoping some fan would make a game based on this. i would, if i knew fuck all about making the games.

>>383413237
>Bulbasaur
>Cyndaquil
>Torchic
>Turtwig
>Snivy
>Fennekin
>Litten (w/ Eviolite)

>>383413476
Don't worry, gamefreak doesn't know anything about making games either.

>>383413237
only ever played the first 4 generation, and it was always water starters.

>>383413436
>nothing is better than a squirtle for water, are you fucking retarded

Both Starmie and Lapras are vastly superior options, Starmie being one of the best gen 1 sweepers, and Lapras being one of the better gen 1 bulky waters

>>383413237
fire. actual mon irrelevant.

Plebeian - Charmander
Contrarian - Squirtle
Patrician - Bulbasaur

>>383413591
Starmine is shit as a water pokemon, it's a sweeper because of it's psych type, and you might as well get Alakazam for that.

My first choice is boxing it and using Pikachu instead

>>383413538
*subtle nigger chuckle in the background*

>>383413436

>cloyster
>dewgong
>slowbro
>tentacruel

blastoise is formidable but all the above offer stronger dual-typing and better movepools.

charizard is a jobber and only beats magmar statwise, probably flareon too.

Venusaur has access to leech seed which puts it above Victreebel and Vileplume. Exeggutor is the only alternative.

>>383413237
>Bulbasaur
>Skipped
>Mudkip
>Turtwig
>Tepig all gen 5 starters were shit though
>Skipped
>Popplio

>>383413798
>skipped gen 2
oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>383413765
>Exeggutor is the only alternative

And it's pretty much strictly the better choice

Gen 1 starters weren't very good honestly

>>383413591

also this, starmie's surf is unmatched in gen 1

>>383413669
>not wanting to cover two top tier typings in one mon so you can use other cool shit

i'd rather wait til cinnabar and get an omastar than use blastoise tbqh, still better than charizard though

>>383412973
Hitmonlee for hi jump kick. Elemental punches suck for Hitmonchan until gen IV.

>>383409489
I picked Charmander, I never knew that was the hard mode.

Bulbasaur is the most useful in game.

>>383409489
I choose Pikachu!
And then i regret as soon as i reach the first gym.

>>383413982

Probably because it wasn't particularly hard

>>383413237
>charmander
>totodile/cyndaquil
>torchic/mudkip
>piplup
>snivy
>fennekin

>>383410964
>>383411016
Blue always picks the opposites you dipshits
Have you never played the games?

>>383413476

There was one but it was made by some edgy 14 year old.

>>383409489
I never picked Squirtle even though I like him and his evolutions. First choice as a child was always Charmander. Now, though, I'd pick Bulbasaur.

>>383409489
Bulbasaur. Better dead than red.

>>383414068

And in OP's hypothetical situation, there's no Squirtle

So what the fuck is Blue going to pick once you take charmander?

>>383414060
Yeah but the first few gyms were a joke with Bulbasaur.

>>383413237

>Alternate between Bulbasaur and Charmander. Former is more useful in game but I prefer the latter
>Cyndaquil for in game, Totadile for competitive
>Treecko
>Chimchar
>Snivy
>Froakie
>Rowlet.

>>383412973
Hitmonchan, and teach it Mega Punch, Ice Punch, Fire Punch and Thunder Punch!

>>383414068
I assume they were going by OP's rule that Squirtle isn't available as a choice. I'm assuming that rule is also extended to Blue.

>>383414285

>Using elemental punches in gen 1

???

>>383413237
>charmander
>cyndaquil
>torchic
>chimchar
>oshawott
>froakie
>popplio

I wonder if they'll ever make a grass starter that's not shit

>>383413237
>Squirtle
>Feraligatr
>Mudkip
>Turtwig
>Oshawott
>Fennekin
>Litten

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>>383414068
FOR FUCKS SAKE
READ THE OP
SQUIRTLE IS NOT AVAILABLE
HOW CAN GARY PICK SQUIRTLE IF IT IS NOT AVAILABLE
IS HE GOING TO TO USE A ROCK AND JUST CALL IT SQUIRTLE OUT OF DESPERATION?
IS HE GOING TO PRETEND THAT HE HAS AN INVISIBLE SQUIRTLE?
IS HE GOING TO DEVELOP A TRAUMA OUT OF THIS ORDEAL AND START DRESSING UP AS A SQUIRTLE, SUCKING TRAINERS OFF IN THE RESTROOMS OF POKEMON CENTERS?

FUCK YOU
DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ALWAYS PICK
YOU ALWAYS PICK THE OPPOSITE OF NOT BEING A DOUBLE FAGGOT

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>>383414326
>Picking anything but the coolest sounding moves in gen 1
If you don't think elemental punches are cool you're a fucking retard.

>>383414326
why not

>not catching 3 caterpies and 3 pidgeys and spamming string shot/sand attack
Fucking scrubs

>>383414326
did it really fucking matter? we were all 10

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>>383409489

>Pick what ever.
>Go to victory road and catch a mankey
>Put starter in box entire game.

In Gen 2 i did the same thing but with Phanphy.

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Bench those homos once I catch my Mankey then start levelling Geodude to be my main pokemon once I get him

>>383413237
>charmander edgy
>cyndaquil edgy
>torchic fagedgy

all fire and fuck it whatever edgyness,also didnt play after gba,fuck this shit got real old 3 times same game reskinned

>>383414680
Yeah seriously. All these try hard posts, when in reality most people just used a strong STAB like earthquake

>>383414538
The implication is that squirtle is not available for YOU

Was Dugtrio the best gen 1? Stab Earthquake, outspeeds 99% of pokemon and immune to electric

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>>383415113
NO IT ISN'T
YOU'RE JUST READING BULLSHIT INTO THE OP
"SQUIRTLE ISN'T AVAILABLE"
END OF FUCKING STORY

>>383415196
I always caught one.

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bulbasaur.

>>383415196
Rhydon was more common than Dugtrio I believe

Rhydon, Alakazam, Squirtle, Chansey, Gengar, Snorlax were all some of the most common. I'm sure there were more that I'm missing

Bulbasaur. Charmander is for shitters/mindless bandwagoners

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What would you say was the most forgettable gen 1 pokemon?

>>383415625
I forget which one.

>>383415625
Lickitung?

>>383415625
Lickitung

>>383410386
>Gimping yourself
Not him, but complaining about gimping yourself in a Pokemon game is as bad as smashfags insisting that they need a two-frame advantage in their party game.

Unless you're going to multiplayer competitive, a level 99 rattata could stomp the whole game. Most people playing through it get Mew anyway, so how could you possibly "gimp yourself" in a pokemon game? You put everything into the box and release it? Because that's the only true way to gimp yourself in Pokemon.

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>>383415625
not gen 1 but this

>>383415625
Eggsecutor
Can't even spell his name

>>383409489
Bulbasaur because that's what I picked the very first time I played pokemon blue when I was like 9

>implying Squirtle (or any water type) is worth choosing as a starter

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>>383415982
No one remembers this one.

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Gen II Geodude was an unexpected bro

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>>383413476
>>383414085
Pokemon Topaz

did garys raticate died

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>>383415846
>>383415853
how do you forget licktung?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

How is Bulbasaur easy mode? It's easily the one that becomes the most useless later in the game

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>>383416260

>>383416236
he was my first shiny

>party is permanently behind on levels
>grinding is insanely boring without a speed button
>get swept by that goddamn kingdra/dragonite/whatever as a result

>>383416420
It levels up faster than the other starters and evolves quicker. It also trivializes the beginning of the game, i.e. the "hardest" part of pokemon games.

bulbasaur > squirtle > charmander
ivysaur > charmeleon > wartortle
charizard > blastoise > venusaur

>>383416420
>Good against Brock
>Good against Misty
>Poison Attacks
>Able to withstand Lt Surge and Erika

By the time you get Sabrina you'll probably have other Pokemon to put up with her.

>>383413237
Bulbasaur
Chikorita
Treecko
Turtwig
Snivy/Oshawott
Chespin
Popplio
For some reason i never like the fire types except cyndaquil

>>383416420
bulbasaur eases you past the first 2 gyms (i.e. the 2 hardest).

Once you are past them, there are lots of other options to use.

>>383413237
Squirrel was my first starter ever, but I chose Charmander from there on.
Cyndaquil is my usual choice, but invest the E4 for the first time with Feraligatr
Blaziken
Infernape
Otterfuckface
Chespin
Rowlet

Extra: for XD I pick Jolteon, for Colliseum it's the Cyndaquil line, and for PMD it's Cubone/Psyduck, Shinx/Skitty, Cyndaquil/Snivy, and Cyndaquil/Squirtle

>>383410752
Bulbasaur and Squirtle were easy mode.

>>383413090
>Hitmonlee for elemental punches
>The one who doesn't punch
>For elemental punches

You dense normie.

>>383416420
>play gen 1
>get leech seed
>teach toxic
>leech seed activates toxic's counter because gen1 is a mess
>both their damage grow even faster and you recover more as well because of it
literally immortal

>>383413237
>Squirtle
>Cyndaquill
>Mudkip
>Chimchar
>Snivy/Oshawott
>Fennekin w/Squirtle
>Rowlett

Honestly, for Gen 4 and 7 I would rather just use a Route 1 Pokemon but thats hard to do.

>>383415240
How does it feel to be autistic AND wrong?

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>>383417003
I hoped nobody would notice my fuck up or simply ignore it, thanks a lot.

>>383409489

bulb.

Charamander was a fucking meme.

>>383417142
OP here, he is right actually.

He may be autistic too though.

>>383417003
The Hitmon line shares their movepool thanks to Tyrogue. They can all learn punches and Rapid Spin.

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>fatass dinosaur
>fatass turtle
>badass fire breathing lizard that turns into a flying dragon

hmmmmmm I wonder which I should pick

>>383417268
>dragon

No dragon typing.

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>>383417253
Nah mate, I just like to blow up on people over trivial bullshit. It's funny to me.

>>383417379
Yeah and there's no dinosaur or turtle type either

>>383417193
You're welcome.

>>383417257
We're discussing Gen 1, this is not a relevant point in this discussion.

>>383413237
>Squirtle
>Chikorita
>Torchic
>Chimchar
>Oshawott
>skipped entirety of Gen 6
>Rowlett
I never understood why someone would box a starter, either (at least for a normal non-speedrun or challenge playthrough).

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Why did they swap venomoth and butterfree around?

>>383417574
Because gamefreak is incompetent.

>>383417253
Actual OP here, ignore this idiot

>>383413237
You are the fucking man, you know it?

>>383415196
It also had Slash, didn't it? And the chances of critical hits were calculated off the speed.

>>383417489
Rock and Water, respectively. Unless the turtle is a tortoise.

>>383409489
Squirtle isn't even my 2nd choice.

Charmander every time.

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>>383415625
Venomoth.

I'd say Cloyster, but people remember it for looking like a vagina.

I want to fuck bulbasaur's bulb

>>383417803
Not only that, but Slash is broken in that it's practically a guaranteed crit anyway. I forget the percentage chance, but it's very high. On something as fast as Dugrtrio, it's over 95%.

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>>383417830
Also Shellder is cute

>>383417803
Yeah, but it was better on Persian, as he had STAB

>>383417975
Sure, it's still a great move for Dugtrio.

>>383418049
yep

>>383417521
I was sharing some knowledge. It's interesting.

>>383409489
Suicide.

>>383417574
the first pokemon games were an absolute mess all over, they managed to make a really impressive thing on the gameboy but the game feels like it's aways one step away from breaking apart
don't know how the development of it went, but maybe it was really chaotic, the artist drew those mons but when they were coded into the game someone goofed

Bulbasaur. Toxic + Leech Seed in Gen 1 is just too good to pass.

>>383418082

I agree, though tbf anyone who didn't evolve their Tyrogue into Hitmontop was the worst type of paedophile.

>>383418156
The development of early pokemon games was such a mess that Iwata himself had to help them out. Which is why we can visit Kanto in G/S, he made that possible in the first place by cleaning up their mess.

Bulbasaur
Totodile
Treeko
Chimchar gen 4 has the best starter selection though so I like them all
Snivy
Froakie
Popplio

>>383417830
>>383417934
Cloyster also got a massive power boost in gen V thanks to shell smash, skill link and a buff to icicle spear

>>383418437
I always had trouble doing that. Hitmonlee is pretty cool though.

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>>383413237
Squirtle
Cyndaquil
Torchic
Chimchar
Snivy

That's all I've played, might get a hold of the others at some point though.

>>383413237
>Charmander
>Anything but Chikorita
>I just played this thing on emu and had 3 different saves, one per starter. I just like all of them.
>Chimchar
>Anything but Tepig
>Froakie (before you ask, no, it wasn't because of the anime faggots)
>Transgender seal. Had to restart until I got a female one because all my female Pokémon should look like such: females.
And yes it fuels my autism too.

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>>383419350
Has a pokemon ever been more redeemed by an added evolution?

>>383419969
Horse/Seadra -> Kingdra

>>383420193
I always hated Pokemon that involves trading to get it

>>383413765
You can also abuse the game by giving Venusaur both leech seed and toxic because they stack.

>>383420584
yeah, i had no friends either

>>383419969
Crobat's fuckin sexy. I catch a Zubat whenever I can now.

Who /waterpokemoneverytime/ here

Can't go wrong, besides we have Misty on our side

>>383420882
Misty a shit, Flannery and Erika a better.

Roxie a best. D O G A R S. Also Jessie, Pike Queen Lucy, and best boy James.

>>383420882
Only Gen II/IV Misty is good. Gen I/III is shit

>>383413669
exactly it's typing and move pool make it deadly. You could get alakazam but he dont have Surf, Ice Beam or Thunderbolt

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>>383421012
>Erika a better.
A man of taste.

>>383412314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI9IuBthnd4

>TEAM ROCKETS BLASTING OFF AGAAAAAAINNNN

Gen 1? Bulbasaur is fucking broken.

Gen 3? Charmander with the better coverage and lack of sneaky pebbles.

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>>383421012
>Flannery
good taste anon

>>383421435
>>383421885
Thank you.

If you're curious, my favorite types are Electric, Bug, Ghost, Poison, and Fire.

Whats the best non-pokemon pokemon game?

>>383422282
Pokémon Conquest

>>383422282
Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky.

Best non-mainline game too, tied with Gale of Darkness and Coliseum. I also recommend the pinball games.

>>383422282
Pokémon XD

>>383422282
Colosseum + XD for sure

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>>383409747
My nigga

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>>383422562
>XD

OUT

Why would I pick squirtle? I'd pick bulbasaur.

>>383419969

This nigga can use fly. This nigga is fast. This nigga can confuse. This nigga can use poison.

He is my nigga.

>>383412051
I'm a firefag but Empoleon is legitimately borderline game breaking. Last I remember, it has ridiculous defense and due to its type match up is weak to 3 or so types. I'll deal with the 2 shitty versions preceding for that anyday

>>383413237
Charmander
Cyndaquil (first one I ever got to lvl. 100)
Treeko
Piplup
Oshawatt
never played the last two because I got out of high school before they came out

>>383422491
>>383422562
>XD
>>>reddit

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>>383422734
I hope your save files get deleted by magnets

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>>383422917
>>383422734
>its another "redditors try too hard to fit in" episode

>>383413237
>Squirtle
>the fucking water croc i cant spell Never finished gen 2, hated it
>mudkip
>turtwig
>Snivy
>Chespin Also didnt beat
>Rowlet yet to beat

Picking fire ever is objectively shit taste. Except maybe cyndaquil. He's okay, but he can't stand up to the cock croc.

>>383422282
Robopon

>>383422930
I hope your batteries run dry on your R/B/Y/G/S/C games and you lose your childhood bros.

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These are the best Pokemon in gen 1, you might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>383425093
The only surprise is that exeggutor is higher than alakazam.
Though I do think that rhydon should be above golem.

>>383425093
dragonite is banned?

>>383425540
He's right below Sandslash for some reason. Number 20.
Only Mewtwo and Mew aren't counted in.

>>383414538
>FOR FUCKS SAKE
>READ THE OP
>SQUIRTLE IS NOT AVAILABLE
>HOW CAN GARY PICK SQUIRTLE IF IT IS NOT AVAILABLE
>IS HE GOING TO TO USE A ROCK AND JUST CALL IT SQUIRTLE OUT OF DESPERATION?
>IS HE GOING TO PRETEND THAT HE HAS AN INVISIBLE SQUIRTLE?

It doesn't matter. Gary Oak always wins. He will fuck you over no matter what. If squirtle is not a choice he will still get it because Prof. Oak is a pushover bitch.

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>>383409489
Grass > Fire > Water
Water > Fire > Grass
Water > Fire > Grass
Fire > Water > Grass
Grass > Water > Fire
Water > Grass > Fire
Fire > Grass > Water

>>383409747
>>383409827
>>383410069
>mfw using HP Fire HA Venusaur in Gen 5
Venusaur is the fucking best, averages out as being the best Gen 1 starter overall.

>>383426968
Is the last thing real?

>>383415625
Mr.Mime or Electec/Magmar

>>383425540
>>383425628
Do not forget the power of gen I Blizzard

>120 base power
>90% accuracy

Anything that learns Blizzard and is faster than Dragonite is liable to kill it in one hit. After knowing that, consider that Starmie and Jynx both meet that criteria and are 6th and 7th in usage.

>>383427085
Yes

>>383427085
All of it is real, but it doesn't mention that you need to keep the 3DS upside down while you get a level up.

>>383427085

Malamar

>>383426968
What's the random one based off of a personality value? I can think of what the rest are at least

>>383427085
Its the god damn squid thing from Gen 6, aka the worst gen.

>>383427456
Silcoon and Cascoon

>>383427456
Wurmple

>>383427208
danm I thought him having wrap would put him all the way up top

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>>383412076

>>383413436
How's vaporeon in gen 1?

>>383427669
Cloyster is better because clamp will hit Gengar, it lacks a 4x weakness and it gets explosion. Plus dat 180 base defence

>>383409489

I throw the game in the garbage and get almost any other gen game.

>>383428004
It's alright. No reason to use it over Lapras Slowbro or Starmie though.

>>383413237
always a fire starter