What's the best FE game?

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>>383385328
Heroes

>>383385328
the first one you played

>>383385328
Good Question.

I was thinking about downloading Seisen no Keihu or get Awakening. I like that the main character have kids, feel like a cool concept.

>>383385545
Get Fire Emblem 4 if you don't want time travel bullshit along with your kids. Better animation too

>>383385545
awakening is shit

>>383385328
You posted it
Alternatively, PoR

>>383385328
there really isn't any one that can be considered the best, they're too different. out of the ones I've played Conquest and Sacred Stones are the ones I liked the most

>>383385461
however this statement is pretty accurate for a lot of people I'd imagine

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>>383385328
For gameplay
Its Conquest
For story
Its Path of Radiance
For music
Its Radiant Dawn
For non-anime battle animations
It's Genealogy of Holy War
For anime battle animations
It's Sword of Seals
For shipfaggotry
It's Revelations
Depends on what you're looking for buddy.

>>383385461
not true

>>383385461
I played Awakening first and I'll have you know that after visiting some prior titles, I think it was the absolute worst.

>>383385328
Probably PoR. It has some of the best story, characters, music, and core gameplay, but it's difficulty is lacking compared to games like RD, NM, or Conquest.

>>383385328
Eshop when? Nintendo is retarded

>>383386010
Its difficulty is lacking because its probably the most balanced firm wang

>>383386183
Apart from Sothe and the laguz I would agree.

>>383386183
Do you have something you want to tell us?

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>>383385328
>Tellius will never be a trilogy
I mean it ended on a good note but still

>>383386183
PoR is easy because BEXP and the knights ward allows you to let your mounted units, Marica, and Jill break the game in half. It's by no means a balanced FE game.

The most balanced FE game is likely Conquest since every unit, other than Mozu, is viable.

>>383385328
PoR for me. The system was solid, as were a lot of the units and the story.
I also enjoyed RD a ton for nearly the same reasons, though I can admit the Dawn Brigade kind of slows the pace of the game.

>>383386253
>Magvel will continue to get nothing
you guys don't have it nearly as bad

>>383386253
What would they do for a trilogy, since it mostly ended peacefully after RD.
They could do a prequel with Gawain, or a mega-prequel with the four heroes, but the story is already sort of known there

>>383386253
I want a Tellius prequel. A game about Greil and him starting the Mercenaries. End it where PoR begins.

>>383386183
Its difficulty is lacking because it was piss-easy. The designers jammed BEXP in there without accounting for it, and it's retardedly easy to make juggernauts. Enemy quality is trash. Boyd/Ike/Marcia and half a dozen other units can solo entire platoons. Ike can solo the entire game

>>383386452
Nyx is shit, and it's generally debated whether Some say Shura's boots are better than him, and Arthur trails of after mid-game.

I'm tempted to say 8 or 9 are the best balanced but dunno if that's because they're not as difficult.

>>383386778
Nyx is great if you use DLC reclassing

Shura is a lategame prepromote, no shit he's going to be lackluster. But he's actually decent for a prepromote and has staff utility, making him far more than the likes of Nomah or Tauroneo

CQ has a very balanced cast and the majority of units are usable. It's just that the high difficulty of it makes even slight advantages between characters overwhelming

>>383385959
Pretty spot on.

I must be the only one in the world who likes Shadow Dragon the most.

>>383386778
Nyx is good for pair-up bonuses and can nostank early on with a good def pair-up (though not as well as Odin). She's also required for a few LTC strats and can be very useful if you promote her early on.

Shura is a good unit (he demolishes the ninja cave at base). The reason people say boots are better than him is because if you don't plan on using him, then the boots are more useful.

Arthur still has his pair-up bonuses and berserker crit strats. He's still useful.

>>383388136
I couldn't get into Shadow Dragon much. The design choice of making you kill your units to see everything was baffling.

>>383388461
if there is one thing you can like about the children stuff even if you don't like them is that gaiden chapters don't have ridiculous requirements anymore

>>383388136
I've tried to play SD and NM multiple times and just could not. The presentation is just so bad. It made me feel like my soul was being sucked out through a straw

>>383386452
>other than Mozu

Haha. Where did this meme come from?

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How are your tempest trials going?

>>383388461
>The design choice of making you kill your units to see everything
It's not to make you "see everything", it's for helping out players who really fucking suck at Fire Emblem so much that they'd get their entire army killed in every level.

>>383389207
stop

shut the fuck up about heroes

this is a fucking FE thread, not a gachashit thread

Awakening or Birthright.

>>383389307
the OP asked what the best FE game is, so it fits

>>383389323
Birthright

>>383389226
Then why not make the gaiden chapters an option you can select?

>>383389398
I'm the OP

take your gachashit out of my thread

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>>383389398

>>383389456
Wouldn't that just make the game easier?

>>383389323
What are you in the game for?
Awakening is better for story, post-game, shipping and kids. I think I do prefer Awakening's cast to BR's minus Orochi, and Oboro.
BR is harder, has more engaginge maps, and a hard mode that doesn't have same turn reinforcements (as far as I can remember).

>>383389586
It's optional difficulty. If they were mandatory, then it would make the game easier.

>>383389398
>Game created with the intent to scam
>Ever being best of anything

>>383389595
>Awakening is better for story

Awakening's story is shit.

>>383385461
This... is accurate, sadly. But Sacred Stones is great for many reasons, more than ust being my first.

>>383389665
>>383389543
>>383389536
it has better actual gameplay than any of the mainline games

>>383389876
And Fates's story is honestly worse than that, which is surprising

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>>383389947

>>383389876
Gangrel and Walhart, and future past dlc arcs are fine, it's only the final sub-section that really shits the bed, but still better than BR. I am still mad about Kaze's A support

>>383389876
awakening's story is fine. In fact, I'd even call it good for FE. It follows the "bad kingdom invades good kingdom, also dragons" plot, but the time-traveling stuff is actually done well.

>>383389947
fuck off

>>383390127
>>383390059
it's a shame that it's behind gacha garbage but my claim is legit

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>>383385328

>>383386778
>Nyx is shit
>t. doesn't experiment

>Shura's boots are better than him
If you don't plan on using him then boots are certainly the better, but if you use him he can serve as a great debuff unit against enemies when equipped with setsuna's weapon

>Arthur trails of after mid-game
He gets rally str and is a great back up unit

Radiant Dawn. I was surprised just how much I enjoyed it. I didn't think it could top PoR.

>>383390505
PoR sucks tho

>>383390537
epique

>>383389456
What?

>>383390732
After clearing the chapter before the gaiden one, you have the option of going to the Gaiden chapter. I believe they did this in some of the GBA games.

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>>383385328
New Mystery

>>383389876
First arc is good but feels rushed, second arc is eh, then it falls apart. Grima really needed more explanation in Awakening. Shadows explain some, but more would be good

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Genealogy of the fucking Holy War
>Based Villains
>Based NPCs
>Based heroes
>Amazing music (Fucking Doors of Destiny anyone?)
>Gargantuan maps that are generally designed well
I can't wait for my based Goddess of Thunder to come to Heroes

>>383386253
>Tellius 3rd game

Juding by how Ike is treated, by the 3rd game he would be worshiped as a religion and could solo the game.

>>383390858
I felt like the second arc could have made for a pretty cool separate game. maybe have a part where you choose a side

>>383390848
>some

So FE7 is apparently multiple games now?

>Only hero for the Tempest I have is Alm
>He's fucking useless compared to Eldigan
Hold me

>>383390858
Awakening's world and lore could easily benefit from having a prequel/sequel to expand on certain aspects, but I'm so sick of seeing Awakening at this point that I just want to get away from it for a while

>>383391145
they did this in FE6 also

>>383391145
It happens in FE6 and 7. There's only 1 Gaiden chapter in Sacred Stones, and it's mandatory

>>383391145
Well, I said some since I know it was in FE7, but I forgot the other one.

>>383391227
>>383391252
These are right, thank you.

>>383391227
>>383391252
Not him but I'm pretty sure FE6 doesn't give you a choice, it either takes you there or doesn't depending on if you met the requirements to go.

>>383385959
I prefer genealogy's OST in spite of its SNES soundchip quality. RD is a great choice, though.

>>383391227
No they didn't. They just made FE6's gaiden objectives relatively easy and harmless to fuck up.
Well, except for "Keep Lilina alive". What kind of moron would let her die when she could solo the entire game after a bit of raising up...

>>383391331
Ah, that's right. It forces you right into the Gaiden chapter if you did the requirements, my bad. So yeah, the choice only happens in 7

>>383391331
oh please, you act like the choice is meaningful in any way

nobody ever turns it down

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>>383391338
>Doors of Destiny
>Army of Verdane
>Eldigan, the Lionheart
>Dance in the Sky
>Vs. Arvis
Genealogy is so fucking full of amazing tracks

>>383391418
*sigh* As long as you're not projecting FE7, 9 or 13 as the entire goddamn franchise, I guess.

>>383388136
You'd probably love New Mystery since it is simply straight up better in most areas of game design. You do have to overlook the MU but I don't think they drag the experience down that much.

>>383391646
>*action*
I'm not the one you are having a conversation with but you can fuck right off out of here

>play echoes on hard after playing heroes
>literally braindead easy just a huge slog on later levels
>mobile game requires more thought

>>383391718
>it is simply straight up better in most areas of game design
No, FE3 was. Both games are just stealing maps from FE3. The difference is that FE11 doesn't make me cringe playing it.

So which game did the Children mechanic better, Awakening or Genealogy? Which one had the best children, and which one handled it best
>But where is Fates
Good joke

>>383391515
based on SoV's OST do you think they could do those songs justice in a remake?

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>>383391646
>a post stating that some of the GBA games do something projects that the entire franchise does it
>*action*

>>383391435
See >>383389456
The original point of the discussion was the idea that the game should give you such a choice to begin with.

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Just got 6 and 7. Should I play them in the order of the story, or by release?

>>383391349
>FE6's gaiden objectives relatively easy and harmless to fuck up
The turn limit ones are literally bullshit since you have no way of knowing before hand.

>>383390871
>Have pretty evil parents, and grandfather.
>BF gets corrupted and turned evil, won't stop threatening your bodyguard until he has to leave.
>Decently cool brother who ends up getting killed in battle.
>Have to pick between an unquestionably evil army, or the army that killed your family.
>Only way out is suicide by Seliph

>>383391881
I would say so, I never liked the old recruitment theme, but they did a great job of it in echoes
https://youtu.be/aCwyKtvqARw?t=3016

>>383391891
>>383391749
Oh no, I used *action*. That means I must be le ebul Rebbit Tumblr cancer badperson and must be purged in the name of the 4chan Empire. I'll just excuse myself to commit suicide then, if it's fine with you almighty anon overlords.

>>383391810
Echoes is one of the worst games in the franchise, but you wouldn't know that nuFEshitter

>>383391515
Don't forget the remix of all of the map themes at the end of Chapter 5. That shit got to me a little the first time I played.

The desert of Yied is also great.

>>383391936
7 then 6 definitely

>>383392009
What the fuck does doing *action* do about le epic boogeymen?
It means you're fucking gay.

>>383391941
>you have no way of knowing before hand.
And that's a flaw? Just about every game has bullshit it doesn't warn you about beforehand in it.

>>383392017
are you trying to imply all older fe games are harder? because they're not i just used echoes as a example because i played it around same time i was playing heroes

>>383391881
God, I fucking hope so. I would KILL to hear Doors of Destiny remastered.
But the reality is that we probably won't get a Jugdral remake simply because of how integral things like incest are to the plot. You can't rewrite that without obliterating the story entirely, although they could just remove the more sidelined instances, like Eldigan and Lachesis.

Anyone not like how easy the new Tempest Trials are? I can clear it pretty consistently with just my B team. I think I preferred the old system.

>>383391936
If this is your first time with Fire Emblem, I'd say 7 then 6. If not, then do 6 before 7.

>>383392108
so you've never actually played real FE games, and no, ez modo doesn't count

this is my last (you), not going to bother any more. Take your gachashit out of my fucking thread. Go to /feg/ they love that garbage

>>383385959
>Conquest
>For gameplay
>either pray to RNGesus for good stats lvl up on earlier chapters or expect to cheese every map from Chap 19 onwards
>this somehow makes it the best gameplay wise

Fuck that shit, I almost dropped it when I reached the Endless Stairway chapter and I never do that no matter how shitty the game is.

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>>383391987
Being Ishtar is suffering. Her mother is a manipulative, murderous cunt, her father is a weak man who allowed his sister to be tortured to death, her boyfriend is nothing more than the vessel for a dark god with a very jealous streak.

>>383391941
>since you have no way of knowing before hand.
that's how gaiden chapters worked back then. it brought gems such as "grind the refresher to level 7 before Lyn's story is done", "kill this high evasion guy that leaves after one round of combat or at turn 13 if you don't kill the boss in a gaiden chapter", and "get 700 exp in a desert FoW chapter with an overpowered sage running about"

>>383392009
don't let the door hit you on the way out

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>>383386567
I could see that. What would the conflict even be? Who would be the main antagonist?

>>383392309
you're delusional grandpa go back and play those games they aren't as hard as you think retard

>>383391868
>Ignoring all of the QoL improvements NM provides along with the pretty good Gaiden maps because Kris is a faggot.
I mean, I'm not sure I can blame you, but I don't think you're being entirely fair to NM either.

>>383392095
Yes. The Gaiden chapters were bullshit in 6 and 7.

>>383392331
haha what the fuck

how bad are you

complaining about RNG is what dumbasses do

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>>383392017
>Tfw spent overall 90 hours in my first Echoes playthrough
>Tfw I knew the gameplay was bad but still loved every hour I put into it
>Tfw can't wait for the FE6/FE7 Remakes
The one thing I don't understand is how in the fuck did people immediately want to do a new run as soon as they beat the game?
Like are you seriously going to run a new game because of how you want to make the villagers this time? Or because you want to recruit Sonya instead of Deen this time?
I just didn't get it I put 95 hours into my save and then that was good for me and I'm happy that I bought it.

>Got bored with Echoes so quickly I just rushed to the end
>The only really interesting bit was the fact that rather than being some amalgamation of Medeus and Loptyr, Grima was made in a fucking lab

>>383392438
To be fair, that last one is only FoW in hard mode.

>>383392581
>The one thing I don't understand is how in the fuck did people immediately want to do a new run as soon as they beat the game?
I felt that way the moment I beat PoR for the first time

I've also replayed multiple FE games including Conquest twice, FE7 3x, FE8 2x, and RD 2x

I've literally never gotten the urge to replay Echoes and I never will

>>383392538
>QoL
What?
>pretty good Gaiden maps
Except the Gaiden maps are terrible and overly gimmicky, and the Prologues are an overly long slog that ruin the tone FE3 was going for.

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>Consistent growth rates
>No hit chance or random crits, specials
>More content than older FE games
>All while being FREE
So why should we hate this game again?

>>383392542
I've played every mainline FE and I never felt this frustrated, yes RNG plays a big part in it, I got shitty units as a result with the exception of Kamui and Jakob which I ended up abusing by pairing them up starting at the Windtribe chapter.

>>383392703
Why do you even care about FE13's stupid villain? I'd rather he be as far away as possible from actual FE lore, anyways.

>>383392921
I enjoy it. Not a fan of continually getting Palla, Donnel and Gunter, though

>>383392267

Appreciated; I bought 7 day one back when FUCKING GAMESTOP was still known as Babbage's around these parts, so I'll start with 6

>>383392996
Because the idea that he's some combination of previous villains makes it a little more interesting.

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>>383386554
>They could do a prequel with Gawain, or a mega-prequel with the four heroes,
As someone who has played Radiant Dawn and Path of Radiance only ones who are the 4 heroes again?

>>383392728
ah, I'm playing FE7 on HHM right now so I forgot about that. getting real sick of this FoW stuff though I gotta say.

>>383392982
You found the game difficult because it's ball-bustingly difficult. RNG has nothing to do with it - at least, RNG matters as much as it did in any game before.

>>383392376
It's revelead in 5's first Cyas chapter that he used to be okay before Manfroy gave him the book of lopt which possessed and corrupted him.

>>383393165
Atlina, Lehran, Soanne, and Dheginsea.

>>383386554
I imagine it would involve Tauroneo, Zelgius, Fiona's dad, Bryce, and young Caineghis, but no idea beyond that

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>>383385328
Why is the final boss in this game so bullshit?
I can never manage to beat her without losing a few units because she can just nuke them from full health from anywhere on the map.

>>383393146
No it doesn't. Grima doesn't fucking deserve to be associated with Medeus or Loptous.

>>383393328
That was when he was what, 5 years old? He's been Loptyr for the vast majority of his life

>>383393351
FE can't into final boss balance. they're all either stupid easy or annoyingly difficult

>>383392870

>he isn't aware of the hot new reddit lingo

are you even internet, anon?

>>383393383
That's your opinion. I, for one like Grima, because he's the only villain to really win in any way, unless you count Arvis, who lost everything shortly afterwards.

>>383392982
If your units have on average stats then they should be fine.
You may just be bad at the game and you might rely on having higher stats than the enemy.

>>383392870
>QoL
>What?
quality of life

>>383393351
you have to kill her in 2 turns

her turn 1 attack is AOE you shouldn't die to

her 2nd turn attack is a snipe that can 1RKO shitty units like Gareth, so you have to kill her before then. It's not particularly hard using the pools and good units

I never got why people like Ashera so much

>>383392921
>Small maps
>Gatchashit
>X unit I like isn't in it/sucks
Not surprised it has split opinions. I like it tho.

>>383393696
Why the fuck would you ever use Gareth?

>>383393674

What's with this stupid ass term

It's quality of gameplay

>>383393849
Blood tide.

>>383393959
Then just use Ena. She at least has a resistance stat.

>>383385328
Conquest by a longshot

>>383393849
pool

you get free deployment, no reason not to use

>>383394036
I think they stack.

>>383392870
I'm not in the market to defend the prologue chapters, although it can be an interesting challenge on higher difficulties. I entirely disagree with you on the Gaiden chapters. There are plenty of Gaiden chapters with nothing I think you could rightly consider gimmicky, such as the ones with Wrys or those two Mercs from those BS Fire Emblem chapters (I think that is where they're from, at least.)

Even for those chapters which I could agree with you calling gimmicky, they are so short that I don't think the gimmick outstays it's welcome and can help provide an interesting challenge.

The quality of life changes you're questioning includes things like showing enemy range, battle calculations requiring less work on the players end and so on.

>>383394226
>those two Mercs from those BS Fire Emblem chapters (I think that is where they're from, at least.)
Play FE11. Now.

Why do people not like Echoes?

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>>383393165
>>383393328
>prequel with motherfucking Altina

all of my want

this motherfucking loli dual-wields Ragnell and Alondite

she could probably slap Ike's and BK's asses with her eyes closed

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>>383385328
7

but i havent played geneology which ive heard is purddy good

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>Zephiel sounds fucking crazy in Heroes
My man is a fucking lunatic, and it's amazing. You can hear him inching closer to the boiling point with every word
>You are like...an... infant. TAKE THAT ANY WAY THAT YOU WILL

>>383393183
Have you gotten to the Zephiel chapter yet? That one is a riot on hard mode.

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>>383394487
Genealogy has one of the best stories in the series, and arguably the best twist that everyone knows about these days
If only it wasn't Horse Emblem

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>>383392921
>Specials on a timer instead of skill/luck chance
Shadows did them by commands, do people prefer the current skills, Shadows style skills, or no skills at all
>>383394330
The maps are still some of the worse maps in the series, Enemy moving on the maps can cause issues, cantors

>>383393586
Ashnard and Sephiran both had their dreams achieved.

>>383394421
It sucks she was limited to only appearing on a title screen 50% of the time.
Also I always thought that picture had her riding Soanne into battle which was cool as fuck

>>383393183
Use the torch staff, and torch items when not doing anything else.

>>383394712

yeah ive heard just gotta like get around to it or some shit

>>383394746
Why are Palla and Est bullying Catria? It would make more sense for Palla and Catria to bully Est for getting captured

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>>383394330
because the maps are fucking awful
they also copy paste them which makes not only makes it worse but also comes of as lazy and reduces replay value of the game.

>>383394697
24 right now, I screwed up big time by thinking I could take his knights crest and now he dies before I can reach him. I'm sure Oswin will be able to handle anything thrown at me in the future

>>383395060
>I screwed up big time by thinking I could take his knights crest
referring to Wallace of course

>>383394330
lazy, repetitive maps
boring ass-story with boring characters
terrible class diversity

>>383385545

Awakening is pretty fun, so is FE4

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>>383395060
>Using Armours
I guess you are new to Fire Emblem.
Newbies always use armours.
Then they get better at the game and Armour become obsolete.

>>383394330

I don't hate it I think it's pretty cool. Plus it has fucking based Berkut

>>383385328

Pic related, or Path of Radiance

>>383395060
Which mode are you playing on EHM. ENM, HHM, or HNM?
Also Wallace has so many people who can recruit him, Kent, Sain, Lyn, Wil potentially Florina. Just rescue drop Lyn over with a flier, or attack the bridge snag with 2 range and have Kent/Sain charge up

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>>383385461
My first Fire Emblem was Tharcia 776.
I can't decide which FE is my favorite between FE6 and FE7. Echoes on third spot.

>>383395420
playing since the GBA days dude

>>383395585
>Based
>Loses his mind because he can't fathom that Alm is actually higher than him
>Sacrifices his GF for a bitchin lance

>>383385545
Genealogy and Awakening both have bad gameplay so it's a choice whichever games story and cast you like more.

This thread doesn't seem so bad, why is there currently another thread saying the FE fanbase is one of the worst?

>>383385461
>Awakening
>Fates
>Genealogy
>7
>6
>Heroes
>8
Fuck I hate Fates

>>383395734
>Still using armours
O-oh.

>>383395740

Well it was a pretty bitchin lance. Who wouldn't want that?

>>383385428
fpbp

>>38339593
HHM,maybe Sain could do it but I'm not so sure. Wallace dies really,really fast from those far ranged attacks

>>383395727
>first FE was Thracia
Why the fuck, that should be one of the last ones to play and certainly never the first

>>383385675
Didn't expect somebody to actually give the right answer.

>>383396051
I'm just saying, he ain't based. He's an asshole who got a kickass lance for sacrificing his waifu

>>383394746
I preferred the Shadows style

>>383396125
B-but It was a gift from grandma still managed to beat it though

>>383396172

I honestly don't care about that stupid bitch of his. Just his regal personality and his power

>>383395828
because people in this thread actually have taste

normally there's dozens of Echoesfags or Awakeningcucks shitting up the thread

>>383394301
I'll be, they are from the base game. That was just me being retarded. But yeah, I dropped Shadow Dragon years ago. I will pick it up again eventually.

>>383396417
You're not helping...

>>383396417
I have no problem with Awakening. Sure, it made waifupandering worse, and the story wasn't fantastic, but I still liked it.
Except for the bullshit that is the first few L+ chapters.

>>383396295
But it's Japan only
Are you Japanese anon?

>>383396307
That regal personality takes a hit when Alm continually beats his ass, though

>>383396417

And this thread was going so well too

When will Genealogy be remade?

>>383395875
It's the difference between casual and Low Turn Count playstyles, my man. Of course it's entirely Horse Emblem if you're aiming for efficiency.

>>383396697

When pigs fly

>>383396697
I don't see it happening, or at least not getting localized.

>>383396712
Yeah but even in normal play Armours are boring and un-fun.

>>383396559
Half

>>383396697
probably after 2 new main games

>>383396840
what's unfun about an unstoppable killing machine?

>>383396786
>Implying Americans care about incest after Game of Thrones

Come to think of it. The story of that game is a lot of GoT. But maybe showing the good guys getting slaughtered like dogs doesn't fit the new Nintendo bing bing wahoo image

>>383396697
When the FE5 remake becomes reality. So never.

>>383396697
After FE6.

>>383397005
>Unstoppable
Maybe in piss easy games like 7 and 8 but they are hardly unstoppable.
They are just boring because they promote turtling.

>>383397021
God damn, can you imagine the Belhalan or Yled massacre in a cutscene? Holy shit

>>383396697
If the director for echoes gets their way, at least not until 6 gets a remake. However, considering the fact you lose your entire army halfway through they may decide that it wouldn't sell to a mainstream audience and never remake it.

>>383396786

If it were to get remade they would either tone the difficulty down, or add in Naga's turnwheel

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>>383397372
4 isn't hard.
You have Sigurd.

>>383397372
The difficulty isn't the issue. There is a TON of taboo shit going on in Genealogy, and Americans are fucking prudes

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>>383397187
>not living in a world of DEF

>>383397568
>>383397372
>turnwheel

I hate this shit so much. You might as well play on casual

>>383397643
I like being able to actually move, thank you

>>383396786
the west would be the only way for it to get a good amount of cash to IS

>>383397643
Yes, I love it when enemies just ignore my units.

>>383397682
>actually dislikes the turnwheel

it's an amazing addition that needs to be in every future FE game

it's essential for a fucking RNG-based game. Haha I got crit' at 2% crit and 50% hit, time to restart the last 2 hours of my life

Turnwheel just needs a slight nerf so it doesn't hold infinite charges

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>>383395828
Every fanbase has shitters
>>383396697
They need to keep stuff like pursuit and the holy weapons they way they are
>>383397682
They should probably limit it to 1 or 2 uses

>>383392331
>being this much of a scrub
The Stairway chapter is joke on Hard (where you don't have fixed growths) you can easily complete it without letting the enemies move even once.

I bet people would love a 4 remake. It has their favorite mechanic. Shipping and kids!

>>383398287
aka cheesing, yes I did with Camila and Kamui WOW great gameplay.

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>>383398005
It's beyond obvious you have not played a single FE game

>>383398518
I've played ever game from FE6 to Fates with the exception of the DS games

try again

>>383385675
The patrician answer

>>383398753
I still like the DS battle save system of RNG screwage protection the most, felt nice having checkpoints, even if the chapters were pretty short in the DS remakes

>>383398508
You have to bring every unit at the top buddy.

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>Tfw trying to play Conquest as a huge Storyfag
How the fuck do you guys do this

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>>383385675
It's my favorite but it definitely needs changes. Make it so footed units get way more of a movement buff on paths so they can catch up with horse units, allow warping between controlled castles, and maybe add some indoors stages that force mounted units off their mounts, like FE3 or 5.

Still, even if it was remade exactly the same just like Echoes, I would buy it just for the redone music.

Also Arvis better be in Warriors, they need a villain character in the roster. The villain is going to be Walhart or Garon isn't it, why am I getting my hopes up?

>>383399439
That you selected.*

>>383385328
New Mystery

>>383399628
As a storyfag I loved the gameplay, but I just didn't fucking care enough to push myself to beat it. If the story was just generic like Birthright's it would be fine, but all of the characters are so retarded I don't want to see them win.

Iago is the true hero of Conquest. Fuck Corrin and Azura.

>>383399628
Find a buddy to play it with and mock the story. Alternatively, skip it.

>>383399661
>Game has mainly FE11-14 units.
>Surprised when there are no FE4 units.
Why are you people so stupid?

>>383399661
Outside of possibly DLC, the only characters in Warriors will be from Shadow Dragon, Awakening and Fates

>>383399628
>storyfag
so casual it hurts

>>383399628
Just make fun of it.

Or just drop it. There's no shame.

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Sure, Quan wasn't helping the whole issue with Thracia, but man. Travant was such a shithead

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>>383399817
>>383399831
>>383399862
>>383399916
I already beat birthright and found that be really enjoyable, I'm loving the gameplay a lot more in Conquest though.
But as a fucking gigantic storyfag it's making this literally impossible to play through, can I just skip this and go on to Revelations already or do I NEED to finish Conquest to understand the story in Revelation completely?

>>383400167
If you're a storyfag, revelations will give you an stroke. Its gameplay is worse than Birthright's, just skip it.

>>383399628
>playing FE for the story
People do this?
At least Conquest is entertaining in its retardation, the old games have the most dry, boring and by the numbers writing imaginable.

>>383400167
>Revelation
Don't.

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why can't we return to sprites

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>>383400320
>If you're a storyfag, revelations will give you an stroke. Its gameplay is worse than Birthright's, just skip it.
>Gameplay worse than Birthright's
>Story worse than Conquest's
Your joking right? Please tell me you're just joking the fuck around

>>383388461
Just think of it as a bonus chapter for when you play Hard5+

>>383400482
Revelations is a shitshow. Don't bother

>>383400475
Because no developers do sprites anymore. They're all experienced in 3D modeling now instead. If you want sprites, you only have indie devs and fangame devs left.

>>383400475
You have to realize, they didn't have a choice but to make the animations really fluid, colorful, and eyecatching due to the poor lighting of the GBA. As shown in the DS and 3DS titles, they would have put in less effort if they could.

>>383400482
The theme of Fire Emblem Fates is "being worse than your predecessor". Conquest has worse story, Birthright has worse gameplay, and Revelations goes the extra mile to have worse of both at the same time.

RD no question. Best maps, characters, music and the difficulty is just right. Character availability is a shame but oh well.

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>>383400715
if a bunch of fat neckbeards can make 10/10 sprite art for their fanfiction crossover, I'm sure a million-dollar studio can find the talent

>>383400482
The story isn't as bad as Conquests, but the things that will get shown will make both Conquest's and Birthright's stories seem even more retarded.

Also it's a horridly balanced, gimmicky mess.

If you want to get spoiled: There was an invisible secret world this whole time that Azura knew about the whole time, and it is ruled by a invisible secret dragon that's secretly been controlling Garon and making Nohr and Hoshido fight for no reason. But you can't talk about the invisible world or you die,
even though there's so many ways around that, and even when in Conquest Azura brings Corrin to Valla, the invisible land, Azura acts like it's no big deal. So everything that happened and everyone that died in Conquest and Birthright was because of Azura purposefully not telling anyone about Valla.

Azura is the true fucking villain of the game.

>>383398005
No. Instead, put Rally Luck on one of the early classes, like an early Troubadour or something, giving you a tool to reduce or outright negate critical hits from happening to you as long as you think carefully. Hitrates are almost never a problem as long as you pay attention to who's going up against who and weapon triangle advantages.

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>>383385328
My favorite is Radiant Dawn because it was the first one I played and set the standard for what I expected in subsequent games.
I liked Echoes (really clean, nice package overall as a game) and PoR (great setting and unit balance except a few big hitters) but strongly disliked Fates (there was zero motivation for me to play aside from a challenge, if I ran into a roadblock I didn't feel like I needed to push through, I just put the game down) and kind of forgot about Awakening (except for a few select moments, but it wasn't terribly memorable).

>>383400475
I prefer the units to move during battle, not to stand in place.
It's too similar to pokemon and Pokemon animations are shit.

>>383401075
>Hitrates are almost never a problem
hahahaha. Are we even playing the same game?

>Rally luck
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were retarded

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>>383401014
Hidden Truths DLC shows his back story, which is every other Fire Emblem story of human and dragons,' dragons degrade and go crazy. Also, Lilith is Corrin's sister. She also knows of all of this, but never tells him.

>>383400990
Good sprites require an arm and a leg, which is to much effort

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>>383385328

>heroes can't be revived after they die in battle

>they are important for the story

>there isn't enough xp to level up each character

Why is this allowed?

>>383401605
>"hmm, my hitrate is kinda low against this guy. Oh, it's because i'm using a Lance against an Axe user! I'll just switch to a sword, or send in a unit with higher hit instead.
>"Huh, this guy has a 6% crit rate. Let me just use rally luck and turn it into a 2% crit rate. Oh, but this guy has a killer weapon and gets a 30% crit rate. Then, let me use rally luck and reduce it down, then send in a unit with high avoid to reduce the chances of a critical hit from happening, or send in a unit that he can't counter attack against."
There, was that so hard?

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>>383401758
He's pretty powerful in this form!

>>383401840
You're not meant to use every character, that's why there's a deployment limit you retard.

And almost all FE games let you get the units you've been using up to promoted level 20 without grinding. Beat the games next time before posting.

>>383401840
>heroes can't be revived after they die in battle
It means don't carelessly sacrifice people. If it really bothers you then play one of the games with Casual mode.

>they are important for the story
With the possible exception of Path of Radiance, that means they won't die and simply retreat.

>there isn't enough xp to level up each character
Because there's 30+ characters. That's like complaining that you can't viably raise every single Pokemon you catch during the main game.

Alternatively, just use the arenas to grind EXP if you need it that badly.

>>383402052
so new it hurts. The fact you think rally luck, the literally worst rally in the game, is worthwhile in any way, is painfully stupid

>>383392921
>mobile shit
>no actual gameplay
>requires you to pay 100 million dollars to get those 6 actually good characters

>>383394421
She doesn't dual-wield, though.
Even Tellius Recollections makes a nod to that, making Ike the second coming of Altina, with RD Zelgius' and RD Ike's profile.

>>383402516
It's good because it has the ability to tip rng in your favor by giving you +4 hit, avoid and dodge, but hey, keep complaining that the games give you no way to deal with rng in any way.

>>383385328

Radiant Dawn has nice level design and a good difficulty.

But you don't get attached to any of your characters because you're forced to play with a different army every chapter and later on almost every map.

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>>383402052
>high avoid unit
I'm 99% sure crits are rolled before hits are, and crits always hit. You would be better off using a high defense unit or a unit with high luck.

>>383401373
they already move in sprites though

actual movement in battle cutscenes ala Tellius just takes too fucking long. Those extra 1-2 seconds moving adds up to a ton of wasted time

GBA sprites are short and sweet

>>383402827
Plus the Act 4 maps aren't very good on the whole.

From what I've played:

Blazing Blade > Echoes > Sacred Stones > Shadow Dragon

I need to get around to playing most of the pre Awakening games. Does New Mystery clean up a lot of the problems Shadow Dragon had?

I wouldn't made more remakes in the vein of Echoes; fuck the maps in Gaiden though. I'm currently on the Act 4 Celica map with the chucklefuck casting that earthquake move every few turns.

>>383400990
>if a bunch of fat neckbeards can make 10/10 sprite art for their fanfiction crossover
I'm sure the eastern touhou fanbase is the epitome of this

>>383403128
Critical hits are always rolled AFTER a hit, except in maybe 1 or 2 games where this was changed.

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>>383403337
Looked it up on the wiki, turns out you're right. My mistake.

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>>383403218
This is still faster than most GBA animations.

>>383402827
RD's party switching gimmick made me care about a lot more units than PoR did. People like Lucia, Tauroneo, Geoffrey and other Crimean knights, Brom and Nephenee all got highlights in RD unlike PoR where you take their shit and bench them as soon as they join.

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>>383403736
Why is patty so fucking dogshit, Dew is better in every way.

>>383403736
it really isn't, the enemy's not countering

>>383403736
FE4/5 Sprites are my favorite.

>>383403750
>inb4 screeching Nephenee fans

It's nice to see someone else actually like the swapping armies in Radiant Dawn. Better to have a couple of complete shit characters like Lyre, Fiona etc. than having only 12 units ever get used across a playthrough

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>>383403838
Don't you insult the meme hat.

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>>383403873
Because it is an archer anon.

>>383403750
This is why I like Echoes. If you had all the same people on one army it would be all starting villagers and shit. But I'm using OG niggas like Jesse or Zeke I would have otherwise benched because I didn't need them.

>>383404114
Gaiden/Echoes definitely handled split armies/routes the best out of it, Sacred Stones, and Radiant Dawn.

>>383404103
thats...not really moving. Sword guy is literally doing the equivalent of the Mercenary sprite attack

>>383404302
Sacred Stones would be God tier of you played both routes.

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>>383404394
Actually if you watch when someone gets hit they get pushed back.
Unlike GBA sprites where no hit causes any reaction.
It's far too stiff.

>>383385461

But I started on Blazing Sword and in retrospect I think it's one of the weaker ones carried mostly by Hector and Lyn being great Lords.

Genealogy is #1.

>>383404615
that looks incredibly bad tho

they just get shifted back a bit, it looks utterly unnatural

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>>383403315
New Mystery has supports PoR Style(Based on maps deployed), more characters, gaiden chapters, talk function to show objectives, backstory and units that can join you in the barracks, and OG Mystery maps. The sprites for map and combat are the same and on hard and above, same turn reinforcements.

>>383404752
>Lyn
>Great Lord
She abandons her state after dragging it through war.

>>383403750
I loved the switching armies thing. Forced the player not to just get comfy with a set of units for the whole game and would occasionally shake it up and give you different ones or return old ones.

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>>383404806
That's fine then, stick to posting your RB something sprites.

Where's a safe place to get the FE4 rom?

>>383404858

I meant that both Hector and Lyn are characters who can easily become your best units, are Lord characters, and the fans love them.

>>383385328
It's a tie between Radiant Dawn and Path of Radiance

Path of Radiance is the only Fire Emblem game that had a story that actually intrigued me, other than maybe Shadows of Valentia. Main problem is that it suffers from a pretty serious lack of difficulty.
Radiant Dawn on the other hand has a great challenge. It's not the most balanced by any means, but the map design is great.
I'd probably really like Genealogy of the Holy War if I had the patience to play it.

>>383404615

Some of the criticals in Genealogy are actually really cool. Myrms get pretty cool animations. Units like Seliph and Leaf before promotion do some cool moves like jumping high into the air and crashing down on the enemy or doing a backflip and rushing the enemy.

>>383405106
>Lyn
>Best units
No
I'd dispute Hector but I don't think people in this thread know how to not turtle.

>>383405160
>SoV
>intriguing story

opinion discarded

>>383403838
Who did you make her father.
If it was anybody but Holyn or Lex then there's your problem.

>>383403934
Why would Nephenee fans screech over somebody saying they liked her having her own chapter?

Also the main fault of the army thing was Tormod, Vika and Muarim couldn't do anything in between 1-E and 4-4.

>>383403974
What are they saying?

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>>383405226
Berserkers are pretty fun as well.

>>383405312

Lyn is great if she consistently gains Strength. She'll have the Speed to double everything, high Skill, and gets a ranged option upon promotion.

>>383405427
I interpreted your post as saying she was bench juice in PoR, my mistake

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>>383405427
Patty is hitting on Ares and Daisy is complaining that Patty Oni-chan got to Ares first.
But I was playing Geneology of Fala.

>>383405049
I thought /feg/'s OP had a link to a mediafire download to it, but I couldn't find it.

Since emuparadise got nuked I don't think there's a real safe place to find it. Coolroms maybe? I've never used that site but heard it's fine.

If necessary I could make mediafire download for the untranslated rom for you.

>>383405562
Lyn is not great, she has base 2 defence and a 20% growth.
There are better options for sword users and the increased power vs Armours and Horses is not that good since FE7 America made effective bonuses x2 rather than x3.

>>383405637
Wasn't my post.

>>383405841
It's still enough to kill nomad troopers and valks which is mainly what she'll be doing.
I'm surprised that anon tried to hype her up without mentioning her biggest boon, she's forced most chapters so you don't have to worry about slots

>>383405562
>X unit is good if she gets RNG-blessed

whew lad

>>383406261
Valks appear in one map.
She is only forced on like 30% of the chapters.

I've never played a Fire Emblem game before and want to buy one for the 3ds. Which one would you nerds recommend?

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>>383406376
This!
Bartre is good if he always gets perfect level ups!

>>383406475
>She is only forced on like 30% of the chapters.
this fucking pissed me off to no end

Most of the chapters in HHM you only need to bring Hector, so I benched Eli/Lyn since I didn't feel like using them

Then sporadically they fucking force you to bring all 3 lords along, fucking over your team composition

Including the final chapter, all 3 lords are required

god fuck these nonsense party limits

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>>383406618

I'd say go with Awakening since that was my entry point too. You have the freedom to train in skirmishes, the story is reasonably long and there's a fair bit of aftergame. Just don't expect the objectives to complicate very much.

>>383406709
>Not having the crit backfire on him despite having only 12 luck.

>>383406618
For 3DS I'd say Awakening or Echoes would be the best one to start off.

Awakening has more units, supports, kids,
Echoes has more variety, strange new mechanics and segments, and the pinwheel to re-wind a turn.

>>383405368
It was mainly because of the characters, I'll admit the actual story isn't all that great. Still, you're not gonna convince me it's any worse than Fates.

>>383406618
Neither. Emulate one of the GBA games.

>>383407185
there was barely any characterization, the supports were the shittiest thing since RD. Genny can go the entire game without a single support if you picked Deen (which you should)

>>383407343
>GBA games
No, go for Tellius

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I beat this game the other day and I really liked it. I'm very aware of the gameplay flaws and how tedious it gets, but to me everything else feels top notch. The game is full voiced, the music is stellar, I liked the world building, the characters, really all of it except for fighting on the same maps over and over again.

7 is still best
It's a mediocre series though, FFT and LUCT are masterpieces and even the much less impressive FFT sequels are better than FE7. Just play those or advance wars instead.

I love fe fates, it's definitely my favorite.

>>383407873
Waifu or conquest?

>>383405753
coolroms gives you viruses, as of my highschool life.

Sure thing, please! But will I be able to get through without knowing any Japanese?

>>383408232
Alright give me a minute to set it up.

You're gonna want to use the Project Naga fan translation, you should be able to find it with a google search.

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Fire Emblem Thracia 776 is my favourite video game.

I'm currently playing through it for the ~30th time and recording a 0% growths warpless LTC run.

>>383408232
Alright here's the .zip I got from emuparadise before it got nuked. It has the untranslated rom, so you're gonna have to use the Project Naga fan translation and use a patching program like Lunar IPS to patch the rom.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/8dytc9qq9d8ymff/Fire_Emblem_-_Seisen_no_Keifu_%28Japan%29.zip

>>383385328
Fates. The story was good, kill yourselves.

>>383409107
>30th time

so this is the face of autism

>>383385461
but my first one was fire emblem 8

>>383409242
come on now, I love Fates, I played through all 3 routes (including Conquest 2x) and even I won't say the story was good

>>383399628
Master the art of self-insertion completely.

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>>383404615
I like the jugdral animations. Though I play with map animations in all games; those are also very good.

>>383409107
Dondon?
Also how far in are you?

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>>383409972
I'm just a no-name guy who likes Fire Emblem.
I'm at ch14. I've planned out all my deployments and have tactics for most chapters, just need to figure out how to optimize chapters 14 and 20 (I need to level Tina FE1-style).

>>383409781
Okay, maybe not good, but definitely not "worst written vomit inducing cringefest in the history of vidya" that /v/ likes to call it.

>>383410403
Why FE1 style, it's 0% growths but I thought they still get exp so you can promote and get the stat boost

>>383411130
In FE1 clerics gain a lot of exp from taking/dodging hits. In FE5 each class gains exp for any combat encounter and clerics in particular gain a significant amount each time. I'm using that mechanic to its utmost because without elite mode there isn't enough time to get Tina to promotion by chapter 22 and I absolutely need her to be promoted so can steal the boss' weapons after a magic boost. I should be able to complete chapter 22 in 3 turns (more if staves miss) if I can steal berserk to use on Reinhardt and steal the master lance so I can capture the boss.
So in chapter 14 I'm having her dodge javelins and in chapter 20 I think I need to get two mages to attack her each turn but to prevent them from capturing her I need to place units appropriately. And in order to get optimal deployment orders later on I can't field Lara in chapter 20, which makes it a lot more annoying.

>>383411130
Promoting her as fast as possible is very much needed as her skill makes stave uses with her scary.
And she is the only person who can use 2 very useful staves.

the one you hate with a fiery passion

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>Archers in Echoes have 5 fucking range
WHY DID THEY DO THIS
IS THIS SHIT WHY THE FUCK GAIDEN PEOPLE HATE GAIDEN SO MUCH
>Archers also counter at 1 range

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>>383408081
>Implying Conquest didn't have waifu's

>>383412603
Archers have shit stats and accuracy. most of the time to compensate. Just bait them with your archers.

>>383412736
Why didn't you post one of them then? All I see is the worst female FE character.

>>383403750

It's not really the character story itself but more the gameplay. It's like Ryu in Street Fighter, you're like damn I love to play that character and not Ken who is almost the same.

Its the same for me with the FE characters, I like to play with a few characters through a whole game.

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>>383406261
>she's forced most chapters so you don't have to worry about slots

I'm pretty sure she's only forced in 5 chapters... >Noble Lady of Caelin
Where she joins, and can hide in the corner.
>Dragon's Gate
She can sit around at the staring position without entering combat if you are a quck player, and if you are slow you can just have her be rescued by Oswin(who you probably parked there as a Merlinus guard)
>Kinship's Bond
She can just walk over to Rath, recruit him, then hide in the corner he came from.
>Unfulfilled Heart
You can just have Pent slay most Wyverns headed her way.
>Light
Lyn can once again easily be kept safe, the only threat is one specific Bolting Sage who you can essily dispatch.

Point is, Lyn is only forced very rarely, and she's very easy to keep out of Danger when she is, and since she's a terrible unit, you don't really need to train her either.


>>383405562
Even if she leveled str every level, she'd still be bad because she is a close combat unit with no durability whatsoever. But in reality, she doesn't gain strength consistently, and her Level 20 unpromoted stats are worse than Isadora's and HM Legault's bases. Also, until about level 13-15, she also trails Base HM Guy in all stats.

>>383413719

Hey didn't say I don't like it, just after playing through multiple times I mostly skip it so the character gameplay becomes the main part of the experience.

>FE7 introduced a promotion for thieves
>Only receive the promotion item after recruiting Jaffar

What are the odds of having a Matthew/Legault good enough to be worth using over Jaffar?