http://nypost.com/2017/07/08/were-l osing-a-whole-generation

>kyle smith of the nyp
this cunt will literally hate you even if the only thing you do in your life is breathing air, he's an insufferable faggot.

That's fine, video games won't judge me.

>young men get told we are pointless and should die and leave the world to the minorities and women
>young men retreat from the world in droves to live a life that they enjoy because the world doesn't want them
>get surprised when young men play video games all day long and enjoy life

>>383383871
Actually decent discussion thread material, so I went and made a pastebin for those disinclined to go to the nypost site.

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>feminism and casual sex tinder movement alienate an entire section of men
>retreat to just doing things that they enjoy
>get ridiculed for even that even though we were rejected to begin with
Its a lose/lose situation. We can't win.

>>383384843
I think the author has a point with how video games make it easier to forsake the world. I do think Smith is making a mistake by implying that video games cause this behavior, but is on the right track in saying video games enable it. I mean if someone asked me how to keep themselves entertained while they were shut in for months with broken legs, I'd suggest video games. By the same token, someone that doesn't want to interact with the world can just play vidya all day.

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>>383383871
>>383385047
Yet video-game addicts are engaged in a mass retreat from life. Men aged 21 to 30 worked 12 percent fewer hours in 2015 than in 2000. The percent of young men who worked zero weeks over the course of a year doubled in that period, to an alarming 15 percent. Those working hours were largely replaced by gaming, and fully 35 percent of young men now live with their parents or other close relatives, up from 23 percent in 2000. Their unemployment rate jumped by 10 percent.

Explain this, /v/.

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>>383385047
you're a gentlemen and a scholar.

>survey as sources
>generalizations

fucking terrible blog

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>>383385384
I can explain everything with pic related.

>>383385171
The only way to win is to not play at all. I'm not saying to kys, but stop worrying about the judgments of normos

>>383385384
>Men aged 21 to 30 worked 12 percent fewer hours in 2015 than in 2000. The percent of young men who worked zero weeks over the course of a year doubled in that period, to an alarming 15 percent. Those working hours were largely replaced by gaming, and fully 35 percent of young men now live with their parents or other close relatives, up from 23 percent in 2000. Their unemployment rate jumped by 10 percent.

source it up faggot.

>>383383871
Yes all nu males

>life is shit
>find a way to escape from it
>"NO NO COME BACK REEEEE"

Fucking normaltrash. Why would anyone willingly be part of a society that hates them?

>>383385384
Increased automation and globalisation reduce job opportunities for young men and the rewards for engaging with the debt-based economy are increasingly lacking.

Done.

>>383385384
>Yet video-game addicts are engaged in a mass retreat from life. Men aged 21 to 30 worked 12 percent fewer hours in 2015 than in 2000. The percent of young men who worked zero weeks over the course of a year doubled in that period, to an alarming 15 percent
Well desu that 15% means nothing when compared to the actual output of full time jobs has also decreased. Companies don't wanna pay for benefits so they just hire a bunch of part timers to fill the same positions

Why pay one guy 40 hours + benefits when you can just hire 2 guys at 20 hours with no benefits?

>>383385559
That was a quote from the article, but I forgot my meme arrow. I didn't see any sources listed in the article or in any footnotes though.

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>>383383871
>mfw soon to be wizard

>>383385384
I really don't see how he can jump to a causal relationship between the two. Unemployed people play video games. More unemployment means more people playing, since they're unemployed they live with their relatives. I see it more as being a result of unemployment rather than a cause.

>>383385559
You could just click the links

http://www.nber.org/papers/w23552.pdf

>>383385684
Its the same deal as women riding the cock carousel until their thirties then asking where have all the good men gone then they commit sudoku.

>>383383871
who fucking cares. better than grinding at a job all day. real life is shit

>>383385384
Does he compare those rates to females?
He also seems to ignore job shortages practically everywhere as a contributing factor.
In my case though he's completely right, I'm 26, literally never felt an impulse to get a girlfriend or talk to women aside from when I was 15 perhaps and I have no aspirations or desire for building a career.
I don't see any future where I'm not a wagecuck and honestly that's ok with me but I do feel defective.

ummm what about women!??!?

>>383383871
>A huge proportion of young men are simply dropping out of the workforce and becoming PlayStation’s willing slaves.
It's the other way around
Most of these people have been pushed out of the workforce
Our overpopulated post-industrial societies find themselves with way more people than they have jobs, and even there a ton of those jobs still remaining are useless service shit that could be done by a machine

>>383385171
Just keep doing what you enjoy doing and if they give you shit tell them to fuck off.

>>383385860
>Does he compare those rates to females?
Why would he? Females can do no wrong and are only put up on a pedestal and congratulated for everything. Same with minorities and immigrants.

modern western society doesn't really offer men all that much.

Women can still be relevant if they don't have a career. Men aren't loved or cared for simply for being born. Even if you are attractive you need a career if you want to be respected.

The videogames that men play are usually populated by other men which means you get to participate in ultra-competitive environments without being bound by societal rules.

I think what men probably need the most in life is a purpose. Women already have a purpose from the moment they were born.

>men work less hours it must be video games
>what if it's the gimped job market, mutilated economy, massive cost of useless college educations for shitty positions, gigantic number of baby boomers refusing to retire and holding jobs well into their fucking 80s so they can triple dip on retirement on social security out of greed, and just the fact that many people don't need to work as many hours to survive when they're not interested in making large amounts of money and can survive of 20-30 instead of 40+?
>no no it's definitely video games I know because I work for the New York Post

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Why should I engage in a society that hates me?

How do I get an actual career and a girl.

Feminists, globalists and the normalcuck slave race btfo. There's no point to anything and solitary hedonism is the best.

>>383385384
The numbers would be similar for women if being a single mother or being married and just sitting at home getting financed by your husband would be treated as "being unemployed". Male neets that sit at home playing videogames just do what many women do. It's just that for women that lifestyle is accepted and financed by other men.

>>383385860
>I don't see any future where I'm not a wagecuck
I think a big part of it that bit right there. No one wants to be stuck working forever, but the only viable alternative for most people is to just not work. If you can live in relative comfort by doing nothing, why work super hard for so little more? People aren't aware how easy it is to succeed, or how few years you actually need to work before you can retire if you plan on staying single (even less if you get married and never have kids). Very few people are given reasons to do anything like that other than being told it's what they're "supposed" to do, and who gives a shit about that?

>>383386097
For the career part its 90% who you know. If you're a shut in NEET like most of us thats simply not an option.

It's a perfectly fine transitional period where anxiety brought by incongruence of what society says and does is met by something that feels good and kind of makes sense. I mean why should one work for material stuff his whole life if the stimuli from it is basically the same as from playing a game and game even keeps you more engaged than real world stuff. And yeah overall the engagement from videogames far surpasses most of the real world stuff.

This can of course lead to a bad end but also a good end of a person diving straight into spirituality and discovering a path where one works not for shiny things but for the fulfillment of it and shiny things become a bonus. And videogames become a hobby.

>>383385860
>Does he compare those rates to females?

the surveys he's basing the data on show a sharp increase in the number of hours per week that men play video games between 2004 and 2017. However, there's no increase for women whatsoever. Women don't play vidya the way men do

>>383385384
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got video games?

>>383386172
Shut the fuck up, neet trash.

Getting a good job is so easy, it's fucking stupid.
1: Get a shitty job at Mcdonalds.
2: Talk to people, make friends, constantly put the word out you're looking for a better job
3: People tell you of a job that comes up
4: Make yourself look good and get it

You don't have a job because you don't want to have a job, you manchild.

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>>383386097
1. go into an industry with the highest demand and that has higher percentage of males.
2. if you're really want a wife go to russia, phillipines, vietnam, ethiopia or some poor fuck country and tell a girl you are an american and then marry her.

>>383386097
Have the right contacts. Be attractive.
Genuinely around 85% of positions are filed by contacts. if you are a neet and not a minority/woman you are fucked.

>>383385384

What proof is there it's video games and not for example making pointless threads on /v/?

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>>383386345
Why would a bunch of fags wasting their lives at mcdonalds know anything about a real job opportunity.

>dealing with women's bullshit (gossip, shitty personality traits) and risking being cheated on
>working a shitty job because of social pressure instead of the pay/personal achievement
>not enjoying some form of entertainement that you've loved since your younger days
FOH.
Personal improvement + enjoying the things you love is the only way to live. Not chasing shitty relationships or working because others will judge you.

>>383384843
>young men get told we are pointless and should die and leave the world to the minorities and women

[citation needed]

>>383383871
>Genuine life satisfaction is closely linked to the feelings of productivity we derive from doing jobs well and to the security of enduring close relationships, especially marriage.
So happiness is working and trying not to get divorced? No thanks

>>383385384
Because young men are becoming taboo in society and a number of them are opting out of social norms.

>>383386483
>try to go to college
>that will be 100k + tax + tip
>look for scholarships
>only for brown people
>look for jobs to pay for it
>jobs hire women and brown people before any normal man
Gee I wonder.

>>383386345
1: Get a shitty job at Mcdonalds.
2: Talk to people, make friends, constantly put the word out you're looking for a better job
3: Your manager hears
4: Get fired

>>383386345
Yes good goyium, slave away for your masters who make more in one paycheck than you make in your entire lifetime.

>>383383871
>What is natural selection
>What is flooded markets

>>383386097

Join the railway in Canada. You'll only work twice a week and make a six figure income. It's in Leafbux, obviously, but it beats working at Subway.

>>383386519
That feeling of productivity from doing jobs well is exactly what video games provide, and why they're so appealing, though.

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>>383386396
>if you are a neet and not a minority/woman you are fucked.

>>383386430
Not him, but just about amy mcdonalds employee can become a manager and management is the best thing you can have on your resume. It's probably better than a degree.

>>383386075
>>383386561
This!

https://nypost.com/2017/05/13/childish-men-are-to-blame-for-women-having-kids-late-in-life/

Stop blaming young men for everything and maybe good young men will start doing more and coming back to become part of a good society.

>>383386097
For career, there's a few options:
- Get a STEM or business degree. Pretty much guaranteed an office job. STEM almost always pays more but is harder.
- Join the military. Get a job with a defense contractor when you leave and enjoy a cushy civilian job doing exactly what you did before for more money and nice military and corporate benefits.
- Learn a trade. Good ones are plumbing, auto repair, and electrician because those are never going away. Welding is also good right now because there's not enough of them.

Now, getting hired is a process. If you lack experience, you'll probably spend at least 3 months applying for jobs. Potentially more or less, but that's pretty normal. You can start to do that before you actually finish your school/training so you have something lined up as soon you're ready.

Girl is another thing entirely.

Most of my game playing friends have gfs. And they smoke weed.

The reason I don't have a gf is cause I'm FUCKING UGLY so I got rejected in middle school and high school, so I didn't get socialized properly, so now as an adult I'm still FUCKING UGLY but also socially gimped.

You're just seeing more of the world than you would have in the 70s cause of the internet. The world has always rejected l ugly men. There's convicted murderers getting conjugal visits and Silicon Valley millennials with 100k jobs that can't get a date.

Kyle Smith is a faggot just like the rest of the journalist class.

>>383386638
Expecting a NEET with little to no social ability to begin with to magically become a manager is pretty presumptuous.

Who cares, chances are society drove those people away in the first place. They get no satisfaction from the real world so they do the next best thing.

>>383386575
If you actually believe this you need to leave the 4chan thought bubble once in a while

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http://youtu.be/8G9QIIvSpzE

What's a good job for a physically weak NEET?
I tried stuff that involved moving around outside but it was always temp work that never lasted and I'm pretty sure I'd actually kill myself if I had to do office drone work

>>383386736
Get fit, anon.
Even if you're a troll, you can find a shitskin GF that will be loyal to you.

He kind of has a point that being a NEET is harmful to everyone, but it's really stupid to single out video games when it's only one of many contributing factors to this.

>>383383871
If any of you goto that website without adblock you are why they wrote it.

Why should people care about a society that has time and time again fucked over young men? It is another article about boomers throwing a tantrum?

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>>383386483
umm, sweetie

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>Women usually don’t go for men who are less successful than they are
Here we fucking go again. Why the title of this article is not "Manchildren can't get pussies", we'll just trigger /v/ instantly and dodge this fake debate

>>383386738
I've had socially managers and assistant managers before, its not impossible

But isn't it a good thing that FUCKING WHITE MALES aren't breeding? Isn't this what they want? Why are they bitching?

>>383386285
Underrated post

Stop playing video games and start a career already. We don't do on-the-job training these days (we've thrown that cost over to college/university), so go take out loans for a degree. Put yourself into debt, and then maybe we'll consider you for an entry-level role maybe possibly if you're lucky and no one better applies maybe. There's no guarantee of course, but it's important that you join the rat race anyway.

Think of the women, won't you, /v/!? Who are they going to partner off with in life if so many of you men won't G R O W U P !? Professional women's dating pool is decreasing because so many younger men are playing video games; don't you feel guilty and ashamed?

I know video games make you happy, I know they're relatively inexpensive and can provide hours upon hours of entertainment, but stop playing video games.

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>tfw applied for jobs for an entire year and only got one company to reply
>"No"
>Applied for a gf for an entire life and only got no

>>383386842
There isn't any.

>>383386285
ok renton

https://youtu.be/Nf4uiRr78dU

>>383387059
This is my life.

I have a STEM degree.

>>383386285
>get a career so you'll live a happy life
>know people with careers and families that seem totally miserable

I don't think that being a wave-slave suddenly makes you happier. The moment you are born you are set up to fail and die eventually. Even if you are the most wealthy and happiest person in the world your body will wither and in the best case scenario you either die quickly through a bullet or pumped up with drugs in a hospital.

>>383383871
All this article basically comes down to is a shame attempt to get men working for the corporate Jew. He refuses to admit it, but grinding oneself down 12 hours a day in a job that hasn't seen a wage rise for a decade, all for the benefit of some lazy parasite who's just been granted yet another tax cut, isn't remotely "productive" or brings life satisfaction. On top of that, the thinly veiled exhortation to breed - in order to generate more consumer spending on children, all for the goal of creating more consumers to keep propping up this infinite growth ponzi scheme - isn't going to work when society is so shamelessly biased towards women.

The system itself is beyond repair. Men playing video games is just a symptom of a wider malaise, and the author's attack on the symptom is merely an attempt to keep the ailing patient alive. It's not going to work unless serious reform takes place.

Women around me need to start losing weight before I put the controller down desu.

>>383386754
>If you actually believe this you need to leave the 4chan thought bubble once in a while
And if you don't believe this I suggest you do the same thing
The same shit is happening in the entire western world
A few years ago the CEO of one of the biggest companies of my country said on TV that given choice they would hire "anything but white males"

>>383383871
Ok and where is the problem? This is exactly what feminists and liberals wanted no? So why are they now complaining about this too or is it not enough for us to drop out so they want us to go play sudoku as well.

i'm sure its vidya fault and not the society
>why you dont want a relationship?
>backstabbed 500x
>why dont you want to work for low salary 24/7 and being at fault of everything in the company even if it isn't your fault?
gee i wonder

>>383387134
College is becoming increasingly useless. Trades will make a comeback, and hilariously it'll still be mostly whites and Mexicans working those, becuase the blacks and women still don't want to do them, so when our current model collapses, they'll still be treated second class.

It's the beaners that are really going to win in the future.

>>383383871
>video gaems are bad mmk?
ah, the eternal meme

>nypost
but of course

>>383387043
There was actually an Atlantic thinkpiece that argued that the rise of video games means that people who really like them are legitimately capable of being happy with less, because it's just so cheap and efficient of a method of recreation.

You could then argue that the reason that professional women - 30-40 - are complaining about it is because, well, when they grew up, video games as a culture were more inhospitable towards them than it was towards men of the same age. It's not that there's no good men, it's just that they never picked up the habit for the cheap entertainment that lets them have something in common with these men.

>>383387231
Prove it

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Go to work, goyim.

>>383383871
Are they honestly saying a sizeable amount of men are becoming NEETs, and because of video games?

>>383386575

>join the army
>shoot some brown people, get out
>go to college
>uncle Sam pays all tuition in addition to giving me my sergeants pay for 3 years
>actually making money while going to school
>get all kinds of other financial aid because veterans benefits aren't taxable income, so I'm technically under the poverty line

Feels good. Sorry you don't know how the world works, feel free to retreat from the world that you refuse to understand though.

1. None of the numbers he listed specify video games as the cause. I suppose MAYBE something else might be the cause, such as, oh, I don't know, the Internet?

2. If you're going to be addicted to one game, why the fuck would it be Civilization?

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>>383387059
>barely functional social retard
>get a job because of connections
Degrees are a meme

>>383387476
I live in Canada, not burgerville

There are no jobs here.

>>383387410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLZD7xV582Y

>>383387351
>mostly whites and Mexicans working those
*robots

>>383387443
No, they're saying that a sizable amount of men are settling for less - lower-paying jobs, less ambitious career tracks, living in smaller or cheaper ways (or staying with their parents) and making up for it with entertainment from cheap videogames. Not exactly the same as being a NEET.

>>383387059
>>383387134
The only work I've gotten(which was a 2 month contract) was because my friend lied to his boss and told her I was a good worker.

If you don't have a wide social net you are fucked, that's all there is to it. The only reason to go to collage is to make friends with more successful people so in the future they might throw you a job your way.

>>383387351
>Trades will make a comeback

I have no degree and making 35 and hour. I top out at 50 in 3 years. feelsgoodman.jpg

>>383387491

Degrees are valuable because you meet people in school. That's probably the most powerful part of going to uni.

>>383387143
It's a quote from Trainspotters, anon.

>>383387491
This.

I know so many people who dropped out of fucking highschool and have cushy jobs. Just stop being a retard and learn how to talk to people and present yourself when you need to. Aka, be an adult.

That's fine, it's why we're importing fresh new young men from syria! I bet they'd be greatful for the opportunity to bang white women

n_n

>>383386754
Kill yourself, cuck.

>>383383871
i don't see the problem. the world is overpopulated so we don't need to be reproducing, and many entry level jobs are being replaced with automation. there's not a lot else to do.

>>383383871
Kys /pol/.

>>383387351
>college is becoming increasingly useless
>in a world where business and technology are constantly evolving

>>383383871
and we have lost an entire generation of young girls to hedonism

>>383387476
>join military
>get ptsd
>shaking like a retard as tyrone fucks your wife and makes you raise brown kids

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>>383383871
Jews.

>tfw more males are being blackpilled

best timeline.

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>WE DON'T NEED MEN ANY MORE
>WOMEN CAN DO THE SAME IF NOT BETTER JOBS THAN MEN
>Hiring preference for entry level college degree jobs is given to women, preventing men from earning valuable experience for jobs that require 5 years of relevant experience

>Okay then, I'm just going to play videogames and not worry about starting and supporting a family
>FUCKING MEN ARE RUINING THE ECONOMY
>GET A JOB AND FIND A WIFE YOU PIG

>>383387425
At this point, why aren't all white males MGTOW? Fuck this society.

why should i work soul destroying job and pay cuck taxes instead of being home enjoying videogames and have lot of spare time to do whatever i like?

>>383387516

Come to america, you don't need to be a citizen to join the army. They'll give you your citizenship after 3 years. Admittedly, you'll have to put up with fucking retards, but that's the price you pay. Land of opportunity.

>>383387601
Kys facefag

>>383385171
>casual sex marginalizes a huge section of the population because they are too ugly/shy/undesirable
>those people turn to porn for both sexual relief and artificial affection
>"Why porn is killing America"
Same deal, it's a symptom that people treat as an infection

>>383387680
You can't join the army without a green card, which requires a job to get. I've looked into this.

>>383387567
Im about to go to Uni,how to make connections?

>>383387526
Stay mad Tyrone soon Pablo will not only outnumber you but he'll be the one bulldozing your neighborhood while he and Juan will be the ones building their own on top of where your shitty one stood.

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>blame video games
>overlook a society where verifications mean jack shit because you didn't work for John Doe for 5+ years in college/trade school

>>383387620
Not him or even /pol/, but you first, libtard.

>>383387231
>go to pretty much job opening
>"we prefer applicants with a diverse background and culture :)"

>oh and 4 years relevant experience even though we advertised it as a entry level job

>>383387680
What are you doing? Don't invite leafs here.

>>383387640
This is actually pretty accurate.

>>383387532
But most people always had kinda shitty jobs purely to support themselves/their family.

>>383385384

Isn't this true of that entire age demographic?

>>383386483
Cnn.com
Vice.com
Msnbc.com
Huffingtonpost.com
Any gawker site
Etc.

>>383383871
It really says something about how much we have fallen, spiritually speaking, that our intelligentsia exhort us to work to death and fuck a bitch all for the goal of "life satisfaction". What is that? Pride in the work you did? Work is transient, even the pyramids some day will fall. That you had children? They'll die, as will you.

100 years ago, it was "Work, because work glorifies God and gets you closer to him". There was the wide spread belief that nothing in this world mattered at all, and all work and deeds done were merely a means to set you up for the life to come. That's why people had children, didn't divorce, had huge families were everyone had second hand clothing, didn't have any fun except singing in a Church, and generally lived physically harsh but very content lives.

Kyle here has achieved everything, yet has zero spirit, and that lack of spirit is causing him a nervous breakdown where he lashes out at everyone.

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>this thread

>>383387640
>join military
>sign up to be a infantry with no civilian transferable skills instead of some POG with a top secret clearance and 3-4 years of experience in a technical field

lmao

>>383387725

Talk to people in your classes, work on group projects, join clubs and organizations. Remember to be friendly, get contact information and stay in touch. It's simultaneously really easy and really hard. It's a whole field in business called "networking" not related to the computer kind.

>>383387725
just talk to everyone and kiss a lot of asses

>>383387872
What makes you think it's all niggers?

>>383387774
But now they are abandoning the family for video games. Which is only logical this day and age.

>>383387621
College in its current condition in the US at least is rapidly reaching a point where it's going to collapse. Most degrees are completely useless. Most things you learn from a 4 year degree could be taught in 2 max. You don't need to spend 2+ years doing random geography classes to become a computer technician or businessman, it's a fucked model and it's getting more and more cancerous.

>>383386126
>The best posts are never replied to

>>383387942
That was just the first fedora image I saw

>>383385047
Seems cut off at the end.

>Happiness is not to be confused with fleeting pleasures delivered by artificial, drug-like stimulants. Genuine life satisfaction is closely linked to the feelings of productivity we derive from doing jobs well and to the security of enduring close relationships, especially marriage.
Yeah he can go fuck himself. Implying I want that shit. It's the 21st century not the 60s anymore.

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>>383383871
logic dictates that if women were more appealing than video games this wouldn't be a problem. So whose the one getting BTFO here? sounds to me like pussy isn't put on a pedestal anymore

>>383387532

The primary reason to go for higher paying jobs was so that you could win a lover and provide for a family.

The difficulty of finding a willing partner in the modern age "How to approach a woman, Step 1: Don't" has reached the point where the idea of raising a family isn't in the minds of most men. Thus there is no need for excess money.

I found a cute boy to play vidya and cuddle with.

I'm straight and it's not as good as a girl but at least there isn't the bullshit.

>>383387725
Apparently the key is to join literally any club and be involved with it for a long time since it apparently demonstrates leadership skills.
Other than that I'm not sure.
I don't speak a word at uni and I've been here for 4 years, it's hell for me and I'm fucked.

>>383387476
For every timeline you made it big, there are a dozen where some sandnigger put a bullet or a piece of bomb shrapnel through your head, and you died alone and worthless in some shithole for the benefit of the Jew. Or you just came back a cripple for life missing limbs or your dick after blown up by towelhead bombs.

Just food for thought :^)

>>383387635
No one is ever going to say this point, that the reason why men won't marry is simply due to the saturated pussy market at one end of the scale and over inflated sexual worth at the other, which translated to Chad getting fucked every single day (thus never needing to marry) and betas never getting sex but still seeing Chad lay girls (thus being wary of marriage because all girls are sluts).

Women can do no wrong of course, so you'll never see this pointed out.

>>383387969
Fuck off kike

What are some jobs where I don't have to talk to anyone ever, and also it pays well and isn't hard?

>>383383871

>Surveys tell us that these men are happy. The 1990s fear that playing first-person shooter games turns you into a violent psycho has been debunked.

If a fake world makes them happy and they're able to sustain themselves, what's the problem? Perhaps the problem is with the real world.

>>383387774
That's absolutely true. With that in mind:
1. Maybe they're missing the fact that the shittier jobs have gotten shittier, and people can now only support themselves, not themselves and a family, on bad jobs. Alternately, it's possible that people desire more for their family, and want more stability / money before settling down than they did in the past.
2. The nypost article looks at a really specific cohort - 30-40 something professionals in New York - and it's possible that there's a real demographic shift among men in that age.

can somebody give me a summary what the article was about

>>383387718
>You can't join the army without a green card, which requires a job to get. I've looked into this.

I got a chinese faggot from class joining the army through some fucking program. My dad got recruited in the army while he lived in the phillipines. I knew mexicans and sudanese people joined the marines who were fresh off the boat. You didn't do your homework anon.

>>383388124
mail man

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>>383386345
>get job
>you are going to work 8 hours a day
>you need to be aviable 24/7 on phone , because every day we change your working hours
>that means you can finish at 24:00 and start at 7:00
>we will give you schedule at 22:00 or 24:00 depends if your boss is fucking the drug addict that fucks her or watching a movie
>free days? 2 peer week , sometimes we will inform you at 2am that tomorrow you wont be working
>oh , and everythings your fault
fun part of that job? i didn't shut up
if its your fault . its your fucking fault and i ain't shutting up , eat shit and get fucked
you ain't blaming me shit for your "partner" mistakes and i will bad-talk you like the piece of shit you are
unemployed , i gained 10kg thanks to anxiety on that job

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>>383383871
>We're losing a generation of men's taxes, alimony, and child support

they don't give a single fuck about this or any past generation of men.

>>383388223
>driving all day
No thanks

>>383387476
That plan kind of goes to shit if Ahmed gets a headshot and turns you into a drooling vegetable or a corpse. The wounded warriors are just sad man.

>>383388124
Everything requires you to usually talk with someone. Otherwise probably someone who works in a morgue

>>383383871
Good. Maybe shitty fucking parents will kill themselves in disgrace. It's their fault I am the way I am, no amount of good genes can change that and mine aren't bad.

>>383388145
Woman bitching

>>383387590
>Aka, be an adult.

Aka genetics and the environment you grew up in.

Here are factors that allow you to properly socialize and turn you into an "adult" that people want to interact with.

A: look at least normal. The moment you look weird your life in school will be a fucking shitshow and you'll constantly be reminded of your physical shortcomings that are completely out of your control

B: have parents that aren't complete shitheels that actually know how to raise a child. If you don't have parents then surrogate parents (bigger brothers, grandparents, aunts/uncle etc.).

C: don't have a mental illness that severally affects the way you see the world and the people around you. Even if you have A + B you'll be a social outcast if you can't talk to people without pissing yourself.

All of these things are out of your hand. That the way you are is somehow something you can consciously control is the biggest lie modern society will tell you. Who you are is heavily predetermined from the moment you were born.

>>383388124
Train conductor in my country starts at 2k euros and you'll reach 6k at the end. You're alone in a dark room pushing a button.

>>383388124
Night security guard

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>>383388071
What if i choke and end up like you? how do i salvage this

>>383388263
>driving a postal vehicle or walking a route in some areas is hard

>>383383871
Jesus whoever wrote that shit needs to go back to college and learn again. It's 10 paragraph of meaningless shit.

>fell for the work hard in college instead of joining clubs and fucking girls meme
1 year unemployed with a compsci degree.

>>383388042
Really, it's more or less socially unacceptable to approach anyone. I've done okay on dating sites, that said.

But you might be right about no need for excess money. I don't spend much on luxuries or achievement, and mostly just spend my excess money on treating friends or helping them out with trouble. ...Which is sort of like supporting a family, except with no commitment, I guess.

>>383388124
Network admin

>>383388321
>I'll put all my problems on something else, I have no personal responsibility for myself
Literally an SJW

>>383388109
>implying the kike doesn't survive on the wageslave population spending every waking second at work, pretending to be happy that their 12 year old daughter is fucking 17 year old Tyrone in your home you took out a loan for, knowing for every dollar you earn none of it actually belongs to you

is /v/ btfo? or is society being so shit that young men would rather escape into the world of video games btfo?

>>383388360
Do you have any friends?
I haven't had any friends since I was 16 so you're probably fine.

>>383388287
>make-up profession of corpses is extremely well paid
thats what i've been told

>>383388321
>There's nothing I can do about my faults! Can't you see it's out of my hands? Please give me a permission slip excusing me from normal society instead of making me sack up and work to improve myself!

>>383385384
>worked zero weeks

lol feels good man. salary man just jelly he has to sit at his shit job shitting out useless articles for 40 hrs a week

>>383385763
This so much. How can anyone call themselves a journalist and be this fucking stupid? As if people became unemployed on purpose in order to play video games... what an absolute moron.

>>383388321
>look like shit
>single mom
>family has mental illness history
dude...

>>383388241
>tfw more and more women are now feeling the sting of having to pay for alimony for their husbands

Gotta love equality.

>>383388360
College is full of nerds and weirdos that do well socially because they all hang out together. The only way to lose is to stay in your room all day. If you literally just walk around and show up to some club meetings that interest you, you're almost guaranteed to do fine.

>>383388594
I think the journalist is mostly just pearl-clutching over the fact that these unemployed men are happy.

>>383386217
>This can of course lead to a bad end but also a good end of a person diving straight into spirituality and discovering a path where one works not for shiny things but for the fulfillment of it and shiny things become a bonus. And videogames become a hobby.

Way ahead of most here.

>>383388321
Aka, not being a retard.
Stop blaming your parents. You don't have a mental condition, or a problem. You're fucking lazy.
The only problem is a society full of problem enabling retards who want to milk your for money so they classify everything as a real condition. 'waah I'm sad so I have clinical depression. aaah, i'm bad at talking to people, i have social anxiety'

Stop making fucking excuses. 2 out of those, everyone fucking gets, and 3, almost no one gets. You're not a victim of your upbringing, you're a victim of yourself. Grow up.

>>383383871
Fuck real life, games are better.

>>383387351
oh man NO black people work in trades? better let every man in my family know that what they do isnt work because skin color

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>>383388482
>started homeschooling in the 7th grade
>lost contact with all of my friends save one
>he bailed on me a few years later to become a Chad
>now the only people I talk to on the reg are two guys on Steam who are far, far away from me
>Don't even want IRL friends anymore because I'd have to spend time with them that would take away from my vidya time
I'm beyond saving

>>383388465
society will always get btfo when people aren't willing to participate, because it's our taxes that makes everything work

>>383388740
sorry that this thread sucks dude

>go to college
>get in a ton of debt
>work on campus for (((minimum wage)))
>budget gets cut for office, get let go
>start working security
>making decent cash
>would rather be doing this shit long term than actually going to college
>spend my work day shitposting on /v/ and playing dragon quest on my ds
>literally at work right now
getting a career is a scam

>>383388042
>The difficulty of finding a willing partner in the modern age "How to approach a woman, Step 1: Don't" has reached the point where the idea of raising a family isn't in the minds of most men. Thus there is no need for excess money.
I think reading a lot of the shit that gets posted here distorts your view of reality. Most women are not the Jezebel reading types that get posted in women hate threads and most men would be happy to start and support a family. The thing is that the current state of society gets in the way for a few reasons.

First, job opportunities, job security and wage growth are worse than ever, making the prospect of mortgages and supporting a family more daunting. A lot of men don't want to put their hypothetical families in a position where they're destitute and so either opt out entirely, or have to wait longer before they can begin. Second, the realities of modern living and the way both men and women are encouraged to work themselves to death combined results in men and women being increasingly alienated from each other and thus it's more difficult for people to meet and start a relationship. Dating sites and apps are supposed to be a fix for this, but they are just used as tools to further the "hook up culture" which obviously does not lead to meaningful, long lasting relationships and families.

>>383388753
Not gonna lie. As a NEET I now know why the blacks refuse to work and cash in on welfare.

>>383388742
join a club.

>>383383871
>"fuck white cis males, we'll show them!"
"wait, why are men dropping out of society and retreating into fantasies?"

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>>383386575
>be a worthless, stinky piece of shit
>don't get scholarship
>IT MUST BE BECAUSE I'M WHITE
>WHO ELSE CAN I BLAME FOR THIS BESIDE MYSELF?
>cry frustrated angry tears

>>383388145
Exactly what the title says. And a guy wrote the article.

>>383388891
That is my dream job. But you need the education and fitness for that in my country.

>>383388351
What degree do I need for a job like that? Is it comfy where you live?

>>383388930
What kind of club are you talking about? I'm not in college anymore.

>>383388980
>look for scholarships in high school
>out of like 2000 on the list I am eligible for 5
Canada sucks

>>383389004
Most security jobs don't need shit, just a couple of weeks of training.

>>383388753
>society pays taxes
>country wastes 90% of it on bombing 3rd world mud huts

muh terrorism

>>383388712
>you have cancerl? get better man
this is how you sound

>>383388523
>>383388448
>There's nothing I can do about my faults!

yeah m8, just let me just quickly rewrite that genetic code and get different parents. Are you literally retarded?

>>383388523
I am not "blaming" anyone. I am saying that that's the way it is. I am not blaming bad parents for being bad parents. The reason they are shit is because they haven't been properly raised as well and might suffer from the same mental issues that you do. Shitty people produce shitty people.

>>383388712
>Stop blaming your parents. You don't have a mental condition, or a problem. You're fucking lazy.

It's intellectually dishonest to think that your parents aren't a pivotal reason why you turn out the way you do. Maybe you should learn a thing or two about anthropology. Your environment and genetics are the things that will shape you. That's a scientific fact.

>Stop making fucking excuses. 2 out of those, everyone fucking gets, and 3, almost no one gets. You're not a victim of your upbringing, you're a victim of yourself. Grow up.

Those are not "excuses" you retard. I am not excusing myself because I am neither ugly, nor did I have terrible parents or a severe mental illness. If you ever look at people that are complete failures at life usually one of these elements will be present.

>>383389062
Not in my country. Not to mention almost all of them ask for previous experience.

>>383386575
This is a fucking pathetic excuse.
t.3rd worlder

>>383386618
you could also join a ship a s deckhand, no one wants to do that, not even browns

your on the water 3 months then off 3 months or so

pays well enough you can just be a NEET on your downtime

you'll be fit and healthy too since the mess cooks healthy (shit) food and your doing labour all day

How do people just sit around talking? I don't understand it. Is it the alcohol? Should I just start drinking so I can finally understand how that's entertaining? Watching movies, sports, dancing, swimming, that stuff I get. But it seems like any social event I end up in is just people sitting around doing basically nothing. I just can't do that. I need to actually be doing "something", which is such a subjective term. "Something" to a lot of people is hanging out and drinking beer, and video games are "nothing" but it's the complete opposite to me. I guess I'm just literally autistic or something.

>>383388158
>I got a chinese faggot from class joining the army through some fucking program.

The "program" he's involved is likely the MAVNI program which basically consists of the US army saying to Immigration that they'll hire you as a translator so that you can have a greencard to join the army. You can only apply for that program if you speak a language that's actually useful to the army though, like arabic or chinese or russian.

>I knew mexicans and sudanese people joined the marines who were fresh off the boat.

Likely already have family members that are permanent residents.

>My dad got recruited in the army while he lived in the phillipines

Things were different prior to 2001 when immigration became much harder.

>>383386575
>going to a university

Uni fags are retarded anyways. Go to a cheaper private school.

>>383389094
Keep blaming imaginary problems. You don't have cancer.

If you did, you'd be blaming that and something real, not genetics or mental 'conditions' likes a spoiled, lazy fuck who's never had to do anything in his life and now blames everyone else since he actually has to do it to not be a worthless leech on humanity.

>>383386736
>friends
>Socially gimped

Not how it works. fuck off norm trash

>antagonize men relentlessly
>men decide to fuck off and just stay inside and play video games
>"Surveys tell us that [men who play videogames] are happy"
>find this so problematic that you write an article about it, claiming that there is a problem and that this is the facht that "for many young men, video games have become a substitute for living."

Fuck off, you harpies.

>family keeps nagging me about finally pursuing a career instead of wasting time
>"anon, don't you want a house / car / vacation / insert anything expensive"
>nah, not really
>keep nagging me about it
>minimize contact with them harshly, ignore them for weeks when the subject of my career comes up
>despite all this, all I feel is hope for the future because Metroid Samus Returns releases in September

What else do I need?

>>383389175
Seems pretty autistic to me if you can't connect with people long enough to have a conversation

>>383389063
Military spending is just money laundering bro, it doesn't actually go towards killing brownies.

>>383386029

This.

I work an average of 25 hours at my job, and I work at a retail store.
I make enough for rent, food, bills, and consistently have $1K or more in my savings for "Fun time".

I don't have a wife, or shitty kids to look after so I don't need thousands of dollars that go straight down the drain.

>>383389004
That sucks. One of my buddies became a security guard right out of high school, and he was a skinny little manlet. All he did was walk around every so often, watch an empty warehouse on camera, and make sure doors were locked properly. If literally anything happened, his job was to call the police and kick his feet up on the desk.

>>383389094
Did you just try to compare your social retardation to cancer? I take it back you may actually have a serious mental condition.

>>383385860
>I'm 26, literally never felt an impulse to get a girlfriend or talk to women

Literally me

>>383389175
I mean, you're sitting around talking with strangers right now. Now imagine doing it with people who actually like you and appreciate your thoughts and jokes, or want to hear about what's up with you. You don't see the appeal?

>>383389030
I'll be your friend anon

>>383389062
i didn't even need that lol, i just got fingerprints done and a background check.

>>383383871
>losing
To what? Being a wageslave cuck?

>>383389027
Just being graduated from high school. I'm from France though

>>383383871
unless you got an archive link I ain't clicking that shit nigga.

>>383389306
it's ok to be ace.

>>383389305
>Did you just try to compare your social retardation to cancer?
i didn't compared it to have cancer
i compared it to the retards that think "get better" will magically fix cancer , i said cancer because just like how you was raised , you can't changed it

No woman will want me. What choices do I even have.

>>383385860
>He also seems to ignore job shortages practically everywhere as a contributing factor.
That's just patently false.

We have several fields that need a lot more people. Nuclear Engineers are a big one, every fucking in the field is nearing retirement.
Another is welders, cause holy fuck do we need welders.

>>383389175
Honestly I love talking to people that are within my comfort zone with a little alcohol which is funny since my comfort zone hasn't changed in over 7 years.
Have you ever actually drunk with somebody else before?
Just thinking about talking to strangers sends shivers down my spine but when you really like somebody, it's easy to pass the hours just talking.
>>383389428
What does that mean?

>>383389125
And you can just as easily look at people with all those 'problems' and have successful lives and careers.

You know what the difference is? They don't sit back down and blame others for their problems. Everyone has problems. Even the most normal, average person you know has a shitty fucking life. Guess what, it's called being an adult.

You need to grow the fuck up. You're spending too much time reading armchair psychology and not enough time in the real world.

>>383388712
I get where you're coming from but your parents essentially shape you into what you are. All my parents did was fight both physically and mentally with everyone in my house for most of my life, I am emotionally exhausted, I have a job and school but life is fucking tiring and I have made countless mistakes because of the giant invisible tick my parents helped plant in me.

>>383383871
did a woman write this?

>>383389452
Friendship, self-fulfillment, good works, luxury.

>>383389281
>>383389315
I guess it's just as simple as me not knowing anyone who likes to talk about my hobby. I know people who like video games, but they don't like to actually talk about them I guess.

>>383387534
Dude. If she lied that you are good worker, then it means you are not a good worker.

Nobody wants to hire a bad worker.

I mean dude

>>383385171
>feminism and casual sex tinder movement alienate an entire section of men

What

>>383389209
sorry i dont want to work 24/7 for no salary
if you want to be a slave , good for you
but i'm gonna guess you have a company and get slaves from afrika directly

>>383389390
That sounds like dream job material to me, and also sounds like something impossible for a non-EU citizen to ever obtain.

>>383385402
Lmao did whoever made that image understand that publications tend to hire more than one journalist?

>>383386345
>t. Boomer scum

>>383388742
Homeschooling is probably the worst thing you can do to a kid

>>383389492
"ace" is a shorthand for "asexual", meaning "wholly uninterested in sex". There's memes and a community, probably, if you want. I have an ace friend and she's real cool.

(She watches all the fujoshi cute-boys-with-subtext anime like Free! and so on, except to her, she enjoys them because they're actually just shows about really close dorky friends.)

>>383389565
I meant, my friend lied to his boss that I was a good worker even though I'm really not. I mean I've never even worked before that.

>went in for interview my friend manage to get me because he worked there
>botched it completely
>boss tells my friend that she probably won't hire me
>friend tells her I'm a damn good worker
>get hired
>spend most of my time on 4chan when the boss isn't around

>>383389542
Nope. White man.

>>383388712
>you are a small insignificant individual born into a universe on a planet to a species that happened to have developed consciousness in a society where millions of people suffered for thousands of years of recorded human history due to no fault of their own. Your species probably doesn't have any purpose and if the entire human race would get annihilated by a meteor then the universe wouldn't give a fuck
>if you don't succeed in this society it's because you did something wrong
>because the universe is totally fair and everything that happens to a person was in their control

that's how retards like you sound. I think you are conflating the SJW brand of "the world is unfair bohooo I am sad" to "the world is unfair and that's the way it is and that's the way it will always be. I will just live my life the way I can and that's it"

I can recognize that something is unfair without whining about it.

>>383389761
My sister convinced our parents to do it so I asked to do it to because I was 13 and all I cared about was not having to go to school anymore. If I could go back in time I would slap 13-year-old me's shit.

>>383385384
i think you might be confusing reason with cause again. It's not gamers don't have a job cuz of games - it's more people play vidya cuz they can't find one.

>>383386754
This is actually true you stupid fuck. If you're a white man, you will likely have a chance for a scholarship than if you're latino, black and some asians. If you're applying for a college, it's the same. However in some colleges it's asians are more fucked than whites.

>>383389196
>I knew mexicans and sudanese people joined the marines who were fresh off the boat.
>Likely already have family members that are permanent residents.

not the story I got from them.

the sudanese guy was a refugee left the country with his family because of they were being targeted or something. the mexican didn't talk much so I don't know anything about his family. all he said he only joined to so he can eat and had been living in mexico all his life.

>>383389559
Yeah, that's different. Finding friends you can connect with is hard and a lifelong project. You could learn to talk about games in a way that people who aren't super into games find it interesting though, that wouldn't solve your problem but it's a useful skill. I wish you good luck!

IMO, though /v/ will probably disagree, the easiest way to get along with people is to just start liking people.

>>383383871
This reads like a high school weekly assignment.

>>383389621
>sounds like something impossible for a non-EU citizen to ever obtain
It's not clearly stated but yes

>>383389294
Where the fuck is this? Most places I've seen in the US barely pay you enough to eat if you work retail.

I can't speak for everyone but I've more or less accepted that I always be single. Job pays well though and games are still fun so it ain't all bad.

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>>383389530
I can relate. My mom was 20 and my dad was 24 when they had me. Mom was always a narcissistic psycho and is now addicted to pain killers and alcohol and gets kicked out of wherever she lives regularly.

My dad is a decent guy, just wasn't a good dad. Never stepped up when he needed to, never really taught me how to be a man and protect me from my sociopath of a mother.

Now I'm in my early twenties, trying to get my shit together and become an adult. It's hard when you don't have any real parental figures, though.

>>383389953
>homeschooling
Homeschooling is sometimes better than regular schools but most use homeschooling as s crutch to not take good care of their kids or because of some voodoo religious shit.

>>383389884
No one's saying you can be the next Bill Gates if you try hard enough. There's always an element of luck. But don't just pretend that every bad thing that happens to you is totally beyond your control. You can't get better at anything if you just decree it a guaranteed failure because "muh upbringing" without even trying

>>383390049
That's because your average internet "journalist" is still mentally 15 years old.

Why aren't young men getting married so they can end up being divorced and paying half of their salary in alimony, all while being told they're sexists and rapists day in and day out?

WHY, DAMNIT?!

>>383390049
Of course it does. If this guy were actually any good at writing, he wouldn't be wasting his time with internet-only blog tier articles like this.

>>383389761
It really ought to be the best, but only isn't because everyone else goes to 'regular' school that society sends everyone else to.

>>383387476
>E5 BAH while you go to school full time.

I wish I could do this for certifications instead of school.

>>383390071
Yeah, it's hard. Good luck and hang in there, okay?

>not holding out for the inevitable automation of 90% of jobs and universal basic income for all

how much longer do i have bros? im a gambling man.

>>383390196
I don't think basic income will ever be a thing in America. You're better off trying Canada or Europe.

>>383389884
Your life is always in your control unless you have a terminal illness. Just because you're not willing to try, doesn't mean you can't, and that's the bottom line.

Look at Conor McGregor. 4 years ago, dude was an unemployed, worthless faggot playing videogames all day and collecting welfare.

Do you know what he's doing in a month from now? Fighting for 180 million dollars in a boxing match.

Your parents aren't in control of you. Your health isn't in control of you. Society isn't in control of you. You are. It just so happens you're a defeatist, lazy faggot is all.

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>>383383871
>Unemployed, or underemployed, men residing at Casa de la Mama whose major life skill involves pretend shoot-em-ups are not going to impress many ladies. Accomplished women are going to discover the competition for male peers even tougher than it is today, when there are about three women for every two men enrolled in college.

>>383390251
b-b-but muh elon musk said so. he said the robot gods are going to run the world?

>>383390251
nah he'll get beheaded there.

>>383390196
I wasn't even expecting that, I was holding on for holodecks

>>383390196
It's gonna take at least until all the boomers die out and some change because they're gonna hold a death choke on muh protestant work ethic.

Another 40-50 years, minimum.

>>383389489
Yeah man all those NEETs can just go be nuclear engineers why didn't I think of that.

Somebody asked me to be a nuclear engineer last week. Maybe I'll hit them up.

>>383389718
You know they all have to be reviewed by an editor, right?

>>383386430
Because people talk to other people.

Whoa. That's crazy. Someone at McDonald's can have a friend in office? Holy shit!

>>383390120

When you're a NEET who has anxiety, is reserved, and probably insecure then good luck finding a job. You have to change your entire way of being, literally altering your personality (good luck) or be good enough to fake it so you can get a job. EVERY employer wants a confident full-of-enthousiasm employee who's not afraid to take initiative.

>>383386029
Yeah, came here to post this.

Hell, I even magically have a half-decent job with growth and development potential, and it still sucks. If you do like, fucking anything in America, the expectation is that you work 45-50 hours a week, and it blows ass. People are lucky to get to that point, though, because most get debt-addled in university and leave school with zero job prospects.

Life is stupid, and the current economic system in the United States sucks fucking ass thanks to your ignorant-assed republican guntards and religious nutcases. Who the fuck wouldn't opt out? Opting out is the right thing to do at this point.

>>383386430
Any job is a good starting point. Employers want to see that you can get a job and hold it for a reasonable amount of time and function properly. How do you faggots not get this?

Making fun of someone because of the job they do is pretty fucking petty. It's their livelihood. Stop acting like a fucking high schooler.

>>383390293
>you have controls of things you dont control
becoming god in a few days
thanks for the class

>>383390148
>I wish I could do this for certifications instead of school.

huh. why can't you?

>>383389489
problem is nobody is steering kids towards that shit, they're putting them towards STEM Business/Math OR service industry

>>383390196
A long fucking time. Probably never. It's not because it's impossible to automate production, but it's impossible to automate innovative production. Any new products have to have prototypes built up, and even larger companies aren't going to bother scaling up an assembly line with robots when it's cheaper and/or significantly less risk to pay a few idiots to put the pieces together by hand.

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>>383390298
>yfw the Chad shortage causes harems to become socially acceptable and now you have even less chance of getting a gf

>>383384843
stop being such a crying little faggot, jesus you white boys are annoying. Don't you have memes to create about Donald the Clown?

>>383390010
>sudanese guy was a refugee left the country with his family because of they were being targeted or something

That's an asylum greencard. Quite difficult to be approved and also has a yearly cap.

>>383387476
didn't they shitcan the Scholarship program?

>>383390446
a.i. is already creating new styles of painting, music, and language. and thats happening now.

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>>383385787
>paywall
>ambiguous name
>shaky details
yeah this sure is legit and totally not a paper mill.

>>383390293
Mcgregor had his first fight at 18 and before that was on a plumbing apprenticeship

total bs

>>383390459
This isn't going to happen at all, in fact the opposite is going to happen.

Men aren't going to hoard willing women. Women are going to hoard willing men.

>>383390332
Work ethic has nothing to do with Boomers.

Boomers were born privileged with a, obviously, booming economy. They fucked it up by voting jobs away and removing training from jobs and other cheap tricks that have made it harder for following generations. They've done the damage and then question why younger workers are dealing with such issues. They're oblivious.

The Protestant work ethic has been around before them and will be around after them.

>>383390401
>anxiety
Check
>reserved
Check
>insecure
Check
>job
Check

I don't like talking to people, and I'm not good at it, maybe I never will be, but I force myself to do it because that's the ONLY way to improve. If you're too scared to that's fine, but don't shift the blame onto everyone else for not molding you into Chad Thundercock when you were a kid.

>>383390441
Yeah.

Trump is actually pushing people towards it, but it's not enough. Post-high school education needs to be a bigger thing.
A big problem is that a lot of trade jobs require a degree of intelligence. My cousin for example is becoming an electrician, which pays like $80k/yr. Problem is that he doesn't know how to do math at all, which the degree requires.

>>383390549
that says "possibly partisan think tank" to me, not "paper mill".

Who exactly is losing the men?
I'm not yours. I'm not an object. You never had me to begin with.

>>383390459
>There are no Harems today
M8, if you have the money you can have all the pussy you want.
You only need money.

>>383386958
>Republicans pander to the Rust belt and working class
>"We're going to bring dem jerbs back! Coal, factories, you name it! But before that vote for us!
>Retarded rust belt/working class vote for them because they don't know any better and are large uneducated
>"Uhh sorry guys we couldn't bring those jobs back, the democrats took them away"!
>The reality is the companies decided to move somewhere for cheap labor, or competition and automation forced them out.

One day those idiots will realize this.

>>383387725
Say hi to people around you, try to remember their names and something about them to talk about next time. Repeat. Surprise! You have made a friend

>>383389494
>And you can just as easily look at people with all those 'problems' and have successful lives and careers.

No you don't. Because there aren't any. Willpower isn't just some magical fairy-dust that exists outside of your genetics.


>You know what the difference is? They don't sit back down and blame others for their problems. Everyone has problems. Even the most normal, average person you know has a shitty fucking life. Guess what, it's called being an adult.

I am not BLAMING anyone. I am saying that that's the way it is because it's objectively observable.

>>383390438
The one's I've looked at won't accept the GI bill or it doesn't count as full time.

>>383390663
thats why theyre swing states. they vote republican, then 8 years later their kids vote democrat because they see how shitty they had it. then 8 years later their kids kids vote republican again because muh jobs.

>>383390663
Interestingly enough the envirocucks are actually creating jobs now. The real reason Cali and all those other places wanna stay on the paris accords is cause alt energy is big business for their states now and they're raking in the dosh.

>>383390315
I don't deny automation is going to happen and fuck people over. I just don't believe American government will be able to fix anything since they are elected by the retards of America itself. And self serving rich people I guess.

>>383390521
But I'm not crying. It's a pretty good thing to not be dependent on a pointless system that you do only because you are expected to do it.

Starting a family is overrated, and when you don't need to start a family a career becomes much less important since it doesn't take much to be able to live comfortably as a loner. Interests and sanity before women and families.

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>>383383871
STOP THIS GOYIM.

BE MY FUCKING SLAVES AND WORK FOR MINIMUM WAGE YOU STUPID GOYIM

STOP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES SHREEEEEEEEEE

>>383390606
I think there's definitely more chance of two women sharing one dudebro than there is of women collectively lowering their standards to include NEETs.

>>383388419

Look on the bright side, if you did that you would still be unhappy, just for different reasons

>>383390664
you think people you say hi randomly and say 4 words are your friends? whatever being every few days or every few months?

>>383383871
Less jobs for men just so women can get the latest iphone and a new pair of shoes every week. Kids get spoiled because no one that cares about them is raising them.

>>383390459
I'll never understand >tfw no gf faggots. If you're past highschool age, any potential gf is either a cock carousel regular with past baggage, a religious fundie lunatic, or some kind of a defective ogre or future cat lady. Why the fuck would you want a gf, when all you can have is trash you're better off without?

>>383387134
This is my life. I'm an MD living in my parent's basement fixing computers on the side for cash

Still driving my shitbox because at least when a soccer mom texting in her SUV runs a red light and T bones me it'll kill me and not just maim me for life

>>383389718
>Only half of our staff is full of shit

>>383390606
I actually dated a girl who had a boyfriend for a while. It honestly ruled - she clearly had a type, so, I got to hang out with another really relaxed tall friendly guy who had a ton in common with me, now and then.

(I like doing the fancy date stuff, he was a little bit of a homebody and lived with her, and we sorta both covered stuff she wanted out of a relationship together? Cuckolding meme aside, we were great pals.)

>>383390802
They already do that now. People cheat more than ever, literally every person I know except 1 guy that married when they were young has been cheated on multiple times.

Women essentially do just use men for sex and money and gifts now, they effectively are sharing men.

>>383390869
The religious one sounds good to me.

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>>383390648
But anon, white men as seen by the Left are objects. A bloc. A monolithic blob of people.

Don't believe me? Look at a recent article published by the BBC that notes how women are "desperately freezing their eggs" because of the "lack of educated men." The article presents two issues;

1.) There are not enough men in college
2.) Educated women should not "need" to lower their expectations for a mate

The article never once suggests more men need to get into college, or that colleges should start programs encouraging men. That thought never even crosses their minds. To society, a lack of college men is just a... Thing, a natural phenomena like an incoming hurricane. You can't fix it. You can't correct it. To the media, to society, to simply the average woman, the thought of addressing an issue men suffer from is as insane as believing your breakfast is going to talk to you tomorrow. Oh, but men need to "step aside" and let more women into STEM, there needs to be more women in the high-paying majors and high-paying careers, but everything else? Hah! Get over it, boys~

>>383390798
>make video games so good that they passify the population so you can dominate them
>simultaneously want population to be vigorous and hard-working

well?
which is it, /pol/fags?

>>383390802
That's not really a harem, though. This is just women using men as ATMs and dick dispensers.

>>383389489
oh you mean jobs you need a college education to get?
That same college education which is going to be auctioned off to either a minority and/or a girl because they're a minority and/or a girl?

>>383390748
what certification you're trying to get?

>>383389173
how would i go about doing this if i live no where near the sea? spending three months at sea doesn't sound all that bad

>>383391132
idc, its obvious the article wants you to slave away for mr shekelsteins company so stop playing video games you stupid goyim

BUY MY CHINK SHIT NOW SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>383385171
the only way to win is to revolt and start removing the disease: jews, feminists, lgbt degenerates and niggers
only when the white man will be feared again is when he'll be truly free

>>383391064
>lack of educated men
I think they mean lack of 6'5" chads with rock hard six packs that aren't dumber than a bag or rocks.

I'm highly educated and average looking, no one wants my sperm.

>>383391064
>The article presents two issues;

You forgot the third issue:

Your incorrect usage of the semicolon.

>>383390293
you don't know what genetics actually entail and environment entail. Your entire way of thinking is dictated by these things. Your advice is basically "just be someone else" which doesn't work for people who don't have personality traits that allow them to be confident. Again, it's like walking up to someone and telling them to stop being ugly. You don't control your conscious thoughts. You don't actually think about a thought before you think it, it just arises based on chemical reactions in your brain and if you have social anxiety and other issues then the only thing that can change it for you is some outside influence. You either need to take meds to change the chemistry in your brain or you need to talk to someone who knows how to change your way of thinking. It's not just something you do. You are acting as if people just randomly decide to be miserable and need to snap out of it. No one wants to be a sad sack and if there was an easy guide step-to-step guide to success then everyone would be successful.

>>383390771
You know why republicans are so pro-coal? That's because it's the only way for america to be truly energy-dependent.

Most alternative energies are taken from other countries. Solar/Wind tech is EU, Solar panels is china and the materials are from China and some anti-US countries.

And alternative energies only gives you artificial jobs. After it is set-up, it only needs a few people to keep it running.

>>383391202
Nigga, you can get into a nuclear engineering college with ease.

Mine was 30 people for the class size. If you apply with a GPA above 2.7 they'll take you.

>>383391267
A fun problem: Free will, as far as anyone can tell, is a fake idea. However, people who believe in free will are happier and more successful, and better at improving their circumstances.

>>383391301
What about nuclear? America used to be good at that

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Don't worry, Islam is gonna hit the West like a whirlwind, then grown ass neets will get real waifus.
Patriarchy is coming back full force, thanks the regressive left for it.

>>383390619
this man is 100% correct.
I'm the same way; I hate doing it but you really just have to force yourself. It's the only way to improve. or drink a lot in social situations, its cliche but it works like a dream

>>383391301
The world's best solar panels are literally American made: Tesla/Musk panels.

Nuclear energy is entirely doable by the U.S. alone too.

Same with geothermal.

"Muh coal!" is a load of bullshit, driven only be the greed of fossil fuel corporates who want people to buy their garbage.

>>383391382
They still would be but it has such a massive stigma for no reason there's all sorts of shit attached to building one.

>>383391301
is energy having a high labor cost good or bad

>>383391382
Blame the tree-huggers.

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What else are white men going to do when it's more and more apparent that this new modern west is intended to push females as much as possible, leaving men in the dirt? It's the generation of the roasties. They can do anything and get away with it. They don't need to even try. They are encouraged to try hard but aren't blamed when fail. They are encouraged to enjoy life and "not others tell you how to live". Meanwhile men are pushed as the needed grunt labor necessary to make this matriarchy possible. It is no wonder men are fleeing from reality. This is no longer our reality.

>>383391301
>The Sun and the Wind depend on other countries

how much weed you on right now my man

you really think the chinks and the swedes can make shit we can't reproduce if some cucko just nuts up and develops the process and facilities for it?

Moreover, you are never ever ever ever ever ever going to be "Independent" again. Pandora's box got opened and the corporations don't WANT to go back, they're making more money than ever. You are mcfucking stuck with globalism if you want to maintain the same industries we've had since the end of the 2nd world war.

>>383391440
>The world's best solar panels are literally American made: Tesla/Musk panels.
Maybe you mean "AMERICAN MANUFACTURED". And tesla panels are not the best.

>>383391452
Answer is multi-faceted.

>>383391450
>>383391469
But nucear energy is clean. Misinformation should be illegal

>>383391003
>Women essentially do just use men for sex and money and gifts now, they effectively are sharing men.
And then they off themselves when they reach their mid 30s because now nobody wants start a family with them.

>>383391596
>Answer is multi-faceted
Yeah, fair.

I think the whole thread could cheer for safe modern nuclear pretty hard though.

>>383391631
Good

>>383387971
íve read it

>>383391420
>Don't worry, Islam is gonna hit the West like a whirlwind, then grown ass neets will get real waifus.

It's not. It's really not. Hate to say it, but immigrants are going to eventually assimilate and when they do they'll be about as token Muslim as your typical token Christian. These people may be more prone to violence and more prone to committing stupid crimes, but it's not going to be the Caliphate like people think it will.

Fuck, you can even see it from the most recent acts of terror, they weren't perpetuated by hideous ISIS soldiers fresh from Syria, they're committed by pathetic twenty-something men radicalized by Islam because it's literally the only thing they have going for them in life. Losers, in other words. Losers with trucks.

The future of Europe is not too unlike the future of America; most of the countries are still going to have a white majority, but the cities will be multicultural shitholes of the wealthy white minority and poor Arab/African majority.

>>383391631
No, there's a sea of betas to choose from for a comfortable life after the fun is over.

guys check this 2

>>383391301
>And alternative energies only gives you artificial jobs. After it is set-up, it only needs a few people to keep it running.

This is why coal is going to die one way or the other in the end. To be specific, as solar gets cheaper and cheaper, that's what will kill it. Wind is a total meme.

>>383391567
How much weed are you on right now my man. I said TECH.

>you really think the chinks and the swedes can make shit we can't reproduce if some cucko just nuts up and develops the process and facilities for it?
They already do you stupid fuck. America is so far behind on that front.