Graphics Thread

>>383364465
Frostbite is a fantastic engine.

Shame that the Andromeda team fucked up with it so hard.

>>383364465
I'm more interested in how DICE do their sound design

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>>383365234

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>>383365307

Are you 12?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_WaqCBp9zo

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>>383365565

>>383364465
By selling half the game as DLC

>>383364923
I still don't know how. I mean the game didn't even look remotely good. Battlefield is optimized as fuck too and Andromeda runs like shit.

>>383365234
>>383365307
>>383365536
>>383365976
>Mushy textures
Nah fuck off.

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THOSE FUCKING TEXTURE OMG

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>>383366373

>>383366552
>blurry chromatic aberration mess

>make game extremely pretty
>gameplay always casual and boring as shit

fuck.

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>>383366617
Thats not CA you mupped

Still sad that the devs only do 4k in photo mode

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>>383366617
get some glasses and cry harder pcúck

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>>383366743
I will need some after this blur.

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>>>383364465
>>383364515
>Crysis

>>383366617
without filters, most of these games would look like shit. you ever wonder why GTA ENBs always showthem in the rain/fog? because filters, like in this pic >>383366703

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>>383366740
it's not 4k, ps4 pro just takes screenshots at 4k resolution even if the game runs at 1080p or 1440p.

>>383366821
cry harder

>>383366920
thats how every game works you dumbass

>>383364465
>How does DICE do it?
By having almost no interaction on the map.

>>383366995
Look how fucking bad the textures are

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>>383366920
>without filters, most of these games would look like shit
No shit. That's how games work.

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>>383367241
Cry harder nigger

>>383365976
Most of that stuff is Zbrush + Substance Designer, while DICE is all base on photoscanning.

Without a proper source (i.e. a real environment) DICE couldn't achieve that level of detail.

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>>383367449
Even Fallout 4 has better textures than that shit.

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>>383367237
By having almost no interaction on the map.
>Battlefield 1
>All buildings destructable
>explosions cause craters on the terrain
>no interaction

what kind of fucking meme is this?

>>383366995
oh that's neat, never knew that the pro did that automatically

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>>383366995
That looks like garbage in comparison to Wildlands on PC.

>>383367920
That looks horrible though.

>>383364923
can't say the same for the physics tho

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>>383366995
>those awful "tree" textures on the mountains
are you playing a fucking ps2 game?

>>383366995
Why do those mountains seem really small?

DICE is shit and always have been
only cucks worship those swedish fuck toys that ruined syndicate

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>>383367627
>>383367449
PCfag with none biased opinion.
Sorry man but uncharted 4 does look fucking good, it beats most games by miles.

>>383365092
https://www.asoundeffect.com/battlefield-1-sound/
http://slideslip.com/doc/7476519/hdr-audio---gdc-vault

>>383367920
>>383368063
Is Wildlands even fun or is it just more open-world Ubisoft shit?

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>>383368063
my boi

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>>383368982

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>>383368494
It's actually fun, a lot of the time I find it tends to feel like what MGSV was trying to be. A big open world tactical stealth shooter with plenty of things to do on the map. You have like 20 cartel bosses you need to hunt down and kill/capture across the map and you can tackle them in any order you like, the entire map is open to you from the first mission and from there it's up to you to try and find each boss (by interrogating people, speaking to locals and hacking computers/reading documents in enemy outposts) until you get the intel you need to start a chain of missions to kill each boss.

On the side you'll be collecting resources by stealing and ambushing enemy helicopters and convoys to get upgrades for yourself, your weapons and your squad. You'll be hunting for weapons and weapon parts all over the map. You'll be upgrading your "abilities" you have like calling in friendly rebels to help in combat or spawning a variety of vehicles for you to use. This post is getting too long but the point is there's a lot of stuff for you to do and I can't fit it all in one post.

There's lots of different environments on the map which really forces you to change the way you play quite regularly too, the map is just a fucking joy to explore.

>>383367627
Who in the fuck are you trying to kid?

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>>383369076
>>383368982
Arma 3 can look pretty great up close or on long range, but you gotta hide the satellite textures on medium range, still don't understand why bohemia just doesn't make something like the midrange texture mod official

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>>383369705

>>383370353
ps3 graphics

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>>383370353
Fun fact: the paint on your weapons wears off over time and you need to get them resprayed if you want them looking brand new.

>>383364465
>DICE's graphics and audio teams have elder wizard-tier skill and only get better with every game they make
>DICE's gameplay design and art direction teams get progressively more retarded with every game they make

Did they monkey's paw themselves or something?

>>383367237
??? name a shooter with a more interactive map

>>383370272
ArmA 3 looks really bad, and it has awful animations.

The worst thing is that it is also quite badly optimized.

Don't post that shit here.

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>>383371307
Battlefield 1 is a good game and I enjoy it more than BF4.

Recently went back to BF2 and 2142, they aren' as good as I remember desu

>>383371443
>battlefield 1 is a good game
https://youtu.be/gw9KcqQSRRI

>>383364465
Photorealistic scanning techniques with the Frostbite engine.

>>383364923
>Shame that the Andromeda team fucked up with it so hard.
>>383366285
>I still don't know how. I mean the game didn't even look remotely good. Battlefield is optimized as fuck too and Andromeda runs like shit.

Because it's an NVIDIA sponsored game. Most NVIDIA games tend to run be optimized like ass.

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>>383371417
>ArmA 3 looks really bad
false
>and it has awful animations
true
>The worst thing is that it is also quite badly optimized.
only if you play bad and unoptimized gamemodes like KOTH, consider the scale the whole game has, 270 squarekilometers, up too 100 players on one server, every building can be destroyed, every tree knocked over, every projectile is calculated, every bullet can ricochet multiple times
>Don't post that shit here.
leave my thread nigger

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>>383371546
Oh wow, you posted a video of bugs that happened during the open beta LAST FUCKING YEAR, epic zinger bruh

kys

>>383371402
Crysis.

Half-Life 2.

Call of Juarez.

Penumbra/Amnesia.

The destruction is cool in the Frostbite engine, but apart from that? You can't pick up objects, or interact with other aspects of the map.

It's basically "shoot on that wall with an explosive, trigger a destruction, end of story".

While in Half-Life 2 for example, you could grab whatever you wanted on the map. There's a hole in a staircase and you can't go through? No problem, just pick a wooden plank and put it there to walk on it.

THAT'S real map interaction.

>>383371862
It's still a shit game that's turned the series into a casual wankfest.

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>>383371941
Battlefield was always casual

ITT: kids don't know what photogrammetry is

>>383371764
Nice photoshopped picture.

Why don't you post actual screenshots from he game? It's weird that I have an i7 4790k, 16gb ram, and the latest Titan Xp... but my ArmA 3 looks nowhere near that on the max settings.

At least Battlefield 1 looks exactly like the screenshots posted here. And it runs way better than your shitty piece of crap.

>>383371862
>>383372017
these graphics are so bad

>>383372017
arcade ≠ casuals
game become shit since bf3

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>>383372246
That is a screenshot straight from the game, learn to graphics setting faggot

>>383372246
That looks very much like vanilla arma, don't quite understand why you're trying to imply it's photoshopped.

>>383364465
northern germanic genes which makes them even better engineers than germans

>>383364465
Budget, big budget.

>>383372246
>Only an i7 4790k
Get out poorfag

>>383364465
Who cares, they cant make anything worth playing.

They might as well start selling fucking paintings.

>>383364465
Shallow gameplay

>>383365536
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>>383367449
Which Just Cause 2 SweetFX preset is this?

>>383364465
Photogrammetry. The idtech 6 shits on that.

>>383373059
Also better cucks apparently
>ww1 game
Has
>nigs
>women
LUL

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Tops everything available on PC

How does Sony do it?

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>graphics thread only prevalent in the summer

Really gets the old noggin' chuggin'

>>383365234
Looks pretty good honestly, it can compete with better looking PC games

Are consoles better value at this day and age?

>>383364465
You can make a piece of shit pretty but it will always be shit Anon

You'd be wise to know that graphics <<<<<< everything else
Maybe you'll realize it when you get older

Enjoy your pretty pictures

>>383367627
Ahhh, I still remember that first time I shitposted on 4chan. Good luck to you sport.

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>>383373279
Meanwhile, in a random hunting game for PC made by a guy named Bubba and a guy named Ned...

>>383373156
This.

Their games are so fucking boring... Take Battlefront for example. There is like one active server left!

They should make their games FUN first, and not just deliver some amazing graphics with shitty repetitive gameplay and massive grenade spamming.

Do you guys remember when Battlefield 2 was fun, and when it could be modded? Or Bad Company 2, which used the Frostbite destruction in full effect, with amazing rush maps? Or even Star Wars Battlefront 2 multiplayer?

These games were extremely fun.

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>>383373279
30 fps and low draw distance/fog, game doesn't look that good at range, still impressive though
can you stop with the console war bullshit though? This is a family friendly thread

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>>383367627
this is unmodded maxed out FO4

>>383368426
Hahaha fucktard. You rused me good. I was sitting here thinking "I don't remember that in uncharted". Then I realised you posted a photo.

>>383373498
nigger every one can cherry pic. His pic still looks good. Why are you fucking up this thread with console war?

>>383373498
Why does no one ever post Rise of the Tomb Raider? That game looks tons better than Horizon and it runs at 120+fps.

>>383373548
Projection doesn't really work when you just repeat the same thing that the opponent already said

>>383364465
>Graphics
>Important

>>383373716
Good looking game, but...

Boring and repetitive gameplay.

Remember the days when games had breakthrough graphics AND good gameplay? Far Cry, Half-Life 2, Crysis, etc.

These were the days.

>>383373859
>HL2
>good gameplay
lmao
are you going to say it was revolutionary and a technological marvel? even though Far Cry released within the same year on a better engine that did more and better, then next year we had FEAR and not long after came Crysis

Valvefags are the worst

>>383366920
rainny environments are much harder to render well than dry, sunny ones.
Reflections and ambient lighting are costly as fuck

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>>383364627
>>383364687
>>383364754
Nice filenames fagtron. What's the salary for shilling these days?

>>383366920
Anon, chromatic aberration does not make a game look good. It tends to have the opposite effect in most cases.

>>383364465
a cutting edge engine, prebaked lighting and good photogrammetry. Skilled engineers, programmers and artists.
>>383364568
I've always wondered if a diffuse brdf with a fresnel component would be worth it.
I have to say it does help make that sand look nice.

>>383373243
ww1 had both of those

>>383365234
fucking manlet

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>have good PC and AAA games
>rarely play those game but mount&blade warband

>>383373963
Not a single person can play Far Cry today and think "This holds up well!". You can with HL2 and mostly FEAR. You can't even pretend Crysis was a great game to play, and a few years after launch everyone noticed how shit most of the textures were and how poorly optimized it was.

>>383374290
>have good PC and AAA games
>play good PC and AAA games

Feels good being the only person on earth who does this, apparently

>>383374339
You should try Crysis sometime, its actually a pretty fun game

>>383373197
>id tech engine
>shitting on anything

>>383374339
at least Far Cry and Crysis doesnt need a loading screen just to get to the menu lol

>>383373963
Hummm, yes?

It included the usage of in-game physics to resolve puzzles. There was the gravity gun that could throw any object. The levels were really different, and the atmosphere was top-notch.

Far Cry and F.E.A.R were good... but far behind Half-Life 2 in every aspect.

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>>383374339
>an open world game from 2004 looks worse today than a corridor shooter from 2004

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>>383364465
It's alright.

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>>383374053
>Nice filenames fagtron
so giving files names is now an indicator for shilling?

I'm sorry that you are retarded, your desktop looks like this I guess?

>>383374571
nope
the gunplay is shit and gravity is only something that valvefags orgasm over, it was nothing great
comes nowhere near close to FEAR

>the atmosphere was top-notch.
not really

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>>383374571
HL2 is shit an highly overrated.

>>383374802
Nah the gunplay is pretty good in HL2 and it did a few things that really have never been topped, like the gunships, hunters and those strider things

>yfw there will never be a company so intent on making quality games again

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>>383373307
Niet, when you go into screenshot modes for UC4 and Horizon they up the AA, LoD, textures, and everything else to make it look like a "Bullshot".

When in motion the games look substantially worse, certainly not terrible, but nothing like the screenshots in order to keep it running. Lots of blur and fog / smokes and mirrors to distract the player from lower graphical fidelity.

Of course then it's all 20-30 FPS but that's a whole different thing. We've hit a point where lower level PCs can match the graphics while maintaining 60 FPS.

Will be decent cheap when the fucking miners die off too.

>>383375140
your average COD has better gunplay than Valvegames

>>383366617
there's no CA in this screenshot, though there is definitely a sharpening filter and it looks pretty bad

>>383374802
Sure.

That why Half-Life 2 sold way way more than your office simulator... even when you had to download a third-party software (Steam) to play it.

I liked F.E.A.R, but it was nowhere near as good and diverse as Half-Life 2.

>>383375140
HL2's gunplay is weak, especially compared to HL1.
The scripted encounters eventually got repetitive, but the hunters were fun to fight.

>>383375237
>That why Half-Life 2 sold way way more than your office simulator.
then its good thing we can agree on that most AAA games are easily better than HL2 since they sold a lot more :)

>>383375132
Like Metallica

>>383375527
Well, yeah. That's the connection, retard.

>>383375237
>sales determinte if a game is good or not
this tbqh

Call of Duty, GTA and Watch_Dogs are the holy trinity of best games ever made

>>383375393
No we can't.

Marketing wasn't as developped back in the days. There were no youtubers advertising a game, no youtube ads, no facebook ads, not as many banners, and social media was only a niche thing.

The only way to get sales was to create a GOOD game, so we can safely assume that the quality of a game was directly proportional to its sales back in 2004.

You would have known this, had you stayed in school to develop your analytical skills.

P.S:

:)

>>383375821
if you would've stayed in school your would know that HL2 got plenty of advertising in that time ;^)

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>>383372246

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>>383376162

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stop posting console games
they look worse and perform worse than pc for the price
the only pro they have are exclusives
all games that are both on console and on pc look and perform better on pc
pic related is what a ps4 pro game looks like
you are 5 years behind in terms of graphics and this is a graphics thread not a screenshot thread
learn the difference

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>>383372246
ArmA is okay.

>>383375981

And so did Far Cry.

And so did F.E.A.R.

In fact, Valve didn't release a single game for YEARS... while Ubisoft was publishing Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, Prince of Persia, etc. games in the previous years. They had way more visibility back then, which naturally boosted the adverstising of Far Cry even more.

Yet, Half-Life 2 still sold more... and again, it had to sell the installation of a third-party software at the same time, since Steam wasn't so popular.

Imagine having to sell a game that requires constant internet connection to play it, and the installation of a third-party software... in 2004. It's like a financial suicide at first glance, but HL2 still managed to overcome this, due to its unprecedented quality in every possible aspect.

>>383373554
lol 120 fps

Nice meme brosef, how many people have rigs that run it like that, a handful worldwide maybe? Get a life lmfao

>>383376503
Wooooowwwwww you're THIS assblasted about consoles. Insecure much?

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>>383376162
No other game can do what arma does. BF1 and uncharted will never have a world so big, detailed and open. No other game will ever provide what arma does.

>>383364465
Fuck dude, I think there's a snip-

>>383366285
Engine doesn't matter if you're utterly incomeptent. I'm pretty sure it'd still ran like ass if they had used Capcom's Framework instead.

>>383375180
you're either an idiot, or trolling, though I'm guessing both. Everyone knows screenshot mode doesn't change anything with graphics, LOD, AS, or anything else other than allowing the user to freely move the camera around, remove player characters, add vignettes, watermarks, and maybe a filter like B&W or sepia.

No one buys your bullshot idiocy.

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>>383377151
GRW has a better, more detailed open world, better gunplay, and is more fun

>>383377135
dont have to be insecure when it's objective fact i am superior to you

>>383377063
PC lowest standards are 144fps, console can barely handle 30 without constantly dropping to 20 at 900p

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>>383377382
this

>>383377563
LMFAO ok kiddo

How's your summer vacation going? Parents sending you to camp at all?

>>383377613
is this 2008?

>>383377756
solid rebuttal

>>383377941
pic speaks for itself
straight from 2008

>>383377487
But does it have an editor, scripting language, bullet simulation, ricochet simulation, modding support, 270km2 terrain, realistic engagement distances, a comparable sound engine that actually takes in account the time needed for sound to travel, firearms that actually feel like firearms, an option for 3D located communication and simulated radio while offering massive open world completely customizable missions with up to 100 players?

>>383378065
Coincidentally, that was also the year you were born

>>383378301
It doesn't need to, because it's fun

>>383378335
>being this buttdevestated your shitty game doesn't belong in this thread

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>>383378450
That may be true but so is ArmA.

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>>383377487
>better gunplay
hitmarkers ? Ohh okay...
AI spawning 50m away from you in defence missions? Ohh okay... Really great gameplay you got ther GRW.
The vehicles in GRW are terrible.

Also where is your multiplayer? I want to see GRW handle 100 players or 100s of AI. It's a terrible husk of a game.

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>>383378560
lol k, if that helps you sleep tonight

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What racing game has the best graphics?

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>>383378560
Agreed lets post some more amazing PC games woahh.... ps4 btfo

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>>383378972
Forza 7 once it comes out

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>>383374290
>Have a 1080, games look 10/10..
>playing on PS4 slim.

kill me pls.

By prebaking.

>>383379449
Looks shit

>>383375180
>Horizon they up the AA, LoD, textures, and everything else to make it look like a "Bullshot".
Horizon doesn't do this. Don't know about Uncharted 4.

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>>383379449
unity engine hahahaha

>>383364465
>How does DICE do it?
by being shit at everything else

>>383365234
same fucking dude who keeps shilling his PS4 games. no one cares man get a life

>>383366703
game?

>>383379041
too bad it sucks as both a sim and as an arcade racing game

>>383379660
GTAV
>>383379449
game?

>>383377198
upvote xD my fellow ledditor

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>>383367627
Certain aspects of fallout 4 actually look pretty good.
This is a screenshot I took on my xbox, the only visual mod being the Moribund World lighting color modifier.

>>383379789
Not the guy that posted that, but looks like one of the Escape from Tarkov pics I've seen a few times. Not 100% sure though.

>>383364465
It's called photogrammetry.
Basically you scout out a physical object you would like to digitize, and use a camera (preferably with a high dynamic range like a Nikon D810) to capture it from dozens of angles, and use those images to reconstruct the object in 3D space using a beefy computer.
You need perfectly even light, so outside you have to do it during an overcast day, inside you can make the lighting as soft as you want, but having a camera with 13-14 stops DR helps circumvent that limitation somewhat, as shadows and highlights can be compressed after the fact.
For stuff like plants and leaves, a blue screen is placed behind the plant and it's photographed with and without polarization, so that you can simultaneously capture its color, specularity and scattering properties.

The benefit of this is that you simultaneously get most relevant color data for the object as you capture it, so you not only have a finished object but also a realistic texture as well, although it has to be processed to remove all shadows and highlights from the base texture, as those will be reintroduced by the game engine itself. The hard part is being good enough at this process that you can reduce the incoming data to a manageable size for game purposes, as well as getting a good capture in the first place, and having the patience to capture these objects from many points in space, so it's by far not for everyone. Only big studios that can hire a dedicated photographer and scouting agency can pull this off.

A similar technique was used in the creation of Order 1886, where every texture was scanned multiple times by a camera, with varying lighting direction between shots. This technique allows a computer to fully deconstruct a surface into its component parts, so that when the game engine re-assembles the texture, it looks photo-realistic under any lighting situation and from any angle.

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Who care?
Nowaday, any indie dev can get very good graphics as long as they aren't too retarded with their Unreal Engine licence (see Vanishing of Ethan Carter and all those games in the same vein).
Your so called exclusive look on par at best with any Ubi Soft multiplat games they keep shitting every years.
All of that without being able to do the physic Crysis had or even just Painkiller.

>>383380058
just noticed the version number
it's indeed Escape from Takrov

>>383380123
2/2
It's one thing to get realistic textures, but to bring back the lighting under which they were captured, HDRI captures of the environments are also made, which is basically a panorama of the environment shot in HDR, and the data from this image is used as the lighting source for the in-game content itself. So rather than placing artificial lights in the scene to simulate when it might have been lit like, you literally use the place you where at to light the scene naturally. Since each HDRI can only light an object realistically from the specific point in space which it was captured in, multiple HDRIs are captured over a wide area and blended in-game based on, for example, the player's proximity to each one. Due to the fuzzy nature of lighting, you can generally get away with not having to be too extreme with making sure the light angles are accurate at each position.

>>383364465
A smart use of pre-baked lighting and advanced texture filtering. Fantastic artists and animators. Good programmers.

>>383380123
>>383380417
neat

learn something new every day

>>383372017
Battelfield Bad Company 2 was golden!
Still hoping for a 3th.

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>>383379996

>>383380191
Don't worry. In three years tops, we'll stop having MUH GRAMPHICS threads and start having technology threads again.

>>383371941
>battlefield 1 turned the series into a casual wankfest
>battlefield 1 was where it wall went downhill
newbie

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even a fucking fishing game can look decent.

>>383380559
I get to work with this kinda data sometimes so ama if you care to find out more.

I also forgot to mention that while HDRIs are useful for ambient shading, "hard" lighting, like the sun at noon or anything else which may cast a hard shadow still has to be done with tradition lighting means, so often the lighting result of an HDRI is mixed with an in-game simulated sun to actually generate specular shading and shadows, otherwise things look flat and bland.

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>>383381062
you wish.
Even to this day, I can't name a single game doing this shit at the end of this webm.

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>>383364923
>Frostbite
>fantastic
lol

>>383380830
>wanting BC3 from nu-dice

>>383373435
Turns out you can crank the graphics up pretty high when the entire game is just an empty map

>>383364465
wishful thinking?

>>383379789
thank you

>>383366920
>>383367370
>filters
No they wouldnt. You dont know what youre talking about. You're gamers, play games, evaluate them with your wallet, not with the nonsense you pass as an opinion.

>everything looks good and real life like
>except the characters,wich looks like some plastic shit, way off the background breaking all immersion
>also shit gameplay

we will never have a perfect game

>>383365234
>>383365307
>>383365536
Did you increase the contrast and or darken these screenshots? They are underwhelming and I thought Uncharted looked amazing when I watched videos of it. It was never this dark then.

>>383383419
he is just to stupid to configure brightness

>>383381364
Because making amazing looking 3D games is getting easier and easier, the only thing that will separate good games from bad will be details like that as well as gameplay, of course.
I've played Dark Messiah, I've played Myth 2. I know how games have dropped miles in quality, and this is all to push separate strands of hair visible on the characters.

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>>383370383
No.

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>>383371764
Looks like Crysis with a shitty filter.

>>383373027
Extremely happy they bought themselves out, I'm really looking forward to what they do now.

Although I'd really like them to work on optimizing what they have now. That level was hell on my 780ti...

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>>383373027
Surprised nobody has responded to your pic. Hitman looked great, shame Square is screwing over IO.

>>383382130
>you can crank the graphics up pretty high when the entire game is just an empty map

So why didnt Horizon?

>>383384508
>fucking subsurface scattering on her arm

If only the devs weren't retarded SJWs.

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>>383385156
It did in the very beginning, then Guerrilla realized the PS4 couldn't actually handle the game if it looked like the starting area throughout.

>There's a guy with such a severe combination of autism and buyer's remorse that he has to spam the same exact Uncharted 4 screenshots in every graphics thread
Why?

>>383385658
>Why?
You already said why, autism and buyer's remorse.

>>383365234
People still look like clay models

>>383385156
see
>>383384705

>>383374786
> being so uninspired at your deadend LYING job you can't even LIE right

sucks to be you anon. You know you can also do a normal, productive job other than shilling, right?

>>383382150
These sort of photo to ingame comparisons can easily go both ways depending on how you pick your cherries, but the scale is still impressive for a video game.

>>383385963
whoops, meant
>>383384743

>>383364465
Photogrammetry. They're damn good at it.

>>383369705
Oh shit, someone who actually played Wildlands on /v/.

>>383384743
>screwing
Screwed anon, they dropped IO like a sack of shit

>>383388334
Oh shit, didn't know it had happened that fast. Does that mean no season 2?

>>383365234
Oh oh a console screenshot, everyone has to go nuts and ruin the thread

>>383388581
IO ended up buying themselves out after Square withdrew and IO retained the rights to Hitman, so they're now an independent studio. They'll still probably need a new partner, but it's assumed they can now work on a new season

>>383387939
source?

>>383365234
Man, I thought that was a photo for a second. That must be PS4 Pro, right? You're not gonna tell me the original PS4 is capable of these kinds of visuals, are you? If that were the case I'd be crazy not to run out and buy a PS4 right now.

>>383389408
The tracks that run behind my house just outside Milwaukee

>>383389481
I took that screenshot on my PS4 Slim

>>383364923
frostbite is actually pretty shitty.

you apparently can't mod it, and it's likely unmanagable for anyone who's not a DICE-employee.

it's held together with duck-tape and silly-string.

>>383389717
How dare they not release the source code for their proprietary engine

>>383389982
>How dare they not release the source code for their proprietary engine

consolepleb detected,

you don't need to release source code to make a game moddable faggot, just user-hosted servers, and other things that the majority of PC FPS games manage to do without releasing source code.

>>383389408
Vanishing of Ethan Carter

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>>383380830
>Bad Company is so great guys xD It was my first battlefield LOL :)
Battlefield Bad Company was when Battlefield went for the console audience so fucking kill yourself

>>383390714
You have zero idea what you're talking about.