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tell me /v/, why is pic related right considered an rpg but pic related left isn't?
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make a shitpost about a game - hundreds of replies

try to have a serious discussion - zero replies

the state of /v/, everyone
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Fallout 4 is barely an RPG
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>>383361265
no one with any sense considers either of those RPGs and only utter plebs consider FO3/4 an RPG.

also stop being a whiney bitch you daft cunt.
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>>383359435
Neither should be. I suppose the current response is to say that the right offers more character customization but in truth it is just some cosmetic stats. Nowadays RPG is a label slapped on anything to sell more copies, it has no real meaning in video games.
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>>383359435
>fallout 4 is a rpg
said no one ever.
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>>383361402
>Nowadays RPG is a label slapped on anything to sell more copies, it has no real meaning in video games.

TW3 says otherwise. its literally the greatest RPG ever made.
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>>383361601
This is symptomatic of the problem with the current state of video games. I'm sorry for your taste. It isn't really your fault; you have been bamboozled since birth.
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>>383361372
*cries*
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Because of how they were marketed. I don't really consider FO4 to be an RPG, or FO3 really. New Vegas was the last gamebryo RPG.
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>fallout 4 is not considered an rpg

Are you niggers all high? Do you like, read stuff? Doesn't fucking matter if you personally consider it one or not. i'm talking about like, the general public consensus here.
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>>383359435
Wishful thinking.
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>>383362767
>the general public consensus here.
In that case CoD is one of the greatest series of all timestupid faggot
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>>383362767
ask reddit than

no one considers FO4 or FC an rpg.
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>>383362974
no one here*
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>>383359435
no real reason.
i'd even say FC4 more of action RPG than Fallout4
you have more choices in FC4 than in fallout which is hilarious
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>>383361372
Except most of the mainstream video game industry does with or without your opinion.
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>>383362767
>/v/
>general public consensus

all the whiney elitest babies here think they're above that, don't bother asking them.
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>>383363171
>>383362767
>mainstream video game industry
>general public consensus

so yes, I was correct, only utter plebs
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>>383362026
LMFAO, name me a single game better than TW3, nostalgiafag.
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>>383359435
Neither is an RPG.
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>>383363396
NO BUT NEOGAF AND ADAM SESSLER SAY IT IS SAYS IT IS
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>>383359435
fo4 isn't considered by anyone except subhumans to be an rpg
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>>383363360
Gothic 2.
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>>383363360
this. TW3 is the greatest RPG of all time, those branching quests, those interconnecting stories, those limitless ways to complete ever quest, all those choices and consequences that effect the outcome of every quest, that non-linear storyline, that deep, thought provoking varied dialogue, the ability to play geralt as you chose. seriously, there will never be an RPG as good as TW3.
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>>383363351
>me, the superior /v/ shitposter
>my opinion is better than the opinions of NEETs, non-virgins, the mentally stable, and the not-autistic
>sure showed those plebs
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>>383363446
NO BUT IT'S NOT THO
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>>383361601
skyrim
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>>383363471
STFU GAMESTOP AND STEAM LITERALLY LABEL IT AS AN RPG IN THEIR GENRES SO NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR SHIT OPINION. THE MAINSTREAM INDUSTRY CALLS IT AN RPG WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
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>>383363543
Nostalgiafag confirmed.
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>>383363360
His point is that there aren't many good RPG's out there anymore and the label just gets slapped on and you proof his point by naming just one game.
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>>383363715
Underage confirmed.
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>>383363609
dude kotaku and gameinformer literally label the game as an RPG, no one cares about your virgin /v/ opinion. these guys are journalists with degrees, they're lives and work are dedicated to understanding games on a level no other normal gamer can, i think they know a bit more about the game industry than you.
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>>383363896
>these guys are journalists with degrees
And they're terrible at videogames.
Why should I care about their opinion if they can't finish the game they're reviewing?
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>>383359435
Because
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>>383363878
No i don't praise mediocre games just because i played them first or because they're older. Maybe it was great for it's time, but it is just meh today. Sorry, gramps.
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>>383363692
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>>383364010
I'm sorry you're too young to experience nostalgia.
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>>383359435
why is this?
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>>383363953
you're a literal mentally ill /v/irgin. your opinion literally does not matter against the opinions of people whose livelihoods are analyzing and critiquing video games. how about you try explaining how FO4 isn't an rpg? oh wait, it doesn't matter because /v/irgin elitest opinions don't matter in the real world, and the mainstream public opinion does. btfo lol.
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>>383364113
>I'm merely pretending to be retarded! Haha!
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>>383364063
Yeah, and i can tell if a game is great without being blinded by this nostalgia, you can't. Checkmate TW3 greatest videogame of all time.
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>create your character
>determine their stats
>story driven
>dialogue and choices have affect on the outcome of the story
>leveling system where you acquire stats and "skills" that determine what you can do

It may be poorly written as fuck with the RPG mechanics flimsily implemented, but it's still an RPG
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>>383364201
>>383364113
Both me.
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>>383364101
>branching non-linear quests
check
>various different ways to complete every quest
check
>end result of the quest changes however you chose to complete the quest
check
completing the quest effects the story and world and the way NPCs treat you depending on how you completed the quest
check
>unique dialogue choices
check
>play geralt any way that you want
check
>countless real choices that matter and have an effect on the world and story
check

seems like the perfect RPG to me.
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>>383364312
Nice try faggot.
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>>383364404
Post a screenshot, faggot.
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>>383364113
Don't you have your own opinion?
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>retards on /v/ think they know better than the top video game journalists and analysts ALONG with the general public consensus

how can you retarded virgins get any more deluded? face the facts. FO4 will go down as one of the best RPGs of this generation by literally everyone and you diaper wearing adderol swilling autists are going to sit here and cry about how good your nostalgia games were, all while hte rest of the world moves on without you
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>>383364440
yeah my opinion is that you people are elitests and decided you don't like anything mainstream and associate games like Skyrim and FO4 with being a "normie", so you try to act tough and say FO4 isn't an RPG, when everyone else on the planet says that it is, and thats all that matters, that the rest of the world is right, and all you have is your butthurt.
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>>383359435
There is more role playing in Fallout 4 than there is any RPG before the first Fallout, yet people say its not an RPG why?
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>>383364653
So that's a no then? Cool.
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>>383364432
That faggot with the obvious bait about Skyrim and Fallout has nothing to do with me.
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>>383364562
>face the facts
okay, the facts are you're a level 1 amateur australian troll. i found you out, you've been exposed. a good troll knows when to walk away. this is first lesson
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>>383364724
because they're virgins who hate anything mainstream. it is in fact one of the best RPGs of this gen. there is no objective reason, that /v/ can give, that proves FO4 is not an RPG.
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>>383364724
Guess you skipped New Vegas.
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fuck off with witcher 3 jesus christ

this doesn't seem like a thread about the most overrated game ever does it
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>>383364836
>new vegas
>roleplaying

gonna explain how the garbage FO3 clone has more roleplaying elements than the latest iteration of the series?
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>>383364932
give up. you've been found out. no one is even seriously responding to your blatant and weak bait. learn to troll, kiddo
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>>383364836
>New Vegas before the first Fallout
Reread the post.
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>>383364920
>tw3
>overrated
this thread is literally rife with bait jesus christ. wanna explain how a game that was literally voted RPG of the decade and has received over 800 awards is overrated?
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>>383359435
Because right really isnt an RPG
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>>383365207
i'm still waiting for an explanation as to why that is according to the /v/ hivemind.
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>>383365139
Why are you so obsessed with awards and what some reporters think?
Doesn't mean that you'll enjoy the game.
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>>383361601
I love the game but its not really and RPG its more like an action game
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>>383365342
no i want to know what you think, so explain how TW3 is overrated
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>>383365408
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>>383365527
already been fixed. the combat is flawless now.
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>>383365587
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>>383363360
M&M6
Gothic 2 NOTR
Age of Decadence
Torment 1
Baldurs Gate
Daggerfall
VtMB

I could go on but you probably wouldn't know any of them
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>>383365303
Well Geralt is a premade character, you dont role play as a witcher instead you play as Geralt
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>>383365735
>Not mentioning Arcanum
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>>383364653
If FO4 is an RPG then why isn't Farcry?
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>>383365735
nostalgiafag confirmed than.
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>>383365880
Like I said, he wouldn't know any of them. Do you really think the guy who considers W3 to be the greatest RPG of all time knows Arcanum? He probably doesn't know half the games I listed
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>>383365901
Wasn't made by Todd, next question.
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>>383363896
trying a little too hard there buddy
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>>383361601
One of the best, if not the best game released this decade but its more like an ARPG. Its more similar to the Gothic series, which is not strange since Gothic is very popular in Poland.
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>>383365587
bam ham, auto aiming combat can never be fixed
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I'm really going to need it explained to me why FO4 and TW3 are apparently not good RPGs compared to these old games. like seriously, I'm seeing a lot of talk but no proof or supporting arguments.
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>>383366223
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>>383366223
why must posts like these happen
why can't we just discuss videogames without baiting or shitposting
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>>383366396
You can literally turn all of that shit off. Its your fault you chose to play the game in a way designed to help fucking downies
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>>383366757
The Witcher is designed around quest markers though, open world games like Morrowind and Breath of the Wild are not and use cleverly placed landmarks to help guide the player and in the case of games like Gothic, Arcanum or New Vegas you can complete quests in a multitude of ways that correspond to how you built your character. Need to get that item from someone? You can talk them out of it, kill them for it, pickpocket them, do a favor for them in return for it, etc.
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>>383366757
Did you play it with 'all that shit turned off'? I'll bet you didn't because the game was designed around those features. Without them it would extremely difficult to do anything. You're like the people who talk about turning off quest markers in Oblivion and Skyrim. Without them you're lost, a hallmark of poor design.
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>>383364331
>play geralt any way that you want

nope. and that is why it is not an RPG
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>play geralt any way you want

LOL
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>>383363360
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>>383359435
Neither is and they're both garbage.
Unless you're going by the nip definition of RPG but they aren't made by the japanese so you can't.

To be fair, most RPGs are fetid lazy trash though, absolutely abhorrent integration of story and gameplay elements, runescape is probably the only good one, also D:OS I guess.
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love how >>383361363 just got ignored
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>>383364331
>>branching non-linear quests
every quest is linear and you can't for example kill any person or brible them, most quests are all about killing
>>various different ways to complete every quest
wrong again, quests are all about using batman vision, kill enemies/scare them and come back to npc to get your reward/kill that npc
>end result of the quest changes however you chose to complete the quest
wrong
>completing the quest effects the story and world and the way NPCs treat you depending on how you completed the quest
wrong except baron and his family, keira and ciri everything else doesn't change
>>unique dialogue choices
kinda agree but after 10h all dialogues became similar and you notice patterns especially in side quests i wonder why there are so many retards who write their diaries and suddently gets killed and then geralt have to find their treasure
>>play geralt any way that you want

completely wrong, you can only play The Gearlt of Rivia, you can't kill any npc you want, you can't refuse to not to save ciri and world. You are marry sue who will save they day once again ;*
>>countless real choices that matter and have an effect on the world and story
like i said only barron, keirra and ciri quests have different paths rest is linear as fuck
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>>383370881
It's barely an opinion.
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>>383362906
Not like terms, you fallicious idiot.
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>>383372729
>'good games' isn't a term
>not an entity with properties
Looks like someone needs to read Aristotle
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>>383359435
Neither are RPGs
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>>383361601
Shit. Not again with this. You can't be serious.
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>>383359435
Because the one on the right has the same name as a series that back in the 90s was an RPG.
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