Favorite RTS unit

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A big group of upgraded cuirassiers will steamroll just about anything.

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I love the way brawlers swing back and forth while attacking their targets, haven't really seen any other game do that

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Scorched Earth baby

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READY TO ROLL OUT

DESTINATION?

MOVIN

DE-LIGH-TED TO SIR

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You can count on Osttruppen...No, really. You can!

>>383352503
PARTY-SANS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNkAw49mCXI

>>383352503
Cybran Salem. It's funny when the ships grow legs and come after your base.

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waifu

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I must... Obliterate!

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>>383352503
Ahwassa instead in case this doesn't count.

>Serashit

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>>383352503
KIROV REPORTING

>>383359860
>He doesn't like nukes.
Come on, anon.

>>383354608

Yeah, they were pretty amazing, even if the core version shit on them in A2A combat

>>383359137
Remember WC3 castercraft? I liked that legitimately more than patched WC3.

>You'll never hear ten "The dead shall serve" in a row, again.

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Si?

>>383360316
Good taste, friend.

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>WiC 2 never ever
Whoever at Ubisoft made Massive make The Division deserves to die in a hellfire

bigdaddy

>>383360587
Yes?

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the aesthetic
the voice acting
the not feeling bad for throwing them at the enemy and watching them get butchered because they're brainwashed terrorist fucks

>>383359995
>Remember WC3 castercraft? I liked that legitimately more than patched WC3.
Remember when RTS was about armies fighting armies, or support units supporting armies... instead of heroes duking it out with armies supporting them or heroes going alone against enemy heroes?
it sure was a nice genre.

>>383360862
In a way, I wish WC3 never existed so the cancerous idea of 'heroes' never even got started.

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this, I just love those rockets

>>383352503
That big fucking spider mech thing in SupCom. Monkeylord, I think.

>>383357817
this

>>383358812
they're fairly weak nowadays but I still like them. plus mark target and maphack abilities are goat

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>>383361635
arm had all the best units

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>>383352503
I mean Fatboys are killer as hell but they lose 1v1 against every single other Experimental unit.

>>383358875
That map was a nightmare fuel, I had no idea what I should expect.
>Ok it's probably going to be some kind of a big tank, not that a big deal.

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>>383352503
*blocks your path

>>383360862
>play vanilla CNC3 for first time
>Nod infantry degraded into shirt wearing infantry
What the fucking tits

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*cloaks behind you
*unsheathes mp44s and panzershreks
Nothin personnel...junge
>>383357817
Very close second

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Petsuchos from Age of Mythology.

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>>383352503
Monkeylord best experimental
Monkeylord best unit
Cybran best faction

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>>383364334
Eat shit Cuckbrans.

>>383361456
most RTS units can be classed as resource gatherer, or infantry, or vehicle (land, water air) or building. "support" is a special class which is usually non-combat, like medic or mechanic or engineer.
"heroes" would logically be a super-unit of their respective class.

super infantry and super vehicle - the experimentals from Supreme Commander, or Tanya from Red Alert, or even just higher tiers of the same unit like in Age of Empires.

super building - any kind of building that provides you with something like a "nuke" or other timer-based ability. it doesn't need to be directly combative either; a "wonder" from age of empires is a super-building because it starts your conditional win timer.

a super-support unit is a rarer kind, but i think all the "spellcasters" from the WarCraft and StarCraft series could count. you start with a simple support unit, and then through upgrades get a super-support unit.

the problem with the idea of "heroes" comes in when you try to combine too many types and subtypes together. you get this disgustingly bloated figure (with HP to match) with too many abilities and superiorities, and not enough faults.
the fact you can pseudo-RPG your heroes with their stats and inventory in WC3 doesn't help either.

the right way for heroes is C&C's way:
"this is still an infantry unit; don't be dumb and get crushed, or shot with a machinegun, or blown up by artillery, or..."

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They may not be the most powerful (unless you're using them to clear garrisons or molest the infantry general) but I will always love the deranged voice actor.

>>383363136
The mobile factory is so much better.
>Brings a comparable amount of firepower
>Can generate a massive army on the go and allows existing armies to adapt based on what is currently needed

>>383364976
Anon Monkeylords flatten Fatboys in a matter of seconds and no MASSIVE army is going to be built quickly and on top of that is has to come to a stop in order to build at all.
The Monkeylord will also flatten most armies it encounters.

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>>383364976
You're forgetting that the monkeylord costs considerably less resources to produce and can wreck the shit of a fatboy in a 1v1 as long as it's close enough to use it's laser. The stealth it has by default helps too.

>>383363352
This

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THIS IS THE OVERLORD TANK

>>383362953
you don't use fatboys to 1v1 you use them as shelling support to bomb the fuck outta your enemies and they are great at it.

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>oneshots ur capital ships
nothin personnel kid ;)

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>>383366050
Anon you don't get to make a post talking about how it has a comparable amount of fire power when it doesn't and expect the conversation NOT to be about the two units going at it.

Fatboys excel at demolishing fortifications and are merely good at anything else they might do, but not great.
In fact they make better PD than they do mobile attack units.

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>>383360862
>randomly explode into your base via subterranean APC
>4 shot your MCV
>2 shot your power plants
>1 shot everything else
>finally destroy me
>the upper half of my body survives
>one shots the rest of your army
>also heals inside of tiberium

Tiberium Sun had more strategy than most strategy games.

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>>383352503

>>383356792
Hiwis had a legit hard life.

>>383360862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBNCB4tToN4

>>383362953
why are you using a long range factory land battleship to 1v1 experimentals

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>The Black Hand has arrived
KANE LIVES IN DEATH

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Hello hello

>>383365271
This is probably the most situational unique unit in the game, but it's hilarious when your opponent is using trash units

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>>383352503
homen

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wololo

>>383367431
nod must acquire new lands

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I know the Kol is considered one of the weakest capitals but goddamn it looks cool.

>>383352503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G40caF929kg

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>>383352503
Step back pleb

>>383366415
fatboys are used not as a direct fire combat unit but like mobile artillery. you bombard enemy positions from long range and slowly move forward while defending the fatboy with a bunch of other units.

you can also kite other land experimentals because you outrange all of them by quite a lot. just make sure you have radar coverage to make use of your range, and have air control to protect against strat bombers.

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WE IZ DA SHOOTIEST

>>383369240
I played it recently and the only thing going through my mind was WE WUZ

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>>383368823

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Inejirek

>>383368987

Necron scum

>>383369297
40K Orks are based on British hooligans from the 1980's.

>>383369594
no doubt but still the BOIZ was too hard to pass on WE WUZ

>played an old rts for the ps1
>can't remember name
>can barely remember what it looked like
>know for a fact it wasn't any c&c game

I think you could rotate the camera and I remember white tanks or something and maybe space themed

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>3 rax

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Daily reminder.

>>383369802
Warzone 2100

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Both of them
PE for lyfe

>>383369932
Funny enough, wasn't the AoE III we got intended to be a spin-off initially?

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>>383370051
Fuck your shit

Best factions in RTS Games to spam basic units and overrun enemies? Besides zerg

>>383370051
>not marder

>>383370373
UEF can do that pretty well if your micro is good.

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So you're chilling in your terran planet when this guy warps into your gravity field and slaps your fleets ass.
What do?

>>383370373
Imperial Guard (but you have to upgrade them and add officers to them)

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>>383370373

>>383370373
Basically any T1 land spam in supcom is good, although i would say UEF has an advantage with fucking everything

>>383370051
Man CoH1 was so fucking Axis bias, Hetzer's where ridiculously powerful

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BIG GUNS
READY TO FIRE

>>383371009
>advantage
>not seraphim
lol only plebs that dont understand how op they re say this

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>>383352503

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They are like BRs but a little more clever

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>>383354608
Not only did it look cool, it actually mattered; that behavior reduced the chance of getting hit with slow-moving projectiles like ballistics and rockets because TA didn't have bullshit hitscan weapons.

>>383371078
>t.compstomper
I hope you're not fucking serious, hetzers were mediocre at best

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>>383354686
My nigger, too bad they were stuck in such a shitty doctrine

>>383371116
The only advantage Seph has is in T2 with Illshova spam being amazing

>>383371078
>tank destroyer that loses to a sherman
>ridiculously powerful

>>383363197
Not enjoying the non-stop hymn of
>we've got the rockets!
>fighters arm up!

>>383371245
I assume all PE went tank destroyer doctrine every time for them shreks

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>2017
>buying ships

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>[Hums Ride of the Valkyries]

>>383371245
Blitzkrieg helps

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>>383364609
I like the quad more.

>>383370373
Soviets in Red Alert 2. Barracks plus cloning vat pumping out conscripts.

>>383363292
>that time when calling in the tiger/STUH gave you a free stormtrooper squad
>that time when shrecks had good long range accuracy

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For the homeworld

>>383370373
I think unpatched battle for middle earth had free orcs
either 1 or 2

>>383371246
>what is T1 seraph arty

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>hits level 7
>visits library
Now it's your time to melt.

>>383371528

it was 1, and they are still free even in the latest version

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>>383352503
I really liked Battle Realm's samurai from Dragon clan but goddamn where they a bad ultimate unit compared to everyone else.

>split damage between melee and ranged
>AoE damage on death

I guess it says something about them when committing seppuku was a way to generate Yang.

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>>383371620
Stumpy's are extra cute when they surround big-brother bulldogs.

>>383371078
>COH
>axis bais
Axis got reamed constantly in patches, meanwhile USA always had a few viable strategies

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If you removed Defender forests from Total Annihilation, would it TRULY be the best RTS and not just arguably?

>>383369687

try living your life outside a shitty meme

>Grab your sword and fight the Horde!

>>383371318
>I assume all PE went tank destroyer doctrine every time
yes
>for them shrecks
what, no. Tank awareness, hetzer (when marder was nerfed) and jagdpanzer were why you wanted the doctrine. 2 shrecks became available really late. By the time you get them the enemy has tanks. Those tanks can easily drop 2 models on a 3 man squad and then you drop them like crazy. And Vet 3 riflemen with shrecks is over and out.

>>383371890
woah dude dat too deep 4 me

>>383371698
Battle Realms unit balance was a bit weird. The more trained units ended up just being niche roled. It was usually better to just go spear archer with geisha support.

>>383371113

actually bought and painted some of these niggas for the tabletop because I loved this unit so much. to this day they're the only plastic soldiers i own.

>>383371841
yes

>>383371932
Yeah. That's kinda what you get when every unit could get additional Battle Gear that could be a game changer.

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>>383370373
Infantry in AoE II are inherently weaker and cheaper than cavalry and archers; it just happens that the Goths offer very cheap infantry from the Feudal Age, at the Castle Age get an anti-archer unit, and at the Imperial Age get technologies to drastically reduce training times. However, you pretty much have to earn it in a standard game; it is a civilization without any meaningful early economic bonuses, and a human opponent obviously doesn't want a Goths player to boom and get their deathball of infantry spam that makes it so easy to replace fallen units.

The only way around this for other civs is to make Hand Cannoneers, other anti-infantry units, or some really bulky infantry, Goths can also switch into other units but this can be predicted.

>>383364482
TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FROM ANY SERAPHIM ATTACK

FROM VICIOUS CYBRAN INSECTS WHO HAVE ONCE AGAIN COME BACK

WELL UNLEASH ALL OUR FATBOYS

WE WON'T CUT THEM ANY SLACK

THE U.E.F DEPLOYS!

You're strong
It would be good to have that strength

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>>383372414
FUCK UEF

>>383370373
Orkz
Soviets

The snipers in red alert 2 were pretty op lol

>>383372414
OUR SOLDIERS ARE PREPARED FOR ANY AEON THREATS

THE NAVY SUMMIT SHIPS, THE AIR FORCE BROADSWORD JETS

AND NOTHING CAN WITHSTAND OUR FIXED PD NETS

THE UEF DEPLOYS

>>383371681
IM MELTING

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spider mines are a unit right?

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>>383352503
I thought they were cute. Fun to run around punching things.

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>fire at a single ore miner in the enemy base
>level all buildings in a 20 meter radius

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>>383370373
meep meep

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>>383372548
Fuck YOU

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Played an RTS insect game where you controlled lady bugs, ants, spiders, and dragonflies. It was fun but I forgot the name of it.

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>Keep attackin dem humies! Dey get "tired"

>>383360554
I don't really care about World In Conflict since Wargame exists

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>>383373641
>all that Ravager spam for 3 monkeylords
cant make this shit up

>>383352503
Maverick from TA

>>383373776
Considering the player ratings, I'm surprised they even figured out to use T3 PD and experimentals.

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For me, it's the Peewee!

>>383365516
BUNKA IS READY

>>383373834
Peewee and Brawler are both top tier

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>>383360862
TS units had the weirdest sound effects, though.
>Infantry fire sounds like a chain rattle
>Rocket Infantry fire sounds like chopping wood
>Recon Bike fire uses a sound effect you often hear in movies when a metal structure collapses

It took out the enjoyment of using those units. It didn't sound very satisfying.

>>383373926
does Rise of nations still have player base?
Never got to try my skills against other people.

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The only RTS unit that creeps me out.

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TRIARII!!!

>>383369240
Hell yeah, their guns feel so fucking satisfying

>>383373834
hahah i expected peewee to win that

What are some good rts fantasy setting game? Shit like elves and orcs. The game can be old since my pc is shit

>>383374616
Warcraft 1/2/3? Rise of Legends?

>>383374616

I hear that Heroes of Annihilated Empires is pretty good

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where I go
trouble follows

AOE2 hussars

>>383374616
Warlord's Battlecry series

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Nobody here but us trees

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vindaloo

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>>383371362
>Not "Grupa krovi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8K0sW8GX-4

>>383360862
RTS games are much, much more fun with fewer, stronger units with a bunch of abilities.

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I feel like an RTS, anons. What should I try if all I've played is C&C Generals, C&C 3, and Empire Earth?

Battle for Middle Earth, the gondorian royal guard

>>383375354
Age of Empires II + Conquerors, both the original CD release and HD are fine. The former is often used for multiplayer on Voobly and the latter got more official expansions.

>>383375354

what setting do you prefer?

>>383373550
>tfw upgraded to general

They were goddamn insane. Like a single one could destroy half a base within a few seconds.

>>383369240
These guys seemed excessive strong honestly, that and the fact that the fire off massive bullets while doing arm pumps makes them fucking awesome.

>>383375509
Ta, anon. Guess I'll check out the HD for the sake of compatibility.

>>383375524
I'm not picky, I'll take anything historical, modern, sci-fi or fantasy. Suppose I should mention I already play Sins on and off, too.

>>383375246
What you described there is called a MOBA.

>>383375246
An ideal RTS appeals to macrofags, microfags, turtlefags, resource jews, rusherfags and so on, and so on.
That is why there are different factions.
Rarely do you see RTS use them for more then being a different coat of detail though.
>m-muh compeditive balance
was the true mistake of the genre.
Drop some crazy factions, have good modding and let the community tweak the balance.

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>>383375246
>assfaggots
>much, much more fun than creating your own bloody and scorched no man's land while battling over territory.
You've successfully baited me.

>>383353428
>tfw playing the campaign on harder difficulties
>enemy gets fully upgraded units by like mission 3
>your upgrades are still locked until 8-9 missions into the campaign

I enjoyed it but holy fuck, give me an AI that is smarter on higher difficulties rather than arbitrary resource bonuses. Lazy difficulty differences holds back the genre so much.

>>383375643
No.

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>>383375354
Some anon posted this forever ago in another RTS thread, I'm sure people could make better ones though.

>tfw have barely touched the genre and suck at it horrifically

I've never been good at multitasking, and properly managing and economy while intelligently attacking as to not exhaust your resources and making sure you counter the enemy's units just seems nearly impossible to do correctly. Still, shame to see the genre die out.

>>383373710
WiC was basically wargame minus the autism.

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The Giga Fortress.
I like how unlike most large, powerful units it doesn't have a deep, menacing sounding voice, but rather a very calm and light voice.

>>383376017
Why is Total War on this?

>>383376017
>have barely touched the genre and suck at it horrifically
there is really few strategies that are used but nobody s willing to make a tutorial to teach you.
You can rush opponent
You can turtle
You can bully opponent(resource denial,land denial ect)
You need to know the mad inside out
You need a plan before you start
and so on

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>>383364609
>>383371405
>tfw we will never get another RTS game about crazy muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rvE8QQcSok

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>>383359052
>>383364334
LIBERATE
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The only sane SupCom posters ITT

>>383373641
>>383373776
yeah this happens when you play against idiots who dont know to build a much cheaper turtle on the opposite side to make a no mans land, then take mountain and air superiority and avoid the enemy site entirely

>>383376298
>map*

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SIZE MATTERS

>>383374616
Battle Realms isn't Tolkien but worth checking out

>>383373589
best unit hands down
rush T2 land fac and spam this shit till you win

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>>383376382
I want that

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Imagine an RTS game that lets you record AI behavior for everything like FFXII gambits.

>>383373589
I dont disagree that these are great, but factions with their mobile shields at t2 can easily overrun them

literally any of the main ships in the homeworld series. the giant land tank in deserts of kharak or the mothership in homeworld 1 + 2, even the mining ship in the old homeworld game that recently got a digital release

>>383376287
Its a beginners guide and a beginner might think
>RTS = Supreme commander of an army

thanks thread, now I'm downloading coh 1 again

>>383376017
what's wrong with C&C4

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>>383352503
Is Total War RTS? If so Town Watch from Rome 1.

Combination of cape, large shield and spear.

Second place is Photonman from first AoE.

>>383376740
Have you played the remaster?
How does it stack up?

>>383376017

this needs to be updated with 8 bit armies on there

>>383376961
remaster is good but i had some visual glitches. i heard they got patched. the homeworld games are definitely some of the coolest rts games out there with a killer atmosphere and quite unique gameplay.

>>383371113
my third place

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>>383374814
>Summoners summonig Demons summoning Imps
I loved this game

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>>383376647
Cool robot.

>>383377087
cool I may give it a spin

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roman troops were pretty comfy in settlers iv

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Is there any universe that can take on SupCom?
They literally control the entire universe, and a gigantic army can be created anywhere at any time within minutes.

>>383375148
The Shadow class was so broken compared to everything else

>>383377296
The Culture. The answer is always the culture.

>>383377296
how is SupCom's space tech?
ground forces are nice but they can't do shit without ground to fight on

>>383377316
I really loved the design of most ships in Armada, but the Romulans especially.
Shadow was the epitome of Romulan philosophy

>>383377296
universes don't fight each other retard

>>383377296
The lack of FTL drives and reliance on quantum gateways. Spaceships being nonexistent outside cutscenes and even then belonging to non-combat variety. SupCom universe is amongst the weakest Sci-fi settings in term of combat ability I can recall.

>>383377457
>how is SupCom's space tech?
They have quantum gates.
no need to travel in space when you can be anywhere at any time.

>>383377448
>The answer is always the culture.
unless we're talking about the Xeelee
or the downstreamers
i haven't even read the books those two are in I just know this from the spacebattles vs forums

>>383377464
Shadow and Akira class were my favourite designs in A2. Balancing on the other hand was pretty shit. Borg were just copy pasta and 8472 and Cardassians felt like shit. Never really tried the Klingons.
Fed's time freeze field and the Romulan Phoenix were OP as shit

>>383371681
>destroys group of wyverns
>dies against sewer rat

>>383377675
good luck setting up gates while being bombed from space

>>383377457
>Surface area of an earth-size planet = 4*pi*r^2 = 5.101*10^14 m^2.
>Number of Paragons that could fit on said area = (surface area) / (area of one Paragon) = 8.362*10^10.
>Number of Paragons likely to actually be on planet = 10% of area = 8.362*10^9.
>Mass/second = 10,000 * no. of Paragons = 8.362*10^13
>No. CZARs per second = (mass/second) / (CZAR cost) = 1.858*10^9
>= 1 billion 858 million CZARs a second.
>CZARs produced in one year= (CZARs/second)*(seconds/minute)*(minutes/hour)*(hours/day)*(days/year) = 5.860*10^16 CZARs
>= 58.6 quadrillion CZARs.
CZARs are space capable

>>383375735
Man, one of the things i love in COH and MOW is how the terrain gets fucked over time by the battles, where a village used to stand is now a field full of craters like it was WW1. Is very rare in other RTS.
I also love naval battles and RTS do them like shit because the ships are just "tank but on water"

>>383377834
Terrain was my biggest gripe with Supreme Commander.
The game really needs well designed maps around terrain as a key game factor.

>>383377813
and what are they going to do in space? Ram or shoot a few rockets which I don't even know would work because they are anti-AIR

>>383352503
shockwave unit of dark reign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EID9Uk7OBD0

>>383373642
swarm assault, it was kind of shitty but I liked it too.

>>383377932
probably something with the giant independence day death lasers multiplied by a trillion

>>383377692
I liked Cardy ships but I agree on the balancing. There wasn't any.
All factions followed
>1 scout
>1 destroyer(Except Feds they got 2)
>3 cruisers(1 was artillery unit)
>1 frigate(Support buffs)
>1 science ship(Had 4 goofy powers)
>2 battleships
Which is really unfortunate.
It is as if the guys making it felt they had just another licensed game and wanted to be done with it.
Had some more love been put into it, the factions could have each been given a unique spin and structure.

>>383377834
Agree on the naval combat. Really ticked me of in AoEIII where one expects it to be a major part of the game as befits the era but it fell flat.
I recall one seeing something about a WW2 Naval RTS, Pacific front, but I did not catch the name and in my searches I have only come up with simulators, or that hybrid game where you could command either a plane or ship.

>>383377834
ships COULD work as "tank on water", but they'd need something like the CoH tank controls plus some bonus features like ramming and boarding

>>383352503
agreed, that thing was fucking great. Incredible range as well

>>383378161
Fleet Ops actually did a good job on that and made A2 a really good Star Trek RTS. I used to play MP but unfortunately, most people either have autism or rage quit after a while

>>383378224
The thing about ships is that they are huge and full of weapons, but RTS have them as tank size with one gun only.
SupCom did them pretty well, they worked well with the game scale.

>>383378509
Armada in general had a great modding community and it was for most part intuitive, modding as a beginner was really easy, it did get a bit crosseyed at the notepad editing.
I was always afraid of getting in to RTS MP out of fear of getting stomped,
and especially dodged FleetOps because it already at the time had a really small community.
Heres hoping that their new engine switch works out, but I checked recently and it seems there
already is drama going on behind the scenes.

Shit sucks.

>>383378831
>>383378831
I thought that FO2 was cancelled. It's also a pity that Bridge Commanders MP died a few years ago. Kobayashimaru was great

>>383377296
SupCom is really weak in the space department and the factions rely on the quantum gate network to move around. No quantum gates = no FTL capabilities and we know from the ending of the Cybran campaign that, once the quantum gates get fried, it takes a few years to get them operational again.

That being said, a SupCom ACU is basically a planet-bound von Neumann machine. And the buildtimes in game are canon, meaning that the universe gets extremely strong if it's not destroyed in a matter of hours. But then you whip out the planet busters and the ACU is fucked.

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>>383379071
>https://www.fleetops.net/news
>Last news 2 years ago
>https://www.fleetops.net/forums/features?p=204588#p204588
>The Engine guys having been active for a year
>Devs telling people stop pushing
Call the undertaker.

>>383371681
>I'M DONE FOR

>>383379684
RIP in the Delta Quadrant

>>383374616
Majesty 1 is good. But you don't directly control your units.

>>383371698
>survive to late game as lotus
>come in zapping with an army of master warlocks
>literally unbeatable if you are both teenage mutant turtlemasters

READY TO UNLEASH ELEVEN BARRELS OF HELL

>>383363197
>arming the barely trained masses with the bare minimum to be used as meatshields for the useful stuff
I thought it fit really well

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my password was champion1993 for the longest time

>>383379558
>whip out the planet busters and the ACU is fucked.
Can't they just warp off-world?

What's a good singleplayer "rts" where I can pause the game and issue commands?

>>383380858
Due to setting rationalisation, the amount of stuff you can move through is pretty limited. A single command unit appears to be the maximum for a single transfer.

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*grawr*

>>383381060
Well the ACU is the most Important Unit, just getting that off-world is a small victory

>>383380961
grand strategy games? Victoria 2 is nice but probably easier to start with something like EU3 or EU4.

Stellaris? Less ugly borders.

>>383381060
Didn't the Seraphim have that one gate that could have entire fleets passing through?

>>383381253
No that was the Quantum rift due to Black Sun, Seraphim saw the opportunity and poured through the rift and bomb the shit out of Earth

>>383381253
That was a tear between dimensions caused by Black Sun, wasn't it?

>>383381190
And apparently they are able to manufacture ACU:s only at their main strongholds since ACU:s can't outright make new ACU:s during missions and even the support commanders must be summoned. And even then the amount of ACU and the amount of personnel trained to use them is scarce, if we can believe the in game dialogue. All the parts where the setting makes favours to gameplay without any regard to in-universe plausibility make it very hard to compare against a harder Sci-fi universe.

>>383381253
>>383381438
>>383381454
That raises another question. The Seraphim attacking is a battle against another dimension or universe in itself and not much is revealed about them in the game. Should the whole Seraphim race be included when assessing the strength of the SupCom universe?

>>383377296
>Is there any universe that can take on SupCom?
TA. They have a device to reset the galaxy, or PA with their endgame stuffs like rocket moon, buffed deathstar or ragnarok

>>383369163
*Ctrl-Ks on your path*

>>383381795
The Seraphim are a bunch of super religious pacifist, the commanders they send to purge our universe were seen as "already death and their souls dammed for eternity" for picking weapons.

>>383369163
>shoots a single tactical missile your way
How is that 5000 HP treating you, son?

>>383381795
The Wiki page says the Seraphim are bound by 'The Way' and cannot kill another Sentient although some sever their connection to The Way and become outcasts amongst their own people to carry out military orders

>>383381901
Also, Lore-wise, TA units are even more ridicolous and are capable of building faster than game shows

>>383363352
Great range and they can never miss. I find they make a good combination with catapults and rocs for raiding parties.
they also sound really cute

>>383381901
>rocket moon
>just running planets into other planets as a tactical option
Whatcha gonna do when you can't harvest resources?

Would you prefer a game where resources are hidden (equally) and have to be probed, or do you like to just make facs and pgens and start spamming units? The tradeoff is no memorization for startups, and potentially a much more balanced pace game than "ecoing for 20m then pumping out experimentals" or "t1 spamming everything".

Seraphim ACU's are so fuggin ebin with the HP Upgrades and cannon Upgrades, so easy to shift the early game with an aggresive Seraphim ACU push

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>>383382408
It got buffed in FA.

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>Send your mission orders

Luftwaffe was my favorite PE doctrine

>>383369419
whenever the AI inovkes this they send him into battle immediately. Is it better to use him for defense or offense?

>>383382663
Its actually well detailed, the Seraphim live in worlds with lower gravity, that's why most of their anthropoid weapons are top-heavy with small legs

>>383382698
Does anyone even play Forged Alliance through Steam? I thought all the action was on FAF.

The mother fucking BRICKS in SupCom
The Baneblade
Winged Hussarls
CoH Ostwinds
SC2 upgraded Roaches
Sanctioned Psyker because of the voice
Homeworld 2 Vaygr Destroyers and Battlecruisers

RTS are awesome

>>383382816
Yes, but i think the player count is still only 2k-ish

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>>383382816

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>>383352503
I love NOD so much

>>383382816
I think FAF works with the steam version as well. That being said, the hardcore crowd usually has a disc lying around since 2007.

>>383382663
Sera ACU regen field was actually broken in 3599, and GPG bit the bullet before they could patch it. It is one of the reasons why FAF gathered so much steam so quickly.

>>383375354
Age of motherfucking Empires 2
Supreme Commander FA
Starcraft 2
Dawn of War DC and SS
Company of Heroes
Homeworld saga

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>>383382954
FUCK STEALTH TANKS, they are borderline OP
>Enemy player gets max vet Stealth Tank

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>lvl 15 Blackguard appears out of invisibility
>Crits and poisons your hero killing him in one blow

pssh... nothin personell...

>>383382923
Not all of FAF, BTW. Not obvious how only some are in chat.

>>383382773
backline to kill the enemy melee myth units , and protect him good

>>383368987
>rolling into the enemy's base with a Restored Monolith and an Illusionary Monolith

What sorta changes does FAF muster? I'm tempted to play it but I'm only mediocre at the game

>>383383231
why only some are added to chat*

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>>383376017
>wait for Dawn of War 3

>>383383317
an actual multiplayer community for a start. Fixed Sera regen field and nerfed Restorers alone make it worthwhile.

>>383383317
http://spooky.github.io/unitdb/#/

>>383383017
If you know about FAF what the fuck is going on with the level two defence turrets? The Cybran one is practically useless while the Aion one oneshots large groups of enemies. Giving one faction bit better turrets so things are different is OK but that is ridiculous.

>>383383217
>max vet Stealth Tank
They heal up so fast and deal so much damage that it's almost impossible to take them out when the other person knows what he's doing. The fact that most units with stealth detection just get fucking obliterated doesn't make it any easier too.
But using them is fun

>>383371009
UEF is probably the weakest faction and that you think otherwise shows how ignorant you are
Cybran gets to comfortably play 5 dimensional chess and force the opponent to react to everything
Aeon gets hover tanks as standard, and the best t2 mobile shields (that happen to hover)
Seraphim gets big ass shields and spammy bots

UEF gets T2 bots that cant cope with T1 spam, T2 tanks that are reliant on bad T2 bots for range and mobile shields for survivability, one T3 bot that loses trades with the T3 cybran bot of the same price and another T3 bot that cant cope with T1 spam
UEF ground game relies on building strong points on the field and the Aeon does it just as well

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>>383352503
>Build stargate on a wormhole
>Notice an enemy fleet amassing on the other side of it
>They blow up the gate
>Fire multiple AOE-bombs at the gate
>On the far side of the gate there is a catastrophic explosion and over a hundred ships are now scrap metal

HUMANITY STRONK!

>>383383529
not him but
it used to be that Cybran had the best T2,while UEF got best T3 and Aeon best T1 defenses.
now its all mush-mash trying to balance things out in favor of more aggressive and units spam gameplay.
I really dont like it

>>383369114
i like the look of the vulkoras better

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>>383352503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Mv5eI6dls
min 37:40

>>383360554
>That one faggot who wastes his points on field artillery instead of making more AA-missile tanks and repair vehicles

>>383383842
calling arty was the best thing in the game

>>383382816
>>383382919
people play forged alliance?

sheeeit maybe i should reinstall

All round, what are the benefits of each faction in SupCom FA?

Is the Cybran T2 Mobile Bomb ever worth using?

>>383384018
if you play multiplayer a lot of things are changed in FAF.

in singleplayer T3 UEF is strongest because of crazy long range artilery

>>383384187
the rapid fire mobile cybran artillery is pretty nice too

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>ctrl + f "battlezone"
>no results
come on now

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>>383352503
ROCK'N'ROLL!

>>383384018
UEF, the best faction, has biggest guns on the battleships, best missile cruiser and an unique and very important shieldboat. Their units are bulkier than the rest and they have the best Point Defence turrets in general. Their T3 land units have the biggest first-strike damage known to man. They are somewhat vulnerable against kiddies who like to prolong games to be able to play around with experimentals because they have no direct close combat experimental.

Actually telling everything would take a while, so if the rest of the factions interest you I'll just link you to some other forums discussing the factions: https://www.reddit.com/r/supremecommander/comments/3mj7nh/supreme_commander_forged_alliance_factions/

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Imagine being so armored that low profile as a concept is stupid

House sized walking towers of hatred that not even water stops them, they just lock into anything you tell them and walk past or through anything in the middle. And then shoot a plasma cannon in rapid fire that should be mounted on an airplane.

Fuck yeah Bricks

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>>383384393
>play Kane's Wrath with a friend who only knew Tibwars at the time
>pick Steel Talons while he chose vanilla NOD to spam scorpions
>spam Titans just to fucking crush them
>mfw
aah good times

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ALL SINNERS FEAR THE EMPEROR'S WRATH!

If I really liked TA and SupCom, how's Planetary Annihilation?
Worth a buy if on sale?

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>>383384764
SEARCH 'N' DESTROY!
CRUSH THEM!
GETTIN' BORED!

>>383384724
I keep forgetting that even the smallest engineers are about the size of fully grown trees.

>>383384797
no not really
it's fun to crash a moon into a planet the first few times but past that Supcom is superior in every possible way

>>383384797
the "map is a globe" gimmick wears thin immediately and makes enjoying the game a pain

besides that its just worse all round

>>383371524
"Times of war are upon us."

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>>383384494
This is bullshit, don't listen to this propagandistic Earth apologistic. Cybran are clearly superior because they understand how to transcend the limitations of the human mind. Brackman knew this, and made everything spider like, the superior way of traveling.

Cybran units heal each other and have the best T1 technology out there. Who even needs to get into higher tiers? nobody, that's ridiculous. They have developed an invisible scouting technique to know everything before anyone else knows they know. Stealth Scouts, baby. Once you get into higher techs you'll see how efficient spider everything can be. You can even spider a tank. That's right, a spider tank that shoots rockets and fucks everything like a middle range between artillery and in your face assault. Medusa Artillery shuts down non isolated circuits of the inferior races to fuck them with puny T1 Assault Bots. Imagine that.

Not even water is an impediment to spiders. Tired of water? you can build a destroyer boat that can fucking WALK when it reaches shore, because spider legs can be deployed and used as a walker to keep the onslaught going. Even at T3 the Cybran technology dominates. You can build the BRICK, a stupid concept that can only work thanks to Brackman's superior engineering. That's how you win at Supreme Commander.

Squares and Circles get the fuck out.

>>383385335
>>383384018

games like Supreme Commander?
I don't play a whole lot of RTS, but for some reason SupCom really appeals to me. I think it's the scale of everything + simple controls + unit diversity/experimentals. Also everything just looks really cool yet the whole games is kinda easy on the eyes (environment wise)?
I have many hours in FAF, and wouldn't mind trying out something new.

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Hope you're patient cause I will outlast you.

>>383384797
>how's Planetary Annihilation?
>Worth a buy if on sale?

Eh. No.

The concept of populating celestial bodies sounds nice until you have to play around with the HORRENDOUS user interface and can't even see what the fuck is going on between the tiny units, and that's it if the game feels like working. The fucking game doesn't even work sometimes and gets stuck in the loading screen more often than not. And the actual strategy is pretty limited compared to what you should be doing, and the expansions that fix a lot of the issues are a nickle and dime milking and just... no. That shit is wrong.

>>383385335
kek

>>383384494
of course first strike damage in T3 is completely worthless because staying power matters most there.

Good micro against UEF T3 involves having T1 in front to soak up their first strike damage as overkill and then following through with higher DPS units that dont have the same issues as the enemy

Hellstorm Artillery from Dark Reign

Can't find an image though, cause it's a 20 year old game and no one gives a fuck about RTS anymore.

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>Mechwarrior RTS
>Never ever again

>>383377932
Having 600 trillion fighters per warship is a hell of a thing. Fuck they could all have bb guns and the sheer amount of kinetic energy they can throw your way would take out a star destroyer

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This triggers the NATO players.

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AK47s for everyone!

>>383373641
fuck, I think that's my webm from like 3 years ago

>>383386789
>PVT
>MLRS spam
Like clockwork

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>>383383612
>T2 bots that cant cope with T1 spam
The bots, because of overkill damage and reload -- the tanks can.

>T2 tanks that are reliant on bad T2 bots for range
What's the problem with T2 combat with the Mongoose?

>t2 mobile shields
Yes. Only Sera get t3.

>t3 bots
The Percival is some of the best DPS overall, and each t3 bot has a role.

>>383384008
check out Gyle's casts on youtube

>>383387045
he has been dropping the ball lately.
That nuke jam with a fucking 5 dollar fighter was his best in a long while.

UEF
>I LIKE SQUARES
Cybran
>I LIKE TRIANGLES
Aeon
>I LIKE CIRCLES
Seraphim
>I HATE SYMMETRY

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oh hi can i join too :)

>>383386846
>selects flashbangs
heh... nothing personal mob...