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When did you realize they were hacks?

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When did you realize they were hacks?
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Ninja Turtles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_Mutants_in_Manhattan
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>>383332570

Fuck you I liked it. Best TMNT game in years.
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>>383330826
Never. All of their games (except the licensed ones) are fantastic. Bayonetta and MGR are 2 of the best character action games ever, and Nier Automata is IMO the best game that's come out in a fucking decade.
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>>383330826
And slashes

>>383334243
Awful opinion, and I'm a P* fanboy as well
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>>383330826
When I played MGR, really bottom of the barrel garbage. Most of their games are really shallow and unfun copypastes
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>>383330826
When they wont just put what they make on steam solo and feel the need to attach themselves to soul sucking publishers
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After playing Bayonetta 1 + 2. Besides the core combat system everything about those games is low tier.
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>>383334243
minus MGR, this
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you faggots do realize there are multiple teams in this company right?
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>>383334462
What part is awful?
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nier:a and bayo 2 are pretty cool imo, i didnt really like MGR tho. pretty alright company in my book
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>>383334506
>>383334805
These are actual professed opinions and not ironic jabs at the OP. Depressing.
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bayonetta 1/2, vanquish, metal gear rising, wonderful 101, and nier automata are good
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>>383330826
After playing Bayonetta 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jipey9Evw
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I never got into there games I tried hard I played MGR and thought the gameplay was boring same thing with neir automata they are just so boring to me. I really tried.
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>a company makes good games
>HHHUUUUUUUURRRR FUKEN HAKZZZZ NEW VEGAS GOAT
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>>383330826
I like their games. They're not the best of the best of the best, but they're consistently good with fairly original presentations, and that's all I really want from a developer.

You don't have to be the best to be worth playing, you know.
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>>383330826
When they made Bayonetta and preceded to recreate the same garbage mechanics in all their titles. I wouldn't say they are awful, they just made some bottom of the barrel games when it comes to GOOD action games. Except MGR, that shit is solid gold.

They are one of the least offensive companies, just got too popular and are now very overrated by people who don't know better it's ok to prefer Platinum games don't get me wrong
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When you posted this thread. Thanks for enlightening me. Just kidding faggot
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Transformers
Ninja Turtles
Korra
Bayonetta 2

I guess they've just given up.
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>>383340993
>they just made some bottom of the barrel games when it comes to GOOD action games
Well sure, on the spectrum of "Action games that actually matter", they're on the lower end, but it's not like they're making God of War tier stuff.

Or god forbid, Bamham tier stuff.
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Anarchy reigns is garbage, same with the licensed games.
They've made 2 good games in the last 5 years.
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>>383330826
When they started releasing pc games.
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>>383341478
>but it's not like they're making God of War tier stuff.
You can do more with mooks in God of War 3 than Bayonetta 2 so actually they're making stuff worse than God of War.
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>>383330826
When they rehashed bayonetta moves and mechanics into transformers. also every licensed game they made sucked ass. MGR is also mediocre at best and the only good parts were the last 2 bosses, the rest is pure trash.

The bayonetta deal is also quite the shame but at least ill be able to emulated bayo2 2 in a few years.
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Their games are WAY too cinematic.

>play Bayonetta
>2 hours of cutscenes
>throw it in the garbage

>play MGR
>even more cutscenes, probably rivaling the mainstream Metal Gear titles
>toss it in the trash

>play Wonderful 101
>le ebin quips and "ironic" humor every 5 seconds
>discard it into the refuse bin

I'd say even Undertale had less crappy meme humor.
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korra

hopefully scalebound is..

wait what?
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>>383334243
This, only replaced MGR with W101. MGR is certainly up there though.

Although I haven't played Nier yet.
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When i replayed bayonetta and realized the only fun parts were the boss fights. Although i always thought those game anime action games were gay as fuck. And really, growing up with ninja gaiden 2 and ninja gaiden black spoiled me on perfect control and visceral intense action. Everything else just feels floaty and off in comparison
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>>383341478
God of War is not that bad, the gameplay is shallow but it's decent and entertaining, plus it has compelling story, characters and presentation. I don't know where it would be in the barrel to be honest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnQnIWVTv8

Bamham is the cancer killing video games though, including what there was to kill of God of War.
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>>383330826
Bayonetta 1.
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>>383341716
>probably rivaling the mainstream Metal Gear titles
You have to be trolling, no one could be this stupid
>le ebin quips and "ironic" humor every 5 seconds
You didn't actually play more than 5 seconds of it
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>>383341702
Now that's just a lie. You haven't played either.

>>383342360
Oh, God of War is fine. I got like a scale, right.

At the top, you have your mechanically intricate, polished, and boundary pushing games that ride on enemy aggression without inhibiting or being susceptible to player aggression ala Ninja Gaiden Black, DMC3/4 etc.

Near the top, you have the games that get near that but lack the endgame complexity ala Bayo and most of Platinum's work. They're fine.

In the middle is where I'd put God of War. You can play it, you've got options, but enemies are super easy to punish and susceptible to player aggression and it lacks complexity sorta thing. Your weapons all having massive AOEs probably doesn't help. But if you like it, that's decent. There are much worse things to like.

God of War clones go below that, and Bamham/Asscreed go down the bottom along with all the plain broken games. They're just fucking terrible.
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>>383341716
MGR pandering to Metal Gear fans is one of the things they nailed and had to nail. It's more of a MGS game than that V turd.
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>>383332756
Not hard to accomplish, really
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>>383342904
>You didn't actually play more than 5 seconds of it
Typical excuse, which is not an argument.
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>>383342985
No it's not, in Bayonetta 2 enemies will break out of your combos arbitrarily and you can't even launch them without Witch Time or Umbran Climax.
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Wonderful 101 isn't really very good but the rest of their games are varying levels of competent (barring star fox zero)
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>>383343094
There's nothing to excuse, the full wonder team has great dialogue and their back and forth with all the villains is great
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>>383343402
>There's nothing to excuse, the full wonder team has great dialogue and their back and forth with all the villains is great
That's nothing more than an opinion. Every single second they talked, I was bored out of my mind. I HATE dialogue and story in video games. Give me more gameplay and let the visual novels and cinematic experiences have the story.
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>>383343402
That's called an opinion you utter dipshit, the original poster was saying that he didn't like the banter in Wonderful 101 and then the next person said that "you didn't play the game" is not an argument, which is correct

Stop dodging the point, it's not okay to just handwave someone's complaint by saying they clearly didn't play something
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>>383343254
What would be a list of anything under Platinum but above Bamham?
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>>383330826
when they refused to ever make another Infinite Space and keep crapping out CUH RAY ZEE action games that are carbon copies of each other with a single difference being the skin of whatever IP they're whoring out their crap to.
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When Mikami left after making Vanquish which was their only good game
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>>383343610
>It's shit because I hate ALL dialogue period
Still not an excuse for giving up on W101 then since the game is pure gameplay and ramps up perfectly as you progress
>>383343649
He gave up on it because of something he could have skipped through, so yeah it's a fair assessment to say he didn't give the game a shot
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>>383343689
DmC
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>>383343254
DMC/Bayo enemies being so easy to launch and disable hinders how good they are as games, and is a large part of why Ninja Gaiden is just better, but I agree them just knocking out of combos is bullshit.

>>383343689
God of War, God of War clones, experimental combat games like Maken Shao/Maken X, Way of the Samurai or Bujingai. You could probably make a case for Fromsoftware games but I'm not bringing them up either way.

It's a long list that amounts to "most games that aren't Nightmare Creatures 2."
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>>383342985
>wah Batman
I can understand hating the clones, but the actual Arkham games themselves play fine. They've gotten more complex with each one and Knight especially has enough enemy types to keep it interesting. It's not going to compare with the Ninja Gaidens or the world but it's far from bad.
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>>383344287
>Still not an excuse for giving up on W101 then since the game is pure gameplay and ramps up perfectly as you progress
That's another opinion. its difficulty ego is more inflated than Dark Souls.
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>>383343002
Stop giving Ninja Gaiden fans a bad name. Rising was a good game but you're dickriding it way too hard. It was budget Bayonetta with a Metal Gear coat of paint.
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>>383344539
What actually constitutes as 'bad' combat? Simple ≠ bad, for example Zelda games have simple combat but it's fluid and the way you can use your items for unique effects makes it fun and engaging for the most part.
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>>383344739
Whereas I'd say that Zelda is so braindead and boring it's actively painful to play, and your opinion is so awful that you should try out the Batman games, you'd like them.
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>>383344739
Good combat gives you tons of superfluous moves, a pointless style meter, and the ability to endlessly juggle braindead enemies like an autist.
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>>383344881
Good combat gives you complexity, enemy aggression, and incentive to get better at the game instead of just playing through it once when you're 6 and then getting a tattoo of it, yes.
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>>383344732
How can it be budget Bayonetta when it's superior to Bayonetta in literally every way?
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>>383344739
Simple combat is fine if the game is balanced around that. Combat in something like Zelda 2 or classic Castlevania is more enjoyable than shit like DMC where regular enemies don't pose a threat.
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>>383344723
The only true difficulty curve is from learning to pull out wonder forms quickly, which becomes second nature as you gain more powers and by the time you have the party size to accommodate 3 or 4 forms at the same time you should be able to quickly snap them out
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>>383344985
So Ninja Gaiden is the only game with good combat?
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>>383345197
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>>383330826
When they went full SJW with W101.
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>One anons just been on a fucking warpath against Platinum all day
Being unemployed and having too much time and poking into all the popular thread at once and seeing all the same people clearly posting is really weird.
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>>383345197
You don't have to be the best to be worth playing. You don't have to be anywhere near the best to be worth playing.

But casting off all attempts to be or recognize good combat as autismal and using that to glorify some mediocre combat as being secretly the best using some flowery tertiary elements, ain't gonna win you any points.
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>>383345349
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>>383345197
Ninja Gaiden is fucking shit man. All of them.
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>>383341716

>when you're so bad at video games you ragequit over skippable cutscenes
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>>383345197
No, but it is the best
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>>383345173
it's too easy to pull off. It's not rewarding. I'd say even Kirby is harder to play.
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>>383345602
>Responding to ACfag
Don't do that.
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>>383341716
>That reaction image
>Complaining about cutscenes in action games
This is ACfag, do not give him replies.

In fact. This is more than likely his thread.
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Well their licensed games are by definition hack jobs in a non-pejorative sense, since they're usually brought in on a low budget and short deadline. I don't think their bad though, they just need to stop being treated as glorified code monkeys and get more opportunities to cut loose. At this point "Platinum" is more code for "the publisher couldn't figure this out with their own internal dev teams, so they brought us in to do their work for them on a rushed schedule."
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>>383345282
Oh yeah I forgot about God Hand. So that and Ninja Gaiden are the only games with good combat.

>>383345481
I never said anything about mediocre combat being "the best". All I said is Arkham isn't terrible. They can't hang with stuff like DMC and NG but they also are 100% combat focused like they are.

>>383345540
You got stuck at Murai, didn't you?
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>>383345646
That's not even an opinion, it's just wrong.
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>>383345707
If the gameplay is so good then why does it need cutscenes to go with it?
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>>383345683
>>383345707
>>383345868
>>383345842
>being triggered so hard by criticism that you call for a safe space away from those "evil dissenting opinions"

I don't think 4chan is the right site for you fellas.
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>>383345683
>>383345707
>ACfag
Okay I am apparently out of the loop but why is he called ACfag? The only franchises I can think of using those initials are Animal Crossing and Armored Core and neither of those have anything to do with this discussion.
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>>383345868
Because I like having both.
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>>383345803
>You got stuck at Murai, didn't you?
nice assumption there friendo but no

ninja gaiden has a solid basis for combat, like most team ninja games, but is overall designed very poorly and fails to follow through with engaging design on basically any of its bosses, let alone the spammy as fuck basic enemies

even nioh has this problem but it's far better
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>>383346003
It's not criticism, it's autism
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>>383346009
he's called ACfag because he wants every game to be like Assassin's Creed, and thinks open world games are the apex of video games.
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>>383345803
What even would have worse combat than Batman/Assassin's Creed without being flatout broken, then? All that comes to mind at some PS1 hack n slashes that were pretty borderline broken and probably made by Acclaim.

If being the worst - but playable - isn't terrible, then I envy your standards.

Maybe I'm just buttmad because Bamham/Assassin's Creed nixed platforming as well. Whatever, as long as you're not trying to blow smoke up anyone's ass you can enjoy what you want.

>>383346009
Armored Core. Longstanding figure, has earned himself a rep out of pure salt.
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>>383346139
They're the only games with aggressive and challenging enemies. That alone makes them better designed than their contemporaries. NG2 had some balance issues and annoying rocket spam but Black is pretty much perfect.
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>>383334243
>character action

*hack 'n slash
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>>383346330
Fuck that. I know people don't want videogame genres to be the next music genres, but I don't want to have to flick through a billion Diablo/Sacred/Titan Quest alikes every time I've looking for something fun.

Or failing that, "action". Like half of games released get tagged as fucking action, including turnbased games.
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>>383346330
>hack 'n slash
*action
What happened to just calling them action games?
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>>383346483
>>383346518
Action is fine too. Character action is gay as fuck.
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>>383346263
Musou combat, or Drakengard 3, or Witcher 3, or FFXV, etc. Tons of games have worse combat. And keep in mind I'm not denying Arkham clones aren't shit. They generally handle the combat system far worse than the actual Arkham games.
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>>383346589
Oh yeah, I forgot about Musous. I guess they're the worst, huh.

Well, can't be right every time.
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>>383346564
Gay as fuck is just an adjustment period. It's either Character Action/Spectacle Fighter or DMC-clone, because I do not want to trudge through literally thousands of games released on any one platform that are tagged as fucking action to get to that considered standard of quality.

Refusing to give it a sub-genre means making it compete with digital shelf space with the likes of Uncharted or Call of Duty. Is that the future you want?
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P* is fine as a developer as long as you dial your standards in with the game's budget. Their budget stuff is somewhat crappy and that is to be expected.
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>>383346860
Where is the line drawn, are Vanquish and NieR: Automata """""character action/spectacle fighter"""""?
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>>383346860
The only subgenre I will concede is hackanslashan. They're not fighting games so spectacle fighter makes no sense and character action is the stupidest fucking forced meme this side of Milhouse. Uncharted is a 3rd person cover shooter/adventure game, CoD is an FPS.

Diablo can learn to fucking share it's genre class. There aren't even that many like it anymore.
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>>383347240
Sure, why not. Just use it as a word for "action game that gives a fuck and tries to be good", I don't give a fuck. That's all I want. It doesn't have to make sense.
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>>383330826
>When did you realize they were hacks?
When /cgg/ killed them
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They're unironically hacks because they make the same shit and that one 3ds game.
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>>383347537
Oh well. Blue Sky were unironically hacks and kept pumping out Wizardry, they were still good at it.
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>>383341478
What do you consider "action games that actually matter" afaik platinum is the only company making this style of action games
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>>383348251
These are literally the only action games that matter.
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>>383347537
They're good at it, and don't pretend to be anything more than that, nothing wrong with focusing on a style
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>>383335462
That's the point.

The work of multiple teams and the the company name is still trash.

The game
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>>383348350
>I only play four games because other people told me these are the best!
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>>383346139
(You)
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>>383348251
Just anyone. They don't have to fully succeed. Even include Bamham and Musous, it still saves filtering through so many games - and there's so many goddamn games - that are tagged action or hack n slash. I'm not going to throw a temper tantrum because there's a couple of games in my previous subgenre that don't live up to my standards.

The idea is just to reduce a pool of thousands of games I do not care about to a few dozen/couple hundred games, a fair few I'll at least try.
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>>383346329
>but Black is pretty much perfect.

It really isn't, not with all those 0 start up frame grabs the enemies do.
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>>383348350
Half of those were made by platinum/clover so it's hard to say the games they make don't matter
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MGR and Bayo are two of the most fun games I've ever played. Even if the game design is bad it's still fun as fuck
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>>383349108
The only bad design in Bayonetta is that the best boss in the entire game is locked behind the fucker Harrier chapter and that half of the collectibles are locked behind arbitrary stuff like needing to kill the last enemy of Verse 7 with a Torture Attack to get a Witch Heart.
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>>383346860
>DMC clone

Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden were developed simultaneously.
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>>383348350
Listen to this man >>383348603

You're a sheep anon.
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>>383349356
>Momiji

MUUUHHH DIIICKKK!

Excellent taste anon! You are officially muh nigga.
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>>383349685
Kasumi=Momiji>Ayane>Rachel

I like them all though
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>>383349948
>Kasumi=Momiji

The fuck is wrong with you? Your muh nigga card has been revoked.
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>>383349948
Don't know about NG-wise, but DOA-wise, for me it'd be:
>Rachel
>Momiji
>Ayane
>Kasumi

Kasumi is too bland personality-wise.
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>>383350393
You telling me you wouldn't want your head crushed by her thighs?
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>>383350440
Younger self is telling me Kasumi, but older self is telling me otherwise. She's too serious and one-track minded.

Also, she's a rushdown character in DOA and I hate rushdown characters in fighting games in general.

Those are some mighty thighs though and she got me into thighhighs. She would almost be ultimate waifu material because she does hit a few right spots. Almost.
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>>383350384
You're nigga card means nothing compared to perfection. Keep it.

>>383350393
>Kasumi is too bland personality-wise.

I don't understand this meme. She's just nice and sweet, why must everyone have a meme quirky personality? I should have put Ayane last just to spite you all.

As far as gameplay goes:

Kasumi(RE)>Momiji(RE)>Ayane(RE)>Rachel(S1)>Rachel(S2)>Momiji(S2)>Ayane(S2)
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>>383351012
Momiji does the nice and sweet thing better though.
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>>383351171
>Better

*shrug*
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>>383344467
>Ninja Gaiden is just better
>DMC enemies too easy to launch
Anon we're all aware of the shitposting beats in these threads by now. Just follow the script and stop trying to freestyle. Freestyling isn't ninja gaiden's strong suit anyway.

Besides both DMC 3 and 4 have more enemy types that CAN'T be launched than enemy types that do. You are probably just thinking that the standard early enemies which are mostly combo dummies are the only enemies, not for the sake of shitposting but maybe just out of ignorance.

I won't even mention bayonetta since like everyone is already aware, those games are a lot closer to the middling gow tier of games.
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>>383334243
>No mention of TW101
Put it on your list, dude, seriously.
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>>383352594
It's fun and all, but the purposefully static camera work dilutes it a fair bit.
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>>383346330
Hack n Slash is what steamies call them, which is ironic because you'd think PCfags would know the origin of the term Hack n Slash in the first place.
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>>383352043
Bayonetta is better by virtue of having enemies actually try to attack you.
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>>383348829
Literally only one of those games had anything to do with clover/platinum. Itsuno did dmc2 and beyond, Mikami joined/co-founded platinum after God hand, and bayonetta shouldn't be on that grid anyway.
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>>383352839
Your oldschool cRPG/Rogue/blobber/Diablo mustards are a dying breed, and they're all over on Codex and other faggot depositories.
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>>383352930
>Literally only one of those games had anything to do with clover/platinum.
God Hand is from clover, and Bayo is from platinum, whether or not bayo "belongs" is irrelevant, are you a fucking idiot?
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>>383352667
>the purposefully static camera
Is necessary to keep the right analogue stick free to do morphs, which are also necessary for the game's core to work.
It's all or nothing, dude. The package is set.
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>>383330826

Haven't gotten there yet. Just beat Bayonetta 2 and I had a blast doing it.
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>>383352879
>Le combo dummy maymay
In dmc the only "non aggressive enemies" are the reaper types in 3 and the "scarecrow" types in 4. That includes their variants. Outside of those there are ranged enemies, armored enemies, berserker enemies, literally all designed to require counterplay to either break their defense or aggressive play to actually juggle them. Don't pretend just saying an enemy can be juggled means they don't pose a threat or require skill to defeat.
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>>383353124
Like I said, only one.
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>>383352043
That's because DMC 3 and 4 have a bunch of lame enemies to pad the numbers, you fight enemies that can be launched most of the time.
Also it's a good fucking thing that they can't do shit to you while you are up in the air, wears in Ninja Gaiden missing a launch means you just fucked up and need to unfuck yourself before you get rekt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuTWweDLdU

You cannot compare the numbers. Launching in NG is only extremely effective in the second game. In the first it's guaranteed against low tier versions of enemies and in the 3rd it usually requires set up for all but the lowest tier enemy.

Not that anon by the way.
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>>383345282
how do you do the stomp launcher thing?
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>>383353875
Do you even know what Clover and Platinum have done?
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>>383354057
Up + Triangle over an enemy who is on the ground, you can charge it too.
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>>383346860
What the fuck is "character" in "character action" supposed to mean? Why would the defining characteristic of this action game genre be focused on controlling a character when that describes literally every single action game? The term doesn't do anything to describe what the game actually does. compare it to:
FPS
TPS
Puzzle
Adventure
Point and Click (adventure or not)
Horror
RPGs have a whole fuckload of sub genres that all define how they operate (despite most modern RPGs barely involving actual role-playing, but that is beside the point for this discussion and is more relevant to topics of industry history)
SHMUPs
Platformers
Turn based or real time strategy
All of these genre names are descriptive of WHAT you're actually playing. Shit, MOBA is a more descriptive genre title than character action.

Why not call them "Arcade Action" because of the importance placed on score and repeated playthroughs? It would at least have a fucking basis on what you're getting into.
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>>383354465
>Why not call them "Arcade Action" because of the importance placed on score and repeated playthroughs? It would at least have a fucking basis on what you're getting into.
Call them whatever. Who cares. Call them fucking "stickyfightboys".

"Hey what's your favourite stickyfightboy?"
"What the fucks a stickyfightboy?"
"It's an action game that doesn't wholeheartedly suck incredibly amounts of grey, bland dick."
"Oh, I'm a big fan of Bayonetta."

I'm in it for games, not semantics. Semantics are just a tool to sort out the completely worthless games from ones I might like.
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>>383354225
the uppercut is the same too right?
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Vanquish had some really cool aspects, but overall it wasn't that good.
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>>383355049
That one is Down + Triangle once an enemy is in a launched state and then you can send them flying with a high kick with Up + Triangle if they're still in a launched state.
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>tfw you want to call the genre "Style 'em up" but the term never catches on
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>Playing Automata
>Defeat 2 Goliaths and do the whole city disaster sequence
>Go get mail to kill the Yorha betrayers
>Track them down and fight them twice
>Fight their boss
>Game crashes out of fucking nowhere within a minute after I finish the quest
I just lost 45 mins of progress by no fault of my own

No autosave after major story events is fucking bullshit, I don't even know if I want to keep playing
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>>383330826
When i found your thread op.

Nice Argument!
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>>383330826
I haven't, I don't really like their games most of the time, I wasn't MGRs biggest fan, and I don't care about bayonetta, but they aren't bad games. Platinum is decent enough with their titles.
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>>383341273
You clearly didn't play Wonderful 101.
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>>383334243
If they weren't hacks their licensed games would be good.
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>>383348350
>Bayo over W101
Nope.
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>>383356879
>W101 over Bayo
Pure Nope
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Platinum Game, they can have the s when they're not all the same.
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>>383348813
Much better than Sigma. :^)
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>>383358195
:^)
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>>383355393
Automata might be the smoothest game Taro shat out but it's the most broken one.
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>>383334243
>Nier Automata is IMO the best game that's come out in a fucking decade.
Nier is the best game I played since DS and Dragon's Dogma, it's a solid 8/10. Dunno if game of the decade but it's up there (this is a very shitty decade anyways). I still need to play BotW though.
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Can't wait for Bayo 3, VJ3 and TW102
all Switch exclusive
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>>383330826
>When did you realize they were hacks?
When I played Nier.
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>>383360556
>DS
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>>383334243
>Bayonetta and MGR are 2 of the best character action games ever, and Nier Automata is IMO the best game that's come out in a fucking decade.
You must have incredibly low standards.
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>>383330826
When they didn't port Bayonetta 2 to PC.
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>>383354465
"Melee action game" or "3D beat 'em up" would be more descriptive of the kind of games they englobe. I mean, Golden Axe is still called a beat 'em up.
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>>383344078
infinite space was shit
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>>383361260
Infinite Space
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>>383361314
3d beat em up works fine too. Certainly fits God Hand, at least.
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>>383362775
Are there any other games like God Hand out there?
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>>383345349
What do you mean?
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>>383330826
Vanquish is their only good game. And that says a lot about them as developers.
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>>383363926
>And that says a lot about them as developers.
That Mikami was the only talent at the studio?
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>>383334243
>Nier Automata is IMO the best game
Fuck off. I wasted 50 bucks for this shit game.
>muh 2b ass
>muh singing in every fucking ost makes it great
>godawful combat
>dialogues are jrpg tier
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Bayonetta and Transformers are decent, Vanquish and MGR are good, didn't like NierA.
they're ok but nothing to brag about.
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>>383351651
>640x360
>1.4mb
>blurry as fuck

Nigga you have 1.6 more space, up the quality on that shit WebM. Do Momiji some justice.
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>>383365670
I don't even have any software for webms, it's all done with online converters and online shit to make gifs out of Youtube. You do it.
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>>383330826

Ask your mom, little one.
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>>383360676
>Switch exclusive anything
Not worth it for anyone but Nintendo themselves
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>>383366057
Don't ever post this blurry garbage again, you are embarrassing my waifu.
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How the fuck do I git gud at Bayo 1? I want to get pure plat on Hard but instead I'm happy when I get through a chapter without dying.
Do I absolutely need that accessoire that makes the enemies constantly mad?
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>>383366594
Learn to Dodge Offset.
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>>383366456
>Your

:^)
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all their game stories are literal retard shit for children or look at my tits and ass ooohh titillating isn't it you dirty basement dwelling retard gamers
they are literally nes tier and they're holding videogames back
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>>383366730
longest trail of spit ever
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>>383366594
>Do I absolutely need that accessoire that makes the enemies constantly mad?
It helps a lot with your combo meter which is the most annoying thing to get to Platinum
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>>383366818
It's got some extra ingredient holding it together

lol never noticed that
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>>383344539
what clones? sleeping dogs is the only game I can think of that has batman style combat and it's infinitrly better because the counter windows aren't as long, enemies don't fucking come at you one at a time and they your agression has to be balanced whereas in batmam you can either mash x until everyone is dead or counter every enemy as their timing is always predictable and they'te overly aggressive (but never all at the same time because of course that would be tooooo hard)
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>>383367087
Yeah, cum
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>>383366818
>Spit
Look again
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>>383367153
Don't be vulgar anon
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I don't think they're hacks but I think they only really know how to make one type of game. MGR, Bayonetta etc all feel extremely similar, and the one game they made that I can think of that didn't follow their usual formula was Star Fox Zero which was trash. They're great at one very specific thing without much evidence they're great at anything else.
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>>383366687
Should I use the Moon of Ayy Lmao at all? It seems like a great thing on paper but I always find myself just dodging because parrying is risky af
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>>383367328
sauce good anon
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>>383367461
Yeah that's a really good item especially for the Jeanne fights, Bracelets of Time are even better.
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>>383367495
Darsovin
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>>383367716
Good shit, thanks
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>>383368050
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>>383330826
Tomorrow
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>>383367716
>>383367328
Ive been wanting to watch more 3D porn but the only ones i find is blurry or pixelated 3 minute clips on pornhub. Is there a good site that specializes in this? More doa girls is a plus
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define hack you 3rd world mouth breathing brazil monkey
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>>383368265
Most of the stuff produced is only like 10 second animation loops unfortunately. StudioFow made some pretty great 30 minute long movies for Kasumi and Momiji respectively, a small one with both of them and a couple shorter ones with some other doa girls. Just be aware that it's not vanilla stuff. They are also the only good movies they have done, an Ayane one is in the works but given their recent efforts and drama shit it's doubtful it will be on par.

As for the other stuff you will find most of it on rule34hentai for example, just make sure you have some adblock and script blocking stuff on your browsers to stop all the fucking ads. Almost all the stuff you will find there you will also find on the respective author's tumblr page.
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>>383363627
Nothing that's a 1:1 likeness, that's for sure. Mad World controls somewhat similarly at the surface and has a similar camera angle, but the move list is obviously very different as well as the tone. It feels like some design philosophies from God Hand impacted Mad World and Vanquish, but no games have really captured what made God Hand unique (for better or worse).
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>>383346518
Games like Tomb Raider and Uncharted are action games too, but they're nothing like DMC, Bayo or MGR. I don't like "character action" but we do need a term for them.

>>383352839
I'm a mustard and hack'n'slash will always be games like Diablo for me.
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>>383369613
tomb raider: action/adventure
uncharted: tps
bayonetta, dmc, mgr: hack and slash
god hand: beat 'em up
I will never understand this need to create new names for genres when they have existed since forever
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>>383369785
There's a bit of irony in this post.
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>>383330826

You can't fault them for their C team working with a shitty company like activision without enough resources

Transformers was pretty decent though
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>>383330826

The ones who brought my wife to life could never be hacks.
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