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*kills Paladins and Overwatch*
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>>383315339
Gigantic is pretty fun but the Microsoft store is fucking trash and made me quite
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>no chat
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>>383315339
Two different games m80
>>383317460
>wanting to chat with randoms beyond VGS
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>>383315339
I wish. We'll see how well it fares when they hit Steam in two weeks. also

>>383317460
this is fucking frustrating. if voice at least had PTT I wouldn't mind it so much but open mic is a mess.
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>>383317345
quite what faggot
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>>383315339
Love the game, but I worry that Motiga will drop the ball on advertising it. It had a decent ball rolling since the E3 reveal, but its now in the "Literally who?" tier. Not releasing on Steam isn't helping either.
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>>383317617
>>383317594
Wait, they're releasing it on Steam?
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Please don't invite shitposting into these threads. Better to die early than 230 posts of shitflinging

>>383317460
They better have this shit by the steam release. I almost quit because people are so stupid, you pretty much have to function as some sort of hivemind.

>>383317617
They are releasing on steam though. The 20th of this month. Stellar advertising they have huh?
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>>383317703
July 20th
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I've heard good things about this game, actually.
Shame it's gotten zero exposure since E3 2016.

>MS gives them funding in exchange for platform exclusivity
>on a platform in which they aren't marketed or promoted
>with no outside advertisement at all
must suck to be the devs
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>>383317460

no chat is the future

paladins used to have no chat and it was 100x better

if you really want to talk to your team and tryhard you would get a voip

most likely you just want to flame randoms everytime you die
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>>383317731
>>383317787
wew, maybe there's a chance it won't die in a month then
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>>383317703
http://store.steampowered.com/app/327690/Gigantic/
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>>383317594
>when they hit Steam in two weeks

n-nani?
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>>383317820
since I'm retarded and can't read I take back the part of this post about platform exclusivity

although maybe the argument could still be made since the beta was only on the windows store
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>>383317864
q times arent too bad an the Arc client right now (which is on 7-8.1 again)
But no one likes another launcher so it cant survive for long outside the valley of Steam.
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>>383317874
Thank fucking god because Microsoft store is garbage. There's this annoying error that could randomly occur when updating the game. The update would just stop, give you an error code and won't update. Customer support couldn't do jack either and kept passing it on the other employee.
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>>383315339
>Needs 6gb of ram just to run the game

and yet even overwatch or paladins works in my shitty machine.
>>383317617
Making a deal with Microsoft was already a really dumb move. They also haven't advertise it at all except for maybe a few threads here on /v/ shitting on everyone for not playing the game.
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>>383315339
Don't forget Battleborn.
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>>383317594
>>383317787
>>383317874
>from games for windows to steam

dammit, I hate biting the fucking bullet
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>>383317874
I want to pet that giant cat bird.
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>>383315339
>no support for DX11
ha
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>>383318283
whats the problem, lad?
Now you can finally get rid of 10.
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>>383318372
I've had bad times with steam before and I'm not thrilled to go back, especially with an multiplayer only title
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I remember confusing this with another third person MOBA game that had better graphics but was generic as fuck.

If some one knows what I'm talking about, is this game any better than that one? I regret downloading the other one.
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>Perfect World has something to do with it

As much as i despise OW and Paladins, only thing Gigantic is going to kill is itself.
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>>383318492
Well you can avoid it for another 2 weeks with Arc. But i feel you, every day i wish i could get rid of Steam, but then i redeem another few keys and i hate myself for succumbing to the sheer convenience.
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>>383318727
To be fair, who you actually want the game to be publish by?
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>>383315339
Any waifus?
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>>383318514
Better than Paragon? By far. All that game had going for it was graphics.
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Art style is cool as shit but i hate these mobashooters, the mkba elemebts are beyind sluggish and it ruins the fast pace that makes shooters fun in the first place
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>>383318728
>Arc
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>>383318874

I'll take absolutely anything over Perfect World. Even Ubisoft or EA or even fucking Blizzard.
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>>383318728
I usually shop on gog even if it's usually more expensive simply because there's no client required to play or even just install anything, plus if steam goes down but gigantic servers are fine you're SOL and JWF
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>>383318916
Yeah that was the name.
I'll at least check this one out then.
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>>383318950
its a so-so client, desu but i never had any problems with it.
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>>383315339
*sells 200k copies in a year*
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>>383318728
I hate steam but fuck me I love that controller. Also quite a big fan of putting my installed library all in one easy to view grid.
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>>383318887
You like tentacles?
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>>383318887
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>No waifus
Dead on arrival
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>>383318887
only this one. Every other girl is full tumblr
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>>383315339

>gigantic
>killing anything

Maybe it would, if its waifu/husbando game wasnt so weak and it wasnt a windows 10 exclusive
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>people defending no chat

Holy shit, ASSFAGGOT players are subhuman trash. Literally safe-zone tier thinking, like Overwatch's lack of stats because "hurr its a teem gaem." I hate you fucks
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>>383318887
Only the best,
C U T E incoming.
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op's thread is as bad as torn banners PR for the game they made after chivalry, Mirage
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>>383318887
she got thighs bro
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>>383318887
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>>383319358
Anon it's the hearthstone babbies
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>>383319424
Why does she has stupid grandma hair on every other pics?
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>>383319358
>thinking i dont want chat for any reason but being burnt out from the retards in other ASSFAGGOTS
VGS is all i need.
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>>383319358
If they must include a chat, give an option to disable it
win-win
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>>383315339
A cool looking bird of prey
A cute and fuzzy rat
A slick and agile gazelle
And ..some kind of dark shadow ..lady
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>>383319723
Shes scottish so its probably a sheep joke.
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>>383319358

t. flames team every time he dies
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>>383319723
Her squire skin gives her a ponytail, but she loses the cute coat.
I like her cotton-ball hair though.
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i want it on ps4
my computer is to SHit to run it
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>>383319358
judging by the chat in most others that's probably a blessing
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>>383315339
*kills Overwatch*
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>>383320117

Yeah I wish you Sonybros had it also. Paragon is shit in comparison. At least we both got SMITE.
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>>383320132
>Look up a video of a character that used to be in the game
>Read the chat
>"LANAAAAAA"
>mfw they're reciting fucking Archer jokes
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Nothing can kill Blizzdrones.

Blizz has been trying for years
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>>383320282
paragon has not been so bad as of late and a big update is happening on august getting rid of the deck system.
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>>383320516

Like now more shitty card mechanics? Are they replacing it? I might re-download it if so. It's the prettiest moba on the market for sure.
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>>383320516
did they ever finish remaking the map or can you still see where the world ends because there's a giant hole in the wall on the top lane?
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>>383320612
It's only pretty because UE4 makes that Easymode. Both it and SMITE have trash tier gameplay.
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>>383319871
Tripp is weird. She's supposed to be an assassin with electrical powers yet nothing she does really takes advantage of said powers.
>throws an electrified dagger that acts like a regular dagger
>performs a sliding kick that launches enemies
>turns invisible in a burst of.. electricty?
It feels like they came up with a kit for a regular assassin and decided to make the design lightning themed purely for flair.
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>>383320357
>friend recently started playing smite and invited me since I played for a awhile before him
>playing against bots so he can get the hang of it
>memes and rage in all caps the whole game
>same thing when we switch to regular matches

the funniest part is when brazilians yell at you and they can't understand you when you respond back
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>>383320516
Wait, but wasnt the deck system Epic's big gimmick?
Are they getting rid of item builds altogether?
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>>383318887
No female furs yet
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>>383318958
>EA
>Gigantic is about to have a massive content update
>EA pulls the plug before the update because it wasn't pulling in numbers like League of Legends

fuck you EA I wanted Dawngate to succeed
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>>383320854
One of the upgrade paths for Electric Slide makes it so it slides through enemies an inflicts Massive Shock. Other than that it just makes he really fast I guess?
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>>383320612
they are replacing the deck system with a shop system and cards cost currency that you can buy.
August is also doing some major map touch ups
Most cards are getting reworked
Every character is getting balance changes
Affinities are getting reworked as well.
They are saying the game is changing more than the monolith update.
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>>383321030
Isn't Mozu a girl?
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>>383320980
no there big gimmick was LE EPIC SKILL SHOT MOBA
but half the cast has auto lock moves. smite has more skill shots as of late.
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>>383321139
that shock is fuckin deadly to people that don't know about it

>alright made it away from tripp with low health
>what's this weird skull thing
>explodes in electricity, killing you and your fellow teammate that was fleeing with you
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>>383321151
Yeah but shes an annoying little rat shit not a really furry if you ask me. Uncle Sven is baller though still waiting on a basketball skin.
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AY YO, HOL UP


Can somebody tell me what the FUCK this is
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>>383321265
i dont know man, they were pretty huge on MUH EXPANSIVE DECK.

Smite skillshots are fun, Paragon could unironically be the best moba if it was atleast as fast as smite.
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>>383321368
a 70's neon-future skater aesthetic vomit mess
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Wait, they're finally breaking away from that piece of shit Arc?
That's fantastic but they've taken far too long. Its a fun game but they're dead in the water now
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>>383321368
Haven't met one good zandora player.
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>>383321109
Man I really liked Dawngate... I even downloaded some of the soundtrack to my playlists. I really liked the 'gold gatherer units' objective and the post game honor system linked to getting loot and heroes for free.

EA truly pulled off a dick move; the devs for the game were just showing off the game at E3 or PAX or some other games con and the next day E3 pulled the plug abruptly from them. They literally just announced they were going to release a new ice-wall-spawning spellcaster.

I really loved the blood mage/vampiress support character.
I really loved the loli doll support character that went inside allies.
I really loved the weekly comics where they showed you the game's lore and character interactions that were affected by the community voting on decisions with how often certain characters were played.

And then EA fucked it all.
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>>383321453
well the gameplay is certainly faster than what it was before.
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>>383321368
its not tumble inspired apparently, just lots of G L A M.
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>>383321368
A star warrior or something. She's pretty ugly honestly.

>>383321627
I tried to play her, but no one wanted to stay in my aura. That's what made me pissed about the no chat thing. I can't tell them to get in my aura for buffs.
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>>383321648
i will never forgive EA for being impatient with this game. it felt like League when it was still fun and the lore was still being shown to us for the first time.
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>>383321109
>>383321648
My brethren.
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After having to fire half of their employees they've realized that making another fucking moba exclusive to w10 or some obscure pc platform is not a good idea
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>>383318887

Imani is CUTE!
I love her poofy collar!
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>>383321927
She gave BUFFS?! lol I didn't even know that. Thats what happens when new heroes come out and you don't have chat to inform people. Then again I think no chat is worth to avoid toxicity..
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>>383321109
>>383321648
is there anything EA hasn't ruined?
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>>383322102
>>383322023
>>383321368
>>383320854
>>383319723
>>383319424
>>383319252
>>383319096
These character designs are hot garbage. Nearly battleborn-tier.
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>>383322023
Goddamn that's arousing.
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>>383322140
>Then again I think no chat is worth to avoid toxicity..
fuck off
why even play a team game if youre so afraid of someone calling you a faggot that you would rather remove communication. the whole point of a team game is the ability to work with your fucking team and you cant do that in this shit
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>>383322267
>Nearly battleborn-tier.
Zandora is the only ackward one, desu.
Gigantic has a nice aesthetic.

>a tiny scottish girl with a huge sword that can summon and banish a knight's soul to fight with you
>bad
Hello Blizzard rep.
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>>383322267
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>>383322267
low quality bait
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>>383322140
Jesus, I was right. Her red one buffs, her blue speeds up movement, and green heals you. Play her in the practice mode some time. No matter their reason, we need chat. I don't give a fuck about toxicity, I can't even coordinate with these apes. They don't even listen to pings.
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>>383322535
Gigantic is way too fast a game to warrant needing regular chat.
Its like you forget all the shitters who can only type 4WPM stopping to type EVERY LITTLE THING and throwing the game.

And fuck rando mics, its always Bonglord420 and IronicXshitposter69.
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>>383322404
The whole point of no chat is to stop the community from becoming a toxic cesspit like league's. You can still call out objectives and use the in game voice wheel. I'm on the fence about having no chat but I know that if we did have chat people would be bitching at one another for simple shit and that would throw the team off.
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>>383321109

Why did you bring up Dawngate you piece of shit. Those wounds were already closed.
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>>383322793
push-to-talk is the only thing we really need.

that and a ping wheel that actually displays all the options and pings at the map point your cursor is on
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>>383322474
>>a tiny scottish girl with a huge sword that can summon and banish a knight's soul to fight with you

Yes, that's stupid as fuck as premise. You probably only like her because you're a fucking loser obsessed with lolis. Plus the actual design of the character is trash and unaesthetic.

>>383322491
>>383322531
Are you desperate for people to play your game or something, shills? Pic related, good character design.
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>>383322897
>muh tf2
Ah, so youre a valve drone, that makes sense.

And no, i also like xeno and vadasi.
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>>383322897
jokes on you, I think TF2 has amazing character design as well
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>>383322404
literally no one wants to listen to douchebags who can't control their temper

every time some sperg calls me faggot I specifically sabotage the game for them at every chance however I can
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>>383315339
*dies to battleborn*
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>>383322897
Again
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Why the hell is everyone ignoring that this game is locked at 30fps?
Even the fucking menus are 30fps
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>>383323079
>anyone who calls you a faggot is mad
wew, alright tumblreddit, you can go.
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>>383323216
>game also has a 6 gb ram min. requirement

this game is optimized like shit i'm not surprised
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>>383323273
(you)
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@383323379
If youre playing like a shitter, ill call you a shitter, if you then get mad and act like a faggot instead of gitting gud, ill call you a faggot.
I stopped getting mad at randoms ages ago.
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>>383322404
>recently say "whats up" in VC
>black guy responds
>he's playing Griselma
>"what can this old lady even do lmao"
>give him a quick rundown on how to play her
>he starts dominating
>we have amazing bants together
>steamroll the entire game

sometimes VC is alright
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>>383323061
Hurrr you're just a Motiga drone. LMao rly got u gud lmao.

Xeno looks completely retarded, spindly arms, huge hands, ugly face face. Vadasi looks stupid too, spindly limbs, excessively thin waist and neck, ugly face.


>>383323078
Broken clock is right twice a day.

>>383323180
Whatever, anon. You can enjoy your shit taste and dead game while wailing about "eye of the beholder".
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No chat is fucking stupid. When you have only 4 abilities the only time youre getting variety in play style is when you coordinate with other classes. there is absolutely no teamplay in gigantic other than pinging a point a bunch to say go here
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>>383315339
I enjoyed playing it, but my main issue is it seemingly takes forever to get heroes.
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>>383323843
>Enter thread for a game I don't like
>Get mad at everyone there

for what purpose
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>>383323216

Because who gives a flying fuck? I'd love 60fps but it affects nothing. You nitpicking fuck.
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>>383324043
Never heard of this game before this thread.
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>Play Aisling
>Murdering people left and right
>Some poor sap thinks he can get away
>Summon ghost dad to help me
>Teleports behind them
>Chases them and kills them
Just imagining their thoughts as they see their bloomer in sight makes me hard. Even harder when I jump in anyway and slaughter them in front of their baby creatures.
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>>383321109
>>383322023
>>383322239
>>383322846

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFcp89iaLWs
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>>383323852
>tfw id love a conquest/ "classic" moba mode but it completely clashes with Gigantic

I love laning and hate team-fights. But thats all Gigantic is, and yet i still enjoy it.
Conflicted, desu.
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>>383323803
And sometimes VC isnt
>play margrave
>almost dead
>sven heals me
>say "thanks man" in VC
>meanwhile team mate dies
>guy says "wtf is our shitty healer doing?"
>starts flaming the healer
>healer gets pissed and they start flaming each other
>one of them leaves
>we lose the game

Its a double edge sword really
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>>383324160

Don't do this to me.

Don't you fucking do this to me.
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>>383324236
Ive had people rage-quit from some soft VGS bants. It doesnt matter the platform really.
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>>383322897

Please stop being wrong thanks.
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>>383324160
>Will never get more art of Dawngate waifus unless I commission it myself
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>>383323216
Isnt it 60?
Could have sworn the beta I played was 60fps, but that was a long time ago
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Any Gigantic regulars here? Used to constantly run into the same people.
BluDragun, if you're here, I hate you and you're bad at the game. Fight me.
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>>383324471
My opinions are objectively patrician. Enjoy your dead game though.
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>>383324667
Mozu & Sven reporting.
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>>383324705

The delusion is real.
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>>383324152
>Play sven
>take AOE burn auto attack
>full burn build
>burn damage is small but it ads up and can be deadly
>fuckin light up the enemy team with fire flask, acid pool burn ground etc.
>laugh as they struggle to kill you as you heal and super jump around
Sven is king
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Looks cool will try it out
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>>383324174
I'm the complete inverse. Guess I gotta check this shit out, now. I play HotS just because I despise Laning.
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>>383324760
Yeah, okay retard. I'm sure you'll find some excuse when the game servers shut down, surely it wasn't the ugly characters, it was "m-muh overwatch ;_;"
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I tried to play it but the extremely limited character selection and all of the microtransactions really turned me off, I hope they tone it down after the stream release.
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>>383325132
yeah its a small amount of heroes but I didn't really feel the micro trans was that heavy. It was just skins and the creature variations are just skins as well. Grinding for heroes is tough though almost like League but at least they have a weekly free hero roster
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I want to fuck Leiran
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>>383325401
that's a big bird
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>>383325401
We must protec big burb lady
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>>383324558
>>383324160
>>383321109
Shrine of Imanna is the official unofficial remake of Dawngate that will be utilizing all the original assets. There were a few groups attempting remakes, but they've all come together for this one.

I'm too wary to get my hopes up, but they'll be doing alpha testing soon.
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>>383324765
I love the silly motherfucker. He's the only really fun healer. I need to git gud so I can make more Webms. Creating these things are a bitch.
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>>383325132
They're upping the amount of gold you get per-game afaik. They're aware of the grind at least.
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>>383324735
Sven is my nigga, but I usually have to run HK because I'm really fucking good with him. Boring, but that damage is insane.
Shame about all the walls now though.
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>>383325562
I'd heard of a few fan attempts at bringing it back. Good to hear they've joined up for a focused effort.
Still going to approach it with cautious optimism.
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>>383324765
Spam his taunt. It's golden. Old dude running around calling people stupid like a child is a lot more amusing than I thought it'd be.
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>>383324160
Man, is there anywhere to download the soundtrack? It sounds pretty cool
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>>383323216

>obviously have more than powerful enough hardware to run this game

>59 fps regardless of settings
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The only characters I played in the old beta were lord knossus and the frog monk
My aim is just too shit to play anyone else
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>>383317874
holy fuck i was in one of the earlier betas and ive had a blast thank fucking GOD its coming out on steam.
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More like Gigantic Failure
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Love, LOOOOOOVE these toony characters, love them.

>moba
Fuck you, fyck you all.
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>>383326447
google gigantic 30fps, anon
Pretty big issue considering I also also far above spec with a 1080ti
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>>383326476
Knossos is a fucking beast and Wu is best Kung Fu Frog. Knossos shits out damage like no other, its not even fair for me to play him sometimes. I'm not as good with Wu, but he's fun too.
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The only song you should be listening to when playing Sven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rhcli0I8MA mega jumping and shoot flasks into hoops (players)
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>>383326817
its literally battleborn
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>>383326817
Knossos' bleed talents turns him into a DOT monster
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>>383327014
its faster pace, got no minions and map control isn't always a good thing to have
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>>383326145
https://soundcloud.com/waystone-games

I don't know if songs are downloadable from soundcloud, but I googled and saw that there's websites that turns soundcloud links into mp3s.
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>any time someone comes into a Gigantic thread to complain about the character design it boils down to "it's stupid and ugly"
>literally can never articulate why it's objectively bad

motiga always wins baby

>>383326476
>playing Wu

You definitely have to aim with him because half of his specials never fucking land, his focus is a 50/50 coin flip for hitting. His moves are fun but I don't wanna risk playing someone who isn't even remotely reliable.
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If you think about it- they would make a lot of money if ported to the Switch. Only online games are MK8, ARMS, and Splatoon 2. Kids would eat the shit up from a MOBA-lite. Awesomenauts would be a better pick, but I already emailed Ronimo, but they said they didn't want to.
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>>383321030
What about husbandos?
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>>383327014
>>383327125
I think he's referring to the pastel, cartoony, childish, bizarrely shaped humanoids, aesthetic that battleborn also shares.
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>>383327284
>needs 6gs of ram
>run on switch
Kekkkek.

Although Ninty could do it, it does looks like celshaded crap from gamecube.
I doubt the devs could.
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I dropped this game hard after one match where the enemy team had every healer and there was no way to actually kill anyone so it was a slow grind to a loss. It was so powerfully unfun that it convinced me that this game was made by retards even though up to that point I had been having an absolute blast and was seriously considering buying their stupid founder pack.

>>383327247
I could bust your head open with design theory if you want but I'd need you to pay me for the work because honestly you're not worth it otherwise. Motiga's art fidelity is high and pleasant to look at in motion but the designs themselves are very weak and generic.
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>>383327616
6 gigs means shit since that's for the PC. BOTW is huge as shit with a good amount of stuff going on, so with tweaking this game could easily be on the Switch.
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>>383327247
>motiga always wins baby

I don't think their game being dead is winning, anon.

https://www.destructoid.com/-update-gigantic-developer-motiga-suffers-another-round-of-layoffs-422879.phtml
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>>383327982
Anon... I'm sorry to tell you... but Tyto's gender is unknown. Motiga purposely did not give him a gender or even let him have a voice in game to reveal their gender.
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>>383327947
>>383327284
Agree with this 100%.
It could move a million units if done right, but most likely it would have to be rebuilt from scratch not just a port, very unlikely.
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>>383327372
Tyto if you want THINN
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>>383327793
>I could bust your head open with design theory if you want but I'd need you to pay me for the work because honestly you're not worth it otherwise

This sounds like a shitty excuse to not divulge in a subject you clearly don't know shit about, because what Motiga's doing right now is more creative and stylish than its direct competitors. There are designs in this game that are more coherent and clear than most designs in Overwatch, and every single design in Paladins/Battleborn. From a character design standpoint, they're making every other developer on these shits look like fucking retards.
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>>383327372
knosos if you want THICC
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>>383328269
Need r34 of r63 of this hottie.
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Is there anyway to become so tanky I can run into teams 5v1 and just waste they're time. That's my favorite part of mobas tbqh.
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>>383328269
>>383328427
What about the deer/wolf guy in the OP?
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>>383328529
Anon... I-I'm sorry but there is none
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I'm loving the artstyle.

>moba
Welp.
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>>383328774
you mean this handsome fellow?
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>>383328652
the only character I can imagine feasibly doing this is Pakko. He has an upgrade on his left click that builds his defense up as he hits, he's got an upgrade to his ult that heals him while he uses it, he has an upgrade to his frost path move that heals him and team mates when they're just standing on it and his escape slide is good for just fucking getting out of shit.

I'll try building a tanky Pakko next time I play as him.
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>>383328271
It's just 2d toony shit, it's pretty much dead as a style in vidya these days in favor of stilted photrealism.
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>>383328774
That's Voden. He's an odd mix between dps and support kinda like Anna from overwatch, not ability wise but roll wise
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>>383320957
rip
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>>383329091
Well I have the game downloading so some time tomorrow I'll try it out myself. Looks kinda like the yeti from Darkstalkers.
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>>383329008
ikr, what a fucking waste

and it seems to be a dead one soon to boot, oh well
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>>383328774
Voden is poopy. My nigga HK is where it's at.
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>>383315339
Wish it were the end of the month already so I could get it without Arc, think it'll get a nice boost in population too
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>>383328652
>>383329091
Margrave is the BEST hero to do what you want to do. Not only can he be tank AF gaining frontal armor, additional health and deflecting ranged shots but he also has mad CC
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>>383329353
The steam version isn't going to bypass Arc. You still need to have the ARC client for Steam.
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>>383328652
Well, you won't be as effective as a tank in LoL, or something, but the Margrave has a shield that deflects bullets, a leaping slam that stuns, a charge that knocks people out of the way, and his primary attacks which can be upgraded to give him a counter that interrupts the enemy and let's you fuck them up. He's better at just being a dick that constantly slaps you when you try to do something about him, and just when you think you got him, he charges off. Oh, and >>383329091 this little guy.
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>>383329401
He said waste their time not rape them all in seconds.
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>>383329019
Yes, him.

>>383329334
And who is that? Is he hot?
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>>383329492
Oh, well shit. Guess I'll update my Arc crap from the beta forever ago and just get back into it now
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>>383328427
Excuse me, you forgot best husbando.
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>>383329652
Hello fellow pyromancer of exquisite taste.
They gave him a fine voice too. Between him and Grenn there's some nice sounding reptiles in this game.
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>>383329916
Looks like he was made to be mounted.
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So this game is for children and /co/ furries, is that right?
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>>383328269
>Tyto
>Husbando
Lmao
But seriously, I haven't played since they added the voice lines. Tytos skin descriptions describe him/her as him or her, so I don't know if Tyto is a dude or a lady.
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>>383330065
he is
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>>383330082
>you don't know if it's a he or a she until you take of the clothes
we shall name this Schrodinger's trap
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>>383329569
He's a big ugly ass robot with big sexy guns.
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>>383330065
He gets some hot cosmetics too.
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>>383322897
Why are people so quick to cite this game as an example of good character design every single time it's brought up? TF2 is in another genre and is heavily stylized, the designs in Gigantic are good for the genre it's in. You can easily tell by a look at any of the characters in Gigantic what class of character they are, assassin, fighter, mage, etc through design and silhouette. This is literally the exact reason TF2's designs are good, they're simple and they get the point across quickly to the player when they see them. They aren't cluttered like characters in other mobas are, pic related.

People who blindly praise TF2's design without realizing why they're doing it hurts to watch
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>>383330428
I approve. Might even be better than Drogoz.
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>no waifu
>shitty granny loli and an octobitch
>buch of shit for gayfurfags
DEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAADD
ON
ARRRRIVAAAAAAAAAAAL
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Can anyone tell me if discount Bastion is good? I really like the artstyle of this game and im willing to try it due to cute robots.
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>>383330749
What if its, you know, fun?
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>>383330891
>games being fun
get the fuck of my board
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>>383330749
Theres like 4 male furs out of 16 characters max
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>>383328271
Less is not actually more, they made the designs simple and easy to read as a pure aesthetic choice, not to strengthen them. That rat-goblin-whatever, for instance, doesn't really look like anything, especially in-game. It's just a blobby robe-thing with a dumb hat. Its clothes completely dominate its design and so when they use its face for anything, there is a massive disconnect. The colors also clash terribly and would draw attention to the face if you could ever fucking see it in-game. Harmonious colors would have gone a long way in helping this little shit be attractive or memorable.

>>383328427
This guy I can also use as an example. His design fails at multiple points to be unified or pleasing in any meaningful way. Why is he blue? Why are his horns asymmetrical? Why does he wear pants but not a shirt, yet has sleeves? Why does he have a mane of brown hair even though it's already been established that he is blue? Why does his face look like it's been shoved in a very tiny hole? What the fuck is that belt supposed to be? I could go on but you see where I'm going with this. Few of his design choices leave us with answers, only questions. He looks less like something that has been produced by inspiration or iteration and more like something that got shat out in an hour to fill a spot. Most of the game's designs fall along those lines.
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>>383331018
Hes cute.
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>>383330890
I thought he'd do bastion levels of damage but hes pretty balanced actually. He's more of a... bruiser sort of, locking down areas and discouraging players from pushing up
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>>383330891
>moba
>fun
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>>383330890
HK is fucking toxic to play as/against
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>>383330890
He was probably the strongest character in the game before they added more walls. He's my favorite character because of how much damage he puts out but he has a surprising amount of utility as well.
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>>383330891
Uh... is it?
Some of you seem to have played the beta... so is it fun??
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is the tentacle lady good? she's the only reason I'm thinking of installing it.
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>>383331415
I personally don't like her. Feel like she's only good for the occasional slow but Pakko is better for CC.
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>>383331415
She's a CC/Debuff machine that gives sucks people dry for HP with her default attack. She has some lackluster talent options available to her but she's by no means a bad character.
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>>383331415
Never played her but playing agaisnt her is aids. Her poison Aoe slows can really fuck you up in a team fight
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>>383330890
Alright, so he has a stationary form just like bastion, and turns into a gatling gun like Bastion, but he has a mortar that can knock up and burn targets, and a laser canon thingy that can either be upgraded to be a charge laser canon or a mid range canon that stuns enemies. His basic attacks in his mobile form operate on a cooldown system, so when it reaches its peak, it heats up and has to cool off. You can upgrade his gatling form so he can be a real cunt and slow people or weaken them (lowers their attack damage). His ult is a barrage of missles. You can upgrade build him in a small variety of ways, my favorite being a sturdy asshole who slows people from far off while the team finishes them off. He's great at holding points and providing some pressure while your team moves in on their creature. (basically a turret of sorts)
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>>383330543
Lol, you call that cluttered? Compare it to this shit: >>383328269

They're ugly, cluttered designs with bad proportions. You can like it if you want, but you're just enjoying shit.
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>>383331415
Played her almost the entirety of the closed beta before they fucked off to windows 10 for ages.

Can't say if they did anything to her since, but she was a debuff god, and could get incredibly tanky as well with certain upgrades. Big dick aoe debuffs is the most popular way to play her, but I personally used her as an invincible single target life ruiner to amazing success. Big carry potential because you could just pick out the top player on the enemy team and ruin their life forever.
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Snake is best guardian with best voice.

Flying rat a shit.
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>>383332528
This^ I played the shit out of full tank Magrave would jump into the enemy team, hard cc them, wreck their assassins etc. But the moment tentacle lady starts using her abilities I leap and GTFO. Her poison chews up my health and cracks my armor and the slow can really fuck me over if other people start hitting me
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>>383332029
Lol, stupid nigger, the owl dude is the best fucking design, you blind af dumbshit.
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>>383317345
Its not on Arc
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>>383333248
Lol, that's supposed to be a fucking owl?? What a joke. Kill yourself, anon.
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>>383331018
That rat-goblin-whatever is comprised of triangle shapes, and the element is present throughout her entire design. They push it as far as they can without literally making her a walking talking triangle. Anything that isn't a straight up triangle is either an ornate element that's in 3's, or something sharp to compliment her chaotic off-the-handle personality. Every aspect of her base design works harmoniously with the character's personality and is done deliberately.

Voden (the deer man) is made up of shapes that taper off. His bows taper, his fur tapers off and his ears taper off. He's a forest sage of sorts, and his design is supposed to evoke feelings of growth and life: his colors are earthy and seasonal.

Uncle Sven's jolly personality is presented in the form of CIRCLES. He's circle upon circle upon circle: a soft and safe shape. His animation is very bouncy and perfectly convey's his jovial nature.

Aisling and Sir Cador are opposites: a top-heavy and upright father figure with his daughter, who's form is bottom-heavy and posture is pulled down thanks to the weight of the sword she wields. His proud aura contrasts her sulky, downtrodden shapes very well.

Characters like Knossos are definitely a bit more subtle with what they wanted to do design-wise in terms of shape language. What I get from him immediately is that he's large and in charge, the bulk of him contrasts everything else to show you his strength. The darker colors of the arms and legs make his center mass very prominent: when you see that mass running towards you like a fucking relentless freight train you'll be shakin' in your boots.

This shit is stuff Blizzard can't pull because they don't stylize the characters anatomy enough. All of OW's silhouettes come from costuming rather than anatomy and as a result silhouettes get ALL fucked up from shitty cosmetics. Motiga's on some next-level shit, they've kept their cosmetics mostly inline with the character's normal looks.
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>>383315339
aaaaa
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>>383333181
Xenobia shits on Margrave, Knossos, and Tripp to a ridiculous degree. Anybody will get fucked up when she pours her cancer bucket of a million debuffs over your head, but those three cannot do anything if she's around, or even to her depending on how she builds.
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hah
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>>383331415
She's really fucking good once you get the hang of her. She has an aoe that does dot and cuts healing speed in half, a ranged orb that can apply debuffs, and a...thing that can knock people up (sorry, forgot what it does exactly). You can even make it so if they are debuffed and hit with the aoe, they are crippled, meaning they are slowed by more than half of their regular movement speed. She can be an extremely useful asset in the right hands.
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>>383315339
You stupid fuckers and your stupid retarded bitch moba shooters need to go fucking die.
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>>383329540
>Tanks inn Lol
>good
not since 2009
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>>383334081
Anon, that is a terrible character design. Tail looks stupid, hat looks stupid, face is just a generic furry face, robe is shapeless. Honestly looks like some nintendo "for kids" game.
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>>383334426
She also gets lifesteal out the ass.
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*kills WoW*
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>>383334831
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
How is the robe "shapeless"
Why does the tail look stupid, or why does the hat look stupid?
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>>383334831
>Three paragraphs of indepth design commits
>Lol looks stupid and generic
I fucking hate /v/
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Call me when it supports 21:9.
Shit game until then.
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>>383335001
Do you really expect people to know anything in here? You give them too much credit.
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*kills LoL, DoTA and HotS*
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>>383335171
honestly it would if the progression wasn't so retarded
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>>383335131
I've spent too much time talking to people in the real world it seems.
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>>383334887
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>>383334887
Best single player game to date
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>>383334835
I prefer her weakness on her basic just because of how well it works with her aoe. I can just tap them real quick for the debuff, and then when the aoe hits them, they're crippled. Either that or just shoot the ball at them and get the debuff in from that and cripple. Man, I've never played a character who made being a support so fun.
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>>383334887
Such wasted potential.
It hurts.
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>>383335082
>Blizzard says it gives players a "competitive edge"
I hope these devs are just honest and say "we don't want to put in the work" instead of lying.
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>>383334990
The tail looks stupid because it doesn't look based in reality. One part is super angular for no reason then becomes a usable flexible corkscrew at the end?

Hat looks dumb because it's too big for no reason, doesn't look like it has any purpose. The way it sweeps back just doesn't look good either. Flaps on the sides also look stupid.

I know exactly what I'm talking about.
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>>383335591
You should try taking the lifesteal upgrades for her m1, plus the upgrade for her aoe that also boost lifesteal, then invest the rest of your upgrades into debuff hell and take the talent/skill/whatever that double the debuff time on your m2. When the aoe hits something, it still applies nasty debuffs, but now you literally cannot die while they're active. It's more about suffocating one person with your debuffs than lathering them on the enemy team since your aoe is weaker, but man does it work at shutting somebody down, especially since you're so completely unkillable that I've had plenty of times where the enemy team will just completely stop attacking me if I'm not the last one alive.
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>>383335001
Fuck off retard. "LOLTRIANGLES" isn't a good character design.
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>>383334887
>that ugly, terribly designed rat abomination was on the cover

Wow I'm really shocked it flopped so hard with awful art like that..
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>>383336717
I'll get right on it when they make her free again
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>>383336594
You know she's a wannabe wizard, right? Her clothes make her look like a child wearing their parents clothing. In this case, a tiny goblin wearing a wizards clothing.
Also you look dumb. Lol.
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>>383335001
You're not gonna get genuine discussion about character design on /v/, nobody ever really knows what they're talking about and on top of that the thread's got a few funny memeboys posting nonsense. I think there are legitimate criticisms to be made against the game (lack of text chat, voice chat is only open mic) but once those run their course it goes back to the usual "lol OW is better"/"lol W10 only"/"literally battleborn" kinda stuff which is just typical /v/ fare.

A lot of the visual criticism I see on /v/ when it comes to this game is "I don't like it looks it like a big stinky hehe" and that's alright, everyone's got their preferences. If they don't wanna fuck any of the cast they've got shit taste and are a bunch of lowest-common-denominator vanilla faggots anyways.
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>>383338487
Oh so the design is only pretending to be retarded? That really makes everything better, I'm sure people will start flooding the game now.
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>>383336594
>The tail looks stupid because it doesn't look based in reality.
Stopped reading there, I'm gonna assume you're baiting for my own sanity
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>>383338940
Humans prefer things that are based in reality, even if they aren't wholly realistic. Stop being a stupid faggot with trash opinions, it's pathetic.
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>>383315339
Somehow those skills / icons remind me of Guild Wars.
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>>383336594
>I know exactly what I'm talking about.
>After showing he doesn't have clue what hes doing
lol
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>>383339770
Wrong. Not my fault you've got shit taste.
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>>383338581
This looks much better than her default appearance. I don't dislike how Vadasi normally looks but this is more pleasing to me in a number of ways.
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>>383315339
I don't think I've ever seen a game look so bad in screenshots but look so good in motion before.
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Just spent the last couple of hours playing it, here's my impression:

Interesting enough to keep my attention for more than a couple games.
The robot is overpowered.
It's takes too long to unlock new champions without paying jewgold.
I like the minimalist style, but the game could do with higher quality textures and a higher framerate.
Melee champions feel like they're at a major disadvantage to ranged champions on certain maps.
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>>383315339
You forgot about Battleborn
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>>383330543
Anon, the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He even said his taste was patrician. Who does that? Retards who don't know what they're talking about.
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>>383333626
now you're bait's too obvious anon. Shame.
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>>383339224
>Humans prefer things that are based in reality
Yeah that's why everybody loves Mario.

You stupid fucking retard
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>>383341793
Not bait. Not my fault the character designers are shit at their job. As an unbiased, person without any prompting, I had no idea it was a "owl" guy.
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>>383339224
>People like realistic stuff except when not.
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>>383341292
Everyone did
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>>383339602
Motiga has ex GW1 staff that left while GW2 was happening
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>>383338842
Her design has a reason to be, and it works, not other people's fault you're too dense to get it.
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>>383342176
Mario is a human in overalls. That's about as based in reality as you can get, are you brain damaged?

>>383342289
Google the word "nuance". You seem to have difficulty with comprehension.
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>>383342420
>and it works

No it doesn't. The game is dead in the water, for a variety of reasons including ugly characters. People get massively turned off by bad character design. Think about your favorite game, then replace it's design and visuals with your personal most hated art style, it would likely kill the game for you.
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>>383341007
Knossos, Tripp, Tyto, and Wu should be able to overwhelm ranged characters. Knossos with his crazy damage, slow spear, and knock up, Tripp with her knock up, damage, speed, and invisibility, Tyto with his never ending bleed damage and speed, and Wu with his Crashing Waves and his in your face style. I can see Imani, and Hk and Beckett being a problem on the Ice map and the ruins though. Most of the have good escape options, but once those are on cd, then you have an opening. Same for Mozu, forgot her. Oh, and if they're running from you after you hit them, they're wasting stamina, so they'll slow down and start hopping in a futile attempt to get away, so abuse that pressure man.
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>>383334887
i member
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>>383319424
IS THAT
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>>383315339
I would like to try it, but... 6GB ram to run? Wtf? Paladins and Overwatch have better graphics and both run decently in my notebook.

Looks like i will stick with Paladins.
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>>383342256
Everybody here gets he's an owl. His fucking mask is an owl's face. I haven't played the game and the first time I saw him in the trailer I knew exactly his design was owl themed. Not my fault you have bad eyesight. Unless you prove your credibility in matters of visual design, nobody here is going to take you seriously.
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>>383343543
>Everybody here gets he's an owl

Do they?

>His fucking mask is an owl's face.

Looked like a generic bird.
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>>383343542
6 gigs is alot? since when? Last I checked 8 to 16 was the norm on /v/
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>>383343883
not anon, but I have to agree with him, it looks like an owl and you may be half blind
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>>383343976
Did you think it was an owl before reading or hearing that it was an owl?
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>>383343883
>wide and flat face
>small beak
>large frontal eyes
>generic bird

Yep, not credible. No more (you)'s for you.
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>>383342681
The game is doing bad financially because Microsoft forced them to make the game W10 only and only for Micro to drop them anyway, leaving them with no money and an W10 version of the game not many people could play, since Perfect World picked them they could rehire a lot of the staff they lost and worked with them for the W7 version, so more people can try it.

I know asking for you to research before shitposting but, again, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>383334081
Don't waste your time anon. Those were beautiful explanations.
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>>383344701
Oh yes, surely it'd be doing so well if it wasn't for microsoft. Come on, anon.

>>383344891
>Those were beautiful explanations.
>beautiful
>this is the kind of pussified pleb who likes these awful designs

By the way, the explanations were garbage. Muh circles, muh triangles, muh "aura".
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>>383317345
you can play using Arc nigga
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>>383345285
They're beautiful because they made sense. Yours didn't. Shapes are fundamental in creating design, along with color and tone. You'd know that if you bothered to study it instead of adding "muh" to an argument you can't defend. Anyways, this thread wouldn't be as interesting without your retardedness. Thanks. Had a lot of laughs.
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>>383318492
Arc and steam are pretty much the same user base, you can keep using Arc even when the steam version is released
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>>383336391
It's funny how games from 20 years ago support it because they were smart enough to implement arbitrary resolutions.
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>Gigantic thread on /v/

YAAAAS QUEEN
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>>383345285
It's character design 101, the use of shapes to convey a characters personality and their role they are supposed to play are essential when it comes to making characters, sorry you're stupid anon, can't help that.
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>>383345962
They were generic meaningless descriptions. Give me a picture of any awful design you want, I'll describe it "beautifully" too, doesn't make the design not garbage.

>>383346861
Oh fuck off. Basing something off shapes means nothing, does not make a design good.
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*Kills Paladins*
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>>383348692
>basing something off shapes means nothing
holy shit, thank you for showing everyone how uneducated you are on character design, fucking retard
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>>383348854
>Hold on, let me draw 15 triangles. Best character design ever. Don't criticize it! ;_;
>proportions, texturing and modeling don't matter ;_;
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Fuck this gay earth where Dawngate doesn't exist anymore
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>>383348998
>thinking this way
if you actually think this is how it work, you are beyond saving, you autistic NPC-tier waste of space
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>>383317345

What? Quite WHAT? SPIT IT OUT FAGGOT!
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>90% of the porn is of a rat
>1 picture of tentacle girl
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>>383324160
FUCK
YOU
AND
FUCK
EA
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>>383349164
Anon, the fact is the game is dead, partly because of the bad character designs. Wiggle, squirm and cry all you like, it won't make the game not dead.
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>>383348692
nah I'm good. I don't care about your opinion anymore.
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>>383349474
You not caring about my opinion won't make the game not dead.
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>>383349674
fucking idiot, the point isn't whether or not the game is dead, the point is that you have absolutely 0 knowledge in character design.
you make a fucking character, do it, you wont faggot.
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This game looks like shit
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>>383349880
You miss my point, that the game is dead partly because of it's awful character design. And you're right I should stop being such a nodev and continue working on my game, the video gaming world really needs it, considering all the trash that comes out.
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>>383349674
I don't care if the game's dead. I won't even be able to play it even if it was alive given my circumstances in life. What I do care about is good character design taking flak from retards like you. Or should I say "did care about" since all you've proven was you have little knowledge in the subject of visual design from your weak arguments.
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>>383317860
No chat in a ream based multiplayer is objectively bad, it only gives autistic tryhards who use voip a huge advantage.
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>>383315339
This game runs like shit on my GTX 1070 even with lower settings.
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>>383317874
>in-app purchases
Better be free or it's DOA
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>>383350169
Post your game. I'll critique your designs. Just so we could see how credible you are.
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>>383345285
>Oh yes, surely it'd be doing so well if it wasn't for microsoft.
>literally every friend I've asked to play the game with me (10+) has expressed a wide variety in levels of interest before always saying nevermind because they don't have Win10 and don't want to upgrade just to play one game with me
>the only reason I even got to play it before was because I was lazy and switched to 10 instead of "fixing" my copy of Win7 after I upgraded my computer

>>383349287
>furries are better at fucked up porn than Japan
Honestly, I'm impressed.
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>>383350414
im so fucking down for this holy shit
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>>383350169
>the game is dead partly because of it's awful character design
Are you arguing that you're right about the character designs being bad since the game is dead because you can't argue that you're right about the designs being bad by proving they're objectively bad?
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>>383350284
But nobody does that unless they're memestacking anyways
I wish people could stay positive but I let chat tilt me way too much
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>>383317345
Good fucking thing it's getting onto steam, I was going to play it but fuck windows store I can wait a week
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>>383350219
You're still missing the point, the fact that it's dead is evidence of awful character design. You can hurrdurr all you want, but it is what it is.

>>383350468
It would do better than it is now, likely anyway, but it would not do well. Combination of derivative gameplay, ugly characters and incoherent setting.

>>383350726
Come on retard, how are you going to "prove" a design is bad, especially amongst a bunch of beauty in the eye of the beholder mouthbreathers?
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>>383350169
>the video gaming world needs it
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>>383335171
More like kills itself, servers always fucking up and charging 20 burger bucks for a single character and let's not begin on the bland game play
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>>383350169
Game being dead is irrelevant and could be many factors.
Unless you can provide an argument for why the designs are bad, you're just spouting shit.
The discussion is about why the designs are bad and that alone, you are describing a supposed effect of the designs being bad without explaining why they are in fact bad in the first place
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>>383315339
yeah, no

blizzdrones are literally brainwashed to play blizzard crap.
only nuclear fire can cleanse them now...
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>>383350169
>can't explain in detail why a character design is bad
>"the gaming world needs me!"
>MFW
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>>383350810
How do you people function in daily life if simple text from some person you will never meet causes you to perform badly
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>>383350961
It really does. That's a cute grill by the way.

>>383351378
I did explain. Try reading the thread.
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>>383351009
>Game being dead is irrelevant and could be many factors.

Sure, but the main reasons are "derivative gameplay, ugly characters and incoherent setting".

>Unless you can provide an argument for why the designs are bad

I did previously.
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>>383351815
>I did explain
your "explanation" was literally that it "looked stupid"
see >>383334831
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>>383343542
Look at this character, nice tits, attractive face, relatively normal body proportions. Now look at: >>383319252. Small, unexposed, unaesthetic chest. Ugly face. Bizarre proportions, arms spindly, waist too thin.

The vast majority of people would much rather play the former character because it's a much nicer, more aesthetically pleasing design.
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>>383352462
See: >>383336594
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>>383352756
>the way it sweeps back just doesnt look good
>flaps on the side look stupid
>tail looks stupid because it doesnt look based in reality
and he fucking ends it with "i know exactly what im talking about"
fucking really? are you that much of a pretentious prick to think that? if you are making a game and think this is a detailed explanation, fucking quit while you're ahead, save yourself the embarrassment
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>>383321109
goddmaed anon i was having a good night, why you make me remeber that dawngate is kill.

ill never again gonna play king of masks or hear his wonderfull voice

godfuckindamed
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>>383350884

Not the same people replying to you but...

>how are you going to "prove" a design is bad

Point out inconsistencies in design choices of the character/its fit to personality, or movements (does the design actually breathe life into them as a character?). Point out bad color choices/contrast of design elements and values or colors. Point out excess details that take away from the overall design, or lack of details which don't present the viewer with enough information. Point out design genericism, or cliched design elements. Point out if the design is too alien and irrelevant from relateable media.

There's a lot of ways to tear apart a design "objectively", and it's not like your initial point of "this design seems alien to me" is absolutely wrong, but dismissing the effectiveness of a shape and silhouette is pretty dumb. My main complaint with gigantic is while the non humanoid designs are alright the humanoid characters are given the most ugly caricatured faces/proportions. When I play a human character in a game I generally want to relate with them visibly, not look away in horror.
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>>383350884
>how are you going to "prove" a design is bad

Here's an example. Let's use Vi's design.

First off let's start at the sillhouette. With just the silhouette it's alright, I mean it's a tall girl with large mechanical hands, nobody could miss that. But then light it up and suddenly our eyes get blasted with small redundant details. There's nothing inherently wrong with details per se. But each detail is a decision, and more decisions mean more chances to make mistakes, more elements to contribute to the whole. The details in Vi's design are all over the place. The viewer's eye won't know where to go, nothing in the details help. No lines that lead to the focal point, no space for the eye to rest. Just a bunch of clutter mashed together with no definite purpose. The rendering is good but the DESIGN doesn't work as well as you want it to. The artist could have made use of Vi's large mechanical arms concept to make her a bit more top heavy but with a streamline from the torso so the transition won't be as sharp.
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>>383353732
>>383353431
fucking hell I really hope someone screencaps all the shit that went down in this thread and posts it somewhere, it'll be great to read back on this stuff.
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>>383353732
That half-skirt with torn leggings looks retarded as shit.
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>>383349287
>>90% of the porn is of a rat
Where can I find these pictures?
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>>383350884
>"prove" a design is bad
By "proving" it fails to meet standards and rules of character design set by professionals.
It's still not perfectly objective, but it's a hell of a lot better than "It's bad because I think it's bad."
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>>383353732
>This passes as character design these days
I've heard how League of Legends is bad but holy shit who thought it was okay?
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>>383354161
LoL is nothing but winners, anon
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>>383353732
>eyes drawn to that one bit of pink on her body below her chest
>it's an asymmetrical pink frill
I've hated that thing ever since she released.
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>>383353120
It'd be too heavy and would probably fall off, the hat doesn't look practical. The artist went overboard.

The flaps are shaped in a cartoony, unaesthetic way. They don't look cool.

And absolutely, the tail should have purpose. The artist clearly just made it's tail a zigzag just to add more stuff. To make it "zanier". I've noticed a lot of the gigantic designs suffer from that, an attempt to make things zany by slapping on ugly exaggerations.


>>383353732
>>383353431
>>383354139
Yes, but that can always be countered by retards saying "Well I like it so you don't know what you're talking about".

>>383353912
This is boring as hell, your life be pretty empty if this is a 10/10 must screencap moment.
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>>383354541
>this is boring as hell, your life be pretty empty
yet, here you are as well
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This is the work of the ones who consorts with beasts!
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>>383350884
>>383353732

Now let's look at Karma's latest(I think?) design. It's not as bad as Vi's. Obviously the artist toned down the clutter this time. There's some consistency now. Nice curved V patterns down the legs and dress. The lines from the wing things on her back help leading the eyes to her face, the focal point. It's simpler but way better than Vi's.

Anyways, designs can be as simple and as detailed as the artist wants, as realistic or as stylized as he prefers. It's all about the execution. Clearly Gigantic went to the stylized route so proportions are pushed as far as it can to convey character. Simpler but more to the point. I'm not as articulate as the other anon but I think even you can make an analysis if you tried
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>>383354541
>that can always be countered by retards saying "Well I like it so you don't know what you're talking about".
We've been laughing at idiots making arguments like that this entire thread.
In fact, you're one of them.
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>>383354635
Anon, you're the one thinking this is an amazing moment. I'm just casually posting.
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>>383354541
>The artist clearly just made it's tail a zigzag just to add more stuff. To make it "zanier".
The zigzag gives it a good shape for holding her triple wielded wand while sticking to the hard angles prominent in her outfit.
It's fine if you don't like it, but it doesn't make it bad.
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lolwat

Does Paladins need to be killed? That shit has been dead forever.

Overwatch is top meme tier normie trash; that shit lives forever, just look at 9fag.
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>>383355032
>The zigzag gives it a good shape

No it doesn't. What the fuck kind of skeletal structure would a tail like that even have? Look at real animal tails, particularly the animals that use their tail as an arm. If they desperately wanted angles they could have made it a regular straight tail with jagged fur on it. Regardless, the whole character is pretty awful. Just isn't aesthetically pleasing and/or looks cool.
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>>383323216
>30fps And to think that for a moment I was actually interested
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>>383334887
Wildstar could've been so much better with a competent developer.
They got the combat down really well which is a huge part of an MMO, but they just couldn't follow through.
The only real reason to play it anymore is to raid since those are still quality and fun as hell in combination with the combat, but without anything to do between raid nights guild socialization dries up incredibly fast and the game's suffering a pathetic population already.

I'd come back in a heartbeat if the game got a "realm reborn" treatment under a different developer.
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>>383317874
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>>383352010
I've looked through your replies and not seen that argument at all.
Care to link it to the ignorant?
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>>383323216
Except its not? At least when I last played it.
>>
is EU alive yet

i stopped playing when the top end was literally just competitive reject stack vs french stack.

the new ui looks awful.
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>>383355597
See: >>383336594, >>383354541, >>383355383
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>>383355597
Also: >>383352648
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>>383355383
>What the fuck kind of skeletal structure would a tail like that even have? Look at real animal tails
>It's not good because it resorted to fantasy for a reasonable purpose

>If they desperately wanted angles they could have made it a regular straight tail with jagged fur on it.
>"desperately" as if the angles shouldn't be there
>jagged fur would clip and/or bend all to hell when the tail is wrapped around the wand ruining the shape and damaging the consistency of her design all for the sake of applying realism to their nonexistent fantasy creature
It's funny how hard you're trying to justify your dislike of this character.
It's fine if the unnatural shape of parts of the body bug you and make it so you can't enjoy her design, but quit trying to make it out as if you're in the "right" for not liking it.
It's okay if a design is good and you don't like it, those two things can and do always happen at the same time for at least somebody.
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>>383324765
>>383325740
>>383326063
Who is that and why does he look so based ?
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>>383323216
I just played the game today and it feels like 60 FPS with drops despite having a monster GPU. Really triggering me when it's happening even though I'm lowering settings.

Probably won't get into this game when it's so basic yet runs like such shit. It'll probably die because the poor optimization will turn people off.
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>>383355331
Yeah, here on 4chan we hate normie stuff!
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>>383356391
>It's not good because it resorted to fantasy for a reasonable purpose

The purpose was not reasonable. It does not make sense nor does it even look good.

>jagged fur would clip and/or bend all to hell when the tail is wrapped around

Not necessarily, depends on how you modeled and animated everything. Also, I'm sure there is plenty of clipping in this game, just like every other game.

>all for the sake of applying realism to their nonexistent fantasy creature

It's more important than you think. A design needs to have some grounding, even if it is fantasy. The rule of cool, meaning you can handwave realism if it's so dang cool is true, yes, but still needs to be sparingly applied.
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>>383348692
You are truly one of the most stupid cunts I have seen posting all year, thanks anon.
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>>383357018
You're welcome, britcuck.
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>>383356932
Man, the normies really did swarm here along with the Trump campaign's paid shill army on /pol/. Biggest normie invasion since 2010.
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>>383357089
>he thinks President Trump's supporters are paid

Wew lad. Still this asshurt about losing the election? It's gonna be a looooooong 8 years for you, anon.
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@383357167
N-nani??
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>>383357175
>think they aren't paid
It was obvious from the start that the campaign was involved in helping force memes and paid shills to brigade online threads.
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>>383357167
>@383357167
Holy shit.
How much of a newfag can you be
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>>383355386
>30fps
Jesus, I thought it would at least be fluid as fuck with these toon aesthetics.
It's unoptimized garbage.

FUCKING DEAD GAME
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>>383357382
No. It's actually the opposite, the democrats first hired "Correct The Record", then when they failed miserably, they hired "Share Blue", which is also failing equally miserably. The problem is that President Trump's positions are objectively correct so the democrats have no ground to stand on, so they rely on lies and spin, see: cnn, john oliver etc.
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>>383357479
>being this retarded
It's to not link to the post and to not give them a (you).
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>>383357670
Both hired shills. Trump just had more.
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>>383357670
As a liberal, even I despise these shills.
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>>383357798
Meme magic can't be bought dumb faggot.
You're supposed to blame it on Putin, stupid cunt, stay on script.
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>>383357798
Wrong. Stop being so delusional. The Donald J. Trump is the President of the United States of America for a reason. The majority of the population of 4chan is white and male, the demographic President Trump won, how are you so shocked that this site would be filled with his supporters?
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>>383357976
>>383358029
If you genuinely believe that both parties don't use the same exact tactics, you're blue pilled. Trump had shills. Hillary had shills. Every political party does it. If you think one party is totally innocent and always right, you're drinking Kool-Aid.
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>>383318887
We are gettin some midriff fanservice soon
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>>383358120
Bullshit. Democrats were spending crazy amounts of money. Wildly more than President Trump.
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>free to play
Lol, underaged furries and thier mommies' cc cards will save this game, mark my words.
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>>383358438
Money raised is not money spent. Trump self financed his own shill army. And if you actually think Trump wasn't using shills too, you are seriously delusional. You have swallowed the biggest blue pill and stopped using your brain to think for yourself. You've become a mindless drone.
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>>383315339
Doubt, but it will be interesting to finally check it out. Kinda nice art style.

>>383356932
>traffic quantity is reversed in the graph
What the fuck?

>>383357670
Trump is basically the worst aspects of Bernie Sanders and Mitt Romney in one body. He's basically a populist leftard on the surface while being a irresponsible rich fuck with limited vision on the inside.
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>>383358536
Relax cucks, it's over.
It was a spectacular upset, but hillary wasn't a saviour and trump isn't a nazi, he's literally just mitt romney with a twitter account.

Fyck off.
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>>383358741
Do you actually believe everyone is pro-Hillary? Most people were just anti-Trump or anti-Hillary. Very few people actually wanted Trump as president. They just didn't want Hillary. They would have voted for Satan if he ran against her.
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*kills Gigantic, Paladins and Overwatch*
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>>383350397
it is free
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>>383358854
Don't care, fuck off, fuck off to youtube or whatever twitter thread you pozz faggots waste your time with this shit.
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>>383358876
Now this looks like the chinese OW ripoff I was waiting for.
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>>383359067
>laugh at it
>remember that Unreal is partly owned by the chinese
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>>383357382
>It was obvious from the start that the campaign was involved in helping force memes and paid shills to brigade online threads.
Nah, someone on /pol/ tweeted Trump a meme, which he retweeted, so then Trump became /pol/'s "guy" and they made a Trump general and basically became his free shills who made memes for/of him and would swarm any polls about him. I'd literally see /pol/ threads after debates during the election with them posting polls and saying to raid them.
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>>383315339
Paladins is shit, don't even bother.
OW can't be killed, it's got blizzard power, and more importantly, waifu and husbando for non furshits.
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>>383315339

It seems like another Smite. It might do well since there's apparently a market there.
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>>383359323
It's free, it has as much market as teens and neets have free time.
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>>383315339

>so few people they don't even display the number in game
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The big serpent, I like it.

>>383359262
Paladins is better than OW, tho. But yeah, can't beat the blizzdrone devotion. I still don't understand it. Blizzard hasn't made an exceptionally good game since Warcraft 3 and people still worship them. They even take the fucking lore of Overwatch seriously. I don't get it and I don't like it.
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>>383359000
Shut up nerd
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>>383315339
I'm pretty sad that Vainglory isn't here. Why couldn't they fix thelag?
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>>383359648
Paladins will never ever not be seen as ow ripoff for poorfags and Huehues, no matter how good the actual game is, I'm sorry.
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>>383359648
It's better than Overwatch (not a difficult feat) but Hi-Rez needs to address the server issues because getting kicked out of match I'm about to win because the servers shat themselves is a real ball buster.
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>>383359000
Checked. Praise Jesus and hail President Trump.
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>>383357017
>The purpose was not reasonable. It does not make sense nor does it even look good.
>Keeping true to her angular design while simultaneously making her tail perfect to stick a wand in isn't a reasonable purpose to fiddle with realism

>A design needs to have some grounding, even if it is fantasy.
Is her zigzag tail not grounded enough in reality by the rest of her anatomy for you?
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>>383358348
>more people playing Tripp
Oh yay, my favorite...
>>
This was a pretty good thread all things considered.
Now remember to start at least 5 a day, at least until release if you don't want a dead game.
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>>383346583
shut up fag
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>>383354407
eugh
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>>383315339

Well, it looks pretty spiffy, I'll give it that. I really like some of the designs and that goblin wizard is cute.
>>
Is the playerbase still splitted between w10 and the others?
>>
Can someone explain to me why this game have o retarded marketing decison like make it windows 10 excluive or realasgin in a literal unknown platform like arc having steam,gog,hell even just direct download like LoL?

That alone is going to kill the game...

pd: reading the comment i notice is going to be on steam alreday but it isnt too late at this point?
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>>383321368
I think she looks cute
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>>383362958

As I understand it, the story goes thus:

>Motiga starts making the game
>Runs into money troubles
>Throws in with Microsoft to pay the bills
>Microsoft insists on Win10/Xbox One exclusive
>Bad idea
>Motiga has to start firing people
>Microsoft says "screw it" and drops them
>Perfect World picks up the tab
>Pays enough that Motiga hires back all the people they fired
>No more exclusivity
>Slated for Steam release, but ARC gets it first because Perfect World's paying
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>>383362718
I believe the version from the Win10 shop can play with people on Xbox, but the Arc/Steam version is separate.
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>>383363258
What the hell even is Arc?
>>
Any reason to play this if you already have OW? Is it pay to win?
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>>383363258
those this game have a chance anymore? i feel is just going to die like battleborn.
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>>383363869
>Any reason to play this if you already have OW?
It plays much differently unless you play first person shooters purely to left click on people.
>Is it pay to win?
No.
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become unstoppable
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>>383365717
This isn't the Dark Souls thread, OnlyAfro
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>>383363869
I'll never get why people think OW is the godsend and end-of-the-line shooter where you can only play that.
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>>383327014
This actually shows that had Battleborn gone 3rd person, it might've actually lived.
Don't get me wrong, it's still a pile of insufferable shit but the nauseating designs and effects wouldn't have been as intense if they were 3rd person.
Still don't like these designs though.
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>>383322102
looks like a fucking popcorn
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>>383322102
That collar is the POOFIEST
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>>383358623
Higher traffic mean a lower ranking. So the goal is to reach 1 since it's the best position.
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>>383322267
but /v/ will defend it because this game is hipster trash
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>>383369336
Meanwhile /v/ had 30 threads a minute about that Overwatch game you're paid to shill. You can leave this thread, Gigantic isn't a threat to your "service".
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>>383322267
I kinda like them. At least some of them. A bit rough on the edges when it comes to rendering, especially the cahracters that have fur, but they look cool, especially in motion.

Can you try to analyse the reasons of your dislike without doing the "it's tumblr trash" argument?
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>watch a bit of gameplay
>those massive fucking health bars
This is a moba.
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>>383315339
>MOBA

DROPPED
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The game looks cool, just wish it wasn't a moba
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>>383370324
>>383370262
>>383369994
Moba?
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>>383358929
Not good enough, it needs to pay me money for playing
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>>383370487
Bane?
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>Console game on PC
>Says it has controller support
>Controller support does not work

How do you even fuck up something so simple? Paragon has issues but the controls work.
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How are people playing it now? Win 10?
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>>383370849
Yes
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>>383315339

>ever falling for "X game will kill established game in its genre" meme

Has this ever actually happened?

>OMG, Rock Band is going to kill Guitar Hero
>Guitar Hero just adds the other instruments, it suddenly depends on which one you have gear for and which songlists you prefer

>Overwatch announced
>OMG TF2 ded gam3!
>Both games doing just fine
>Battleborn announced
>OMG Overwatch gonna be threatened guyz!
>Battleborn tanks

>Heroes of the Storm revealed
>OMG gonna be so big, LoL and Dota better watch out!
>Blizzard has to push so much money into e-sports just to keep the scene from going belly-up
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>>383315339
*kills DotA and LoL*
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>>383323216
It's been a while since I first gave the game a try but I think that's one of the things that bugged me about it. Game is not optimized at all.
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>>383371187
Those are very uninspired designs. Just because it's realistic doesn't mean it looks good.
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>>383371007
>OMG Overwatch gonna be threatened guyz!

Pretty sure Battleborn got announced first and no one said Overwatch was threatened by it
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>>383371539
>spaghetti robot controlled by flying bug
>midget orc riding a fat fire breathing dinosaur
>uninspired and realistic
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>>383370580
It does actually.

You get the currency you use to buy skins and stuff either through buying with real money (obviously) and through just playing the game (Leveling up collecting cards)

What now, faggot?
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>>383319495
BEST girl
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>>383317460
>>no chat
dropped

fuck this carebear shit
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>>383371802
>realistic
I meant the rendering style.

>spaghetti robot controlled by flying bug
>midget orc riding a fat fire breathing dinosaur

Now that you mention it they sound interesting. They looked so bland you had to explain to me what they are. Good design is one that communicates at first glance. Too bad the ideas got wasted because of bad execution.
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>>383317460
Nani~?!
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