>Not having a high cognitive treshold.

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>being proud of being good at any of those baby games
Embarrassing.

>EU
>high strategy

Where is dorf fort?

This looks like something th retards at dinofarm would make

>>383303601
>shitposting on /v/

Oh wait, that's normal. Everything checks out.

>>383302778
how do you quantify strategy and excitement?

>>383302778
>Europa Universalis
>High strategy

Fucking kek.

A lot of these are stupid as hell.

How does one measure either of these things in a way that people will agree with?

Even if you do, why for instance is Total war so high strat when it's actually fairly comparatively simple

>same amount of strategy needed for TTD as for cities skylines

...It's impossible to lose in skylines

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>>383302778
>Europa Universalis
>high strategy

>>383304212
This

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>>383302778
the threshold is just a line whoever made the graph randomly put there to include the games they like and disclude the games they don't like.

>>383302778
More like autism threshold

>>383303974
heart rate for excitement and heart rate for strategy

>>383302778
What's this from?

>>383302778
>EU
>High Strategy

>>383304984
>disclude
The correct word is "exclude" my friend.

>>383305592
OP here, I have absolutely no idea.

>>383303913
>this

all the games on that list are casual as fuck

>>383302778
>eu4
>strategh

>>383302778
>t. Blizzardfriend

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>>383302778
>EU
>high strategy

Thanks for the laugh laddo

>>383302778
>Kerbal Space Program that low in strategy
>Literally have to know rocket science

>>383302778
>EU
>high strategy
That's like saying Microsoft Paint has high strategy.

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>>383306602
Yeah it should be HOI4

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>>383308069
>people actually play the goi4 version of kaiserreich

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>>383308351
Its the superior version

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>>383308425
>Its the superior version
>prequel memes

dota has more strategy than starcraft and no single player games should be high on the strategy index, especially the waiting simulator that is EU4

>>383302778
You made a diagram without a single good game on it, impressive.

>>383302778
It shouldn't be tactics and strategy?

>eu4
>Hard

>>383307250
>melee

replace with guilty gear

>>383308982
>>383308665
>>383308351
>>383308069
>>383307628
(You)

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There's no way Dota belongs anywhere but the top right corner. I play almost nothing but strategy games including a brief stint with SC2 where I was Diamond 1v1 for three seasons and getting to 5k in Dota has easily been the most challenging thing I've experienced in a video game by a gigantic margin. The APM is more comparable than people think, according to Opendota my average APM on someone like AM or Storm where you're constantly trying to farm efficiently is ~300 and there's a much higher level of coordination and execution required when you have four other people that can shut you down in teamfights.

How can anyone possibly think shit like Civ, KSP, HoMM, X-COM, EU, and Total War requires even a fraction of the strategy that high level Dota does, let alone greater than it? Shit is baffling. Also lmao @ LoL being that high in excitement, I guess if you enjoy watching gooks rice for twenty minutes and have less than ten total kills happen half an hour into the match but then win because 5 > 4 and you can just push down a lane and end if you get a couple pick offs. LoL is an Overwatch tier eSport, balanced around casuals and stale as fuck competitively and only enjoyed because its huge playerbase forces it to stay relevant and the average player probably doesn't have the brain power to press more than two buttons at once so they'll find anything impressive.

>>383309120
w&b

>>383308982
>>383309120
eu4 is a unironically a shallow piece of cake

oh shit my gsg boiiis

Is this the willy waggling thread?

>>383309449
>bragging about skill in SC2
Come back when you can get past C- in Brood War.

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La Plata

>>383309850
waggle all you want me lad
>>383310190
>tfw no hitlermod

>>383305194
Unironically this.

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>>383302778
>only 2 games beyond the "threshold" are blizzard games

really makes you thing

>>383302778
>EU
>low excitement

Clearly you have never formed Prussia!

>>383302778
>Dota and Starcraft in the Cognitive threshold
lel

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>>383309449
>300 APM
>5k player

dota2 pro APM
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1464227696/farm

when pro players can't reach 200, a 5k faggot is getting 300? what the fuck are you doing that makes increases your APM, this literally makes no fucking sense in a game like dota

had a good laugh reading you pull shit straight out your ass though

>>383303913
>fucking this

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>>383302778
>EU
>high strategy
curse whoever made this shitty list

>>383302778
>total war and RCT
>same excitement
>RCT
>no strategy

What kind of braindead moron made this image? It's god tier bait.

>>383302778
>giving a fuck about how others live their lives.

/thread.

>>383302778
>Hearthstone
>more strategy than LoL

Dotards are so retarded it actually blows my mind. They will never get over that inferiority complex.

>>383310825
Actions Per Minute, not Gold Per Minute or something.
Just spam right click or something

>>383310190
W&B

>>383303913
Dorf Fort is easy as piss though. The real question is "Where is Aurora 4x?"

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>Factorio
>Maximum strategy, Maximum excitement

i dont like any of these games

>>383309449
>lol SC2 DOTA,
>APM
>ESports

esports are cancer,

give me "men of war assault squad 2" over starcraft 2 any day, I'm shit at it but it's got character at least, it doesn't feel overly polished within an inch of it's life.

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Fixed.

world of tanks isn't that exciting, and Total War is more exciting than that.

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Whoever made this has not played world of tanks.

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>>383302778
>MOBAs
>Exciting
These are literally the bottom of the barrel when it comes to excitement.

Regardless of whether they take much strategy or not, they are so fucking boring to either watch or play.

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>>383302778
>RCT
>Low excitement

>>383302778
>dota
>Excitement
>40 minutes of grinding AI mobs

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>>383303778
>>383304087
>>383305698
>>383306602
>>383307628
>>383308982
>>383309615
>>383311086

Dota 2 requires A LOT of strategy and deep thinking.

It's not easy to choose the perfect hat for your hero. Or decide which cosmetic set to buy between set A, set B, or... set C. And, let's not forget the courrier. Immortal or Rare?

Hard game.

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>>383317760

>>383302778

DotA is actually the best sports type game ever created by man.

I like EU IV, but I fucking hate it when people think that it's some sort of super-deep autismo game. Sure, it has a lot of different concepts to get hang of when you start it for the first time, but once one gets past the initial learning phase, that's it. Certainly not a hard or deep game, unless you are doing some of those harder challenge runs.

Should have something like Aurora or those super-detailed grognard miltary sim strategies there (War in the East etc.), desu.

>>383302778
I know you're gay because you put DOTA and Starcraft there, some of the gayest games ever made.

by gay, I mean specifically you're Gay.

>>383318085
Aurora isn't even difficult. Once you understand the game there is no challenge at all, the only difficulty is in the learning curve.

>>383318085
People just take one look at the interface, see tons of buttons, and think that "wow, this must be complicated". That explains it all.

>>383317760
Sometimes I wonder what makes Prussia the nation to attract the most neckbeards.

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I never did a single math equation when playing Kerbal space program and went to all the planets without mods.

The only exception was eve and that was because I downloaded a basic escape ship since I was too lazy to make my own.

>>383302778
>simscity has better strategy than cs:go
can i have the shit you're smoking, OP?

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>>383302778
LoL more exciting than HotS

>>383318573
counter-strike doesn't involve strategy.
it involves really basic rudimentary tactics, but not strategy.

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>Europa Universalis
>High strategy

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

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>>383318410
Every one who lived there was an autist so it makes sense.

>>383302778
wait, no one mentioned hearthstone ranks pretty high on the strategy and excitement scales for some reason.
actually it apparently takes more strategy than world of tanks.

>>383318410
They were so badass that the Allies had to cut it into pieces and give parts of it to Poland (the pigs of Europe) to humilate Germany and as a reminder to keep quiet, kinda like impaled heads.

And since it is no more, it didn't change so it's easy to glorify

>>383305786
Clearly he has a low cognitive threshold.

>>383318410
Autism begets autism

>Hearthstone
>Higher strategy than HoTS/LoL/CS

Bwhahahahahahah

>>383319521
Prussia, Russia, and Austro-Hungary split poland between themselves in the late 1700s. Most of the land returned to poland was traditionally polish land.

>>383302778
TW and pre EA takeover C&C are the only games I play on that list

>>383316562
>I hate that other people have fun

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>>383321076
>traditionally polish land.

Borders/countries change all the time, land belongs to the stronger one.
Took like 200 years to get that shit back and they didn't even achieve that themselves.

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>>383321076
All of europe is someone's traditional land, doesn't mean that Goymoney wasn't hacked up by the chauvinistic/revancheistic/butthurt french.

>inb4 hur dur pol t. prussia pro

German majority areas were taken away and given to another country using 15th century claims as a pretext. If traditional lands and fairness were the reason, then france should logically give independence to the south, give western france to England and Corsica to Italy, and England to give independence to Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland.

>>383302778
>league
>excitement
How to identify a cuck

>>383323041
>England to give independence to Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland.
Careful now

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>>383303778
>>383304087
>>383304552
>>383305698
>>383306226
>>383306602
>>383308982
>>383311086
Then what the fuck is High Strategy to (you) people

Every single one of those games sucks. Get some shmups, some fighters, even Go is a better game than those, and it's literally ancient

>>383324431
Are you new here? Nothing is high stradegy because /v/ is full of contrarians who only get off from disagreeing so they would fight you if you said the sky is blue.

>league exciting in any what way
no not really, you just jerk off for 20 minutes and snowball. It's predetermined who wins at this time too, much like candyland. The only time a game will throw is if someone blatantly fucks up carrying

>>383324754
Actually the sky isn't blue. It's a combination of all the other colors in different proportions that come together to make what you think is "blue".

>>383324882
Saw that coming a mile away.

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>>383318410
>a bunch of socially stunted germans being angry 24/7 for no discernible reason

What's not to like? Destroying prussian pros is more fun though

>>383302778
Civ XCOM and EU aren't exciting? What kind of shit gamer put this thing together...

>>383302778
>Dota
>Starcraft
Ebin graph you've got there, blizzdrone.

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>>383324549

>>383320064
but he right tho

>>383302778
what idiot made this pile of shit? league exciting? do you have the mental maturity of a toddler?

>>383325160
XCOM and CIV are purely turned based, and Europa Universalis has so much going on that you'll have to fairly play at a slow pace. I like the games, and know that they're not "exciting" in the sense of "being fast paced"

According to this standard, every RTS should be in or near the cognitive threshold. Especially Supreme Commander, holy shit

>>383324882
>>383324882
what's the difference between it appearing to be blue and actually being blue, if blue is the colour that i see?

>>383316830
This guy is just using 'exciting' to mean a scale from Real time <---> Turn based. But starcraft should be more 'exciting' than mobas.

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>Assfaggots
>High excitement
You can just tell this was made by some redditor

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Step aside plebs.

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>>383302778
>Total War more strategic than Starcraft
top kek, Broodwar should be way out in front in both excitement and strategy.

hello where is the mountain blade

>>383310119
This, Broodwar is GOAT

>>383310825
RTS' are the only place where having a high APM count will mean anything.
In MOBA's they don't mean jack.

>>383324882
>the sky isnt blue
>the sky is actually blue
great post

But none of these games are exciting, desu.

>>383310825
>meanwhile
https://youtu.be/SAo3QwnPruc

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>ITT people triggered their favorite game isn't on the high end.

>>383302778
So what variables were used to determine this?
Oh it's arbitrary?
oh well

>>383329146
Eu4 is one of my favourite games, but the graph is still arbitrary.

I think eu4 is better described as having width than depth imo.
When I think about it, it should be a lot higher on the excitement axis. I have decent apm while playing broodwar, and when I play multiplayer eu4 I still feel like my apm could be a little higher.¨

I don't see how total war is listed there.
Do people play it multiplayer and is there a lot of quick decisions that need to be made then?

>>383308982
I tried to play EU IV as Castille, but I found it quite difficult. I declared war on the country just to the south of me (think it was Grenada or something?) and they kicked my ass and conquered me.

Thought it would be easier to pick up after spending so many hours in HoI 4 and being pretty good at that game.

>>383330315
Who was Grenada allied with?

>>383302778
Dota should be much lower on the strategy scale now that it's objectively less hardcore than HoTS

>>383330481
Morocco and Tunisia, but they were across the water from me so I didn't think they would be a problem

>>383330598
Who were you allied with?

>>383302778
>Counter Strike
>Low Strategy
Those sub Eagle plebs man

>>383330315
There's a bit of a threshold to get over, but after you get over that threshold a lot of stuff in eu4 starts to look simple, probably why people go
>eu4
>Hard


Every other week I play in a eu4 multiplayer game and one new guy who had played eu4 once in vanilla and played a lot of eu3 got rekt by the AI, while another new guy got rekt by a more experience player(the one who got rekt by a player had a very easy nation even).
They've been destroyed in that competitive eu4 game, but I and another more experienced guy started a coop game with them to try to teach them stuff, and it is surprising what you need to teach people getting into the game.
It's easy to explain concepts like how you get money, and how to spend your mana, but when it comes to troop movements and managing your manpower it is harder to give a few quick tips. I don't know what the best way is to teach someone the art of war in that game.

>>383330859
Opened the thread to post this
That being said I haven't been eagle since 2015

>>383302778
So why is excitement, something subjective, paired with strategy, something obejctive?
Also where would zachtronics games fall on this?

>>383324431
HoI 3

>>383330756
Portugal, France and some tiny country to the north that I can't even remember the name of

>>383332276
Then how the fuck did you lose France is great and Portugal is decent

>>383332562
probably couldn't call them into the war

>>383332562
Neither Portugal nor France joined my war, so it was just me against three countries.

I just got stomped, all my ports got blockaded, some weird random events happened that made my stability go down to -2 and I ran out of money.

>>383332890
You should've blockaded Gibraltar and waited for portugal or France to join if you really needed that, Grenada can be awkward since all three provinces are mountains and they have a decent military for only having 3 mid-development provinces

>>383324431
Dominions 4 can be

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>>383334149
>total war the high point of strategy
loving every laugh

It's honestly city builder tier

First off how does Cities Skylines have less strategy than SimCity?
Aslo, to people saying EU4 doesn't have a lot of strategy, it does have the most compared to every game on that list.

>>383332890
Play as the Ottomans instead

>>383317760
how fucking asshurt do you have to be to make this picture jesus...

>>383335554
Seconding this. Ottomans are extremely strong and a great country to learn the basics with. They're pretty hard to fuck up.

>>383335554
>>383336557
Are they even easier than Castille? I thought Castille was the basic noob nation that was impossible to fuck up.

>>383318808
Compared to everything else on the list, I think it fits.

>>383336836
Easiest country in the game.

>>383328402
Mein nigger.

>>383315684
Aurora is maximum autism
Fuck designing everything

>>383302778
And where would you put spacechem?

>>383336836
Ottomans is Tutorial 1
Castille is Tutorial 2
Prussia is Tutorial 3
thus ends the tutorial

>>383339217
This so much. I really like the idea of Aurora, terraforming planets pleases my autism like nothing else. But god damn, designing every single ship manually drives me up the fucking wall.

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>>383339536
I designed a ship once, it had a gravity sensor so it was classified as a military ship, so military ships fall under a different repair system so you need to carefully plan them out so they don't catastrophically break every month
That's the point when I gave up

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tfw too intelligent to be stimulated by any genre other than strategy