Final Fantasy XV Is Terrible and Here’s Why:

>>383302337
I liked it.

You forgot the car controls like a trolley mixed with a tricycle.

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The More You Know:

>They added the Camping Mechanic so that they could promote Coleman products, not the other way around. Who knows how many collaborations they were denied; Literately begging for money.

>Kingsglavie was made with old Versus CG they didn’t want to throw out. Character likeness are 1-1 to their model so they don’t have to animated them. Chinese and Indian artists worked on the movie cause cheap labor. Entire thing costs less than 10 Million.

>They toke everything that was available to the public: Insomnia, Nifilhim as the Empire, Altissia’s invasion and made a game around that so fans wouldn’t get mad that anything was cut. That’s why the game ends 6 hours after leviathan.

>No-name English Voices Actors because cheap and Americans don’t care. The guy who did Noctis did Aduio books for Playboy and was Train Announcer for Persona 5. Really cheap.

>Nomura and the A-Team were taken out because Final Fantasy VII-Remake was deemed more profitable.

>The suits at Square forced the team to make an open world even though the entire team were against it.

>Hajimi Tabata has probably been promoted and gotten a raise while also been giving the rights of handling multiple of other big projects at Square Enix.

>>383302416
This desu.

>>383302337
Pretty much agree with all of your points, and I genuinely think a lot of people do too. The UI one especially resonates with people.

This is like some kind of reverse-shilling.

>>383302510
>No-name English Voices Actors
Yeah! Where's my Keither Sutherland and Yuri Lowenthal?!!! I mean, yeah the voice actors we got were good, but I've never heard of them so who cares??

>>383302416
If you "liked" this then you would've adored this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6kNTfS4320&t

It's like Full Metal Alchemist to Brotherhood.

>>383302510
I'm sure you have sources for these, right?

>>383302807
Gladio's Voice acting was awful... or maybe it was his dialogue...i think it was a mix of both.

>>383302337
Think of it as a test for a new formula, if they improve on these point in the next game, it can turn out pretty good.

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Tipping at all you haters right now.

>>383302807

the "named" ones were probably on strike, or something. their strike has been going on for a loooong time yet nobody gives a single fuck.

>>383302943
That doesn't diminishes the fact the I like it

>>383302976
This is why am still sticking to Final Fantasy, Video games are such hell to work with and XV had to die because SE was still stuck at the that 360/PS3 era. It was a necessary sacrifice.

XV was in the perfect place: It sold well and had it enough fans to continue the series, but enough fans were bitching of the things that mattered. Hopefully they improve.

>>383302510
Noctis VA did pretty well and he was also in (and did well in) Berseria and Automata.

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You guys excited for Gamescom? They said they are showing big things....

>>383303961
Probably a PC release. Good for PCbros who want thw game but I've already played it to death and am not buying it again.

>>383303961
Why are they showing big things now all this time after the game released? It's almost like they have enough cut content to make a new game.

>>383302949
Yeah it's called his ass anon.

>>383304132
Guessing PC Release. XIV collaboration and that DLC expansion they are working on.

Maybe a beta for the online multiplayer?

>>383304132
PC release isnt really big news. Especially with how its been teased multiple times in the past

>Tfw put 200 hours into XV and overall loved it
I really want a DLC about Ardyn's past or Nyx tho tbqh

Something that's been bothering the fuck out of me is that I can't get the second attack of a greatsword to come out by tapping attack twice. I can mash it out and hold it out but I can't for the life of me find the correct timing for only tapping twice. He always puts his sword away.

im still waiting for the game to ship from amazon. i beat my friends copy a long time ago and still dont have it.

>>383305665
Because the combat was designed with holding attack in mind. It's a pathetic action game.

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>/v/
>hates FFXV because it "have" bad combat and storytelling
>enjoy and praise the Souls series


Anons, don't take the opinion of the majority of the people in this board seriously, FFXV is a good naturally flawed game, easily an 8/10.

My quarrels;

> Jumping and action are the same button. fuck that
> Gladio VA feels forced as all fucks.
> Majority of the time spent was in the car (which was nice at first, and then became "Is Ebony really that good" simulator)
> I had no issues with product placement whatsoever since it wasn't shoved in your face.
> 12's landscaping felt better than 15's and more varied
> What people hated about 12's combat, they praised 15's combat for. fuck gambits still tho.
> Combat is too easy.

and to me, the biggest fucking flaw

> Kingsglaive was just used for cutscene purposes
Literally no relation to the best thing to come from this game, the prequel movie. I seriously hope one of the DLCs they just haven't announced yet or will is something relating to Nyx and his backstory, along with acknowledging his work for the city.

>>383302491
>You forgot the car controls like a trolley mixed with a tricycle.

wow, they managed to fuck up the car after allowing you to off road with it?

What can Square do right with this mess?

>>383303185
I still refuse to believe that this is a real product shat out by square

>>383306820
>>enjoy and praise the Souls series

those have good storytelling and combat.

XV's combat is "Hold O to win" and that carries you though 95% of the fights you encounter in the game.

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What do you guys think of Tabata?

I personally respected him before the game released as he showed confidence in his work. After I finished the game and the credits rolled I felt I was scammed.

In the end he was just suit.

>>383307780
I have a feeling he was mostly clueless and i pretty much a yes man. Though it seems at least that every shitty design choice made in ffxv was his doing.

>>383307780
We saw of him in interviews and ATR then we needed to. He tried to sell himself and to make sure if this game was a success he would rise more then any director.

>>383307780
Dude barely played video games his last was CoD 2009 lol.

>>383307780
He was given a raw deal. He was brought in to fix an unfinished mess and had tons of pressure from fans and the execs. Despite this he still made a better game than Toriyama and whoever the fuck ended up directing XII at the end. Not saying much, but it's something. If he were given a blank slate the game would have been much better, but he had to use Nomura's aborted scraps. And surprise surprise Nomura is already fucking up the VII remake and signaling that it's going to be another drawn out development cycle. It's going to be a hot mess.

>>383307780
Yoshida is way better, he knows Square fucked up and admitted it and at least he finsihed every FF not like Tabata who only finished FF1, no wonder it has so many "references" to it.

>>383308728
>Despite this he still made a better game than Toriyama and whoever the fuck ended up directing XII at the end

whatever you say.

XII >>>>> XV

>>383307780
All his games have been completely mediocre.

>>383303185
Tips fedora

>>383302337
my main problem, and a deal breaker one

the FUCKING tiny, microscopic font they use in the entire game, I can barely read that shit cause my TV is pretty far from the sofa

>>383308728

I disagree. As a director he CHOSE (you cann look up the interviews) to have the game:

-Open-world even though the Team said "No, we can't".
-Focused too much on Animation and polygon count. Made the game look like Uncharcted in an openworld.
-No hit telegraph.
-FFXV universe.
-Season Pass.

Many, many things. If this game had scaled back in graphical quality, had an improved KH combat and not have been an open world it would have benefited immensely.

But FFXV was meant to sell it, being a good game was bonus.

>>383309001
>he finsihed every FF

Source? Mad respect if true.

>>383308728
First of all XV is absolutely not better than XII, at all, its also fundamentally worse than XIII-2 and LR. Second, why don't we take a look at his "blank slate" games? Crisis Core, pretty good. Type-0, mediocre. 3rd Birthday, garbage. The story was there, a more talented director would have been able to tell it in it's entirety rather than fill the game with 100 fetch quests and product placement. It seems they also had a working combat build judging from the footage of them fighting in the courtyard. Menu-based like KH, timed dodges, limited warps, actual fucking magic.

>>383307712
>souls series
>good combat and storytelling
Sure, rolling around one hundred times and maybe hitting one or two times to start rolling around another one hundred times no matter what "class" you pick is a lot of fun. Waiting hours and hours of gameplay to pass to the game maybe show a single cutscene that always lasts a few seconds to try to explain something about this generic as hell lore is quite good storytelling as well.

>"hold O to win"
Not quite.
The game actually have: dodge, magical dodge, parry, warping in the scenario, warping to attack, elemental magic with different effects on enemies, different techniques with every character that changes combat a lot, tons of itens, summons and an amazing enemy variety. This "FFXV combat is just holding a single button" meme need to end.

>>383302975
Gladio's really hit or miss for me. Most of his battle grunts sound off, but stuff towards the end like how he said his heart was ready but his legs were unwilling or whatever going to the final battle sounded completely fine.

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Threads for this game are so terrible, whether for it or against it.

>>383309503
It was also worth noting that Crisis Core had the budget and an A-team cause it was a major game in the Final Fantasy VII Compilation.

>>383309503
>3rd Birthday
>Garbage

yeah the story was completely retarded but I liked the gameplay, it was somewhat bullet spongey but it was good and its gimmick was nice and fun, graphics were good for a PSP as well

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>>383309207
*steals your waif*

>>383309659
This is by far the best thread we had in months.

>>383309659
>or against it
People's grievances with this game are completely justified. Get your fence-sitting ass out of here, this game deserves all the hate it gets.

>>383309659
Pretty much.

>>383309819
Uh, I'd say thread a couple hours ago was a little better.

>>383309628
>dodge
which is also a "hold button" thing

>magical dodge
can only obtain after equipping the ring

>parry
only after a QTE prompt

>warping in the scenario
only if you see a spot to warp to

>warping to attack,
it's nice to get the jump on someone but the damage is lessened the closer you are to your target

>elemental magic with different effects on enemies
that also affect your allies, making them useless

>different techniques with every character that changes combat a lot
which is a selectable skill, they don't use the moves on their own

> tons of itens
that you can use at any time to get rid of ailments

>summons
RNG.

>>383307780
All of his games have never been anything more than mediocre.
And mind you, it's not like Square didn't have its fair share of mediocre games even in the golden age of the 4th/5th gen, but at least most of those games actually tried doing something different, like Live A Live, Bushido Blade, Racing Lagoon or Ehrgeiz, Tabata's shtick is doing the same mediocre ARPGs with style over substance over and over again, and make as many characters die because that's deep and dramatic.

>>383309628
>summons
Kek. Go play a KH game if you want to see what actual summons are.

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>>383302337
I agree with you on all points, yet I still thoroughly enjoyed it.

>>383309746
What is this from?

>>383310465
I also enjoyed Deadly Premonition and the game itslef isn't that great. XV isn't shit, it's just dissapointing for a mainline FF/what it may could've been

>>383310698
some new FFXV mobage

>>383310698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItVhP0MAfXI

>>383310827
Damn, even as someone who loved XV, that was really bad.

FF XV gets more shit than it deserves, probably have the hype surrounding it to blame.

Overall the game is filled with good ideas and cool concepts, its big flaw is being unfinished and therefore unpolished.

Combat is interesting to say the least and shows its true potential when you hunt for targets way above your level or do the post game hidden dungeons. Problem is the lack of polish and balance, the healing system is a complete disaster that trivializes and already fairly easy game.

>>383310742
XV is kinda shit though. It's just has a little bit more effort to it than other shit games. It's a pretty piece of shit.

>>383311537
>probably have the hype surrounding it to blame.

Not too long ago the Final Fantasy brand would bring the house down; It was GTA tier of hype. I'm not sure you know how much the name was a system seller.

god damn

https://www.destructoid.com/which-is-worse-final-fantasy-xv-a-new-empire-or-futurama-worlds-of-tomorrow--447390.phtml

>>383311537
>probably have the hype surrounding it to blame
Maybe at first, by the time we've played the multiple demos people knew deep down it wasn't good, so over expectations can't be used to excuse how bad it is . It could have easily lived up to the hype had it had more talented people working on it. Versus was Nomura's next project, a dark FF game with action combat set is a realistic setting. People were excited sure but I wouldn't say people expected the greatest game of all time, that goes to MGSV.

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>>383304132
When it's on PC, we can finally mod into a good game.

>>383312616
Modders have a lot of work ahead of them to make that happen.

>>383311948
FF XIII really shat the bed though and especially after Square started to release truckloads of ports on everything and mediocre mobile games the Final Fantasy brand become associated with mediocrity.

It is a shame though because the XIII trilogy wasn't that bad overall and Lightning Returns is one of Square's best RPG in many years.

It still blows my mind how much hype XV recieved though despite all the redflags and the IP decline in popularity.

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>Final Fantasy XV is essentially Final Fantasy I in the current time.
>Magic and IPhones...etc.
>A unique setting wasted for incompetence.

>>383312616
Oh fuck off, people always say this and in 99.9% of cases all they do is bad nude mods.
But of course they will praise the game non stop just like FFXIII

>>383302337
0/10 made me reply.

You dumb fucking idiot. FFXV is one of the finest JRPGs ever made. Stop with the baitposting and go play the game yourself instead of watching gameplay videos of it.

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>>383312616
>>383312790

Tabata said he wanted modding in the PC version if possible.

>Not only we get smf but a good game.

>>383313119
What is so great about it? Name a couple of features you like?

>>383312846
>and Lightning Returns is one of Square's best RPG in many years.
You must have really low standards when LR is more of a Tri Ace game to begin with and it's also a failed Valkyrie Profile clone, Squenix last good big budget game was The Last Remnant.

>>383313119
I want Rob Tyler Campbell to leave.

>>383313119
if ffxv is good then imagine the bad ones

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>>383313160
>Japanese console RPG
>modding
>b-but guy that has no saying when it comes to publishing said he wants something maybe!

>>383313548
http://www.pcgamer.com/final-fantasy-xv-director-talks-pc-version-with-mod-support-and-user-made-quests/

>"Also, I would like to try developing on PC to pursue a unique way of playing with PC-exclusive features like making your own quests and enjoying the world using things like mods.

>>383312616
Didn't work for Skyrim, won't work for FFXV.

>>383313548
All I can think of them doing is modding in Noct's V13 outfit since its in the files. Adjust damage and hp values so you can kill Ravus in under an hour. Add Cor, Iris, and Aranea in your party much more easily.

>>383313975
>Adding hit detection
>Better UI.
>Adding more quests in the open-world.
>Reprogramming the combat to not be hold x to win.
>Better camera.
>Japanese voices by default.

>>383314179
>Adding hit detection
>Adding more quests in the open-world
>Reprogramming the combat to not be hold x to win
I doubt modders will be able to do this, maybe add new (shitty) quests, but not the rest.

>>383314536
My bets modders would stop doing anything after naked Cidney, Iris and Ara reskins.

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>>383313285
TLR was fucking dope, I remember getting a used 360 for that game.

Maybe I have shit taste but I reallly enjoyed LR, combat gave you plenty of offensive and defensive options, could get incredibly strategic, was a perfect mix of skill and mind, supported by a difficulty that didn't think of the player as a retarded weaboo JRPG fan or an obnoxious normalfag.

Atmosphere was great, OST was great, progression was great, writing was great. Loli Lightning is really nice too but not everybody likes the kind of character that Lightning is.

>>383314749
Then we can finally get Aranea and Cindy sfm, and maybe Iris jerking Talcott off or something.

>>383314179
>Japanese voices by default.

The current state of PC gamers. They can't even go into option settings menu and switch to Japanese.

Men, the good old days of HL mods really are over aren't they?

>>383313217
I'll same several. The beautiful fantastical open world, fast-paced action-oriented combat, the characters, story, music, creatures etc etc. Get some taste you shit-eating hillbilly.

>>383315096
What's your true and honest opinion on RE7?

>>383315068
With fanbase like this you rather get Prompto riding Gladio's giant cock.

>>383315431
It is inevitable I suppose.

>>383315431
>Woman and fags knowing how to smf.

No.

>>383302337

You left out the shitty localization. Anything SE localizes in-house becomes faux pretentious nonsense that doesn't give a shit about translation accuracy. It's been this way since the merger.

>>383315594
>They actually didn't notice that they used the same shitty pun twice.

Burn it with fire.

>>383313119
Dont mind me asking, What are some JRPGs you have played?

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>>383313119

Trying too hard to emulate XV-kun

>>383315250
No Leon. No buy.

>>383316476
Lost Odyssey
SMT
Fire Emblem
Previous Final Fantasy
The Last Remnant
Resonance of Fate
Xenoblade

>>383317428
Kill yourself my man.

>>383317713

Having played all these, how can you possibly praise XV?

>>383317713
Wow, respect, that's thousands of combine hours man, i guess ur right about XV.

>>383317713
So all mediocre rpgs. I see why you praise XV so much.

>>383318224

>mediocre

There's that word again.

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>>383302337
>Playing FFXV and then immediately going back to play KH2FM on Critical
It's nice not having to hold down a single button to win all your fights

>>383317978

Just namedropping to reel in those (You)s. I highly doubt anyone who's finjsbed TLR or RoF could hold XV in such high regard. It simply doesn't make sense.

>>383319087
>I highly doubt anyone who's finjsbed TLR or RoF could hold XV in such high regard. It simply doesn't make sense.

Not him but I play Neptuina games and the most recent one, V-II, I hold in higher egard than FFXV

>>383317978
It's because I can think for myself and am not a member of the hi/v/emind like you.

>>383319087
>B-but he didn't play them!

Consider the rope.

>>383319169
I've never played a Nep game but I'm sure they're better than FFXV. It feels like a capeshit movie, just a product of sound and movement jumbled together to form an incoherent mess. You enjoyed it because of the momentary fun but ultimately forgot about or didn't like it as time went on.

>You'll never play Versus XIII on your Nintendo Switch

The bad timeline

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>>383318224
>mediocre rpgs

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>>383319382

>much hivemind
>his list was the most generic /v/core list imaginable

>>383319765
(You)

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>>383307712
>XV's combat is "Hold O to win"
Hmmm....

>>383319765
Wouldn't say /v/-core, but he conveniently put RoF and TLR in there for "hardcore" cred.

>>383320169
Hold O but dont be an idiot and run into its attacks.

>>383320169
>not doing anything after being downed

it's your fault for dying

it's also part of the 5% of the fights where Holding O will not let you win

>>383320169

>another "running straight into attacks" webm

>>383320371
>>383320467
Don't bother he always takes it to the extremes and takes everything too serious

>>383320467
He's so insecure about the Hold O thing, it's hilarious. XV is literally synonymous with "Hold O" on every forum.

>>383320169
>goes monochrome for a split second then attacks
Its like the devs you you would be holding down square the entire time in every fight.

>>383320169
DO YOU HAVE A WEBM THAT CAN COUNTER OP?! NO?

K, NOW FUCK OFF.

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>Just hold O, you'll win!

>>383319382

It's mostly likely you just eat jrpgs up like shit, and like them all for the sake of it. I've known people like you

>>383320560
I know it's XV-kun shitposting

because he always posts that webm and like 2 others when people who played the game sum up the combat as "Hold O"

any logical/casual/DSP player would use an item at that point. XV-kun does not because it would mean not holding O

tldr, he's sucking to try and "prove a point"

and note how >>383320915 and >>383320169 are of the same enemy. Really makes you think that one enemy is something that "Hold O" does not work on.

>>383320915
You forgot to hold the button that auto-dodges for you.

>>383320915
Im genuinely not sure what that webm is trying to prove.

>>383321075
Not him, but I tried holding both using a different control scheme (O was mapped to R2 and Square was mapped to L2)

>>383321119
that guy is holding O and doing nothing but Holding O. He is using an optional enemy to "prove wrong" the people who say that the combat is Hold O to win.

just ignore those webms,it's a blind fanboy baiting.

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>>383321073
It's not just one enemy, without good spatial awareness or mastery of party optimization any enemy in XV can easily kill you.

>>383320915
Congratulations, you've figured out that you don't actaulyl just hold circle to win. What you ACTUALLY do is hold square until Ignis' Overwhelm skill comes up then use that for about 30 seconds of free attacks while invincible.

Dear Diary...

>>383321381
thats bullshit
the only thing you need to do is jsut press the dodge button when an enemy attacks
very rarely do you actually need either of those two things

>>383321483
>What you ACTUALLY do is hold square until Ignis' Overwhelm skill comes up then use that for about 30 seconds of free attacks while invincible.

I never bothered to use any skills outside of the starting ones for the longest ass time (only because you can have one set at a time)

>>383302337
I like how everyone completely forgets the fact that they released an unfinished game and just skipped to the ending because square wanted to release it, but hey it's a good effort

>>383321680
FFXV is basically a AAA Early Access game

>>383321007
It's most likely that you eat shit. I've hear of people like you.

>>383321680
>>383321797

SE Japan CEO said this is their future model going forward for AAA non-western titles since it worked with XV.

>>383321940
>SE Japan CEO said this is their future model going forward for AAA non-western titles since it worked with XV.

whelp, rip FF as a respectable series

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>>383321381
I played and enjoyed FFXV, but there's literally only like, four or five enemies in the entire game where you can't just hold O. The entire game is a fucking cakewalk, especially if you accidentally over level, which is extremely easy to do. Food buffs just make it more trivial.

>>383322181
>I played and enjoyed FFXV, but there's literally only like, four or five enemies in the entire game where you can't just hold O.

and note how his webms are of those only 4-5 enemies.

Which is why >>383307712 mentions "95% of the fights" and not "all the fights"

>>383322181
>I played and enjoyed FFXV, but there's literally only like, four or five enemies in the entire game where you can't just hold O.
There's basically three enemies in XV:
-Do whatever you want and it'll die.
-Hold square then press counter when prompted.
-Shitty environmental enemies.
And that's it. Most everything falls to the exact same tactics (magic, Armiger, Overwhelm, Zwill, stronger warp attacks, whatever).

>>383302337
I think the U.I's looks neat, but I hope there'll be a few tweaks on that. Anyhow, I do agree with most of your point but I still enjoyed my time with the game though. However, I am pissed at how rushed the game was from chapter 9~15. I hope they'll announce a fix on that issue on that "big" announcement on gamescom.

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>FFXV releases September.
>Bugs and Glitches everywhere.
>6.5 from IGN, a 6 from Gamespot.
>Metascore of 73/100.
>The newest No Man's Sky.
>Square Enix and Tabata apologies.
>Fans cry out that they made them wait 10 years for this shit.
>Make Season Pass for free.
>Fans don't care.
>Actually rework the game for 2.0 release.
>"Final Fantasy XV: International Edition SUMMER 2018".
>Update free for original owners and a Re-release so they could make a profit. Also on PC.
>Game reviews very well. 86 on Metacritic.
>Square promises no more early-access bullshit. Works on worthwhile Expantions only.
>Final Fantasy VII Remake is now only one game instead of episodic.
>Take-out Tabata from directing a major game.
>Everybody wins.

We truly live in the darkest timeline...

>>383322953
Square wouldn't have had the money to do jack shit with it if that happened, and theres no way in fuck they wouldn't charge for the season pass and re-release.

>>383322953
>Update free for original owners

doubt that. They didn't do that crap for Street Fighter 4 to Street Fighter 4 Ultra

>>383302337
Why your list is useless:

I had fun

>>383323210
>Square wouldn't have had the money to do jack shit with it if that happened

Square now has more money then they ever had. Inhalations included.

>>383323226
Street Fighter 4 was a great game, though.

>>383323552
Mindless fun, yes. If it had those points you would've had the time of your life.

>>383323554
The game would have been seen as a failure, ending the franchise's console releases.

>>383321381
I played 40 hors of this game and have never encountered that enemy

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Fishing was the most challenging thing in the game

>>383310216
You're right it's all mediocre, Crisis Core was just pointless, I didn't care for the side characters or Zack just wasn't interesting. It didn't feel like it was cut from the same cloth.
It's close to Dirge of Cerberus.

Type-0 is quite good, from what I tried of it. Fairly brutal, which is what makes xv fairly disappointing, Just the absolute lack of violence or blood. Cookie cutter PG stuff. We should get a mature rpg, for us guys.

lmao did Barry get a heart attack or something

>>383324158
>ffxv-kun is somewhere else on a saturday, not defending ffxv
No anon, we are the losers.

>>383323778
if you wander in the southern area they are common as fuck ans very annoying.

Made one quest near impossible because there was like 5 of these fucks and you needed to find traps in a specific area while they were ganging up on you

>>383324114
the final fishing quest was a fucking nightmare. Line was at like 150 durability by the end

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>>383321381
You sound like a fucking marketer

>>383321940
That's not what he said though but it is as scary. He said, going forward, they think that making/releasing games as a service is the future. There are two ways to see this, one is that they're going to go the Hitman route or they're thinking of mobile titles and MMOs since those two are their most profitable product. I really hope for the latter, but XV's success makes me fucking nervous of the future. I don't like wishing something bad for someone's effort, but I want XV's paid DLCs to fail so that those suits will think that this model is stupid and not profitable for a singleplayer AAA titles. Have they not listen at how pissed gamers are at western studios? Fucking hell, Squares suits are retarded.

>>383324380
That's like one day out of the entire year. He's just using his vacation time and then he'll back to his regularly scheduled shitposting.

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>>383324606
XV-kun also tried shitting on KH2FM, which was just fucking silly.

>>383324826
He basicly tried shitting on every game except for XV at this point

>>383324647
Nigga, it's only going to get worse from here, I promise you.

>>383324647
>>383324943

Yeah, the game sold 6 million. Square is just finding that safe line where the risk and reward is much safer.

>>383324918
He operates in a very odd manner. He'll defend XV and Tabata's involvement with XV, but he could care less about Tabata's other games or Tabata outside of XV. He also doesn't ever defend the external projects like KG or Brotherhood or the mobile trash alone. He'll only be on the defense in regards to those things if it relates to a discussion about XV's quality. You could spend an entire thread shitting on Tabata's efforts with Type-0 or KG and he really wouldn't give a shit. He is so singularly focused on XV, it's pretty bizarre. It's almost like he was programmed to behave a certain way. It's all very systematic, his approach.

XV is shit because it has no music of its own. It doesn't have a single memorable track.

>>383325478
not him but I did not know that was mobile trash until this very thread

>>383325850
the remix of the main theme and Apocalypsis Aquarius (you could count Apocalypsis Noctis but that has some slightly different instruments so it doesn't feel like a different song)

>>383325478
Whenever someone brings up the mobile game he says Square has totally nothing to do with it and the VR thing is totally Sonys fault

>>383325968
I really did not like apocalypsis aquarius/noctis. Elder Scrolls musical parallels took me out of it and it's associate with some of the worst sequences I have ever played (Titan and Leviathan)

>>383302510
While I didn't think Noctis' VA fit, he didn't do a bad job.

>>383325478
To be fair to him. Versusfags, not fans, (the fans are level headed), are quite annoying as well. Eventhough I can understand why, but those fags are getting pretty obnoxious. If they actually put an effort to follow XV's development, they'd actually wouldn't buy XV. It is known right from the start that XV's theme is going to change, and that change is fairly consistent throughout the game's development. There's more than enough demo that should've been enough to remind them that the Versus that they want is long gone. I know how misleading Omen trailer can be, but listen/read what Tabata actually said after the trailer, it's NOTHING, nothing significant to the plot or anything, it's Regis's vision of Noctis if he were to travel alone. Then they decided to go, "oh XV is dark mang, I'm hyped my nigga." If they'd actually listened or followed, they'd be spare out of their buyers remors. Heck if anyone actually followed the game's development, one would actually not buy XV, as even late into development they encounter a crash on a live event and that Titan demo. The game's development placed more red flags than fucking minesweeper.

>>383326519
That's what I mean. He just kind of brushes it aside as someone else's problems without responding to the complaints. Square did have involvment with all the external media, even if most of it was outsourced, but they're not XV and therefore do not deserve walls of text in defense.

>>383302337
>people finish it, therefor it is not dificult
how retarded are you?

>>383308728
You're a misinformed retard

>>383325850
Dewdrops At Dawn, Hellfire, Overworld theme that plays when on foot, Up For the Challenge, Veiled in Black, Invidia

>>383327483
All shit. Also, Hellfire is mostly generic filler. There's only a few good parts in it near the end.

>>383327606
Dewdrops At Dawn is one of the best songs in the franchise, and this is coming from someone who didn't even like XV that much. I don't know how you can claim it's shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcAYocTdRbk

>>383327002
So should they have just ignored the game? Every change they made was for the worse, people who wanted Versus are understandably angry.

>>383328060
Its another fucking leitmotif dude, it sounds nice but thats all the OST has.

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>>383324606
>Spatial Awareness

>>383328313
It's Shimomura's style she's pretty much always composed music like this.

>>383324446
Did you ever try catching the pink gar? That is some fucking bullshit right there

TEN FUCKING YEARS

>b-but they only started development 3-4 years ago

Fuck you. They announced it over ten years ago and had ten fucking years to unfuck themselves and deliver something worthwhile. Did they? No.

>>383323682
The game is seen as a masterpiece and has the most positive reviews and GOTY awards of any Final Fantasy game.

>>383328480
Yes you would know if you actually played the game instead of shitposting here, Warp Strike and Link Strikes change the paradigm of action RPGs by making positioning through your surroundings a key part of combat.

>>383328146
I actually think people who followed Versus would've been happier had any ties to Versus been scrapped in XV and they used the assets to make a brand new game within the 4 years of development time they had.

>>383328825

Oh, hey, he's here.

>>383328825
I said 'would have' you inbred cretin, are you ffxv-kun? Fucking kill yourslef you complete waste of breath, never have I ever seen a more insufferable idiot than you, defending this garbage excuse for a video game.

>>383328825
Thoughts on magic and special commands?

>>383328825
Eat shit, you troglodyte

>>383328827
Exactly this. The characters, story, lore, etc. all had great potential to be interesting but ended up being squandered in the final product. The gameplay further added insult to injury.

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>>383325850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEMXHYyqPwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA-bM8hvkCo

>>383328657
I don't think so

>>383328825
>if you actually played the game
we could post proof but you wound deny it as "fake"

>>383328825
>the game is seen as a masterpiece

The current voice of Final Fantasy Normies on Youtube said XV is an objective 7.5, and went on to say how that's actually a terrible score for a mainline FF game. Another big Normie FF youtuber said that it is a deeply flawed game and not a masterpiece. Everyone in the comments pretty much agreed with them too in both cases. There's also tons of videos made by fans on YT expressing their disappointment with the game. XV is also seen as pretty lukewarm on Gamefaqs and even here on /v/.

This game is clearly divisive, on par with the reception of XIII and XII. Stop deluding yourself.

>>383329303
Is this actually in the game? I've played XV 3 times, and have never seen this screenshot.

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>>383329130
Magic is the best it's even been in the series because it now has an impact on more than enemies and it can now effect the environment and surroundings around you.

The crafting system also allows for endless variety in certain effects to your magic.

>>383329514
When you get to that Tenebrae city on the train, it's a meal you can buy on the trail

>>383329604
>and it can now effect the environment and surroundings around you.
and this includes your allies causing them to not be good in the fight

>>383329303
>drinking milk with dinner
Literally subhuman

>>383329604
That looks terrible.

>>383329303

Those songs are both completely forgettable, and that train theme is virtually nothing with the same guitar riff repeated every 10 or so seconds. Shameful.

>>383329604
Hey man, as someone who loved XV, and put nearly 300 hours in it, what are some faults you have with the game? I'm honestly curious. XV was my first ever platinum, and I did have one problem: Pitioss. Pitioss is just not fun to me, at all.

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>>383329471
>is an objective 7.5
Any game that has story content gutted to be resold as DLC a year after the game's initial launch is an objective 4/10 in my eyes, can't believe they're getting away with this.

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>>383307552
Believe it anon.

>>383330003
I'll stick with the Futurama game and FGO as the mobages I am playing

>>383329604

The magic is fucking trash because if you use it your party will get their shit slapped. There's literally no reason to use it when you can just hold down O instead.

Why is it always the australians

>>383329604
Magic is a palette swap aoe attack and you can't even cast on specific enemies. It's also timer based and takes up a weapon slot, making it cumbersome. You're better off with a full slot of weapons. Magic is the worst its ever been in the series.

>>383310698
One of the XV:aNE commercials.

>>383329920
Not much, the second half of the game could be slightly improved by having Tenebrae open to the players for example and I think some of the side quests were repetitive but aside from those two minor issues not much. It's definitely in my three games.

FFXV made me realize how unappreciated FFXIII soundtrack was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Dgj83Q-50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl-oIr8Zq90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2kZ_LQspg

>>383330575
I see. I honestly thought that you thought the game was perfect or something. For me, it's a 9.5, without Pitioss it'd probably be a 9.8. I seriously cannot stand that place, I've done it twice, never again.

>>383329604
Glad you like the grenade style crafting system but wouldn't it be nice to use the intended magic like cure, poison, protect or esuna directly without having to craft it first?
Personally, i have only used magic for a few occasion, such as flan and costlemark secret dungeon . Do you use magic often?

>>383330667
I honestly really like XIII. People act like because I like XIII, it was my first, but it wasn't. My first was V on the PS1. I don't get the hate for XIII, I liked the story, characters, and world.

>>383330575
How were you not bothered with how disappointingly rushed World of Ruin was or how unevenly paced the game is. Or the colossal failures (no pun intended) that were Leviathan and Titan.

>>383330929
>>383330667

I thought XIII was great, and in fact enjoyed it way more than 13-2. In fact, it's the only FF I've ever 100%'d, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfu0XBf8kmk

>>383302337
>Can only accept one hunt at a time.


I don't get why the gameplay loop of FFXV isn't accepting a bunch of hunts and driving around the world doing them in succession and finding side quests (that aren't broken cars/legs) in the world.

>>383330667
Think you meant to say WoFF's OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p--9Ukn-K2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52o_Yj8ItGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKD5HNkEksI

Hamauzu is the comfiest composer ever, Besaid is easily my favorite Final Fantasy song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw

>>383330127
>Futurama
Isn't that one just as bad?

Honestly playing NE for laughs though I do find the concept could work in the FF plane & hope they fix all the current problems & have one giant patch like XIV.

I liked XV after I finished it, but months went by and my opinion of it got worse and worse as I looked back on what I played. What did my brain mean by this?

>>383320169
> Hold Square to hurtle around the battlefield like an airborne spastic with no guaruntee if you'll dodge attacks or even what direction you'll lurch.

Why couldn't they just do KH2 combat?

>>383331057
I got close to 100%it, but I couldn't ever kill the Adamantoise, even with Death, so I just said fuck it and quit.

>>383331272
You were high on hype and then once your brain played settled down and played what I'm guessing are much better games this year, it stopped lying to itself.

>>383331272
You probably were in denial and you were slowly accepting the reality.

>>383331272
I was thoroughly mad post Altissia. Somnus playing while in the ruins of Insomnia was the cherry on top. Fuck this game.

>>383329604
> Magic is the best it's even been in the series because it now has an impact on more than enemies

Too bad I never ever wanted to use it, because my allies would get killed every single time I used magic.

>>383331247
it's slightly less worse because it feels like the creators actually cared

>It's another 'go get frogs' side quest
Name ONE (1) game with worse side quests than Final Fantasy XV.

>>383331769
Magic in this game is what happens when you're trying too hard to be creative.
>somebody actually thought something like Fira-Blizzara was a good idea and worth casting

>>383331272
Honeymoon phase.

This is strictly exclusive to arraigned marriages, but yeah you get the point.

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>mfw XV-kun is STILL lurking 24/7 to defend this fucking game

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>>383332743
>YFW XV-kun has a heart attack

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Question:

Do you guys think if this game released on Sept 30th as original intended and was slammed by reviews and had a controversy similar to Mass Effect: Andormdia and No Man's Sky, there would've been a small chance we would've gotten Versus XIII? Even if it's years away?

>a movie
>an anime
>A King's Tale
>an official live action cosplay performance
>important content placed into DLC
>MMO-tier updates
>now a fucking moba game

Is there a single game that has overstayed its welcome and tried so hard to stay in the limelight the way XV has?

Hard mode: don't say FFXIII

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>make a JRPG
>forget to make an interesting world, quest and characters
This is the most significant thing because the whole way through the game you are never really given any reason to care about who they are and what they're doing. It's as if the story was an afterthought and that the main thing is driving in a car and looking at pleasant scenery.

Absolutely sacrilegious game and even worse than 13 which, despite its flaws, was at least identifiably an FF game and a JRPG.

>>383318565
KH needs one or two giant summons though. lemme summon satan and his volcano

>>383333481
More like
>make a JRPG
>actually make a WRPG with all the currently popular memes and put JRPG characters in it

>>383333481
>you are never really given any reason to care
Not just you, NOBODY gives a shit in that game.
>You're a prince
>Your kingdom was destroyed not twenty miles away
>Thousands dead
>Your dad, the *king*, is dead
>Full-scale invasion currently going on
And yet every NPC is just "Oh hey cool car could you pick up some shit for me from the next town over"

>>383333481
>the whole way through the game you are never really given any reason to care about who they are and what they're doing

Exactly this.
What also gets me is how much people praise the main cast when they're just as shitty as the side characters.

>>383333481
They LITERARY made an open world then made the story around that.

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>>383334143
>They LITERARY made an open world
Why are there more gas stations than cars on the road though? That's not a good open world.

>>383334080
How is it that nobody else but Dino and that /v/ self-insert guy with the camera recognized who Noctis was? I heard a couple of NPCs remark on how weird his clothes were but that's about it.

why did the cool action hero guy from kingsglaive have a woman's name

>>383334536
why did no one try to steal shit from the regalia when you leave it alone with the top down for potentially days at a time? it's nicer than literally every single other car you see in the game, it has no alarm system, and most people look poor as shit, you'd think someone would go for tires or engine shit

>>383334536
Or why don't Noctis and crew don't give a shit that Prompto is an MT? Nothing matters in FFXV, ever.

>>383335038
there was probably a deep and involved subplot about that buried in the timeskip where prompto sorted through all that shit

i like how noctis missed ten incredibly important years of his friends' lives and mostly skipped the shared trauma of living in the apocalypse, but they're all still bff when he wakes up

>>383334132
>how much people praise the main cast when they're just as shitty as the side characters

I'm surprised by it too. While Whonafreya, her brother and other folks with 10 minutes on screen have excuse of being 10 minutes on screen, main cast demonstrates from little (Noctis) to no(Gladiolus) development at all.

>>383335038
That was just an excuse to open a door in the game, feels like it was added at the very last minute to be quite honest. God damn I fucking hate this game.

>>383335314
I really liked them until I thought about how many times they repeated the same chatter going around the world. jesus christ zero-budget shit like rune factory has more variation in dialogue than this thing

>>383332743
I hear ya.
At first these threads were annoying since they were being marketed too much but man...
Now they're just depressing that one person wasted 4+ years of their life defending a substandard rpg that no one hardly talks about except for these shit posting threads.

Pure garbage

>>383312616
>most mods end up catering to fujofags/barafags and not ones that make the game better

>>383335282
Not really deep. It was resolved in about two hours in his DLC episode. Apparently he is a clone of Verstael and was stolen away as a baby.
Hopefully someone who actually played Episode Prompto can verify all that happened. I only watched 15 minutes worth of cutscenes just to find out what the fuck was going on.

>bffs
And why did Noctis not get completely shat on by the other residents of Hammerhead? Having their king disappear for 10 years while the world was plunged even deeper into hell was bound to cause a few grudges. World of Ruin would have been the perfect opportunity to show the consequences of his absence and make Noctis harbor some shame for it. Even Evangelion 3.0 was able to do this.

>>383336636
>Apparently he is a clone of Verstael and was stolen away as a baby
I bet the party's response was "haha ok bro anyway lets ride" *fistbump*

>>383335282
That shit was so rushed and felt so cheap. They went for the cheapest pop possible just for the FF6 World of Ruin throwback while somehow accomplishing so much less than FF6's did.

It skips 10 years and you meet someone immediately after experiencing little to no hardship. They drive you straight to your party, who immediately rejoin you the same as ever, and then immediately warp you to the final section of the game, where your party members literally contribute NOTHING to the point of being handwaved out of the final boss battle.

Like jesus fucking christ. Why not explore the new world? Why not actually have to individually see what each person was doing to recruit them to your cause, rallying people to a growing hope against the apocalypse they're living through? Why didn't Noctis (now that he's a king of lucis) imbue his friends with magic, like how Regis did with the Kingsglaive, giving them an excuse to actually help Noctis for real and give you a sense of progression? Why was it fucking 1 hour long?

Fuck.

>>383336978
>Why not explore the new world?
Because Talcott picks you up.

>>383336636
Prompto being a Magitek Knight super clone baby is some of the dumbest shit, because he was just some fatass kid in Insomnia in Brotherhood, which they reference in the game too.

>>383302337
>>Never Challenges You: Most people who bought the game finished it according to PSN Trophies, more than other RPGs. Never happened with any of the other Final Fantasy games.
Yeah, I platinumed Type-0 and XV quite easily. Still wouldn't be able to do that with X or XII.

>>383337172
it is terrible design to have a super soldier who isn't actually any stronger than a normal human and who can still get fat and shit

imagine post-hojo cloud strife if he had to watch his diet, couldn't lift the buster sword, and had pudge from his shameful vincent valentine space AIDS phase. ubermensch indeed

>>383318070
>>383318224

same

>>383336978
>It skips 10 years and you meet someone immediately after experiencing little to no hardship. They drive you straight to your party, who immediately rejoin you the same as ever, and then immediately warp you to the final section of the game, where your party members literally contribute NOTHING to the point of being handwaved out of the final boss battle.
Ya know, If I hadn't played through this mess and know all of that to be true I would've assumed you were exaggerating. Unbelievable how much they managed to fuck up.

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>smashed the disc
>bit chunks out of my EA Sports controller
>bashed my head against the cabinet
>attempted hanging
Fucking computer just kept coming back and making me turn the ball over and go on cold streaks and making my teammates act retarded. Fuck this game

The most batshit insane retarded thing in the FFXV world is still Titos/Glauca and how he's dealt with in the game.

This random fucking street urchin somehow became the simultaneous leader of the Kingsglaive as well as having a double life as the military supreme commander of Niflheim, with somehow no one noticing he manages to live this double life, and no questions on how this guy is THAT FUCKING CAPABLE that he can rise to be the unquestionable leader of two different kingdom's militaries as a pissant commoner with no political ties or leverage whatsoever.

And he is so strong, he kills King Regis in single combat like it's nothing. And then dies to Nyx, and no one ever mentions him again. Noctis never confronts the man who personally killed his father, killed Lunafreya's parents, and led the most elite soldiers of Insomnia all the while, and never even cares about this detail or questions it.

Also Glauca's motivation to hate Regis is because he was cowering behind his wall. That's his motivation for joining the empire and acting against Insomnia. But Glauca is the one who led the fucking charge against Regis when he was visiting Tenebrae, which is the exact opposite of hiding behind his wall and inspired Regis to retreat. So he hated Regis for hiding behind his wall before he actually started hiding, and was in fact personally responsible for the act that forced him to stay in Insomnia?

>>383336978
It's also kind of pathetic that Prompto, Ignis, and Gladio haven't even tried to lead their own lives while he was gone. No new hobbies, no new friends, no jobs, no qt gfs, nothing.
The main cast are "characters" only through their attachment to Noctis.

>>383337172
I actually quite liked the backstory of him simply being a fat loser before trying to get /fit/. It was humanizing. The clone shit just ruined it.

>>383338167
where'd we get the backstory for the traitor knight from kingsglaive? i was admittedly spacing out for half the movie but i don't remember them going in-depth on him being a street urchin

>>383330667
>>383330929
While I won't go as far as to say I really liked XIII (until XV I would rank it as the most disappointing mainline entry) I won't deny that the series had a really underrated and fantastic set of music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpsgk7b3R3w

This one stood out to me the most.

>>383338167
>double life
I didn't watch Kingsglaive. Fucking how.

The only thing I knew about that Glauca dude was that he killed the king. But yes, I agree that Noctis never confronting the guy was a huge mistake. Could you imagine the boss fight? It would have been great just on the context alone. What happened to him after he killed Regis though? The only way I could excuse this is if Nyx killed him or whatever.

XV is such a sanitized, safe jrpg. It's just so boring and clean, there's nothing interesting about it, outside of the waifu designs. It almost feels Disney at times with the overly eccentric dialogue and hamfisted drama. So fucking lame and immature.

>>383339195
Titus Drautos is leader of the Kingsglaive AND General Glauca. And it it makes no sense how he was able to do both.

>>383339195
>The only way I could excuse this is if Nyx killed him or whatever.
Nyx does kill him, but even then he could've just been turned into a daemon like Ravus.

>>383338391
They don't go too in detail, beyond he was from an outer settlement, all Kingsglaive are from outer settlements (Ignis says none of the Kingsglaive are from Crown City), and there's the bar scene where the group of them all complain about their shared past and it being their only opportunity to live without being street urchins.

>>383339195
Watch it and question EVERYTHING. Nothing makes sense. The Empire's plan to assault Insomnia is nonsense, the people writing the movie have literally no idea about what the purpose of the Oracle is to the FFXV world and so Lunafreya is written as a suicidal retard with no regard for the importance of her life for the rest of the world, Regis is also suicidal and Glaua is a retard too.

Like this is how Regis dies: He meets up with Nyx and Lunafreya, and in an attempt to buy them time, he makes a magic wall between him and them and confronts Glauca, who is pursuing them. Glauca kills him, straight up. Nyx and Lunafreya stay in that room, on the other side of the wall, watching the ENTIRE TIME instead of running, and Glauca stares directly at them afterwards without chasing after them.

They then leave and discover Nyx and other kingsglaive members now no longer have magic, because the King is dead. Cut to Glauca, who is now calling over radio to all empire soldiers to find and kill Lunafreya at all costs, because apparently he just now realizes "oh, I should kill her" but didn't think to try earlier. Also Regis could've just made the wall BEHIND them to slow Glauca down, because it wasn't going to last past his death anyway and now Nyx and the Kingsglaive have zero magic to try and protect Lunafrey with.

It is a fucking trainwreck.

>>383339865
Yeah, I don't know why Regis was so eager to die.

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>TFW you didn't fall for the 'XV has bad combat' meme

>>383339195
As Glauca he wears a suit made by the imperial army.

>>383341105
Didn't the use of the ring and the crystal's magic put tremendous stress on the user 24/7?

>>383302337
First half is good, second half is the worst part of any Final Fantasy. I'd rather play Mystic Quest

>>383341463
No, that was never mentioned. Just that it made them grow old.

>>383341350
wow a buncha unrelated single-sword swings cool

>>383338314
Gladio got unknown gf, Prompto had been chasing Cidey for 10 years.

>>383341350
>literally holding down x, sometimes r1

Amazing gameplay

>>383303262
>VA strike

It's like they don't realise everyone on the planet has a voice

>>383338167
>This random fucking street urchin somehow became the simultaneous leader of the Kingsglaive as well as having a double life as the military supreme commander of Niflheim

Nifflheim military is fucking joke.
>ex High Commander is double agent, who run 2 armies for 12 years
>next High Commander is ex-prince of ruined by Empire country, who is, surprise! also, double agent
>Commodore is just high-ranked mercernarie, working for $$$
>another general is 20 years old bitch boy Loqi

>>383341810
>Gladio got unknown gf

Wait, is this legit? When was this stated?

>>383342404
>Commodore is just high-ranked mercernarie, working for $$$

Don't forget how during their first encounter she completely leaves the scene and let's Noctis go, when she could've called for backup, captured the King and gotten a huge fucking paycheck.

>>383342447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usWpT0-RVYY

>>383341810
>chasing Cindy for 10 years
Holy shit. I may be a pathetic loser, but at least I'm not Prompto.

>>383342729
Ignis makes some toast? Better believe you get a short cutscene, some dialogue, a delicious looking model, and a photograph.
Haven't seen Gladio for ten years while the world effectively ended and he's got this whole other life and girlfriend? Eh we'll toss in a couple throwaway lines, it's not important.

>>383342729
How did he get a gf wearing the same cringy clothes for ten years. I fucking hate Gladio.

>>383342729
Is this something new they added later?

>>383342853
>Prompto’s cells have been remodeled again and again and he wouldn’t end up being like Versatile. Hence, his hair wouldn’t recede like Versatile’s :D Or, he could get bold completely… But that’s one less thing to worry about. We’re not sure if he could make it to Versatile’s age.

He is going die young, still sperging over dem tiddies.

>>383342976
>Gladio's dad killed in KG
>not mentioned in main game
>not even in DLC
>Gladio shows more grief after Jared's death

>>383343039
No, it's always been there.

>>383342729
Also:
>Cidney is in Hammerhead
>NEVER comes out to at least say "hi" to Noctis
>Iris, who was in love with Noctis never came to say anything to him either
>Cor never offers to help storm Insomnia

???

>>383307552
Square only gave assets and the license. The devs behind Game of War/Mobile Strike are the ones who shat this out.

>>383343352
They do reference him, but never his death:

>Gladio and Cor talk about his dad during campfires in the DLC
>Gladio and Noct talk about him on the way to the Titan
>Iris and Gladious never seem to react emotionally to his death at all

>>383329604
>three elements
>consumable items
>additional effects that don't do jack shit
Magic was absolute fucking garbage.

>>383343352
I thought it was mentioned when he and Noctis were running away from Titan?

>>383343530
Magic is only good for powerleveling. That's it.

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>>383304147
I'd rather them just add the cut content into the game.

Also I desperately need a mor concise re-edit of Kingsglaive that uses Omnis Lacrima for the Invasion scene, the final fight length is cut in half, less Libertus (or at least get that fucker a better voice actor, Jesus Christ. Same with Crowe and Drautos) and character models that actually match the game (specifically Luna, Aldercapt and Ravus.)

That's it. That's all I want.

>>383343157
>there are people on /v/ right now that don't think the others fell fighting demons after Noctis left them to defeat Ardyn

>>383343530
>Consumable magic is bad
Next you're going to tell me Drawing from VIII was bad.

>>383343352
Jared was confusing.

When he died I was like "the fuck is this guy?" Only to get answers during the car ride in the World of Ruin. 30 HOURS LATER

>>383328825
>The game is seen as a masterpiece
It's shit.

>has the most positive reviews and GOTY awards of any Final Fantasy game.
Give an exact count of every reward for every game in the series.

>Warp Strike and Link Strikes change the paradigm of action RPGs by making positioning through your surroundings
>teleporting right into an enemies face to smack them and shitty backstabs that require allies have 'changed the paradigm'
Could you possibly get any dumber.

>>383343846
But it was. And tedious as fuck to grind, too. One of MANY reasons 8 was bad.

>>383343846
It more or less is in older game, anon. You have a magic bar that must be replenished by items. That's much better than magic grenades. Also makes less sense because the Kingsglaive and Regis use proper magic.

>>383343865
I had no idea who he was when that scene happened. None at all. Yet, his death scene got more attention than Regis, Gladio's dad etc.

>>383331323
>Why couldn't they just do KH2 combat?
Tabata hates pressing buttons.

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>>383310827
This is really, truly quite abhorrently terrible. Square needs to revoke the license for this game and remove all traces of it ever happening. I don't know who green lit this, but they probably need to be shot.

Can someone wanna make a Thread on NeoGAF? Like "What do you guys think about this game?".

Square Enix shills usually skim those threads and it would be great if we could send a message instead of just small shitposting when the game announces something.

I was going to post ta thread about this, but since this seems to be about the features of the game, I feel like I can do it here. I haven't played FFXV, but I've been interested in it since it was VersusXIII. What I want to know is a majority of the stuff that I found interesting about it, like for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8
>The fast paced KH-like combat
>Ability to switch to different characters to play as
>Monster huntin'
>Mech & Tank Ridin'
>Fighting dudes on cool moving battlefields, like in Bayo2
>The dark and almost ominous backdrop the city gives you at night & seemingly ability to explore as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEKNUCjcrMY
>Fighting during a city invasion and teleporting everywhere
>Fighting dudes on sides of huge-ass buildings
>A huge monster boss battle that is that dragon

Are any of these in the actual FFXV? Al the stuff I've looked at for XV gameplay-wise seems to tell me otherwise.

>>383333921
>KH needs one or two giant summons though.
It absolutely does not.

>>383344024
>>383343846
If either of you faggots actually spent more than 5 minutes drawing in that game you're fucking retarded

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>mfw my thread will reach the top list.

>>383344101
I'm convinced he doesn't know how to design combat. If you've played Type-0, all you do is hold done one button and that's it. There's no skill.

>>383344151
There was like a week ago on there. Over 10 pages of people trashing XV. The honeymoon phase is gone. It was actually a decent thread too.

>>383302510
>No-name English Voices Actors
good. the more often this happens, the better. I don't want to fucking "recognize" my video game characters

>>383343846
>make magic completely useless and inconvenient
>make recharging it so tedious that you're better off never even bothering with it
Such a good magic system. :)

>>383344180
>Are any of these in the actual FFXV?
No, it is nothing at all like Versus was shown to be. XV kun will spew some shit about a couple of the animations being recycled in a different manner, but the final product plays nothing like KH. The hitstun and enemy tells might be the worst in the genre.

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>>383344180
>Altissia events according to Ferrari's storyboard
>there fucking human Umbra
>confrontation with Ravus. who has some powers
>Empire actually attacked Leviathan
>Verstael is here
>there is another blonde guy, who was in 2013 trailer

I don't know what they should add in Ignis DLC to surpass this.

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I like this thread. Nice to see some sensible people and constructive criticsim.

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>>383310827
This sums up my whole feelings about this video

>>383344024
>he didn't refine items
Complaining about drawing magic is such a good retard filter for VIII haters.

>>383344250
KH summons are useful, aren't a press to win button and aren't just one cutscene either:

>Stitch replenishes MP, among other things
>Genie is fun to use
You get the picture.

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If what I heard from my buddy on Skype was right then Square Enix will start removing Final Fantasy Versus XIII on YouTube after Gamecome next month.

No, it is a good thing. Brace for maximum butt-hurt impact.

>>383344554
Nyx's design is so good.

>>383310827
Is it making SE bank?

>>383344180
>The fast paced KH-like combat
Nope, holdX2win
>Ability to switch to different characters to play as
Nope
>Monster huntin'
Eh kinda, it's no different than normal fights though, unless it's a scripted part like the behemoth hunt
>Mech & Tank Ridin'
Nope
>Fighting dudes on cool moving battlefields, like in Bayo2
QTEs
>The dark and almost ominous backdrop the city gives you at night & seemingly ability to explore as well
Hahaha no, you don't get to explore the city at all, it's mostly open roads
>Fighting during a city invasion and teleporting everywhere
Sorta? It's not as exciting as you'd think though, you just hold X
>Fighting dudes on sides of huge-ass buildings
Again sorta. It's all just flashy shit happening while you hold X and once in a while press R1
>A huge monster boss battle that is that dragon
The dragon is Leviathan and it's scripted as shit.

fwiw it's very pretty and watching the fights is pretty fun, but it's all fluff.

>>383302337
>and half of them are Versus XIII music
Not that I don't understand your point but I fail to see how this is a legitimate complaint seeing as how the game stated off its life as versus XIII so it's still all original music. Just because a game stated off as one title but eventually developed into a different title doesn't suddenly invalidate all of the assets as being unoriginal.

>>383344549
The old storyboard doesn't look any different from the current FFXV desu. Except human Umbra and several things will probably be shown on-screen so other characters will be more developed.

>>383344180
Yes to monster-hunting and a dragon boss battle (assuming you mean Leviathan), but dude, the Leviathan fight was one of, if not the worst boss battle in the history of this series.

There are only two instances of fighting on moving platforms: the top of a moving train, and warping back and forth from the openings of flying enemy airships.
Here's footage of both. Make of them what you will.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WrKAyHCQjx0

>>383344401
Still, we need another Thread that is basically Review 2.0. People are not aware that the fans think this game is shit.

It will get more views. Adding a 1-10 score poll with no memes will surely make headlines that this game is not very good.

>>383344753
>implying that will do anything

People will just reupload it like they have with every removed video ever. I suppose it would come of as kind of cunty on their part, but maybe the outcry will make Square realize how much people cared about Versus and how people have quickly forgotten about XV.

>>383343428
>The devs behind Game of War/Mobile Strike are the ones who shat this out.
but the fact that square decided that it was a good idea to go through with this was bad enough.

>>383344753
>Top ten Angry Joe controversy.

I heard that the Gladio gf thing was something that NA added and it was more vague in other languages. Can anyone confirm? I just can't stand the thought of that asshole having a good.

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>>383344902
>if not the worst boss battle in the history of this series.
It definitely is by virtue of being both long and incredibly tedious which is never a good combination, the fact that they redid that same setup for the final boss is when I realized that I wasted $60.

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>>383344554
I'm glad SE is still working on it but I really want a "2.0" or "complete" version of XV, really the combat needs improvement and I don't know why Tabata made it "hold O to win" because of his hands when people his age aren't even the target demographic. Make that an option for easy mode, sure, but properly telegraphed enemy movements with movement cancelling and attacks that actually have weight behind them would improve both the feeling and the challenge of XV a million fold.

(Also a Kingsglaive expansion for XV that translates the movie to the game, damn I need that.)

I'll wait until 2019 if I need to, damn it.

>>383344401
>10 pages
Do you have a link? Neofags not sucking Sony's cock for once is too hard for me to believe. pls deliver

>>383345152
I'm kind of sick of XV and would like it to go away and make room for the next big thing... please.

>>383345196
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1399944

>>383345196
>Neofags not sucking Sony's cock for once is too hard for me to believe.
I think you misunderstand how abysmal XV is anon.

>>383344691
>KH summons are useful, aren't a press to win button and aren't just one cutscene either
I completely agree, that's why we don't need big cinematic shit.

>>383345196
It was also on Xbone so there's no ownership bias

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>>383345312
There's so much potential left, the skeleton of what makes up XV is still quite good, and the team obviously still cares about the game. As long as I have a chance of getting the best XV that I can get, I'll wait.