ITT: Characters that did nothing wrong

In time, you will know the extent of his failings

HOW QUICKLY THE TIDE TURNS

>see these threads
>a lot of retards telling stress healing is important
>try the stress heal the houndmaster has since it's a recommended skill
>has a CHANCE to heal 4 stress point out of fucking 200
most retarded skill ever

>>383303306
Has a chance on every character, just level it so it heals more than 3 and it's the most effective stress heal in the game

>>383301248
What he did wrong was not shooting himself way before he did

>>383303306
You sound like you're bad at killing stress inducing enemies then. You should be using a shuffler/back line stun/4th rank damage dealer or any combination therein to clear those guys first. The houndmaster has the best stress heal for the whole party, use it 2-3 rounds after leaving one last enemy usually a high prot low damage enemy so you get cleared up.

>>383301248
Should've just stuck with the orgies desu

The moment you start awakening ancient evils just out of pure boredom is the moment you should start thinking about your life choices.

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Dedede is innocent.

>>383303306
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

>>383304008
what's exactly the trigger for stress/reinforcements if you stall? Sometimes I'm not even stalling (moved around, no valid actions) and I get it

>>383304413
get assfucked

>>383304454
When there is one enemy left, you have 2 rounds to kill it before your heroes get stressed. The round after if you still fail to kill it, reinforcements come.

What is the point of the Houndmaster? I don't get it is he an off tank? A support? A ranged dps? He's bad at all of these, or am I being retarded?

>>383301248
Isn't the point of Ancestor doing everything wrong ?

>>383304454
>>383304874
A 2 slot enemy is considered as two enemies too.

>>383301248
>ruin your fief
>awaken ancient evil
>nothing wrong
ok

>>383306839
Good on a mark team/stress healer. If you go up against something like the Prophet you can have an Occultist mark and weaken him, one or two houndmasters tear up the back line with rush and biscuits. Could even use Bounty hunter in front, hound in second, occultist in third and arbalest/musketeer in 4th for a decent mark party.

Hound is just pretty versatile from ranks 2-4, can work in 1. Hits pretty much any rank from any rank and his camping skills are really good. Add onto that his stress heal and he can let you flex picks for your dungeon comp into whatever you want. He's a little underwhelming at lower resolve but he starts getting pretty good at 3-6.

>>383303597
>every character
Damn, and here I was thinking Cry Havoc sucked. Time to reroll a houndmaster.

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>>383301248
>invited Necromancer to learn necromancy and upon learning it killed all of them in their sleeps and revived them so that dead can revive dead
>a madman knew how he was going to fuck up everything thus after trying to kill him thousand times and failing, he invited him to his manor and showed him what's underneath it. Upon seeing it he pulled his own eyes out
>Summoned demons and otherwordly beings from other planes and used pigs as host bodies for the said creatures. He then moved the abominations to warrens
>the same warrens also acted as a dump for the failed summon attemps and it was filled with tons of live sinew and organs
>offered the qt grill who had a crush on him to creatures of deep after the qt noticed him dealing with the creatures for treasure
>cursed the anchor of the seaman who demanded a raise after doing his dirty work, drowning them forever in the bottom of sea
>invited an alchemist to work together with but when she went batshit insane, he sent her to the Weald and left her alone in her experiments. She fucked up the entire weald and started eating people
>When townsfolk started to rebel he hired cutthroats to deal with the townfolk, and they brought a cannon that fucked up anything on it's way
Yeah truly didn't do anything wrong. Let us not forget what he did in the Courtyard

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Don't agree with couple of them but most of them dindu nuffin

>>383307420

Clapperclaws and Peligic Guardians also do not call reinforcements.

>>383307827
Also adding onto that he has one of the highest rates of stun proc. I think with a trinket it is around 200%. Pretty much enough to get 2-3 stuns off most mobs. You would have to keep him in position 2 I think. Plus his mark is a prot debuff and a damage increase so it's particularly good for beefy enemies.

>>383306839
A solid position 3 or 2. When you get to Veteran and Champion Weald, most of the enemies hit really hard your first two positions and a houndmaster guard your first position and get to 100 dodge easily with the right items, making your front row almost invincible. He has an amazing stun ability, can deal a lot of damage to beast enemies which are plenty in Warrens, his Mark talent has the highest -PROT in the game.

His utility in unmatched

>>383308298
Manny Pardo was never wrong.

>>383308298
None of them dindu nuffin, some if them didn't finish the jib though

Sebastian LeCroix, all he wanted was the sarcophagus. He was legit gonna let you be his right hand bro at the end if you helped him.

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>>383309935
he opened it

>>383308284
>I told my noble friends to drink vampire's blood
and they did, those absolute madmen!
Ancestor is a motherfucker

>>383306839
He is straight up versatile. There are some classes that have versatile roles for different reasons.

He has a really good single target stun, he can guard for a character while buffing his dodge so he won't get hit, has a good self heal, has a good single target attack that deals more damage against beasts and marked, can self mark, and can do a party wide stress heal. He is useful in all ranks.

>>383308284
He didn't even dump the Hag for going crazy, he dumped her for getting fat and ugly. Then she decided to camp in the woods outside his house like the crazy ex girlfriend that she is.

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>>383310319
Didn't he only reveal the source after they had a few bottles? Or did I misunderstand the ending cutscene?

Also fuck the Courtyard. I went there on my first possible opportunity in a new run and got pounded into the dirt.

>>383301248
Anyone have the picture with the ideal set ups for the classes and shit?

>>383310319
I don't think he told them.
I think he just said that it was some dank ass wine.

He was very rich and very bored.

>>383310429
Ancestor, the pussi slayer
I really hope the second DLC centers around medicine, since there's a sanitarium in town and diseases seem like an underexplored mechanic (none of that blood craving shit please, I'm tired of trying to farm blood vials for starving idiots)

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>>383310429
>As time wore on, her wild policy of self-experimentation grew intolerable. She quaffed all manner of strange fungi, herbs, and concoctions, intent on gaining some insight into the horror we both knew to be growing beneath us. The change in her was appalling, and no longer able to stomach it, I sent her to live in the weald, where her wildness would be welcomed.
>>383310650
I don't but feel free to ask me

>>383310625
See this post >>383310715

>>383303306
Then use a Jester.

>>383310625
>>383310715
What a fucking scum shit-eater. Honestly, DD is a perfect game lore-wise just because you could add in scummy shit Ancestor did in different places around the Hamlet forever

>>383310779
I was actually just thinking about setting up a party exactly like the one in that picture except with maybe flagman in the first position. Going into the weald for the first time and wanted to refresh what was good.

>>383311032
Ayy man, he told you from the beginning, that you have no clue how bad he fucked up.
But in time...you will know.

This game is worth getting into for the narration and art style alone.

https://youtu.be/8yyAgk9der4

>>383310767
An insane asylum or an arctic expedition both seem like they'd make for good possible expansion settings. I'm really hoping it isn't simply a desert tomb. That seems too obvious.

>>383311472
Ayy, but he starts the story as a typical Lovecraftian character, it really seems unintentional. Notice how every boss story basically starts with him being in a bad position or not overly fucked up, and the truth only gets revealed by the end of the second paragraph? This game tried to subtly twist the perception of the viewer, but the narrator was so memetic that everyone kinda learned he was an awful piece of shit way too early.

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>>383311446
If you're going for Weald then you need a hero who can guard, so either a Man-at-Arms or a Houndmaster. My typical Weald party is;
Vestal/Jester/MaA/Hellion
You need to watch out for Giants in Weald who can crit you for up to 60 damage, and with MaA or Houndmaster you guard your Hellion to mitigate Treebranch Smackdowns. I bring Hellion since she can attack the position 4 and it's especially important when you have Hateful Viragos, one of her strong suits is her ability to be able to each row.
Jester buff is also important when facing giant, extra speed guarantees you to play before the giant so you don't get hit before you were able to use guard. And his Bleed attacks are all good for the fungal enemies you'll face in Weald.
Vestal is just Vestal,

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>>383311915
To be fair, at some point it stops being about how awful he was, and more as to say that everything he did for the sake of uncovering the Eldritch beneath him paled in comparison to what actually saw. Its only when he sees how terrifying his life work had led him that he finally repents and begs you to help
BUT IT WAS ALL A RUSE

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Remember Anon, whenever you're feeling shit at the game, or the game gives you some shit RNG, at least you bothered to keep a challenge and didn't end up like pic related

>>383311819
Arctic sounds incredible actually
>opens after you defeat the ship at least twice, the ship actually takes you to the location
>because it's a ghost ship your characters start stressed out as fuck
>it's never dark until the last mission is set in POLAR NIGHT but your characters are constantly freezing (except fucking vampires, so it might be beneficial to bring them on board with a lot of blood)
>camping becomes more prominent because torches go out fast, so you need to bring more food and ration it accordingly
>An undead half-corrupted polar bear is a mini-boss
>one of the bosses is a super zombified walrus
>ancestor went there to unearth the typical lovecraftian arctic civilization and use its inventions
>he fucked up bad because the civilization was aylium and they wanted nothing to do with DD and its shit
>another boss is a giant writhing Shoggoth with a form-changing gimmick
>the final boss is a Nyarlatothep-type god of the ayliums

My dad did nothing wrong he didn't mean to move to the south and be a gay

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>>383311785
>pic related
>>383311446
>>383312272
cont'd, now if you're going after Brigand Pounder in Weald then i'd suggest you to bring;
Vestal/Grave Robber/Houndmaster/Leper

You'll need heroes who can shutdown Brigand Fuser, lest you get blown the fuck out by the cannon. Grave Robber with trinkets that increases her damage can easily one-shot him and if not, houndmaster can always help her to finish him off. Houndmaster is required because you'll most likely face few giants/fungal squads and his guard will come in handy and unlike MaA he can hit all 4 positions. Leper can use Hew to deal damage both the brigand the cannon spawns and the cannon itself, Vestal is there for usual sustain and can use Judgment on Fuser if GraveRobber/Houndmaster somehow couldn't kill him.

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>>383312805
>91.5% crit

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>>383310650
This one?

>>383312805
What if I turn off all the "fuck you" modifiers like corpses and stuff?

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>>383312805
lol can't beat the croc even with that line up.

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>>383303306
>tfw can't use Houndmaster at all since hate seeing dogs getting hurt
The way he shields the poor pupper always makes my heart flutter, I just can't use them. Let proper suicidal people kill themselves, and let the man and his dog find some better work.

>>383313437
How are corpses fuck you modifiers? Lot of heroes have good skills to deal with them namely leper purger and occultist (pull?) Also if you kill enemy with a dot he leaves no corpse.

how do traits and trinkets that depend on light level work in the dlc place?

>>383314171
The courtyard is considered to be at 75% light for trinkets and quirks and the like.

>>383313856
But if they don't delve the estate he can't feed his companion. They'll starve anon.

>>383314309
neat. I can't be doing without my silly dodge cloak

>>383312805
>using scorpiovaeden class mods

absolutely disgusting

>>383314405
He can become a hunter, or find any other work. And I'd rather they starve than face the horrors.

>its another episode of anon favors animals over human life

>>383313937
I only call them that because they have the potential of hindering me.

>>383314885
>valuing human life when people like Ancestor exist

>>383314885
I just don't think a dumb animal who is just following his masters orders deserves to die a crude death.

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>>383301248
pic related
>>383313203
I hope the anon who made this updates it soon

the sodden crew seem like cool guys. would play vidya with

>>383315161
In due time you will learn how prodigious and illustrious an individual Ancestor was. Before that time approaches, however, you are better off not uttering a single foolish word against him.

>>383310767
>I'm tired of farming blood vials
Shit is this Darkest Dungeon or fucking Bloodborne?

>>383315571
New update adds Vampire enemies that can turn your dudes into Vampires
if you don't give them Blood they eventually die

>>383315671
I know, I was trying to make a joke or something.

Is there a line "In silver and swelter" in the DLC? I could swear I heard it in one of the trailers and it sounds like something Ancestor would say, but I might have just imagined?

>>383312272
Drop the Vestal and bring and Occultist. Extra damage against eldritch, can hit ranks 1, 2, and 3 with sacrificial stab, can hit the back two with abyssal artillery, and his weakening curse takes a hefty amount of the damage out of tree branch smack down.

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>>383314885
>>383315161
>>383315209
I dont know how you guys feel about empathy, suffering, pain and other sad emotions, but years of playing videogames made me see game characters as tools. When i play game, i see challenges, principles and struggles to overcome.

So when i saw pic related on /v/, i picked it up to see muh controversy. It did exactly nothing to me. It was just another fps shooter with weird ending with guy in mirror pointing gun at you.

However i am older now, so when i watch movies or read books, i feel really bad when i see characters in bad situations and i root for them to survive (which i didnt when was dumb teen).

Am i weird? I really dont see heroes in DD as people who suffer. Just as a pawns i use to get loot.

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>>383315749

I've put 50+ hours into this thing and restarted a bunch of times and never got past Swine Prince

Does the DLC add more generic narrator lines? I'd buy it just for that.

>>383315980
Yeah it adds lines for buffs, debuffs, heals, and so on.

>>383315980
Yes, not much, but yes.

>restarted
If you feel like restarting, just kick all heroes from roster. That way you dont lose so much time.

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>>383303306
Use the Jester and Crusader to heal stress during battles and the HM to heal stress during camping.

>>383303306
>out of 200
If you have 4 guys at 200 stress then you fucked up.

>>383308298
I think the chart should have the other Papa Nier. That one was actively keeping humanity intact.

>finale

is it me or is the narrator sounding off in the crimson blood missions at times?

Wait, stress heals itself over time if you simply bench the fuckers back in town?!

>>383316772
With a voice like that I believe he needs to hold his breath, so in certain sentences when there's a pause, he sounds off.

>>383317143
yes but it's slow and doesn't fix afflictions

>>383311819
I though of another good one: gypsy/vodoo carnival shit

How to make money? Having to cure at least one affliction per week is destroying my wallet.

>>383317452
Get 4 antiquarians
Go to a long apprentice mission
Make summon trinkets
leave mission

Congrats you now have 100k

>>383317452
sell trinkets?
build bank

>>383317452
Farm rooms with 0 light after you complete a quest

>>383315835
When you're facing brigands, you'll actually need a hero that can group heal. I use Occultist more than Vestal in general but for that specific run i always prefer a Vestal for the reliability. I already have guard to deal with the branch so the weakening curse isn't required

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>>383313437
fresh from /dadg/

>>383308298
Where the fuck is Handsome Jack? Literally did nothing

The gives me so many questions
1.So the whole thing was for nothing?
2. Was there another expedition into the tomb prior to this game?
3. What the hell is the "Light" is it another old one or what?
4.Where do you go after sacrificing someone? Do they actually die or become one with the entity?
5. Is it ever explained from the game mechanic why going into the darkest dungeon and coming out alive makes them refuse to enter again? (aside from "mechanics")

>>383316792
This was a nice story. Domika was cute

>>383317452
I finished game before dlc was or stignian was out in 94 weeks while completely ignoring afflictions.

Be like a jew and simply dont buy unnecessary things.
>you dont even need to upgrade weapons for healsluts

>>383317648
Building bank imho breaks the mechanics of the game. It should be
+N% income from last run

>>383317452
Bring proper items to interact with curios. At the start of the dungeon you don't have to interact with everything, come back when your supplies are a bit more exhausted so you can carry more, snuff out your torch since both apprentice and veteran are manageable in the dark, bring someone along that can stress heal to prevent getting high stress.

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>>383318579
The cutest

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>>383318875
>>you dont even need to upgrade weapons for healsluts
That seems rather obvious now that I think about it.

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>>383319446
>>383319035
>you dont even need to upgrade weapons for healsluts
enjoy low speed and not being able to heal your heroes due to low speed and risk death's door on clutch enemy crits

>>383312805
I just fought the croc for the first time. Holy fuck fuck that thing. He killed my Occultist. Almost killed by Arbelist as well but she tanked 3 hits at deaths door like a champ and then rallied when her stress bar filled out.

>>383318036
Holy shit this. Is he redeemed in Tales from the Borderlands? I heard its pretty good so I'm considering picking it up

>>383319728
this, it also increases your crit chance and you're going to want as many crit heals as you can get

>>383313203
Yep, thanks anon.

>Arbalest

someone explain why I would ever do this

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>>383319921
heal crits are separate from your crit-chance. Single target heals have 12% chance, while multi target heals have 5%

>>383320236
oh shit I didn't know that
thanks anon

>>383320236
>heal crits are separate from your crit-chance.
That's a game changing claim. You better have some source to back it up.

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>>383301248

>>383315925
I often get a bit emotional these days when I see shit like regular soldier dudes going up against shit they know they have no right to be fighting which didnt happen when I was younger. I put it down to kids being shits.

>>383318464
1.It's a laundering scheme devised by antediluvian jews. Use a sockpuppet ((ancestor)) to make a mess, than bait his successor into sorting shit out to forward your own plans. I bet you everything the next guy you're baiting into The Hamlet will try to unearth all the bad shit again to use its powers against itself.
2.There were countless expeditions by countless generations of madmen.
3.Doesn't seem so. Maybe it will be explained in a future DLC. Consider the following: in Lovecraftian stories intense light is the same shit as darkness i.e. really really bad stuff housing invisible indescribable horrors. Azatoth, the heart of the Universe, is surrounded by maddening bright light.
4.Blood of all sacrifices flows to the heart due to how close The Hamlet is to it on the Z-axis. Notice how most of Ancestor's experiments create a stable system of creation/destruction, like dead reviving dead. More sacrifices, more blood, more lifeforce for the Heart.
5.I'd imagine going into the house of your worst nightmares come true, with literal flesh hallways and Shoggoth monsters, is going to break you once and for all. It would be infuriating from the mechanic standpoint but I'd love it if all the heroes who came alive from DD would go back to level 0 immediately after, simply to show how fucked up they got.

>>383319728
>changing speed from 4 to 6 for a lot of gold
Nah.
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Weapons

If i will upgrade someones weapon, it will be the main damage dealer. If i upgrade armor, i choose damage dealer again. Heal slut is second. Utility characters can die, who cares.

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>>383319994
do you have any idea how hard she hits ?
>give arbalist musket ball and fuse
>34% crit chance vs marked targets on top of %100 damage bonus
>>383320364
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Heroes
check Critical Chance section

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>>383320430
Childhood is rooting for the Space Marines.
Adulthood is rooting for the Imperial Guard.
Eternal NEETdom is rooting for Chaos.

>>383320567
typically not very hard. I'd rather just have a graverobber or something

>>383320567
>>http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Heroes
>check Critical Chance section
Thanks. But such unintuitive shit really pisses me off. Are players expected to read the wiki before playing the game? I know many do but if the fucking devs expect us to do it and obscure vital gameplay mechanics with that expectation as justification then it's some major bullshit.

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>>383320567
More importantly, can anybody explain abomination? When leper is superior in every way?

>>383320753
>grave robber is the only character who can get one shotted to death door from full health at any difficulty
Still her scouting trinket is god tier.

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>>383313664
croc ez killing team

>>383319728
I didn't say anything about character speed. Though yes you want everyone to be as fast as you can make them dunk the enemies asap on turn 1.

>>383311819

How could you possibly explain a desert being on the estate lands?

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>>383301248

>>383321009
Black magic.

>>383319994
Hits hard as hell on marked targets, does good damage on unmarked. Battle field bandage is a really good heal/support heal skill that isn't a Vestal or Occultist heal.
>>383320905
> can anybody explain abomination? When leper is superior in every way?
Abomination can actually hit enemies.

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>>383301248
>hey guys i wanna bring peace and civilization to pandora
>no

>Graverobber
>getting hit

>not just dodging everything and crit noscoping all day

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>>383320526
that 1 speed difference fucked me so much throughout this game, i'm not ever going to risk anything.
>>383320753
Grave Robber can fit in shuffle parties with no markers, and doesn't hit as hard as arbalist. She makes up for that with her high-dodge and scout chance/trap disable. They're very different heroes and belong to very different team compositions.
>>383320937
>apprentice croc
>hard
>>383320905
I play abomination as a support, not a frontliner. His stuns are pretty good and being able to hit first three rows are amazing. Absolution is a great skill and when shit hits the fan, he can unleash hell.

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>>383301248

>leper
>rank 3
>double blight
>stun attack with damage
>move attack
>accuracy

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>>383320905
Leper can't do anything from rows 3-4, has no way to advance himself, cannot hit row 3 and has accuracy problems. He also doesn't have a stun or blight, and his heal and stress heal are two different abilities.

If you think the two classes are even remotely similar other than having a row 1-2 cleave you are a fucking moron.

>>383321009
In a twist, the desert was not there at first. The Ancestor comissioned a sarcophagus to be delivered to his mansion. Deliverers got greedy and opened it on the way to check for valuable gems. They became the first servants of the eternal Black Pharaon. As time went by, more and more people from nearby towns became zombies, grinding old bones into sand-like dust and carving mountain rocks into perfect blocks, until, one day, a pyramid rose in the middle of a white desert.

>>383321148
>Anthony Burch is such a goddamn fucking awful writer that he makes the fucking villain the most reasonable person
>Gets even worse in Pre-Sequel where Lilith fucks him up for no reason

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>>383308298
>Ghost

I miss that hambone

>>383321264
yeah arbalest belongs in a comp that gets cucked hardcore by move/shuffle, gr belongs in a good comp

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>>383321487
here's your (you)

>>383321487
Blind Fire can be used anywhere.

>>383320567
Not very hard without mark, which takes a turn to set up. She also can't hit row 1 and has no utility outside of a mediocre heal. She's good in mark parties but pretty terrible outside of that

>People shit on the leper
>When he is one of the only characters that can do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGsTZtH8308

>>383319994

She is essentially the best boss killer in the game.

>>383321749
>She also can't hit row 1
What is blind fire? Also that heal is very useful, especially if a character was reeling after a crit to stack a higher heal right after.

>>383317452
Stop curing afflications? With the exception of greedy and klepto I can't think of any that can't be played around. You remind of my friend who complained about never having enough money and would then fully level up every ability on every hero he had.

>>383321748
...for -10% damage and almost no crit on a random target. Amazing

>>383321853
>You remind of my friend who complained about never having enough money and would then fully level up every ability on every hero he had.
Guilty as charged.

>>383321849
>What is blind fire?
Shit damage and random target

>>383321429
>literally the only two "evil" things jack does in the second game are beat the shit out of a seemingly innocent lilith and take sadistic pleasure in killing a group of prisoners offscreen
>learn in the presequel that lilith literally *teleports behind u* and punches him in the face with siren power for literally no reason and that the group of prisoners had been trying to fuck him over and kill his men

I know Burch can't write but holy shit Burch cannot write. If you want your villain to be hated and don't want the players siding with him then try not making everything he does justified or reasonable compared to your lolwackyrandom rainbow diversity squad of protagonists.

>>383321849
>What is blind fire
Bad

>>383321968
And it doesn't make her useless if shuffled, and it buffs her speed. The front targets usually aren't threatening unlike the rear ones though so it would be mostly used on the last guy rather than the big threat.

>>383321968

It does -10% damage, anon.

>>383322059
Anthony Burch is the true villain of Borderlands. Literally ruined the sequels with his shittastic writing.

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let's see them

>>383322330
>The front targets usually aren't threatening
How's that radiant playthrough going bro

>>383322536
How are those heart attacks going bro?

>>383322393
with almost no crit mod on a low damage weapon with below average accuracy. and you can't even punch through prot since she has the shitty -dodge mark instead of the -prot one

>>383321009
Probably the same way they would have an arctic expedition. I only brought it up because of how common desert tombs are to these types of settings.

>>383322763
It is just better to use an Occultist for the marking rather than any of the mark attackers so you don't lose their turn.

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>>383322458
Picked it up tuesday.

>>383304475
How many times we have to go over this? Adachi was a social retard who considered everything he fucked up being everyone's else fault and he used his powers for wrong reasons. Akechi did the same, only difference is he actually had ultimate goal in this other then for the lulz. Not to say they both got worked out by group of kids and their stupid dog. Or in these cases, bear and cat who actually were Shadows. Akechi at least had a moment when he actually tried to atone for former fuck ups.

>>383312882
How do you propose you get to the area? Doing the boss battle every time sounds incredibly tedious.

>>383322330
Front targets are extremely threatening, what the fuck are you talking about? They almost always deal more damage than the backline, and many of them have high PROT as well which the arbalest cannot deal with

>>383322746
He says while using one of the slowest characters in the game that needs to spend a turn either marking or using blind fire to actually be useful

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>>383322917
Or you could just use the Occultist to attack/stun/pull on his turn instead of setting up another, slower party member for basically the same damage anyways.

>>383319826
Not really, he is kind of an evil ghost possessing Rhys. He helps out to the point where he wants to take Hyperion back and then he tries killing our party because he was playing them all along.

>>383323028
Getting an affliction is much more detrimental than getting crit with a tree branch which you could have just stunned or damage debuffed for. What are speed trinkets and quirks? Can even get a Crusader to move rapidly with those.

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>>383323028
>using arbalist's mark
stop embarrassing yourself

>>383322994
Maybe after defeating the ship twice, you end up going there for a short bonus expedition. After defeating it three times you learn to summon it from the depths of the sea and use it. Would strengthen the theme of you slowly becoming as fucked up as the ancestor was.

>>383320905
GR has more health than the Jester, Occultist, and Auntie Jew.

>>383323179
Then there is no point in mentioning the marks since you are mentioning the character self marking before attacking which is inefficient no matter the class.

>>383323278
>if you don't use an arbalest you will be afflcited and heart attack every single dungeon
really intriguing fallacy

>>383323415
Misconstruing words is much more of one. Nowhere did I say you have to use an Arbalest but that an Arbalest is more than a viable class to utilize.

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>>383309484
all detective Manuel "Manny" Pardo did was putting great effort into finding and apprehending the insidious Miami Mutilator, a dastardly psychopath that threatened all of Miami with his murderous ways.

now, who really did wrong here was the press who focused little attention on either individuals, maintaining public ignorance not only on the thankless work of the dashing detective Manny Pardo, but the violent ways of the Miami Mutilator, [a completely seperate person, mind you] as well.

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>use hellion
>does average to weak damage, AND THEN actively gimps herself by cutting her damage down
remind me why people think she's good again

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>>383301248

>>383323764
No way, negro. Brothers are literally /r9k/ given all the power in the world

>>383323738
>can attack ALL 4 positions
>relatively fast
>Iron Swan
>reliable stun
I don't even use breakthrough or bleed out

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Why the heck do the dungeons get harder automatically? I want to go through this game very slowly at my own pace and choose when I go to the harder dungeons.

>>383323278
oh yea arbalests are really good, you just have to build an entire party supporting one and stack speed trinkets and quirks so that you can actually kill something before it gets a turn, then hope for a crit so you can one-shot whatever you just marked all while having no stuns, blights or bleeds

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The very definition of "did nothing wrong"

>>383323738
>grab hellion because shes cute
>start a level 4 dungeon
>underprepared but still pushing
>get to final fight everyone hits death's door multiple times
>hellion goes virtuous and crits for 39
I'll never go anywhere without her.

>>383323917
The brothers are simply protecting the void because they don't want to fall into absolute death.

>>383324245
The brothers represent painful, awful mediocrity, forever content to bring others down to their level. Certainly, this is not the right kind of thing to do.

Flagman is my nigger and almost single handedly got me through the first courtyard mission. Pitty he needs blood now.

>>383301248
Is the PS4 version worth a shit?

>>383323278
Not sure how dying is somehow better than getting afflicted, not to mention champion giants have 95 stun resist and 85 debuff resist. Swinetaurs are even worse, as are esquires, skivers, slashers, choppers, collected highwaymen, raiders, some bosses (croc) and pretty much every enemy in the cove. Not being able to hit them reliably or do good damage without setup hurts and will get you killed on styg, especially if you're playing torchless.

arbs aren't unusable but they're probably the worst class in the game if you don't count antiquarians

>>383324000
it spawns them in a combination suited to your roster's level spread. Once your guys start leveling up it will spawn higher level dungeons.

>>383324802
Needs to resupply somehow after all that self-flagellation.

>>383324802

Even when not infected, giving him blood is a great idea

how do you guys use flagellant? I always take the rank 1-3 damage + bleed attack, and the rank 3+4 bleed attack, but what other moves?

>>383323738
Only two characters in the game can stun two ranks at once. Hellion is one of them which automatically makes them top tier.

>>383325420
>the rank 3+4 bleed attack
That is literally the worst ability in the game. Take redeem and suffer you retard

>>383325420
I took him with the two moves that only work under 50% health. That fucker tanked croc attacks like a champ.

>>383325594
is it? it seems to just be a bleed version of plague grenade

thanks for being helpful though friend

Can the flagellant have the +10% death resist quirk? Having 97% death resist sound op

>>383325709
plague grenade does more damage upfront due to her weapon, and also does significantly more (50%) blight damage. blight on the backrow is also more useful than bleed on the backrow, and flag can hit row 3 anyways

>>383325803
it has a cap

>>383325709

It just very weak, Better to build him with Punish, Exsanguinate, Redeem and Suffer.

Give him a book of rage or hp with +debuff or + bleed trinkets

>>383325803

You cant, the max ammount is 87%

And to be honest even with suck high deathblow resist is risky to play arround in Death's door

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>>383326358
>mfw my 87% death's door resist flagellant starting at half health lost 1v1 against wilbur

>>383326490
That will do, pig, that will do

>>383326490
It has been said before, but Wilbur surely killed more heroes than any other mob in the game

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>>383326490
Wilbur is best pige, flaggelant ain't shit

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>>383320905
Anybody can go from full HP to death's door if you get thumped by the giants.

>>383301248
Crusader's holy lance is the most stupid shit ever.

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>>383327310
>tfw find 3 puzzling trapezohedrons in a secret room and Reynauld doesnt steal them

>>383327310
>>383327765
Is there a lore reason for why he steals?

>>383327374
wat

>>383327893
He's actually just Dismas's partner in crime, but he stole some crusader's stuff and went with it.

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>>383301248

>>383327893
I dont think so, its just that him and dismas's are always fixed so hes probably always going to steal some of your shit early on.

>>383327893
no, but there is historical reasons

>>383327374
>not having two crusaders with Holy lance to attack the backline for massive damage forever

>its a TREEBRANCH SMACKDOWN episode
Hate this one

>>383310705
The only thing he did wrong was ignoring the cult instead of shutting it down, but that's a pretty big fuckup.

>>383329084
>it's a "everyone focuses on your character with the least health" episode

>>383329084
>>383329629
>It's a " three Stressful incantation casts on the 50 stress hero.

>>383329629
>>383329843
You know the AI is actually programmed to do this right?

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>>383312518
>stops
>>383311915
>>383311785
>>383311446
>>383310767
>>383310715
>>383310625
>>383310429
>>383310319
>>383308284
Is the entire darkest dungron lore just
"Go on a ruse cruise with granpappy to help him clean up dead hooker"?

>>383328372
Am I crazy and the quirks used to not be locked in for Dismas and Reynauld?

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>>383323209
No it's because they wanted a confilt of interest since they couldn't come up with a villan that could match up with Handsome Jack, and they had to force the "Handsome Jack is bad because he only cares about himself" meme

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>>383329084
>It's a spider party rolling higher initiative episode

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>>383329084
>it's an all four dogs go before any of your party and all hit and proc bleed on the same character episode

>>383329084
>It's a "party member gets crit twice in a row, another goes insane from it, they get scared and move behind someone, removing their ability to do their most reliable damage" episode

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>It's a "Pagan enchantress dodges three attacks in a row" episode

>>383329084
>Its a you feel as if the game is about to make a calculated, forced decision to fuck you over, and it does

RNG can be some real bs sometimes

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>It's a pigman critical vomiting syphilis episode

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>it's a nighttime ambush that leaves you significantly weaker than you were before you camped episode

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>>383330595
>you brought a full stack of bandages just because you knew this'll happen
i can predict things

>it's an enemy with 3 turns so target marking and debuffs are literally pointless, I didn't want those game mechanics anyway episode

>>383331330
>implying you didn't give up your bandages for a stack of loot before the final room in the dungeon, only to be ambushed by doggos

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Prove me wrong.

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>it's a forgot to bring bandages and blight episode

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Will there only be one expansion, or should we expect a couple others before the game is no longer supported?

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>It's a "leper gets shuffled all the way to the back" episode

>>383308298
>Huey Emerich
>did nothing wrong

yup just some casual killing of the son and wife for nuclear weapon science. totally innocent of any crimes and loves D.D. who is clearly NOT a wolf.

>>383331432
>Not remembering all loot locations until you clear the dungeon to backtrack with your extra food and get max loot

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>>383331432
>get rid of torches to make more space for heirlooms
>stumble on 2 piles of scrolls right after that
i'm gonna make columbine look like a fucking joke

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>>383331598
>implying I ever go into the cove without a plague doctor
Fuck the cove

>>383330035
Yep

>>383318464
The basic ponzi scheme is that you were tricked into spilling more blood (sacrifices) in an attempt to stop the ancestors mistakes and implies it's going to be (or is already) an endless cycle of new descendants trying to fix shit.

There's some vagueness or inconstancy. Like at the end ghost ancestor is there to go "actually this was a trick to feed old god baby" which begs the question of why he NEEDED to kill himself or how the narrator seems genuinely repentant for all the shit he did and as the narrator it's not like he's directly talking to your "character".

I'd say this is really the first instance of it happening at least for him because the letter at the start is specifically from him to you rather than from "hello family I tried to fix shit but gotta kill myself now could you please just happen to stop by and try too!" (although I guess you could just fake being your ancestor which would be odd).

Regardless I'd imagine with the like gateway to chaos under the mansion at the very least every few hundred years the crazy lord of the land has done the EXACT same thing to at least a few of his descendants.

Also I just find it weird that specifically it's finding out we're all just a part of a great cosmic horror baby that drove him to crazy. Guy seemed to be THE MADMAN more than anyone.

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>right at the end of a dungeon
>get rid of food for a stack of loot
>take a single step
>hunger check

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>>383301248

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>>383330035
If you want to get the lore whole sale, alright.

Short version:
Darkest Dungeon lore is
>Go to Granpappy's house after he sent you a letter before killing himself, begging you to fix his crimes against humanity for the sake of Eldritch curiosity, only to find out he was ruse cruising you into helping wake up an ancient evil that will destroy the world

Long version:
The game starts out with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjF7rMhxNhg
And with him saying things like 'In time, you will know the tragic extent of my failings' you figure he did some bad things but he's repented by now.
Then you fight the bosses and learn what exactly he did that made it so that EVERYTHING wrong in the Estate is his fault, and how much of an evil bastard he really was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtjV4vd4Jok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHT5YLTZa_w
But then it reaches that point where you realize only seeing the end result of what lied at the end of the Darkest Dungeon what was what made him repentant of everything and kill himself.

Then you get to the Darkest Dungeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiqCYrNmwkM
And the Ancestor was fooling you into coming here the whole time to throw bodies at the Estate to waken the horror in the earth.
He was an avatar for the horror the whole time. And even though he lost, this is all an on-going psuedo-timeloop where everything resets and a new Heir is sent to eventually awaken the chaos and destroy the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slBUGumPc4s

So yeah, your summary is more or less correct

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>>383308298
>that guy from Hatred
>a game where the main objective is to kill innocent people

>Mr. Jefferson
>killed, drugged, kidnapped and raped teenage girls for the sake of ''art''

>did nothing wrong

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>>383301248
If you read randall's journals, you will understand he's right. Killing done in the name of necessity is permissable. Best ending is kill white legs, spare Salt on Wounds. Daniel on the other hand evacuates Zion and cries about getting cucked

>>383332624
That's the joke
The most irredeemable villains are on that list and nothing else

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>>383333020
>Illias
>doing anything wrong

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>>383331608
I sure hope so, the game has been surging in popularity lately, so who knows

>>383314996
They can be useful though, if your skills attack backranks.

>>383331987
Packs laden with loot are often low on supplies.

>>383308298
garrosh did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong and was one of the last good warcraft lore characters. i'm just waiting until he's eventually revived, it's gotta be coming.
gary did nothing wrong also.

>>383331805
>not 4 occultist

>>383332779
>wanting to live in a place infested with giant cazadors

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>Madness can take many forms, but none so contemptible as man's belief in a mythology of his own making. A world view buttressed by dogmatic desperation invariably leads to single-minded fanaticism, and a need to do terrible things in the name of righteousness. This man is an animal - rabid, destructive, and incapable of nuanced understanding. He must be put down.

Reminder he did nothing wrong.

>>383319826
>Is he redeemed in Tales from the Borderlands?
not really, but he is great as usual. they shit on him more, just because. i really enjoyed the game though, probably my favorite that i've played from telltale. i just got it during the summer sale, and except for a couple parts in episode 3 and final fight, it was great. i know the humor of borderlands catches some flak around here but i thought that it was really funny. $6 i don't regret spending.

>>383334406
>no deathclaws
>no tunnelers
>no raiders
>no Legion

t. White Leg

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>>383329084
>he thinks Giants are a problem

This cunt is far, far worse

>>383331598
Are you feeling it now?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrGIIIBhNg

>>383334829

>incapable of nuanced understanding
>/pol/ the boss fight

>>383335149
his stun resist is ez

>>383312805
what if I only use the skins?

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Legit didnt do one bad thing (other then kill herself)

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>>383304192
>>383304093
>acts like my nigga through the start of the game
>find out he's batshit crazy
>still manages to be a pretty cool dude

>>383332410
>let's exsanguinate a daemon and put her blood in my guest's wine for shits and giggles

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN