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Game """critics""" BTFO, how will ign ever recover?
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whoms't?
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>>383294772
JonTron
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>>383294705
You need to be 18+ to post here.
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>>383294705
that was very interesting to watch
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>>383295026
Most users are under that age
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>>383294705
Holy shit, dunkey is done. You don't mess with video games critics. Has nobody learned from gamergate?
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>>383295270
I know. This thread proves it.
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basically just said

>trust reviewers that you learn the opinions of because then you'll better know how to assess their reviews of games

uhhhh no shit? like I understand what he said about IGN but like, the reason IGN exists is because not everyone is a complete autist about video games and willingly to follow e-celebs for their ideas on gaming

what a dumb fucking video, you really can get a lot of content out of nothing in regards to video games because nobody knows shit all
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You know, I'm really getting tired of Demolition D-style editing. I'm all for personality, but not when I can't tell whether somebody is being honest or not.
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>>383294705
fuck off with your reddit eceleb holy shit
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>>383294705
Let me guess he is shitting on the new Crash Bandicoot and says that it's overrated while Botw is goty of century

I think both games are overrated
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>>383294705
It's Kinda hard to disagree with him here. What he said is pretty much the truth, and that's why to my is hilarious that in this day and age there are still idiots that care about what some 'journalist' says, or what score 'x' game had in this or that page.
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>>383295956
>Let me guess he is shitting on the new Crash Bandicoot and says that it's overrated while Botw is goty of century

No, in fact he shit a little on CB, but the video is not about the game.
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>>383295720
I'd probably like demolition D style edition more if it was fucking demo doing it rather than everyone else and their grandma
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>>383296000
>It's Kinda hard to disagree with him here
You kidding me? His style makes me want to stop watching him because I can't figure out how serious he is.
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>>383294705
this retard thinks spelunky and dark souls are """frustratingly hard""", I don't give a shit about any of his sincere opinions
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>talks about reviewers being consistently wrong
>uses that image of god hand getting shit reviews vs that baby game that got good reviews
confirmed /ourguy/
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>>383296103
Oh ok

still I dislike him for being such a big Nintendo fanboy
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>>383296000
IGN exists for the mainstream, although dunkey gets a lot of views he's nowhere near the mainstream

and the mainstream doesn't pour hours into watching dumb game reviews meant for children to figure out the opinions of an autist on the internet
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>>383296135
Why? Sure, Demo does it well, but even then, it's still not Demo at his best like he was in his Evangelion vs Rebuilds three-parter. Heck, his two best "Should You Watch" videos (Mirai Nikki and Kill la Kill) had minimal crazy editing in them.
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>doesn't like anime
>doesn't like turn based rpgs
>doesn't like rpgs in general
OUR GUY
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Die.
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>>383295026
oldfarts get out
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Video game reviews only exist to validate opinions.
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quite an epic video if i do say so myself
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>"lol XD we hate dunkey now"
Contrarianism is a plague and you guys deserve a slap on the back of the neck. No (You)'s today.
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>>383296201
What the hell his style have to do with his argument. I get you don't like his video, but his argument is spot on.
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>>383294705
>I hate game critics
>Now let me enumerate basic points that any game critic knows
>and basically say that I am a game critic, but "the only good one"
>Like and subscribe
What an even-keeled and totally non-self-serving opinion. I can definitely trust a guy like this to keep his integrity.
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>>383294705
>shitting on armond white
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>>383296201
Even if I agree with them at times, I only watch his videos for entertainment value, like all Youtube "game critics".

Everyone else is doing it fucking wrong. At the end of the day, they're ALL getting paid to say shit about some other shit. Arguing over who's better is utterly pointless.
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>Doesn't like rpgs
oh..it's okay, it's not like im gonna unsub him for this haha
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>>383296402
but he likes overwatch
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>>383294705
I stopped listening to dunkey when he said boss baby was bad
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Don't show this to /tv/
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this video is literally a rehash of everything /our guy/ instig8ive said years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwD2GgWKIrs
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>>383296402
Yes he is our guy because he admits that he doesn't like them instead of lying like a spineless fag
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>>383296663
>I only watch his videos for entertainment value
>Everyone else is doing it fucking wrong
Fuck you. I'm too squeamish to watch anime, and I'm too cheap to buy video games, so I need reviewers to tell me what to think about certain popular works. It's why I enjoyed Bob Chipman before he went insane and got fired.
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>le miyazaki for mature movie goers like myself
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>>383296720
A L E C
B A L D W I N
B O S S
B A B Y
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What jrpg is that at around 1:30 in his video?
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>>383296607
Why even bother reading posts that contain nothing but
>REE GET OUT REDDIT
It leads nothing to the discussion except bumping the thread and shitting it up. This is one of the trends in /v/ I wish would fucking stop, its just shitposting and bad shitposting at that.
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why would anyone listen to any "internet personality" when you can listen to friends
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>>383296780
Television/Movie critis are so much worse than gaming critis
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>>383296616
Way to miss the whole point of his video.
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>>383296862
Literally who? I know who, and I'm glad I don't see those /v/ pandering youtube faggots anymore.
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>hates anime
>/ourguy/

lol
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>>383296402
But he said he likes Miyazaki
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>>383297063
Enlighten me.
Where did I go wrong?
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>>383296660

Fuck off Armond, you're a wifes son.
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>>383297141
Ghibli movies don't count as anime.
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>>383297021
I meant as in White being /theirguy/
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>>383297141
yeah but he states a lot of exceptions

like how he hates most anime, most turn based rpgs, and most rpgs but did not hate Persona 5, which is all of those things
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>>383294705
He's right but his game reviews are just as bad
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>fat ugly white nerd talking like a fat autistic black man
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>>383297003
Implying anyone here has '''real'' friends
(Shitposting with people you haven't met IRL on discord or here doesn't count)
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>hates turn based combat

wtf i love him now
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>>383297369
isn't that almost all people on the internet though
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>>383295543
But gamergate is a harassment campaign and has nothing to do with video game criticism. I don't get it.
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>>383297563
no it was about ethics in dog show commentating
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How does Dunkey manage to be so fucking god-tier every time? He's the only eceleb I can think of whose quality is actually proportional to their fame and success.
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subject/player encounters a problem/opposing force and attempts to overcome

there i reviewed every game ever
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>>383297326
He's worse.
Because he doesn't get a steady paycheck, he's way more susceptible to getting free shit (games, trips to E3, etc.) than someone at a proper site.
Even if he hasn't cashed out, ignoring that obvious problem in this video shows he has an enormous blindspot.
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If it's not fun, why bother?
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>>383297224
We'll see they were animated by a Japanese guy and last time I check that sounds a lot like the slang use of the word anime
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>>383296616
Literally none of that was said in the video.

The argument was simple: If you want to be trusted as a critic, you better have a discernible personality and consistent views to be trustworthy. You also better have at least beaten the fucking game if you called it good.

IGN and "games journalists" are just a bunch of nobodies spouting uninformed and inconsistent opinions about games they never finished.
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>>383294705
>waaaaaahhhhh how dare there reviewers think differently from me :((((((
>they cant like games i dont!
>le paid reviews!
>my opinion is fact, don't question it!
>im right they're wrong!
He already proved he's a massive cuck faggot by saying 3D land is better than world, this video just confirms it.
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>>383297563
Gamergate was a lot of things, but mostly it was yet another Chanology: A bunch of people around the internet saying they're gonna dedicate to a cause, and then everybody just does passive-aggressive shit at random and it peters out because nobody knows what the fuck they're doing.
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>Every video he has to mention how nintendo is greatest thing to ever happen
fuck this guy
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>>383297701
Because he doesn't try to pander to dumbass Youtube commenters, SJWs, reddit and /v/. He does his own thing, if you don't like it that's fine, he's not trying to please 3.6 million people at once.
And he has a girlfriend so he isn't a complete fucking loser like most people here.
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>>383297853
The irony in this post.
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>>383297892
where did he mention that
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>>383297967
You need to be 18 to post here, anime cuck.
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>>383297893
+1.
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>>383297701
You. I like you. Take this upvote sir.
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>>383294705

Dunkey seems to have a generally positive view on the Crash Bandicoot remake. Expected him to hate it, really.
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>>383297701
>>383297893
Kill yourselves shills. Faggot cucks.
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>>383297840
There is MORE oversight about that at a review site, not less.
A single guy on YouTube can lie about that shit way easier than IGN, duh.
More importantly, he's just spouting obvious shit everyone knows, with the implication
>I'm the only person doing this right, I'm the only one you can trust.
which is pure auto-felatio.
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>>383296000
Trips of truth
Even worse is that these morons post on /v/ acting like sales of a console or points in a review by some shithead who's bad at videogames guarantee quality
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>>383296201
then you may be on the spectrum
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>>383297892
>Nintendo makes what is considered timeless masterpieces
>FUCK YOU, WHERE'S MY SONY/MICROSFT/PC DICKSUCKING
Come on man. Maybe play games before 6th gen and understand where he's coming from.
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I think everyone knows that game reviewers are a joke except literal children.
Not really something that needs to be said here.
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>>383297282
Well how many execptions is it till one is in denial
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>>383294705
I know when /v/ says a game is shit it is usually good.
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>>383298328
I'm on the spectrum because I hate his presentation?
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>>383296000
He didn't say that, nigger cuck.
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>>383296201
>I can't figure out how serious he is.
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>383298303
>More importantly, he's just spouting obvious shit everyone knows, with the implication
>I'm the only person doing this right, I'm the only one you can trust.

I think you're just autistic and assuming the absolute worst. because you didn't watch the video past 20 seconds.
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>>383298204
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>383298583
It means I need people to agree with everything I say or else I'll yell and scream at them for being different.
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>>383294705
All e-celebs are cancer. Quarantine board when?
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Why does everybody hate turn based combat?
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>>383294705
>its a "dunkey regurgitates the consensus of several other youtubers while adding nothing to the conversation several months past relevance" episode
he really should stick to his reddit humor videos
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dunkey is a fucking loser
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>arguing like scores matter
They don't, and never will, matter more than the content of the review itself. Scores should be abolished.
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>>383298721
Sorry this isn't another console war/LOL/anime shitposting thread, people actually want to talk about something else from time to time.
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>>383298038

hes right tho, he literally addresses this type of response "uh moy gawd he said x, ill NEVER listen to anything from this guy ever again"
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>>383298590
And I think you trust this guy you've never met way too much.
The basic point remains that if you want accountability, YouTubers offer less, not more. His point is inherently retarded.
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What is this preachy shit? If dunkey had any self-decency he would delete this video.
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>>383294705
>talking shit about /ourguy/ and based kinographic critic Armond White
I always knew Dunkey was a cuckold of the highest order.
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>>383298898
If you had any self-decency you would delete this comment
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>>383296961
Blue Dragon
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>>383298819
>Game "reviwer" proves he has no idea what the fuck he's talking about
>"how dare you never trust him again >:("
No, you're right, you should definitely trust your doctor even after he fucks up your surgery.
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>>383294705
Coming from the one who made a video about HoTS and say the game look like shit when he was playing at minimum graphics
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>>383297853
Looool, the video is about reviewers rushing to pump out reviews before finishing the games, and you clearly wrote this comment without finishing the video proving him right.

Good job you fucking invalid.
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>>383294705
Unsubscribed for disrespecting Armond White.
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>>383294705

He's 100% right, but ultimately the only people who bother with review are fanboy who want to hear how the game they like is truly the most perfect thing ever so that they can shitpost on /v/ and normie who don't really gives a shit about the quality of what they are consuming

So it's like trying to stop dung beetle from rolling shit
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>>383299096
kys DC shill
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>>383299289
>>383299096
>>383296660
What did he say about based black movie man? Not going to watch this reddit tier eceleb trash.
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>>383298328
not being able to discern sarcasm/genuineness by using context + a person's voice is a symptom of high functioning autism
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>>383299175

>ultra loaded premise
>retarded analogy
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>>383299534
meant for
>>383298564
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>>383298564
Yes, retard. Never post on my board or my threads ever again
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>>383299592
Not an argument.
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>>383299278
Yet another point that applies more to YouTubers than to gaming sites.
Proper reviewers get games early, most ecelebs don't.
It's YouTube where you find the most people rushing onto the latest fad; established sites don't have to resort to that as much.
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>>383298721
>reeee x is cancer
>quarantine when?!?!?!

Only because you hate something doesn't mean it deserves it's own board.
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>>383299130
Please don't reply to my posts ever again.
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>>383298297
Ah yes, a youtuber with 3.6 million subscribers definitely needs shills on /v/.
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Regardless if you like his content or not, I feel like Dunkey's serious videos are pretty much always spot on.
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>>383294705
The bridge stages are perfectly fine in the Originals.
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>>383294705
Reddit incarnate
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>>383296315
That's really ironic. Did you learn nothing from the video?
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I enjoy dunkey's videos.
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Video is just Dunkey shilling Nintendo like always, dont waste your time
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>>383296616
Fuck me, do you have the comprehension of a middle schooler or something?
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>thinking you can review games on a large scale without having made a game or seriously tried your hand at game development

can't take any of these fags seriously. They don't know what it is like to spend hours coding, trial and error, to get the player not to fall through the fucking floor, yet they all feel like they hold loads and knowledge while yelling vague stupid shit like "HURR THE GAME FEEL JUST ISN'T TIGHT"
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Anyone else thinks PDP is getting better?
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>>383294705
>turn-based combat is fucking boring, tedious and draining. It's the opposite of fun
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>>383300275
*hold loads of experience*

not hold loads
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>>383297176
At birth
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>>383299918
No, it's a very flawed premise, because his ilk are more susceptible to the errors he's pointing out, not less.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much, honestly.
The obvious point of the video is to boost the impression of integrity among his fans. Now why would he do that if he's actually honest?
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>>383300275
>to say if a meal is good or not you should be a cook
kys nigger

in b4 le food analogy maymay kys
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>>383298550
A lot more than one
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>>383298303
You're missing the point. "Oversight" doesn't mean shit when it comes to giving an opinion, particularly one that is easily influenced by the priorities of their co-workers and company. All being a part of a well-recognized company does is lend a false sense of legitimacy on the surface level to fool the uninformed, which crumbles the moment someone wises up and sees the person has no credibility to back their opinion.

What does matter is that the audience has a basic understanding of the individual reviewer's personal preferences and skill in the area he's giving an opinion on. That clues them in on any potential bias in the review or if they flat-out suck at particular genres.

The implication was simply "Trust is earned over time and not to be left to assumption." Smaller reviewers can achieve that easily, not only because most have total independence, but because it's much easier for a single person to build rapport than for a company to try and force it with a revolving door of constantly new faces.
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>>383300420
who's PDP

pewdiepie? Surely you don't mean the guy that gets 3 million views for uploading a compilation of already viral clips of oblivion being glitchy and weird and intercutting with saying WHAT THE HECK

surely you dont mean that guy
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>>383298732
Dunkey's serious vids shows how much of an autist he really is
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>>383300275
Sure, just so long as I never see you complain about a higher-end meal at a restaurant, a movie, a car, or even a common household appliance ever again since you've never made any of those things and don't know what it's like to spend hours on them.
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>>383294705
>irrelevant game critic attacks larger channels out of jealously when he's guilty of the exact same shit
Reminds me of this other nigger, but with cartoons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAOmXzjrSr8

Honestly, who give a shit, though?
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>>383297326
No they aren't. Just the mere fact that he rates things on a normal scale instead of the horrible mainstream one puts him head and shoulders above them. Instead of

>10: Great
>9: Good
>8: OK
>7: Bad
>0-6: Nonexistant

he actually uses a normal system like he showed in the video. Like he said, the important part of being a reviewer is consistency so the viewer can get to know your personal tastes. Dunkey does that really well.
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>>383300275
The skill to make a thing and the skill to analyze a thing are not the same thing in any respect whatsoever.
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>>383297701
Yeah, ikr. His serious videos are always pretty accurate IMO.
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>>383300497
False equivalence, analogies of food and music do not apply here because those are INCREDIBLY subjective art forms and very few things about them need to be objective to get people to like them. The only requirements for food seem to be being edible and music has almost zero fucking objective requirments. People will eat fucking cockroaches and listen to white noise, you cant touch how subjective those things are so it's pretty okay for any schmuck to review them.

However an art form like making video games, there are objective things that have to work, controls need to be responsive to certain degrees, there should be elements of design present to make the experience smooth, blend states between animations should be good so as not to create a choppy experience, and if someone has no fucking experience with the inner workings of any of these things, well you can expect your run of the mill "hurr this game clunky" or "hurr the game feel isn't quite there" comments.
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>>383294705
the theme that starts at 2.30 its from a zelda game right? I cant seem to find it anymore.
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Nu-/v/ is defending game critics now? journos are all going crazy shilling everywhere. I guess gamergate and the"lugenpresse" shit really gets their panties in a bunch.
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>>383298867
>The basic point remains that if you want accountability, YouTubers offer less, not more. His point is inherently retarded.
>The point is that I proven my point
Hurr durr.
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>>383295956
>>383296319
>>383297892
>>383300124
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>>383294705
>even after I put my stuff up, I'm still in the comments
>comment of his starts off as "listen you fucking dickhead"
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>>383298732
Majority of games only employ boring basic turn based combat with little features outside attack/spell/etc. If you are going to do turn based combat then you constantly need to be innovating to keep players engaged.
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>>383297893
Not hard to get a GF when you make that sweet youtube money
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this trend of youtubers pointing out the blindingly obvious and acting like they're insightful needs to stop
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>>383300598
>It's easier for a single person to build rapport.
Do you think I disagree with this?
I don't care about how easy it is for him to build his brand.
I'm saying the problems he states in the video are more prevalent where he is than where he's pointing.
And in general the video is self-aggrandizing BS.
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>>383301042
>However an art form like making video games, there are objective things that have to work, controls need to be responsive to certain degrees
Stopped reading there.
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>>383296936
What is an anime series or film that is as good or better than ghibli/miyazako because that's the only ones I've ever bothered to watch

The localized versions as well
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>>383301146
>Nu-/v/ is defending game critics now?
No. Attacking Dunkey. He's popular on Reddit so we hate him.
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>>383301364
>and acting like they're insightful needs to stop
he's acting like he is pissed
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>>383300752
I thinj you're projecting emotions and motivations that simply aren't there.
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>>383298303
>A single guy on YouTube can lie about that shit way easier than IGN, duh.
Doesn't seem like it. It happens at IGN all the time, but the popular solo reviewers don't do that. You know why? Because their viewers are watching for THEM. If they start doing stupid shit, then they'll stop watching. In IGN's case, stupid shit won't really make them lose any viewers because they're already mainstream shit in the first place, and those kind of people don't care much about how accurate the reviews are. Also, there's so many people writing for IGN, that anything a single person does kind of gets lost in the void, and gets attributed to the site as a whole.

>he's just spouting obvious shit everyone knows
If it was so obvious, the game sites would be out of buisiness. Just cause you're "more enlightened" than the ignorant masses doesn't make it obvious, dumbass.

>with the implication - I'm the only person doing this right, I'm the only one you can trust.
There was literally no implication of that at all, you fucking autist. It was more, find reviewers you like, the huge sites like IGN suck.
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>why is a news agency not as coherent as an individual
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>>383300927
When things have objective parts that need to work, I value the opinion of someone who knows what it takes to make/maintain those things and the experience that comes with being to do that, over the opinion of someone who has zero experience with these things

I'd value the opinion of someone who has made 100 cars over the opinion of someone who has driven 100 cars
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>>383294705
Why the fuck does Dunkey sound like a slightly more autistic Mr. Biscuits? https://youtu.be/qn2JdTmvbpo?t=20s
Does every American from Jew York sound like this?
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>>383294705
Thay was a really bad video. So IGN is bad because their writers have different opinions? Look IGN is shit but that is a dumb ass complain.
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>>383301409
what? What part of that do you disagree with?
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>>383294705
>hating based armond

I stopped listening to Dunkey when he said Armond was bad
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>>383299720
The fuck? It literally is an argument. And a very valid one at that. You're the one who didn't make an argument
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>>383298561
A-are we Armond White?
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>>383296864
But Razorfist also say he hates anime, but you all hate him.
>>383297823
It's not anime if I like it.
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>>383301552
Yeah that was weird, it felt more like shilling for youtubers. Which if course he is gonna like youtubers more, he is one.
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>>383301125
FFV Terra's Theme
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>>383301364
>and acting like they're insightful
That's why the video is good though. If you want to pop a vein you're better off watching Mark Brown or someshit like that.
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>>383298732
It's like Dunkey said, some people just don't have a lot of patience. It's a matter of taste, which is fine.
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>>383295270
underageb&
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>>383301569
>I enjoy driving this car but not the other one
>YOU NEVER BUILT ONE SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ENJOY
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>>383301819
Yes, but less coherent.
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>>383301819
we are all Armond White

he IS us
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>>383299443
basically said he disagreed with his outlook but understood the position of the critic and how people can and should find individual critics with which they agree and follow them instead of mass review sites like IGN which has 37 reviews that aren't clearly labelled and which have inconsistent opinions.
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>>383301862
I like Razorfist
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>>383301926
we call those people "brainlets" actually.

turn based is the thinking mans game.
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>>383301475
yeah so pissed that he uploaded a video where he mentally jerks himself off to completion about a point that's been made a trillion times since gaming journalism first became a thing

he could have at least had the courtesy to put an new or original point on the matter, but why do that when you can pander with the same meaningless platitudes about inconsistency in reviewing everyone else finished making 10 years ago
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>>383294705
Fuck you I'm not watching this because he is black
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>>383301448
That's a bit of a vague question, depending on what you mean by "better," but if you mean better as in better writing or more mature plots, try Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
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>>383301684
Because it's patently false?
Even across the same fucking genres controls don't need to be responsive to certain degrees, look at the difference in input lag in games like Street Fighter V, Guilty Gear, and even Blazblue.
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>>383301547
How are you claiming to know how exactly how much YouTubers play the games they review?
Don't you think the fear of losing viewers could have undue influence on a person's review, whereas someone with job security might not care about fan response?
You'd rather blindly trust a single person than an organization, but whether that's right or not isn't my business.
All I'm saying is he is nowhere near immune to the shit he's decrying, in fact it's the opposite.
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>>383302007
>tfw to intelligent for anything other than turn based
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>>383302006
>>383301862
He has to be fucking bipolar.

>things he dislikes that borrow elements from stuff he likes are ripoffs
>things he likes that borrow elements from stuff he likes are "homages"
If EA, Ubisoft, Sony, or whatever boogeyman he is angry at made Deus Ex HR, he wouldn't have sounded nearly as happy when talking about the parts lifted from Robocop.

>has his tinfoil hat on tight enough to believe Sony orchestrated Michael Jackson's death and has a personal vendetta against the company in general
>bought a PS4
He seriously thinks that buying it used makes this any less retarded.

>hates anime, and anyone with an interest in it
>likes some old OVAs from the "glory days" which are really the same shit as any other anime, but they're old and obscure, so he's convinced that they're good since kids he dislikes haven't seen them.
It's the equivalent of saying The Trashmen is a good band because it's old and obscure. If Iria Zeiram or Record of Lodoss War were released today, you know he'd shit talk them to death He also likes Breath of Fire just because he played it as a kid. Do any of you believe for a second he would give it a chance if it were a new IP that came out today?

>hates Japan and weeaboos
>volunteered in Japan for several years and is learning Japanese
You know he's not learning it because he works for Honda or some shit. Not to mention that despite how much he shittalks "nihongophiles," he still says "SNK is better than Capcom because players from best korea and glorious nippon prefer playing their games on ggpo and are soooo much better than filthy American dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZVYnRxNHxk&feature=youtu.be&t=6m59s

>Duke Nukem Forever is just a silly parody not meant to be taken seriously
>takes MGR at face value
Not even saying MGR was good, but really? You can defend the retardation in the former (not to mention his unironic love of the Ninja Turtles), but not the latter?
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>>383300463
> his ilk are more susceptible to the errors he's pointing out, not less
I don't agree with that, but even so, it was a minor part of the video. It wasn't even his main argument.
>The obvious point of the video is to boost the impression of integrity among his fans
The fuck? No it's not. Dunkey doesn't pander to his fans like that. He never has before. If this truly is that, then it would be the first time, so it's unfair to judge it like that so quickly.
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>>383302006
Hows special ed?
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>>383296660
He did, but he also didn't. He basically said that White's reviews still hold more value than the average review from a video game critic.
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Reviews=/=Criticism

Ultimately, time demands we see more of the former.
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>>383301569
except games are much more about user experience instead of inherent "quality". games are a form of enterntainment, its not a fucking physical product that serves a specific function besides keeping the player entertained. if the player isn't having fun, they are not going to be saftisfied with the product even if its "well made". just look at call of duty games, they are some of the biggest bang for the buck in terms of content and has some of the highest production value in gaming ever with extremely high polish, yet people always shit on it because they find it boring and casual

ultimate opinions on games are extremely volatile and usually has no objective metrics, and to pretend like people that make games are some how more qualified to judge games is dead wrong
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>cucks who flock to ecelebs and worship them
>cant have opinions of their own
>need to constnatly reference and shill their eceleb opinions
>lazy little cucks cant even say anything themselves
>just little cucked lazy parrots who chirp every 5 seconds repeating what their eceleb said
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>>383301448
why do miyazaki and jojo get some sort of free pass from the anti anime crowd when both are just as anime as other animes. What does being anime even mean to normal fags because this hate seems so forced.
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>>383301887
>FFV Terra's Theme

thanks senpai
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The best thing about /v/ is seeing a bunch of 17 year olds try to out-edge each other in pretty much every thread
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>>383302402
aw

I felt that hug

I needed one, too
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>>383302065
All that is true, but that's why you have to find specific reviewers you can trust. There's a lot of shit on youtube, but that doesn't mean there aren't some people who act with integrity. Personally, I trust Dunkey, but only because he hasn't done any of that stuff in the years that I've been following him. The second he does, I'm out. IGN, on the other hand, does that stuff all the time.
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>>383297853
Land is better than World.
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>>383294705
What's his point, exactly? Everybody knows critics gives games 7-10 points no matter how bad they are. They're still more useful than fucking youtubers who do the same stupid shit, pumping out reaction videos/reviews/gay comedy for attention as much as possible.
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>>383298732
Amerifats are too stupid for that. It involves not just rushing in like a fucking nigger and maybe even a bit of reading.
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>>383294705
Well he's exactly right about how to approach game critics. You need to find people who you (mostly) share opinions with and get a good understanding what kind of games they like and don't like. For example one of my favorites in Finnish game journalism was this guy NNirvi, an old dude who likes old games and strategy games.
Now I know that he probably won't like certain types of games at all, that's why I discard his opinion when it comes to those games and I listen to someone who I know would at least give a fair chance to that game.

That's just how I see it at least
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>>383301448
I'll give you a few reccs
Mobile Suit Gundam 79
Samurai Champloo
Vampire Hunter D(OG) and Bloodlust
Hellsing Ultimate(fun as fuck edgefest)
Gankutsuou
Code Geass
Death Note(solid thriller)
Hunter X Hunter 2011
Black Lagoon
Trigun
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Baccano
Fate/Zero

Out of all these Black Lagoon,Hellsing Ultimate and Trigun have the actually good dubs
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>>383302167
The rest of the video was him listing off the standard grievances against game sites, most or all of which stick to him better than the people he's attacking.
I'm ignoring the movie stuff, I'm not /tv/.

What do you think the point of the video was then, given that you're more familiar with his work?
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>>383301569
I literally don't care how it works. As far as I'm concerned the programming is a black box that does magic.

If a game has a flaw, It makes no difference to me whatsoever why it's there, because it has the same actual impact on me no matter what. I don't care if it was too difficult to fix in time, I don't care if another feature required it to be that way, I don't care what the reason is no matter what it is because none of that has any bearing on things that actually matter to me.

ALL that matters is whether or not the experience of playing the game is fun. You don't even need to know what computer programming is at all for that. It provides no meaningful context, information, or utility.

If my car's gas tank is going to explode and kill me I literally don't care what mechanically causes it and I don't need to know. All I need to know is that the car's gas tank is going to explode and kill me.
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>>383298436
*MADE

ftfy
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>>383302660
>better than the people he's attacking
Yes that is how criticising people works
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>>383301448
This one.
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>>383302454
???
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>>383297125
i don't know why people always gave them attention

like nyanners, for example
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>>383302161
Me liking him doesn't mean that i am some autistic fan looking at holes,hypocrisies and inconsistencies of his every video and blindly defending his mistakes.
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>>383302413
>cuck
>cuck
>cuck

Anon, are you okay? I think you need some time off here. It's detrimental to your brain development.
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>>383302046
By better writing and more mature plot do you just mean the characters are edgy and they fight a lot with crazy powers
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>if a gaming website has many writers you can lose track of who's talking!

what, like a newspaper?
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>>383302710
Do you really think people will forget Xenoverse or Splatoon?
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>>383295270
including you
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>>383302958
>cuck cant handle being called out
>cuck goes and makes 15 more shill threads to parrot an eceleb's verbal diarrhea
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>>383294705
Why is every big youtuber a nintendo or pc dicksucker?
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>>383302981
>newpaper
>usually one person writing about one topic
>gaming website
>multiple people writing/talking about the same game
how retarded are you?
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>>383302419
Jojo is a meme

Miyazaki is high quality and doesn't devolve to shonen action fights or loli magic highschool pantyshot pandering
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>>383303117
it's the correct opinion
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>>383302996
everyone that isn't a nintendo drone.
splatoon wouldn't even be talked about if it were on non nintendo platforms. it'd just be another shooter.
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>>383303117
Because PC and Nintendo have all the relevant games?
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>>383303074
Anon, why don't you get off here and play some video games. I'm gonna play some Witcher 3 now. I hope you find a game you can enjoy.
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>>383303118
never read a film magazine mate?
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>>383302838
That looks fucking retarded. No thanks
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>>383302006

Why, though? Honestly curious here.
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>>383296607
This board is full of faggot shit anyway.
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>>383302419
Couple of things to note about Miyazaki films.

1. Miyazaki stuff was pushed by Disney.
2. They got fairly good English dubs and theatrical releases, unlike the standard fair of 4kids dubs and staying up until very late at night to watch FLCL or whatever.
3. Theater animation in general is more respected than tv animation, especially in the west. (Compare how Americans view straight to video films to how the Japanese do)

As for Jojo, there are memes associated with it. No really, that's actually a large part of it. Most people don't even actually watch it that joke about those things.
>>383302972
No, that's not the case at all. The characters have actual motivations for their actions, they're trying to end a war, and there are no powers, these are all regular human beings. Even the "genius" characters are not invulnerable. They still have to command an army of regular people, which they are pretty much powerless without.
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>>383303117
because xbox and ps4 games tend to be shit made for normalfags
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>>383303294
>moving the goalposts
*raises paw*
ummm, what are you talking about now?
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>>383303325
Solid,eloquent rants and nice Music Mythos Videos
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>>383294705
>the people in the thread going "muh armond"
He is with out a doubt the dullest critic in the history of movie critics. Seriously, each episode following the boy reviewer and his pals from Rotten Tomatoes as they watch assorted movies has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the reviews’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of insight, all to make films unmagical, to make cinema seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Armond vetoed the idea of Ebert writing the reviews; he made sure the critiquing would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody? Just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for his conservatism. The Armond White movie reviews might be anti-Muslim (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Cole Smithey in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the recommendations are good though r-right
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the reviews were terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time Harry Potter came up, the critic wrote instead that the franchise was "dull."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Armond's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that he has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving analysis by the same Doug Walker. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Armond White at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to watch the Nostalgia Critic." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Armond White" you are, in fact, trained to watch the Nostalgia Critic.
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>>383294705
Fuck off milienial.
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>>383303271
>YOU SHOULD LEAVE IF YOU DONT LIKE ME SHILL ECELEBS CONSTANTLY
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>>383303074
t. shitposter
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>>383302546
>HURR DURR ITS THE AMERICANS
living in your head rent free yurocuck
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>>383296607
Since when the fuck "WE" like youtubers faggot?
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>>383303149
>loli magic highschool pantyshot pandering
LMAO. Miyazaki's works generally aren't even that good and at worst, are just straight up boring. Mononoke and Nausicaä are pretty good, but generally, it's shit like Tototoro, which really isn't better than most other small children's anime.

One good thing I can say about him is that he doesn't stand for censorship, but that should be standard among all of these creators.
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>>383303442

I see.
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>>383303417
most publications are multiple people writing multiple articles. you shouldn't expect a general consensus unless the publication exists to push it's own agenda.

the point i'm getting at is that people read film and television and music magazines and get all manner of opinion. dunkey's brain is so small he can't handle the idea that multiple writers might have different opinions and that it difficult to comprehend for a small mind so he would rather every IGN review was written by 'IGN'
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>>383294705
>all these asspained Armondfags
I love it. Man of Steel was complete trash.
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>>383301448
Himouto! Umaru-chan is the only anime worth watching.
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Personally, I agree with most of what he said, but I prefer to ask people I know in real life if they enjoyed a game, or maybe even borrow it to try it out.

From my understanding, this relates to Unkle Dunkle's points because you should be able to trust reviewers opinions like you would your friends and acquaintances, but that's simply not the case. Even your casual shitter friends can provide some insight, because if they like a game you'd think they wouldn't, it's clearly very accessible. But if your friends/reviewers don't even play the game and just tell you it's good, you can't use their opinion.

Did I get it right?
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>>383303729
People hate what they don't understand.
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>>383301971
>he watches reviews to see what some random individual likes and doesn't watch a reviewer who knows objective things about quality, saftey, durability etc
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>>383302419
jojo is basically the modern dbz it seems, nothing about it is good besides the over the top action and outlandish character/power designs. its an anime that is very un-anime as well and ghibli films are practically just disney movies by the japanese

>>383301448
you do realize miyazaki films recycle and rehash its narrative themes over and over to a point where his story telling pretty much peaked at naussica and everything afterwards is just rehashing the same shit?
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>In Get Out, just as Obama did, Peele exploits racial discomfort, irresponsibly playing racial grief and racist relief off against each other, subjecting imagination and identification to political sway. Get Out’s routines — Chris identifying with a wounded deer, Chris being introduced to clueless, suspicious, patronizing, dishonest, and rapacious whites — paint a limited, doomed picture of race relations. Like a double-dealing demagogue’s speech, there’s just enough pity to satisfy black grievance and just enough platitudes (Rose back-talking a white cop) to make whites feel superior.

>Chris’s detachment from real-world social status brings to mind the cluelessness of the Hope & Change generation, in dire need of a reality check; instead, Millennials rely on the Obama era’s civil-rights bromides and social-justice aphorisms

>Get Out does not rank with America’s notable race comedies — Brian De Palma’s Hi, Mom!, Ossie Davis’s Gone Are the Days! (Purlie Victorious), Robert Downey Sr.’s Putney Swope, Melvin Van Peebles’s Sweet Sweetback, Hal Ashby’s The Landlord, Rusty Cundieff’s Fear of a Black Hat, Skin Game or any of the genre spoofs by the Wayans family, particularly the ingenious Little Man, or the recent Eddie Murphy films (The Klumps, Norbit, Meet Dave, A Thousand Words) that are so personal and ingenious, they transcend racial categorization.
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>>383302660
>listing off the standard grievances
First off, just because they're standard grievances to some people, doesn't mean its obvious to everyone. That video surely informed tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people on the subject, so I don't think it's fair to just say that it's a useless video.

>most or all of which stick to him better
I don't agree with this either. If a solo reviwer starts doing something stupid, his fans will stop watching him, and he'll lose credibility. In a huge site's case, anything negative gets attributed to the site as a whole, so there's not really any personal accountability. I doubt 95% of people who regularly read IGN reviewers even check who's writing it. Also, huge sites like IGN attract a more casual audience, who just don't care about the sort of thing Dunkey was talking about.

>What do you think the point of the video was
I think his main point is that people need to realize that reading reviews only really matters if you know the reviewer's personal tastes. Like he said, reviews from big sites are wildly inconsistent, since there's dozens of reviewers that could possibly be writing it. Somebody giving a platformer a low score is meaningless unless you know what they generally think about platformers. If they suck, like that guy at gamespot, then their review doesn't matter as much. If they don't like the genre in general, their review doesn't matter as much. There's no real way to know that with the big sites. I feel like that was his main point.
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>>383303797
lmao
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Miyazaki is a talentless old hack that was never as good as Osamu Tezuka or Go Nagai, is butthurt that there's no equivalent of Pluto or Devilman G for his works, but still thinks he's an expert, despite most of his works having what his fanboys would call "loli moeshit" now anyway. Him and his blind fanboys (that likely haven't seen much of his films to begin with) will say that they don't like other anime because it's all weird and stupid, yet they seem to ignore anything good that occurred in the last decade because "LOL, THAT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS MY NARRATIVE" People still fondly remember other mangaka of his time and there are homages made to their work like Pluto, the forementioned a re-imagining of Astro Boy (which even has a very subtle cameo of Black Jack that isn't beat over your head, so you know Urasawa actually cares about Tezuka's works), but I don't think anyone gave enough of a shit about Kiki's Deliverly Service or Totoro (which we all know his fanboys would shit on if they came out today) to do anything with them. Ushio To Tora and Parasyte are both based on manga from 20+ years ago, but I'm almost certain none of you watched those, as its easier to complain about things than actually try to fix it somehow. Besides, Miyazaki has the money and resources to create change and can easily make something to "save" anime himself if he cares that much. Oh wait, none of you actually want to watch anime and would rather cry about things you don't watch than watch stuff made for you. You're literally just the "wrong generation" kids from YouTube that have listened to less than 20 bands, but with anime. Congratulations on outing yourselves, I guess.
For more information on why you sound like an uneducated child spouting useless rhetoric with no facts or data backing up your claims, please consult this article https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/

Also, Eva sucks. It's the same "not anime if I like it" shit, but with mecha.
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>>383303856
>very un-anime
How so? Because it has white characters? Seems like the same bullshit strategies you see in many other, less popular series.
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>>383303729
this is so fucking embarassing
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based our guy dunkeyy
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>>383303117
Because nintendo is a comfort zone for the lowest common denominator. Every mildly casual gamer knows about nintendo shit.
As for PC, everyone has one.
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>>383303768
That's about right. You should trust people you know.
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>>383303117
Because Nintendo is fun and PC is at least pretty.
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>>383304267
Lemme guess, you're on the spectrum?
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Seems like the people complaint about Dunkey just seem to have this inability to separate sarcasm from real shit.
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>>383303730
That looks autistic

Go watch cartoons for toddlers if you like that
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>>383296660
>>383299443
>>383299289
>>383299096
He said more good things about Armond White than most people would.
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dude you're a few years late on gamergate
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>>383304267
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>>383294705
That transition to his point about "focus" got me good.
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>>383304267
That article is shit and full of pseudointellectual liberal snark that I just can't fucking stand. Go masturbate to your supreme taste on neogaf.
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>>383297563
Nah, gamergate was a bunch of neckbeards mad that game critics are an incestuous joke.
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>>383303768
>Even your casual shitter friends can provide some insight, because if they like a game you'd think they wouldn't, it's clearly very accessible.

That's pretty much what Dunkey was saying tho. He said that he usually hates turn based, hates anime, but liked P5, so it should be a sign that it's something special. If a reviewer is consistent, and you know what their tastes are, then It's just as good as asking you friends. Better even, since they have a higher chance of knowing what they're talking about, since it's their job.
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>>383302627
Pretty good list, but why Code Geass? I don't think it's on the same level as the others given its high amount of flaws? I was really annoyed by the inconsistencies such as Lelouch still being allowed his wealth despite hiding out in exile.
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>>383296000
Retards on /v/ only use scores to false flag, bait or console wars.
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>>383304104
>His fans will stop watching
Not if they don't find out about it. That's what I mean by more accountability.
>No personal accountability.
First off, your new is showing (8.8, etc.). Second, he points out specific reviewers by name in the same video, so clearly he does know people care about that sort of thing.
>Main point
Well, my rebuttal is >>383303724.
>My viewers can see into my very soul and know exactly who I am after a couple hours of my produced videos.
>But they can't handle reading a by-lne and doing the same thing on another site.
It's a ridiculous argument, but also it's embarassingly self-serving.
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>>383294705
Was funny and I agree with it but at the same time this topic has been discussed to death already. I don't know why he felt the need to make a video about it now. Everyone knows reviewers are full of shit but nothing is ever going to change about it.
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>>383304267
This is your brain on weebshit
Let this post serve as reminder that you should appreciate anything Japanese from a distance, once the years have passed and true classics are discovered.
Ours is an immense cultural gap and forcing yourself to "get it" will effectively make you a pariah.
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>>383301862
>>383304267

Let's go over the list of "not x if I like it" series now.

Miyazaki (not anime if I like it)
Watchmen (not capeshit if I like it)
Spec Ops: The Line (not a brown and bloom shooter if I like it)
Dark Souls (not a JRPG if I like it)
Any more for you all to add?
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>>383304392
the art style, the lack of female characters, the setting, the characteristics of the characters

the only thing anime about it is that the powers dont make fucking sense and the story is all over the fucking place
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>>383298732
Don't know. Not really my type but can't say I hate it as there have been a few games that I've enjoyed that use turn based combat.
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>>383305492
If it's Japanese animation, it's anime.

If not, then why can't western-made animations also be considered as anime?
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>>383303730
BAD DOG
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>>383305393
I don't think there's anything wrong with liking the best a genre has to offer, but no more than that. That just makes logical sense.
Like, if you're only going to like one anime, make it the best one, duh.
Unless you think those things are shit, in which case who cares why they like it, it's shit.
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>>383304932
Watch one episode. I dare you.
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>>383304392
It doesn't have enough anime tropes, that seems to be the complaint.
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>>383296402
but he played FF7
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>>383304705
>>383305017
Not arguments, try again mobile posters.
>>383305031
You are correct about the guy being a filthy commie, but his point stands that when retards are faced with facts, they just ignore them if they don't like them. I was in a thread the other day where people didn't realize how media production worked and when I pointed out the truth to them, they kept going "LOL, YOUR SOURCES DON'T COUNT, I'M RIGHT" because they just couldn't handle being wrong. If anything, the neogaf crowd is the people doing that.
>>383305362
This is probably the most xenophobic post I've heard all day. Ching chongs are so different from us round eyes that just a teeny tiny bit of research on their works makes you crazy?

How hilarious that /v/ complains about normalfags and the like being stupid, but then go crazy when they see a post longer than a twitter comment. Keep in mind half of those "true classics" aren't even any better than anything else that a media form has to offer. This is like saying that you're done with film after watching Citizen Kane. (which, while groundbreaking at the time, is not very special by today's standards)
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>>383303730
>Umaru
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>>383294705
Dunkey has such shit taste in vidya though; He managed to convince himself that Super Mario Sunshine isn't absolute garbage. And I did watch the video but his argument is flimsy at best. He talks about consistency being key with reviews and then immediately talks about how inconsistency is actually a good thing.
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>>383305827
I'd rather not. Just the design of that character is annoying, and hearing it with a super high pitched fast ching chong voice would be even worse
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>>383305492
Where does this bullshit about anime being all female characters come from? Most shounenshit is about male characters fucking things up. Just open a Shounen Jump or whatever and it's mostly just that. Does everyone's opinion of anime come from the smugh anime girls /v/ posts?
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>>383305764
>thinks Dark Souls is the best JRPG ever made
how to spot someone that has played less than 5 JRPGs in their entire life
>inb4 "if I haven't heard of it, it's shit"
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>>383306152
>super high pitched fast ching chong voice
Why are westerners so biased against asian voices?
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>>383301448
AKIRA

>>383302627
It's criminal that you forgot to mention Cowboy Bebop, Ergo Proxy, and Steins Gate
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>>383305935
>>383305935
>weeaboo faggot keeps defending his poorly made life choices
Stop pretending to appreciate Japanese media unless it's heavily westernized slop made directly for you, you filthy fucking gaijin
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>>383306609
I have a Japanese wife, too late to quit now.
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>>383305935
You're the type of person that even /jp/ laughs at.
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>>383306682
>I have a Japanese wife, too late to quit now.
whoa what

you should have mentioned that first
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>>383306321
You are mad at a phantom, anon.
You couldn't have deep cuts without surface-level stuff.
There is no such thing as an object without a surface after all, unless you live in some non-euclidean hellscape.
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wtf I love fun now
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>>383294705
He should switch off the funny black guy voice when he's making serious videos.
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>>383294705
is he "our guy"?

this is literally gamergate
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What's the song playing at 2:30 in the video from again?
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>>383306440
Because it sounds bad and that's not their natural voice, they do it that way on purpose to sound "cute" when in reality they sound how a screeching child does
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So what the fuck is it about Persona 5 that gets everyone into it?
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>>383303117
Because PC streaming/recording requires no capture cards and therefore is the obvious and easy choice for anyone to get into. Those that got big likely started from just streaming PC games and continued to do so because that's what their audience likes.

Nintendo's games are exclusive and instantly recognizable, and the company has a good understanding of how to bank on nostalgia. Also, they have a lot of loyal die-hard fanatics -- making it an easy choice for streaming and getting a nice sized audience. It's the same reason a lot of adults still see Disney movies despite them not being very good (They'll continue to assume they are good).

Xbox is literally shit and has zero advantages over Playstation nor any redeemable exclusives -- and thankfully it's dying since it's audience has stopped caring about video games. Sales so ludicrously bad Microsoft stopped releasing sales numbers. Those people also don't give a fuck about watching the games online. Playstation was always a weeb/JRPG machine. Most of it's big exclusives have devolved into terribly unfun triple A schlock, but it's still full of great sleeper hits like the Yakuza series. People don't flock for sleeper hits, though.
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>>383305048
Ok, so I got the point. Thanks for verifying.
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>>383307195
It's fun. Rent it or something.
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>>383307195
Its an okay game with stylish and energetic presentation so people get gripped by it
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>>383306682
Damn. You may be an ass, but you're already above most of these virgins if true.
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>>383307195
Style, pizazz and simplistic traditional RPG gameplay.
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>gaming 'journalism'
I haven't been to a website of that kind in like 3 years
At this point I genuinely believe reading half-shitposting half-serious threads on /v/ is a better way of ascertaining whether a game is good than reviews
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>>383303637
His post didn't say that
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>>383295270
"Most users" need to kill themselves
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>>383306682
does she work at nintendo? if so she might know my dad
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>>383295270
>users

next youre gonna call 4chan a forum
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>>383294705
>game critics are shit
in other news the sky is blue
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>>383294705
>I hate turn based combat and anime
I hate niggers and donkeys
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this guy likes league of legends, his opinion on anything is fucking worthless
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Okay, what are some non-biased completely fair reviewers?
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>>383295026
Old underage teenagers would disagree with him.
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>/our X/

kill yourselves
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>>383307195
I don't get the hype either. But it looks fun, too bad I'll have to pass it off as I'm not going to buy a PS4 for one game.
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>>383307773
some anon on 4chan once told me my favorite game is shit and I should kill myself

harsh but fair
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>>383307773
I'm literally the only one.
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>>383303117
Because only manchilds and autismos are "freelance" game reviewers, guess which two systems have those them in spades?
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>>383307773
Someone who hasn't been paid to say certain things, doesn't have predisposed preferences/dislike for certain games

Doesn't exist. The best a reviewer can do is be honest about their convictions and be able to back them up. Everyone has biases.
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>>383307765
>this guy got insanely popular off hundreds of League videos

There's a big difference here. I've never seen a video of him admitting to actually liking league (admittedly haven't watched but one or two of those videos), but I did see the last one where he called it tedious, boring shit that caters to retards -- which I can understand having only played ASSFAGGOTS a handful of times and thinking the same thing. He seems to have gotten sick and bored of Overwatch, too, but laid that to rest quietly with his last video.
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>>383294705
>don't listen to major game review websites because they're trash
I'd say no shit, but everytime I read a youtube comments section, somebody always brings up review scores.
Also
>e-celeb
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>>383301448
Satoshi Kon
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So at what point is someone considered an "e-celeb", a certain subscriber/follower count?
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>>383302161
>takes MGR at face value
his hateboner for kojima extends to spin offs, cameos and anything that contains metal gears
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>>383307765
https://youtu.be/VjzgbZL12VI
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>>383308848
I set the bar at 100,000 subscribers and at least a few videos that have hit over 1 million views. Don't know about other anons.
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>>383307773

That's a stupid question everyone has biases. A better question would be who is transparent about their biases and express consistent standards for what they do or don't like in a game.
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On point.

The metacritic rush is why Nioh is rated as highly as Bloodborne on metacritic, when its shitty enemy variety makes it unbearable by the time you're halfway through the campaign.
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>>383307956
It's out on PS3 isn't it
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There seems to be a lot of angry game critics ITT
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>>383308848
the breaking point is when random people try to shove the guy in your face even though you didn't ask for anything
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>>383306796
/jp/ is full of self hating retards that wished their dads and Nihon loved them, so that's not shocking.
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>>383306856
Are you implying that Dark Souls is the best because it makes you appreciate Phantasy Star more? Eh, I can't relate to this experience as I played PS before DS. Maybe for newcomers.
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>>383294705
>It's a dunkey says shit must people with half a brain already knows and pretends to be intelligent
I wish he would stick to humor, his "serious" videos are always shit.
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>>383308689
>playing a game you hate just to get views
sounds just as retarded and cucked. You KNOW better shit exists, yet you still go for the low hanging fruit. I'm sure some will argue you'll get less money, but get a real job if you care about that.
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>>383301862
Razorfist is a whiny fagget
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>>383302419
people like shows with good, overarching plots focused on a cast of relatable characters that develop relationships and personalities over the course of the series which is less than 1% of all anime ever produced
people don't like waifu tits harem extravaganza #285283523 or nerd gookspeak pop culture big bang theory with lolis #32858235 unless they're desperate virgin neet shut-ins and that's 99% of the shit people will see when they look up anime
that's the difference
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>>383309291
Yes
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>>383294705
That MK8D video was accurate
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>>383308848
An e-celeb is someone that flaunts their popularity without abandon and their goals are to actively seek a spotlight through any means, whether that's 'journalists' and outside online communities.

All other popular youtubers avoiding the spotlight or at the very least putting the audience first are simply entertainers, but honestly it's fine to watch whatever. No one gives a fuck. It's just a basic personal believe of who you believe to be in it to entertain and those you think are just talentless hacks cheating their way to the top.
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>>383309915
Well maybe pick it up on the PS3 then
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>>383295270
ledditor thinking he's hot shit
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>>383307162
A bunch of Japs actually sound like that.
>>383307451
>>383306846
>autistic faggot mentions he has had sex
>suddenly you're all impressed
High schoolers GTFO, this is not impressive to 90% of the world. Hell, even the autistic fuck known as Bill Gates has a wife.
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>>383309998
You should
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>>383296201
Who cares about it? Just watch it for the laughs, he and Yahtzee are pretty the only "reviewers" worth seeing thanks to it.
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I don't know why but there's something really suspicious about how every single review for Batman Arkham used the same phrase of "it makes you feel like Batman".
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>>383294705
>how will ign ever recover?
By calling gamers sexist and patting themselves on the back for doing the hard-hitting jobs that REAL gamers want to hear.
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>>383302627
Help me enjoy Hellsing. To me it looks like middle-school goth kid tier trash.

My friend told me to watch some clips and they honestly looked so shit and edgy. Like literally goth vampire shonen with guns and christianity symbolism.
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>>383310140
>hello gamereviewer#1542, for your paid review we advise to use the key points "feel like batman"
>we attach your payment to this letter
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>>383302546
>DURR AMERICANS
fucking obsessed
>>383298732
it sucks in alot of games, games like paper mario did it perfectly.
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>>383309897
Jojo is literally the exact same shit as all other crap in Shonen Jump, what the fuck are you on? Yuyu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter, One Piece, Eyeshield 21, and Saint Seiya all have these qualities.
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Does anyone know that youtube twins/couple who reviewed the retron 5 and one was some trans lass?
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>>383303729
>encouraging someone to awtch the watchmen movie

why would you make someone suffer like that.
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>>383310315
Hellsing is a comedy. That's actually what makes it enjoyable. The over the top nature of the villains is the most hilarious part of the show.
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>>383309897
>how to spot a shitposter
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DONT BELIEVE CRITICS!!!


JUST WATCH US YOUTUBERS!!!
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>>383303626
>>383310439
Half of this thread is Ameritards going "I just don't get that weird foreign stuff, not enough guns, explosions, and English words, so it's shit". Coincidence? I think not, now go ask Schlomo for a second circumcision so you can fully transition to being transsexuals this time.
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>>383298732
depends on game honestly
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Why does /v/ hate e celebs so much? Jealousy?
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>>383310439
>it sucks in a lot of games
Translation, it sucks at all the main stream JRPGs because it's not enough action.
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>>383310316
more like "whoops we left a thousand dollars in cash in this envelope haha but dont worry about sending it back to us pal, also there's a big flatscreen tv heading your way just to make sure you experience this game at it's finest and this $3000 laptop to write your review on as impartially as possible, this isn't a bribe though (lol) we just really like you! PS: say the game makes you feel like batman and we will send you another $1000 just for being good buddies. this is not a bribe and definitely has no connection with IGN so don't put it in your tax returns! if you talk to anyone about this at all we might accidentally slip and pull advertising funds from your website for our game that takes up the entire border of every page on your site so we have to you pay every time anybody clicks anything at all but its definitely not a bribe *wink wink* :^)"
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>>383298436
>Every youtube personality needs to be a MUH SNES/N64/GC/MUHREEO/ZELDA babbling retard that doesn't know anything outside of Nintendo
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>>383310972
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>>383299096
>based
>kino
>cuck
>//
How many memes did I miss?
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>>383309846
>he played a game he eventually grew to hate because it was popular and made him decent money!

>he should go full retard and abandon everything he's worked to build, and instead sink time into something he probably hates even more and is less skilled in because that's a 'real job'

You're both an idiot and a jaded fuck, congratulations. People doing unconventional things they like that they've also found a way to earn them a livable wage is definitely not an 'unreal job.' He stopped playing league and moved on to other games he actually likes -- seems like a pretty rational fucking thing to do.
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>>383310972
No, because they're just barely vidya, most of them suck, and a good bit of them are just unfunny memelords. I only watch a dank YouTubelord if he is
1. Good at the game
2. Manage to stay on topic
3. Keep their retarded in-jokes to a minimum.
4. At the very least, is knowledgeable about the game
This is why I'll watch something like Beta64, a channel that actually talks about media production and gives interesting info about previous builds of games, but not Angry Joe, the kind of retard that cries about the lack of a story in KoF XII (already stupid) and the lack of explanation of previous events in MGS5 Ground Zeroes when he admits he has not played previous games in the series.
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>>383311202
It's as tangentially related as file name threads and post your desktop threads.
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>>383303117
literally no one cares about Sony exclusives, seriously check their sales, they are pitiful outside of UC4, people buy Xbox exclusives when they do come, but the community is non-existent compared to Playstation so you see even less of it.
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He is right, game critics are shit and sell reviews for BJs of chubby and ugly purple haired devs. Of course, that is nothing /v/ isn't saying without stop for the past years.
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>>383311028
I'm convinced most Ameritards have only played Final Fantasy or something once and base their entire opinion of turn based combat on that. Hell, most probably didn't even finish FFVII since I see so many posts about Cloud being """emo"""
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>>383311413
it literally isn't
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>>383311028
Paper Mario is the best JRPG
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>>383311437
so why did people cry "no games" if no one cares"?
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>>383300456
>>383297176
btfo
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>>383311565
Dunkey was referring to turn based RPGs not games like XCOM or JA you dense eurotard
>>383311645
because this is /v/?
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>>383302996
>Do you really think people will forget Xenoverse
Given that you can't even remember the name of the fucking game, yeah I guess so.
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>>383302996
>Xenoverse
You mean XenoBLADE? See, even you forgot the title, retard. Also, yes. Do you remember Xenosaga or Xenogears? I highly doubt it since they weren't on Nintendo consoles, but anyway, XG was much better than the other two, but you never see it on the "le best JRPGs" lists since it's neither Final Fagotry or Dank Souls.
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>>383311581
>people who stream games isn't more on topic than people posting their desktops or funny pictures related to games.
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>>383311914
pretty much yeah
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>>383311632
It's the best JRPG if your experience with the genre amount to FF and maybe Chrono Trigger. Not saying it isn't a damn good game, but its no where near close to the best.
>>383311565
No, it isn't just Americans they don't like the genre for really odd reasons, it's everywhere. I assume it's a minority in Japan though considering DQ is in every Japanese's blood.
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>>383301448
Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex is pretty gr8. Gundam 0080 made me more emotional than anything Miyazaki made, though I never watched Grave of Fireflies. Personally I can't stand Miyazaki he always seems so preachy.
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>>383311781
>but you never see it on the "le best JRPGs" lists
fucking implying Xenogears doesn't get dicksucked to hell and back
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>>383311303
Actually, yes. And you want to know why? YouTube is an INCREDIBLY unstable source of income. I know this is hard for you millennial fuckboys to understand since you can just call your parents up and ask for a handout, but in the real world, if your job is on a website where your income source can be immediately taken away due to a false copyright strike, it's not something you should base your entire survival around. Look at Total Ass Cancer. He got a false strike from a Sega employee and he began to boycott their products to make a "point" and let's not forget those retards like Angry Joe that were surprised that Nintendo actually enforced their copyright rules. Face it, if your entire job is making money talking over media produced by other people on a site known for taking down videos using media not created by you (and even sometimes media you created yourself), then you ROYALLY fucked up somewhere in life.
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>>383311781
You should replay Xenogears. And you're not allowed to use the fast forward key on your emulator. Then tell me it's a good game.
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>>383312013
That first they was suppose to be that.
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the state of neo /v/ and eceleb shit. absolutely disgusting. you fucking newfags aren't part of 4chan and you never will be. you're offsite cancer inhabiting a corpse like the parasites you are
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>>383312056
now you know where his fans get it from
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>>383312013
Chrono Trigger is good
I always hated final fantasy, the big problem with alot of JRPGs in my experience has been their insanely slow starts, but a good chunk of them get around that, Paper Mario just happens to be my personal favorite.
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>>383311437
>literally no one cares about Sony exclusives, seriously check their sales
>muh sales
Opinion discarded
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>>383312201
How else do you measure how many people like it? So a game getting a 10/10 and sales from 5 guys makes it the best game ever because of LOL STATISTICS?
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>>383294705
Literally who the fuck is this? Some e-celeb? I swear to fuck you cunts need your own containment board.
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>>383296135
I would like it of demo did it at all.
WHERE ARE MY FUCKING VIDEOS DEMO!?!?
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>>383312189
>Hates games with slow starts
>Likes the original Paper Mario
?
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>>383312283
>How else do you measure how many people like it
I guess FIFA and CoD are bigger vidya icons than Mario while W101 is an overhyped piece of trash only people with buyers remorse enjoy
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>>383312143
Counting on google ad revenue is simply stupid. Big youtubers have contracts with companies.
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>>383312087
on /v/, maybe, but not on mainstream sites. In fact, if it got analyzed today, people would complain about the male prostitute or the virginity based insults.
>>383312158
>I have no patience whatsoever
Replayed it just 2 years ago and I still liked it. Yes, it is a good game. You clearly have never played an MMO or anything but le ebin twitch shooters if the amount of waiting in something like Xenogeras bothers you that much.
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>>383294705
It's literally been 2 years since Dunkey put out any videos with original thought.
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>>383312174
Wow, your such a cool oldfag xD. I bet these dumb eceleb posters don't even know how to triforce! Glad you didn't give them a bump and in no way derailed the thread or anything with your non vidya post in their vidya thread!
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>>383312180
I never even considered that, but yeah, you're fucking right. Miyazakifags on /v/ can't shut the fuck up about their expertise based on watching like 5 shows. At least Miyazaki probably skimmed through some Jap tv in real time before making his large, sweeping statements.
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>>383312490
Dunkey is not part of a network and doesn't even have a Patreon
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>>383312201
sorry dude but if you have a console sell 60 million units and only 500k people buy your game on it, no one cares about your game. This has plagued Sony for years, no one buys their fucking exclusives in comparison to Xbox or Nintendo, don't bitch at me because of this. Sony has great exclusives, but they often sell poorly in comparison to the other two.
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>>383312479
People caring about it does not make it good. But he is objectively correct, and yes tonnes of people care about fifa and CoD you fucking mongoloid. Drastically moreso than W101
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>>383295621
>this thread
This entire board proves it anon. /v/ needs a purge.
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>>383302838
This looks like the biggest piece of garbage I have ever seen. Wtf is this shit and why are there people making money off of it? How retarded are the people who legitimately watch it?
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>>383294705
LOL
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>>383294705
>talking about how he hates turn based combat games
>there are two games that figured it out how to make it fun
>paper mario
>undertale

There is no difference between him and a IGN reviewer.
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>>383312143
This.
And NFL players could have a career ending injury any day in life. They clearly made bad decisions unlike me who works a safe office job.
You do realize if the whole youtube thing failed, he could just like, you know, get another job?
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>>383294705
What is the best video game console, for someone who hates and rejects all indie games, and only likes and plays AAA video games?
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>>383312479
Never ever said that. But you are actually correct for the most part. You realize that those games having more sales means way more people care about them, right? Go up to some random Arab fuck and he's not going to care about Wonderful 101. He's going to care about Fifa and MAYBE Tekken. Did I at any point say that these games are better? No, in fact, a lot of games I like are Sony exclusives. However, I am not going to delude myself and claim more people care about Under Night In Birth Exe Late [st] than Mortal Kombat just because I personally like it more and think it has better mechanics. It can be the best fucking game in existence, but what does it matter if it's just me and my 2 tranny friends saying it in some Discord chatroom?
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>>383313031
>so what did you do for the last 10 years
>i was on youtube
to be fair though they may just hire whoever just to say they have them working at their company or whatever.
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>>383313132
Xbonx.
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>>383313143
There are tonnes of jobs that would see that as an asset. Think how marketing and PR work these days.
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>>383312497
>I like watching paint dry and if you don't you're just an ADHD kid
Interesting world view. Xenogears is extremely slow paced even in comparison to other turn based RPGs. You only shit on twitch shooters because you lack the reflexes and skill to perform well and hide that behind "patience" or some other lie.
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>>383312438
sh... it's a nintendo game, can't point out its flaws because he played it when he was 12
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>>383312646
he's like 70 something so he's understandably stuck in his ways, his fans however are unbearably fucking retarded, I doubt they've ever even seen most of his works to begin with, they just here his or ghibli's name and think "oh yeah totoro, howls moving castle I love that shit"
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>>383312797
>>383312797
>sorry dude but if you have a console sell 60 million units and only 500k people buy your game on it, no one cares about your game
This is such dumb reasoning, PS4 audience is primarily dudebros, just because they dont want something that isnt shooty bang bang stuff like ND does doesnt mean people care, a game doesnt need to sell ten million units to be remembered, that's why cult-classics are a thing

>>383312804
>People caring about it does not make it good.
Neither do sales
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>>383313182
E-celebs are /v/ culture. Fuck off to Reddit if you don't like it.
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>>383313414
>neither do sales
Agreed.
But he was making the statement literally no one cares about sony exclusives. Not that they are good or bad you fucking cum dumpster.
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>>383296361
This is such a dumb argument, the fact that IGN is so mainstream is exactly why you should care. Shit games are selling more than they have any right to because someone at IGN can't keep a score consistent with their review or is too afraid to give a low score and those shit games are getting sequels and then people are copying them and suddenly every game becomes the same Ubisoft tower climbing open world trash because it's apparently what people want to play.
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>>383313561
If they fuck off, who will bump the threads?
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>>383313031
You realize that NFL players can get insurance, right? They actually can get body parts insured. Let's say someone breaks their leg. If they cash in on the insurance, they can live off of that forever, not to mention the amount of money they got from merchandise as such. Let's say Dunkey's channel goes down. You can't get that shit insured and have to manually build up all of your subs again. Furthermore, NFL players get FAR more money for their job. The reason most NFL players go bankrupt after they retire is because they're retarded and have poor money management skills.

This might be the worst analogy I've seen on /v/ in a month. Next you're going to tell me that esports where you get paid 20 dollars for the grand prize (anime fighting games) are a good career choice.
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>>383313672
>Shit games are selling more than they have any right to because
most people have shit taste and like those games. do you seriously think they'd keep buying the same games over and over again if they didn't like them? how fucking stupid are you?
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>>383313258
Are you shitting me? I'm actually quite good at games like Ketsui and Guilty Gear. It's just that not every game has to be them.
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>>383313371
Other anons pointed this out earlier in the thread and they all started ranting about his autism.
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Fuck off Dunkey Armon is GOAT.
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>>383313817
It's the "artificial fun" bullshit where people believe only the games they like are fun and that no one could possibly enjoy what they do not.
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>>383313817
No, they go to metacritic and get their shit opinion validated for them.
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>>383297701
>god-tier every time
his videos have been hit or miss for years
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>>383313710
The point, you dumb fucking retard, is that Dunkey makes more on YT, then he would another job, while most youtubers diversify their income stream for job security, i acknowledge he doesn't.
But he is still better off working yt for say 5 years than getting another job, than say just working that other job for those 5 years. Not to mention he is building a brand which holds monetary value. Dunkey in the long run won't be fucked just because his channel is taken down or something of that nature. Even if nobody watches home anymore he still would be an asset to many online vidya companies
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>>383313414
you are an idiot, 500k out of 60 million is pitiful, i never said the games were bad, but they sell like shit, hell the only reason Uncharted 4 really sold was because it was bundled with the damn console. I never said a game had to sell a shitton to be remembered either, but the fact is, the more a game sells, the more people will talk about it, i know you think that discussions about games like Fifa or call of duty don't happen because this is /v/ but they do. Are they selling well by /v/ standards? Sure, but compared to everywhere else? No, and that's a problem that Sony has had since the PS1.
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>>383313827
You know what? You're right, it's not just limited to Gears. All Xeno games are extremely slow paced. But you have to understand, Xenogears doesn't get good until at the very earliest the Gebler assault on the Yggdrasil which is like 6 or 7 hours in, so it's not unreasonable for somebody to drop it before then. It doesn't mean they have a low attention span.

Plenty of turn based RPGs get good before the five hour mark.
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>>383312763
He's partnered with Curse. Go look:
https://www.unionforgamers.com/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atCA7JWOi_0&index=3&list=PLMBTl5yXyrGQ68Ny1mXCAaSwbjpcVwm49
he played roblox ya know
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>>383307195
good music
good polish (this unironically makes bad games good)
interesting story
likeable characters
simple but addictive gameplay
Its weeb but not too weeb
its also cool, like a bond cool

its alright I guess
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>>383302838
Would've been cool without the cutesy anime girls inserted in it.
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>>383314213
That's wrong tho, Bayo2 sold like 1M and yet got super popular, Persona series are super niche and they barely reach 1M sales per installment yet are fondly remembered and get discussed for years
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>>383314214
Eh, fair enough, I can agree with that.
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>>383301819
The video game equivalent to Armond White would praise Imagine Party Babiez, and shit on DaS, and BOTW. So no
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>>383314747
Bayo 2 isn't on Sony consoles
Bayo 2 also sold 1 million on a 13 million install base, opposed to 1 million on 60m
>yet are fondly remembered and get discussed for years
I never said this wasn't the case, but it's between a much smaller group of people.
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>>383307773
yourself

listen to reviews and form an opinion
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>>383312143
You sound incredibly frustrated/angry -- which leads me to believe you failed at some point in your life and have been scared off from taking risks since. Telling people not to take risks with their career just because there's the possibility of losing it all to a horrible scenario that others saw is the stupidest, most self-defeating thing anyone can say or do -- it assumes that no planning or preparation was done in advance of achieving short and long-term goals.

Since you brought it up, I paid for my college on my own in full and never accepted a dime from the parents outside free meals when I visited them. I am now in a job I love as a television producer in a mid-sized market, making a modest but better-than-average wage to support a comfortable life for me and my family. Given the state of traditional media, my job could have very well crumbled before me-- but I'm not an idiot and have both saved money and built up universal skills in case I would be forced out of my own vocation. A lot of successful people doing this strange thing called "planning ahead for the worst case scenario" when taking calculated risks. Sounds strange, I know.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Enjoy being a risk-adverse pussy with no real goals in life, or at the very least, being so incredibly jaded that the successes of others actually makes you angry and wish for their failure. Who knows better than you, honestly, but you sure sound like an incredibly unreasonable dick about it all.
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>>383296315
what is hard then?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_worship_syndrome
>Celebrity worship syndrome (CWS) is an obsessive addictive disorder in which a person becomes overly involved with the details of a celebrity's personal and professional life.
>Evidence indicates that poor mental health is correlated with celebrity worship. Researchers have examined the relationship between celebrity worship and mental health in United Kingdom adult samples. One study found evidence to suggest that the intense-personal celebrity worship dimension was related to higher levels of depression and anxiety.[14] Similarly, another study in 2004, found that the intense-personal celebrity worship dimension was not only related to higher levels of depression and anxiety, but also higher levels of stress, negative affect, and reports of illness.
reminder that celebrity worship is a mental illness.
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>>383314971
Persona 5 sold 1.5 million copies back in April.
Bayo 2 was one of the only exclusive games that released on that platform. Playstation 4 has a ton of games to pick from.
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>>383315123
>
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>>383296201
Lol, you're unironically autistic if you can't tell, not even joking. Not being able to read and understand people is a classic symptom of being on the spectrum
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>>383315223
literally who has that
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>>383301357
His girlfriend is just as autistic as he is. Maybe more. It's actually an improbably good match.
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>>383297649
Nah it was a commentary about morality in Equestrian Dressage
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>>383315263
Again, I never said the PS4 didn't but the amount of people who own a PS4 compared to those who actually buy their games is an extreme minority, and that's honestly sad.
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>>383315223
>using Wikipedia as a source
https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism
>Autism, or autism spectrum disorder, refers to a range of conditions characterized by challenges with social skills, repetitive behaviors, speech and nonverbal communication, as well as by unique strengths and differences. We now know that there is not one autism but many types, caused by different combinations of genetic and environmental influences.

The term “spectrum” reflects the wide variation in challenges and strengths possessed by each person with autism.

Autism’s most-obvious signs tend to appear between 2 and 3 years of age. In some cases, it can be diagnosed as early as 18 months. Some developmental delays associated with autism can be identified and addressed even earlier. Autism Speaks urges parents with concerns to seek evaluation without delay, as early intervention can improve outcomes....

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misanthrope
>Definition of misanthrope
: a person who hates or distrusts humankind
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>>383315432
What is it with this argument?
A game doesn't have a built-in customer just because the platform is huge.
You need to cater to the customers to get sales. Simply being on a big platform doesn't net you any customers automatically.

Or is that your reasoning behind Uncharted 4 selling so well?
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>>383315518
>using Wikipedia as a source
are you saying it's wrong?
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>>383315693
Wikipedia is not an acceptable source for any serious citation.
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>>383302981
A newspaper has editors who can maintain journalistic consistency. IGN's editor(s) don't care.
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>>383315601
Uncharted only sold really well due to it being bundled with the console, before that it was in the 1.5m range, my argument is that the reason why no one talks about Sony exclusives outside of /v/ is because they sell like shit, because only a minority of PS4 owners actually buy the damn exclusives, this is in direct contrast to both Xbox and Nintendo where large chunks of their fanbase buy their exclusives. I'm not saying games that sell poorly will be forgotten, merely that you won't find frequent discussions for them outside of /v/. It's honestly a shame, there are tons of good PS exclusives, but many people miss out on them.
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>>383311298
>smug anime reaction pic
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>>383315808
This advice was given in the days when Wikipedia could be edited by anyone, and thus anybody could make an article inaccurate.
Now Wikipedia has a legion of moderators, and protective systems in place.
/v/ isn't an academic establishment, genius.
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>>383315808
But Wikipedia is heavily moderated now for fact checking.
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>/v/ assblasted because he dissed anime
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>>383294705
We
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>>383296319
>Likes cinematic movie games
>Plays primarily on PC
>Generally shits on their anti-youtuber practices
I don't know at what point you cross the line from reasonable person to Nintendo fanboy here on /v/. I think it's over once you acknowledge Breath of the Wild is actually a great game with level design and interactivity that has set the standard for future open world games. Chiefly, having level design at all.
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>>383316326
Also, Wiki contains citations on the bottom part of the page. I always start my essays with those citations.
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>>383316036
But you are wrong. It is only on /v/ that these games get infrequent discussion. If you actually look at the amount of people that talk about those games on youtube or other social media you would see you are completely wrong.
Uncharted 4 in the 1.5m range? Think again nigger. The game sold 2.6m in 1 week.
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>>383306139
His point is that establishing a Norm is important because then the RARE deviancy from that norm can be recognized as noteworthy. If, in the case of IGN, deviancy IS the norm, then nothing can be recognized as noteworthy.
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>>383316489
>interactivity that has set the standard
half-life 2 bled the physics gimmick dry in 2004.
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>>383316326
You still can't use it as a source in an article, paper, essay, book, or any other form of professional document. Wikipedia is not a respected source.

Not that someone of your intellect would be anywhere near any sort of MLA, APA, or similarly formatted paper.
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People still use gaming review websites?
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>>383306964
I don't think he can anymore.
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>MY SCALE ONLY GOES TO 5 IF ITS A S GOOD AS MARIO 64

Fuck Nintenbros, I hate these faggots worst reviewers. Mario 64 is great but these faggots played it when they were 4. Thats why you still think its the only masterpiece. This and Ocarina are overrated as fuck.
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>>383316665
>>383316342
>>383316326
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_Wikipedia

Wikipedia itself tells you that it's a bad idea.
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>>383316831
>posts on /v/
>professional document
you realize there's a massive list of cited sources at the bottom of the article? if you're this autismo about it go dig through them.
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>>383294705


he's right though.

at the most extreme you have some people on xbox magazine that basically review from Anitas playbook and dock point off games that have good looking females. what audience is she even writing for?
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>>383317016
He'll just discard those as well. Look at how often /v/ criticizes "fake news" if it's from a site they've never heard of.
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>>383317016
But that's not citing Wikipedia. That's citing a source that was cited on Wikipedia.

Why didn't you go to one of the sources on the Celebrity Syndrome page and link that instead?
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>>383316742
well my bad I didn't have the sales pulled up immediately, I was making an educated guess based on older games in the series.
And no i'm not wrong, I never said that you wouldn't find discussion outside of /v/, I merely said that it was infrequent in comparison to something that sells much more, if you really want perpetual discussion you can either go to /vg/ or that other website I won't name.
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>>383295543
He already took a shit all over Microsoft and they didn't do shit. Ign isn't tougher than them.
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>>383315271
isn't that the dark souls of games?
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>>383316973
>mobile
it all makes sense now. The dumb mobile poster is just getting out of high school and thinks he knows more than anyone else.
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>>383309980
Dunkey is none of those things.
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>>383316395
Not really. He just has shit taste in anime, whatever.
He mentions in the very video that you don't have to agree with a reviewer on everything.
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>>383317340
/v/ is too used to the opinions = facts reviewers that believe their kneejerk reactions are supposed to be taken seriously, see Razorfist.
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>>383309897
He didn't give a sweeping positive review of Naruto either, faggot
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we have literally known this shit for years, he's a little late to the fucking party
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Why are e-celebs allowed to shill their shit here?
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>>383317261
But he's right, though. You can't cite Wikipedia itself, as the anon he replied to did. Even the site itself tells you not to. Wikipedia is not an accepted source, but you can use the sources at the bottom if they are actual pages of merit, but that's not what the first anon did.
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>>383317434
/v/ is too used to opinions = facts as a concept.
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>>383294705
if he didnt talk like such a faggot maybe id listen to what he has to say
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>>383315123
Wizardry 4
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>>383317171
because there's no reason to? for the purpose of my post a simple summary of the topic was enough.
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>>383317261
You forgot to post the part of your argument where you actually argue against what I'm saying.
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>>383303653
Nausicaa and Mononoke are his absolute best works forever so youre pretty much cheating,nothing he has done really compares to those 2 monsters
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>>383317571
Well to be fair, most of them do it themselves. They think that if someone simply doesn't like something, that means they hate everyone that likes it and everything about the person.

Sadly, this is largely projection as many posters here feel this way unironically and have bought into the fanboyism meme and go to war over consoles or whatever.
>>
Dunkey is one of those casual gamers that are only popular due to their "humor" that mislead themselves into thinking that their popularity gives their opinions on games some merit.

In reality, all they're doing is leading their significantly more casual fanbase towards games that they won't like but will pretend to like because their idol likes them.
When a popular youtube "eceleb" promotes an obscure game, they turn the game's fanbase into a group of people that either constantly parrots the eceleb's opinion or dislikes the very core of the game to begin with.
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>>383317484
It's a subversive slide thread so that Crying Wojak Thread # 383317710 isn't on the front page. Very dastardly.
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>>383296201
Damn how slow do you have to be?
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>>383317615
Ok, but then why are you saying Wikipedia can be used as a source but not giving an example of using it as a source? That's using it as an index.
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>>383317458
To be fair, Naruto is a very bad example of that sort of story, given how development is handled for many of them.
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>>383313710
Most actually successful esports players are sitting on engineering degrees and shit like that. They have the drive that allows them to actually put the effort and time in every activity.
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>>383303117
Because all the good games are either on PC or Nintendo.
Xbox has meh games and PS only has shitty remasters and the shit weeb games that aren't on PC
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>>383295690
I think he's more just trying to open peoples eyes to the fact that these review sites aren't even doing their jobs correctly. There is no roger ebert of vidya that's so well known you can trust them to be partial, which is fair, and a lot of people wouldn't know otherwise if they just go to IGN and don't think twice about whether or not IGN is getting paid to give some good review or not.
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>>383312350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IEBiIm63BQ&t=2188s
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>>383317761
>but then why are you saying Wikipedia can be used as a source but not giving an example of using it as a source?
if you go back and look through my posts at no point did i ever say that.
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>>383317816
>and the shit weeb games that aren't on PC
Like Bloodborne right?
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>>383317813
Yes, I am aware of this. I know some of these people personally. I'm saying that solely focusing on esports and having no actual job to pay for travel and such is just straight up stupid.
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>>383301448
Redline is an amazing action movie. I hate anime but I can't deny how great this movie is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t26m_Q6ENo
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>>383294705
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>>383317956
>Using Wikipedia as a source
>b-but you can, though!
>No you can't and here's why:
>Yeah, well you can use the links at the bottom!
>That's not the same.
>N-no, you misunderstood me!
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>>383295690
>uhhhh no shit?
Congrats, you're old enough to realize that youtubers will never really show you something new about the world or explain a problem you could not have explained to yourself after a 15 minute study.
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E-celeb shit should be banned from /v/ as it is a proven fact that the only people that care about them are underage
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>>383301604
because that is what an accent is?
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>>383304267
Nausicaa(manga) is on the same level as Devilman though,and superior to anything done by Tezuka
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>>383318302
>Proven fact
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>>383318143
>b-but you can, though!
never said that.
>Yeah, well you can use the links at the bottom!
i said that since you were having an autism fit over sources there were several included with the article i linked.
>N-no, you misunderstood me!
it is a fact that i didn't do the thing you very specifically accused me of doing.
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I'm glad the mods finally fucked off and realized these type of threads are allowed on /v/
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>>383318342
I honestly like Phoenix a bit more than it. On that note, is there a particular quirk to Tezuka's works in general you don't care for?
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>w-w-ww-wah wah wah e-celeb threads no no
>dunkey thread, bump limit 500 replies

Jesus christ
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>>383300456
To be fair, that's really more where his mother went wrong.
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>>383318342
>Nausicaa(manga) is on the same level as Devilman
Maybe if it came 10 years earlier, but Devilman was fucking groundbreaking for the time, even with the Mao Dante bits removed.
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>>383318648
>never said that
You're entire argument revolves around saying that
>I said...
You're the one having an autism fit. I'M just correcting your improper use of citation so that when you finally graduate Elementary School you won't have a hard time in English II.
>It is a fact
Can I see the Wikipedia citation where denying something occurred means it didn't?
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>>383318648
Give it up, man. You're being fake news right now. You fucked up, learn from it. This is embarrassing.
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>>383318924
>You're the one having an autism fit.
all i did was copy/paste some lines from a wikipedia article and include the article that i took those lines from, you're the one who went on a tangent about sources and proper citation.
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>>383318320
I thought Americans sounding like that was just a meme. They actually speak this way? Holy shit.
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>>383319128
You've got one reply for every one I do, anon. I'm trying to teach you not to be a dumbass.
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>>383295026
Cry harder, grandpa.

The future is now, old man. IF you cannot handle underage posters or just hate these trendy e-celebs then just hide the thread and go about your day feeding the pigeons at the park, or whatever the fuck your old ass bag of bones does nowadays.
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>>383319201
Rent free
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>>383319279
>you said wikipedia is a source
>no i didn't
>yes you did here is a tl;dr blog post on why wikipedia is not a source
i never called it a source
:^)
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>>383294705
E CELEB THREADS MUST BE PURGED
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>>383306152
You're making the right choice. Hamshit is annoying in every form, but especially anime.
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>>383319430
You used it as a source, defended it (poorly) when I called you out on it, and then denied you did it. Congratulations, you're an idiot and a liar. You're only outsmarting yourself.
8=)
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>>383319397
how's that circumcision scar holding up, John Wayne cowboy?
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>>383319641
nowhere did i use the word source B^U
but please enlighten me on how to copy quotes from an article based on other sources without inciting an autism frenzy
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>>383319430
>using wikipedia as a source
>not autistic
ebin
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>>383319659
Nothing better to do than to obsess over America?
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