Developers abandoning Nintendo in droves.

>>383260251
HEEEEELLLL YEAAAHH SONY WINS AGAIN!

>>383260251
>This keeps on happening.
Go look at what happened on the NES and you have your answer. This is nothing new for Nintendo.

Because Nintendo is phasing out their handhelds, and their home console for the third time in a row is underpowered and for the second time not even a half step from the last system.

>>383260251
retard news, MH World IS the MH5, it was confirmed by the creators

>>383260251
Citation Needed

who the fuck wants to play game on a tiny ass screen or on a 720p TV at 30 fps? Third party support on Nintendo is non existent, nobody wants to be in affairs with a shit company, that's why they keep reashing the same IPs every year. Nintendo innovation my dick, all gimmick trash for kids.

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>>383260501
>People still believe the Switch isn't a handheld

>>383260601
Look at the date, retard.

>>383260676
>who the fuck wants to play game on a tiny ass screen or on a 720p TV at 30 fps
Kind of makes you wonder why 720/30 multiplats are so popular then.

>>383260251
Ports are difficult with Nintendo. The Switch is so underpowered that either games have to be built specifically for it, or the devs have to be wizards at optimization (relatively, most devs are script monkeys). In a way, it makes sense. Nintendo can secure a customer base by forcing devs to make exclusives for it. The Switch will probably get its share of exclusive gems like the wii and to a lesser extent the wii u.

>>383260251
Because they have less fear of overtly cannibalizing their market. So they can get away with double dipping the franchise.

It also lets them craft a single, new consumer image of the series in the West.

As to why it isn't on the switch, well the switch can't handle it without a graphical or functional downgrade that they deemed unacceptable, of course.

>>383260251
Nintendo exists in a vacuum of itself and the most brain-dead knuckle dragging man-baby fans who will throw money at whatever stupid shit they fart out. Nintendo is fine because the morons who support their greedy practices and mediocre games will suckle at the teet until they die of old age.

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>>383260251
>Even after it was proven to be wrong, niggers are still trying to spread this fake rumor
Get over it, its multiplat, AND the PS4 version is the worst version

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>Buying Nintendo consoles
>Expecting non-nintendo games
This has gone on since the N64 unchanged at this point. The shitposters and the Switch early adopters are both retarded for being surprised that 3rd party support is playing out EXACTLY as bad as it has since the 5th generation. The reason that the Switch is so retarded is that they brought this problem that their consoles have had to their handheld market which hasn't had the same issue.

You people don't understand how thoroughly Yamauchi's actions poisoned Nintendo's relationships in the gaming industry. There's a reason the devs that do work with them are like 90% post SNES.

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From the voices of real third party devs:

>Nintendo Switch's ARM CPU isn't powerful enough to handle our games vision. We would have to downgrade how many enemies visible on screen, reduce draw distance for usable objects, and tone down how much spell effects that are displayed at once.

>Nintendos publishing policy for the Switch is more restrictive than Steam or PS4. The licensing fees are higher if you want to make a physical or digital release, there are certain quality assurance meddling that Nintendo does which delays our games, and they don't give us as much developer support or marketing support as other competitors.

>We would love to make games for the Switch, however we fear that they will not sell as well like on other platforms. Nintendo consumers tend to prefer first party games over third party games, this is especially true if any third party game launches near the same date as a Nintendo title. So we must delay our games to avoid that competition or hope that Nintendo has enough consumers that are interested in third party on their console than PS4 or Xbox One.

>>383260251
But people told me that this was MH5

>>383260851
>well the switch can't handle it without a graphical or functional downgrade that they deemed unacceptable, of course.
it runs on MT Framework, that fucking thing can run on netbooks

What's probably really happening is the Switch is getting a new Monster Hunter Portable title, gotta rehash those assets somehow

>>383260251
Capcom just wants to popularze the series in the west. They talked about it months ago, how they believe that MH series sales and popularity are stale in the west due to not being on home system.
All of you people are retarded. And PS4 is still quite popular in Japan as well, not as much as handhelds, but still, it's killing two birds with one stone.

>>383260251
Am I the only one afraid for the online with MHW? Japanese games don't tend to last long online on the PC, so I'm afraid the community will be dead in a month without crossplay.

>>383260696
>Switch is shit as a console
>"It's a handheld"
>Switch is shit as a handheld
"It's a console"
Maybe, just maybe, it's just shit all around.

>>383260928
>This has gone on since the N64 unchanged at this point.
Uh, the only systems without it are the 64 and Wii U dude. The Wii had third party support but all of the big names just made lazy shit which is where the meme of "no one buys third party on Nintendo" comes from.

Todd Howard will save Nintendo with The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

>>383260934
>From the voices of real third party devs
Yeah fucking right

>>383260696
>company literally calls it a home console and stresses that it's a home console
>but it's a handheld because it fits my agenda, even though it's a shitty handheld too

>>383260251
>Developers abandoning Nintendo in droves.
Can't abandon what you never supported in the first place.

lol, once Pokemon is on it, it's over. Switch will double its sales in one day

inb4 haha it goes from 4 Switches to 8 haha

>MH series sold the most copy on the 3ds
>implying capcom would risk making their baby exclusive to a system like the ps4 when sony hasn't proven a damn thing
I give credit that the ps4 has a massive install base, but so does the 3ds, and soon to be switch.

>>383261038
>all of /v/ is one person

>>383261092
The gamecube has the failed capcom exclusivity deal and nothing else. Wii is the literal embodiment of Nintendo games and fuck all else.

Stop being retarded. We all knew exactly how the Switch was going to pan out. All Nintendo with a weird smattering of early third party suppoort

because nintendo wants to sell gimmicks rather than modern games with modern services.

>4/27/17
Meanwhile in THE FUTURE Monster Hunter is on three platforms.

>>383261028
>due to not being on home system.
MH went to consoles with the Wii U, Wii and PS3. No one wanted it.

>And PS4 is still quite popular in Japan
Nips don't even want MHW on it.

>>383261117
>believing PR lies
And thats how you know when you've fucked up in life

>>383261156
we are not talking about that you retard, third party support is still shit.

>>383261303
>And that's how you know when you've fucked up in life
When you're shitposting on a board about children's digital toys?

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>Mfw Capcom would never go full PS4 exclusive because of that horrendous attachment rate on even it's most popular games.

>>383260934
Damn, no wonder third party hates Nintendo. They're still butt hurt after the Wii U

>>383261241
Whats funny is this rumor is literally not true

This wojak fucked up the most basic thing

>>383261258
>The gamecube has the failed capcom exclusivity deal and nothing else. Wii is the literal embodiment of Nintendo games and fuck all else.
So what you're saying is that third party support doesn't matter unless it helps your argument.

>>383260934
>Nintendos publishing policy for the Switch is more restrictive than Steam or PS4. The licensing fees are higher if you want to make a physical or digital release

This right here.

This right here is what has fucked them ever since their NES days. It fucked them during their SNES days, it fucked them during their N64 days, it fucked them during their Virtual Boy* days, GameCube, not so much Wii because they actually relaxed it for a change, but then they turned around and fucked themselves again for Wii U. And now they act surprised when it fucks them during Switch days.

*-On a minor scale. Their hardware fucked themselves with this one.

>>383260837
Because you can't get 1080/60 on a Switch or anything that Nintendo limps into the barn with.

>Wii U has no games and is the weakest console on the market
>Retards buy it in droves for the first year until the hype dies
>Switch has no games and is the weakest console on the market
>Nintendo try to damage control by porting every Wii U game on the Switch, only exclusive being Arms
I really wonder why people don't want to work on it

>>383261163
>sony hasn't proven a damn thing
No 3DS MH sold as much as P3rd did on the PSP.

>>383261387
If they were worried about attach rate they'd make stuff on the Vita.

The game might as well have been PS4 exclusive, the PC and Xbox won't have anyone online a year after launch.

>>383261456
The Switch funnily enough promotes it more than other systems.

>>383260934
So post the citation if these are real. Post the citation so I can call these shitty developers out when there are faggots that are making full fledged FPS games fit into 512mb of data.

>>383260251
Because the PS4 is the second coming of the PS2 with an incredibly large and diverse playerbase that buy a diverse amount of games.

Meanwhile the only people buying a Switch are children and man-children who only want to BING BING WAHOO.

>>383260934
/thread

>>383261573
So, this is the power of literal autism.

>>383261503
Well they sold like 1 mil less but that's due to the fact that the 3ds games didn't have two additional rereleases of the same game like p3rd and FU.

>>383261556
>Sony
>Making stuff
>Not hiring other people and contracting, etc
When was the last time SONY made a worthwhile game for the playstation 4? Maybe Gravity Rush 2 and thats it?

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>>383261569
>with an incredibly large and diverse playerbase that buy a diverse amount of games
>PS4

>>383261117
>>but it's a handheld because it fits my agenda, even though it's a shitty handheld too

dude its literally a weak piece of shit BECAUSE of the handheld functionality, how fucking delusional can you be?

>>383260934
Isn't that the interview with the Titanfall developer? The guys who think it's a splendid idea to work closely with EA even though they know what happened to other studios before them?

>>383261693
>Maybe Gravity Rush 2
>GR2
>good

>>383261472
>Splatoon 2.

>>383261693
You're not very bright are you?

>>383261387
>Mfw Capcom would never go full PS4 exclusive because of that horrendous attachment rate on even it's most popular games.

Capcom isn't Sony you retarded mother fuck.

>>383261302
>MH went to consoles with the Wii U
A failed console no one bought and a port of Wii game.
>Wii
Console bought almost exclusively by Nintendo fans and casuals
>PS3
HD version of PSP game and it never came out in the west, because Sony didn't allow Capcom.
>Nips don't even want MHW on it.
Yet it's still going to sell buttloads. It's the Japanese CoD.

>>383261693
Gran Turismo PS4

>>383261792
Didn't know Splatoon 2 was out

>>383261696
They buy either FIFA, Madden or the new CoD.

That's three games already, which is a lot for Sony's longtime fanboys, so they count it as diverse.

>>383261683
>that's due to the fact that the 3ds games didn't have two additional rereleases of the same game like p3rd and FU.
You gotta be kidding me, then again, this is Nintendogaf.

i member when nintenkiddies were in denial after the rumor of mh5 on ps4 started

>>383261569
>with an incredibly large and diverse playerbase that buy a diverse amount of games.
>userbase that only buys yearly fifa and fps games along with cinematic shit like uncharted and last of us
>diverse amount of games
Globalization was a mistake

>>383260696
Nintendo themselves said it wasn't.

>>383260703
>Also on Xbox and PC

>>383260251
Ah yes Capcom a company always ahead of the curve. Surely this is a sign of things to come

>>383261683

P3rd has one release, on the PSP. It had a HD remaster much much later on, but that sold far less. It's the PSP release that has sold the most in the franchise.

Meanwhile Tri has 4 releases.

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>>383261673
(You)

>>383260934
Damn shame Respawn will be swallowed whole by EA for Titanfall 2 not meeting expectations.

>>383261943
Doesn't disapprove my point.

>>383261726
Dude, I know that. But there are other factors which make it shit as a handheld than power, which makes the whole thing ultimately a waste, since it does neither role well.

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Nintendo is third-party poison. They hate games as medium. They just want to maximize their profits even if it hurts the industry by cutting out other devs.

Nintendo is extremely hated by third-parties. If you would only know what liberation Sony brought them with the PSX. It was like going from slavery to liberalism.

>>383260251
>the only reason World is on bone might be because of Spencer's last trip to Japan

The ps4 exclusivity might have been true

>>383260934
This.
Nintendo sucks at third party relations unless they pay for their exclusivity (Platinum Games)

>>383261573
>>383261818
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1UrRgJXBteg

>>383261449

No, he's saying that the third party support for those consoles was not adequate. I would absolutely agree, as someone who chose a Wii over a PS3/360, hated it and refuse to buy a Nintendo console again until they get their shit together.

They haven't

>>383261831
>Console bought almost exclusively by Nintendo fans and casuals
this damage control is hilarous

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Based Capcom is totally loyal to Xbox. We won't forget them when the time comes.

>>383261831
>It's the Japanese CoD.
On handhelds.
You might want to check the sales of every console MH

>>383260934
>Nintendo consumers tend to prefer first party games over third party games, this is especially true if any third party game launches near the same date as a Nintendo title. So we must delay our games to avoid that competition

Hit the nail right on the head

>>383262083
>tfw I bought a Wii for Brawl and it was shit

>>383262135
Prove me wrong. People in the west bought Wii for Mario, Zelda and motion controlled party games.

>>383261878
Okay? Point to what wasn't true in that post.

>>383262279
900 million software sales isn't bad for it if that's the case

>>383261729
The titanfall literally said "FUCK NO" when asked if he was going to develop on the Switch.

>>383262216
>1.9 million Tri on Wii alone
And most of this is Japan alone. And ever since the series only got more and more popular.

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>>383262234
Do you even have fun while playing games or you own PS4 just to shitpost?

>>383260501

"Third pillar".

>>383261573
>Dead irrelevant weebshit. Stop damage controlling
Wut?

>>383262430
Amy looked Sonic dead in the eyes. "If you don't tell me the truth right now, I'm gonna shatter your jewels." She grabbed his testicles.

Sonic knew what he had to do. He looked his pink love in the eyes, and told her the one truth he'd never told her before.

"Hi, Gonna shatter your jewels, I'm Sonic."

Nintendo Switch is a family/kid oriented console. No sane third party dev would release their M rated game on it.

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>>383261943
What, is something wrong?

>>383260934
>there are certain quality assurance meddling that Nintendo does which delays our games,
Our games can't be shipped in an unplayable state? NINTENDO!

>>383262591
the handheld ones still sold more before that

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Because the initial wave of Nintendo fanboys who buy every Nintendo toy has already dried up.

The developers notice this and don't want to waste their time on a "slightly less disasterous Wii U".

>>383261569
The PS4 is Sony's worst PlayStation

>>383261964
>Meanwhile Tri has 4 releases.
Uh what?
Tri only had one release anon.
We're talking about games that are exactly the same like the multiple iterations of FU not the various G expansions, pay attention.

With that said you're right about P3rd having one single PSP release but in that case it barely sold over the 3DS versions seeing as X, 4U and 4 are directly behind it on Capcom's own site.

>>383262920
The sales are pretty bad. It's smart though how even Nintendo saw this in advance and decided to ship just as much as was demanded so they'll trick investors that there's big demand. I wonder if they fall for it.

>>383262778
And Capcom is well known for gambling. Because they tried something different with Resident Evil 4, they made Devil May Cry, which is one their best selling franchises and RE4 itself, which made the series a bigger hit than they could imagine. Now they're doing it once again with Resident Evil and Monster Hunter.

>>383262850
''The graphics are awesome on Wii U and on PC, THEY KICK ASS!'' Knuckles shouted, loudly.

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>captcha
>cat furniture

I don't even

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>>383260934
>real third party devs

>>383260251
>give switch a MH port; had put a bunch of shit on 3ds already
>abandoning it

???

>>383262989
>completely ignores what eventually happened to those series
Baaad examples anon

>>383261408
You mean literally true? MHW is on ps4 and not on switch

>>383260696

2 hours battery life isn't a handheld to me

Its not as serious as OP makes it out to be. There's a little bit of trouble over the higher cost of the switch's cartridges is all.

>>383262553
Yes, but what does that have to do with the inevitable shutdown by EA?

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>>383262920
>VGChartz
>That filename
I guess you got tired of your topics getting deleted huh?

>/v/ has been shitting on nintendo for 10 years straight now
>/v/ has claimed for more than 3500 days that the company is doomed, that nobody develops for them and that it has no future
>In that time it has made way more bank than any of the other 2 and keeps being able to do whatever in the fuck they want

When are you going to get tired of being fucking wrong

>>383263135
It didn't worked out once. Their "gambling" game still gave more profits.

>>383263135
>>completely ignores what eventually happened to those series

This is dumb. I mean, this is like saying Indiana Jones wasn't worth making

>>383262591
>1.9 million Tri on Wii alone
You do realise that Tri is on one of the most popular systems to date right?
And at that point Monster Hunter had already become one of Capcom's bigger selling IPs by that point right?

>And ever since the series only got more and more popular.
On handhelds.
3U on Wii U didn't even cross 1 mil. Whereas on 3D is made a solid 2.

You're really not getting this are you.

>>383263276
A wax doll of Bugs Bunny then materialized itself into Brendan Fraser's six-fingered hands. "B-Bugs-senpai…" Tears of joy began to stream

>>383263156
>MHW is not PS4 exclusive
nice try faggot

>>383263254
>When are you going to be tired of being wrong
Those same people have moved on. It's nothing but newfags that think they need to keep up some tradition of being /v/ermin.

>>383260251
>pic from 27 april
> no relevant new info
>IT KEEPS HAPPENING
op confirmed a subhuman niggershit console retard

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>>383260676
Imagine being this mad at a game company. What an immature brat.

>>383263273
>once
I think you mean "about 4 times"
Four times Capcom has tried westernizing a franchise and they all ended in disaster

>>383263135
They consistently sold better than almost every series Capcom has ever made?

>>383260251
If they were abandoning nintendo then they wouldn't be supporting the switch with XX

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>>383260934
FFXIV director wants to make his game for Switch but he thinks that the hardware sucks.

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>>383260934
>Nintendo consumers tend to prefer first party games over third party games, this is especially true if any third party game launches near the same date as a Nintendo title.

No shit. I wonder why?

>>383263459
I think you mean "turned to shit"

>>383263459
>They consistently sold better than almost every series Capcom has ever made?
They flopped, hard.

>>383261008

So you're saying the Switch is a port system with devs "switching" their assets from older systems to the slightly more powerful Switch?

>>383263453
>lol u mad
what i said is just the truth

>>383263690
I might be a silly troll, but I use my trolling for good against scum like you. Back off, buddy. You don't want to mess with us

>>383263719
What truth?

>>383260934
>they don't give us as much developer support or marketing support as other competitors.

wait wait wait, you're telling me it's the fault of nintendo when a third party company doesn't program their own game or market it?
so nintendo has to their job for them?

>>383263628
why would anyone buy third party on nintendo consoles when they're guaranteed to have worse online and less features than PS4 or Xbone

>>383262218
>hit the nail right on the head

>literally flatout admitting your game can never compete with Nintendo's quality and sales wise so you delay finish games after everbody played them already on PC

Who ever said this bullshit, obviously was thinking clearly.

It also doesn't help these retards don't understand that you shouldn't release your game so fucking close to one of Nintendo's popular titles of one of their long running series if you're releasing on their system. Also , he would also have problems with other big named thirdparty devs and their long running popular series eating up the sales of other big name games and lesser know, less popular third party games. Its literally not okay because its a Nintendo game eating up their sales.

Nintendo don't have any pattern recognition. Every home console generation since the SNES they've released hardware that is either underpowered or has a weird quirk that drives away third parties and then seem surprised when sales drop.

Less games = less sales

It's not hard Nintendo

>>383263908
Nintendo is known to have poor SDKs and they don't offer marketing support like Steam does for their marketplace.

>>383263942
The real question is why would third party developers purposely announce and make a game they have no intention supporting fully instead of making a game more suitable for it using a B team or something?
It's because western third parties are lazy, if they can't do everything on the cheap and quickly for maximum profit then they'll just abandon people who want to play their games

AAA is dead
PC gaming is mmo and dudebro shooters
nintendo are 5d chess and appealing to 3rd party mobile game developers who will have the capitol for future game titles.
games suck now, get over it, we all lost

>>383263908
>>>383260934
>>they don't give us as much developer support or marketing support as other competitors.
>wait wait wait, you're telling me it's the fault of nintendo when a third party company doesn't program their own game or market it?
>so nintendo has to their job for them?

Yes if you didn't know Sony and Microsoft pay to have games on their system. Big AAA don't even market their own games anymore been like that since 7th gen.

Nintendo doesn't think they should have to advertise the game for them. Putting up a lil eShop trailer cost nothing to showcase games. But third party companies literally want everything done for them with minimum effort.

This is what these companies invest now getting advertising rights for games to make normal fags consumers think it's exclusive to the system see destiny and eat games.

>>383260251
>because Nintendo chose to go for a weak system?
yes

>>383260251
>This keeps on happening.

Really? Let's have some more examples.

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>>383260934

>>383264207
>and they don't offer marketing support like Steam does for their marketplace
Except they do that all the time? You don't think the marketing for Monster Hunter was paid for by Capcom themselves do you?

>>383263690
>P-Paid reviews!

Top kek. The tinfoil hat crew never fail to make me chuckle.

>>383263683
Not really

>>383260251
Didn't the Disgaea developer literally just confirm that it's very likely their next game will be on Switch?

>>383264187
But sales are not dropping.
They have released a fair few systems since the SNES that sold better than that.

Because Nintendo fans don't buy games unless there made by Nintendo or associated with Nintendo

Like me

>>383264389
You're validating him by giving him a serious response at all.

>>383261573
Didn't the last pokemon game sell like 15 million? And its exclusive to one console/handheld.

>>383264328
>square
a company that made a movie that nearly destroyed them and were saved by enix

>>383263719
>Nintendo are a shit company
>that's why they keep reashing the same IPs every year.

Christ you might be most assblasted kiddie on the whole board. Seething with rage at a video game company. Hilarious.

>>383264187
*Third party don't have any pattern recognition

Nintendo is the one making money, not Sony.
Nintendo has planned out what they planned to release and at what time on their system, meanwhile Sony has to gamble on whatever and whenever thirdparty releases

>>383263690
>The Shitch is a confirmed commercial flop at this point.

This point is factually indefensible.

>>383262008
Respawn owns all the rights to Titanfall 2.

>>383264546
Just about every mainline Pokemon game sells in the 10-15 mil range.

>>383264361
exclusivity deals are a completely different story. capcom let nintendo handle monster hunter 3ds publishing and marketing in europe entirely.

meanwhile Steam lets the developer self publish, the developer has full control over sale pricing and their steam game forum, developers can easily track game statistics and sale analytics, steam has curators which literally shill your games to consumers. steam does a lot more for the benefit of the developer than nintendo does.

>>383261038
How is it shit as a handheld?

Oh, if your answer has the word "pocket" in it, you lose.

>>383264292
they could ask for nintendo's help in market liek they have done before for MH,DQ ad other titles.
Westerns are pretty much lazy as fuck and their projects are always so "big" that can only churn like one game every 2 years. Instead of making a big game and several small ones like most japanese do.

>>383264661
>disc sizes.
So, zero?
Even that Burnout 3 dev basically admitted they were incompetent.

>>383263690
>The Shitch

Actually 12 years old. How embarrassing.

>>383263690
Barney fag, please fuck off.

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>>383264612
Not my fault you play games for children anon.

>>383264661
> but ultimately ported them over to PS2 for additional features
and worse performnace

>>383264852
>nothing but weeb shit with a random sports game thrown in

>>383264809
That's nice, now go back to playing your Pii U.

>>383264661
>Capcom made exclusives on GameCube but ultimately ported them over to PS2 for additional features

Resident Evil 4 is better on GameCube. It was true then, and it's true now.

>>383264612
>FFVIIR
Ha, maybe in 2020.

>>383262026
>They just want to maximize their profits even if it hurts the industry
This is every company though

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>>383263690
>>383264546
Top 3 out of 4 selling 3ds games is Pokemon

It's bigger than any Sony 1st party game.

>>383264661
>Ignoring all those ports on gamecube which had superior graphical quality and content
>Calls other people underageb&
This board has become a parody of neogaf.

>>383260251
Rumor
It's literally nothing

>>383264852
>calling those children's games
>while posting games so basic only children will enjoy

>>383264852
>GR2
>tales
>person5
>not for children

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>>383264971
>grew up with Sonic Heroes on PS2
>recently bought it on GC
It was like playing an entirely different game

>>383264960

That's about as impressive as CoD sales figures anon. Show us something that's not casual tripe please.

>>383265126
>That's about as impressive as CoD sales figures anon
You're right, but the difference is that Pokemon is exclusive CoD is a multiplat.

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It's ok when I do it.
I'm a fucking madman, ask me anything.

>>383264805
CDs held far more data than cartridges when the N64 was released, and they were far cheaper to produce than cartridges. Developers all over the world expressed frustration with Nintendo when they announced the N64 would be using carts instead of discs. The N64 using cartridges is literally the reason Square switched from Nintendo to Sony for Final Fantasy VII.

>>383260251
Never really considered Nintendo as a 3rd party console. (which explains why I haven't owned any of their products since the early to mid 90's.)

Nothing new here.

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I absolutely fucking love how Nintendo exists as an unfathomable enigma to the clueless kiddies of /v/.

Watching the faces of the young, uneducated faggots here contort in anger, confusion and jealousy as Nintendo stand resolute as an unshakeable behemoth in the video game landscape, continually receiving an outpouring of adulation, respec and success. Seeing you foam at the mouth with rage and incredulity fills me with an endless joy.

>>383264960
sony doesnt have good first party except for maybe uncharted and that shit needs to be bundled to "sell" a lot.
Sony just like Microsoft cant survive on first party they just suck at it. Thats why they have to listen to 3rd árty most stupid request and let them do whatever shit scam they want.

A shame but thats how the industry developed instead of console manufactureres having control of what is being published is big AAA companies that dicattes the rules.

>>383264770
>>>383264292 (You)
>they could ask for nintendo's help in market liek they have done before for MH,DQ ad other titles.
>Westerns are pretty much lazy as fuck and their projects are always so "big" that can only churn like one game every 2 years. Instead of making a big game and several small ones like most japanese do.

They could the problem with western developers mostly everyone trying to make next Hollywood movie. I think only Ubisoft from time to time will make some experimental low budget title like child of light. I wouldn't be surprised if most western companies are trying to break even instead of making small projects that will keep them a float.

>>383260251
It's because of >>383260934

>>383265249

Ya Nintendo's glory days are far behind them at this point. Kinda sad when you look back at the NES with all its third party support then you take a closer look at the SNES to see the quality slowly starting to dip in the overall library until we get to our current state with the Switch and infinite ports.

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>>383264907
>>383265017
>>383265112
Sad.

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>he bought a switch to play third-party games
Nobody does that. If you do, you are retarded. I bought a switch to play Mario and zelda, cuz you can't play it on any other console
>inb4 cemu

>>383265232
So, zero.
Because just about every developer who complained complained more that they couldn't fit their pre rendered cutscenes in more than anything else.

Basically it's misguided development.

>>383265116
Wait, I wasn't aware of Sonic Heroes having differences.

>>383265126
Cod is multiplatform. Pokemon is on system. A 240p game that has a way smaller budget than these AAA games. Is destroying them in sales lol

>>383263341

Where did the tweet use the word "exclusive"?

>>383265487
Why are you ignoring the part about FFVII?

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>>383265428
fixed

>>383260934
>We would love to make games for the Switch
They don't though, hense why they call themselves "real third party"

The only 3rd party worth a damn is Platinum

>>383265427
> infinite ports
thats pretty much all consoles now. Like half anouncements nowdays are ports,remakes or remasters or multiplats with pc.
thats the state of console gaming nowdays, gamers are getting older, no new blood is coming and software sells are less even tough the arket is "bigger"

>>383265428
How does this make sense when BotW was a release title?

>>383265497
Sonic Heroes on PS2 had worse loading times, worse textures, and the framerate dropped frequently.

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>>383265506
>This straw grasping

>>383265550
>more that they couldn't fit their pre rendered cutscenes in more than anything else.
FFVII falls under that. If I remember right you needed to switch discs solely due to the cutscenes.
If they didn't exist it would all fit on one disc.

>>383265428
>HZD
>Monster Hunter: HZD edition
>Nier

Kek, am I supposed to feel bad or something?

>>383260251
>in droves
>one game

k

Wow there's a lot of debate here.

To be honest I'm just surprised MHWorld is also on the Xbone. I wonder if it's a way to increase Xbone sales in Japan.

>>383265576
>playing re7 and nier on consoels
still needs fixing.

>>383265506
"Sony has acquired the rights." If Sony owned the rights to Monster Hunter 5, it would not appear on Xbox One or PC. Like how Sony acquired the rights to Bloodborne.

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>>383261008
they already thrashed the MT framework. they now use RE framework. MT framework 2.XX and MT lite is mostly used for mobile games now

>>383265754
>debate
Wow

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>>383263628

Last of Us confirmed GOAT

>>383265754
If a game is made for PS4, it can be ported to Xbox with nearly no effort.

>>383265754

I dont even think it's coming out on the Xbone in japan.

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>>383263276
>Blow of the Whore
this is how you know how salty and mentally challenged these guys are, they are so upset they need to express themselves like this HAHAHAHA.

This thread is so full of sonyponis tears, is amazing.

>>383265662
>worse textures
Try missing textures and effects.
Take Grand Metropolis and Power Plant for instance, there's an additional effect added to the platforms and roads to represent the energy in them that's completely absent in the PS2 versions.

Nintendo was 'something for everyone' in the late 80s through to the 90s. Then transitioned to 'kids only' as of the gamecube and onwards. So devs don't have an interest in dropping their title on a literal toy

>>383265648

We're getting lots of new blood with games like Splatoon 2, HZD, ARMS, Nioh, etc. Although it seems with systems that have come out in the last 5 years that the first year or so of releases is dominated by ports more likely as a way of getting a foothold for new systems.

>>383265754
no pc or xb in japan

>>383265717
Do you actually believe that FF7 without the cutscenes would fit on an N64 cartridge? Holy fuck you are ignorant.

>>383265662
>>383265881
Damn, that sucks.

>>383265754
no it's a game that will try to appeal to the west to make up for the loss on jap sales they will have which is too optimistic becasue no one in the west care that much about MH.

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>>383265832
>Last of Us confirmed GOAT

Sonybros everyone.

>>383265754
>Wow there's a lot of debate here.
>To be honest I'm just surprised MHWorld is also on the Xbone. I wonder if it's a way to increase Xbone sales in Japan.
It's PS4 exclusive in Japan. it's on PS4, Xbone, and PC rest of the world. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-13-monster-hunter-world-announced-for-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc

>>383265851
I know that, it's just that this is the first MH game to come out on a microsoft system. I'm just wondering since the xbox does so poorly in japan that Microsoft negotiated to get the game on their console.

>>383265780
playing with Nier on computer requires you to have a literal third hand.

>inb4 buy a controller then.
then its a simple admittance that it is unplayable in pc, and requires a control scheme for a console

>>383265945
You can literally google all of this yourself. It's a fact that cutscenes were the reason a lot of games required multiple discs when it came to the PS1 but the full game was actually loaded on to both with sections locked off for story reasons.

>>383265576
I love how painfully accurate this is

>>383265898
>Then transitioned to 'kids only' as of the gamecube and onwards.

Factually incorrect considering the DS and Wii were popular with older adults. That reverted in the 3DS and Wii U generation but hey, you're still wrong.

>Mfw 3U and 4U were fucking amazing even though X/XX were garbage
>World looks fucking awful but I can easily play Toukiden or God Eater on my PS4 instead

Kek, the only people who lose are people who are shilling World and insisting it will be good.

>>383266045
Would japs even bother with MHW on xbox when its also on pc/ps4

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>Buying Nintendo products for third parties

>>383266207
Yes, the good third party games tend to sell anon.

>>383266045
Oh ok, my mistake then. It'd make sense not to put it on PC in Japan due to Frontier. This explains a fair bit.

>>383265898
>Transitioned to kids only
Didn't you just get half your posts deleted?

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>>383263628
Nintendo has embraced the fact that they know they can carry themselves alone with no one help. This is both a blessing and a curse.

The third party almost fuck up the 3DS because Nintendo decided to release a minimal amount of first party titles to give then a chance. Most people will ignore this fact.

The Wii U show Nintendo that they should never trust 3rd party developers and that they have the power to move their own consoles alone. Most people will also ignore this and forget they had strong 3rd party support at early stages.

Tell me another console out there in the market that can do this kind of incredible achievement.

>>383260251
Happens every hardware gen for Nintendo.

>>383266187

>X/XX were garbage

When will this meme die. At worst it's a minor downgrade from 4U. Both game are far more playable and enjoyable than the truly obsolete MHFU.

>>383265923
>We're getting lots of new blood
im talking about the who is palying games not who is making them.Yes splatoon is popular with kids but thats just a few of the exceptions.
The averag gamer age is now like 35 for god sake. even tough e have more hardware sales than other gens the software is still down each year.By next decade current people will actually be too old to play vidya.

>>383266207
>Not wanting Story of Seasons, Rune Factory and the like

>>383265805
But worlds is running on MT frameworks?

>>383265898
>Nintendo was 'something for everyone' in the late 80s through to the 90s.

Typical response from a clueless child. Nintendo are still, and always have been, like that.

Nintendo are 'AND' company. Sony and Microsoft are 'OR' companies.

>>383266193
Xbox owners worldwide wouldn't even buy it. Its a proven fact they do not buy Japanese games. I honestly think if there was a Switch version it'd sell more and be more worth the time

>>383260251
I can't remember the last time Nintendo had a console where third parties actually flooded onto it. Maybe the NES but after PS1 came out, they lost all their support for good.

>>383260251
Haven't happened to any developer that matters so far.

>>383260251
>rumor
I figured this was the case from the moment they announced it was coming to everything EXCEPT switch and that MonHun XX wasn't coming to the west for literally no reason.

and of course every time i pointed out that Sony fucking does this shit all the time (funding exclusivity on an IP until everyone's bought it and then letting it run free months later) i got naysayers defending modern capcom or whinging

>"CAPCOM ONLY SAID THEY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY THEY DIDNT DECONFIRM MHXX!!"

sony bought the exclusive rights for MH in the west with World and the reason it looks fucking washed out and casualized is because they want to make WESTERNIZED MONHUN and cut nintendo out of the picture completely.

they want people to associate monster hunter with gritty "mature" realistic western design with nothing colorful or 'silly' or 'japanese', if we see a single Felyne in World i will be shocked, that's simply too japanese for our western eyes!

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>>383266336
>The Wii U show Nintendo that they should never trust 3rd party developers
>all those shitty ports
>the same developers could have made sequels to DS games

>>383266116

The great thing about PC is how much you can customize it to your needs. Honestly if you own an PC and don't have a nice variety of control setups you're doing it horribly wrong and should just go back to your cushioned console comfort zone.

>>383266426
Story of seasons is confirmed for the switch isn't it?

>>383266116
the pc accept a bunch of controll schemes not just mous and keyboard.
why buy a 300 dollar paperwieght when you can only buy the controller.

>>383260251
Nintendo consoles are typically very annoying to port games to. In many cases due to money constraints developers have to choose to either develop only for Nintendo consoles or develop for every console except Nintendo consoles.

This is because both their hardware and software is completely different from every other platform and their software is highly proprietary and it's difficult to translate a game from any other platform's software to Nintendo software.

There's also the additional fact that Nintendo as a company are notoriously hard to work with as a third or even second party developer as they often include clauses in their contracts that give them editorial control over the content of your game and won't budge on this rule in most cases. Basically if you develop for Nintendo you have to be willing to let Nintendo dictate what is allowed in your game even if your game is coming out on every other platform as well.

Simply put, Nintendo hardware is weird and under-powered, their software is designed with shitloads of proprietary protections and security measures that make it a bitch to port games to it and the company itself is annoying to work with and like to stick their noses into your development cycles.

There's a good damn reason that the majority of Nintendo's console releases have been 1st party ever since they clamped down on 3rd party content after the SNES.

>>383266449
Right, I'm certain even XX would sell far better than worlds on the Xbox.

>>383265898
>kids only instead of "something for everyone" from gamecube on up
>Zelda Twilight Princess was rated Teen
>Wii Sports was created encouraging people to use motion controls, on top of Nintendo Land, and (the unfortunate) 1,2 Switch

>>383266458
>I can't remember the last time Nintendo had a console where third parties actually flooded onto it.
The Wii
https://pietriots.com/2010/12/17/the-3rd-party-wall-of-shame/

>>383260934
citation needed

>xbone, xbonex, pc and ps4 all use standardized x86-64 architecture
>nintendo decides to release a shitty gaming smartphone which uses shitty gaming smartphone architecture just to be different
Gee I wonder why nintendo has no third party support, it's almost as if they make it unnecessarily difficult for them on purpose every time.

>>383266517
>sony bought the exclusive rights for MH in the west with World and the reason it looks fucking washed out and casualized is because they want to make WESTERNIZED MONHUN and cut nintendo out of the picture completely.

>Sony exclusive
>On PC and Xbox

>>383266561
Yeah, Marvelous said it's one of their first Switch projects.

>>383266193
>>>383266045 (You)
>Would japs even bother with MHW on xbox when its also on pc/ps4
Most Xbox sales are for Burgers in the army station in Japan. I doubt it japs don't even like consoles anymore everything is on handhelds now even the vitas is doing good over there.

I'm not sure why Capcom thinks it's good to lose handheld to console sales eitherin japan. I'll just add it up Capcom is retarded.

>>383266585
Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. I was just thinking that this was a way to get more japs to buy an xbone for MH.

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>>383260934
>Our engine which runs like shit on other consoles runs even worse on a console where we have to try
oh no
>Nintendo wants to make sure our games are high quality and that's bad.
oh no
>We are afraid that a console with record breaking hardware sales won't have enough people to play our game
oh no

>>383266574
Don't make shit games then faggot, at least Nintendo has quality control

>>383260696
It's only a handheld when you point out how shitty it's performance is.
Until you need it to run at 1080 to prove it's not shit then you mention it's also a home console.
An excuse for every situation!
3ds is still selling better and getting more games than the switch

>>383260251
Because the Switch is the Wii again. We knew this the moment they announced it would have:
>overpriced accessories just to get a standard gameplay experience
>higher/similar priced console than the competition despite the fact that it's weaker and didn't come with a game
>the power difference is similar to when comparing the Wii to Xbox360/PS3, basically way too underpowered

It got it's initial sales boost based on novelty, just like Wii. But the attach rate and number of game purchases is going to be absolute dogshit again. So, no it's not getting multiplats, especially considering what happened with Wii/Wii U and publishers already know that. I mean, why would you want the latest big game on it anyways? It would have to be hampered down tremendously to fit and work. Consider Spiderman 3. The Wii version was definitively the worst, only really existing for the novelty of swinging your arms like a retard to web swing. It had less content than the other versions, less visual fidelity and lower framerate most of the time. That's the future you would have to look forward to if you bought multiplats on Switch. It would be for novelty and nothing else. That's why no one fucking bought multiplats on Wii/Wii U, thus they never sold, and why publishers aren't falling for the same shit with Switch.

>>383266658
becasuse it isnt that much different from x86 outside some extra pair of instructions.
but AAA devs are lazy, even indie devs put more effort in their compressions and perfromance.

>>383266517
And there are people who don't think that Sony is a cancer.

>>383266613
Oh yeah Wii had a ton of third party shovelware, it was ridiculous. Smartphones didn't go global yet so all the app store trash was ported to Wii.

>>383266749
>high quality
Not high quality but not unplayable, see "Vaccine" on the Switch

>>383266658
>just to be different

Yes, and that's a positive thing which should be celebrated. Based Nintendo.

>>383266574
>In many cases due to money constraints
So basically it's easy to port to them but they're greedy asshats.

>>383266705
I honestly think Monster Hunter is turning into SMT at this point
>Series is on a handheld only
>The far better and more effort spinoff series (or whatever you'd call MHW) that's part of it is on consoles

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>>383266336
Now imagine Sony attempting to carry themselves, they would crash and burn within a month without 3rd party developers to pay to for exclusive content and such.

This is why Sony fans get so upset, they know their company is primarily and ONLY a business, while Nintendo is a business too, they are an actual gaming company than been there for 40 years and more to come, a company with a semblance of an actual soul, if that was not the case their IP's would have been dead long ago, and here they are stronger than ever.

>>383265801
>>383265669

>Sony has acquire dthe rights for Monster Hunter 5 on PS4

That's a factual statement. Monster Hunter Worlds is on the PS4.

Rights =/= Exclusive

>>383266792
>3ds is still selling better
it actually isnt

>>383266517
There are felynes you dumb Nintendocuck. Actually watch The gameplay video next time instead of sucking Nintendo's dick all the time.

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>>383260251
i love rumors

>>383266810
>higher/similar priced console than the competition despite the fact that it's weaker and didn't come with a game

Horse shit. The Wii was several hundred dollars less expensive than the competition. Why lie so blatantly?

>>383266916
>see "Vaccine" on the Switch, PS4, Xbone and Steam
ftfy

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THIS! THIS WASN'T WHAT WAS bing bing PROMISED! yee-ahoo THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO 1-Up BE OUR YEAR! bing bing bing bing WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON TOP! Wah! Wah!

>>383266792
>3ds is still selling better
That's false though

>>383266698
Sony doesn't mind sharing games with pc or xbox, they are only cutting out Nintendo.

they poured money into SFV as well which came to PC, they do that kind of shit all the time. they are cutting out nintendo because nintendo is considered for children, not for 'mature gamers' who they want to market MH to.

>>383266986
and do they look like they're going to dress in cartoony outfits or look particularly japanese?

>>383266939
No, it's hard to port them so it takes more development time than it would to port to any other platform, which costs more money and delays release.

Greed has little to do with it, it's about time and man hours required to produce the desired result.

>>383266976
That's not how it fucking works anon

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>>383260934
I hear talk Nintendo forces parity between physical and digital releases. The reason why Puyo Puyo Tetris was $30 on PS4 and $40 on Switch was because the Switch was the only one to get a physical version, a version that would cost $10, and because of parity, it also had to be $10 more on the eShop.

It's fucking bizarre.

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yea

>>383266968
That's a good point actually. Now lets hope SMT fans don't find this comment.

>>383267019
Obviously the greentext is just talking about how Switch launched. I'm not comparing the greentext to the Wii, what I'm saying is that it's not beneficial as a standard console experience, which is a problem that the Wii had in droves.

>>383267093

Please learn what "exclusive" means.

>>383260934
>We would love to make games for the Switch, however we fear that they will not sell as well like on other platforms.
that's all you had to say nigga.
nintendo buyers don't buy third party games unless its from capcom or square enix.

>>383267025
I wasn't saying like it was exclusive, but thank

>>383266986
> Actually watch The gameplay video next time
the gameplay video shows a lot of casualization tough you have flying health potion insects for god sake.

they are called palicos since mh4 btw

>>383267189
>Starbreeze
I'm surprised I didn't notice this earlier
That explains Payday being on the switch.

>>383260934
Can't find any of the quotes in this post stupid consolewar shitposting mobilefaggot

>>383266810
>why would you want the latest big game on it anyways?
To expand your audience maybe?
To sell to the people who own Nintendo systems?
To show that your company doesn't consist of lazy retards?
To make use of said console's control scheme and functions?

>That's why no one fucking bought multiplats on Wii/Wii U, thus they never sold
>Lazy cashgrabs designed for a quick buck don't sell
Wow, you've come to the realization of every person who started gaming before you did.

>>383266427
capcom is switching everything to unreal engine.
the last confirmed MT Framework engine game is Ultra Street Fighter 2 on switch because of that way of the hado mode and that's till MHXX releases which will be on the lite framework
There's no word on what Worlds is running on but seeing how capcom is sticking to Unreal thanks to SF5 and MvCi it wouldn't be surprising to see them keep using it.

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>>383261038
>Switch is shit as a handheld
Splatoon 2 is NICE in handheld mode.

>>383267212

You're still wrong because the Switch is the first generation 9 platform, we have no idea what other generation 9 consoles will be priced at.

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Not sucking the Switch cock? Mods must be asleep.

>>383260251
Nintendo would go out of business trying to cater to these incompetent third party devs.

>>383267165
Nintendo doesn't like lowering their prices. For any reason.

Have you ever seen the price of a 3DS game in a store go down outside of sales dictated by the stores themselves, who are then losing out at the front end by discounting Nintendo's games? Nintendo game prices don't drop, ever.

>>383267307
>nintendo buyers don't buy third party games unless they're good
ftfy.

>>383267189
delet

>>383264468
See him retract himself when his next game sell like shit on the switch and go back to pc and ps4.

>>383267389
Those are a lot of NICE jaggies.

>>383267450
Funfact: That Starfox game for 3DS came out in 2011. It launched for $40. 6 YEARS LATER, it's still the same price on the eshop and retail stores.

>>383267234
lol maybe developers should learn what it means first

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=242211150#post242211150

>cuphead is ""exclusive"" to PC......... and xbox........ which means it's not fucking exclusive
>b-but maybe they mean it's microsoft exclusi--
>it's coming to Steam AND w10 store
>it's not exclusive in any sense of the word but they use the term anyway

the definition of exclusive has changed. all it means now is that one company gets to boss around the devs on what they're allowed to do with their game.

>>383267401
Switch is a handheld. A tablet with HDMI out.

>>383267450
>doesn't like lowering prices
Then what's the purpose of the (original) 2DS, a cheaper version of the 3DS? Even the original 2DS got a price drop to $99.99 USD

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>>383267450
>Have you ever seen the price of a 3DS game in a store go down outside of sales dictated by the stores themselves
Yes

>>383267479
no one bought bayonetta 2 or the wonderful 101
meanwhile "NEW" bing bing wahoo rehash sells millions

>>383267537
is going to be multiplat you dumbass, but that is pretty good for switthc and NISsince they have one more platfrom to put games on.

>>383267135
While I agree with you anon, and you're right, it's very much a greed thing. They would make enough money to justify it, especially since the Switch is reported as the easiest Nintendo console to ever port to. The problem is that publishers don't have faith that they'll make their """projected""" sales. There's a difference. Projected is what they want, not what they need. And that's the issue you have with greedy devs like Capcom, Square Enix and was THQ who expected the fucking world out of their games and didn't get it, so they just throw away any trust their fanbases have with DLC to make up that "projected sales number".

>>383266336
I mean, just look at how the 3DS was treated early on. Capcom cancelled one of the most hyped for 3DS games at the time, and a bunch of other 3rd party games were cancelled overtime too.

>>383267537
>See him retract himself when his next game sell like shit
Disgaea V sold as much if not more than the PS4 version, why would that happen?

>>383260251
>april 27
The state of sonybro

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>>383267189
I'm sure this will bear many fruits

>>383267681
w101 yeah no one did
Bayo2 actually sold rpetty decent.

>>383267623
their hardware eventually lowers in price but their software rarely ever gets a pricedrop.

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>>383267596

Doesn't change the fact. The Wii U is discontinued and the 3DS will likely be discontinued after Pokemon USUM. Switch is Nintendo's ninth generation offering for the ninth generation, there is no further argument to be had here.

>>383267537
http://realotakugamer.com/disgaea-5-preorders-on-switch-surpass-ps4-version-sales-in-the-west


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>383267550
Switch screenshots only save in .jpg, sadly. Looks nicer in person.

>>383267553

Super Mario 64 DS was a launch title and that sold for $35 till after the system was discontinued. Over 10 years.

>>383267093
>and do they look like they're going to dress in cartoony outfits or look particularly japanese?
Yes

>>383267749
>Called this out 200 posts ago
>Completely ignored in favor of more shitposting
This board is beyond hope.

>>383267814
>wiiu devs
>showes ps button prompts on the back
is this a comparision or jsut a misguided image

>>383267479
>3rd party publishers make halfassed ports to test the water.
>consumers can see right through it and ignore them.
>we have currently have no plans to bring X to Nintendo's platrorm. Nintendo gamers don't typically buy 3rd party games.

Fucking retarded beyond belief.

>>383267824
What about the "Nintendo Selects" collection or hell even the discounts on My Nintendo?
>>383267662

Is there any better proof of /v/ being the dumbest board other than this thread?

>>383260251
Yes but it has more to do with the developers not wanting to have to optimize their shit so it'll work properly. Large hard drives have allowed developers to get away with needlessly bloated and intensive games.

>>383267681
>no one bought bayonetta 2
It sold almost as much as the 360 version of Bayo 1. A console that sold almost 10 times as much as the Wii U.
Wonderful 101 sold fairly well for a new IP under the same conditions.

Perspective is a thing you have to consider anon. For instance a AAA game can also be considered a flop after selling 3 mil units depending on how much money was pumped into development and marketing.

>>383267861
>in the west
it flopped in japan
also ever heard of "no games in the west syndrome"? where early adopters of consoles are desperate enough to pick up anything that releases? see Vita when everyone bought senran kagura trash because there was nothing else after persona

>>383267320
He was saying it looks like shit on EVERY platform.

>>383266517

Didn't we see a Felyne in one trailer already? I don't think Sony necessarily negotiated some kind of all-encompassing deal with Capcom. Maybe Capcom just thinks there's more of an open world audience on PS4, PC, and XBone.

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>>383267573
Exlusives are dying. Unless it's first party expect it to end up everywhere.

Games are too expensive to make and too easy to port.

>>383267861
Why Japan doesnt like Disagaea?

>>383267981
I say hard drive but I mean memory in general.

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>>383267814
Anon...That has the fucking playstation symbols in the back. AND Sony's name is on it twice. How fucking dumb do you think we are?

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>>383267915
jealous kids are the worst people on the planet. and that's a fact.

>>383268026
We saw Palicos in the latest gameplay footage, yeah. I'd post the webm of the comfy tent if I'd saved it.

>>383267996
>it flopped in japan
like the ps4 version. The west is buying more disagea now.

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>Nintendo caring about third party devs
Even since the days of the NES they have been treating third party devs like dogshit. This isn't new or news. It looked like they were about to turn the corner on the seventh generation but the Wii sales exploded and they got arrogant again.

>>383268020
Pretty much what I said, the game isn't exclusive to Switch nor how it looks is exclusive to the Switch, everyone's the same. It's just the fact that the game is playable.

>>383267996
>"no games in the west syndrome"?
Then why didn't it sell as well on the PS4? The only other game of worth on the system was Bloodborne after all.

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>I knew this would happen
>The Switch is practically going to end up like the Wii U
>Still want to buy one anyone because of Metroid
Everything hurts

>>383267358
But none of what you've written here happened with either the Wii or the Wii U. So publishers have an incentive to not waste the time and money.

You aren't happy with what got ported to Wii/Wii U? Well tough shit. That just shows the perception that most publishers have of Nintendo consoles. It's no one's fault but Nintendo's for breeding a vision of ineptitude and weak hardware and third party relations.

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>>383267985
>Wonderful 101 sold fairly well for a new IP
lol no