Are side quests important to Open World games?

>>383254116

A better question is, name an open world game with shit side quests. That will give you your answer.

>>383254217
KoA: A

The combat alone made the game.

>>383254217
All of them?

>>383254217
nier automata

>>383254116
is zelda actually that bare bones?

>>383254821
Not sure if retarded or just pretending.
>open world
>shitty sidequests

>>383254881
Yes. like 90% of map points are either shrines or a shitty collectable.

>>383254712

Don't abbreviate your literal who games and expect other people to know what you mean

>>383254950
The sidequests in NieR Automata were really good, and a lot of them helped flesh out the main story, or foreshadow later plot twists

>>383254950
no loading screens between areas
fetch quests

File: Cemu 2017-07-04 17-02-50-91.jpg (178KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

178KB, 1920x1080px

>>383254881

Yep

It's fun though. A solid 6/10. The problem is that it's closer to Just Cause 2 or MGSV than something like Gothic 2, Morrowind or New Vegas. It's a specific type of open world that feels more like a sandbox than anything else. Fantastic engine, a bunch of cool gameplay gimmicks masking completely obnoxious and uninteresting side content.

I would swap every single Korok Seed and Shrine for just 6-8 Hyrule Castles. Even the Divine beasts fucking sucked in how short and easy they were.

>>383254217
dragon age inquisition

>>383255250

>DA:I
>"Good open world game"

>>383255310
Read the post retard.
>open world game
>shit side quests
Nowhere does it say "good"

>tfw you played TW3 and realized it was actually overrated garbage that plebs like because its like Skyrim but slightly better and with good looking female characters that you get to bone

>>383255219
>cemu
>6/10
sry opinion discarded

>>383255205
>no loading screens between areas

Why does this matter when areas are still cleanly divided up by narrow hallways or doors, and those paths are unlocked based on story progression?

>>383255473
wow you're like a game design genius dude

>>383255623
no loading screen so the areas are open

File: FNV.jpg (1MB, 1330x1650px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1330x1650px

>>383254217

>>383255556

Why do Nintendorks get so threatned whenever somebody brings up Cemu?

>>383255710
But they aren't.

>>383255473
Everything about the Witcher 3 is fantastic but the combat and reworked skill system. It's atill an amazing, huge game.

>>383254881
No.
Cemufags and haters will say to you yes.
It's not perfect but these people pretend is a shitty games beacause they hate Nintendo.

>>383255250
Yep. You're suppose to be the leader of the inquisition, which is a big force. You shouldn't be doing errands for your own troops, like one of your own soldiers asking you to collect herbs for him, you should be able to just send guys out yourself to do it.

>>383255784

Because it reminds them that they paid $350 for a port playable on 2 other systems, one of which plays it at 1080p with 4k texture packs

>>383255868
>>383255556

>Nintenkiddies arguing with Sonybros
>"SWITCH + PC MASTERRACE, A-A-AMIRITE PC FRIENDS?!"

>Nintenkiddies arguing with PCbros
>"SHUT THE FUCK UP PCFAGS, CEMU SUCKS DICK. FUCK OFF"

Yep, pretty convinced that Nintenkiddies forced the "PC + Nintendo" meme to justify owning the most limited and shittiest value system on the market

>>383255784
Because cemu or better PC players are people who play the game only to say "yeah it's shit, see my pic on cemu", console war faggots.

>>383255556

>HE DIDN'T PAY $300+ BUCKS TO PLAY ZELDA, THEREFORE HIS OPINION DOESN'T COUNT

If anything, his opinion counts more because he doesn't have buyers remorse clouding his judgement

>>383256047
Whatever you say shitposter-kun.

>>383254881
No, it's full of legit side quests outside of the Koroks and Shrines, and shines in lots of areas that Witcher games fall flat. That image is painfully obvious bait.

>>383256059

Your projecting your shitty console war mentality onto other anons.

I literally said that the game was fun, made my criticisms clear (none of which are performance related, all purely down to the actual content) and drew comparisons to other above average open world games that fell short in similar areas.

Calling anyone a "console war faggot" as you try to make this a "console war" yourself is sheer projection, grow up kid.

File: 1441920198572.jpg (105KB, 550x764px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 550x764px

>>383255052
>find type-E android in sidequest
>huh thats pretty cool I wonder if we'll ever meet any oth-
>tfw find type-E android in mainquest

>>383255848

this is a big exaggeration

everything about TW3 is decent there's just so much of it that people get tricked into thinking its really good

>>383256256

>legit side quests

Name them the good side quests and don't just list pad them, literally explain what makes them interesting.

>inb4 Eventide Island
Literally just collecting 3 orbs. No engaging characters, no interesting sub plot or side story. Nothing.

>Tarrey Town
The only decent side quest from a narrative stance and surprise surprise, it's one big fucking fetch quest.

Anybody who says that Breath of the Wild had good side quests, is simply fucking deluding themselves.

>>383256127
Some people donate for cemu, think about that desperation to play a game only for shitposting purpose.

>>383256436
Now this is an autistic tantrum if I've ever seen one.

File: hahahahahaha.jpg (32KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 400x400px

>Majoras Mask is widely regarded as one of (if not THE) best Zelda games in the series
>The one defining feature is its emphasis on Side Quests, something that Witcher 3 has in spades
>Breath of the Wilds side quests (and side content in general) is completely mediocre
>"wtf? I HATE side quests now! I would much rather collect 900 pieces of literal tree poop!"

Loving
Every
Laugh

>>383256436
Wow, maybe people like Eventide because of the gameplay challenges it poses instead of rating the quality of every sidequest exclusively on its fucking story and characters in a V I D E O G A M E

And this is coming from someone who got too bored of BotW to even finish it and found the sidequests to be too plain and too sparse.

>>383256570

>No arguments

DIdn't think so

>>383256347
This. I finally tried it out expecting it to live up to the hype because a lot of friends who's opinions I respect said it was amazing, but it's painfully average. There's nothing fun about the story or quests, the combat is unremarkable, and the funnest part of the game is playing cards.

That and I'm sick of modern WRPGs being nothing but a wasteland with one big city and a shitload of tiny throwaway villages. At least BOTW has more than one decent town, even if it's dungeons are lame, but then again people only talk shit about the dungeons because of past Zelda games excelling in that field.
Witcher 3 dungeons are as generic as you can possibly get.

File: 063e3ab218ca0abd99c2ce08f55f9635.jpg (81KB, 1023x1073px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 1023x1073px

>>383256727
I literally could not give less of a shit about arguing with you, proving anything to you, or changing your opinion. You clearly take grave offence to anyone praising something you dislike and have zero intention of changing your mind.

I'll stick to having fun playing video games and not lose a lick of sleep over the anonymous nerd on 4chan who got to walk away thinking he won an internet argument.

File: hmmm.jpg (24KB, 517x517px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 517x517px

>>383256667

>Wow! Maybe people like MGSV "Mission 37, Subsistence mode" because of the gameplay challenges it poses!

Nah, the side quests suck.

When 90% of the game is spent running around fighting the same reskinned mokoblins then you better get me a more interesitng side quests than guess what! Running around fighting the same reskinned mokoblins but with the added layer of fat being the fact that you need to find weapons instead of using your own!

>>383256887

>"Just responding to let you know how NOT mad I am!"

Absolutely seething

>>383256887
He will now say something stupid to annoy you beacause this is what a shitposter do.

File: ludo.png (91KB, 698x228px) Image search: [Google]

91KB, 698x228px

>>383256758

Screencap your copy of Witcher 3 if its on console or post it in your steam library with thread in background.

Your entire post reeks of a misinformed Nintenbro mad that Witcher 3 single handedly won more awards than every single Nintendo game ever made.

File: 34561364161.jpg (61KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 1280x720px

Arguing is stupid. Everybody should just post cute Link and handsome Geralt instead.

>>383256758

>Nothing but a wasteland with one big city

As opposed to BoTW that's a wasteland with no big cities?

Kakirko/Hateno village make Whiterun in Skyrim look like Novigrad.

>>383257082
What the fuck are you talking about? Why are you bringing up MGSV? Do you expect me to disagree with the fact that the side ops are garbage in that game? Every single one of them is repeated one or two dozen times, and they all follow the same flow as every other part of the game. It isn't comparable to Eventide island at all, which I suppose I need to stress at this point, was not some masterstroke of game development, it was just a single fun sidequest in a game with huge repetition problems.

I don't even disagree with what you're saying about Zelda in general, I was criticizing the fact that you said a sidequest sucked because it didn't have interesting characters and story.

>>383257276
And here we go, ofc a shitposter like shitposter score from metacritic, everybody can vote and nobody care to check.

>>383257276

>user score

nice meme

File: 19477700_1414225688645006_6166015671075565128_o.jpg (125KB, 960x340px) Image search: [Google]

125KB, 960x340px

>>383257276
And your post reeks of overcompensating westaboo that thinks awards and scores matter.

Now screenshot your copy of BOTW.

>>383255779
>FNV
>Shit side quests
?????

>>383257276
>awards
Evolve win many awards, also DA:I, awards mean nothing for us, is good only for PR reasons

>>383257569

>Why are you bringing up MGSV?

Because it's the exact same fucking thing

Everybody agrees that MGSVs side content sucked but using your own logic, suddenly its side content seems totally fucking amazing! Because hey, the gameplay is all that counts right?

>Every single one of them is repeated one or two dozen times,

That's my entire argument. You're claiming that Eventide island is good solely on the fact that you no longer have your equipment, right? EVEN THOUGH there's no new characters, narrative or even fucking enemies (Mokoblins and one Hinox, enemies you've been fighting since the fucking start), right?

Well then how is that ANY FUCKING DIFFERENT than some shitty rehashed subsistance mission in MGSV that have you fighting the same enemies but this time, with no equipment?

Lmfao, at least the MGSV Subsistence missions gave you a brand new cutscene advancing the plot along. You don't even get that in Eventide Island and the shrine you unlock is an empty shrine with a chest inside so even that isn't new.

>I was criticizing the fact that you said a sidequest sucked because it didn't have interesting characters and story.

I'm saying the side quest sucked because it has nothing new, period.

Side quests need to be engaging or interesting. Doing the same shit you've been doing the other 20+ hours isn't engaging or interesting.

That's literally MMO tier

>>383257521
The towns in BOTW have more style and character than any of the dingy little shanty towns in W3, though. They're all just some shitty houses and forlorn villagers.

The towns in BOTW have various cultural styles and structures, and all kinds of different characters and events going on. There's a school in the Gerudo town that teaches Gerudos about men, and a secret shop that you have to eavesdrop on conversations to find. In Zora's Domain there's the interesting disparity between the light-spirited younger Zoras and the elders that have disdain for Link over events the youngsters weren't around for.

They all have varying styles and feels to them, even if they're not actually huge. It's a lot more like Morrowind, whereas Witcher 3 is more like Oblivion, with one big interesting city and several smaller same-y ones.

>>383257815

>No timestamp


Didn't think so.

>Now screenshot your copy of BOTW

Once you do what I initially asked.

File: f1a2967f263a1b2df450779d70f952e1.jpg (75KB, 801x1000px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 801x1000px

>>383257424
Truly two of the best boys in gaming.

>>383256637
BotW babbies are too young to have played good Zelda games.

Something to bear in mind in these threads is that a lot of the kids you're arguing with are younger than Ocarina of Time is.

>>383258141
>moving goalposts
Nice.

File: Way_of_the_Samurai_Coverart.png (143KB, 256x363px) Image search: [Google]

143KB, 256x363px

yes

>>383258064
What's a game with good sidequests? Keep in mind the sidequest better not include any mechanics or content that can be found outside of the sidequest if it's to be considered good.

>>383258141
How do you timestamp a PS4 share screenshot, dipshit?

>>383258169
On a scale of 9-10 how mad does it make you to know I beat Zelda 1 before the SNES launched and am playing BOTW at this very moment? :^)

File: 1486107320739.gif (94KB, 325x244px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 325x244px

I genuinely think BOTW is probably the first ubisoft tier open world for Nintenfags looking at how it's revered by them.

File: 1498588539624.jpg (2MB, 2174x2605px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2174x2605px

This kills the shitposter

>>383258361
>On a scale of 9-10 how mad does it make you to know that I'm in my 30s and have terrible taste in video games and am an obnoxious shitposter?
Like, zero.

>>383258169
>I'm an adult and you are a kid! Kid don't play old games! So you love new games beacause you are young not beacause the game is good!

'92 here, I'm not really old or young, the only Zelda I don't finished was II, my favorite one was LA and I think BOTW is pretty solid (8/10).

File: 1499170407751.png (287KB, 949x1012px) Image search: [Google]

287KB, 949x1012px

>>383258571
DELETE THIS VERY POST RIGHT FUCKING NOW WITCHER IS THE BEST OPEN-WORLD GAME BASED SLAVS FUCK YOU NINTENIGGER

>>383258597
Okay, congratulations. I was giving BotW fans the benefit of the doubt and assuming they just didn't know any better. I guess the guy I was replying to was right, you faggots are fucking retards.

>>383258558
>I believe something to fit my narrative
Par for the cause

File: Untitled.jpg (3MB, 7696x1688px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 7696x1688px

>>383258075

>Zelda babbie trying to shitpost Witcher 3s cities

WEW LAD
E
W

L
A
D

>>383256047
Everyone knows idort is the master race

>>383258773
>gets BTFO with your ad hominem
>no you guys are retards!

>>383258841
The Zelda cities somehow look more varied and interesting

If the game has to give you a reason to explore than its a shit game.

>>383258682
>sonybro defending The Witcher 3
You can't even keep your shitposting straight.

>>383258064
There is no other part of BotW that takes your equipment away and puts you on an island designed to be tackled naked and gives you objectives that can be solved in multiple ways with your limited tools and inspires you to occasionally get creative with what's on hand. The point was to get the player to approach what would otherwise be an easy, almost mundane task in a different way, so giving them new enemies for it would defeat the purpose of that. Though when I got to eventide, it was still the first time I'd seen the electric chuchus or the chest octoroks.

In MGSV there are multiple missions like that, and they also all take place in areas you've already been to, and the mechanics of the game don't allow for nearly as much experimentation.

>>383258574
>obnoxious shitposter
Pot calling the kettle black

>>383258841
>medieval buildings
>medieval buildings
>medieval buildings + mountain
>shanty town
>medieval buildings + castle
Wow Oblivion 2 looks great.

>>383258872
Maybe if you're a fucking idiot.

>>383258229

>Moving goalposts

I asked for proof. Getting me some image of Witcher 3 in some guys library isn't proof.

Proof would be a screenshot of the Witcher 3 copy with a timestamp

>>383258361

>How do you timestamp a PS4 share screenshot, dipshit?

Take a phone picture with a timestamp, idiot

>>383258841
zelda looks better though, i don't know where you were going with this post

>>383254712
did u mean KoA:R

>>383255219
Do you post this in every single BotW thread

>>383254116
I really wish people didn't make disrepresentative shitpost images like this. Top image totally disregards the towns and NPC's, boss dungeons, hyrule castle, stables etc.

GOD YOU HATE ZELDA AND HAVENT PLAYED IT, WE GET IT

>>383258939
You say that like Oblivion doesn't have better towns/cities than BotW too.

File: 1496416653838.jpg (45KB, 808x805px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 808x805px

>>383258841

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

File: 1498692647693.png (17KB, 287x287px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 287x287px

Reminder

>>383258841
>including the prerelease bullshot of Novigrad

>>383258841
Did you just prove him right?

>>383258960
>everyone who thinks differently from me is a fucking idiot
Okay anon, calm down.

>>383259091
Wrong Wojack, that pic makes w3 look like shot uninspired garbage

File: 1491065512558.gif (2MB, 245x246px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 245x246px

>>383259004
>says to screenshot
>then says take phone picture
>I'M NOT MOVING GOALPOSTS GUYS!
Sorry anon, I'm not going to go dig out my phone and some paper+pen to take a picture and upload it to my computer just to sate a shitposter.

Hope you enjoy those (You)s and whatever damage-control bluff you try to reply with because I'm done feeding you.

File: 1.jpg (6KB, 251x199px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 251x199px

>>383259021

>Zelda babbies will claim their shitty """cities""" with 5~ buildings is better than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZM8lj_Vlc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi4MRmZPgV8

I really wish Nintenbros would just leave this board.

They are literally too delusional

>>383258960
I played all the zeldas besides Skyward sword and BotW is the best of them all, on par with MM

OOT was always worse than Mm, and even TP is better

27 yo lurker reporting in ..


BotW 10/10 11/10 with weed

I actually played both and BOTW takes a huge steaming shit on Witcher 3

W3 is just an extremely overrated game

>>383259269
Yeah, it's better because it's not the same buildings copy pasted through every single city and they actually look visually unique with visually unique NPCs, unlike the shitter3 where it's the same everywhere

Now please make a better shitpost picture

File: 1390197720821.png (434KB, 571x540px) Image search: [Google]

434KB, 571x540px

Zelda is a mile wide but a puddle deep.

Open world games are shit in general

>>383254116
Only if they're repetitive, otherwise no.

File: pathologic choices.png (3MB, 1920x1200px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1920x1200px

>>383254116

File: maxresdefault-2-1.jpg (66KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 1920x1080px

>>383259084
Are you enjoying The Elder Scrolls© Skyrim™ HD®, anon?

>>383254116
I thought both games were handcrafted. Neither are procedurally generated, right?

>>383259424
This quote has lost all meaning, it can be applied to every single semi-large game

>>383259406
Pathetic.

>>383259269
>comparing DLC locations in one game to vanilla game locations in another
wew

>>383259269
>larger=better
Is this the mind of W3 babies?

>>383259406


>Yeah, it's better because it's not the same buildings copy pasted through every single city


Literally every single building in Kakiriko village,. Hateon village and Gerudo village are copy pasted tho?

Rito Village and Zoras domain don't even fucking have buildings.

Like I said, delusional

>>383259510
No argument? How pathetic. I would rather see 5 unique areas than 5 same, but larger areas

>>383259547
It literally is.
I enjoy both games but the only arguments in favor of the Witcher 3 ever made boil down to "IT'S BIG!"

Nintendo's first party games radiate charm and style, and some gamers, especially younger ones, can't appreciate that over big realistic things.

>>383259547

SKYRIM WINS AGAIN

>>383255473
Witcher 3 is highly over-rated but it's still a solid game. With a combat rework and perk system rework the game would be highly rated. The problem lies in some of the story and choices you can do and a fair amount of bugs or annoyances like controlling roach.

>>383259597
>every single building in one village
I'm talking about all the buildings in the witches 3 though. All of them, all the towns look similar with similar buildings

Also yeah, I guess zora domain's structures are too unique for the witcher baby's mind to handle, thus they aren't buildings to them. It's okay anon, stay pleb

>>383254116
BOTW is so bad.

>>383259247

>Sorry anon, I'm not going to go dig out my phone

It's ok, I didn't think you played Witcher 3 and nobody else did either.

Stay mad over Witcher 3s being more of a success than every single Zelda game combined. It truly is genre defining

>>383259608
It's sad how delusional you are. There's no sense in arguing with you, because you willfully ignore reality.

>>383259424
>t. burger

Wait, are Zeldafags really saying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGmQENDrGkc

IS better than

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZM8lj_Vlc

I love both games but how delusional can one fanbase be? Novigrad is the single best city i've seen in any open world game to date.

>>383259467
>it can be applied to every single semi-large game
Not really. It just happens to apply to a wide variety of AAA games because they value having lots of shit for players to do over mechanical depth

>>383259874
No, but gerudo is better than novigrad. the NPC dialogue there is better than anything in W3

>>383258841
Both are pretty good considering bethesda games still exist

>>383259729

>I'm talking about all the buildings in the witches 3 though. All of them, all the towns look similar with similar buildings

How can you say Beauclair looks like Novigrad?

That's just a blatant lie? That's the thing about you Nintendo fanboys, you just lie because you can never argue the facts

File: 1463013263355.webm (848KB, 494x408px) Image search: [Google]

848KB, 494x408px

>>383260053

>>383259441
>tfw i savescummed my way into tons of money and no infection
>im 9 or 10 days in and i dont feel like finishing the game because it's so fucking tedious
>ruined the tone of the game for myself
Sorry, I don't feel like restarting the 36 hour long campaign of walking around just so I can finish the story. Is it worth finishing up, or not? I can't imagine playing the other two characters either.

>>383259761
It's sad how delusional you are. There's no sense in arguing with you, because you willfully ignore reality.

>>383260053

>arguing NPC dialogue of all things in favor of fucking Zelda vs Witcher 3

I'm genuinely gob smacked at this delusion.

There's no countering these levels of denial.

File: 1492685537643.png (1MB, 850x1201px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 850x1201px

>it's another Witcher 3 fans overcompensate and screech autistic buzzwords over other games episode
If their game is so amazing why do they have to fight so desperately hard to prove to everyone else how amazing it is? They're like the least-chill RPG fans out there.

>>383260078
It does. And pot calling the kettle black, the buildings in those villages are not identical either

>>383260091
Nice lack of an argument

>>383260131
Cute.

>>383260190
Yeah they war with everyone. I still remember the bloodborne threads

Post more link

File: fucking A.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1920x1080px

>>383260053

>Zelda dialogue is better than Witcher 3s dialogue

This HAS to be a false flag

>>383260207
It's just so fucking absurd and stupid, I don't have any response to it other than derisive laughter.

>>383260225

Thanks anon you're cute too :3

>>383260186
>oi pleez 'alp me mistuh witchuh suh! me mum done gotted curried oaf by a weahwolf!
>hrmmm grrrrr werewolves hmmmrrr I'll take care of it for some gold m'am grumblegrrrr
>oi don' 'ave moch, bet I kin give ye me pa's ol' swerid if'n ya 'elp me
>mhrmhhrrrconsideritdone

File: 1422142854673.gif (1013KB, 220x168px) Image search: [Google]

1013KB, 220x168px

>>383260053

>Gerudo desert is better than Novigrad

Nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-8dMEcbCmU

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZM8lj_Vlc

It's not even close

>NPC dialogue

Get me a single Gerudo desert conversation as good as any of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5K7XrdK8Fs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYEtsJ7wAjU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2g4J428vHs

You Nintendo fuckers literally need to kill yourselves. Your delusions know no bounds

>>383260190
>why do they have to fight so desperately hard to prove to everyone else how amazing it is?
Are you talking about Witcher 3 fags or BotW fags?

>>383260284
I haven't played Zelda but the town npc dialogue in TW3 is fucking awful. They are so obviously quest dispensers. No charm or anything human like about them at all.

>>383260314

>a predominantly PC board is mad over a PC game

?

>>383255219
>Gothic 2
leoldfagnamedrop game

>Morrowind
game for casual-lite hipsters

>New Vegas
le/v/corememegame

File: 1487874421571.jpg (413KB, 800x726px) Image search: [Google]

413KB, 800x726px

>>383260283
>Post more link

>>383260417
Witcher3. Is it not obvious which fan base made the thread? You fags do it with every recent game too, hell I've even seen morrowind wars

>>383260412
>bigger=better
Minecraft>>all games

Also I thought we were talking about NPCs found randomly in towns? Not quest NPCs or anything?

File: 1364411578900.jpg (36KB, 497x358px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 497x358px

Linear handcrafted worlds > Sandbox worlds > Open worlds > rogue worlds.

File: 1449463658835.jpg (131KB, 844x839px) Image search: [Google]

131KB, 844x839px

>>383260412

SHUT UP, THE GENERIC VOICELESS 3 LINES OF DIALOGUE IN ZELDA IS LEAGUES BETTER THAN THAT SHIT, FUCK OFF, JUST FUCK OFF

>>383260490
Link is cute as fuck. Anyone has some nice shit with him and Geralt?

>>383258682
>>383260628
You have 2 (TWO) seconds to prove these aren't the same poster.

>>383260586

Bigger, superior characters, superior art design, superior stories, superior side quests, superior content, superior everything

Novigrad >>>>>>>>>> Whiterun in Skyrim >>>>>>>>> Monster Hunter 4U Hubs >>>>>>>>> Gerudo Town

>Also I thought we were talking about NPCs found randomly in towns?

movinggoalposts.jpeg

>>383260628
>falseflagging this hard
>actually praising voice acting in RPGs
I thought you were better than this /v/

>>383260662
I wish. They make a good duo of mystery-solving pussy-slayers.

File: Untitled.png (13KB, 666x221px) Image search: [Google]

13KB, 666x221px

>>383260686

>>383260732
Literally all wrong, wow amazing, is this the power of witcher fags? Superior story? Give me a break, Novigard has a shit generic backstory and little culture at all

>>383260190
it's probably just Russians defending their slavshit game 24/7 between DOTA matches

for them it's a matter of national pride to produce a video game

>>383260769
If only witcher fans aren't so antagonistic

Why are they so antagonistic anyway? It's weird. It's not even bad or anything

>>383254116
I think a lot of games struggle with justifying spending time on their side quests. A lot of the ones in the first Mass Effect could me a main quest in any other game (psychic cults, sentient AI taking over the moon, galactic interracial politics) but when the main story is about lovecraftian machines from beyond the stars coming to eat us all I feel like I'm wasting my time

>>383260812
You should've just rolled with the joke. You would've looked less like a faggot.

>>383260842
POLAND IS NOT RUSSIA CLAY

REEEEEEEEE

>>383260737
BotW has voice acting you colossal thunder nigger.

File: 4HgSpk3.jpg (230KB, 598x792px) Image search: [Google]

230KB, 598x792px

>>383260836

Not an argument

File: animechick.png (513KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

513KB, 1280x720px

>>383260412

How will Nintenshills ever recover?

>Still can't believe they tried arguing that Breath of the Wild has better dialogue and cities, that's not even delusional, that's downright insane

File: 1486574554835.jpg (6KB, 188x188px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 188x188px

>>383260989
SOON

Nier automata>>>>the witcher 3
Superior characters, superior story, superior combat, superior everything besides graphixx

>>383259757
i've played witcher 3 and BOTW and I can say BOTW is better.

>>383261072
Replying to yourself doesn't help your argument.

>>383261072
>biting the falseflag bait this hard

File: lo.png (31KB, 1357x327px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 1357x327px

>>383260812

File: 1449463706374.jpg (128KB, 808x805px) Image search: [Google]

128KB, 808x805px

>>383260412

Ok mods, you can remove this now

File: 634537.jpg (17KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 480x360px

>>383260925
that and the impact just wasn't there. Good side quests need to feel like they pay off later in game. Take for example the side quests in Skies of Arcadia, they add members to your ships crew, they add allies that show up in the final battle, they expand of your followers, there was a real sense that while it was all optional, it all mattered.

>>383261082
This, can't believe taro BTFOed a bunch of poles with a shoestring budget with no government support

File: 17620304_1523957474281967_7684354882585549482_o.jpg (92KB, 1280x738px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 1280x738px

>TFW Witcher 3 fanboys have folders full of stupid meme guy with Nintendo hats just for these threads
Why do you feel so threatened? Nintendo isn't going to take your precious game away.

>>383261465
Because they know breath of the wild is better, deep down. Like how they know bloodborne deserves more GOTYs than they do

File: eat a dick.png (2MB, 1775x827px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1775x827px

>>383261113

I'm playing BoTW right now and I can say that Witcher 3 is much better

It's user score, sales and awards (that shit on every single Zelda game combined) also corroborate this notion.

>>383261528
>user score, sales and awards
How are you enjoying the latest Call of Duty™, anon? :^)

>>383260489
Alright what do you like anon what is the game that tops everything and will rape my pathetic mind.

>>383261528
then I guess we have different tastes in games? is that so hard? witcher 3 was great for story and side quests and botw was great for exploration and gameplay, but I enjoyed it more.

fucking autists

File: how.png (2MB, 1856x772px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1856x772px

How did they do it?

>>383261609
That's rich coming from a BotW fag.
>muh metacritic score
You're a faggot. He's a faggot too, but you're slightly gayer for pretending you have any sort of rhetorical high ground.

>>383261609

Didn't know that Call of Duty had the record for most GoTYs.

Mind providing a source?

>>383261775

You mad the initial statement/comparison. Not me.

Don't get mad at me for merely doing exactly what you did you fucking retard

File: 1477348042338.png (121KB, 553x585px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 553x585px

>>383255779

File: 1463574769998.jpg (365KB, 750x725px) Image search: [Google]

365KB, 750x725px

Just deal with it /v/.

You wanted Witcher 3 to fail and not only did it succeed, but it's being heralded as the new benchmark for open world games. You can shitpost about the combat, the "muh movie" all you want. But its success speaks for itself.


9.3 User Score
257 GoTYs
20+ million unit sales

It's success is undeniable and love not only from the critics, but gamers alike. Gaming will now be phrased as "Before the Witcher 3" and "After the Witcher 3".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYwfr_DcR0

>>383259031
kingdoms of amalur awakening

>>383254712
Nothing made that game. Shit's the definition of garbage. Game's boring and retarded easy. No point even playing it when it plays itself.

>>383262337
lmao are you fucking joking? the only people who still love that game are retarded /v/ spergs and reddit fags

>>383262337

This

I love BoTW and Witcher 3 but the Witcher 3 was so much more. BoTW was a fun sandbox that felt more like a tech demo than anything else. Witcher 3 was a genuine experience

>>383254116
>go to a cave and kill some drowners
>go to a cave and kill some witches
>go to a cave and kill some soldiers

Amazing side stories 10/10

>>383262131

Nah negro, Witcher 3 is better you fucking cuck sperg

i gotta admit they went a bit nuts with koroks
I still play their stupid games once in a while anyway

>>383262487

And the only people who love Zelda are autistic manchildren

File: shitter pee the bile cunt.webm (1MB, 900x506px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 900x506px

mhmm yes oh yes indeed
THIS is what a real game looks like, nintendopes

I can play witcher at a playable framerate making it the better game by default.

File: ZELDA HITBOXES 2.webm (941KB, 764x428px) Image search: [Google]

941KB, 764x428px

>>383262776
like your game is much better

>>383260412
delet

>>383260412

>shitposting Zelda drone doesn't reply to this post

Really makes you think

>>383261896
CDPR had the resources of an entire nation put at their disposal. Poland doesn't necessarily have the 40 billion budget Nintendo has, but it was way more than 20 adidas tracksuits

>>383261715
not shit meme games, that's for sure

>>383254881
Obviously misrepresented a bit but I've played some 25 hours and so far it's not that off. The towns are great and comfy with charming characters, but they're small and the open world is pretty boring to explore. It's needlessly huge, sparse and feels very procedurally generated with little but the copy-pasted events to discover.

It's a really nice game but in the end it's very much the typical Nintendo kiddie game for people who enjoy collect-a-thons, crafting, survival and other open-world faffing about, as opposed the story-based RPGs like Dragon Age or Witcher.

>>383262995
And an arguement about (insert game) is better commences in 30 seconds...

>>383263216
>first reply
>shitposting anyway
Bravo

>>383259441
This game isnt out yet
It most likely wont be as awesome as it is shown here

>>383254116
what the fuck is the point of an open world game without sidequests?

>>383258571
nice

>>383254116

If they're interesting enough and have consequences on the main story AND/OR have mini-plotlines of their own and aren't easily missed, they can be a welcome addition from the main story.

>>383258841
Mh... You prove his point.
Also
>>383259118

>>383262510
There's a lot of random killing but even a lot of things like the loot chests usually have some little bits of writing or justification attached to them, and many of the killing side quests are pretty decently fleshed out, like that noon wraith in the well early on, or the leshen near the town.

Zelda doesn't even try in this department and is apparently better for it.

>>383261775
>witcher 3
>great story

my fucking sides

>>383254116
Open world games are only fun if they have great and fast traversal mechanics like Just Cause 2 and 3 or Prototype.

File: 1497931497271.jpg (39KB, 436x361px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 436x361px

>>383258169
>good Zelda games.
>good Zelda
>Zelda
>good

>>383262995
How is this webm bad?

>>383259463
right

>>383266770
its called sarcasm

>>383254116
I really liked both BotW and Witcher 3.
How does this make you feel?

>>383266000
So essentially open world games are only good as long as you can skip the open world...

File: the_witcher_3_wild_hunt_guide_walkthrough.jpg (80KB, 854x480px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 854x480px

Amazing how Witcherfags
>brag about dialogue when they most likely just breezed past the walls of text
>brag about having more quality side quests when it's mmo tripe like kill the pigs or escort the merchant
>brag about story that can be experienced the same and in better form through the source material: THE FUCKING BOOKS

Witcherfags will always resort to the same kind of bullshit TLOUfags fall back on: graphics and story. After all, how revolutionary is a game really, WHEN EVERYTHING GOOD ABOUT YOUR GAME CAN BE TOLD THROUGH A MOVIE?

>>383266938
It makes me feel like you have no standards. Good for you.

Amazing how this thread died from the truth I spit.

Goes to show that in some degree, Witcher games are indeed movie games lmao.

>>383268314
I have no standards because I liked 2 great games? That's some amazing logic, sweetie.

>>383255473
TW3 is a pretty excellent game, I personally didn't enjoy it as much as other people but I have to admit it's incredibly well made and CD Projekt Red did a fantastic job of defying a lot of the issues that large games like this tend to have.

Makes me pretty excited for Cyberpunk 2077, it'll be nice to have all of CD projekt's talent put into a real role playing game.

>>383268180
>even if a game is great it's actually not because it would have been better some other way

And what if I like great storytelling and characters giving a purpose to the combat and reason for exploring a world? Why does everything have to be one or the other with you people?

>>383254116
I genuninelly use W3 to sleep. I started it a year ago and I just reached Novigrad for the first time.

>>383269759
Because if the only thing you care about are the story and graphics, then games are not for you. There's books and movies to fill that desire.
Preferring linear experiences in gaming is not anything bad, but once you prop that shit over actual fucking revolutionary gameplay, then that's where I have to stop fags like you.
Books are meant to give you entertainment through well crafted storylines, characters, and worlds.
Movies give you entertainment mainly through servicing your visual and auditory senses, shit that books can't do. Good storylines, characters, and worlds are a bonus, because what's important is the presentation.
Games give you entertainment through player interaction and creating your own experience. Books and movies only guide you through experiences not your own. And as with movies, good storylines, characters, and worlds are a bonus, as well as graphics, since what's important is the gameplay.

YOU YOURSELF should be a motivation for anything the game wants you to accomplish, like combat, exploring a world, crafting armor, etc. That's why gameplay should be the foremost metric we measure games with, not story, plot, or characters despite those things enhancing a gaming experience.

It shouldn't take someone else's story for you to be interested in a game's mechanics, holy shit. Do you mean to say you're the kind of person who can only live vicariously through other people?

>>383254116
Anything that constitutes the idea of 'something to do' would be important to Open World games.

And even then, they have to be interesting and varied enough so the players don't get bored of it within the first 5 minutes.

>>383271159
>hey guys here are my opinions
>these are absolute facts by the way

>>383271329
>my game is better than your game because it would make a good movie
>these are absolute facts by the way

File: 20161106142119_1.jpg (296KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

296KB, 1920x1080px

>>383257424
if you say so

>>383271497
>I like being a well-crafted character and building its specialization, exploring the world and fighting stuff inside engaging plots with entertaining characters
>hurr durr you should watch a movie

>>383271834
>I can only enjoy something if it has the elements of a good book otherwise it can fuck off
you should really just watch a witcher movie or read the books

>>383254881
Nope, OP's image is a butthurt edit that is actually quite pro-BotW.

>>383272276
Good storytelling is the element of all narrative media, not only of books you massive illiterate autist.
BotW is a narrative work too, it's simply shit at it.

>>383255779
(You)

>>383254217
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

>>383272365
Good thing games are mainly interactive media, whaddya know!
As I've been telling you these past few posts, if you want good narrative media then GAMES AREN'T FOR YOU.
Games should survive off the strength of their gameplay. BOTW proved to be great despite the minimal instances of narration. Can TW3 be great by itself without the elements of the fucking books?

Imagine being a retard who wants to play Zelda games because he likes saving the princess over and over and over and over again. That's what you sound like. I bet you're a redditor too.

>>383271159
>if the only thing you care about
Case in point. No I like them all when they are combined and presented well, like in Witcher 3.

And video games are as much of a visual medium as anything else by now, otherwise you could just reduce every turn-based RPG to stats in a text-based browser game or Dark Souls to a Guitar Hero-like tapping of buttons on cue.

When it comes to combat games I can understand pure gameplay, but the pointless, meandering open-world games full of nothing but cooking and crafting and other repetitive/copypasted/disconnected events you seem to be championing sound like a Sims or Second Life-like experience replacing doing something for real with doing it virtually, so I don't think you have the right to judge anyone.

>>383272709
>Good thing games are mainly interactive media
That has jack to do with them being a narrative media you philistine piece of shit.
Every single game that tells something is a piece of narrative art, and as such can be held to the same standards as books.
You're a fucking idiot eating shit and defending it.
I don't even play Zelda games because they have always been shitty games with awful gameplay, awful plot and puzzles aimed at retarded weaaboos and elevens.

>>383272426
High quality post

>>383272980
High quality replies for high quality posts.

File: 1498715146727.jpg (104KB, 778x840px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 778x840px

>RDR2 will be the Zelda killer
>oh it got delayed? Horizon is the Zelda killer
>No wait, Just Cause 2 is the Zelda killer!
>NO WAIT IT WAS THE WITCHER 3 IT WAS THE WITCHER 3 ALL ALONG

>>383272780
>presented well
Keywords.
Presentation is one thing, what about execution?
Witcher 3 didn't execute combat well.
So how come TW3 fags discount BOTW's biggest strength in a media that calls for that strength?

>>383272892
>Every single game that tells something is a piece of narrative art
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
So Super Metroid with the galaxy at peace opening means it's fucking narrative media?
Seems to me you want games to be high culture.
Newsflash humongous faggot, games can be high culture but will never cater to shitty tastes like yours.
>I don't even play Zelda games because they have always been shitty games with awful gameplay, awful plot and puzzles aimed at retarded weaaboos and elevens.
>no mention of the basic ass story and plot whatsoever
So you hate everything gameplay related in a game, good to know, proving the points I had in my posts time and time again.
Watch a fucking movie then holy shit lol.

It's very disturbing for a """gamer""" to prefer movie elements in a game more than gaming elements themselves.

>>383254116
>this b8
so much for a reasonable conversation

>>383273474

Zelda really isn't as popular as you think.

>>383273670
>if I try hard enough I'll rewrite history and transform reality at will!
I will never understand the motivation behind posts like these.
Zelda is insanely popular you autist.

>>383260489
you know these aren't arguments against these games right?

>>383262000
Call of Duty is the biggest gaming franchise ever made
The consumers have made their choice.
Call of Duty is objectively the best video game series ever made.

>>383272780
I did say
>Preferring linear experiences in gaming is not anything bad
But you magically ignored it for some reason.

And please don't put words in my mouth
>but the pointless, meandering open-world games full of nothing but cooking and crafting and other repetitive/copypasted/disconnected events you seem to be championing sound like a Sims or Second Life-like experience replacing doing something for real with doing it virtually
Sandboxes are fun because they're not simulators.
Games always have a goal. They should have enough intelligence to play through seemingly disconnected events without help of narration.

File: 1499438348053.jpg (47KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 480x360px

>>383273670
Wow go play call of shit

>>383273476
I had no problems with the combat but I'm not autistic when it comes to analyzing stuff like that. Maybe it wasn't great mechanically or varied enough for a Hardcore Pro-Gamer Like Yourself™ but to me it felt pretty good and fluid pirouetting around and mixing it in with quick casting of signs.

And I started to get bored of Zelda's supposed fantastic combat after the 4th or 5th copypasted bokoblin outpost, and despite there not being much else to explore for, I started to wish for fewer enemy interruptions that gained me nothing but another broken weapon. It's hardly Dark Souls.

>>383254116
Absolutely.
I've been playing skyrim again, now to actually 100% it to see all the quests in it and I have to say that pretty much all of them are shit.
Actually, the most interesting things in that game actually ended up being journals of dead NPCs.
Not all the skeletons laying on the ground are there to set the mood of the places they're in

>>383273670
Your "facts" aren't as real as you think.

>>383273476
>So Super Metroid with the galaxy at peace opening means it's fucking narrative media?
It literally means that, yes.
>Seems to me you want games to be high culture.
I want games to not be garbage, if they bother to tell a story then I'm going to critizise it and just saying "it's a game it's supposed to be shit g-go read a book!" is not an excuse. Go play tetris if you want a pure gameplay experience with no narrative at all.