How do you go from this...

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>>383252058
...to this?

>>383252058
>We want the chuuni audience

>>383252058
anime

>>383253257
>Welkin
>Chuuni
???

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>hoped that the relative success of the steam and ps4 remasters of VC 1 would show Sega that there's still enough interest in seeing another entry to the series that focused on large scale battles again

>>383252147
anime was a mistake.

>>383252058
Game flopped hard in west AND Japan. It also got awful critic. They may have learned something from this.

>>383252058
>playing VC
>typical anime trash characters and writing completely and utterly lacking any subtlety
>suddenly enormous boobed femme fatale goes super saiyan and deflects tank shell with bare hands
>drop game

It's always been fucking stupid.

>>383254391
If it flopped how come so many sequels and spinoffs were made?

>>383254707
>Mfw people hate on VC2 (rightfully so) but it had significantly more civil war and less super saiyan anime fights

>>383254707
>>383255334
>I share a board invaded by fucking reddit

>>383254716
He meant the latest game, the 4th in the series.

Weirdly enough, the 3rd game was fucking amazing and sold a ton and got great reviews, so making the 4th game some goofy but edgy hack'n'slash JRPG made no sense at all.

>>383255468
Have you even played VC2? I know it's really bad story/ character-wise but it's one virtue is having significantly less anime women with magic powers, the one that does joins as a Scout and doesn't use her powers beyond her intro cutscene.

>>383252147
Is that a character from God Eater or am I getting shit mixed up here?

>>383254391
>SEGA
>learning anything
The only thing they will learn is that jrpg is dead genre.

>>383255468
>People who don't unconditionally worship Valkyria Chronicles 1 or have played more than a single Valkyria Chronicles game are reddit

>>383255728
Valkyria Revolution, part of the Valkryia series, I have no idea who the target audience even is.

>>383252147
>decent looking character design ruined by the japanese overcompensating for their microdick
They never fucking learn.

>>383255857
>jrpg
>dead genre

It's literally bigger than ever. Just because Falcom, Square Enix and Sega are run by incompetent retards doesn't mean the genre is dead.

>>383252147
>>383252058
>how do you
By not hiring Raita.

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Some SEGA execs made a bet about whether they can keep making a franchise consistently worse with every entry as a joke and they're actually doing it, the absolute madmen.

I just bought all three VC games because they're on sale.

Started on the first and someone was saying that Alicia was OP and that scouts were always better to use. Is this true? Just got to CH5 and I've needed a balanced team so far.

>>383255997
That's what I mean faggot. They always blame their incompetence to the market.
That or japs really think differently.

Seeing mikleo got top spot in that tales event really shaked my faith on jap market. Hopefully dq11 is good.

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>>383252147
>Literally one game ago this big dick alpha male was the protagonist, led his squad through campaign of suicide missions and even got laid and knocked up his waifu
>We get Trenchcoat McSnowflake with his giant sword and glowing hand instead for the next game

Why?

>>383256187

They get strong in terms of firepower once upgraded, but often times the objective is to secure an area which scouts can very efficiently do by just activating multiple times and rushing it, as opposed to more methodically clearing enemies out of the whole map.

VR fucking sucks so bad. I'm ok with developing plot if there is anything interesting going on, but this is not that. There's nothing going on in the characters and the battle system doesn't even redeem it. Jesus.

>>383256208
>Seeing mikleo got top spot in that tales event really shaked my faith on jap market

I'm actually suprised you feel that way, Tales has been a huge fujo franchise for years now. Velvet actually making it to the top 10 is FUCKING CRAZY since it's been forever since a girl even got close to that.

>>383256187
VC1 grades you purely on completion time, so the more you scout rush, the better you are rewarded. VC2 onwards grades you by time, allies incapacitated, enemies defeated and other stuff.

>>383256187
Scouts are op because later rifles got better aim, compounded with skill bonus or something i forgot, they tend to one shot everything including tanks. My suggestion is to learn as you go, it's more fun that way.
Main story line maps are walk in the park compared to skirmish map.

>>383256323
>>383256509
>>383256531

Thanks guys. I was wondering about grading actually, did seem a bit unfair that I wiped the map and claimed every base but only got a C rank!

I am enjoying it though. Oscar is my nigga, that guy snipes the fuck out of people.

>>383256418
>tales
>pander to fujoshit
>final fantashi
>start to pander to fujoshit
Fuck man. Sooner or later mainstream=fujo. Still better than sjwshit but it getting grating.

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>>383253902
It's sad because, whilst the original was a bit boring and flawed, they had a new style of SRPG and instead of building on it, making it faster, sleeker, more enjoyable to play, they scaled it down, made portable versions, and then left it to die.

>>383256130
>VC1 was super anime complete with tsunderes and beach scenes
>VC2 ramped up the anime to the extreme, VC1 fans complain
>VC3 severely tones it down and has less anime than even VC1 and is a lot darker
>VC1 fans complain about the lack of goofy anime pandering and call it "edgy"

WHAT DO YOU WANT

DO YOU WANT SERIOUS

OR GOOFY ANIME

MAKE UP YOUR MIND

NO WONDER VALKYRIA REVOLUTION IGNORED THE FANS ENTIRELY AND WAS IT'S OWN THING

>>383257154
>making it faster, sleeker, more enjoyable to play, they scaled it down, made portable versions, and then left it to die

Which is funny when 2 and 3 actually had some semblance of balance compared to 1. No one ever talks about the gameplay, just "the graphics engine/ map size".

>>383252058
People liked anime faggot from the 3rd game

>>383252147
Autism.

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>>383257418
>anime faggot from the 3rd game

U wot m8?

>>383257532
Exactly
Looks like trash anime designed mc soldier

>>383252147
>Valkria Revolution could have been an anime version of the Spring Of Nations, depicting a culture throwing back a massive homogenous empire and becoming an independent nation

>>383257175
I considered giving you a reply consisting of multiple sentences but then I realized there's simply no way anyone could legitimately hold those opinions and be smarter than my dog, and that you don't even know the difference between it's and its, so I'll pass.

>>383257608
Sure, anon, whatever you say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHRZES6FRYA

>>383257787
Nice to know you probably only played the 1st game like most of the fanbase.

For once, the Japanese fans are somehow less cancerous than the Western fans.

>>383257175
VC1 had a balance of stuff. A distinct visual style and theme coupled with some animu tropes.

VC3 went too far in one direction. It made away with the retarded high school theme of VC2, but also took a wrong turn into brooding edgelord alley. Also oversized swords and shit. Fucking stupid.

>>383256245
If it wasn't for the sword the trenchcoat guy's design would be less chuuni and make way more sense then the guy you just posted. His outfit is literally nonsensical.

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If I buy the Edelweiss for World of tanks will Sega make a VC 4?

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>>383252058
>he's part of a militia
>and has that uniform
Don't you think his uniform looks way too formal and standardized to be in a militia?

>>383258078
Pretty much. To even imply one is "more anime" than the other already shows you're dealing with an idiot. They just have very different stylistic choices, and out of the three of them only the first game has a style that someone who's older than 12 and has no crippling mental issues could appreciate.

>>383257175
A more restrained VC1 would've been perfect.

Did they fix orders in 3?

>>383257873
>Nice to know you probably only played the 1st game like most of the fanbase.
That shouldn't be a surprise to you in any way.
The first game was the only one worth playing.

Do you really go out of your way to play every installment of a game when the height of the series was the first?

>>383258078
>VC3 went too far in one direction. It made away with the retarded high school theme of VC2, but also took a wrong turn into brooding edgelord alley. Also oversized swords and shit. Fucking stupid.
You tell me the what's "edge lord valley" about Vc3, when everyone is either convicts with real criminal background or righteous people being at wrong place and wrong time trying to stay alive because the higher-ups are a bunch of cock suckers who don't want their hands dirty.
And that fucking "big weapon" argument again, aside from Melee ones, all firearms are regular size and Lancer weapons have always been big because you need to punch through tank armor
>it's another episode of /v/shitting on the game based on a single art work

>>383259254
>I didn't play a game but I will still shit talk about it as if I played throughout it all
Ok

>>383258389
Any nation that has military most likely has a military surplus.
Not that far fetched; it's like being able to purchase a desert storm 'chocolate chip' uniform today.

>>383259530
By all means keep shitposting.
The games past the first are hated for heavily embracing everything cringey about current day anime.
I am fully aware of the awkward segments in the first

>>383258389
The Gallan "militia" is a militia in the European sense that they rely on a draft of previously trained civilians upon the outbreak of war.

A lot of countries in Europe did it and most the time they were given very similar equipment to the standing army.

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>>383259784
>it's OK when vc1 does it
15/10 you make me really mad, have a (you)

>>383260262
Enjoy your games no one bought or wanted to buy I guess?

>>383252058
Just post selvaria

>women are part of armed forces
That series was always trash

>>383254707
In the first the anime tiddie super saiyan shit was treated appropriately, as a crazy thing that nobody knew what the fuck, not as the standard that the setting should be set to

I saw gameplay of VC1 and it seemed interesting. It's worth giving the franchise a shot or do i play just the original?

>>383260505
This.

>>383252058
>>383252147
Both look fucking stupid but the second is worse

Japs actually think this looks cool

>HURR XD MASSIVE FUCKIGN SWRODS THAT COULD BARELY FIT THROUGH DOORWAYS SO FUCKING COOL AND EPIC LMAO
>Edgelord trenchcoat
>Straps with no purpose fucking everywhere

>>383257532
COMMANDA SHEPARDOOOOOOO!

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I've only played VC1 and I think Selvaria is a great character.....please dont tell me the woman in the background of this image is Selvaria. And if it isnt her......IT'S STILL JUST FUCKING HER! Why do they shit on their own series so much.
Fucking hate this trash weaboo pandering battlefield Hime-chan bullshit.

I've heard VC2 is about prisoners forming a blackops tank squad to work off their jailtime, is it as cool as it sounds?

>>383260262
Of course it's okay, because VC1 does it different. VC1 is like YKK, where it achieves a great balance between quirkiness and real life inspiration and absolutely nails its art style to compliment that, it's stylized but appropriately militaristic and not too flashy. VC2 is solely inspired by your average high school anime. And VC3 by your average ""dark"" shonen anime like Owari no Seraph or D Gray Man, just pure trash. You have to be an absolute philistine to not be able to see the obvious differences and to not understand why the three distinct target audiences don't overlap.

>>383261172
I dunno man, besides the oddly placed ammo pouch and the knee pad, that uniform looks ok to me, he is a tank commander after all.

>Captcha: Belts
Fuck you skynet, stop reading the context of these posts!

>>383261651
it's high school shit

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>>383261172
Meanwhile, here's what your typical westernfag thinks is cool.

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>>383261661
Fuck off with your anime anology. Get straight to the point and tell me exactly what makes Vc3 "edgy" without the "bigass sword"
Can't believe I'm still biting all these baits

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>>383261651
>I've only played VC1 and I think Selvaria is a great character
>Fucking hate this trash weaboo pandering battlefield Hime-chan bullshit.
>implying Selvaria or any valkyria in the series is about anything else

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I loved the first Valkyria Chronicles but then they moved to PsP and when it finally returns to consoles they make this trash.

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I don't know why everyone gets so upset about azure revolution.

sure, it isn't like the previous games but the game itself for what it is is fun to play .

the only thing bothering for me about the game is that the main character doesnt have at least his class customizable.

>>383261651
>I've heard VC2 is about prisoners forming a blackops tank squad to work off their jailtime, is it as cool as it sounds?
That's actually Vc3, and yeah it got quite a roster of characters with great background story. Game wasn't localized but there's fan translation

>>383258389

Military uniforms look like that in every part of the world but burgerland anon.

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>>383262241
Can you really call these posts bait when they not only outnumber your opinion, but you're also the only one replying to them?

Why can't we ever get to play as the Empire?

>>383263720
Do you mean the Imperial Alliance?
Did you not play the extra content or do you mean an entire game?

>>383263720
It'd be pretty cool if you had a cast as big as the militia, but on the opposite side.
I guess the problem is they're seen as the evil faction so it'd probably only work if they lost no matter what or the game had two endings.

>>383258339
>playing WOT

KYS

>>383263720
if i remember correctly you can with the very first valkyria chronicles.

there is a side story about some nameless soldier working under selvaria.

>>383264451
Remember when the evil factions got campaigns as well? Why must we live in such a consensus ridden time.

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>>383257175
>VC1 was super anime complete with tsunderes and beach scenes
Oh yeah that's right, VC3 definitely has none of these things.

>>383265292
Can only hope it becomes a trend again..

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>series runs for four games, only girl that gets popular is Selvaria and her clones, none of the cute girls you could add to your squad in the first game
>tfw no doujins about qt pyromaniac grill

>>383265581
>series runs for four games, only girl that gets popular is Selvaria and her clones, none of the cute girls you could add to your squad in the first game
Edy's Squad has been in 1,2,3.
Now how they came up for the selection for that Squad I don't know, I doubt these were the most popular side characters, except for Marina.

>>383266468
I actually got annoyed when I saw in VC3 they seemingly bumped up Edy to be Rosie/Largo status as the main VC1 cast, like fuck off.

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>2018
>Sega announces new Valkyria game
>Plays like the first game but better, bigger maps, more features, planes/helicopters implemented somehow, balanced so that scouts and tanks aren't the only good units
>No swords or big over the top weapons besides lancer anti-tank launchers
>No Selvaria clone
>Setting is changed to Valkyria universe equivalent of the Cold War with Gallian forces stopping some violent extremist movement that uses guerrilla warfare against the player
>(Fortunate son intensifies)
>Story isn't too dark and edgy or too upbeat, fitting of the more grey morality of the setting, writing is less cliche
>Characters are all wearing more grounded looking military uniforms but with believable differences like wearing their jackets differently and adding personal touches to their helmets

How does /v/ react?

>>383267860
positively until the game is actually released, then negatively because it's popular and therefore cool to hate.

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You can argue about the story/art design all day, but that won't change the fact that VC was a failed experiment gameplay-wise since the very beginning.
Like trying to play chess, but there's no board and the queen can move as many times as she wants.

>>383267860
>No Selvaria clone
I need my torpedo tit waifu. I'd probably buy the game anyways, but please don't do this to me.

>>383269185
The biggest issue has always been that the only objective is to capture the flag. Skirmishes means jackshit, just defense up Alicia and win in the first turn.

>>383254707
I'll give you a hint: nobody played Valkyria Chronicles for the story.

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>>383269340
Just get the artist to make new character design with pointy tits, and preferably more personality.

>>383257012
A large part of the rank score is the number of turns it takes you to complete the map, which ties in to how overpowered Scouts are.
That being said, Scouts are only overpowered when you're applying crazy hyper-optimized strategies to complete every map in the game in one turn (aside from two boss tank maps which force multiple turns). That being said, a deciding factor that makes that crazy shit possible is Alicia herself, who gets some god-tier personal skills via plot.
On your first playthrough, your team is going to need far more balance, because the Scouts won't be fully upgraded with great guns, Alicia won't have her best skills, and you won't have the truly gamebreaking Commands. So don't worry about all of this talk about Scouts, and just play the game the way you have been so far.

If any of you guys play World of Tanks you get a fully controlable
Edelweiss right now.

>>383252147
>featuring dante from the devil may cry series

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>>383252058
>>383252147
This is how.

>>383257175
Fans were happy with VC1, the only way to make it better would be to rear in the anime tropes and make the plot/world interesting.
Instead they took VC2 to the extreme with all the animu bullshit, so of course fans were unhappy.
Then they took VC3 in the complete opposite direction into edgelord territory, which nobody ever wanted (at least there were some fags who wanted more animu shit after VC1), and yet it STILL had anime tropes bogging it down. So not even the people looking for a more serious yet darker story could be completely happy with VC3.

Literally all they had to do was build on the first game's foundation, but instead they keep wanting to take the tone and story in completely different directions for no reason, while shrinking the gameplay for mobile platforms.
And now for VC4, regardless of where the plot is taken, they've completely gutted and replaced the gameplay with something superficially similar.

>>383270293
>using a fictional anime tank in a bad P2W tank game

Why?

Just use the Edelweiss in VC for a setting where it fits and go play War Thunder for a better tank game.

>>383260262
It's not okay, the anime bullshit is widely considered the worst part of VC1. It's just overlooked by every sensible person because it's better to focus on the charming cast of character, semi-serious yet comfy tone, and really cool, unique gameplay.

>>383270952
War Thunder is boring.

>>383265581
That unlockable lancer girl from the first game, I think her name was Audrey? She's was 10/10.

>>383270912
>instead they keep wanting to take the tone and story in completely different directions for no reason, while shrinking the gameplay for mobile platforms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%C3%A1pagos_syndrome

Also taken from an interview
>Ozawa: Back during the domestic release of VC1, Alicia and Isara along with other cute girls were used as visuals during marketing, but the moment people noticed a tank, they'd comment "Isn't this a Western game? Won't there be clashing iron and bloodletting?" There were quite a few cases of this interpretation so in order to ease those concerns we placed VC2 in a school setting to redirect those notions.
>Mikami: Of course, there are many people who share your opinion of enjoying the rougher side of the military. In addition to what Ozawa was talking about before, within Japan there is a lack of familiarity regarding gun culture. In the most extreme examples people would find them very frightening.
>Ozawa: "Swinging a sword" is fantasy, but "shooting a gun" evokes a much more raw feeling, doesn't it?

>>383267860
I'd be ecstatic, but VC isn't a hugely popular franchise so I doubt there'd be a huge hype wave.

>>383270778
VC1: Perfect if you can accept the little bit silliness inherent to the Lances.
VC2: Literally quirky anime highschool, what were they thinking.
VC3: Would be good if it weren't for the metric clusterfuck of oversized anime melee weapons in a WW2 setting of all things.

>>383267860

/v/ hates video games

This one won't make an exception

>>383271535
Once again Nips show off their shit taste. Ozawa should defect to a western company to make VC5.

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>>383270778
Fucking VC2 is such a mess. It's like they tried to make more unique characters but circled back around to full on generic.

>>383252058
>>383252147
Still no PSO2 for the west

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VC1 is my favorite PS3 game, and 1 of my top 10 games ever. I was disappointed in VC2, and I didn't want to jump through hoops to play VC3, whivh didn't look that great.

When VR got announced for PS4 I was hopeful for a return to form. The character designs looked gay AF, but OMFGGGGG YASUNORI MITSUDA is completely in charge of composing the OST.

For the first time in many years, I pre-ordered a game. Instantly, the music was phenominal. But everything else was utter shit. I sludged through tge first mission, took the game out, and I will never ever touch it again. Feelsbadman.

Why is Sega SO dumb? It's crystal clear that VC1 is very well liked. They hired the best VGM composer and developed a console sequel... so why? Why did they have to deviate SO far from the original game that's do well liked?

VR feels like rape.

>>383271989
Its one thing to just have shit taste, it's a huge fucking leap for a company to say fuck it to anyone outside their own little world and act like its a failure if Japan alone doesn't like it so they pander like fuck to them.

And the end result is congratulations now no one likes it.

>>383270778
Why you do this to me AGAIN japan?

W H Y?

>>383271782
The funny thing is the actual game has very little of that.

>>383272937
>Why did they have to deviate SO far from the original game that's do well liked?
Dude
>>383271535
Here's the whole interview as well: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1277368

inb4 someone spegs out about linking to neogaf

People complaining about the "giant swords" in VC3 literally, literally haven't even played it. They're not a thing in the story like in Revolution and even in gameplay they have very situational uses and your better off using guns in most cases anyway.

I can understand not like the general aesthetic and thinking it's edgy, but like if you think the game was "ruined" because of giant swords or whatever then you literally only looked at some artwork and based your entire opinion off of that. This is objective fact. Selvaria with her lance does way more anime bullshit than anything in the entirety of 3.

>>383273556
I love this mentality of people so sure no one has played VC3 that they think they are free to downplay shit without anyone knowing better.

>What are all the Imca fight scenes?
>If you want to gimp yourself and have absolutely no Fencers when they would give best results in certain situations, what are enemy units?

This might just be me personally but I found Imca's mass lock on missile launcher sword that can also transform into every weapon type and nobody questions was much more anime bullshit than just pure magic.

>>383274613

I thought the Calamity Raven twerp being able to cross an entire map just to one-shot your tank, or the leader becoming invincible through sheer willpower, just as damning.

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>>383275223
While playing it I was thinking man I wonder what they'll do for the Final Boss this time, another Artificial Valkyria, some war machine?

mfw I got there

>>383270778
Know what I like about VC1 lancers? They look like they're physically capapble of using such a weapon.

>>383267860
>No Selvaria clone
Change this too
>Selvaria clone is the main heroine

and you'd have /v/ tearing off their dicks in a mastubatory orgy.

How the fuck did VC past 1 get a defense force? Is it just one person?

>>383265481
Imca is autistic, not tsundere.

>>383271782
>Would be good

Yeah, nah. Every fucker needs to look like a cheap MUGEN fighting game character to highlight their quirky personality and their DARK PASTS because this is the unit of special snowflakes who all carry that weight! Like Imca whose village got burnt in front of her eyes when she was a kid, even the women and children :(((( and now she lives for revenge wielding her ginormous bladecannon horseshit weapon. Badass! Radical!

Nothing but cancer.

>but VC1 was anime too!
Yeah and those are the worst fucking parts

>>383270778
>VC1
>lancers are held by the big guys 4 u
>VC3
>every twink motherfucker has some giant melee weapon

>>383277209
Got to say I never thought about it like that, maybe that's why I did not mind Lancer's weapons in 1 at all in comparison to lancers in 3 (in the artwork, ingame everyone can be a lancer) and giant anime buster swords. Although the later I don' think you could ever make it look believable.

>>383278552
>that gay ass homosexual
>Big guy.

>>383274613

No one said melee units were useless, but they are situational like you pointed out. From a gameplay perspective though people act like you have sword units to bum rush tanks or enemy units in general which results in death most of the time because they get gunned down quick.

Not not to the defend the direction Revolution went in or anything, but I just don't like the two-faced nature of people defending all the anime stuff in VC1 just because it did it first but damning it everywhere else.

>>383271535
>Ozawa: "Swinging a sword" is fantasy, but "shooting a gun" evokes a much more raw feeling, doesn't it?
Which is kind of why VC1 works. It's pretty direct about war being war. That's what makes it feel unique. It's normal people who also happen to be defending their homes against armed invasion.

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>>383278641
Hey let me cherry pick in peace.
I forgot about the female lancers too

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>>383277209

>They look like they're physically capapble of using such a weapon

I like VC1 too, but you're full of shit mate. 1 had its fair share of Lancers that looked like they'd get blown away from the kickback of firing a hand-held missile too.

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>>383270778
1 and 3 happen at the same time.
2 takes place years after 1/3.
This isn't difficult people.
Look it the fuck up.

>>383278641
That homo is total bro. I won't let anyone shit talk him. Fite me.

>>383279139
and how is that supposed to excuse it exactly

>it's another people shit on VC3 without having played it episode
Every VC thread ever.

>>383274613
Except this guy but he's still pulling shit out of his ass because Fencers are absolute dogshit in 3. You should NEVER even touch swords in VC3. Forget they exist.

Also Imca is the only over the top anime thing in VC3. Everything else is as grounded as it was in VC1. It's also why Riela > Imca.

>>383278783
>From a gameplay perspective though people act like you have sword units to bum rush tanks
Not sure how much swinging giant war hammers around is preferred or not but that's exactly the intended way they designed Armored Techs to be used as an attacker, it doesn't work well for the player but its exactly how the NPC uses it even on infantry units.

>>383279538
Technological advancement and them being students dealing with urban terrorists excuses 2.
They're prisoner soldiers in 3.

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Is incredible obvious how people that never played VC3 always bash it because of the big swords and shit (I think is the same 1-2 autists everytime anyway, there is very low IP count in VC threads).

Characters are much better written and well developed, more clases, better balance (specially in regards to scouts) and unit positioning (both sides) is more important and improve the gameplay significantly (S ranks now need some work instead of being facerolls), the atmosphere is darker than even the first game...I would even argue that multiple maps is a smart change because you have to protect and attack faster (which is one of the reasons scouts were so useful) and deploying your units requires more thought.

It's overall the best game in the series besides graphics. If this game had the budget of VC1, it would''ve been game of the decade contender.

>>383279946
>its okay that the developers made 2 anime as fuck garbage because the setting they made for it excuses it
are you autistic? serious question

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>>383279070
>that looked like they'd get blown away from the kickback of firing a hand-held missile too.

Missile launchers/recoilless rifles don't kick, everything goes out the rear of the tube, that's how a human can fire something with the power of a tank shell and not die.

Some VC lancers don't like like they'd have the strength to lift up and aim the weapons though.

>>383279774

Armored Techs were supposed to be a mostly support unit that let you advance safely while shielding other allies and being able to repair sandbags and stuff. But there's very few situations where that's actually useful and it's more reliable to have your units use the environment for cover anyway.

Fencer were them going "hey, what if we took Scout rushing from VC1 and made it into an actual class"? They're supposed to be able to just run up to infantry and kill them fast but that works just as well as you'd expect against enemy shock troopers and tanks. It's high risk for little rewards.

They were neat ideas but weren't really balanced that well.

>>383280191
The weapons and armament they use in 3 are prototypes that could blow up in their faces since they're expendable prisoners.

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>>383280191
Nope but it actually is. Deal with it.

>>383280191

I don't think he was trying to excuse it, but rather give an explanation for why things got a little wackier in 2.

1: Militia using "basic" weaponry
3: Expendable unit using prototype weapons
2: Improved version of the prototype weapons from 3 so there's less of a chance of someone losing an arm

Not defending 2's setting, but that's how the technology advanced.

>>383280418
how is that relevant
>>383280527
>Nope but it actually is.
it actually isn't though
you're trying to excuse a real life decision through a fictional universe excuse
that's some hardcore autism

>>383279570
What a shitter. Tell me whats a better class than Fencer to kill multiple high health/crouched units in one action that flamethowers cant?

Fencers are definitely situational but not at the tier of never using one if you are trying to go for least turns possible on defense/kill all maps.

>>383280751
It actually is though.

>>383279070
>kickback of firing a hand-held missile

ayy lmao, 9 year old boys were using panzerfausts to kill tanks in Berlin.

>>383279070
As cool as the lances are and the sick medievalesque aesthetic they give the game, would they be any more practical or powerful than a historic AT weapon?

>>383281006
seek help

>>383281026

That just reinforces the point that body build doesn't matter so saying that the Lancers in VC1 look like they could handle the weapons doesn't mean shit.

>>383252058
I really liked the uniform designs, the characters, while still animu as fuck were still subdued compared to the usual medium.

I lament what happened to the series, what a waste.

>vc thread
>no anime tiddies

I'm waiting

I haven't played 2 or 3 but 1 was a snorefest. The gameplay idea was cool in concept but balanced terribly even without abusing Orders. If you didn't abuse Scouts you only other option was to just slowly creep along which made maps drag out and become tedious. It wasn't especially difficult to the point where you were encouraged to be careful either aside from a couple of missions.

Story was ho-hum. Like the gameplay it had a nice presentation but the character development was really ham-fisted and predictable and nothing about the plot really jumped out either.

I feel like this is one of those series that's actually mediocre but people highly overrate one over the others just because it isn't as bad as the rest. Like how people do with Star Ocean 2.

>>383281307
Yeah, I can see why they tried to cater to fans of the most popular anime genres instead of staying more grounded, but it's still a fucking tragedy they ruined the franchise with the two garbage PSP titles.

>>383280378
I think armored techs were made the way they were specifically with VC2 coop in mind, because they become so much useful there when multiple people can move at one time.

In fact thinking about some of that games gameplay decisions like grinding, titles, lobbies, naming your squad, HUD quirks it almost looks like to me like that game was going to have online like PSO or monster hunter but at some point they said fuck it and it was made local only.

>>383282715
There also seemed to be incentives to playing multi like the trade in coins (tho kinda shitty reward), having more "leader units" than 3 as well as being able to have 9 units on your side unlike how it locks it to 6 in single player.

>>383281026
lances are bigger than panzerfausts.