Find a flaw

I have no specific issues with this game, but I had to force myself to bother finishing it doubt I'll ever replay it.

It's just not that fun.

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>>383250407
No controller support.

>>383250557
git gud

Last time i tried to play online with a friend the quests were very buggy and didn't work.
I understand is part of the setting/balance, but 6 weapon types always feel too low.
No new expansion

No Soulvizer for anniversary

>>383250407

Boring as hell. Builds are about single or two active abilities plus tons of passives, fight is not intense or interesting, I actually had to force myself to finish it with my warrior/assasin or how the class combination was called.

Grim Dawn is improvement in this matter and more polished and balanced TQ but still not as good as Diablo 2, which reminds the best h&s ever created.

>>383250407
Pacing.

repetetive and slow

>>383251348
D2 is severely overrated

>>383250407
Boring and repetitive
Dozens of skills and you only use one or two
Overpowered after Greece making the rest of the game a dull slog
Uninspired derivative gameplay

It was slightly different when it came out but now there is no reason for it to be played

>>383250407
There are three things in the game that have physical reflect. One is a mob before the final boss(base game) and the boss itself during a certain buff. The other is a gimmick skelly in a treasure side room.
All three can leave you to one shot yourself without warning. Either put more reflect mobs in the game or tune the reflect value to less than 100% of your own damage.

>>383251545
Name a better game in the genre

>>383251689
>>383251696
>>383251348
Did you even play the annivesary edition? I doubt it. It was released just 1 year ago. It fixed most of the issues.

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>>383250407
Why did PC games always have terrible boxart?

>>383251862

I have tons fo other games to play. Why should I even touch or consider playing "annivesary edition" of game that bored be to sleep before?

>>383251862
>what do you mean this game is boring and a chore to play
>buy the anniversary edition, it fixes everything

Boring as shit. Last 5 levels take longer than korean grinders. Can't refund masteries. Rubberbanding.

played before anni edition. it was mind numbing for an arpg.

>>383250407
Final boss is bullshit hard and you've gotta run for 2 minutes every time you die to him.

>>383251348
D2 is exactly what you described. Pick one skill and dump passives. The atmosphere is top notch but it has the same shit gameplay as most of the genre.

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>>383252118
>>383252121

>>383252284
Idiot.

>>383252284
hey if you don't want you people to criticize your game, then don't talk about it. jesus, so butthurt that your game isn't circlejerked.

>>383252173
>Pick one skill and dump passives

My gameplay was direct opposite - I was frequently switching between various skills, resulting in very intense combat - and this was viable way to play.

"ULTIMATE BUILD, ONE WEAPON, ONE ARMOR, ONE SKILL FINAL DESTINATION", "endgame" builds are shit and worst aspect of every single h&s ever made and perfectly anti-fun. Also, the reason why I couldnt get ANY tips about skills and traits in Path fo Exile because everyone was like "HURR REACH MAX LEVEL FIRST AND FIND ALL THOSE EXTREMELY RARE ITEMS SO YOU CAN EVEN THINK ABOUT MAKING A BUILD".

no two-handed weapons

>>383252069
It's free if you own the game on Steam

>>383250407
Awful wet noodle animations
Most generic, uninspired royalty free sound effects
Boring skill trees (pick one skill and buff it with procs there's your entire build)
Awful engine that can't handle large quantities of enemies at the same time

Overall, it's just really boring

>>383252359
Did you even know which genre you picked? All ARPGs are mind-numbing, even your precious Diablo 2. That's kind of the point. You start the game and can immediately start slaying shit and collecting shit. It's fast food in game form.

This doesn't mean that the game itself is bad. Go play Hearts of Iron if you want something more mentally demanding.

>>383252173
>d2
>passives
?

>>383252434
That shit turned me off poe completely

>>383252631

Maybe he was thinking about synergies. There are some passive skills in D2 anyway. Or my memory fails me.

>>383252705
The barb has a few but the rest have like 1 or 2.

>>383252689

Oh and I forgot about retards posting that extremely annoying pasta about "SO YOU THINK YOU JUST MADE LEVEL 100 BUILD BLAH BLAH BLAH", when I just wanted to ask about general rules for building characters for fun SP rolls of basic storyline or if it was possible to make character like Assassin from Diablo 2, holy fuck.

>>383252434
Protip: The best ways to play h&s is to ignore all guides and all builds and dive straight into the action and experiment YOURSELF and try to find the best build yourself.

It is infinitely more rewarding to find one of the best builds by chance, but accept that you can't blast through the game with the best instead of following slavishly some retarded guide some autist made step after step.

>>383250407
I bought it but it doesn't interest me enough to play it.

>>383252907
No the best way to play is google the most powerful build for the most powerful class and only play that because you are unimaginative and probably Russian.

>>383250954
you have to be in a group together i think

>>383252907

In case of PoE it would kinda means making several characters just to learn something that thousands of people before you tested out already. Which is why I always try to ask people around first and this is why I was so very upset about this behaviour, especially the counter-productive "HURR I SPENT 1000 HOURS TESTING BUILDS YOU HAVE TO DO THAT TOO", which is more like wasting time from my perspective, than having fun.

>>383252907
>h&s

What's that?

>>383251760
diablo 3

>>383253173

>comes to thread about hack & slash game
>"whats hack & slash?"

Go to bed Timmy.

>>383253029
That's fucking cheating though. Might as well download a savefile with the strongest character on lv 75.

You didn't create that build, someone else did. Someone who took the time to get acquainted with the game and it's mechanics and experimented a lot to find the best one. And that dude probably had hell of a lot fun doing it.

Do you really enjoy letting other people think for yourself?

>>383253253
I thought it was a game's name not genre

The biggest problem with TQ and Grim Dawn is that the game have no end game.
After you played through the game there is no reason to farm equip or get more lvls.
Diablo 3 gives everyone set items like candy and only 1-2 characters per season are useful. Also $15 for a single character class.
PoE is streamer shit and the developers sell items through chinese websites. Also only 1-2 builds are viable every season. Trading is annoying shit.

>>383253376
wow

>>383250407
it's just too long and too slow

Skill system and loot is best in class and the graphics are still decent for today

>>383251545
seriously.

Most tedious action and underdone skill system, lots of effort put into art assets but the game just creates empty paddocks or maze types.

>>383253453
You can turn up the speed now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYnZKfl66kI

>>383253420
>that the game have no end game.
You unlock the next difficulty. The next difficulty has better drops and stronger monsters.

How is that not an endgame?

>>383252907
I went into TQ blind and just by paying attention to item stats and thinking a bit I made an OP build. That's the problem with the game - unless you are a complete retard any build you create will make the game boring by the end of Greece alone.

>>383253714
>complete this boring slog of a game
>so you can do it again

>>383253420
>The biggest problem with TQ and Grim Dawn is that the game have no end game.
>After you played through the game there is no reason to farm equip or get more lvls.

If you can get through 3 levels of difficulty you have Crucible mode and the Roguelike dungeons

Then you can spend hundreds of hours on another build

Don't know what else you want

>>383250407
It´s fucking boring from start to finish, and an incredible slog to boot.

>>383252441
This so much!

>>383253714
As someone who has almost 450 hours in grim dawn and like half a dozen or so max lvl characters i have to agree that a character becomes boring extremely fast once or even while you are doing the story the second or third time.
Luckily due to the variation in builds you can do it has a lot of replay value but I'd still probably have at leas twice my current game time with some proper endgame thats not midnless the bumrushing of the crucible or farming for even more purples

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>Hanging gardens is just a dungeon instead of a whole chapter
>It just have generic monsters instead of mesopotamic ones

The expansion was literally better than the whole base game

if it only had an endgame and if only the gameplay was as good as the setting and atmosphere, TQ would be an improvement over D2

>>383255070
only good thing about D2 was the atmosphere when it was new

>>383250407
>watch me pick the best skills combat and click mouse button fest
>randumb weapon drops
>le summon le kraken maymays
>grind ,grind ,grind
it's isometric Borderlands

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>typhon took on all of the gods by himself and they couldnt beat him
>final boss of the expansion is one god
Fuck Hades being the bad guy trope too.

>>383253701
the second speed is what titan quest should have originally been
holy fuck it makes the game so much better

better than diablo

>>383258102
a bucket of vomit is better than diablo

>>383256443
I can understand why they go with Hades, he has his own realm after all. But they should have gone with other mythology for the expansion.

>>383250407
Repetitive slow-paced grindfest with retarded out of whack balancing in the late-game.

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>>383250407
>Find a flaw

>>383258260
you don't sound cool or anything, just upset, for some reason

It feels pretty dumb to play it but I guess that applies to most arpg

>>383250407
Never played it due to lack of time.

>>383250407
The writing turns you off the moment you talk to the first NPC and the ludonarrative dissonance is MASSIVE in the game and never lets up. There's no illusion that you're doing anything other than treading a wheel like an idiot. It would literally be better if they removed all dialogue.
I can't play it for more than 2 hours. Have tried multiple times.

Really want to like the game but it is sooooo boring

>>383256282
>it's isometric Borderlands
You must be over 18 to post here

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>>383259779
Are you fucking kidding me?