Is this the dark souls of rpgs?

>>383246418
>is this the dark souls of ______ cliché
No it's a game with Lovecraft shit like a lot of games have now a days. Stop comparing shit to Dark Souls Miyazaki dick ridding fuck.

>>383246707
Riding*
Fuck

It's a comfy game that really benefits from playing it like it was a mobile game; in 15-30 minute sessions to not end fed up with the RNG twists and grindy gameplay

Nothing more
Nothing less

>>383246707
So it's the bloodborne of rpgs....

>>383246418
no it's the coocike clicker of RPG

Haven't touched it since the beta/early access.
Did put up around 40 hours on it back then, was alight

how is the casual mode? does it make the game actually enjoyable instead of rngcity fucking you over?

>>383246898
it reduces the mobile game tier grind but not the rng

>>383246707
What board is the Dark souls of 4chan?

>rng grindan adventure
>comparing it to DaS
you must be 18 to post here

>>383246829
Dark Souls is Lovecraftian af too anon.

>>383246997
/trash/

>>383246792
That is why it is perfect to play on the vita

>want a darkest dungeon thread
>instead I get a dark souls aspie thread

>>383246418
>completely rng based
>permanently lose huge amounts of progress (character levels) if you die

It's nowhere close

>>383248285
>mmmmuh rng
but when you were rolling dices in old rpgs then no one complained

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>>383248285
There's no game over condition, which offsets all of the RNG horsecockery

Best theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMXy3mYzkws

>>383248736
Doesn't it end after 100 weeks?

>>383248828

That's only if you play Stygian mode.

>>383248285
mods, they don't even affected achievements, mod the game so gameplay is fun for you. its a SP game, do what you want.

I want to make a custom skin for the abomination. Give me ideas dudes.

I barely had any deaths on my 2nd run, I have like 10 fags in the graveyard and everyone is at level 3 4 and 5.

There's some RNG with criticals but if you have a plan B and know when to quit a mission instead of sending your guys to their deaths you cut out a lot of the so called "grind"

>>383246898
The game was already enjoyable, and already too easy to abuse tons of stuff like blight.

My main problem isn't the RNG, as it can fuck you over just as much as it can make runs effortless, its the fact that if the RNG does decide to fuck you over the grind to get you back to where you were is a bit too much.

Is there a mod that replaces the arbalest with a human?

>>383249475
yes check nexus, top files

Is OP memeing? Don't get any Dark Souls vibes other than sometimes it's sort of hard. Really liking this game, it's the first dungeon crawler I've ever really played so the start was rocky for sure but once I start putting some thought into things it really started getting enjoyable. I love the idea that not every character is a superhero, really makes it a big deal when they do something good like positive resolve checks.

>>383249475

I'm pretty sure there a lot of Arbalest mods at the nexus.

>>383249458
Not really, once you upgrade your shit you can spawn level 1 and 2 characters and just do 3 short missions to get exactly where you were.

You need the suspense of losing something to make the big victories really matter.

this isn't final fantasy, your guys are supposed to get killed

>>383249538
Didn't you know X-COM was inspired by Dark Souls II?

>>383249639

This, once you realize that your dudes are disposable meat, you'll easily get over the loss of them dying. It's also not that long to grind them from say lv2 to 5 anyway. I sometimes even start kicking some lv4s to make room for some noobs just to keep getting apprentice level dungeons.

>>383249726
Nope, I don't frequent /v/ alot so most of the memes are lost on me. Frequented here even less when Dark Souls II was released.

>>383247501
How? I can't remember anything being too much to comprehend in Souls.

>>383249586
I understand there has to be some sort of punishment and suspense to make losses actually mean something, and I really like that there's no game over so that losing your level 6 guys won't mean you will never be able to win the game and just spiral into a slow defeat like in XCOM, but with no guarantee that high level heores will come even if a fully upgraded stagecoach, or even the hero classes you lost that you need back, coupled with high level characters refusing to go into lower level dungeons does seem like biting back at the player a little too hard.

I understand not wanting the player to bring in a full party of level 6 dudes to completely demolish a boss, but I doubt those dudes that almost saw death and madness wouldn't relish the chance of doing a less hard dungeon for a while so they don't get pushed over the edge. Perhaps a boss only level restriction would alleviate this.

>>383247501
Elaborate. Dark Souls seems to be inspired much more by generic western fantasy, I don't recall any Lovecraftian themes in it at all. Bloodborne on the other hand was blatantly inspired by Lovecraft. You could argue that DS3 has a few in it but that's only because it seemed like some Bloodborne bled into it during development.

There any way to get Darkest Dungeon running on a toaster? Shit won't even open for me.

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>Stumbling Scratch
>Clumsy Axeblade
>Stumbling Scratch
>Clumsy Axeblade

>>383249586
I just yesterday entered a lvl 5 dungeon with full lvl 6 squad and my occultist (4 wep, 4 armor) got critted to death before it was my turn. It was the first fight of the dungeon and my party got surprised on 75+ light. Now fucking tell me how this game isnt just random.org?

>>383246898
Radiant mode just reduces the grind, doesn't change enemy stats or abilities at all.

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>>383250361
Shoulda invested more into dodge and speed trinkets, they're fucking OP as hell.

>>383250475
All my chars are like 25something dodge because of their armors. Speed has nothing to do with Surprise.

>>383250361
>he didn't mod enemy crits out
Oh you

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>>383246418
>Darkest Dungeon
>RPG

Stop this shit. The tag on steam is enough already to get me mad.

>>383250361
tell me how random is bad

>>383250746
If you're gonna mod crits out, you need to buff enemy damage x1.5 or something like that

>>383250098
I really find this annoying. The game would have run just as well with Final-Fantasy-6-tier graphics--but NO, the developers had to add all this totally-unnecessary fancy animation and fucking LIGHTING EFFECTS in a 2D GAME!

Also, fuck that meme narrator. I got tired of his repetitive lines while I was still watching YouTube videos, and took enormous pleasure in disabling him as soon as I bought the game. How much money would the developers have saved if they hadn't included him?

>>383250747
Yeah it should be SRPG

>>383250759
It makes the game play you. I dont know about you but I liked playing games. Playing this game feels so often like I am not even playing it.

>>383250746
What next? Double trinket and backpack slots? Remove stress?

>>383250841
I want to disable you

>>383250824
Nah i just find them tedious, getting "on the old road, we found redemption" achievement and don't want to deal with any lul your hero was killed in one turn before you could do anything :^)

>>383246997
/po/

>>383250841
Get a PC from this century and try again.

>>383250893

>implying Darkest Dungeon isn't a waifu simulator

What are some good team compositions?
Just started playing after I bought the game from the summer sale and I haven't recruited all the heroes yet, but I've mostly been using these:
1st position: Man-at-Arms/Leper
2nd position: Crusader/Bounty Hunter
3rd position: Jester/Plague Doctor
4th position: Occultist/Vestal
depending on who's available, but my main team are the first choice.

Been doing good so far (only my vestal died because she got rushed by a 4 spider surprise attack), managed to kill the first boss in the ruins, and I'm slowly grinding to at least upgrade my equipment and abilities to level 2 before challenging the next boss.

>>383251014
>want to get an achievement without really getting it

This is what happens when children get used to participation awards.

>>383251091
I have a computer good enough to run it. I only noticed the pathetic performance when my main computer's processor died and I tried to play the game on my mother's ancient laptop.

>>383251142
Its better if you dont ask because once you got stuff figured out the game has nothing to give you since the gameplay is 1/10.

>>383251194
I plan on a ton of easy mode mods to 100% the game too

>>383250747
But Darkest Dungeon is a rollplaying game.

>>383251142
The one true party comp is Occultist - Jester - Abomination - Abomination

>>383251284
Do you also skip to the end of movies and but still tell others you saw them?

Any other good/mandatory mods for the game?
So far I've only been using the increase stacking size of the loot you find in the dungeons because I feel the vanilla one is just designed to unnecessarily prolong the grind by forcing you to drop the excess upgrading materials once your inventory is full.

>>383251683
If you're using cheatmods, you might wanna grab the one that removes level cap from missions and the ones that remove bullshit from Crimson Court if you have it.

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>first time doing the pig boss
>kill the little pig
>get destroyed in the next 2 rounds
>2 party members still alive
>they get hit 10 times on death's door but won't die
>close to killing the big pig
>"is this fight scripted like this?"
>finally he kills them
>"guess not "

>>383251683
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=903788427

IMO this http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840391233

>>383251789
Mod that removes retarded crimson curse yet? or the annoying town event?

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>people say the antiquarian is useless in combat
>stack the dodge buff
>go through the entire dungeon without getting touched
Loving every laugh.

>>383251683

If you downloaded the DLC, the ones that tweak the Crimson Curse and chances of it infecting your guys are pretty much a given.

What is the Dark Souls of the souls series

>>383252071

Antiquarian has surprisingly good synergy with the Man at Arms.

A SINGULAR STRIKE!

>>383251864
>he killed wilbur first
I'm sorry for your loss.

>>383252071
Don't forget raising the dodge and protection even further for your frontman.

>>383251864

>"is this fight scripted like this?"

Remind yourself anon.

>>383252170
Demon souls, its a spiritual successor

>>383252174
Do separate buffs with the same effect stack? Or does the buff with the highest effect has the priority?

>>383250361
>occultis
And 0 fucks were given that day. Until you are in final dungeons where even retreat is penalized, it is all easy.

>>383252269
If overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer, then why does the ancestor talk shit during his fight?

>>383252535
Because he forgot to remind himself that

>>383252603
IT'S TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME

>>383252603
Then I. will. show him. (Again)

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>>383251864
>tfw my hero's reposte killed the little pig

>>383253121
>Using duelist advance or rampart in that fight at all
For what purpose?

>>383246707
>it's a game with Lovecraft shit like a lot of games have now a days.
Name 10 that came out this year.

>>383253345
Bloodborne
Darkest Dungeon
Jackie Chan

>>383251864
>>383253121
I just look up the boss fight mechanics, alongside with curio effects and enemy resistances beforehand. The game has enough bullshit without gimping yourself by going in blind.

>>383251142
From back to front
Arbalist>Occultist>Houndmaster>Man at arms
Is the best comp in the game.

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I tried to make abomination work. I really did. He is worse than lepper in every way.

I will just keep one (same with jester) and level them up to lvl6 so nobody can accuse me of being racist.

I deal with everything by killing it fast and jester is a joke and abo is absolutely stressful.

>maybe if my heal slut wasnt afraid of BAC
But who can blame her? Who would want to do anything with pic related?

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>>383251142

>>383253642
Abom destroyes everything in the cove in human form. You really need some stress management to make his beast form work though.

>>383253672
>wiki tries to say this is an indiana jones reference
REEE

>>383253345
How about instead you just go to steam and type in Lovecraft. Do your own work.

Is the first mission in the darkest dungeon supposed to be so easy? I just went in and did it with lvl0 party because I wanted achi for entering.

>>383254181
Just did, none came out this year, so good job lying you fucking faggot.

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>>383254309
Green dungeons are piss easy when you have decent party. And since your 1st party is scripted, it is always easy.
>from lvl3 heroes you can enter orange levels and there are horror things which can smack your shit hard

>>383253763
In human form he hits weaker than jew girls knife. I guess i am biased, but he is really underwhelming. Maybe he will be better at later stages of game.

>>383254963
I was talking about the last dungeon called darkest dungeon. I got out with only single guy alive but it seemed way too easy.

>>383246418
Dark Souls is an RPG, so no.

>>383254963
He's for stacking blight. It eats those armored crabs alive. And for CC with the stun. And if you feel you're lacking some direct damage he still can transform and perform as a melee frontliner from position 2. I guess does not compare to Leper in terms of sheer raw damage after all, but then if he did, Leper would be useless, since he has zero utility.

>>383254491
Guess I have to hold your hand. Type in Conaruim. Have a sad cry cause you was wrong.

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The Graverobber does literally everything she does except better, what the fuck is the point of this class.

>>383255189
Diversity

>>383255189
the flare for the pig boss

>>383246418
The Wizardry series is the """""""""""dark souls of rpgs"""""""""""

>>383255189
>what is rallying flare

>>383255176
OH SHIT ONE GAME, OH MY GOD ONE GAME IS NOW
"a lot of games have now a days." HOLY SHEEET

>>383255176
>you was wrong

>gets up from chair nervously
CONFIDENCE SURGES AS THE ENEMY CRUMBLES

>>383255189
Medical Greaves + Battlefield bandage is great, and the heal buff after is awesome.

I like Arbalest; can mark targets, obv good for taking out backline, can pull off some decent heals, suppressing fire is a nice 3 person acc debuff, CAN CLEAR MARK, and blindfire can get her to sanic speeds.

>>383255189
I like grave robber but I feel like she's a pain to work around unless you make a team that's set up to deal with all the movement. Arbalest you can just throw in a team and she'll work out decently.

>>383255189
bet you wouldn't mind that if she was white

>>383255189
>boosting amount healed
>mark synergy
>good camping skills
>only position 4 offensive character
Don't even need a support character, just run all marks and damage.

>>383255457
is you dum?

Anyone have any classmod recommendations? I already got all of ActionJack's stuff, although I still haven't quite figured out the purpose of Martyr, Vamp or Commissar

>>383255064
Oh. You killed shuffler with 4 lvl0 heroes? Find hard to believe that.

>>383255175
Leper hits like a truck and i would expect abo hit even harder when in beast form simply because it is not human anymore. That way it would be trade off with all the restrictions and stress generation.

Dammit.

>>383251284
:( sorry..

>>383255861
Which is why I'm asking because I thought it wasn't supposed to be possible. Although I admit I got incredibly lucky with BH/Occultist crits and I sat through multiple deathdoors. Guess it was just rng jesus pissing my way.

>>383255376
>Gloom
>Kult of Ktulu: Olympic
I can keep naming them, even though if you follow my first directions this would all be known, but I think you'll just hold your ground and continue to be autistic.

Real shit is the DLC as ass as the Steam reviews make it out to be?

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>visit The Courtyard for the first time with a bunch of lvl 0/1 heroes
>doing pretty well and gather quite a lot of The Blood
>suddenly
>Crocodilian
>mfw

>>383256350
The blood system is annoying and it's unfun and hard as fuck to proggress in the courtyard epic missions, but it adds very good character and districts.

>>383248738
>not dark run warrens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyPdjvRQbY8

Only town in chaos even comes close

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>>383256441
>go fight croco with level 2 heroes
>still almost get fucked over

That fucker does way too much damage

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>>383246418
I just realized something, turns are COMPLETELY random, I know i smelled something bad on this game but I didn't knew exactly what.

>none of me characters had a spd debuff
>none of them were stunned
>they hadn't been surprised
>entire enemy team takes TWO FUCKING CONSECUTIVE TURNS
>they all target the same character

What the fuck is wrong with these developers?

Do enemies get higher than 100% accuracy on veteran/champion quests? Or does the heroes' dodge represent the actual evade chance? Because I can potentially stack it up to 60 and above.

It's a dungeon crawler, not an RPG

>>383256926
>entire enemy team takes TWO FUCKING CONSECUTIVE TURNS
Only happens if they're surprised and all go before your characters the next turn. And if they're surprised, you only have yourself to blame for not wiping them out first.
Also
>its only fair if only I get to focus down an enemy but the enemies can't do the same!
git gud

>>383256926
>During each turn, each unit is assigned a random number ranging from 1 to 8, to which its SPD value is added; the order that the participants to the battle will follow to take their actions will be determined by these values, with the highest acting first.

You're welcome

>>383256992
Each enemy's base accuracy and scaling is different, I'd imagine some get above 100%. Most don't though to my knowledge

>GREAT IS THE NIGGER THAT STEALS ON IT'S OWN

Wtf Raimi?

>>383256926
Character turn order is determined by SPD+1d8.
So for what you said to happen, you'd have to have roughly similar speed to your opponents. Round One they lowrolled and all went last in the initiative, you didn't kill any of them in Round One, then Round Two they highrolled their speed check, all went first in the second round, and creamed your guy.

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>>383246707

>>383256926
>entire enemy team takes TWO FUCKING CONSECUTIVE TURNS
This often happens when you surprise the enemies. Surprised enemies act last on the first turn, and on the next one they're back to their default speed.

>>383256926
They're done with speed +2d6 IIRC.

In practice this means basically complete RNG.

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>>383257245
>wiping an entire enemy team in one round
Oh yes sure of course because that's entirely logical when their HP at easy dungeons is 10 and your character's damage need set ups or crits to reach that.

Go fuck yourself, seeing one of your characters going from full HP to zero HP without being able to do anything, and for an entirely random reason is the WORST design decision a developer can do on those types of games.

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>>383257426
>the Dark Souls of action RPGs
>not Dark Souls

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>tfw ocultist heals crusader
>it crits
>crusader withstands the bleed

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>Vestal
>Deviant Tastes

>>383248398
Because the old RPGs had a more lenient success average and mechanics to help prevent completely getting fucked over just because you had one or two bad turns.

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>>383257426
>Dragon's Dogma is the Dark Souls of fantasy RPGs
Then what is Dark Souls Dark Souls of?

>>383253546

You can also replace the MaA with a Hellion for certain bosses that you just want to nuke down, such as hag with marked iron swan.

>>383257645
Here's a better question. How can it be the Dark Souls of fantasy RPGs when it has functional AI, good combat, and an actual fucking story? Isn't that the opposite of Dark Souls?

>hellion debuffs herself with every attack
But why? I could be just using a leper instead.

>>383250097
>what is the abyss

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>>383257556
That exact feel is all that kept me going through my first champion boss run

Best team/tips for champion weald?

Other places are fine, but those fucking Giants/dodge witch combos and doggos/ghouls are really annoying.
Also those spore shooters that stack blight that they add to the fight as well sometimes.

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>>383257426
>SMT IV - The Dark Souls of Persona games
AHAHAHAHAHAH HOW WILL SMT FAGS EVER RECOVER???

>>383257816
Don't bother, the game has more holes in terms of logical design decisions than a Venezuela has holes in it's bank.

>now here is a character with a 1 point heal ability.

>>383257816
She can hit the back line.
Also has double stun.
Also bleed which is good for prot enemies.

>>383257816
She overexerts herself to do her stronger attacks
>I could be just using a leper instead.
Better hope he doesn't get shuffled ever

>>383258092
>Better hope he doesn't get shuffled ever
The exact same thing applies to her. She even gets debuffs for not being in position 1.

Favorite class?

Bounty hunter here.
Extremely strong attack if enemy is marked. Combine that with +25% damage against size 2 enemies and trinkets and bosses just melt.
Can hook the back line to help you melees or stun them and shuffle them around.
Only downside is that he has no heal/stress reduction and is pretty weak against move/stun resist comps or range-heavy comps.

>>383257994
>hit the back line
so can several other characters
>double stun
mildly useful in 90% of the fights since it's impossible to be used consecutively
>bleed
Useless against several enemies and entire 2 dungeons.

>>383257645
Dark Souls is the Dark Souls of Dark Souls

>>383258239
Occultist because of meme heals.

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>>383258239

>>383258256
>so can several other characters
Not from the front line.
Point is moot.
>mildly useful in 90% of the fights since it's impossible to be used consecutively
You expect to be double stunning the entire fight? What kind of an easy game do you expect this to be?
One turn exchange for 2 enemy turns is really powerful, even if it is every two turns.
>Useless against several enemies and entire 2 dungeons.
That's why you don't always bring the hellion. This game is about recognizing what the strengths are of regions/bosses/comps and act accordingly.

Do i need to spoonfeed you more?

>>383258427
Is that even a good skill? He's rarely in the position to get that off.

>>383258239

PD for utility
Houndmaster for doggo
Leper for MISS

>>383258239
Used to be leper for his power to just delete frontliners, but the meme arab has been growing on me
His pull, artillery, stab and heal are all so good

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>>383258504
It's the best skill friend, especially in the best teamcomp. If you want normie friendly crusader then probably defaulting him to 3rd position and having something like houndmaster/graverobber/highwayman aka. characters that are good from 2/3 so shuffle doesn't impact you negatively. Oh and also makes you laugh at enemy attempts to move you to the back as it only gives you more power.

>>383246418
>"Dark souls of ______"
Fuck off.

>>383246418
Dark souls is an rpg you fucking idiot.

>>383257930
Doggo, healslut, doctor, lepper.

Make them bleed and die.

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>>383258883

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>>383258239
Man-at-Arms.

>This line will not break!
>We hold as one and strike as one!

Knockback/stun, buffing prot to insane levels, guarding a weaker hero, ripostes, dodge and speed buffs, he's fucking great.

>>383258883
Full shuffle teams can be pretty fun, but they can't do shit against armored enemies, since I don't think any forward skills have bleed/blight.

>>383258239
plague doc
dem blights

>>383258476
>not from the front line
Front line characters usefulness surpasses simply hitting the ones in the back. Your point is moot.
>You expect to be double stunning the entire fight?
It's far more useful to be able to kill an enemy quickly than it is to try and stun him thanks to how turns work on this game.
>One turn exchange for 2 enemy turns is really powerful, even if it is every two turns.
In 4 turns an enemy that's dangerous enough to warrant being stunned can be focused and killed, not only that several classes can do this while also damaging the other enemies, stunning is simply not worth it.
>That's why you don't always bring the hellion
That's why you don't, period, enemies that are protected can still be stunned by other characters with more usefulness than "hit hard once and becomes useless for the rest of the fight".
>This game is about recognizing what the strengths are of regions/bosses/comps and act accordingly.
This game is about dealing with ONE single enemy, the RNG, how well you will do depends on the random number of items you find, the random damage you deal, the random turn order, the random characters that appear with the random skills unlocked. The single way to play this game well is to rely on things that are accurate, such as using curios with items or picking characters that don't rely on chance to hit, defend and heal.

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>>383258239
The memester. Gotta love them stress heals. Always take him with me if the dungeons monsters are prone to bleed. If they aren't then I take PD.

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>>383257556

>>383259524
>mfw occultist bleeds the leper every fucking time because he has the absolute shit bleed resist

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>>383256441
Mess wit da croco, u get da glocko

>>383257835
t. Someone who doesn't really understand Lovecraft

>>383259838
>t. a faggot

>>383259925
Not an argument

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Plague doc is best girl
Other girls are okay
OKAY

>>383259316
>Front line characters usefulness surpasses simply hitting the ones in the back. Your point is moot.
It's one of the aspects that a front liner can have. In a situation where you need to hit the back line then the Hellion is superior to other front liners.
>It's far more useful to be able to kill an enemy quickly than it is to try and stun him thanks to how turns work on this game.
Have you ever even gotten past a veteran dungeon?
Reducing two enemies from acting(adding stress/hitting you) is very powerful.
Killing one enemy quickly means that three enemies now hit you in turn one.
If you stun two you reduce that to two enemies acting, usually being able to pick off one ranged by your back liners so usually only one enemy will be able to act in turn one.
If you simply go for damage without looking at CC or other means of damage reduction you will die.
>In 4 turns an enemy that's dangerous enough to warrant being stunned can be focused and killed, not only that several classes can do this while also damaging the other enemies, stunning is simply not worth it.
What does this even mean?
In 4 turns that enemy will have decimated your party.
>That's why you don't, period, enemies that are protected can still be stunned by other characters with more usefulness than "hit hard once and becomes useless for the rest of the fight".
Other front liners can't kill that stress caster or ranged damage dealer that the Hellion can.
They also can't double stun.
>This game is about dealing with ONE single enemy,
No, it's not. The game is about dealing with one enemy while making sure their party doesn't do whatever they want.
If you only focus on damage you simply get killed/outstressed. It's about maximizing damage, bringing the right comp to be able to hit the stronger enemies in a region and preventing the enemy from acting or using their best abilities.

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>>383259992
Hellion honestly looks the cutest, that's why I have one every party.
I'm a musclefag

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Why does everyone bully crusader? Are you people not virtuous enough?

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>>383260292

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>>383259695
DEEPEST LORE

>>383260409
I use him for crawls in the wield, sometimes the warrens.
I always take him to fight the Necro and Sodden Crew but he is poor for most other boss fights.

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Since it came out, Darkest Dungeon threads have some of the best OC I've seen in years

>>383259959
Same as not "understanding" Lovecraft isn't an argument.

Lovecraft's stories tell of events, phenomenon or beings that transcend the human cognition, and each reader is free to interpret most stories' meanings freely, so there's not an objectively right way to process what you read.

And the abyss does is Lovecraftian, since no one understands it, and those who come in contact with it end up crazed, cursed, or mutated, sometimes the three at the same time.

tl;dr. You're wrong, and still a faggot

>>383260791
So one aspect of Dark Souls borrowing a hint of an idea from Lovecraft makes the game "Lovecraft af"? I think not. Bloodborne is Lovecraft as fuck, Dark Souls is not.

>>383261089
Welcome to /v/, home of hyperbole

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What should I focus on upgrading first? Is the healer you get at the start any good? She doesn't seem to heal very much, 2-4 seems pretty weak

>>383259437
How do you play Neu-Jester? I used to play Round 1 Finale -fiddle fiddle - Solo&Finale as necessary, but with the changes to Finale I wonder if stationary rank 3 bleeder is the go to strategy for him now.

>>383261393
It's enough.
Your vestal will come into her own when you get her some trinkets and level her up, she is also the only character capable of party healing which can be invaluable.
The only other proper healer you get is the occultist who has a strong single heal but it can heal for 0 and always has a bleed chance.

>>383261592
What do you mean how? You play him as you want. If you want him to be in your shuffler team, you pick his shuffle skills. If you want him to be support/bleeder you pick those.

>>383258239
Hound Master for the Guard Dog.
Literally a broken ability. Waiting for Red Hook to nerf it.
Arbalest for the crits.

>>383261393

Well, its depends. You don't use a vestal for big heals, but consistent heals. She is also very useful as a buffer and a stunner. Don't discount the power of stunning enemies, sometimes it is better than killing them.

The occultist is your other main healer. He can heal for a fuck ton of damage, 40 something if he crits, or he can heal for 0 - 2. And when he heals, he gives your character a bleed (they can resist, but its one more check you have to have). He is also a good debuffer and can do damage to all lines.

Then you have characters like Arbalest that can do emergency healing in a pinch, stop bleeding, and remove enemy marks on your party (Very Powerful, especially in boss fights) while also doing damage from nearly every position.

Some classes, like crusader and flaggelant, can also self heal, making them strong in some situations.

>>383246418
Is dark souls the dark souls of dark souls.

Game is pretty fun, the permadeath and RNG doesn't bother me too much but my biggest gripe is the insane amount of grind you need to do to fully upgrade your town to max, and the new DLC adding more buildings really doesn't help.

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The cutest

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>>383262389
>When your PD has nymphomania

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>>383262389

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>>383262673
Now post the other versions

>>383257601
>Because the old RPGs had a more lenient success average and mechanics to help prevent completely getting fucked over just because you had one or two bad turns.

That could still happen anyway, tho. Nothing prevented you from fsiling a dice roll, regardless of your skill level and influencevon the action

>>383261592
I make him bleeder on the third spot. That's why I switch him with the PD on the exact spot according to the dungeons.

>>383246418
>try my first champion dungeon in the weald with a team of fully upgraded level 5s
>get my shit pushed in and have to abandon quest after 3 fights

holy fuck. so much harder than veteran.

>>383263607

Yeah, not only do you need a good team comp, a good load out of trinkets are also necessary.

game is fucking broken, and not the game itself, but the last dungeon.

because if you complete a floor of the darkest dungeon, all the characters involved will never go back in, I cannot understate how bad a decision this is, these 4 characters are now useless.

you need 3 whole parties at max level to beat the game, but due to the nature of the game, you'll go through about 12 full parties before success, were talking many man many hours of busy work to win.

the rest of the game is fine, the endgame is a retarded nightmare.

>>383263782
Characters that survive a Darkest Dungeon quest don't take up a space in the roster, and you can still use them on normal quests. Moreover, they will gran bonus XP to other characters in their group.

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>>383258334

>mfw getting my first 40 crit heal on the occultist

Uninstalled the game after I realized how retarded the inventory management system is.

Literally have to throw away 90% of the loot you find in a long dungeon cause there is never any room.

>>383258883
You realise it can only hit the back ranks?

>>383262502
>using the correct version of that image

mah negro.

>>38326378
I think you can disable the "hero won't come back to the dd" thing in the options.

You are a bitch if you do so tho

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Which is the worst designed boss fight and why is it the hag?

All she is is a new player trap that's a complete pushover on every subsequent time you face her. Literally the only 'difficult' element to her is that on your very first time you may blunder in there with characters that can't hit her and get stuck.

At least the Necro can mix things up on veteran/champ level by summoning a skele general. The Hag just goes down to about 2-3 rounds of attacks.

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Is this the Dark Souls of Star Wars games /v/?

>>383257943
this pisses me off because IV was fucking broken and easy as hell

>>383246418
It's more like dark souls 2

>>383265127
Except Naraku RNG bullshit. And the game journos couldn't get past that part.

>>383264901
Don't really like the Cannon as it's more tedious than challenging.
Also, is there anything that tells you not to attack Wilbur? If not I'd say that's a pretty bad trap for new people aswell.

>>383258427
>miss
Every fucking time. Fuck the crusader.

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tfw

>>383265439
The fact that the boss instantly retaliates with a nasty move when you do is supposed to clue you in, but understandably some players may think they have to time attacking wilbur strategically between heals.

Is there a way to get trinkets from dead heroes?

I do I just wait for the Shrieker to appear so I can destroy the nest?

>>383265546
Well the problem with that is, that Wilbur is pretty easy to oneshot, so if you do you seem to just get fucked for a mistake that you had no indication for.

>>383265439
>Also, is there anything that tells you not to attack Wilbur?
Your own fucking heroes.

>>383264459
Long dungeons should allow you more item slots or the ability to make bigger stacks of stuff, or a way to send some back early. Other than sometimes strong trinkets, long missions don't even give good quest rewards for the amount of time and resources they cost.

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>>383265546
>>383265729

Your heroes have barks that help clue you in, but only after you kill Wilbur. Stuff like "We shouldn't have killed the little pig!" or something like that.

I know this because I killed him first the first time I did that boss. Once the smackdown started I managed to retreat with no losses, but damn that was scary.

>>383266483
That just gave me and idea: they could give the Houndmaster a camping ability to send the doggo back to town with some loot. Or maybe one for the Grave Robber like "Sort Your Loot" that allows you to stack a few things into one inventory slot, but locks it so you couldn't add more later. That would make long dungeons a lot more viable to run.

>>383264901
Pirate crew
>move his faggot summon to the back
>get easy kill
Otherwise its just an endurance match.

>>383266493
>only after you kill Wilbur
Wrong. Assuming you don't one shot him the first turn your heroes will mention that hurting him makes the king mad. Unless you're really really lucky with the damage rolls and crits or had grinded way past apprentice level, killing Wilbur on your first playthrough sounds impossible.

>>383255189
Except for the fact that gay robber does no damage next to Arbalest's 100% dmg and 10% crit on market targers. She is also extremely good on bosses with her buffs and can ease healing.

>>383266483
desu not using inventory mods just makes the mid/lategame an absurd chore

>>383266493
Me too.
And recently
>play radiant
>take veteran heroes to the Swine Prince.
>think "damn, my Arbalest is kinda slow"
>Blindfire once, to guarantee the Flare to work
>what could go wrong
>crits Wilbur for 35
Still managed to beat him, just because it was Radiant and my heroes were higher leveled, but it was intense.

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Does anyone have the original version of this?

>>383266979
Pretty sure they patched the crew summon so it can't be shuffled anymore.

I always beat them on vet and champ by using a MAA in 1st who does nothing but spam bolster to give everyone a dodge buff. Have trinkets on everyone to raise their move resist and so long as the anchor misses you're good to go.

>>383267191
Nah, Crew itself can still be moved. Its the minion spawn that can't for whatever reason.

Crimson Court makes this scam even easier. Just get a BH with his unique +50% move chance trinket and pull the boss over. ezpz.

>>383258239
Occultist, but I wish his damage was buffed a bit since it's same as vestals or weaker on non eldrich enemies. But he is not good in Crimson Court due to no hp, no stun and CC enemies don't give a shit about pulls. I actually starting to think that outside of Weald he is weaker than Vestal.

>>383267374
Nah, in the Cove and the Darkest Dungeon itself he's a beast aswell.

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>>383251864
>alpha'd Wilbur with Iron Swan and Blight after I saw him marking targets and figured that knocking him out would gimp the Prince
>mfw

Managed to get everyone out alive with secret room loot, so worth it I guess.

Does anyone ever take plague doctor to the weald/warrens?

I know she's supposed to be the plague backliner and the houndmaster is supposed to be the bleed combatant so naturally they're in opposed runnings, but the HM can generally be useful anywhere while the PD just feels really pigeonholed.

I blame the fact that she has 3 mandatory skills in the 2 plague abilities and the backrowstun.

>>383267191
He's pretty bullshit for first time players or those that don't know his gimmick beforehand.
First thing a decent first-time player would think is that his summon just immobilizes the first position. Then they realize that the boss heals every turn as long as someone is anchored. Then it would be that their party position will always get fucked if they don't dodge the anchor. And then they see that the summon not only has 50% prot once he's summoned, he also gets fully healed after anchoring someone and transfers that prot bonus to the boss.
You can always run and prepare better for next time, though.

>>383265517
i honestly expected the crimson curse to end with killing the last dlc boss

this was a nice suprise

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>get to baron
>my vestal dies in the middle of the fight
>jester , highwayman and flagellant are all afflicted
and have crimson curse
>everyone's close to heartattack
>baron crit heals
>flagellant on deaths door
>i keep buffing team with jester
>highwayman dodging shit
>flaggelant refuses to die
>mfw kill baron and go home

fucking flagellant with martyr's seal is broken as fuck