So, this is supposed to be an improvement?

Oh, have we already decided to hate this game?

It's probably what the original sprites would look like if they had bigger resolution and color limits in 1998

>>383186685
what a weird thing to say

>>383186546
I legit don't understand what your complaint could be, could you give me a quick whine down.

>>383186685
Maybe the BC and the carrier, but the marine and hydralisk look totally different.

>>383186845
Old looked like a C&C ripoff, the new looks like if Pixar made a C&C ripoff. Too "shiny plastic" instead of "used future".

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>>383187947
sc/bw was dreamt up from warhammer 40k and space hulk/ lots of sci fi

>>383189102
You can't really copy GW games, since they copied everything.

Anyways, look these goddamn new models, these textures are awful, they look like shinny plastic models.

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Is this supposed to be an improvement?

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>>383189360
I had the action figures in 1999, they look right to me. The art was always shitty cheese, even in the old school manuals.

It's another /v/ bitches and moans contrarian thread

are you morons ever happy? it looks great.

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JUST

>>383189482
Shit dude, these figures look horrible. I'll buy the hydralisk tho.

shhh anon you are supposed to accept everything that blizzard gives you,their games are popular that means they are perfect

armor on the marine is a little bad, but i don't see the problem here op. You're just spewing shit aimlessly.

>>383186546
Old pylon looks more uniform and clear cut, the new one's too uneven looking -- it triggers me.

>>383189960
Bit theres literally nothing wrong with the HD versions.

>>383186546
Looks like Dawn of War III

>>383187947

There is absolutely nothing "used future" about the original sprites, besides the fact that they were low res shit that you had to use your imagination for.

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blizzard abandoned us

looks good for sc

>hurr I like these shitty old pixels better aren't I hardcore

sasuga /v/

>>383186546
they literally made it HD
that's what they promised

>>383190458
nigger who cares if they didnt intend to make it look used

it still looked like it and now it doesnt

reminder that Blizzard has cancelled a korean tournament without giving a clear reason

from the second they announced this remaster I was worried that they were going to try and ruin the pro scene of the best and only good e-sport around and now, before it has even launched, it has already started happening. I hate Blizzard

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>>383186546
I honestly don't understand OP, I spent a minute there looking closely and frankly it looks fine. Looks like they mildly changed the "perspective" on the marine and maybe hydralisk but nothing, they didn't bling the shit out of the power armor even it still looks plain and sturdy.

I have a few criticisms about the Remaster, and if I wanted to be super autistic about GRAFIX I'd have liked it if they made at least an option for a different sprite set for every terrain map (which wouldn't actually be much). In HD I think the plain ones stand out much more as unchanging, a tiny bit of minor extra detail there would have added a lot for minimal work IMO, and given all the engine rework they had to do anyway it would have been trivial to do a sprite -> switch($tileset) {} there.

Overall though of all the things you could bitch about I'm really not seeing the problem with this one. Come the fuck on.

There is a hotkey to revert to the old graphics midgame.

>>383190556

but i liked them better because they had a weight to them...

the new ones are floaty as fuck, like everything is suspended a foot above the ground.

the ugly, hyper-textured, smooth metal-like substance that every unit in the game appears to be made out of will eventually be accepted as an aesthetic I'm sure.

>>383186546
you fucking idiot.

I swear if they change a dam thing to the gameplay I'm going to be made.
Especially the 20 unit selection cap.

>>383191213
Yeah, if they let me select more than 20 units at a time I'm going to be mad as hell

>>383187947
what's wrong with the new marine? The old one always looked like it was holding a giant matchstick

>>383191213
You mean 12 unit selection cap?

>>383191110
What the fuck are you even saying? how fuck is your mind that you can only communicate in buzzwords?

>>383191213
Anon you can go play and find out right now (answer is no nothing is changed in that respect). The basic remaster is already out, it's the one that's now free. That has all the work they had to do just to upgrade the core internals so it could wrong on modern computers.

The HD 4K part is basic a graphics mod you can add on, to the point of LITERALLY using a hot key to swap back and forth between old and new graphics mid-game in real time. Someone running the free one and the HD one can play together with zero fucks because it's the same engine. If you want fancier sprites you pay them the $15 or $25 or whatever it is, otherwise whatever.

>>383191518
>what's wrong with the new marine?
I literally said in that post, Anon. The textures are horrible, they look like shiny plastic. Could be good if the marine looked like some dirty armor and the hydralisk biological.

They pop out too hard from the background, looks cheap and amateurish.

>>383191110
>EBIN MEMES
Just stop.

>>383189779

>tfw I got a used on off eBay for 4 dollars

Loose, but whatever, I wanted that shit so bad when I saw my friend had one back in elementary years back. Even as a kid I didn't want the shitty Marine, though.

>>383186546
The ground still looks like garbage, I hope that's a work in progress.

>>383190735

But it didn't. At all. It was literally just low res with the color capacity of an old Nokia cell phone.

>>383191768
The original was just that though, it was a very simple look as a 1990s game. This isn't supposed to be fucking Starcraft 3 or even 2, it's a sharper version of the original sprites and that's it. In fact one of the best parts is that they resisted what normally would be the natural enemy of this sort of effort: complexifying the shit out of everything and inventing tons of new details. That's how "UPDATE THE LOOK FOR NEW TECHNOMOROGY AND TODAYS KIDS" efforts usually goes and it fucking sucks, it's an RTS. Shit should be clear and identifiable in large groups at high speed.

Go play your MOBAs or whatever.

>>383190735
Is your complaint that Blizzard didn't cater to your fucking imagination?
That's some silly shit, nigga.

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>>383186546
JUST

Noob Lizard fucking sucks.

>>383192061
I agree too, it's too shiny. What now faget it's 2vs1

>>383191768
>the hydralisk biological.
Zerg were always chitinous bug things, it makes perfect sense they would have hard shiny carapaces, and not be fleshy meat sacks.

>>383192061
>hey dude, I could like it if the armor were dirty (and maybe if 1 of each 5 marines had some words painted) and didn't looked like a shinny plastic model
>hurr go play a MOBA
Great argument, retard.

>>383189401
That one actually is an improvement.

>>383190861
>tileset blending
>>383191816
>pop out too hard from the background
I think this is the main fair criticism of the look. The new sprites are totally faithful to the original, they did a good job. There was zero purposeful blending in the old one. But like old console games on CRTs or whatever, the nature of the very low res and pixelation made the old ones naturally blend better. In HD it definitely pops way more. They should have made a sprite for each tileset with a bit of detail blend. Fuck I dunno, maybe if a filter on them would be enough?

Still though I bet when actually playing with tons of shit going on nobody will give a fuck. Still screenshots aren't that meaningful, you basically never have time to examine the tiny details when playing.

I wish blizzard would just go back to ignoring brood war like they did from 2001-2011

>>383192391
I don't agree. I think it looks fine.

Now what?

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>>383192512

>>383186546
The new shit looks like the cutscenes and art from the original manual, I don't see the problem.

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>>383192404
Just look at this smiling fucker, half os his body is muscle, of some sort of reptilian scales. He's definitively not shinny nor fully covered in chitin.

>>383192673
It doesn't, blindbro.

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>>383192391
>>What now faget it's 2vs1
>he never beat anyone in mp 2v1
fucking casual scrub opinion discarded

>>383192408
>hurrdurr I want something other then hd starcraft 1 which I clearly don't play
>let me bitch about hd starcraft 1

>>383187947
Except the marine fits with what you saw in the FMV.

>>383192756
That's not the art from the original manual is it or a cutscene.

>>383192841
>>hurrdurr I want something other then hd starcraft 1 which I clearly don't play
Quote the exact post in which I said that, I dare you double nigger.

>>383186656

This is /v/. Games are hated until proven otherwise, and even then, if you like any game you're just a contrarian memelord.

>>383192949
this one you just said it in your post now lmao fucking scrub

>>383186546

>Clear and obvious graphical improvement.
>/v/ still bitches about it.

>>383193000
Sometimes it's ok to like a game if the total number of people who have ever played it on the planet is like 2-4 digits. Starcraft obviously is facing a bit of headwind on this board there.

>>383186546
The new version looks like a mobile game.

> tfw it costs 10 bucks in Mexico
I find it hard to justify not buying this shit, even if I'll only play the campaign

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>>383192897
see >>383190545
Idiot.

>>383192923
The pic wasn't for you, I assumed you actually saw the manual once in your life. Here, a pic from the manual, you fucking idiot.

>>383193183
Outplayed. Guess I'm an idiot too.

>>383193429
no it doesn't at all it isn't black and white. or were you thinking gamegear exclusive?

>>383193523
don't support blizzard

>>383193537
What about this looks different than the new sprite or how it was described in the manual?

>>383193687
Now I'm really curious. Do you use some sort of text to speech? Why a blind man would use an imageboard anyways?

>>383193804
Use your words, I clearly lack your superlative eye for detail. I liked that the new model doesn't look like it's spitting acid when the manual clearly says it fires spines.

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Some spirites look better, than the originals, some look worse, most just look like the original sprites scaled up.

I don't expect them to get everything perfect, and considering they were re-modeling, and retexturing every art asset from 640x480, I'm more than happy with how this remaster turned out considering the shocking state of some recent ones. (Compare this to FFX or Silent Hill).

Considering this is only $15 I'll probably buy it, but I'm buying it mostly just to have fresh newbies to play BW against for a few months. The graphics of the game really are a non-issue for me.

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>>383193537
Something to consider anon beyond the stuff is discussing about the defaults it'll ship with: one of my most key questions that we can't know until it comes out is more on the tech side, ie., exactly what formats they're using this time around as part of their modernization. Because if they've gone with standard ones then it'd be super easy for people to just mod the look, at least for SP. I kind of hope the engine has some built in way to change stuff around per map but even without a built-in way someone could probably figure out an equivalent hack. Game is so old overall maybe they'll be pretty chill with people fucking with it, at least outside of official ladder (SP/LAN).

In that case the HD ones we see here should be more thought of as a blank slate for the community to get started with, I'd be ok with that, hell the super plainness would even be a plus. A bit of subtle highlights for someworlds, a bit of extra grit, even with all units the same like the original it'd still be rad.

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Looks good to me, clean the shit out of your eyes OP

Worst is the music tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4oXOpWiFEg Actually remastered music from the 1st game, when they did added the Brood War music to SC2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiqGTojmd2s The new remade music

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea.

>>383186546
So how badly did they rape the cutscenes, and the mission briefings? As I recall, they were gonna """""""""revise"""""""""""" that shit to make it comply with the aids that was starcraft 2

I honestly think the original version's graphics are completely fine. The new graphics also look OK.

When's the next ASL?

>>383186546
Can we still play our old sc/bw on battle.net without having to use the remake version?

>>383194878
we'd have another ongoing team tournament right now but Blizzard didn't allow it
the next ASL is probably right after the launch of remaster to promote the game

>>383186546
I wonder how much they will fuck up warcraft

>>383194378

>then it'd be super easy for people to just mod the look

You know they're going to have graphical microtransactions in it when the preorder bonus is a different look for CC/Nexus/Hive and SC2 has a bunch of shit like that

>>383194745
Yes, I'm totally fine with the graphics but the music "remaster" fucking sucks and unlike the sprites didn't even need to be touched at all. If they could find the originals and just reencode in a less lossy format fine, but that should have been the absolute max. Music was not limited by technology on the PC at that point in time, and the new shit really does fuck up the feel.

That said I bet it'll be super easy to swap around audio to whatever, they'll probably just use ogg or mp3 or aac or something.

>>383194850
Cutscene rape would both somewhat more bother me, but also not. Because on the one hand it'd be unfixable, but on the other hand it's not like any of us need to ever look at the cutscenes ever again. Good ones would be a neat bonus, once, but aren't what we'd be staring at/listening to all the time we play.

>>383194850
>So how badly did they rape the cutscenes, and the mission briefings?
Someone said they were changing the briefings into comic panes. I hope he were trolling tho.

>>383195423
No I'm pretty sure they'll lock the music down in their proprietary MPQ format or whatever it was they replaced that with. They really want people to listen to this crap with worse synth horns than 1997.

>>383186546
yes it is

>>383195309
They're supporting the same old offline SP and LAN play though. So I can't see any way they can actually prevent people from messing it, they could be assholes and make it take a few extra weeks/months of messing with it if they wanted but that seems like it'd be against a lot of the spirit of the whole thing in the first place, even with the HD this is still a nostalgia release for oldfags and the hardcore more then people whose first SC was SC2 (jesus christ how horrible).

I mean yeah, maybe they'll offer their own official graphics stuff as DLC, because a lot of people will just plunk down for it even with zero DRM if it's cheap enough. And they could enforce "no mods" on BNet ladder more easily, by definition you got to be connected to their servers all the time for that, so they've got that hook. But I'm mildly hopeful they'll be lazy and not bother anywhere else since it'd just be a losing battle and give them bad pr for no reason, plus cost extra vs being cheapasses.

Reminder that this remaster is just a mod of the original game. It requires the old starcraft to run. You are paying extra for just a hd mod.

>>383195981
But the original game is free, idiot.

>>383196107
Thats the point you subhuman retard.

>>383196262
>Artists and programmers shouldn't be paid for their work.

>>383196445
>is a retard
>throws up a retarded strawman to try and save face.
No one has to buy it you inbred cocksucking moron.

>>383195981
>Reminder
But we all knew that. And it's a good thing too. What are you even doing?

>>383196262
The "mod" includes updated graphics, story visuals, music and matchmaking/ladder

Why do you think your fat ass deserves it for free poorfaggerino

>>383196604
Then don't buy it. And don't complain about games you won't buy.

>>383196642
The games free you are paying 15 usd or whatever for the same game.
>>383196737
You really are just not bright stop.

>>383196791
Its not a game you idiot blizz shill is a hd mod.

>>383196873
>BAAH WHY SHOULD YOU PAY EXTRA FOR THIS

nobody tells you to pay extra for this

>SHUT UP MORON

>>383196737

If the free version is crosscompatible with HD, why would it be excluded from the matchmaking and ladder?

Why do you need updated graphics and story visuals at all? Why new music when the original's is so iconic they give you an option to use it in SC2 as well as being featured on the Starcraft HotS maps?

>>383196982
I would love to be a blizzard shill. They must pay good.

>>383196873
But I'm ok with paying for matchmaking/ladder for my favorite game with other people who have 15 dollars or more in their bank account

>>383197065
>point keeps sailing over his stupid head
I'm ok with you paying money for a free game.

>>383197112
Nobody needs it but Blizzard is doing it because it 'll play better at tournaments and on streams.

Also the original game runs with DirectDraw which hasn't been properly supported by Windows for like 10 years.

>>383197112
So that you have to pay for it, probably. I don't give a fuck about the storytelling elements and especially not music updates I agree. I do dig the new ladder features and the graphic/widescreen update though

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>>383196873
>The games free you are paying 15 usd or whatever for the same game.
Yeah, they went to the work of reworking a fucking awesome old game so it'd run on modern systems, and they then gave all that technical work away for free. Then they asked a modest price for a completely optional full graphical rework too if you want some extra shiny. This is a bad way to do it why exactly?

>>383197112
They made matchmaking for remastered only to dissuade smurfs, since you'll have to pay 15€ for it

>>383186546
it's good and bad. I prefer the old graphics because the new ones make the game look like a web browser games. Would prefer if the just added a resolution patch.

>>383191110
good thing YOU CAN CHOOSE WHICH STYLE YOU WANT

fucking mouth breathers. grow the fuck up

>>383197380

It's not supported, but you can easily fix the wonky graphics by using a .reg file or killing explorer.exe.

Though, yeah, the free version they have in their store right now doesn't need any kind of work around to fix it.

>>383197683
For people who just want to play each other nothing is stopping anyone from just doing old style MP. Official ladder/match being gated to easy infinite smurfing by BRs and ruskies seems fine.

>>383197818
That's not actually that easy for a lot of normies probably, more to the point hacks like that are ultimately fragile. I mean, sure "easy fix now" but what about in another 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? I mean shit, here we still are playing the game and holy fuck it HAS been that long. I could see some of the really old stuff getting dumped eventually, even x86 itself might get another rework at some point. I guess there'd always be VMs or WINE or whatever but still, that's an extra layer of PITA vs just having an updated game.

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>>383186546
then just play the free version
where is the problem?

>>383198535
Source?

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>>383186546
They did what they said they'd do. Looks as accurate as a modern recreation is gonna look. It's honestly a huge improvement.

>>383198803
newfag

>>383198910
They said they were making the models look awful? I'm going to need a link.

>>383198803
I think that's Samus, she's from an FPS called "Metroid". /v/ liked it.

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>>383199089
>modern is awful
I don't see why you need a source?

>>383198910
Be quiet, libcuck.

>>383199178
>awful is modern
Dumb thinkingposter.

>>383199193
I'm a conservative.

>>383199262
Contrarian/Liberal

>literal decades later
>game is still making 100+ post threads

Is starcraft brood war one of the greatest video games of all time

>>383199425
>Is starcraft brood war one of the greatest video games of all time
Yes. People can argue all the time about "the best", but in terms of "one of the best" there is no disagreement at all, it'd make any general top 100 list let alone a top general PC or RTS list.