AUTOMATA

A and B are literally trash compared to C.

>>383169515
C, anyone telling you otherwise is braindead

I just finished the game for the first time and now I'm starting B route.

Will I play with 2B again in C and whatever comes after? If yes then I'm thinking I'll try to rush B route to the end asap and then start taking my time again in C because I really don't enjoy playing 9S.

>>383170691
Yeah you get to play as her again. Don't skip out on the sidequests though, I recommend you do Amnesia, the ones found in Pascal's village like the Shut in and Idiot Savant, and Emil's questline if you haven't done it yet.

>>383170858
Do they change at all with 9S or are there any sidequests that are 9S only? If the answer is no to both questions I really don't see why I should do them now instead of later/already done it before.

>>383169515
The one with the intro

>>383171057
The ones I listed are 9S only. After you beat Route B you won't be able to do the sidequests you missed until after you beat Route C where you unlock chapter select.

>>383169710
A and B are literally a prologue.

>>383172931
Will route C not have sidequests like the wandering couple around or something? I want to do all the quests in the game but quests that can be done with both I really, really don't wanna do as 9S. Fuck this kid.

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>>383171057
>Do they change at all with 9S
New story details and twists when they get separated near the end, some banter with 9S' operator, and some more details about the machines, like a beautiful short story about the opera singer, or like a couple of useless scenes about the previous Forest King. So, not very much. Route C is the second part of the game and the continuation of routeA/B. When people talk about route D and E they are talking about endings.

>are there any sidequests that are 9S only?
Yes, I found them very enjoyable, but I'm among the people that liked the hacking parts.

> If the answer is no to both questions I really don't see why I should do them now instead of later/already done it before.
It depends on the quests themselves, the thing is that a lot of them end with good story bits, and some of those bits work better before ending the game, while others can safely be done whenever you want (when you end it you get a chapter selection menu). But, yeah, since most of them are pretty tedious, I wouldn’t blame you for skipping some. For example I don't agree with that anon when he says to not skip Emil's one, it's pretty tedious and its story content bits are more linked to post game contents (secret high level bosses and such), it's one of the quests you can safely postpone, imo. I agree with him about the others he listed, though, and there are others, don't skip the 2 operators' quests for example, or the wandering couple.

Jackass is best route.

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>>383173456
>Will route C not have sidequests like the wandering couple around or something?
In route C there are few new quests (like one that ends with a pretty entertaining scene of jackass going into full bully mode), but you can't do all the ones that can be started during route A/B for story related reasons anymore.

>really don't wanna do as 9S. Fuck this kid
That's actually a problem, try to like him, he's actually the most important character of the game.

>>383170691
Rushing route B is the biggest mistake you can make as it contains some of the most important side quests in the game. Calm your tits and don't rush things, waifufaggot.

>>383169515

Story spoiler:

It sucks that 2B died and that the Automata storyline literally can't go anywhere.
It was a fun game.

>>383174732
Did you finish the game?

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>>383174689
>Calm your tits and don't rush things, waifufaggot.

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>>383174732

Try actually finishing the game properly.

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BTW, I suggest people that are playing the game and liking the gameplay to buy/pirate the DLC right now. It's not a big DLC and it's overpriced, but It has a part that gives remote controlling machines during the game a purpose, some contents that should be done during level 20-50 (so during the game), and other contents that should be played after post game (so after level 50), the latter is especially important since the base game has no contents specifically made for level 50-79, and, even more importantly, spoiler tag for people who want to play completely blindly A2 has few playable contents, so you can use the dlc contents to play as her, taunting and berserking as hard as you want, and to dick around with the level 4 weapons.
Yeah, it's all shit that should have been in the base game without paying any extra cent, but that's square for you, it's a niche game that was supposed to undersell, and so on.

>>383169515
Route c takes full advantage of the fact that you have done a and b as well as making them look meaningless in comparison

>>383175981
fucking japs why they have to remind me ill die alone

>>383174732
Must be an awful timeline where Ending E doesnt exist

>>383177407
Yep, as >>383173065 said A/B it's a prologue, it's meant to be the set up.

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It's hilarious how people hate 9S when he's basically meant to be the player self insert character seeking revenge for him waifu.

This is everyone hating playing as Raiden from MGS2 all over again

>>383178106
Raiden was supposed to be a player self insert character seeking revenge for his waifu?

>>383178241
It was more him trying to keep her save

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STOP MAKING THREADS BEFORE YOU'VE COMPLETED THE GAME ENTIRELY REEEEEEEE

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>>383169515
am i the only one who really enjoyed route b?

playing the game as 9s felt like the intended way and closer to the original Nier

>>383178241
No he represents the player character as the newbie who wants to be as cool as solid snake and is in a solid snake simulation aka MGS. And the whole bait and switch marketing thing of course

>>383178449

Having to hack into enemies to do any significant damage is a bit jarring, but I do enjoy one-shotting the flying spinning faggots.

>>383173065
>A & B are a prologue
>you have to go through 30 hours to get the real game and then you can enjoy 5 hours of gameplay before it ends oh and btw getting the ending of C and D takes 10 minutes
lol

Nier strongly needed to cut some shit. There's no reason this game should have been longer than 10 hours.

>>383178449
I like how it clearly highlighted 9S as the real main character. He basically carries 2B through the whole thing except for when he get captured by Adam.

>>383174404
> jackass going into full bully mode
She just wants her people to be prepared. With bombs.

>>383178639
if you take the time to learn his combat style you dont even need hacking

his attacks are oriented towards medium range precise imputs instead of the close range spamming of 2b/a2

>>383178449
I've seen quite a few people who liked B route more than A, that includes some fairly good Automata analysis like the one of superbunnyhop.

With 2B i got kinda bored of her gameplay in first few hours. 9S has so many gimmicks and cool things going on for it i was discovering new stuff even on route C, like the fact enemies subjugated by him can be detonated by self-destruct instead of him. Coupled with his role in story, it really felt the way Taro actually intended this game to be played instead of half-assed character action gameplay of girls.

Though i generally prefer mage characters in games.

Finished it today, actually (E ending). Really liked it. Understood most of the story.
As a PCfag, I never played previous games, though, and am still missing some archives (namely, 4-8 Project Gestalt ones)
That's from the first Nier, right? Whats up with that? They tried to clone humans to preserve humanity? And whats up with the twins and Black Scrawl or something? Twins went berserk and unleashed a plague?

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>>383178449
I thought it had some good moments, but I prefer 2B's combat style, and I was pretty down on how similar B was to route A, especially when I didn't think that Route C/D would be anything more than a last minute epilogue boss fight or two.

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Post yfw

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>>383178809
And even when he gets captured, it only happens because he's the one who actually wrecked Grun.
>that Eve battle
>9S manages to gain control over a part of machine network and uses the same metal fist attack against him

>>383178449
9S is the best character in the game, it's that simple.

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>>383179047
The Devola and Popola units from the first game were basically used as scapegoats for everything that went wrong with the plan to save humanity from the disease that led to the apocalypse.

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>>383179191

>>383179315
so they dindu?

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>>383179191

>>383179382
The ones we see in the game are innocent.
Another pair actually fucked up, but the plan was flawed to begin with.

>>383178106
It can't, though, maybe at the begging of route C, but after the first parts he already reached a level of madness that is hardly relatable, then he basically becomes a walking broke hate machine. I liked that a lot, though, the scene with 2B's arm and the whole final part were pure madness.

>Hips wider than shoulders

Yep this needs to be more of a thing.

>>383178449
>>383178106
His moveset and overall combat just doesn't feel right. I have nothing against 9S himself but I'd rather kill things as 2B since it's like 5x more fun.

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>>383179191
FUCK SQUARE ENIX

>>383178796
>whaaa I got too many hours for my money

>>383179568
>not A2 in Berserk with Deadly Heal and Offensive Heal +8

>>383179042
yeah i've seen that analysis. The first half is great but he lost me when he started analysing the entire story from a marxist point of view when it's made obvious that only the engels units and the surface of the factory are supposed to make refferences to that

>>383179568
It doesn't feel right if you won't adapt.
After a route B playthrough with a spear/large sword 9S i had a hard time switching back to 2B/A2 because their movesets have a painfully limited range compared to his Gae Bolg.

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>>383179382
They failed to physically stop the people driving the conflict that eventually led to humanity's extinction.

But it wasn't really because they went insane or rogue so much as it was them dealing with a lot of unexpected issues regarding the man-made replicants.

They got a raw deal in both games.

>>383179767
>hear throughout all the game that machines are evil incarnate
>mfw Forest Kingdom on Route B
I didn't ask for these feels.

>>383175981
Anyone know where I can buy a hoodie like this?

>>383179767
Actually, the entire game happens 10k years after WW2, YoRHa androids are using Ho-229 flight units and Nazi-like uniform, Resistance members are armed with StG-44, while machines are represented by a collective consciousness, Marx/Engels machines made from work equipment and their most common colour is red so i can totally see where the marxism allusion comes from.

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>>383179568
Yeah, I think 9S is great, but I'd much rather dual-wield than hack.

>>383178796
But then people would just bitch about it being too short.

>>383179846
So I wasn't the only one.

>>383180380
There's pretty much no difference between dual wield and one weapon styles aside from the lack of transition attacks, he has heavy combo too, after all.

I'd say that both gameplay styles have their quirks but i feel like 9S is way better adapted to any combat situation while 2B/A2 have some pretty annoying time with shit like drill worms. 9S can simply posses an enemy and traverse the areas peacefully too, which saves time if you don't want to fight the same encounters repeatedly.

>>383180214
i kinda got it while reading the engels records when he talks about the aliens (capitalists) having a common purpose incompatible with the machines (workers) who did all the work for no direct benefit other than existing

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>>383179191

>>383179846
the exact same thing happened to me.

when you learn how to use 9s you cant come back to spamming square

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>tfw the last choice in ending D is basically a choice between going with N2 or staying faithful to 2B

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>>383179191
>directed by yoko taro appears
pictures cannot express how good that was

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>>383181296
>a choice between going with Adam and Eve or staying faithful to 2B
Fixed that for you.

>>383179191
the whole route c intro is the best part of the game

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>>383179191

>>383181502
>9S ends up being a hateful edgelord just like Eve
pottery

>So-Shi and Boku-Shi are the personal guardians of Adam and Eve
>Ko-Shi and Ro-Shi are the personal guardians of Terminal Alpha/Beta

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>suffering rodeo

>>383181757
where did you got that?

>>383181724
He is pretty much a combo of Adam's mind and capacity for hatred and sheer desperation and grief Eve was capable of.
I honestly won't be surprised if N2 used 9S as a template while creating both of them as it was stalking him via backdoor for god knows how long already.

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>>383181724

>>383181845
This, flight unit message and final revelation about 2B/9S is when i understood that Automata has some of the best love stories in vidya.

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>>383182034

>>383182034
>>383182329
translate lad

>>383181757
I love the "ball designs related to superior beings" trope.

>>383181845
Man, that fucking part.

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>>383182662
honestly I think 2B's final message in the flight pod was way worse
especially with 9S's english voice actor

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>>383182474
I honestly just assumed that it was his hate speech verbatim.

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>>383182662
I honestly don't understand the dislike for ball bosses. They are some of the most memorable ones in the game.
>that crazy Factory battle with Possessed by Disease playing
>cool as fuck fight near the Resistance camp when 9S saves the day again
>entire fucking Tower ascend culminating on final gattai of So-Shi and Ro-Shi

>>383182034
"Thats right...Let the hatred run through you!"

Or something like that, its basically the same thing he said on his boss fight.

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>>383181845
A2 has a similar moment after reading the YoRHa stageplay summary on anemone's terminal but i don't know why they didn't put voice acting for that lines

it would've been as good if not a better moment

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Best ending

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>>383183028
>forgetting the ultimate ball boss

>>383183293
>if not a better moment
Nope.
Stageplay has a fairly good script but 9S' grief is the highest point of tragic storytelling in Automata.

>>383182905
YESSSSS!

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>>383183462

>>383183394
She definitely has a good end if you catch my drift.

>>383181845
Oh shit, forgot about that.
>>383171057 OP, if you are still here, it's better if you do Emil's quest during route A/B, it has a consequence in a latter quest and I had forgotten about that here >>383173486
Now get out asap, people stopped using spoilers tags and this thread already has almost half of the story.

>>383183469
the way she worded that made it better for me

something like "I have to finish some things here but i'll be joining you soon"

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>>383178639
sure does

>>383184231
Wow, I'm playing the game wrong

>>383184231
the pod charge slowmo is op as fuck

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>>383183028
>that crazy Factory battle with Possessed by Disease playing
Neat mid boss.
>Cool as fuck fight near the Resistance camp when 9S saves the day again
Pretty neat as part of that sort of boss rush that was the final part of route A.
>entire fucking Tower ascend culminating on final gattai of So-Shi and Ro-Shi
Those are the balls that I disliked, they would have been fine as bosses of one of the secondary towers, not as the final conventional boss of the game. A more complex boss that used the 9S/A2 switch mechanic better was absolutely needed.

>>383183293
I wish that Anenome got involved with things after her backstory was revealed.

>>383184231
>hacking ended instantly
how

>>383184586
it's edited

DEVOLA AND POPOLA DID NOTHING WRONG

>>383184518
>they would have been fine as bosses of one of the secondary towers
Nah. Taro has been pushing the "sphere is the ultimate form of machine lifeforms" gimmick since side materials for first Nier and final line of network's defence being two highly advanced ball bosses was extremely appropriate. The way characters push them higher and higher was cool as fuck, as well as their combination into a single being.

Besides, 9S actually gets a battle where he can do an ultimate hack.

>>383184795
They really didn't.

>>383185076
>Nah. Taro has been pushing the "sphere is the ultimate form of machine lifeforms"
I was talking about the gameplay mechanics in that post, as I said I like the "ball designs related to superior beings" trope.

>>383183394

>sexualizing 2B

get out of here you degenerate tripfag

>people still calling her 2B rather than her actual name

Its 2E, people.

>>383187182
By her own words, she's a failed E model.
She's just 2B, a girl who really dislikes fighting and only wants to be together with 9S.

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>>383187929
Why do they make such a perfect and tragic couple? 2 beings that have been cursed to kill eachother since before yorha. Im glad they at least broke the cycle in ending e

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>>383188639
Jesus.

>>383189484
m night shyamalan warning: its his mom

>>383181845
QUICK SOMEONE BEFORE WE 404 WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS IVE NEVER SEEN IT AND BEATEN THE GAME ARLEADY

>>383190056
Do the Emil sidequest before the third route

>>383190056
Do Emil's sidequest

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>>383189672
I can't believe that I'm saying it after all the incest doujin I've fapped to, but that would be disturbing yet still hellishly hot.

>>383190179
>>383190186
THANKS

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>>383188953
The way both of them are ready to die for each other and struggle for a vague hope to be together is some of the best love story material i can remember in games. They also accept each other as they are, 9S knows that she's made specifically to backstab him, 2B knows that he has a few screws loose and can be violent and dangerous, doesn't matter, they still want a future together.

On top of that, their love story is not just some obnoxious jrpg romance, it's hidden under multiple layers of story, with a lot of stuff being implied or hidden in small details, which makes it even better if you decide to make a second full playthrough. I usually hate love stories and how they are presented in games but this one has really touched me.

>>383190056
It's the final part of the flowers for the dead androids quest (route C), but you have to complete Emil's quest (during route A/B) to have access to that area.

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Already played it 4 times and i cant have enough

what's happening to me lads?

>>383189672
Fuck that makes it so much better

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>>383190261

If you're looking for recs, you might like Yuri and Alice in Shadow Hearts 1+2.

I only mention it because 2B/9S is the first couple in vidya SINCE Shadow Hearts to not make me annoyed it was even a thing.

>>383178796

If you avoid all the side quests you can beat the game in like 10 hours. Just don't do side quests, don't take in the world, don't learn anything about the world and then bitch and whine because you don't understand at the end of it like a fucking retard.

>>383180154
Squenix japanese store. I almost got one but it's got a huge 2B picture on the back. Would've imported one if not for that

>>383174732

I don't think they're going to continue it even if Ending E is canon. What else can they do? Humanity is extinct, the fucking bunker server is a lie, Machines have all mostly died or gone berserk, the only ones who are even remotely sane shot their consciousness to the fucking moon. It's now just a bunch of androids dicking around on Earth.

>>383182818
Whoa, I thought I 100% this shit and I never saw this part. How do you find this?

>>383191246
the flight unit is right next to the water in the ruined city during route C. If you go as A2 she'll say she shouldn't listen so go as 9S

>>383184231

>think this game doesn't have much combat depth because I just mashed my way through it and used Mirage every time things got sticky
>and then there's this shit

I will never be creative enough to do this shit. How do people figure it out?

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>2B and 9S wake up after ending E and get to live happily ever after free from the cycle
>Machines and androids eventually make peace treaty and don;t have to fight bullshit proxy wars anymore
>/ourgal/ Jackass is out there hunting down everyone behind Project Yorha

Reminder that this is all canon and one of the happiest endings to come from Taro.

>>383191197
i believe Taro said the machines got disconnected from the network and started creating different societies culminating in a machine civil war

>>383183028
I've never seen anyone dislike the Balls for anything but not having any backstory. As actual design wise their fights are all awesome. The last one is one of the coolest bosses in the game.

>>383191197
I never got why the machines in Pascal village went berserk or the children killed themselves.

>>383174947
>>383175981
>>383177718

Read up on interviews and the concert, Taro has more to say on the "ending"

>>383191548
the machines went berserk because they weren't actually disconnected from the network. I can't remember the reason but there was a post on here saying how pascal's eye colour showed they were never disconnected. And pascal says that the children and other machines killed themselves because pascal taught them what fear is and they figured ending it was a better alternative

>>383169515
>What is the best route??
Weird question.
You can only play them in succession, so I think it's weird when some people call them "routes".

>>383191481
Sorry, but canon ending is 2B wakes up but can't reboot 9s cus he's in full depression mode and she's forced to live her life alone

>>383180683

To be fair you're never forced into doing that, you can just zip by them at sanic speed or run them over with a moose.

>>383191197
To be fair you'd have thought there was no future for the world of Nier but then we got this game, I'm sure Taro could come up with something.

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>>383190793
Yeah, i've played in both SH (there's no such thing as FtNW) but honestly i found sequel to be absolutely unnecessary as it basically retconned itself, their story was complete in one game.

The only other love story from a game released in last 5 years that i felt at least some emotional response from is Ringabel/Edea from BD, or more specifically that amazing side quest at the end of Bravely Second, but of course it's incomparable to Automata and really needs a closure in next game, if it will ever happen.

>>383189672
NANI?!

>>383191548
The former is because they were infected with a logic virus. Remember, it was by N2's design that they were allowed to leave and form their society, he probably had someway to force them back into the network even when they disconnected. The latter is because they all thought they would die/go crazy so they took their own life instead, remember they share Pascal's philosophy.

>>383191691
>how pascal's eye colour showed they were never disconnected

The explanation was in the concept art his lenses are blue, in the game they glow green. Yellow eyes (network) + blue lens = green glow

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>everyone wanks over 2B and 9S
>best girl left alone
I just want to make her smile and tell her everything is going to be ok

>>383191753
lol that's the joke ending Taro wrote to trick saps.

why do Asians make their charcters look like ancient Europeans?
do they think Asians are ugly?

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>>383191930
>best girl

>>383191930
She will hang out with pod 042 before violently forcing him into android body and raping him all night.

>>383191548
the children killed themselves because they were afraid of the machines outside and couldn't control their emotions (fear)

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>>383191753
>he actually fell for fake ending

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>>383192005
>implying pod 042 wouldn't be the one domming her
>calling her a fucking retard and making fun of her for being a little slow in the head while he forced her body to orgasm over and over until she's a drooling potato

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>>383191753
>he fell for Taro's final ruse

>>383192138
>>383191958
Proof?

>>383191753
that's ending A of concert 5 anon.

you have to read all the endings before talking about the concerts

>>383192251
From Taro's twitter about concert:
>Yoko did a super happy ending for the recital, and put the story to bed.

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>>383192201

Really want to play this but haven't played the first game, is it necessary?

>>383192405
No, but you'll enjoy it much more. I would say just do it, or watch a playthrough if you absolutely can't play it.

Also, play on easy, the gameplay isn't great

>>383191784

That depends if Square Enix lets him. Remember they intentionally sabotaged this game by putting it right at the end of their fiscal year so they could go "LOOK THIS GAME SOLD LIKE 20,000 UNITS IN A WHOLE YEAR, IT'S SHIT, SORRY WE HIRED YOU, SAYONARA".

>>383192519
Not really but you'll miss a fuckload of references and context for some events.

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>>383191805

>the same series with pleasantly surprising romances like Edea/Ringabel and Agnes/Tiz shares its world with the abomination that was Yew/Magnolia

I'm still mad, all of their scenes were a blight upon what was otherwise a solid sequel.

>>383192405

You miss out on a lot of little things and people will call you a secondary faggot forever, I guess.

>>383192251
https://mintychu.dreamwidth.org/1870.html#cutid1

>>383192519
>>383192591
Alright, will try and pick it up if I can, thanks.

>>383192405
It makes some details better, but it's not necessary.

>>383191930

>make her smile
>personality is directly based on Kainé

Good fucking luck with that one, nigger.

>>383192630
Don't forget about Altair/Vega.

Yew and Magnolia became better in a second half of the game. The problem is that game pushed them way too fucking hard in the beginning, it looks straight alien for a game where all other romances were handled way better.

>>383192801
Kaine is actually capable of extreme love and care. She just can't maintain her emotions well because of her shitty life. Still, Nier/Kaine is a second best love story in Taroverse.

>>383192670
Oh cool, thanks anon

>>383193207
>Not Caim/Angelus

While NieR: Automata was great I still think that NieR had harder and more stunning plot twists. Especially that whole change in perspective on the second playthrough that utterly destroys EVERY idea and assumption you had about the game. It feels like Automata went too quickly from machines are our enemies and should be cut down whenever possible to "some machines are actually kind of cool". Like the characters constantly bark about killing all the machines but from pretty much the second area in you have no reason to really hate the machines and feel bad for them when something bad happens to them. Like the first machines you fight are bad, that's true. Then you go directly from a whole factory of evil robots trying to murder you to a city almost completely filled with ambivalent, neutral robots who just stare at the sun all day and then to a theme park full of robots that have made it their duty to constantly act out the same theme park celebrations every day despite having no visitors. It'd have been nice to see maybe some more travesties unleashed by the machines so that when you encounter Pascal and friends you don't immediately trust them.

>>383191627
What has he said that changes the fact 2B comes back?

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>>383192405
tfw i was on the same boat. if you want to be a fag like i was, just watch a story analysis of the first gayme. /v/ will call you a fag for being late to the toro party and not a real fan but whatever. its mainly terms and certain characters actions that are better explained when you know the entire story.

>>383193732
Aren't machines the ones closest to humans, though? That was the twist that really fired my feels the first time I played it. Specially on Route B. Fuck man, the songstress and Forest King parts got my eyes wet

>>383178796
it's value for money bitch

you want some short bullshit then go play a walking simulator

>>383193702
caim/angelus only really became a love story in ending A and I suppose drakengard 2 (if that even counts)
they never really progress beyond 'working together' in any of the other endings

>>383194009
machines are only close i the scene that they are trying their hardest to emulate "human" behavior. the game stated that unlike humans they will continue emulation certain behaviors even if it failed multiple times. ex make a dictatorship, it fails, do it again, and again, and again.

>>383194009
>Aren't machines the ones closest to humans, though?

The red girls are the closest ones, they are "the ghost of humanity", from a certain point of view.
Ironic, isn't it?

>Bought this game
>Never played it
I just don't feel compelled to play it when all anyone cares about is the ass.

Does the scanner make any kind of noise or warning when it catches something even if you are not with it activated or do I seriously need to travel all over the desert with L1 pressed down?

>>383194432
Yeah, I got that. I meant for those "disconnected" and was referencing their emotions/emotional behavior
>>383194464
sucks that I'm a PCfag. I finished Automata and really want to play the other games. Guess its youtube weekend for me.

>>383193732
Automata is written in such a way that instead of single big twist just dropping at you in a middle of playthrough it plays more subtle and adds a shitload of interesting or straight unnerving details about everything, changing your view multiple times throughout the game.

"Machines are not that bad" is not even a twist. A real twist is that all of them are a spawn of a shadow of humanity that became a core of their hivemind which is capable of extreme sadism just because it only develops true empathy in ending D.

And 2E twist is a fucking brick that suddenly falls on your head and forces to re-think virtually all interactions 2B and 9S had over the course of a game.

>>383194683
I'm a pc fag as well, but that explanation was in the game, it's a file written by jackass you get after completing route C.

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>>383179191
When I realised what was happening. holy shit

>>383194645

there is infinitely more talk about lore than ass

>>383194683
>>383194906
Here you go
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Machine+Research+Report

>>383194906
Yeah, I missed that. Also missed a lot of shit like Emil's sidequest.
If I start again from a "complete save" (endings A to E), will it be NG+ where I keep all my shit or start over?

any word on DLC?
I was waiting till more was added, but I haven't heard anything... so might start my 2nd playthrough soon.

>>383195032
Ignore that retarded, he's in a thread with a single ass post and tons of walls of text yet he still writes that shit.

>>383195115
>If I start again from a "complete save" (endings A to E), will it be NG+ where I keep all my shit
Yes, but also all your levels, you are going to melt every enemy.

>>383195540
That's ok. I enjoyed the combat for the first hours or so but it became boring fast
Also I grinded a shitton in the desert pit as soon as I could and grinded some more with A2

>Play through to ending E
>Start Darkest Dungeon
>Like it
>Constant urge to start new file in Nier
I thought I would want a break after the ride that was Route C but I'm still so hungry for more. I skipped a lot of side quests because I wanted to get the main story so I know there's still much to find out.

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>>383195237
I kind of doubt we'll see any big story expansions. At least not any time soon.

>>383194009

Yeah but like in NieR shades are just presented as generic enemies but they also do horrible shit. They kill some dude's dog at one point. They're like some mysterious demonic incursion. The first thing you see of shades is them relentlessly attacking Nier and Yonah in the past as he fends them off with a fucking pipe and magic book. The boss you fight in the Aerie crushed Kainé's grandma like a fucking twig and left her for dead. And it tries to use her own grandma's voice to convince her to kill herself. Essentially they are put out as reprehensible and irredemable and you feel GOOD that you're ridding the world of them.

Then when you find out that they're actually the ghosts of humanity who were part of a failed experiment to avoid a cross-dimensional disease and playthrough B reveals that almost every shade you kill was doing nothing but what you were doing, defending your loved ones and trying to remove a threat to their lives it hits really fucking hard. Grettel was only defending the small shades that befriended him after his friend was murdered by YOU. Roc wanted peace with the People of The Mask but they drove him to murder by killing the wolves and slaughter their pups and he dies asking what THEY did wrong to deserve extinction. Wendy was formed of thousands of shades who had successfully blended in with and lived with replicants, desperately trying to stop your onslaught and save their town and your autistic skeleton friend fucking NUKES THE WHOLE AREA. Beepy was only fighting to defend Kalil and you're only trying to kill them because "MUH SHADES ARE EVIL" and some autismo at the weapon shop thought Beepy killed his brother when actually it was screaming and running around like a retard in an unsound structure and totally self-inflicted. Beepy's last act in your fight with him is to desperately try and bore through the ceiling and run while you bayed for blood.

I dunno, they all just hit harder.

>>383195237
I wrote this >>383176804 about the 3C3C1D dlc, or were you asking if other dlc have been released? Nothing more than that so far and probably never, Platinum officially stopped working on it, while Taro is working on a 6th automata concert.

>>383195115

You can chapter select and just go to the bit where Emil is available again and do his quest along with any others you missed.

>>383192670
t-thank your for this anon. my life is complete....

>>383183462
That fight and the realization of what emil had done to him hit me harder than anything else in the game

>>383191370
Wow. I also didn't know about this. Just when I thought I had seen everything after that secret "max out all weapons requirement" boss fight.

>>383196073
>chapter select
I only did this to get ending D instantly after getting C because I got a bit spoilered before playing and knew about this.
I don't like the concept. I'd rather go through everything from 0 and immerse myself again than randomly jump into specific spots
Plus I'm autistic and want to max out all the chips

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>>383183462
>this fight actually almost made me cry

>>383178796
In what world is a prologue chapter not part of the real game? You're playing the real game as soon as you turn it on. Though calling Route A/B a prologue is disingenuous, it's the first half of the story. The factory is the prologue.

Only part of the game that feels frustrating due to repetition is the flooded city in route B. Everywhere else you get a smattering of new sidequests, you're playing as a new character, a few new story bits or an entirely different perspective, and you can move at your own pace. Grun sucks. It's long. Both characters play the same in flight units. There's barely anything new. The pace is automated. Awful.

So there are stage plays that go into the story more? Fuck, where can I find a synopsis?

>>383196407

I dunno, I was kind of worried that I'd have to start all over again. As much as I loved the game there's a lot of first time amazement moments that don't hit as hard the second time around.

>>383196562
Scripts
http://nier.alwaysdata.net/index.html

>>383196865
Video of the 4th and 5th concert
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChDv7m5qS2lRgYEL27fXeZA
There are no video of the first 3.

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>>383195883
Part of me feels like that's why The Forest King reveal was semi-played up for laughs with all his followers being total idiots. Because we were expecting those kind of reveals from the start.

Like they knew that the reveal behind the bosses's true intentions in Automata wouldn't have the same surprise or impact that they had after already playing through a similar scenario in Nier 1, so they saved the real emotional twists regarding the end of Yorha and 9S's deteriorating sanity for Route C.

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>>383196562
>all the people who will never know just how happy the ending is because all this extra shit isn't in the game

Where's that DLC?

>>383196865
>>383197073
this is neat
why not monetize this and release as DLC

>>383189672
>>383188639
Is that the whole thing? If it's not really his mom I'll be mildly disappointed

>>383196562
Plus there's a transcript for A2's prequel story.

http://nier2.com/yorha-stage-play/

>>383197395
there is another webm
maybe someone has it

>>383197282
its better than nothing. This gayme didn't have a massive budget so the fact we get anything extra to tie up any knots is nice. squeenix might be content as is.

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>>383197629
>A2 still single
Eh, set something up with one of the twins.

>>383190930
I bought it anyway. Not like I'm going to wear it for parties or anything. It probably won't even fit h-haha..

>>383198037

Well it will have to be with ONE of the twins because the other one is fucking dead.

>>383198037
but anon.. they are kill

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>>383198037
>one of the twins
was gonna post this but >>383198165 ruined my fun

>>383197510
I think I found it but it's behind some some asian login screen on an asian twitter knock off

>>383191512
>machines become more human as time move on
>eventually they start to look like humans
>even use real flesh instead of metal or nano machines or whatever
>basically 100% human now
>completly forget that they're machines
>shitlong time passes
>long ago, in an age tarnished by endless conflict, five beautiful goddesses decended upon the land

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV6srqtPfA4

>>383197301
They put the amazarashi music video that released before the game did in as DLC, wouldn't mind if they added the other side material like that and make the game a complete collection. Even if it meant a lot of it was kept rendered as text novels in the game.

>>383191512

I sort of assumed that the network was now gone forever considering the conscious data of the main machine network fucked off to the moon.

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>>383198165
>>383198225
Call me naive, but if they can glue together 2B and 9S's dismembered, impaled, infected, and torn up remains, and somehow still have all of their memories intact, then I can choose to believe they can find some duct tape for the twins.

>>383197282
Ending E was already a happy ending that made it obvious they were going to wake up. The only reason we even need further confirmation that they wake up and live happily in side material is because OTHER side material for some reason decided to call the resolution of Ending E into question to generate some drama.

I do appreciate seeing stupid fuckers show up in every thread smugly telling other people that the end wasn't happy because they got duped by a concert script, though. That might be worth it.

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>>383198968

I don't think there's enough duct tape in the multiverse to put Popola's mind back together.

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>>383198968
yeah but remember there were a lot of similar android remains of their type remaining. the twins were literally the last of their kind as their model were all killed off after the pair from nier 1 fucked up.

is it ever explained why they all use blindfolds

>>383198965
It seems like the machines weren't built with a network, or at least the network didn't originally have a consciousness. The machine network evolved into N2, and N2 fucked off into space, but in the timeline it says the machines left on earth eventually reform their network. Which sounds bad, but it doesn't mean they've made another N2, though it might end up that way again in the future.

>>383199398
They're "goggles" that augment their vision.

>>383199563
fair enough

>>383198308
post the link

>>383200041
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4120715567715374

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>>383199350
If the framework of the Japanese cityscape can survive 10,000 plus years, I imagine they can find some compatible salvage somewhere out there.

>>383199563

>combat units that are primarily concerned with the here and now have to wear them
>operator units who don't have to give a single fuck about the here and now and would benefit from having their own AR heads up display instead of weird holo-screens don't have to wear them

Really makes you think.

>>383200127
nigga thats not the same at all

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perfect

>>383198968
The problem is a loss of personal data most likely. It's easy to fix a body but if memory is damaged you may as well be dead forever. 2B and 9S are lucky because best dad saved all their data.

>>383200171
The architecture didn't survive 10,000 years, it was already torn down by the first Nier. Once androids started reclaiming the world after replicants went extinct, they began rebuilding in preparation for when the humans would return. It looks so fucked up because it keeps getting destroyed in battles against machines.

>>383200214
Combat units are fighting and moving, the AR display attached to their face is useful for keeping that shit in their field of view while they carry out operations. Operators sit on their ass in the bunker, a screen is fine for them.

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>>383200257
it was supposed to link to pic related

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>>383200396
You find surviving parking tickets and advertisements from the old world though.

>>383200127
this is all I could get, seems to be the same person but not really related to the one posted before

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av11355828/

>>383169515

Going fishing end is the best end.

Everything else ends badly for the best girls.

>>383200710
The androids put them there.

>>383200753
I appreciate the effort. The room and person were the same. Didn't know if it was related

>>383200710
The androids couldn't go around reconstructing ancient cities while they were shepherding the replicants and carrying on the facade they were, but they could certainly collect and preserve simple documents.

>>383200976
we're getting somewhere here

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av11669710/

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>>383199350
Just put in an order form to the local time-traveling dimension jumper for some spare parts.

>>383201238
WHO IS ACCORD TARO

>>383201157
found it with sound, lame, they didn't do shit afterwards

>>383201521
>they didn't do shit afterwards
damn

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>>383201328
An entrepreneur.

>>383201802
see for yourself

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av11668240/

>>383201328
2B and 9S's daughter

>>383201943
oh well. at least I know now

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ALRIGHT BOYS GET IN HERE IT'S TIME TO SETTLE THIS

http://www.strawpoll.me/13381796

>>383197395
It's not. They're both girls.
They are sisters though apparently, if that floats your boat.

>>383204784
The ambiguous represents 9S's dual desires.

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>>383179191

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>>383179191

>>383169515
WAIT A SECOND.

THE WHITE HAIR IS A WIG? SHE'S AN ADORABLE BLONDE UNDERNEATH?

WHAAAAAAAAAAT?

>>383205993
xD

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I have yet to START this game because of bullshit bugs on PC.

I just loaded into the (windowed) main menu, went to settings, changed it to fullscreen, changed the resolution to 1920x1080 and the whole thing froze. Went back in again and tried to change the AA to 8x, it froze again.

What the fuck is this port?

Is there an Automata artbook out there yet?

where do the routes diverge?
plz no spoilers

>>383207703
A and B are the same route but from different points of view, they both continue into route C which is completely different.

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>>383207703

After a very, very long walk to the bridge at the mall.

>>383204784
The side material already cleared it up, it's either fuck or love. 9S later thinks about how it's dirty and improper for a Yorha to have those emotions.

>>383206943
obligatory works for me
Fitgirl repack + lowest settings because I'm still on a 7770
didn't crash a single time. 30 hours played

>>383207703
You progress through them linearly, it's not like a branch route.

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>>383207047
There is.

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You're thinking about how much you want to **** A2 aren't you, Anon?

Opiumud when?

>>383208409
>every 9S design has those faggy shorts

>>383208676
Gotta keep those knees well ventilated, stop them from exploding

>>383193920
9S doesn't
:^)

>>383181845
"Kaine-san"

;_____;

>>383208981
Looks like you fell for the fake script as well.

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>>383208676
2B likes legs.

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>>383208508
You got me.

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These fuckers got under my skin a bit. Got up and went for a walk after the last one jumped.

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>>383208676
They are pivotal to his character.

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>>383209481
>become as gods

>>383179191
mourning was fucking great for ending D, I was really feeling it

>>383197282

So will the next game be about 2B and 9S dealing with the machine civil war, then?

>>383201954
Now I'm not totally sure of this, because I never played Drakengard 3, but isn't Accord trying to look for a timeline where humanity survives?

>>383206943
that's what happens when you try to play this game on a damn toaster. my peecee is just okay and i have yet to have a crash. FAR mod fucks up but the game it self does not.

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>>383215269
She records events surrounding certain world-ending anomalies in Drakengard 3, and ends up helping stop one, but it's never really clear where she came from or who she's working for.

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>>383169515

So humanity are extinct. What are the androids and robots even fighting for? What motivates the player who is a human to keep playing when you already know you cant bring back your own species?

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>>383216264

>>383217034
the androids' entire purpose is to protect humanity. they think that without humanity they have no purpose, turning a blind eye to the fact that the robots have been able to forge their own purpose, different from the one for which they were created.

Whats Automata's equivalent to https://youtu.be/gVCyUqeg0Jk

I need something to listen to before I go to sleep,

>>383216264
BECOME ASS GODS

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>>383179191
>"Surprise! You been basically playing the equivalent of KH2 Roxas' story all along!!

Those magnificent bastards, got me good.

>>383218117
Possessed by Disease, maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlZA1t757kE

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>>383183462
>When their unsettling laughing shifts into pure usnettling sorrow.

>>383169515

E is the best

And also canon

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This is spooky as shit I just noticed on B route there is a ghost at the corner there that shows up for like 1 second.

Not sure if it showed up on A route as well but I didn't notice anything.

>>383191197
There are other yorha bunkers

>the final boss is a group effort to destroy square's logo
>this was publish by them
Does the director have giant brass balls or is he clinical insane? nevertheless what a fucking ride it was.

>>383219107
The fact that i recognize it tells me you didnt play the whole game

>>383219395
He is apparently best friends with the producer of Dragon Quest. He knows there's no way SE can really give him shit when he is backed up by the guy behind of of their biggest moneymakers in japan.

>>383219530
>at route B
>you didn't play the whole game
No shit sherlock.

>>383219719
Play more

>>383219719
>Playing around Route B
>Hanging around in a NieR thread

dude, no joke, get the hell out of here.

NieR threads are notorious for people to just talk huge spoilers. Hell, they have already done it so far.

>>383219719
For your own good, get the fuck out before I tell you that pascal 2b and 9s all die.

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>>383179191

aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>383219395
There's also an option to have one of the boss battles against the CEO of square
The guys that made this don't give a fuck about anything but making a good game

>>383219835
I haven't been spoiled at all yet. I read less than 5 posts and then posted that pic I just took.

This post right now is basically a giant invitation for some bored autismo neet to spoil me out of the kindness of his heart, so I'm not reading beyond this either.

Help im missing one weapon and i don't know where it is. Im also missing some enemy data, i just want to 100% so i can move on, its the first game in a long time i want to see everything in.

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>>383183394
HORRAY

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Amusement Park with the singer was the peak

>>383179191
So good

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>>383179191

>>383179191
never played this fucking game please explain why a credits sequence is great

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>>383208409
>those short-shorts on that one 9S design

>>383224057
>never played this fucking game please explain why a credits sequence is great

I'm not spoiling shit for you

Get out of this thread and play the game and get all five endings, then come back

ok, one of you anime nerds illustrate this
please

>setting: fancy restaurant, 2B & 9S are at a table, the waiter is about to take their order
>2B: so what kind of stuff do you like?
>9S: oh, i like videogames
>2B to waiter: i'll have the mackerel, please.

>>383226793
Noooooooouu

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>>383200396
>>383200710
It is actually the machines who are recreating everything. They are the ones occupying Earth and they just mindlessly rebuild everything to the state it was in when they were there, not realizing that they're rebuilding everything back to their ruined states.