>there are tons of games that do everything zelda does, there

climbing on shit is fun

Shit game

>>383150082
Didn't take long for the Sonyqueer to show his face.

>>383149998
Yeah, they can never list one singular game

Not to mention BOTW does most of the shit like burning on par with those games too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

>>383150547
Literally how fucking new are you?

>>383149998
>mention them
TES
Witcher
They pretty much cover it.

>>383150636
Lol no they fucking don't.
They don't even have sophisticated physics let alone a chemistry engine.
Besides you're already mixing up two separate games to get to a comparison with a single game, I don't know why you consider that you have a point.

who cares about shit enemy variety/combat and a boring story when you can climb shit

>>383150835
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not

but I kind of agree

>>383150372
Those games don't even deserve credit for procedural burning. Twilight Princess was the first game that would have done it if the Gamecube could handle it.

>>383150741
>chemistry engine
>this retard believes Nintendo has chemistry engine in BotW.
Is there anything Nintenfags won't believe?

>>383150741
So your pretty much saying no other game is like zelda because no other game is zelda. What new form of autism has Nintendo created? BOTW is not the first openworld action/rpg kiddo.

>>383151652
It's just the first good one.

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>>383151754

>>383151479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyMsF31NdNc
minute 23

>>383151810
This will never not make me laugh.

>>383151652
It says a lot when the scope of several games (people have listed 9 or more) needs to be put together to get to a comparison to a single game.

>>383151889
Get out with shit.
"Chemistry" my ass. It's all just buzzwords to sound nicely. It's all scripted on certain type of objects in game to behave like this when player does X or Y. It's not real chemistry or physics, or even imitated one.

>>383153179
Yes, it's just a marketing buzzword but to be fair how else do you describe the fire/wind/electricity interactions in a phrase?

>>383152132
Im realy to the point where i can't tell if Nintendo drones are the best shit posters or dumbest fucks on /v/.

>>383153354
They already had a nice word there. A "State" engine would sound much better ant not be an utter lie.

>>383153440
You're not wrong honestly.

>>383150213
Not surprising to see a fanbase as toxic as yours result to using terms like Queer and the N word to insult people in a discussion. For doing nothing but playing and defending kid friendly games all day, Nintendo fans are the most crass and insensitive group of people on the internet.

>>383149998
I just tried Horizon today and holy shit it's bad

>>383153652
>and the N word
the summer is strong with this one

>>383153757
Some of us have been browsing this site since pre-Chanology and have managed to not become chattering replicas of internet racists.

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In-denial kiddies will never accept the reality of why BotW has journalists, rival developers and gamers fawning over it and why it's being cited as a new milestone in gaming.

In most open world games getting to an objective requires nothing more than pointing your character in the right direction on your minimap and moving along a flat trajectory.

In BotW, verticality adds a depth to topographical exploration and navigating the world becomes an interactive and reactive exercise. Seeing an object of interest in the distance requires you to figure out how you will get there, and the game design allows the player to approach situations in their own way and let's them fashion their own solutions depending on the resources they have and/or how they want to play.

Will you climb over the mountains? Maybe equip your climbing gear? Maybe brew some stamina or speeds boosts before you go - that way you can climb quicker and still keep your most powerful armour on. But what about the climate? It's freezing up there. Will you acquire some warmer clothes? Or maybe equip a flame weapon to keep the cold away?

Or maybe you should cross over the low lands? Take a horse perhaps? More chance of enemy encounters or running into assassins though. Maybe you could chop a tree down and fashion a makeshift raft and sail it down river?

The focus on player agency and interactivity is unparalleled in any open world game. Some creative folks even made a fucking flying machine out of junk lying around.

The sheer amount of freedom and experimentation within a world where the systems of interactivity are all intricately connected means that every player will have THEIR own unique gaming experience.

It's takes an extraordinary amount of confidence for a developer to say to a player; go ahead, do whatever you want, it's all good. Most game designers would be utterly terrified to give players such freedom out of fear they would break the game.

>b-but you can climb in Minecraft!

Whatever.

>>383149998
Am I the only who thinks that the animation in FFXV all looked pretty bad? Motion capture without any soul in it.

>>383153791
>being proud of browsing this site during "teh lulz epic for the win" era.

>>383153179
>it's not real chemistry or physics
No shit sherlock
>or even imitated ones
But they are, by your definition
>it's all scripted on certain type of objects to behave like this when player does X or Y
That's an imitation of matter states and what are matter states and their changes? and it's running in real time alongside physics, so why is it wrong to use the expression chemistry engine other than it hurts your ass?

>>383153846
Ahh, I see you watched the Joseph Anderson video. I enjoyed his commentary myself. I have to agree with him: the movement that the game gives you, the freedom to climb up and over objects, and to go to a location as you see fit are definitely the "milestone" achievements other games will want to accomplish. It feels good to get to a location your way, using the right combination of travel methods, potions and what not.

>>383153971
I'm actually proud of the fact that in all that time I've never felt it necessary to denigrate people based on their race. The time frame in which I referenced was just to illustrate that its possible to post here for over a decade and not turn into Pepe.

>>383154260
Most don't take it seriously, it certainly didn't begin seriously.

>>383153949
It was way too overanimated

>>383153372
Not an argument

>>383153846
>It's takes an extraordinary amount of confidence for a developer to say to a player; go ahead, do whatever you want, it's all good.

This is what Todd said in 2011 and the media was going nuts over the "endless posablitys" of skyrim.

BOTW is just another openworld game with a twist. Get over it.

>>383154158
>see you watched the Joseph Anderson video.

I honestly haven't. I thought he hated the game?

>>383154646
>with a twist
What's that twist? multiplicity? emergent gameplay?

>>383154650
There's a wide variety of opinions between hating something and thinking it's the best thing ever, but those don't exist on /v/

>>383154650
He thought it was the best open world exploration he has ever played. The other half like the shrines and story he didn't like.

And they said /v/ was nintendo gaf.

How much time this pathetic show will go on?

>>383154816
>>383155191

No offence to the guy, but the day I started forming my opinions based off some z-list e-celeb on YouTube is the day I end it all.

>>383155726
Agreeing on someone's viewpoint isn't the same as following their opinion.

>>383149998
>exploring IS SO FUN
>shrines
>korok seeds
>chests with weapons that break after 10 slashes
>even bow break fast

>WOWEE THIS PUZZLE IS FUN
>shrines quests
>more korok seeds

i fucking hate ubisoft's open world design

>>383149998
i dont play ubishit games so it was all fresh to me.

>>383149998
>there are tons of games that do that and more
>mention them
Get started mentioning them then and maybe someone will take you seriously.

>>383156279
You make a sound point. If his opinion reflects mine then fair enough, I was simply saying my opinion wasn't influenced by him. I really don't watch youtubers much. But perhaps I'll give his a view.

>>383156906
shit opinion

>>383156906
kek.

>>383150213
>>383149998
Samefag.

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After more than 200 hours of playing I just discovered a whole new side quest today, the one where you have to cure the sick little girl. This game is GOAT.

>>383150636
Where in any of those games can I jump off a moving horse, bomb the grass beneath me to start a fire, and then ride the updraft created by said fire?

At best Zelda gets 8-9/10 because of the forced wagglan bullshit.

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>>383149998
Why are BotW fans so insecure when people criticize their favorite game? If you were confident in this being the best game there ever was, you wouldn't be making dumb threads like this.

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>>383160116
>forced wagglan bullshit.

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>383160507
The shrines.

>>383160507
I forgot about those. In fairness, it's not 'FORCED', just don't do them if you don't want to.

>>383160943
Meant to reply to >>383160571

>>383160943
Forced as in there are no alternative options. They give me the ability to disable motion control but then I gotta put up with moving around like a retard to get some metal balls into a switch. It's dumb.

>>383149998
There's nothing special about BOTW.
I don't understand all this moaning over this game on both sides, tbqh.

>>383159840
Where is that quest?

>>383159840

after 200 hours of playing I just discovered the faggot selling shields on the hill, lmao he was always there and I just skimmed past over him every time, thank god I knew about shield surfing since e3

>>383160943
>just don't do them if you don't want to
And how will you get all the shrine orbs?

>>383165936
You don't need the shrine orbs. You can hearts temporarily by cooking specific meals. That's what's great about the game; there's no one way of doing things. The player can fashion their own methods.

>>383160431
>Why are BotW fans so insecure

Kek. They're not the insecure ones.

>>383166121
What if I want to 100% complete the game?

>>383168445
Even Nintendo don't expect anyone to 100% the game. You literally get a piece of shit for doing it. Nintendo are making fun of how pointless it is. I've played 200 hours, found all the memories, beat every devine beast, completed all 120 shrines and got the best the ending and my completion is still only 43%.

>>383168827
you suck then. 200 hours is enough to get all the quests and korok seeds

>>383168990
I wasn't doing a mad-dash completist run though. I was quite happy taking my time, soaking the world, enjoying the views and experiencing the game at a leisurely pace.

>>383149998
>there are tons of games that do everything zelda does

Please list them.

>>383150636
Haha, no.

>everything Zelda does

Hahaha.

>>383168990
>korok seeds

I swear, the completionist spastics that keep citing the korok seeds as something anyone whould even WANT to look for can fuck right off.

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botw doesnt really do anything new, its claim to fame is putting old things together into a singular neat little package and making it accessible. this isnt wrong or a bad thing, its just not truly anything new.

its basically halo combat evolved. nothing new, but brought together all the little things games that came before it all into one singular package

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>>383170094
its the greatest metaphor. nintendo knows its hardcore fanbase would literally eat shit, so what do they do? litter 900 literal poos around the map. shit makes me laugh everytime someone "shows off" the giant giant shit you get as a reward at the end

>>383149998
>entire game is running through empty fields and waiting for fast travel to load
>goty
lol no

>>383170798
Better get some ice for that ass once all the awards roll in.

Christ, fuck the awards, people will still be analysing BotW a decade from now.

I like how instead of holding your hand through it they treat you like you actually played a game before

>>383154260
fucking roodypoo

>>383171408
How wrong you are.

>>383149998
can false flag threads end already?

>>383154260
You ARE a huge faggot

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Explain to me why I should consider this game good when it has such a high metacritic. Game journos HATE good games and will never praise anything unless they're either paid, bribed, blackmailed, or it fits their corrupt cabal agenda. So them liking it instantly makes it a bad game.

Using the broken clock analogy is literally you admitting that you keep a broken clock in your home and unironically cite it for the time when you know it's broken, which makes your view of time untrustworthy

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>>383171341
i cant wait: shitty playerunknown battlegrounds sweeps the floor because theres literally more copys of that sold then switches that exist

>>383171634
ALRIGHT threads over fellas pols showed up, this threads gonna turn into identity politics in about 5...4...3...2..

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>>383170702
I got plenty to do in the game. And I'm not unhappy when I come across a Korok. They're cute, and it's a nice enough little reward for side tracking every once in a while.

But I'm 50 hours in, and I only have like 42 Korok seeds. No way in hell I'd ever want to look for 900 of those fuckers. Like it even fucking matters.

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>>383171678
or your a contrarian lol

>>383171408
Yes, although the assblasted kiddies on here constantly say:

>B-Baby's first open world game!

And yet BotW treats players with more respect and intelligence than most of it's peer and is ultimately far more sophisticated in it's design to the point where other open world game same archaic and simplistic by comparison.

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>>383171869
>being contrarian against the same people who make articles like pic related

>this is somehow a bad thing

literally any rpg

>hur dur i can climb and cook its so expansive
shut the fuck up, go and play minecraft

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>>383172031
>And yet BotW treats players with more respect and intelligence than most of it's peer
>has absolutely no difficulty whatsoever and does not punish the player in even the slightest for dying

Then again, it's not out of the ordinary for a cinematic experience to baby its players.

>>383171743
never been on pol, but as long as the thread is over

>>383172160
Kek.

>>383172149
>implying anything there is wrong or incorrect

hes literally reporting what a developer said. what part of that was inaccurate? did naughtydog NOT make those claims? its mindblowing you could of chosen ANY article and you chose one that shows gamespot was doing its job

>>383149998
BoTW is a soild 8/10

I love how the haters ignored this anon's post. /v/ BTFO.

>>383171678
So you base your opinions on what other groups thinks?
how do you live with yourself?
I mean what if one day you find out something you like its praised by a game journalist you hate? do you just drop it like an angry child that has been asked to share its toy?

>>383172274
>cinematic experience

Kek.

>>383171614
Fucking beekeeper.

>>383172417
>hes literally reporting what a developer said.
Not only is this the same developer that praises BOTW, but the journalist 100% agrees with the dev, saying that games need to be rid of "problematic" elements like cis white characters. So by default everything they've ever said is wrong, forever, because you don't ever listen to someone who thinks it's a good idea to utter a statement like that.

>>383168445
Then suck it up, goddamn. The motion control puzzles make up less than 5% of the game. Are you that autistic?

>>383153846

This. Totally this.

>>383153846
Nintenbro discovers open world games for the first time.

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>>383172883
Elaborate. I dare you.

>>383172883
Name one that does the things BOTW does

Why is /v/ so goddamn contrarian against good games? First bloodborne, then overwatch, and now BotW. I'm sure there were many before that too. Idort here.

>>383172656
Things I like are never praised by game journos. Maybe prior to gen 6, but everything after has been a consistent pattern. If it's cinematic and has "plenty of diversity" and talks about how problematic video games are, it gets an instant pass by game journos. do you not remember games like Undertale, which received universal acclaim because it showed how evil gamers were for wanting to kill enemies in games? Or how about Uncharted, that had strong independent womyn beat up the main protagonist for his privilege? But never once do they praise a game for its gameplay, and if they do, they use rationality that often is just a bunch of buzzwords, like "I feel free when playing the game" or "it's liberating and emotional".

Meanwhile these same people argue about how pac-man is sexist because there's not enough character diversity and his game is too "videogamey" because it doesn't have enough cutscenes. And yet you trust these people in the slightest?

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>>383173126
>B-but you can climb in Minecraft! And-and GTA had rain!

>>383153846
Fuck you I'm turning on my switch right now and playing BotW until I pass out. So much for going out tonight

>>383153179
Check out this guy. He JUST realized video games are pretend.

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>>383172704
>but the journalist 100% agrees with the dev
the journalist who interviewed him, who isnt affialited with gamespot? WOW, guess that means gamespot agrees with it.

you cant even read or understand the articles your citing as evidence that gamespot is bad, and im supposed to take you seriously.

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>>383173516
>WOW, guess that means gamespot agrees with it.

Well, their previous actions definitely don't argue against it. or were you not here prior to 2014?

>>383172274
>not punish in the slightest for dying

>fairies and Mipha's Grace depleted

>probably a lot of weapons, shields, and food stuffs gone

>back down at the bottom of some hellhole or whatever

Of course, you can just load a previous save, but don't all open world games allow that?

What's even the point of discussing punishment in open world? Because noone does that harsher than Minecraft, and /v/ hates that too.

>>383150636
The Witcher is like the exact opposite of Zelda. More substantial, story-driven sidequests, but also the perfect example of why making an open world doesn't mean you should forget about level design.

>>383149998
Just can't keep Horizon out your mouth can you? Botwfags stay pressed, it's hilarious.

>>383173196
You look intelligent if you dislike something you perceive the majority to like.

Or at the very least you get to "defend your opinion" against "sheep" which is also very wise use of your time.

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>>383150497
>look mom I posted it! How many good boy points am I at?

>>383173726
Don't forget the god awful controls. It's a good story though

>>383173669
>oh shit i guess hes right, better pretend i ment to post this one first
anyways, your argument is still "everyone else is wrong but ME!". lol contrarian

>>383173760
Don't act like there wasn't already a horizon thread today shilling it's free extra hard mode against Zelda's DLC, Sony bro

>>383173897
Eternally assblasted.

>>383173995
>anyways, your argument is still "everyone else is wrong but ME!"
And since everyone else likes cinematic movies, I'm objectively right. See, there's a reason why game journos were laughed out of /v/, as were people who linked to them unironically.

>>383173718
>all things you can get back instantly, since the game scatters them around like candy (weapons especially)

The only thing I'll accept is losing ALL of your progress and items you can't get back, essentially destroying your save. Or at least offer the option for that. Better yet, give me a mode where you can't save. You have to beat the whole game in one sitting. Some options would be nice, instead of coddling me with a game that doesn't punish me for screwing up.

>Because noone does that harsher than Minecraft, and /v/ hates that too.
I think the punishment mechanic in Minecraft is okay, but I think Terraria does it even better with its hardcore mode. You die once, you lose EVERYTHING.

>>383174479
>I'm objectively right
>everyone likes it
>so everyones wrong
lol. objectively.

When is the "discussion" going to end with this? Every topic has the same replies every time for a long time now. You socially needy autists

>>383174592
when you argue that a video game's greatest strength isn't its gameplay mechanics, or how you actually play it, then yes I'm afraid you're wrong. No amount of story or graphics will redeem a game if it's mechanics are terrible.

>>383153846
So it's like Minecraft but less.

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>>383174792
and yet, you JUST got done saying every loves those cinematic games with crappy gameplay mechanics? can you stop...objectively contradicting yourself lol

>>383174731
It'll end sometime next year when there are some new titles out which people who don't like Zelda can look forward to for GOTY winners.

People around here care a lot about game journalists' opinions, you know.

>>383149998
BoTW is literally just a Garrys Mod add on. The physics are the same from a game that was realised in 2004. Really impressive guys.

>>383174942
His point is most likely that something isn't good just because everyone loves it. It's good when HE loves it.

>>383174802
Kek. The denial.

>>383174942
>and yet, you JUST got done saying every loves those cinematic games with crappy gameplay mechanics
Because the majority of the industry are sheep who lap up anything their corporate masters tell them to? This is common knowledge anon, keep up. If the masses were always objectively right, then the Ps4 would objectively be the best console of this gen, yet not a soul here will say that lest they be accused of being from neogaf.

>>383171408
That and they actually let you find out things for yourself. What a 180 from SS where Fi practically wouldn't let you wipe your butt by yourself.

Lightning in a storm is a great example where they'll just let you figure it out or die on your own.

>>383175141
>trying to start shit this late in the thread.

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>>383175141

>>383174479
>Some options would be nice, instead of coddling me with a game that doesn't punish me for screwing up.

Well, some would call that "rewarding the player for experimenting" instead, but I see what you mean.

>>383175258
and? i guess that makes you a contrarian. your saying its "unredeemable, oh but everybody loves it and its adored by anyone but me".

you know what you are. your the old man yelling at clouds. when your grandpa complains about in the good old days he walked 49 miles to snow. thats you.

>>383149998
like being able to cut down fucking trees and burn some fucking grass is "innovative"

>>383153846
/v/ BTFO.

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>>383175447
>"unredeemable, oh but everybody loves it and its adored by anyone but me".
I don't quite know how else I can say this.

>>383175258
>the majority is stupid
>this is common knowledge

Among who?

It'd be common if the majority knew. What kind of fucking superiority complex are you walking around with?

>>383175703
"i cant actually prove any of my claims and all my statements are opinion" would be a good start

>>383175703
Well, you opted for proving him right in you just being a contrarian, so you don't really HAVE to say it any other way.

>>383171678
>game is bad because it has a high metacritic
>game is good because it as a bad metacritic

You must have loved Mass Effect Andromeda, anon.

>>383175751
>>383175861
>>383175909
Disagreeing with me essentially means that you're praising every single game on the image I posted, AND you agree that they're objectively perfect games. If you agreed with me even in the slightest, then that would mean acknowledging that game journos overhype games based not on the gameplay, but on popular opinion and their own biased agendas, not even taking into account the possibility of bribery and temptation for adspace and clickbait. They have never praised a good game. And if your only defense is "the masses like it, therefore it's good" then you can't turn around and say "but the Ps4 sucks, the masses are wrong." You contradict yourself.

>>383176058
Now, i never said a game is good if it has a bad metacritic. All that says is that reviewers weren't bribed to like the game.

>>383151904
How fucking suicidal do you have to be to literally laugh out loud in real life over a wojack macro and then tell people about it?

>>383176242
and they are. your argument is still literally "everyone but me thinks im wrong"

and i never said the ps4 sucked, lol.

>>383176242
>Disagreeing with me essentially means that you're praising every single game on the image I posted

No.

Do you take this much time out for being wrong every evening?

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>>383175703
Damn you sure disabled his argument with your meme image and your parenthesis.

>>383176361
>and they are
But they're not.

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>>383153179
>It's not real chemistry or phsics

>>383176735
You're defending game journalists who literally gave 10/10 scores to a walking simulator that can be beaten in 20 seconds, yet costs 20 dollars.

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>>383153846
Agreed. Breath Of The Wild is amazing. I haven't enjoyed a game this much in years.

>>383176746
>"everyone but me thinks im wrong"

>>383177065
And I can prove that i'm right, while everyone else is only riding along because they want to be part of a bandwagon.

Facts > popular opinion.

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>>383177128
>and i can prove im right

>>383177128
>while everyone else is only riding along because they want to be part of a bandwagon.

Wew, it really is superiority complex in here.

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why do people get butthurt and shitpost about BotW
It is an amazing game.
but you still get the fags who are "it's shit get over it"
Do they lack the ability to critically and objectively look at a games merits?, are theythe cowadoody fanboys who think if the game does not have guns and is playing at 700fps it is shit?, or they are just poorfags who cannot afford a wiiU?

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Well /v/ heres your challenge

Developers have 300 rupees to spend on making new enemies. Here are the enemies you can choose from. Which do you add to the game?:

Environmental Hazard Class: 30 rupees each
>Leever
>Peahat
>Tektite
>Wallmaster
>Bari
>Anti-Fairy
>Poe
>Freezard
>Guay
>Skulltula
>Pol's Voice
>Miniblin

Major Enemy Class: 60 rupees each
>Like Like
>Redead
>Goriya
>Stalfos Knight
>Daira
>Fokka
>White Wolfos
>Eyegore
>Kargaroc

Miniboss Class: 120 rupees each
>Darknut
>Dodongo
>Gohma
>Dead Hand
>Patra
>Ball & Chain Trooper

>>383177487
>>383177339
>>383177350
okay then, I present to you a challenge: if Zelda is objectively a good game, then find me one thread about it in the past 3 days or so that was purely about gameplay discussion. It cannot have any discussion about porn, it cannot have any shitposting, and it cannot go off topic for even one post. Prove to me that the game deserves the praise it gets by being an objectively good game.

why do I have this metric? Well, a bad game like Undertale will have its threads constantly break down into porn dumps and creepy tumblr-tier erotic roleplay, all because it does not have good gameplay, and it can't hold a discussion. So please, prove your side.

>>383177596
>darknut
>poe
>like like
thats it, others would not suit the game

>>383177864
A Nintendo thread will always attract assblasted shitposters.

>>383177864
you dumb faggot.
it is fucks like you that constantly derail a thread like this shitpost that you just posted.

There seems to be either shitposters or genuine anti nintendo/console fanboys on /v/ who constantly bitch and derail any nintendo, or zelda thread.
just like you constantly get the newfags who try to post the PCmasterace meme

>>383177596
leever
tektite
wallmaster
poe
skulltula
freezard
like-like
redead

instead of adding minibosses, moldulgas / hinox / stalnox / dragons / talus / wizzrobes should actually be CHALLENGING

saludos

>>383177864
>if Zelda is objectively a good game, it must be proven within the confines of a chinese image board full of homos. Otherwise it must be shit!

>>383178163
>>383178198
If someone attacks the thread with shitposting, I don't hold that against the game itself. Console warriors will be console warriors. However, when the fanbase itself invites the shitposting and actively takes part in it, all I see is them shouting "we don't like the game, so we're passing the time by shitposting". That's what a thread like that says to me.

After all, if your game was so fun, wouldn't you be spending time playing it and discussing the finer merits of the gameplay, instead of jerking off to Mipha and gerudo porn? You can't do both at the same time, and if you could, that just means the game is so casual that you can play it with one hand, which is another problem entirely.

>>383177864
your here, and your a contrarian. how can i know its not just....you, every time?

this was your objective proof, lol

Back flip, slow-mo, MASH MASH MASH MASH
Back flip, slow-mo, MASH MASH MASH MASH
Back flip, slow-mo, MASH MASH MASH MASH
Back flip, slow-mo, MASH MASH MASH MASH

Revali's Gale, climb, climb, climb
Revali's Gale, climb, climb, climb
Revali's Gale, climb, climb, climb
Revali's Gale, climb, climb, climb

Waiting for rain to stop....
Waiting for rain to stop....
Waiting for rain to stop....
Waiting for rain to stop....

>>383178482
>implying anyone on /v/ actually plays vidya

I have played BotW master mode for 8 hours today
I'm lurking and shitposting until sleep then I will be back playing vidya tomorrow

>>383178787
why would I post porn of a game I don't even like? Furthermore, if I liked porn everywhere on 4chan, I would be just like 90% of the site. How is that contrarian?

>>383149998
>What is the Red Faction series
Also, just because you do a whole bunch of things in a mediocre fashion instead of one thing really well doesn't make the game good.

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>>383177864
>It cannot have any discussion about porn, it cannot have any shitposting, and it cannot go off topic for even one post
what the fuck does this have to do with it being a good game or even prove....fucking anything at all? "its not a good game if a single post about the women in it has ever been made about it on /v/"

i dont fuckin even, i. lol what.

>>383178962
because your salty. and you cant comprehend that someone could post porn AND like the game, lol.

>>383179247
Consider this: why are you posting porn of the game if it supposedly has good enough gameplay to have a discussion about? Wouldn't you be compelled to discuss this supposedly "amazing" gameplay? The lack of discussion there means that there is a lack of said amazing gameplay. It's simple logic.

>>383179354
>you cant comprehend that someone could post porn AND like the game, lol.
If you want porn, then just go to /aco/ or exhentai and jack off there. Why would you want that in an interactive medium like video games? porn is actively detrimental to good video games.

>>383178850
meanwhile in soulsborne:

>roll
>hit hit
>roll
>hit hit
>roll
>hit hit
>run run run run run
>waiting for pop-in to load

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>>383179468
who says you cant do both?

>>383179616
Why would you do both? Isn't the game good enough to warrant your undivided attention? It's like when someone praises an RPG, but then they paraphrase it by saying "it's good when you have youtube open to watch a video while grinding for items because the grinding is extremely boring". I'm thinking "why the hell are you playing it in the first place if it's so boring that you need something to do in the meantime"?

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As a long time zelda fan, I do not like Botw. The game isn't zelda. It's the worst zelda ever. I wanted fleshed out dungeons. I wanted a narrative. I wanted a tag along partner that gives me some kind of character in this dead world. I wanted some interesting locations that weren't just the same plain textured look. I didn't want the entire game to be an endless physics puzzle. If you think the problem with old dungeons were their linear puzzle design, this is the same problem. We just switched to making the entire game now about a havoks engine. I miss having a villain that made me give a damn or had some kind of character. Breakable weapons are cancer. Make a good weapon system or stick to the old formula of timpering the a better sword than the master sword. I miss orchestrated music that fit the tone of different areas instead of reusing the same piano music throughout the game.

Botw is a terrible game. I hate it so much. Just give me the third OoT trilogy game were supposed to get after MM and I'll be happy for the rest of my life.

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>>383179870
>Why would you do both?
because you can.

your literal argument is that if you do anything but talk about the games gameplay, its not a good game. even australians put more thought into their shitposting

>>383173196
>Overwatch
>Good
I agree to the others but Overwatch is hot garbage and will always be because Blizzard is doing the "balancing".

>>383179872
>I wanted a tag along partner that gives me some kind of character in this dead world.
But all zelda "companions"have been shit.
also nice pasta my dude.

>>383179872
>Just give me the third OoT trilogy game were supposed to get after MM
TP exist and guess what? It's fucking shit. Enjoy your wagglan, faggot.

>>383180081
>your literal argument is that if you do anything but talk about the games gameplay, its not a good game.
And how is this wrong? A good game would warrant your complete attention. a game you can half-ass both in gameplay and discussion is not good in the slightest. You forget that this is /v/- video games, not /v/- post porn whenever you want. If you're not talking about the game, then you're no better than someone posting a thread about e-celebs, then justifying it by saying "well they mentioned minecraft once during their rant about gender politics!" That's not good enough, and furthermore you're abusing this board's status as a blue board by thinking you're somehow above the rules. You call me a contrarian, but boy, the amount of people I've seen swear out the mods for rightfully deleting porn in zelda threads is absurd.

>>383180557
TP is not the MM follow up. We were promised this shit but then nintendo went

>welp, lets ignore our addon and just make Gamecube

And then we got WW, a game we never asked for. I've hated Nintendo ever since. TP was ok but it was too damn modernized with cinematic shit and bad filters.

>comfy Zelda thread
>rabid Sony cucks come in and shit it up with their autism
EVERYTIME. Literally.
How do we fight this neogaf menace, /v/?

>>383180695
Isn't it time for your pills, gramps?
>>>/vr/

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>>383179872
>long time zelda fan
>doesn't like tLoZ2.0

>>383180884
zelda 1 was better than botw by the fact it was an actual zelda game experience.

>>383180604
lol, cept some games are porn games. wew lad. in some cases, its not literally possible to talk about a games gameplay without talking about porn, so not is it only possible, its almost impossible to NOT do.

lad, your logic, just, wew.

>>383180965
>lol, cept some games are porn games
Those aren't games. They're visual novels. The "game" part is false advertising, just like the term "role playing GAME" which is falsely applied to movies like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.

>in some cases, its not literally possible to talk about a games gameplay without talking about porn
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Here's a daring thought
Features aren't everything

>>383181290
>Those aren't games. They're visual novels
AA2 is a VN? Well that's news to me.

>>383180934
>actual zelda game experience.
exactly what BotW is, free roam, free to go in any direction and get lost in the world.
no babysitting, tutorials or handholding you through the game.
It's more of a LoZ game that any game since tLoZ

>>383181290
lol, no. theres vr porn, theres super deep throat, so on, so fourth. shit nigga i wasnt even including vn`s because then you could talk about the...story, and not the porn. your 2 steps behind

>>383153652
Queer means strange faggot

>>383181427
Zelda was also about adventuring, dungeon raiding, and going through a story to save the kingdom and or save the princess. Botw is a game about a amnesiac boy whose pasttime consists of being an add kid jumping around the field while some girl in his head keeps telling him to come save her. Meanwhile, Link is more motivated to go after korok seeds and play around in shrines cause he's literally made to be an avatar for minecraft kids who rather not be told what to do.

>>383181405
Yes, it is. Every AA game is a cinematic novel. The threads are also proof of this, since they're nothing but posting porn of the female characters, no gameplay discussion.

>>383181475
>lol, no. theres vr porn, theres super deep throat
Again, those aren't games. They're crap you'd see in an ad before a youtube video, and if you don't already have ublock origin enabled, then that's even worse.

>>383177487
Objectively look at what merits?
It's not hand-holdy and has meme physics that don't actually translate into a better game.
There. Done.

>>383182076
>meme physics
Meme post.

>>383149998
I guarantee there are things you can do in BotW that you can't do in any other game.

>>383181752
>they arent games
right back to "everyone but me is wrong"
lol

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>>383182076
>meme physics

>>383182473
name one

>>383182545
>>383182169
Physics rarely translate into good gameplay. They usually just get in the way.
Case in point, Half-Life 2

>>383160571
i mean, turning the controller isnt really wagglan, but i guess it can be a pain. i didnt mind the shrines that did do that, but i would have liked some other options

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Before I start, I wanna preface this by mentioning that I think both of these games are mediocre. Despite that however, I feel both much more successful at being open world exploration games than BotW

For starters, Skyrim has much better quest lines than those found in BotW, the majority of which are just fetch quests. Following in this, unlike BotW, Skyrim also has much more intricate dungeons that actually feel rewarding, and give you a proper incentive to explore. Not only are you rewarded in loot and Exp, but you also come across unique powers at the end of them which makes them a worthwhile. BotW, the dungeons in the game feel a lot more like busywork needed to complete in order to progress the story or upgrade your stats. Even if the puzzles in BotW are much better than those in Skyrim, the execution of said puzzles goes to waste with the miserable dungeon design that doesn't even feel like they're a proper part of the world, carefully woven into locales. It breaks the immersion

Which brings me to FO4, if there's one thing FO4 succeeds in, it's in crafting a world that's fun to explore through its visual narrative and careful attention to detail. Every bit of the map is littered with content and things to explore, unique things to discover, etc... and it all flows so seamlessly too. From the narrow streets of Concord, to the tall high rises in Boston, to the Factories, to the countryside, to the crater, etc... BotW still follows that stunted Zelda division of the land that honestly feels illogical. And everything is so barren of personality or story. Nothing in it makes any sense. Despite it being post apocalypse and in ruin, everyone is so happy and carefree. And no, being able to climb anything doesn't fix this. The world in BotW feels like a videogame, not like a unique to world to explore

Exploring in these games is fluid and organic. You discover something new by arriving to it, totally unlike BotW's towers.

>>383182510
because I'm right. Super Deep Throat has as much interactivity as a DVD for a movie. And if we're going by that logic, then consoles like the Ps4 and Xbox would be a treasure trove of "games", now wouldn't they?

>>383182867
>implying the grav gun got in the way of gameplay
>implying BotW's emergent physics are in any way bad.
if anything BotW physics nave paved a way for endless replayability, multiple solutions to problems and will most likely influence vidya for a generation

>>383183362
>if anything BotW physics nave paved a way for endless replayability,
which is why people actively refuse to talk about the game and just choose to post porn instead? Sounds contradictory.

>>383183193
Go to sleep, Todd, I ain't buying your shit games.

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>>383183193
found you todd

>>383183193
You're not wrong. As much as I hate open world memes, FO and Elder Scrolls did it better. Botw feels like it took their formula and babied it up.

I had more enemy variety in fucking Prey 2017 than BOTW, which is sad.

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>>383183574
>>383183521
>games have received universal acclaim across the board by game journos
>you can't argue against them otherwise you're a contrarian
>therefore they're objectively perfect games

Really makes you think.

>>383183362
How about all the shoe-horned physics puzzles that only existed to showcase the engine? And completely shot-to-hell the pacing?
Also
>Emergent Physics
What the fuck do you mean? Stop using reviewer buzzwords and say it in plain English.

>>383183921
Chuchu (plain, fire, ice, electric)
Keese (plain, swarm, fire, ice, electric)
Octorok (blue, green, rock, mimic)
Pebblit (regular, fire, ice)
Bokoblin (red, blue, black, silver, stal) - Weapon Variable
Moblin (red, blue, black, silver, stal) - Weapon Variable
Lizalfos (green, blue, black, silver, fire, ice, electric, stal) - Weapon Variable
Wizzrobe (fire, ice, lightning) - Weapon Variable
Yiga Footsoldier (melee, bow) - Weapon Variable
Yiga Blademaster (normal, guard)
Lynel (red, blue, black, silver) - Weapon Variable
Hinox (red, blue, black, stal)
Guardian (normal, broken, turret)
Guardian Skywatcher (normal)
Guardian Scout (I, II, III) - Weapon Variable
Talus (stone, igneo, frost)
Molduga (normal)
Malice (eyeball, eyeball + mouth)
Cursed (boko, moblin, lizalfos)
Dragon (fire, ice, electric)

>>383182735
Show me a game where I can jump off a moving horse, while in the air, use a fire arrow on the grass beneath me to start a fire, and then ride the updraft created by said fire.

>>383183968
So you agree that BotW is a perfect game then? Good.

>>383184046
>How about all the shoe-horned physics puzzles that only existed to showcase the engine? And completely shot-to-hell the pacing?
What did he mean by this?

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>>383182076
>meme physics

The tears are relentless.

>>383184252
Only if you agree that games like Uncharted and TLOU are better than games like Wonderful 101, Splatoon, Bayonetta, Smash Brothers, Kid Icarus, and anything with a lower metacritic score.

>>383184294
So I take it you didn't play Half Life 2?

>>383183714
Thank you.
I honestly think FO4 is a shit fucking game, and a smear on the franchise. But I will praise it for what it did right. The world in FO4 is more finely crafted than the one in BotW, which honestly just feels like a videogamey sandbox with little thought put into it. And the difference here is experience. If there's one thing Bethesda is very good at, it's creating worlds, and they understand something Nintendo doesn't, and these are cohesiveness and visual narrative. FO4 is fun to explore not because FO4 has a good story or good mechanics, no, it's because Bethesda knows that OW thrive on constructing an interesting living world with its own cohesive narrative. Not a videogame, but an immersive experience.

Thus, in that regard, BotW majorly fails. So I think it's probably more fair to judge BotW as a sandbox game than an OW due to how clumsy the world is.

But then, comparing it to GTA, GTA has a much better gameplay loop than BotW. You can jump into GTA and within minutes be doing something fun. BotW, you have long pauses of nothing on horseback before anything happens, and this severely affects the gameplay loop.

Overall, BotW just feels like a game that's at odds with itself. It's like a Frankenstein Monster of OW tropes and mechanics with little thought put into the overall picture and a Zelda logo slapped on.

I firmly believe that if this was a new IP, it wouldn't be getting so much praise.

>>383184046
>How about all the shoe-horned physics puzzles that only existed to showcase the engine? And completely shot-to-hell the pacing?
what!

>Emergent Physics
>What the fuck do you mean?
it means that the physics and the ability to use them are an essence of the game. They run deep into every puzle, exploration and combat mechanic.
It is obvious when the devs decided to make the game, they had 3 concepts, freedom of exploration, wild/lonliness and physics manipulation.
then all that came after these concept were build around them.

Even the dungeons, a staple in tLoZ series, are all physics based.
Where before every dungeon had a definite linear way through it, in BotW you can use the physics to find your own way of completing the dungeon.

>>383184840
>literal reddit spacing
>retarded drivel
Jesus christ, is this a joke post? Please be bait.

>>383184221
Skyrim. Checkmate faggot

>>383183193
>Skyrim also has much more intricate dungeons that actually feel rewarding, and give you a proper incentive to explore
Stopped reading right there, I've got 200 hours in both games and Skyrim's dungeons are total trash compared to BotW's.

>>383185028
>Newfag cannot recognize reddit spacing nor make a cohesive argument, therefore does the tiresome shitpost and does it wrong.
That isn't reddit spacing friendo

>>383185028
>reddit spacing
Fuck off back to your safespace you meming fuck.

People have been typing like this since the dawn of the internet.

>>383185030
You can't do that in skyrim.

>>383172149
Contrarian means yous do the opposite just because it's the opposite not because it's right, so yeah, it's always bad to be contrarian.

>>383185030
Don't talk such utter fucking shite.

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Game is awesome.

>>383185284
>con·trar·i·an
>kənˈtre(ə)rēən/
>noun: contrarian; plural noun: contrarians
>1.a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion, especially in stock exchange dealing.

Whoops, there's nothing that says anything about motive.

>>383185259
yes you can
learn to 2 mod

>>383177864
I've actually found it's the shit games that people talk the most about now.

>>383185513
Show me the mods to do that, it'll give me something to try out later.

>>383185640
So by this logic Zelda is a shit game because it has more discussion than Horizon or Uncharted?

>>383185804
No, and the opposite isn't true either.

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Consider the psychological themes of each Zelda game:

Link's Awakening:
>Psychosis
Ocarina of Time:
>Bildungsroman
Majora's Mask:
>Catharsis
Wind Waker:
>Palingenesis
Twilight Princess:
>Ostracization
Skyward Sword:
>Self-Sacrifice
Breath of the Wild:
>Transience

Why is one series allowed to plumb the depths of man's psyche?

>>383184161
The most common enemies you run into are only four of those. Everything else is a boss and one of them you cannot ever kill.

>>383185963
Breath of the Wild's theme is autism.

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>>383186170
You're life's theme is autism

>>383177596
Darknut, peahats, like likes, Skullutla

i come to /v/ only like 1nce a week just to see your virgins bitch at each other

you guys are such fucking losers lmfao its a fucking video game why are you guys even discussing it or even on this board

>>383182921
It's not something that kills the game, but it automatically doesn't get a perfect score for it in my eyes.

>>383184884
You're still not giving an answer.
The physics run deep--in what way?

Or better yet, these physics. How are they any better than just using prerendered shit? What does it offer over the more conventional method? You mentioned multiple solutions, but in my experience with the game it's fairly clear the devs invisioned just one solution for puzzles.
And even if combat allows for multiple ways to deal with it, it doesn't matter because they other methods are so clunky you'll default to standard sword swinging.

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>>383186021
common enemies:
>chuchu
>keese
>octorok
>pebblit
>bokoblin
>moblin
>lizalfos

isolated pseudominibosses:
>wizzrobe
>yiga footsoldier
>yiga blademaster
>lynel
>guardian
>guardian skywatcher
>guardian scout
>malice/cursed
>dragon

full blown miniboss with an hp bar:
>hinox
>talus
>molduga

How is that not enough? Thats more variety than say OOT which had only a small handful of swordfighting enemies

>>383185963
Holy shit, this is advanced autism
You're WAY over thinking these kids games.

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Would probably be a good game if all its content wasn't recycled 15, 120 and 900 times and the combat system wasn't weaker than TP.

>>383186429
that pic does not list all oot's enemies.

>>383186429
>>chuchu
>>keese
>>octorok
These are traps, not enemies.
Why aren't bees on the list?

>>383185950
all I'm saying is this: a game with good gameplay will usually have discussion about it, or at the least not turn into a porn dump when it's discussed.

>>383186538
except its not

Links Awakening:
>Link is trapped in a delusional psychotic coma and is seeking to break free of the barriers within his own mind so he can escape to the real world, where he discovers the hopeless nature of his impending death

Ocarina of Time:
>Coming of age tale in which a boy loses his childhood home and friends as he ages, but comes to look back and learn from his experiences to grow into a young worldly man

Majora's Mask:
>Literally every NPC and quest in the game is Link helping someone overcome their grief in some way, and the main questline involves coping with the loss of a friend, and stopping someone who is himself depressed from being isolated

Wind Waker:
>An old corrupted and failed world is literally washed away to create a new kingdom in its former's likeness, giving hope to the next generation to start anew

Twilight Princess:
>You are exiled from your home as a disformed miscreant, only to find unwilling solace with another disformed miscreant, where you try to save a world that you have become completely invisible to, trying to stop an invisible threat who was long exiled

Breath of the Wild:
>You fall from your heavenly perch to save an underworld, a god sacrifices itself to become mortal to save the world, a sword spirit sacrifices itself, the entire heavens crash to earth to seal evil, and heroes take on an immortal curse to hold back the evil

Breath of the Wild:
>things falls apart. Everyone you ever knew died, all NPCs deal with the temporal nature of their lives, the kingdom is dead and cannot be brought back, only temporary reprieve can be fought for, you bring nobody closure, only another day

>>383186429
Compared to other fantasy OW games, that is a pitiful variety of enemies.

>dogs
>wolves
>griffins
>night and noon wraith
>ghouls
>alghoul
>fiend
>leshen
>Ekkimara
>drowners
>bears (including one you have to fistfight)
>basilisk
>sirens
>katakan
>giant
>riders of the wild hunt
>humans
>elemental golem (fire, ice, earth)
>endrega
>endrega warriors
>ekhida
>foglet
>water hag


Here I don't want to type anymore.
http://m.ign.com/wikis/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/Enemies

>>383186815
how is a chuchu, keese or octorok a 'trap' in botw but were enemies in oot/mm?
an octorok will scoot around, hide underground, is affected by the same AI and detection/stealth as other monsters, can be burnt or electrified or frozen, blasted around with physics, etc

its just an enemy with 1 hp

>>383187618
the crucial difference though is BotW's combat is actually good, especially compared to Witcher 3.

>>383188108
>the crucial difference though is BotW's combat is actually good,
The metacritic would argue otherwise. It didn't frustrate enough of the filthy casuals, so it's too braindead.

>>383188108
Botw's combat is not good. Holy shit. There is no depth in that system at all. Zelda games never had hard combat, but you're lying if you believe the combat is anything more than swinging until it's dead. Not to mention the most atrocious weapon system ever created.

>>383188108
>trigger flurry to win
Kek, so in-depth.

Witcher combat isn't the best ever, but it isn't atrocious like shitposters claim.

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>>383188108
>this is what plebes consider "good" combat

>>383172729
Why are you so angry? The motion controls puzzles are objectivity bad.

>>383188618
What's wrong with it?

>>383188278
who is this metacritic person and what does he have specifically against BotW's combat?
>>383188352
> you're lying if you believe the combat is anything more than swinging until it's dead.
try that against a lynel, see how far it gets you
>>383188497
flurry rush isn't as useful as people meme it to be, parrying is far more effective.
>>383188618
what's wrong with this webm?

>>383188618
Holy shit that looks fucking great!

>>383188821
My problem with the combat is that it's too easy. You can kill anything without much effort. And I'm sorry, but this is objective fact if you look at the glowing praise given to it by the casual (((journalist))) masses.

>>383188986
>this is objective fact
It literally isn't you autistic meme

>>383188986
eh, I mostly agree. It has some challenge when you're starting out with weak gear and you don't know the enemies attack patterns, but it becomes far easier as time goes on. Lynels are about the only enemy that mostly remains a threat.

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>>383188821>>383188821
>>383188959
look at these shills
this combat is fucking AWFUL
I don't understand how you can defend it lmao
just look at how shit this is

>>383189093
Then why do the casual sheep like the game so much, when they've been brainwashed to like cinematic movies and casual games made for a quick buck?

>>383189206
not an argument

>>383189168
I don't get it, what's wrong with these webms?
The previous webm was a bokoblin being knocked back mid-air, and this one shows a keese electrocuting a bokoblin and then link.

>>383179872
>As a long time zelda fan, I do not like Botw. The game isn't zelda. It's the worst zelda ever
It's the first real Zelda game since the original.

>>383189303
It is an argument, considering how all the industry has switched their target audience from gamers to casuals. Go to any gdc keynote and they majority says their target audience is as many people as possible.

t. game dev who only goes to gdc now to chat with oldbies who also agree that the industry is shit

>>383174479
I'm not reading the reply chain, but HZD is 90-95% gameplay. Cinematic in terms of good graphics, movie in that there's more cutscenes than Zelda. You still spend the entire fucking game playing. You fags act like it's Heavy Rain or some shit.

>>383189427
>It is an argument
no it isn't

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>>383189358
You can't be a "real" zelda without first being zelda.

>>383189521
define zelda

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>>383189356
this combat is SHIT
Links is just swinging his weapon like a retard
game is pausing for menus
enemies are jumping like cartoon and taking 10 seconds for a single attack
link doesn't even have a button to dodge lmao
how are you supposed to have good combat in a game where you can't even dodge or roll or counter, all you do is sit there like a retard

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>>383189610
I'm posting it, faggot

>>383189449
how many enemies are there inside the hollow mountain base
whoops that entire segment of the game is just Gone Home, you stroll around listening to audiotapes for 30 minutes

>>383189521
Zelda is in BOTW so...

>>383189615
>Links is just swinging his weapon like a retard
he's clearly using a bow and a boomerang in that webm.

>>383173726
This is a reasonable post.

Witcher has by far more entertaining world-building, side-quests and character arcs, but BotW has better interaction with the world itself.

No reason to be a hateful autist. Both are good for different reasons.

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>>383189168
I went to the gerudo highlands today, there were 2 bokoblins riding bears attacking 2 rhinos, who then saw me and come after me, 1 black 1 gold, then I stasised the gold one and used a meteor rod on the other, which hit the rhinos, so i ended up having 2 rhinos, 2 bears and 2 bokoblins come at me at the same time.

>>383189463
Then explain why games like TLOU and Uncharted and Horizon can garner so much praise.

>>383189615
>how are you supposed to have good combat in a game where you can't even dodge or roll or counter
You dodge by jumping and moving a direction, you can also counter by parrying by pressing attack whilst blocking at the right time. You sure you've played this game?

>>383189853
Because they're good games too? I dunno.

"It sucks because reviewers gave it a high score and that is bad because of my personal agenda" is hardly an objective argument.

>>383189895
thats not a dodge button. THeres no dodge animation or abilities
thats not a counter button. Hold it down and you get hit and die how is that a counter button

>>383189168
Are you posting these ironicallly? Link just shot an electrified bat (keese) and resulting electric burst fried the bokoblin as he rose through it. That's cool as fuck.

>>383189615
>all you do is sit there like a retard
or you know, you could block with your shield, or parry, or dodge, or backflip.

Ironically I can smell the "souls games are great combat" autism on you, which you don't realize that they have just copied zeldas combat

>>383190021
yep, you really haven't played the game

I love how the shitposters still haven't been able to answer OPs question

>>383190000
>TLOU or Uncharted
>good games

And this is your argument? Games that struggle to run a consistent FPS and are lucky if they hit 30. Games where the developers said that they hated dealing with the "problematic videogamey content" when they wanted to tell a story.

Are you sure you're on a marketer payroll?

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>>383189683
Fair point, I guess, but the story's interesting as fuck. I guess that's the fundamental difference we got. I don't throw a tantrum over fifteen minutes of well written exposition.

>>383190265
Do you have an argument somewhere?

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Played it on PC so therefore there's no buyers remorse clouding my judgement.

Game is a 6/10 at best. It's fun for the first 10 hours when you don't know what to expect but then when you realize that the combat is trash, enemy variety is non existent, side quests are MMO tier fetch quest garbage and that 90% of the shrines all suck dick, you quickly grow bored.

You can list pad me a bunch of "COOL THINGS" all you want (DUDE, YOU CAN SET FIRE TO GRASS, LMAO) but I can do the exact same shit with a bunch of other 6/10 Open world games

"DUDE, NAME AN OPEN WORLD GAME WHERE I CAN STAND ON TOP OF MY PLANE WHILE IT FLIES THROUGH THE AIR ON CRUISE CONTROL, JUMP OFF AND PARAGLIDE HALF WAY ACROSS THE MAP WHILE RAINING DOWN ROCKETS. HAH, JUST CAUSE 3 CONFIRMED GOAT"

"DUDE, TELL ME A GAME WHERE I CAN LITERALLY MAKE ANYTHING I WANT TO. HAH, MINECRAFT CONFIRMED GOAT"

No, those are all open world games, devoid of anything even remotely interesting (Side quests, level design, boss battles, interesting writing/characters) and instead, mindless sandboxes that are fun if you "Turn off your brain".

Breath of the Wild is no different. Gothic 2, New Vegas and Morrowind are still the only open world games worth playing.

>>383190447
First it's on you to tell me how that isn't an argument.

>>383149998
I like how there are supposedly tons of games, yet you didn't mention a single one in the OP, since you knew you'd get destroyed.

>>383190021
There is literally a mechanic that rewards you for dodging at the right time. In fact it's so generous that you don't even need to be close to getting hit in the case of a some bosses. I think what you're asking for are i-frames with your dodge. I don't know why you'd ask for that when there are already plenty of ways to make the game easier.

That is, in fact, a counter attack. Just because you don't get babby mode Arkham combat with a dedicated """"counter"""" button to stop attacks from ten feet away does not mean the ability to counter does not exist. Parries are a thing that games have.

>>383153652
This nigger faggot

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>mfw Terraria is a better open world zelda-like than BOTW

Or perhaps youd like to explain which one has free DLC and runs at 60 FPS?

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>>383190474

PCbro here as well who emulated the game.

You're 100% correct. The game is literally only fun for the first 10~ hours and then it becomes a complete chore. Thank god for emulation, I almost bought a Switch for this trash

>>383190474
>Played it on PC

I stopped reading there.

So you played a broken, gimped copy of the inferior Wii U version.

Opinion disgarded.

>>383190532
I already did

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>>383190474

SHUT THE FUCK UP, 97 METACRITIC YOU FILTHY FUCKING SONYGGER

>>383150497
This is hilariously accurate.

>>383190718
60frames doesn't make a game objectively better

>>383190785
>Thank god for emulation

It runs like absolute shit on cemu. I know because I tried it. Fucking idiot.

>>383190474
>>383190785
well I emulated it and I loved the game, best open world game I've played in a long, long time.

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>>383161154
>there are no alternative options
There are more solutions besides this one, too.

>>383190474
I love the
>MUH SHRINES
Argument like they're all the same thing when 70+ offer unique puzzles or challenges. I get that the content specifically labeled as sidequest is lackluster, but you have 120 shrines of optional content that's pretty substantial.

>>383190915
I beg to differ. 30 FPS is for games that want to be "cinematic art". 60 FPS is for games that want to be fun entertainment.

>>383154260
if you think everyone here is actually racist because they call others nigger then you're so new it hurts

nobody calls others nigger base don race, it's just a generic insult you faggot cuck

>>383191001
Quantity =/= Quality

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>>383190794

>DUDE, YOU DIDN'T SPEND $350 ON YOUR VERSION SO THEREFORE IT DOESN'T COUNT

Your version runs at sub 1080p 25~ fps.

PC version is objectively better, stay mad Nintenshill

>>383191001

Out of the 70+ shrines I completed, the only remotely interesting one was the star one.

The rest were 5 minute long jokes that were clearly designed towards children

>>383149998
BotW is a game with excellent traversal and interactivity.
And that's it.
The combat is shit, the world is full of shitty Korok seeds and godawful shrines, the divine beasts are completely lackluster, everything in the game lacks considerable variety aside from interaction available to you in an open world, and it's fairly repetitive.
BotW could the gotyay, but it's not and it wont.

8/10 at best.
t. got bored after 15hr.

>>383190915
>this anon meanwhile stayed completely silent when people called Bloodborne a movie since it ran at 30 FPS as well

I guess it's okay only when certain companies do it?

>>383190924

>Runs like absolute shit

Nope, 30fps constant (except for towns where it dips to 27~ fps) for me.

Get a better rig and spend less money on no games boxes like the shitty Switch, Nintendork

>>383190949
yeah, well, you don't count!

>>383191295
Look at this fucking nonsense:
>The stuttering is because you're building the shader cache yourself. Once you've walked around an area for a bit and collected all the available shaders it'll be smooth, until you get to a new area with new shaders. It's not worth it though, just get the top reddit one (8166 shaders) when google cemu caches.

Holy shit this is pathetically laughable. This is just a fraction of the stupid shit cemu owners have to endure just to get the fucking game running. This is what you think is a good gaming experience? Jesus fucking Christ.

How are those gimped controls, immersion breaking glitches and constant crashes working for ya?

There's no fucking substitute for playing on Switch. But stay deluded.

>>383191749
>There's no fucking substitute for playing on Switch
WiiU

>>383191749
>trying to justify my $300 game
>>383191860

>>383191749
I guess emulation is fine if people can't affford a switch. Nothing wrong with that. But you're right, nobody but the most desperate kiddies would ever try and pretend cemu is a good way to play BotW.

>>383191749
Or I could just watch it on youtube. I don't miss much from not playing a cinematic experience.

>>383191002
>30 FPS is for games that want to be "cinematic art"

Not all the time you fucking moron

>>383191749

>Building a shader cahce yourself

Download a premade one

Screencap your speccy with thread in background.

I guarantee you're some butthurt Nintendo fanboy who hasn't even tried Cemu

>How are those gimped controls,

Using the Wii U Pro Pad.

> immersion breaking glitches

Haven't had a single one on 1.8.1

>and constant crashes working for ya?

Nope

Try running it on an actual PC and not a potato, Nintendork