Why did Nintendo ruin the Paper Mario series?

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>>383147896
No partners, Toads only, Final Destination.

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>>383147896
>it's been 13 fucking years since this game
i liked super paper mario but it wasn't the same

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>>383147896
I thought Bowser was just a generic meme villain

until I played the mario RPG's.

and now I feel conflicted because I'm already faithful to one husbando

>>383147896
Color Splash was fine

>>383148687
No, it wasn't.

>>383148636
paper bowser isn´t husbando material
mario and luigi bowser is

(A)
So long, gay bowser
(A)
Wa-hoo!

>>383148740
Yes it was, you are wrong

>>383147896
Sticker Star is the best selling PM in Japan and second worldwide.

>>383148775
In terms of bowser:
M&L > LotSS > PM

In terms of the entire game:
PM = LotSS >>> M&L

>>383148908
Explain how it was fine then
>>383148947
Source?

Because Miyamoto can't grasp the concept of having two Mario RPG series, so M&L became the RPG series, while Paper Mario became...whatever.

>>383149002
http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=paper+mario

>inb4 >vgchartz

>>383148908
No it wasn't. If you're going to go to bat for the game, then go to fucking bat.

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>>383149002
>Source
lazy anon
google it

>>383149116
name literally one country on this planet with worse taste than japan.

>>383149291
America

>>383148740
it was a solid 7/10 and it's only flaw was the battle system was cumbersome

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>>383148740
CS is gorgeous.

>>383149375
writing isn't anywhere near as entertaining as the first two and the battle system being bad is a huge flaw, not something you can easily overlook
>>383149426
>m-muh grafix

>>383149291
Europe

>>383149116
thing is the 3ds sold more than the gamecube, even back in 2012
sticker star did worse than ttyd relative to its install base
>>383149375
Tell us what you liked about it then, just throwing a number out doesn't change anyone's mind

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>>383149471
>the battle system being bad

>>383149573
Where's your argument?

>>383149291
India

>>383149471
>writing isn't anywhere near as entertaining as the first two
this is why you can´t argue with TTYD fags
>battle system being bad
>implying

>>383149541
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind though, you can understand a viewpoint without agreeing with it. You can dislike it if you want.

>>383149426
Also this, it looks incredible

>>383149471
I'd say the writing was actually pretty entertaining, and the paint bucket was a good companion. it also wasnt nearly as carbon copy toads as Sticker Star was

>>383149785
>the paint bucket was a good companion.
doesn't hold a candle to any of the partners from the first two
>wasnt nearly as carbon copy toads as Sticker Star was
"its only a little bit less shit"

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>>383149632
Argument for what? Battle system is the same in 64, TTYD and CS.

>>383149745
>this is why you can´t argue with TTYD fags
Yeah, you have yet to present an actual argument
>>battle system being bad
>>implying
not an argument.
>>383149879
Its this fag again.
Every fucking thread.

>>383149745
>defending sticker star style battle system
>player is punished for entering battle
>attacks are limited use, even the basic fucking jump attack, meaning if you have no cards you're fucked
>no level up system
>>383149879
okay now i know you're baiting

>>383150037
He does this every time someone shit talks CS. He just starts spamming screenshots to make it look like people are discussing the game instead of trashing it.
Literally the same strategy that XV-kun uses.

>>383149865
Okay, you have no arguments other than "but the first two!" and then you're accusing everyone else of saying nothing.

None of your points actually address the game, just compare it to other ones. Unless you think CS cant be good unless it's as good as the first ones

The other guy is right, this IS why you cant argue with TTYDfags

>>383150029
I'm pretty sure Miyamoto doesn't directly work on the Mario rpgs.

>>383150143
We've already discussed to death why CS sucks. Attacks are consumable items, it doesn't have partners, the battle system is stripped down and simplified, doesn't have badges, only has Toad NPCs.
I also find it funny that some people have some weird hateboner for TTYD. Are you just jealous that the actually good game was well received and still liked, while your shit game was forgotten immediately upon release and hated?

>>383150037
CS doesnt have Sticker Star's battle system, you dont get punished for attacking, because you increase your paint meter by fighting

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>>383150141
>being this mad in each CS thread

Where does SPM fall in all this? I'm a TTYDfag but I greatly enjoyed SPM.
I played a bit of sticker star but quit at the desert, it feels like a chore to play
>>383150360
It's still not much better, and you should not need to have a fucking card just to do a basic jump

>>383150426
>being this mad your shit game was forgotten
already

>>383147896
Because Paper Mario ruined the Mario RPG series

>>383150338
Stop projecting, I have no hateboner for TTYD the same way I dont hate Melee. But that doesnt stop the fans from being insufferable.

Also, CS isnt hated anywhere but here, most people just think it was alright. Pretty much any youtube review will tell you that. I dont actually care if you like it or not, and said so at least 20 replies ago. You are getting legit mad at people liking CS

>>383150637
>CS isnt hated anywhere but here,
I love this meme

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Tanabe took full reign of Sticker Star and Color Splash and added only Toads as supporting cast members, when Miyamoto only suggested they use characters only from Super Mario World, which has more than enough variety for a cast of OC's.

Not that I was gonna pick it up, but this only confirmed this new system is trash.

>>383150489
SPM gets love because everyone loves the story I think

>>383150679
>>383149632

>>383150617
>implying square enix would stay with nintendo for an entire series
>when they still have geno by the balls
>>383150721
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/papermario/0/2

>>383150637
>that doesnt stop the fans from being insufferable.
unlike CS fans right? The people who can't even come up with reasons to defend their shit game?
I'm 100% convinced people only pretend CS was good to bait TTYD fans

how do you summon Cody

>>383150789
Where's yours? Prove that its liked on other sites. You made the claim, burden is on you.

>>383147896
Bowser is straight

>>383150693
>can't flee
literally every other mario rpg lets you flee battle, why the fuck did they remove the ability to

>>383150903
Say federation force three times backwards

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I liked Sticker Star as its own game
That being said it's like comparing a bar of chocolate to a full course meal when you put it next to PM64 or TTYD

>>383151040
It's only when kamek curses your crap that you can't flee

>>383151278
Still, that's just bad game design, forcing a player to attempt to fight without having any ability that actually works while they lose almost all their HP

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>By the way, press up to talk to me
>Did you know? You can press up to talk to me
>Pressing up will talk to me, that's pretty neat
>Feel free to press up to talk to me whenever!
>I'm getting pretty lonely, so press up to talk to me!
>All the cool kids are pressing up to talk to me
WHY
WHY DOES NINTENDO DO THIS SHIT

>>383150489
CS also takes steps backwards from SS in some ways. SS lets you arrange the cards in a grid, CS only gives a single straight line that you have to scroll through constantly. And you have to paint and flick cards every single turn. Everyone who praises the game just glosses over that and I have no idea why.

>>383150843
the reasons they are insufferable is because they like a game and you dont get why? Hell, several reasons were brought up but you ignored it because it doesnt fit the agenda you have. TTYD is too good to get fans like these

>>383150952
I did. I said to check out youtube reviews. Arlo's is a good one to start with. But you dont want to do that. Also, dont defend your complete lack of a response

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>>383148636
>>383148978
>>383148775
>bowser husbando material
>doesnt bring up Super Mario RPG
He was even so likable that Miyamoto regretted it because he was the most likeable character in the game.

>>383151602
No they dont, the card flicking is probably the biggest problem and everyone says this, even defenders

>>383151734
>everyone says this, even defenders
not a single person defending it ITT has mentioned it at all

>>383150978
Yeah, a straight up cock sucker

>>383151640
They're insufferable because they just spout blatant lies. Like the faggot who says that CS has the same battle system as 64 and TTYD.

>>383151772
you have several autism problems

>>383151912
nice deflection.

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>>383151569
BECAUSE THOSE GAMES ARE LITERALLY MADE FOR 6 YEAR OLDS
DO YOU WATCH DORA THE EXPLORER AS WELL AND GET AGGRAVATED WHEN THAT LITTLE SLUT DOESN'T FIND HER OWN FUCKING SHOES THAT SHE IS WEARING AT THE VERY MOMENT?
ARE YOU THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT GETS ANGRY AT THOSE FARM ANIMAL SOUND TOYS BECAUSE IT SHOWS A PICTURE OF A COW *AND* GOES MOO WHEN YOU PRESS IT? I KNOW RIGHT, FUCKING FARM ANIMAL REDUNDANCY RIGHT HERE

>>383152128
>BECAUSE THOSE GAMES ARE LITERALLY MADE FOR 6 YEAR OLDS
Games that were made for 6 year olds when I was growing up didn't have near as much handholding, are you saying that kids today are substantially dumber than I was when I was their age?
That's frankly insulting to today's children, you aren't giving them enough credit.

>>383152128
The other Paper Mario games didn't do that shit
What makes this one different?

>>383151986
>deflection
it isnt, I wasn´t >>383151734

>>383152549
Its still a deflection, you can't come up with a counterargument, but instead of just not responding you have to post some lazy insult. It just shows I'm right, if anything.

>>383151725
what do you think "LotSS" stands for, anon?

>>383152507
He's six years old, hence his use of ALL CAPS.

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>Where was this in PMCS

Actual question:

What on earth will the next Paper Mario game be? Did they notice that people were unhappy with Color Splash? Will it ever be more like the first 2 Paper Mario games? Will it be something completely different that will still hopefully be good? Cause it could be anything at this point.

I also now realize that it's because of Color Splash that we will never get a port of the first to games

>>383152651
A counterargument about what?
Honey relax, I was just pointing a fact

>>383152854
facts generally need to be proven.

>>383152791
If this was actually in the game I would have considered getting it
>>383152853
They'll either rehash Sticker Star or Color Splash again or just abandon the series entirely
Personally I hope for the latter

>>383152763
My bad.
I've never seen that acronym used before so it confused me

>>383152953
It just needs to die because no one at Nintendo understands what made the series enjoyable in the first place.

>>383153108
this
>tfw i wished for the series to die after sticker star
>tfw they then released color splash
>tfw in the direct they called it an action-adventure game, not an RPG

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>"Secret" ending

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>>383153813

Screw the haters, this game had a lot of charm.

>>383156282
>muh haters
are you 12 years old?

Honestly, Paper Mario's RPG mechanics were never ever better than "adequate" and they were never what actually endeared people to the games themselves
They'd be better off dropping all pretenses of a turn-based battle system and just making the games full puzzle platformers that happen to have fun writing and characters.
Fuck you, Super Paper Mario was fine.

>>383148947
And Color Splash is the worst selling Paper Mario worldwide.

It's almost like we were so disappointed by Sticker Star that we didn't buy Sticker Star 2.

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haha

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>>383157661
>we

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>>383159483
>he bought Color Trash

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>>383159565
I didnt
Whats now faglord?

>>383148687
Sure it was fine, but Nintendo isn't known for "fine." Fine for Nintendo may as well be bad.

>>383150029
Oh shit I wrote that green text. I didn't make the picture I posted it with though, not nearly that creative.

>>383148947
This means a lot less when you consider Japs are practically exclusively handheld gamers. If Color Splash were on the 3DS I'd be very curious about how it would compare sales-wise.

>>383149426
Yeah, it was. That just makes it worse because a proper PM64, TTYD sequel could have looked like that.

>>383150817
The actual story in Paper Mario isn't what's important, it's how the story forms the locations in which the game takes place. Like, I love TTYD but I honestly couldn't tell you a single word of its story. But that story took me beyond the typical grasslands and deserts to ethereal forests, fighting tournaments floating in the sky, and solving mysteries on a ritzy train. When all you have for a story is "BOWSER DID A BAD" you tend to fall back on tired locales that are just as boring as they are in the platforming games.

>>383162515
Plot twist: The bad did Bowser

>>383152325
Actually yes, notice how people are calling Dark Souls the Crash games, which were beaten just fine by 6 years old back then.

>>383162515
what about in the first paper mario then, where you fight the teenage mutant ninja koopas and go inside a toy box

>>383163310
>notice how people are calling Dark Souls the Crash games,
But the people saying that are adults my own age, not kids

>>383150693
what about the roulette? he had over 8000 coins

>>383163501
I wouldn't be so sure of that

>>383163501
Even if that was true, it would only support the argument that new generations are indeed getting dumber, as in no adults that played the game complained about it back them

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I'm going to marry bowser!

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We were so close

>>383164767
why did they remove partners for some crown sticker nobody cares about anyways?

>>383164950
Even Huey is more memorable.

>>383149426
I really hate faggots for ruining the rainbow.

Because the "Mario and Luigi" series took the Mario RPG label.

So, they're throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. But they don't seem to realize that what the people want is another Paper Mario RPG.

Even if they have been told during an interview that customers would buy a Thousand-Year Door or Paper Mario remaster with Color Splash's aesthetic.

Why does neo-/v/ get triggered by anything that offends Republicans?

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>>383149879
>Battle system is the same in 64, TTYD

>>383165595
>Even if they have been told during an interview that customers would buy a Thousand-Year Door or Paper Mario remaster with Color Splash's aesthetic.
I wish they would just do that, they remaster every Zelda game under the sun, why can't Paper Mario get one?

Is there a romhack of Sticker Star that makes anything better? Highly doubting it but just about to finish Dream Team and going to play Sticker Star before Paper Jam. I know full well that Sticker Star has "interesting" mechanics, just curious if there's any hacks for it that improve it slightly. Probably not.

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>Paper Mario must be something completely different every time now

>Mario and Luigi's core gameplay is left untouched after 5 games in the series

>>383165794
it already got one, it's called color splash
>>383165847
i was wondering myself if there were any ttyd romhacks the other day, i love ttyd and want more of it
did you like dream team? i finished it myself a couple days back

>>383156282
>>383153813
Nintendo and NoA has always been great at odd fun dialog. I kind of want to try out CS but I really wanted to know why they felt Paper Mario series was their experimental series while Mario and Luigi was their mainline RPG series.
>The only thing Paper Mario brought to the Mario + Paper Mario crossover was Toads
The fuck is wrong with them.

>>383165964
>it already got one, it's called color splash
that's not a remaster

>>383165645
shit I forgot about this template, too bad I never did anything with it

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>>383165964
I do like Dream Team, although some of the Dream segments wear a bit thin and are boring, but it's more fun now that I have most of the dream powers. The Bros powers are also really annoyingly difficult, but maybe I just need to git gud. Music is top notch though, and it's super pretty. And, as always, Luigi and Mario's relationship is incredibly adorable.

>>383165882
They've commented on this before. They said it was kind of silly to have two RPG series with basically the exact same battle system running concurrent with each other. You may disagree, I know I do, but it's a fair and valid point. They decided to keep the Mario and Luigi series have the same overall Mario RPG core gameplay and let Paper Mario, which is a gimmick idea in it's own right, be the more experimental series.

>>383166932
For me the bros moves were either
>I'm good at them so I should always use them
or
>I'm bad at them so I should never use them
It was pretty much more Bowser's Inside Story but with the Bowser segments replaced with the Dream World, which I'm more than okay with since I fucking loved BiS.
also rescue all the pi'illos, trust me

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>>383167636
Oh, also, the difficulty in Dream Team is basically perfect. I'm just about done completing the Ultibed and battles still feel great. Nintendo really does a fantastic job with the difficulty in M&L series. Also my Luigi is sitting at like 70 Stache with Big Lucky, it's hilarious when he crits.

>also rescue all the pi'illos, trust me

Sweet, good to know it's worth it. Was starting to wonder if I should bother since it seemed to be more of a "awww look how nice you are" kind of thing.

>>383168898
What is this from? I see this reaction image everywhere and I never found out

>>383148775
>bowserfags don't care about the best version of the character
thank christ

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>have to scroll through like 100 cards to find the attack you want
>confirm
>have to fill them up by holding A
>confirm
>then you have to "flick" them for God knows why
>all just to jump on a fucking Goomba

>people defend this

>>383148775
Paper Mario's Bowser used to be Husbando material. Reached critical in Super Paper Mario.

And then Sticker Star ruined everything and all originality and characterization and personality of the character(s).

>>383169236
Only the mentally unhinged defend it

If Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga is, let's say a 5 (it's totally a great game but for this question lets say it's a 5), what would you rate Dream Team and what would you rate Paper Jam and what would you rate Sticker Star?

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>>383159483
> Not liking bad games makes me reddit
Alright man, have fun with your virtual coloring book

>>383169152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwHERSxW_Bg

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>>383170616
fuck off beaner

>>383169968
DT is a 3
PJ is a 4 in terms of battle mechanics but a 3 in terms of everything else
Sticker Star is a 1

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>>383149879
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>>383156282
so this... is the power of autism...
woah...

>>383170960
I know Miyamoto is basically a vidya demi-god, but I feel like he's fallen from grace and keeps Mario RPG's potential on lock-down. I wonder when he finally perishes if they will be allowed to become more unique and less plastic modern Mario style.

>>383151397
If Dark Souls had done this it would be fine.

>>383152325
I believe that has to do with the same reason that Nintendo changed the Famicom's name to SNES in the West.
Video Game consoles are a way for a parent to make their children distracted while they're not around, so they can play alone without someone overseeing them and neither with friends.
So that much hand-holding may be necessary when a child has never had any contact with video games.

>>383173239
But that still doesn't make any sense, what about the six year olds who played original PM and TTYD just fine?
Why do they now need so much more handholding? Its not like either of those games are particularly difficult

>>383147896
He's right you now

>>383173526
Today you set your standards by the lowest denominator.

>>383174327
Anon are you seriously trying to tell me that today's kids would have trouble playing fucking Paper Mario of all things?

>>383174401
You're having trouble reading what I wrote right now.

>>383174549
Is the lowest common denominator lower than when I was a kid?

>>383174661
Maybe they didn't base it on that back then.
Just how before people didn't care for colorblindness in games, now almost every game has basic support for that.

I'm colorblind

>>383149865
>doesn't hold a candle to any of the partners from the first two

BS, Huey has more personality than all of them combined.

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>>383174848
Didn't you notice that gaming is more mainstream now? It has been a while that games have been casualized, wouldn't that have something to do with the fast development that the industry had in the 21st century? People were always dumb, they didn't become dumber.
I'm an aspiring historian and and anthropology-hobbyist. The way people think today and how they did back in the Roman Empire didn't change at all . Just google Pompey's Grafitti.

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>>383151725
>He was even so likable that Miyamoto regretted it because he was the most likeable character in the game.
Source?

>>383162515

Except Color Splash has more unique locations than any other Paper Mario game.

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>>383175317

>>383174401

That doesn't really make any sense since Sticker Star is tougher to beat than the other entries.

>>383175862

Describe Bombette's personality.

>>383176043
>since Sticker Star is tougher to beat than the other entries.
how?

>>383176134
explosive

>>383176196

It's puzzles are harder to solve, the levels are less linear and certain hidden paths are required to progress. It certainly isn't easier than the other 4 games.

>>383175317
Eh. Maybe he's as good as one of them, just one, but he is just one guy stretched over the whole adventure and he's way more forced into being a "guide" than any goomba partner was, despite not even being as useful as either if you really want him to be. He's more like Starlow in Paper Jam than a Paper Mario partner.

>>383175540
Play the game, he's good.
Literally the only character which doesn't counts as a boring donut steel and actually has dialogues unlike mario.
In general that game has excellent villians and bland party members, who knows why.

Can we just admit that Super Paper Mario was absolute garbage? Because, seriously, it is the reason why Paper mario is cucked today.

>>383176926
Talking about the Miyamoto quote

>>383176926
I meant the Miyamoto quote, my good man.

>Cody is still clinging to Color Splash and Star Fox Zero because the Switch and BotW are being praised unlike the garbage Wii U

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I've played all the mainline mario games, Mario RPG, Paper Mario, TTYD, Super Paper Mario, Super Star Saga, Partners in Time, and Bowsers Inside story.

What game should I play next if I'm in it entirely for bowser?

>>383177273
>It can't be a failure if it wasn't meant to be a success
I wonder if he applies that logic on himself?

>>383177313
>>>/trash/

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I like the koopalings.

>>383177273
Does Cody hate the Switch? I thought he was a Nintendo fanboy in general, not just a Wii U fanboy.

>>383177371
I already rode my dildo while thinking of him today, I don't need to do it again, I wanna play videogames.

>>383152763
LOTs of Straight Shota?

>>383176831

That's ridiculous. The Goombas have no personality.

>>383177313
Mario Odyssey

>>383152791
>slutty shy girls (male) presenting their sexualized asses
>in a mario game

What the fuck

>>383177676
Goombario is better than Starlow, Kirsty, and Huey put together. He's an actual character while their personality is nonexistent.

>>383177880
goombario literally has less personality than starlow and huey
did you mean goombella

>>383178007
Who was worse.
Goombario or Bombette?

>>383177779
>>383152791
>vivan in the corner showing her whole ass to Luigi

>>383178007
No, Goombario is better than Goombella.

>>383178176
>her

>>383178183
he LITERALLY has less uses and less dialogue

>>383178154
Goombario is fun, so Bombette.

>>383178290
how can you think that when you say that Goombella is worse than Goombario?

>>383147896
Paper Mario has the same issue as Sonic. Instead of giving us a straight-up game with the proper gameplay, like people want, they choose to experiment with gimmicks that nobody asked for. It's tragic. Someone needs to make gaming great again.

>>383178154
Bombette.
>>383178183
No he isn't.

>>383177880

Goombario personality is that he's Mario fanboy. He's literally one note and the partners are pretty much all Mario's lickspittles 24/7 beyond Huey.

>>383149291
Every other country on the planet.

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>>383177313
That one Bowser dating VN

>>383178275
That's wrong, he has loads of dialogue if you choose to use him.

>>383178585
Goombella literally has more dialogue. Just admit you're a literal faggot.

>>383178585
He's saying that he has less dialogue than Goombella.

>>383178585
He has less than Goombella, you silly illiterate.

>>383178802
test

>>383177524
He likes the Switch but he holds on to the belief that in due time Color Splash, Sticker Star, Star Fox Zero, and Federation Force will have more positive reception.
He compared them to Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, and Wind Waker

>>383178923
I don't see SFZ getting praise in my lifetime

>>383178923
>in due time Color Splash, Sticker Star, Star Fox Zero, and Federation Force will have more positive reception
>people are already praising the SNES Mini for having a good "new" Star Fox game
kek

>>383178923
To be fair, those 3 games were very harshly shat on back in the day, especially Wind Waker. I remember in the old IGN forums people went maximum autistic, and if anyone dared mention it kinda looked like Zelda 1 (this was before the sleeves were recolored to a different shade of green), they'd throw a bigger sperg shitfit.

>>383179223
Did people bitch about anything that wasn't the art style?

>>383179223
>those 3 games were very harshly shat on back in the day
Wind Waker and Sunshine received critical acclaim, you moron.

>>383147896
>HURR DURR WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH MARIO & LUIGI AND PAPER MARIO AT THE SAME TIME

>>383179479
I'm talking explicitly the fanbase, and even then some critics mentioned FLUDD or WW's artstyle as a negative, even if the score was good, you under-age dipshit.

>>383179434
Nope, it was always the artstyle. It was the OW THE EDGE days of gaming, they wanted a more mature Link, and enemies bleeding more realistically than in Ocarina, I remember a sperg saying that every time you slashed the Master Sword should be more and more stained of blood as the game progresses.

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>>383179223
>those 3 games were very harshly shat on back in the day
If by "harshly shat on" you mean "this vocal minority criticized some things."
>>383179714
>It was the OW THE EDGE days of gaming, they wanted a more mature Link
That's because of what was shown at SpaceWorld 2000.

>>383179714
>they wanted a more mature Link
it's almost like Nintendo teased this, people went insane, and then cel-shaded cat came out of nowhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEF9Utdu-L0

>>383179714
I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't have internet in the day, missed all that shit.
That said, I fear what it would have done to my innocent mind.

>>383179714
>calling someone underage after making a stupid generalization about the reception of commercial successes and then backpedaling hard

>>383149291
Africa

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>>383177523
They are pretty great.

>>383179873
>"this vocal minority criticized some things."
Remember, Aonuma himself did admit Wind Waker almost killed the series. It struggled to reach "Player's choice" status, and NoA had to beg NoJ to make TP "realistic" and not a celshaded sequel to Wind Waker.

>>383179873
>>383179976
>That's because of what was shown at SpaceWorld 2000.
And that was a tech demo. And it seems people forget that the purpose of that was to show what the GameCube was capable of. And let's be honest, that demo looks dated as shit.

>>383180018
It was actually a pretty good time, the communities were much more civil. It's just the Zelda fandom in specific went to shit, similarily to how Metroid threads here went to hell after Other M.

bitter young adults have always been shitting on new entries in long running franchises

>>383178923
>Super Mario Sunshine
Why does /v/ hate this game again?
>inb4 Blue Coins
Only about 15% of them are hidden away in places you would not expect tho the rest are hiding behind the M's that are all over the map

>>383180341
>the communities were much more civil
If you conveniently ignored the console war shitposting.
>but it wasn't as bad
That's what people always say about negative things surrounding their childhood.

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>>383180642
Back when the game was released, everybody bitched really hard about FLUDD being an useless gimmick nobody asked for, instead of an actual gameplay element.

>>383180642
>only /v/ dislikes Sunshine
rven at the time people were criticizing how shallow FLUDD's implementation was or how unpolished the overall game felt

>>383180560
(You)

>>383180560
Children don't like Color Splash either, don't kid yourself

>>383180341
>the communities were much more civil
If you were part of some circlejerk single-game forum sure

>>383180671
>If you conveniently ignored the console war shitposting.
Of course I did. Console wars weren't a thing in my country, because openly insulting the competition is illegal here. So I didnt got any "GENESIS DOES" or "HEY YO PLUMBER BOI" ads

>That's what people always say about negative things surrounding their childhood.
What can I say, it was, at least back then, harder to find people argue for long. Mods were very anal about rules in forums back in those days before Social Media, they were very quick to warn-ban or outright ban. Most forums had the "No insulting other users, no politics, no religion" thing. Just to stay on-theme/topic with the forum.

>>383180992
>If you were part of some circlejerk single-game forum sure
>Going to a Mega Man forum in 1997 to talk about Mega Man is circle jerking and not because it was one of the few options.
Cute.

>>383180341
>>383180671
>more civil
Pfffhahahaha
There were commercials everywhere full of buzzwords and cheap shots at competitors. You had VHS tapes where they'd act out skits shitting on each other and kids everywhere repeated the slogans of commercials when arguing over which toy was better.
Fucking GameFaqs was around.

>>383165202
Huey is better if you imagine John DiMaggio voicing him (think Bender from Futurama)

>>383181339
As I mentioned, I'm not american so I did not see those ads. I only saw the consoles on magazines and very small scanned photos online. I was actually confused when I found out about them back then.

>GameFAQs
Didn't discover them until 2002, when PS2/NGC/Xbox shitposting was full swing.

>>383181194
>implying you were restricted to that one forum when people were making general ones everywhere and showing off their angelfire links surrounded by dancing sprites and flames

>>383164950
IIRC the direction for SS was a lot like TTYD, until Miyamoto saw it and said it was too similar

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>>383147896
Miyamoto did, that dick hates every character that he didnt create.

>>383181957
What? There were many forums, but many were uni-themed. I was at 4 Mega Man forums, 2 Zelda forums, 3 KoF forums and a Cammy fanboying forum.

IGN was my first "videogames general" forum, and then I found out consolewars were a thing.

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>>383182194
>>383164950
>>383164767
I have the infograph

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>>383180341
>It was actually a pretty good time, the communities were much more civil
>BLAST PROCESSING
>64-BIT
>DO THE MATH
>WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, NINTENDO TO MAKE ONE?
>ONLY THE BEST PLAY HERE
>NINTENDON'T
>GRAFIX pushed hard

>>383182385
Thanks. I'll just tuck this away for another time

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>>383183074
What part of
>I am not american, we didn't had those ads in my country
Do you NOT understand? Most forums I went to were in my language to begin with, IGN just happened to be the first english forum I went to.

>>383183963
>I am not american
Then say
>it was actually a pretty good time down here in South America where we played nothing but 40000-in-1 NES bootlegs

>>383184189
>>it was actually a pretty good time down here in South America where we played nothing but 40000-in-1 NES bootlegs
>Only Latinamerica and the US exist, the rest of the world is an illusion
Am I being meme'd?

>>383148947
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...

>>383181074
>>383181579
>>383183963
Console wars weren't exclusive to America. Don't be silly.

>>383148636

Bowser pretty much is a meme villain in the RPGs. He's one big joke.

>>383184410
But they weren't in the entire world either. It depends from country to country laws, in some countries the "Mac vs PC" ads weren't officially aired, and were merely spread via YouTube because otherwise it'd go against foul competition laws.

>>383184343
Are you on some bumfuckmiddleofnowhereisland in Yurop or in africa

>>383183963
I didn't see a single thing related to where you're from in that post.

>>383184784
he answered someone else that said the same shit you did.

I only saw these "sega do what nintendon't" in the 2010s.

>>383184609
No, but I know if I say where I'll just bring /pol/ in, I rather avoid the thread to further degenerarte

>>383185093
This guy gets it. I can just say this, I preffered those days, probably out of nostalgia, but because I didnt argue with the Sega kids or Nintendo kids, but instead played on each other's houses our different consoles, or went together to the arcades to play some Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter.

>poo in loo makes severe generalization of the 90s

People were more civil in the 90s and early 2000s before the internet got flooded with normalfags and illiterate uneducated trash. Even disagreements seemed to have way more actual discussion, now it's like shitposting as hard as possible at eachother and namecalling.

But that's just like, my opinion man.

>>383186329
>People were more civil in the 90s and early 2000s before the internet got flooded with normalfags and illiterate uneducated trash.
>TFW in 2002 I was bullied by jocks in my middle school for having an email "What a fucking nerd, beat him!"

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>>383148489
paper mario TTYD is legit my alltime fav console game

but i fucking hate the wii, its tiring controls and this entire huge bullshit 'aiming at the screen' concept
i just fucking hate it

when i bought super paper mario i was expecting another ttyd masterpiece
my dreams got crushed within the first minutes
quitted out after a few hours of playtime eventually and havent touched it since

it still hurts

>>383148636
He's a fucking turtle.